How To Monitor Audio in FiLMiC PRO (w/external mic + headphones)

In this video we take a look at how to monitor audio in Filmic Pro while using an external mic & headphones. It's not as easy as you might think! :)
UPDATE: See pinned comment on working with the RODE & Deity mics and the wireless headphones. Did some more testing and eventually got it to work.
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[@iphoneographers]

UPDATE: Thanks to a few of your comments and some more testing I WAS able to get the RODE VideoMicro to work with the wireless headphones. Cool! What I did this time was connect the Rode mic FIRST, then open Filmic Pro - and THEN turn on the Bluetooth headphones. In this particular order. The other mics with the built-in Lightning connector you can just connect and go - and leave the Bluetooth headphones on all the time. But with the Lightning to 3.5mm adapter it seems you have to go in this order. So it's a bit of a finicky setup, but so far it does work (with the Deity mic as well). Will be testing more devices as well as some wireless mics too. Thanks! -BC

[@zeezag6798]

Hi, Thank you for all the amazing efforts, I have a question, Can I be monitoring a zoom call using the same setup? Thanks

[@johnplacencia]

This order works greatly! Thank you for the Update. I have a question, it may be silly, but the latency is that only affecting what you hear or will there be latency in the actual recording of the sound as well? Thank you for your help! :)

[@johnplacencia]

This order works greatly! Thank you for the Update. I have a question, it may be silly, but the latency is that only affecting what you hear or will there be latency in the actual recording of the sound as well? Thank you for your help! :)

[@iphoneographers]

Latency only is what you hear while recording. The actual video & audio will be in sync. Thanks for watching!

[@johnplacencia]

iPhoneographers thank you for the info and response brother!! I’m happy to hear that and get to it!! :)

[@EmceeGraffiti]

Another awesome video. Very informative. Consistently one of my favorite channels.

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks! Glad to hear you found it helpful. Appreciate you watching too. 🙌🏻

[@natefish79]

Thank you for making this video. I tried the lightning to 3.5mm adapter with my wireless mic, the Saramonic Blink500, and it worked great. Definitely think it’s about connecting the mic first.

[@samuelpatchett684]

Great tips and follow up discussion. Thanks Blake!

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks!

[@iQamarAmerica]

Love it. Thank you for sharing .💐

[@BenjaminGib]

Whoa, I def need to try the splitter.

[@joshuanorris9785]

great video thank you!

[@JewellDWilliams]

GREAT Video. I don't know if anyone already commented about using the Air Pods and the 3.5mm Lightning adapter with Filmic Pro. I did try this setup and it works well right off the bat. I did not go through any extra steps. Also, the external microphone's I used were cheap mics I have used with my DSLR. Thanks for all your great tips.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah Airpods can work well. Thanks for sharing!

[@jansundoy]

Thank you, that was very helpful. I`m was just fickeling aroand this problems. The splitter is maby my answer :)

[@CEDRICCHALOPIN]

Thanks for this 👍

[@exceleganzalinedance178]

This is when you appreciate a 3.5mm audio input on your phone. There are many phones that still have them and are still waterproof. Let's hope the phone and phone gimbal makers, and also Filmic Pro, will work together when designing their products. They sometimes seem to live in a vacuum. We have to go through so much also to mount a mike, get the phone charged by the gimbal, configure the software, etc.

[@iphoneographers]

It can sometimes be messy that’s for sure!

[@DuvaleM]

Hello Blake! Regarding other mics that may work besides those you mentioned - I used a RODE Smartlav + on my 10XR and my Bluetooth headphones ( Bose 700) and I heard the audio just fine.

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks! Good to know. Some work and some don't. :)

[@jamesfaivre1197]

Thanks. same mic, tried recording drums, sounded horrible... now i know to set Audio *in Filmic. Oy.

[@mycoolday]

Thanks.

[@the_creative70]

Hey great video! Thanks for the info! I’m using my Rode VideoMic as a wireless mic using my iPhone 11 and filmic pro app. My problem is whenever I switch to Bluetooth to monitor audio via my ear pod or headphones, filmic pro switches to 16 kHz and I want it at 48 kHz but it won’t give me the option to change it. Can you suggestion what I can do? Thanks Also, for a typical dialogue scene in short films, and I know situations make a difference but I’m still in a fog about what to set my gain levels. My mic had a manual one on the back of it. As a general rule, should I set it below 7 or 8 for outdoor scenes? Thanks again.

[@Hbende]

I solved it, and the order is not essential! The phone thinks you plugged in a microphone AND a headphone. Just switch your sound output to the Bluetooth headphone, and it will work. On iOS, go to the control center, tap on the blue ”radio tower,” and select your headphones.

[@shaneeegan]

I have found a workaround to this issue I believe. I use MoRec app(IOS and Android) to record and monitor the audio whilst using my camera or other app. MoRec boosts the audio and I simply add it back in durning the edit. it may not be a simple fix, but a double clap to fix the audio start point will work every time in FCP and Reaper is my DAW so that's even better. I couldn't justify spending lots on dongles and cables for education purposes, but this way, most children will be matching audio at some point in I-Movie or FCP or Premiere. Hope this helps. Shane, Tipperary, Ireland

[@kilianonline]

Thanks for these tips! Say, what does the *FE[number]m* top left of the Filmic Pro interface stand for?

[@iphoneographers]

Filmic Extreme - it’s the bit rate you choose and this is the highest quality one. Thanks for watching!

[@kilianonline]

@@iphoneographers I thought so. Thanks

[@chrizzestickthrower3753]

@@iphoneographers hi, the small bars on the left and the right aren't shown on my phone (FE on the left + db-meter on the right). do you know, how to get this? thx a lot.

[@MitchRKicks]

I’m interested in the mv88 but the problem is after I do a shot I wanna see how it sounds before I move on to the next. What are the easiest options. having a set of earphone connected via Bluetooth? For playback?

[@nickrhysjones]

Hey , thanks for another great video. Would you be able to shed any light on if this works with wireless mic systems? I want to monitor when using the Saramonic blink 500 to lightning kit. Thanks!

[@iphoneographers]

Good question! Was planning to test a Rode Wireless GO, so will do that soon. Thanks!

[@nojwop]

I can confirm (albeit a year later from your question!) that this does work with Saramonic Blink500 B3 and my iPhone (12 Pro Max)

[@DaimyoD0]

*Troubleshooting for Filmic Pro Android Users:* If you are struggling with getting Filmic to recognize your bluetooth headphones, it could be trying to use your USB-C adapter/microphone as an output device! There is a setting you can play with to try to change this; it helped me fix audio monitoring with an older version of Filmic. 1. Go to Settings/About Phone/Build Number 2. Tap the Build Number Panel continuously. A prompt will state that you are about to enable Developer Options. You should only have to tap it something like 5-7 times, and your phone will cheerfully inform you that you are now a developer. Think of this as the Android Power-User Konami Code. 3. Back out to Settings, and then go to Settings/System/Advanced/Developer options. Congrats, you're now part of a secret club. With great power comes great responsibility. Don't worry-you probably can't brick your phone-but maybe do a quick Google search before changing anything else that you're unsure about in here. 4. Scroll down to the Media tab. You'll find a setting that says "Disable USB audio routing." If it's not in the same place on your phone, feel free to use the settings search function (magnifying glass icon inside of settings). 5. Switch this to on. Don't forget that you changed this next time you try to plug in a pair of wired headphones! 6. Go to Filmic Pro, with your Bluetooth headphones paired and your microphone plugged in, and try to switch your audio source to your external mic. If it that worked, awesome. If it didn't, try a bit more tweaking. Like in iPhoneographers' pinned comment, sometimes you need to change the order in which you connect the devices. Try every order combination of A. Connecting headphones, B. Connecting external mic, C. Starting Filmic, and D. Attempting to switch its audio source. If all else fails, you weren't missing that much anyway. The 1 second latency is incredibly annoying and is a direct effect of Filmic's processing delay; that means low latency headphones don't help much. I tried. Please upvote for visibility!

[@iphoneographers]

Wow, thanks for the detailed info!

[@simonpatrickgabriel]

Great video! I have a semi related audio question that you might be able to help with. I'm wanting to use my Zoom U22 interface to record into FiLMiC. I haven't bought the app yet because I want to make sure this is possible first. I'm wondering if stereo recording is possible with this app. I've read some places that it is and some places that it isn't. FiLMMiC's own documentation isn't clear and I'm not comfortable with paying the high price if audio is flattened to mono.

[@DaimyoD0]

I can't speak for whether or not Filmic can accept a stereo signal through a USB-to-Lightning adapter used to connect the interface to your device. I would presume that it is at least possible to get a stereo signal in using other iOS apps, or else Zoom wouldn't readily advertise the U-22's iOS integration. I can confirm that Filmic *can* record stereo audio. Using the two built-in microphones at the top and bottom of my Pixel 3, it records stereo audio complete with distinct meters for each mic, and a single slider to adjust the level of both channels. Based on how much better support for Filmic Pro is on iOS than it is on Android, I would bet that any feature available to my Pixel 3 is also available to iPhones. However, seeing as I'm using a USB-C port instead of Lightning, and my external microphone is a shotgun mic, I have no way of meaningfully testing external stereo input.

[@alurnima]

I will try/test it out if there is a delay between LowLatency (AptX) and wired Monitoring...can not stand a delay when I have to Film a subject at the same time. In general I think a full over Ear Headset would be more suitable. I will test out my thick MemoryFoam ANC Headset :) Luckily using S9+Root...full 3.5mm Jack usable! Rode does often not include 3 to 4 Pin Adapter for those using 3.5mm Jack.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah latency not the best for sure. But over ear headphones are great. :)

[@JoeMurphysGuitarlessons]

Good video, I have always found filmic to be a pain in the ass, so buggy it’s untrue. It seems after every update, there is another problem for me to fix. The latest one is when switching off automatic gain correction, I have no audio, any advice on how to get around this ? The only reason I use this app is because it has a remote facility.

[@iphoneographers]

Hmmm. Interesting! Are you on iPhone or Android? We report bugs to them anytime we come across them but haven’t had any as of late. Rock solid on an iPhone for a long time. Regarding automatic gain correction… Whenever using a microphone turn that off and set your audio manually. Otherwise leave it on, but if it’s turning off automatically would report that to Filmic Pro. [e-mail] Hope you get it figured out!

[@JMPDev]

Did you end up fixing it with a TRS->TRRS adapter? Most lightning->headphone adapters use TRRS pinning, and requires an extra adapter for mics that are TRS only.

[@Beckmen]

Is there a way to use all 3.5mm? I have seen lightning dongles that have both headphone and mic inputs, but I can't tell if they input the mic and output to headphones at the same time so you can monitor in real time. Trying to get a sound setup using my existing 3.5mm shotgun mic and headphones.

[@iphoneographers]

This adapter is probably your best bet today… kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5qQfJSZe8utiJo

[@thinkfreetelevision]

I'm having no problem monitoring audio with my bluetooth earbuds from my Deity mic with the apple lightning adapter and Rode red cable.

[@GabrielLewis1]

Can you please link to the Lightning adapter you used in this video?

[@iphoneographers]

Oh yeah! Will do. :)

[@JMPDev]

You should absolutely make an update video to this specifically to include the Rode AI-micro since it has the option to live hardware monitor through it. It also auto-detects TRS and TRRS plugs so should “just work”™ for any mic with a 3.5mm jack.

[@sefasozen7987]

thanks for the video, i have a different question but i hope u will answer it. i have 11 pro and filmicpro and just bought dji osmo mobile 3. you think which app is better for videos, dji memo app, filmic pro or native camera app, thanks in advance

[@iphoneographers]

For the highest quality results definitely use Filmic Pro. You have control over all your settings and higher bit rates for the video files (100 Mbps and up). The native app is fine for quick shots in good light, but for anything more involved go with FP.

[@sefasozen7987]

iPhoneographers thank you for reply. Fp is great for videos but i can not use dji osmo 3 like zhiyun smooth 4 via filmic pro. I hope there will be update on fp soon

[@TedTalksTech]

I've been having trouble with my Shure MV88 in that when I plug it in my iPhone the audio levels go in the red. When I go into Shure app and bring down the audio of the kid that fixes the problem but after awhile the audio levels go in the red again and when I go into the Shure app I see that the mic lvl has reset itself. Any pointers?

[@iphoneographers]

I’ve played with their app some, but not much. I primarily use Filmic Pro or MetaRecorder. So can’t offer much advice about that except to say check the mic gain setting and see if the limiter could be causing issues.

[@jeffmurnahan]

Hey can you make a video on how we can do this, but with screen recording for things like game play? If you can get it to work like that

[@iphoneographers]

Will look into it. Thanks

[@willbepilot189]

Can I actually record both Bluetooth audio from a microphone and the monitor audio from an headset?? Please ✨🙏🏻

[@Sander_Pronk]

Think the problem with the 3,5mm adapter is that it’s a mic+headphone connection. So the iPhone also outputs audio via that adapter. Once everything connected go to the Control Center and under media select the output device to the Bluetooth headphone. Works for me, hope it works for you to!

[@iphoneographers]

Will give that a try and report back. Thanks!

[@timkuhlman1977]

Is there a new link for that splitter? The one in your description links to an “unavailable” Amazon page

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks for letting me know. Will look at updating that as the product links can sometimes change or get discontinued. You might look at one like this… amzn.to/3xlViSI. Or what I’ve done recently is go to more of an interface like the Rode SC6-L or their new AI-Micro… I have videos on both: kzbin.info/www/bejne/il7be4mag95jgtk and kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5qQfJSZe8utiJo with product links in the video descriptions.

[@driftasmr5537]

Hello! I’m using a blue yeti with an adaptor and when I listen with my headset plugged into the blue yeti and record on Film mic pro, I hear a mechanic echo. Any clue on how to fix this? I have been all over the internet trying to. Thanks!

[@iphoneographers]

That’s probably just latency. Is it in the recording too or only while monitoring?

[@-NOVA-2023]

Hi I just recently purchased the second microphone you was having problems with the headset I was just wondering does your microphone work alone with FilmicPro without the headset that’s the issue I am having now is my microphone is not picking up I am not using a headset for playback audio I just need to record

[@iphoneographers]

I’ve since switched to using this with all mics and it has a headphone input. Solved all the issues for me… kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5qQfJSZe8utiJo

[@AdamChims]

Does Shure MV88 give you a stereo audio(plus other polar patterns) in Filmic Pro App?

[@iphoneographers]

If you’re connecting the mic directly like the Shure you should get stereo, but if you’re using a lightning cable adapter the stereo features don’t work we’ve learned.

[@EDYKILLS]

I recently got an iPad Pro and bought a dock (hope I’m using the right words lol) to connect my Scarlett interface and when I record audio with my XLR mic, the audio sounds fine but only records in mono (can only hear the audio in left ear on headphones) and I have yet to find a solution besides exporting the audio alone and making it stereo with a third party application then pasting it back on top of my video. It’s not the worst thing, but definitely takes a lot more work than if it just recoded in stereo, I haven’t found anyone else with this issue, so I hope I can find a fix or more efficient option, thanks in advance for any help‼️🤞

[@iphoneographers]

If you’re talking about a hub (or dock)… unless I’m misunderstanding, you don’t need that to go into a Scarlett. Just attach the Scarlett directly via USB-C. Then depending on the app you’re using you should be able to have it record in a mono mix (two channels). You can’t record in stereo because it’s not a stereo mic. Hope that makes sense!

[@exclusivelynyc]

Great video. For some reason Filmic Pro is not showing me the audio meters in on the left screen. Do you know why. I seem them in your video

[@iphoneographers]

This UI is for the wide screen phones starting with the iPhone X and later. Or wide screen Android devices. Thanks for watching!

[@exclusivelynyc]

@@iphoneographers thank you. I was sure I've seen thows meters way before iphone X; especially in filmic pro videos

[@ironrobotfilmsllc3790]

Have you had any luck with the Rode SC6-L?

[@iphoneographers]

Haven’t used that one personally, but people seem to like it. Definitely something I’ve been considering adding to my kit.

[@lyallgardiner1325]

Greetings Blake, Good Day, I am Lyall, Thank you for an informative video above, Can you please help me perhaps, I am shooting on an iPhone 13 Pro Max, External Smallrig Mic S20 & Filmic Pro V7, I am not sure what I am doing wrong but I am currently receiving cleaner audio from the built in Audio front mic from the iPhone 13 than I am from S20 mic. I assume I am doing something wrong but I can't figure it out. I am recording in a really quiet room and there is a consistent loud white noise in the background of every test video currently. The mic also has a rabbit foot and tried the other cover that came with the unit. I have tried to adjust gain control manually but it seems to do nothing much. At bit at a loss. Thank you for your time, if you can help. Sincerely LG.

[@iphoneographers]

Sounds like you’re getting some type of interference or hum. Try connecting a different mic or use a different lightning cable and see if it still does it. It could be a bad cable.

[@DmitriiMoscow]

Hello, good day, Does the lightning adapter work with rode microphones?

[@DmitriiMoscow]

And another question is whether the adapter will work with rode SC6-L?

[@iphoneographers]

Yes it works with the Rode VideoMicro. Not sure about the adapter.

[@TamilTechWorld1]

What is the name of that app

[@jessicademoor758]

Hi there! I have a question. I have an echo or a monitoring audio when i record with the mic of my bluetooth device. Do you now how I can record with the micro of my bluetooth earpods with hearing myself all the time? :-) Thank you very much!

[@remedybarre3450]

I have the same problem--I'd like to use my Apple Airpods to record audio while also recording video, but the echo is terribly distracting when speak. Is there a way to turn audio monitoring off?

[@RetroSuburbia]

me too. using Rode VideoMicro and getting an echo when monitoring

[@Ranger7Studios]

might I suggest using a Rode wireless go to make your headset wireless. plug the Rode in to the headphone jack and then the receiver in to you headphones.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah have seen that done before. Thanks for the suggestion. Haven’t used it personally. But actually used the Wireless Go to record this audio. 👍🏻

[@ShanMichaelEscasio]

I have tried this on my mom's galaxy a8+ 2018. Filmic pro mentionf support for my poco f2 pro in thechangelog but i think android 11 isn't supported yet? Anyway, i have an audiotechnica ath m40x and a splitter to use both my external mic and headphone. BUT nothing happens.

[@iphoneographers]

The splitter might have one side for charging and the other for sound. It depends on the device and splitter/interface. Don’t have experience with that phone model. You might look at iRig or other similar ones… amzn.to/2SxBUlE

[@ShanMichaelEscasio]

@@iphoneographers no. Both have female audio jacks. One for mic and on for headphones.

[@decoynda]

How do you get the sound meter on the side in filmic pro?

[@iphoneographers]

It’s this way on widescreen devices (19.5:9), so starting with the iPhone X and later. Also any Android devices with the same aspect ratio.

[@jeykneeko_606]

I’ve been able to get the rode video micro to work with airpods pro. My issue is that the mic takes over the record button on my dji gimbal. Do you know a solution?

[@iphoneographers]

Haven’t come across that one. Maybe you can map the controls in the app. Not sure though.

[@jeykneeko_606]

@@iphoneographers Thanks for replying. It turns out that Filmic Pro doesn’t support my gimbal yet (DJI OM5). Hopefully they’ll release an update soon.

[@TedTalksTech]

Troubleshoot: did you disconnect your BT headset before plugging your clipmic and Deity mic?

[@iphoneographers]

No, didn’t try that. Just left it on throughout. Will take a look at that. Thanks!

[@iphoneographers]

Just tried this... Plugged in the mic, opened Filmic Pro and then turned on the Bluetooth headphones and it worked. Must be an iOS thing. If I disconnect the mic and plug it back in then it doesn't work with the headphones, so you have to repeat the setup and then it works. Thanks for your suggestion!

[@ionceseenahedge2559]

I specifically dont want to monitor audio - I have a lightning to 3.5mm adapter then a splitter for headphones and a mic. I have a lav on the mic and want to listen to music. I have found an app that plays back music over recording with filmic and filmic doesnt record the music which is what I want. I only want filmic to record the lav, which it does but it also monitors the lav. Its annoying. What I'm trying to do is record karaoke songs on my motorbike. Recording using filmic and a lav in the helmet whilst another app play the backing track. Everything works fine apart from the voice mic monitoring with a slight delay making it like a speech jammer and hard to sing. Is there anyway to stop filmic pro from monitoring the mic audio? The stock app does but it doesnt give you the control that filmic pro does. Any help would be appreciated. :)

[@iphoneographers]

Wow, reading this made my brain hurt. 😃 I’ve never tried that scenario, but the short answer is I don’t think so based on your description. In the audio menu in Filmic Pro you can turn on video only but then that stops the audio from recording, so that isn’t your answer. You might have to use an external audio interface to pull that off? Hope you figure it out!

[@ionceseenahedge2559]

@@iphoneographers I figured. But, yeah, thanks. I've decided on recording the mic audio on a front facing gopro whilst keeping the handlebar mounted iphone forward. A separate recorder would be nice and/ or not having to clap sync stuff in the edit but hey ho.

[@Portnoy79]

is it possible to controlo mic gain to avoid saturation?

[@iphoneographers]

There is a manual input control in Filmic Pro.

[@GCKoerner]

Is that my old buddy Paul Goebel in your short?

[@austrian96]

Dear Sir, have you ever noticed that iPhone does not record STEREO audio with an external microphone? Neither native app nor Filmic Pro. Would you please comment, share your experience? Thank you!

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, it’s a limitation of the lighting port - however, with certain adapters like from RODE you can get split track into Filmic Pro, etc.

[@KenseiOtaku]

How do you get those audiobars on the right?

[@iphoneographers]

It's that way on any wider screen iPhone from the X or later. And any Android with the wider screen aspect ratio, too.

[@KenseiOtaku]

I'm using an Iphone 6S Plus, which is pretty wide. Maybe not supported on this model?

[@iphoneographers]

No, that’s 16x9. iPhone X and later are wider and support the different UI.

[@KenseiOtaku]

Thank you for the info

[@satan9487]

Aahahaha THANK YOU SO MUCH THIS WORKED

[@TonyBabarino]

First!!! #1 fan back on top. Literally. PS: Blake, can we get some podcast episodes? And on a weekly basis? Your fans are waiting! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@bsaleem97]

Lightening splitter links do not work. Might want to update.

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks for letting me know. Will get those updated.

[@Seanonyoutube]

For vlogging the latency is most definitely a deal breaker.

[@flippantfishtaco3132]

Why is there no audio meter for me in Filmic?

[@iphoneographers]

Some phone models the audio meter is very small and along the bottom.

[@tompfeiler1426]

This does not work with the Rode Videomic ME-L. 😢

[@iphoneographers]

Bummer. Good to know though. Thanks-

[@terrytk9398]

Thanks for the clip - but let’s be honest - it’s a mess with all these add-ons! Cables that work, headphones that won’t etc.😀

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah it can be. :)

[@JoeMurphysGuitarlessons]

I find filmic extremely annoying, as it is only compatible with certain mics. Surely they can do better. Anyone used mix pre with filmic ?

[@iphoneographers]

Haven’t tried that but it should work with the correct adapters.

[@ossme]

The rode needs a different cable ... I think

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks. The mic itself works fine, so it’s the proper cable for that part of it... Could be an iOS setting though. Doing more testing.