How to Remove and Replace a Johnson or Evinrude VRO oil Pump with a Direct Fuel Pump

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Jose's Extreme DIY

Jose's Extreme DIY

Күн бұрын

There's a lot of videos that describe how to disable a VRO2 unit. Here's how to go a step further and completely remove the VRO2 unit and replace it with a fuel pump. Link is below for parts list. You'll have to pre-mix your fuel after disabling or removing the VRO2 unit, but it's worth it in my opinion. You'll have the peace of mind knowing that your outboard is getting the lubricant it needs!
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@noahdboss1195
@noahdboss1195 2 жыл бұрын
what size screws?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_details.php?pnum=OMC0314417
@rickycox9616
@rickycox9616 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video. I have removed my VRO pump and replacing with the standard pump. I couldn't figure out what to do with the line coming out of the block, until I saw your video. I will plug it up and complete my project tonight and see how she runs.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ricky, I appreciate the positive feedback. I'm glad it was helpful. Let me know how ot goes when you fire it up again!
@briangay5418
@briangay5418 4 жыл бұрын
I just acquired a boat with an Evinrude V4 120 with the VRO setup and should I run into problems, this video will help me convert to just the pump. Great job on the custom manifold and love the colored racing fuel lines!
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad it's helpful! I couldn't just go stock with the fuel lines LOL!
@rodmauldin
@rodmauldin 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the video! I have an'89 Johnson 110 and had to have a new power head put on because the VRO was over oiling and eventually caused so much carbon lifting of the rings it ruined the previous power head. Also had Marina put a standard fuel pump on so I could just premix. Anyways the engine has never ran smoothly since the new power head.I figured my Carbs needed rebuilding as they leak down real bad when tilting engine. So today after taking the carbs off the intake I see a hose connected to the block / intake that isn't connected to anything else. Yep just laying there hidden under the bottom carb sucking air into the block! I immediately assumed it was a pulse source for the old VRO pump but it was hard to tell by parts drawings. Your video confirmed my hunch. My idle has been terrible since the new power head and fuel pump conversion and I now think this is the culprit along with the old leaking gaskets on the carbs. So hopefully when my carb rebuild kits come in, I will have good news to report. I'm probably going to just plug off he pulse hose like you did. Thanks again!
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, yeah running the enigine with that port open is going to create a lean condition for just that cylinder! Hopefully once you get the carbs back on an plug that hose it will run great. I also have two video on the carb rebuild if that helps, kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4CvqK1og7-Gg7c is the first one and kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZPKfYKHi7-BftU is the second one for the idle jet
@rockymountboy
@rockymountboy 2 жыл бұрын
My Evinrude/Johnson OEM fuel pump came without the gasket or bolts, so had to order them. The bolts are 10-24 1 3/4 stainless pan head. The gasket is pretty specific, so if you are going to order it, you might as well order the bolts as well.
@callmesceptical9114
@callmesceptical9114 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, especially the impulse port. I have a new OEM fuel pump on order to replace VRO on 90 hp, 1995 fat-4. Much appreciated!
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful to you!
@billholman279
@billholman279 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to put up this video. I just finished rebuilding my 1988 90hp Johnson. At the very end of the build I broke that same @#$%# fuel line manifold but remembered seeing this video so I'm using yours as an example. Much appreciated!!!
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I know exactly how you felt when the manifold broke! I'm glad this was helpful to you!
@frankfountain6029
@frankfountain6029 4 жыл бұрын
I love the video. I was just wondering how the new filter and fuel lines are holding up. Have a blessed day.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
SO far so good. To be honest though, I have not mounted the engine on my whaler, I'm still working on restoring the hull (and the weather is not cooperating).
@frankfountain6029
@frankfountain6029 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. I just wanted you to know that I completed my repair today. The exact changes you made, but I purchase the OEM brass manifold for about $50 from an online distributor. The engine has never run better and the fuel filter is excellent from what I can tell. Thanks again and I really appreciate your work.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankfountain6029 Sounds good, to be honest, If I had found the brass one for $50 I probably would have just bought that! Good deal and thanks!
@danallen5705
@danallen5705 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankfountain6029 any chance you can let us know where you got that manifold?
@thomasmcginnis9429
@thomasmcginnis9429 3 жыл бұрын
Hey ,your videos are very helpful ! I have a 1990 Johnson 70 horse and I've changed the fuel lines but where do you get those red and blue fuel lines that you use and what are the sizes I've actually used 5/32 and 1/16
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered those on Amazon. Hre's a link to all the parts I used, including hoses. bit.ly/35jyfJR
@christianriley1891
@christianriley1891 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1993 johnson 70hp 2 stroke. I want to take out vro to eliminate issues if it fails. Question is do I need to put a new fuel pump in? If I'm just going to pre mix it?
@jakedrexler5825
@jakedrexler5825 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Going to try and fix up this old motor.!
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 ай бұрын
Good luck! And Have fun!
@connormcquiston6485
@connormcquiston6485 2 жыл бұрын
Now what do we do With that existing brass nipple below the bottom carb?. I assume it’s to be left open? Great video! a ton of info here.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Leaving it open is fine, It did not affect how the engine ran at all.
@robertpapp96
@robertpapp96 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thank you. Good to know, there is a right place of the regular pump. Anyway if there is not this place, you can use the 3 lines regular pump and have to connecting to there the third hose. Am I right?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% sure of what you are describing but I don't think it will work. There is no way that I know of to attach the impulse line hose (from the original pump) to a replacement pump, unless it's another VRO pump that takes the impulse through a hose. I hope that helped.
@nazonjohnson5576
@nazonjohnson5576 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy my replacement pump has a pulse line on it. But where do you mount the pump to create pressure
@louisorr6472
@louisorr6472 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jose, thanks for the informative video. I have a 1985 Johnson 140hp with a VRO that has been working as only a fuel pump for quite some time (bolt in oil reservoir and alarm ables disconnected). The other day i had to pull the input fuel line out and ripped the nipple with it.. i want to change to a direct fuel pump, will the process be much the same as what you have demonstrated? thanks for any help!
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Probably so, the functions stay pretty much the same across most size ranges.
@unsaltedlife5998
@unsaltedlife5998 4 жыл бұрын
When you broke the manifold I thought omg at least he’s honest and put that in his video also the brass manifold you created is clever also got me thinking they have these in the HVAC world and refrigeration world too. Something solid with less breaks would be better no chances of a leak and fire. I’m not trying to scare you just want to help and not criticize so please don’t take offense. I’ve seen boats burn to the water line before. Great video and stay safe fellow boaters.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Your feedback is welcome and gratefully accepted. The manifold is my response to "how much do they want for that thing?" reaction lol. I will probably put an oem one on it were I to sell the motor.
@unsaltedlife5998
@unsaltedlife5998 4 жыл бұрын
Jose's Extreme DIY just keep a eye on it these engines shake so much that it could loosen up and leak. Hate to see the newly restored boat burn. Also I think if you looked in granger online you might find one for a few bucks. I’ve seen them coming off compressors for refrigerators that are used for stores.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@unsaltedlife5998 Cool, thanks for the heads up. I'll check Grainger!
@unsaltedlife5998
@unsaltedlife5998 4 жыл бұрын
Jose's Extreme DIY hey I was looking for the screws for the fuel pump let anyone know that True Value hardware has them they are 10-24 and however long you need stainless. For 59 cents. For the 2 inch. What length did you use?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@unsaltedlife5998 I I actually bought those screws as OEM and can't remember the length, I think they were about 2 inches. Here's a link to the part if that helps. www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_details.php?pnum=OMC0314417, it shows it as being approximately 4 3/4" in length
@brianmichelson9822
@brianmichelson9822 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jose, Thanks for trying to renew the links, but maybe it is on my end because I still cannot access those links. I am very interested in trying this repair myself though.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Try this link to my Amazon affiliate storefront, the fuel pump I used is the Sierra 18-7352 Fuel Pump www.amazon.com/shop/josesextremediy?listId=349RH73ZVZIJS
@dannilaser16
@dannilaser16 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you for sharing.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome! Thanks for watching!
@Cajunhobbies
@Cajunhobbies 7 ай бұрын
I don't know a lot about boats but will be taking this on I have a question So behind the carburetors there's a black box guessing it's an air intake what's the gasket between that and the carbs called so that I can replace it thanks in advance!!
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 7 ай бұрын
I think its called and intake manifold gasket. I would suggest checking with an online parts supplier for your particular engine. They have parts diagrams so you can get the right part number for what you need.
@brianmichelson9822
@brianmichelson9822 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jose, I just tried your link for a parts list for this project, and I could not find any information. It looks like the list is blank. Could you help me out with a new list as I have had it with the costs of taking my motor in to get serviced and would like to try this project on my own. Thanks!
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Try it now. It looks like most of the Amazon links were broken. I've re-added them so you should see something now.
@victoroneschuck4139
@victoroneschuck4139 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Jose for your video. Do you know at what psi this pump pumps at? I used oem 438556 and its pumping at 2 psi. Seems high and I'm flooding out after 2 hours of running. I checked all the usual suspects, carb float etc. I'm guessing my pump is too strong. Thanks!
@CountryFeral84
@CountryFeral84 6 ай бұрын
G’day, did you stick with this pump..?! I see this part numbered pump doesn’t have the 3rd barb..
@leeham8538
@leeham8538 2 жыл бұрын
lee ham , nice job an vid , try an help me with this , new carb kits , vro kit , still spits gas out of the top carb , idles up then down , then starts spitting gas out top carb thanks
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I would check the reeds, sounds like they aren't seating and the back pressure piston stroke blows the mix back out
@cdc9776
@cdc9776 2 ай бұрын
This may have been previously stated but with that type of fuel pump you don't need to add an inline filter as there is a cleanable screen inside beneath that center knurled bolt/screw at the inlet port. Thanks for the video.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@MrRojas54
@MrRojas54 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Any updates on the motor? How is she running?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
SHe starts right up and runs decent once warmed up. SHe still has a minor miss that I havent gotten around to looking at but is usable as is. I'll get that done in the next month or two and probably post a video on diagnosing misses. I'm still working on the whaler interior and hull so probably wont have the motor mounted until Spring 2020
@mikepodolas1637
@mikepodolas1637 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and blog post. I am trying to access the fuel manifold parts list but it doesn't show anything. Is it possible to throw up the links? TY in advance
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Mike, thanks for the heads up. For anyone experiencing the same issue, disable your ad blocker and you should be able to see the list.
@godised9534
@godised9534 2 жыл бұрын
Can you just cap the oil line on the outside and run premix, but have the inline pump by your tank
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
That's the standard way of doing it (you need to also disconnect the oil sensor). I thought I would take it up a notch in this video.
@hawgsnatcherscatfishing9075
@hawgsnatcherscatfishing9075 2 жыл бұрын
Wondered what size the smaller primer hoses are? Can’t seem to order them so far. I have same engine same conversion.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
It's 1/16" ID, here's an affiliate link to the ones I used, amzn.to/3uyshBZ
@Milo_Rivera_A
@Milo_Rivera_A 3 ай бұрын
What size fittings for manifold ? Barb size and what’s the fittings called
@jessebradin8992
@jessebradin8992 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 96 225 ocean pro. I premix for years. I suspect my 2nd VRO pump isn’t going bad. Is there a regular pump that I can use for this size motor? Part number or link?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
I din't know offhand but if you go to marineengine.com, you should be able to look at the parts diagram and see if there was a non VRO version of that engine. That's how I found mine.
@kingfish3066
@kingfish3066 4 ай бұрын
Another informative video Jose , I enjoy your channel a lot I'm getting ready to do the same thing on my 70 horse Johnson I was wondering what size hoses you're using for the carbs and from the solenoid looking around I seem to be getting a lot of different information just curious what you're using there I also like the racing hose that's pretty cool Thank you sir.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 ай бұрын
I put the following links for the hoses I used, hope this helps Parts List (Amazon Affiliate): Primer to Carb: amzn.to/3CC4MKh Manifold to Carb: amzn.to/30NWBgI Fuel Filter: amzn.to/3CC55op Fuel Pump: amzn.to/3x9NLWV
@kingfish3066
@kingfish3066 3 ай бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy alright cool that's exactly what I just had sent to my house it looked pretty close to what you were showing in the video so I went for it thanks man I appreciate your help and all the knowledge you share.
@zainkamoi
@zainkamoi 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Excellent and informative video. I have a 50Hp Johnson (-93 I think) with external oil reservoir. So the VRO is a bit more complex where oil and fuel gets mixed in the VRO. I plan to do the replacement of the VRO when winter comes. I see there are two types of fuel pumps available, three nipple and two nipple pumps, yours is a two nipple version it seems. Could it bee that the three nipple pump actually is an oil/fuel mixing fuel pump? Do you mix oil into the fuel tank yourself (ratio 50:1 i think is correct) or do you have an external reservoir as I do? Thought I should ask since the video did not mention it. I actually think that mixing the oil and fuel into the same tank would remove a lot of worries as I may remove several sources for error and simplifying the whole system. Only concern I have with that is that my VRO have a small PCB with sensors sensing oil flow, and a three wires connecting it to the main board. I need to find a way to bypass this, probably by just connecting the sens-wire to pos or neg terminal, so that the engine doesn't get shut down due to "oil flow" failure..
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I'll try to answer as best I can, the pump you mention with 3 ports does not do the mixing, the third port is for the impulse hose that was originally on the VRO unit. That 3 port pump is actually designed to replace the VRO pump and use the same bracket the VRO was on but IT DOES NOT mix the oil for you. YOu have to mix the oil your self at a 50:1 ration if you remove the VRO unit. There is a wire that needs to be disconnected on the VRO and that will disable the alarm feature.
@anniers6882
@anniers6882 Жыл бұрын
I just purchase a 1984 Envirude 185 Hp and there was not fuel either the vro or the conversion one so I’m trying to know witch lines go where, I have 2 entrances in the block should I use one pulse line and close the other one ? , in this case Im trying to install the same pump you use but the 3 hoses connections
@matthewbrunson9465
@matthewbrunson9465 2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us the size of the fuel lines from the manifold to the carbs/primer?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
These are Amazon Affiliate Links: Primer to Carb: amzn.to/3CC4MKh Manifold to Carb: amzn.to/30NWBgI
@briannall8028
@briannall8028 3 жыл бұрын
This video was very informative. I have a 50 hp evinrude. Do I have to replace vro if I just disconnect the vro? Will the vro still pump fuel if I mix it myself. Or is it just best to do this complete fuel pump swap to ease my mind
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Most folks just disable the VRO and run the fuel pump in it. I went ahead and took it out altogether although it's not really necessary. I looked at it as one less complex part to break down!
@briannall8028
@briannall8028 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy thank you very much. I will probably go ahead and keep it in there, and in due time watch this video again and remove the vro. Thanks again
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@briannall8028 You bet and your welcome!
@JoshRMalone
@JoshRMalone 2 жыл бұрын
Jose, nice video! What did you do on the old VRO plastic wire connection? Did you just wrap it electrical tape? Or do have to disable something?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Just wrapped it up in tape and tucked out out of the way.
@JoshRMalone
@JoshRMalone 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy Thanks! I also wanted to mention in case you are still having "a miss" like you mentioned in other comments, you might try removing the fuel filter since the new pump actually has a built in screen filter (per schematics) unlike the VRO2. So you might be restricting flow with double filter. Mine is a 1988 Evinrude (I believe that is what you said yours was). That said, double check! You probably already knew that and know more than I do, but figured I'd pass it along.
@matthewbrunson9465
@matthewbrunson9465 2 жыл бұрын
Great information thanks...Do you use the stock VRO air silencer or replace it with the non VRO air box??
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I used the stock air box and tie wraps to secure the manifold
@CountryFeral84
@CountryFeral84 5 ай бұрын
Is the air silencer the black flat box at the front that the VRO/fuel pump was mounted to..?! When the VRO unit came off it, it had those rubber grommets that held it in, did you plug it..?!
@dannydaniel2990
@dannydaniel2990 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@jnieto0560
@jnieto0560 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jaysonlacock8907
@jaysonlacock8907 4 жыл бұрын
Not all heros wear capes, you sir are a life saver
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you! Best compliment ever!
@rusty6583
@rusty6583 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy on the new fuel pump. Do u need to plug the hole on back of pump?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@rusty6583 Yes you do or you will lose compression on that cylinder.
@rusty6583
@rusty6583 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy thank u sir. Great video.
@NolanBuda-fp3nz
@NolanBuda-fp3nz 2 ай бұрын
​@ExtremeDIYGuy you have to plug it!? What did you plug it with? Just orderd my pump and hardware but did not get a plug.. damn! Great video by the way! Thanks
@anttilehtinen9460
@anttilehtinen9460 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Very good video. I have a Johnson 60hp vro 2 cylinder year 1985. So it is very similar to yours. Is the part number for the pump really 438559? It looks in pictures to have 3 nozzles. Yours seems to have just two. Could the right part number be 438556?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for catching that! The correct part number is indeed 438556. I would encourage anyone to double check part numbers. Marineengine.com is an excellent resource for that. Thanks again! I corrected that on the website with the sierra version of the fuel pump.
@jasonmiller7199
@jasonmiller7199 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy i have a 1990 60hp envinrude that i took out the VRO and oiler and converted to fuel pump. i have 3 cyl and do i keep the pulse limiter hooked up to new fuel pump? mine has 3 lines off fuel pump. i have it hooked up that way but runs like crap, hard start and doesn't idle well, it also has lean fuel (blueish) coming out out #2,3 carbs. I don't know if i need the pulse limiter since that is what drove the VRO correct? do i cap the line off pump and limiter?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmiller7199 You should only need the impulse line directly from the block. Perhaps I misunderstood your question?
@bassninja7969
@bassninja7969 4 жыл бұрын
Is ther a clip to release the vro wires? I'm trying to remove mine
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
The VRO wires are connected with a plastic electrical plug. There is a small clip (on mine) on the plastic that you have to lift up to disconnect. Hope this helps.
@rogersmith5167
@rogersmith5167 3 жыл бұрын
Why not change the VRO diaphragms and service the unit, I have been told that Ethanol in the fuel has caused many problems, correct me if I am wrong.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that ethanol can definitely gum things up. I've also heard that rebuilt VRO's dont work right more often than not. I prefer pre-mix on these older engines and rather than just disabling the VRO, thought it would make more sense to take it off. I still have the old one though and may take a crack at rebuilding it.
@leeham8538
@leeham8538 2 жыл бұрын
lee ham , thanks for the info , that should fix my problem ,thanks
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome Lee
@Oo7Hola
@Oo7Hola Жыл бұрын
Do these engines have a oil change besides the gear oil that needs to be changed ?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy Жыл бұрын
No oil change, on a 4 stroke, the oil is mixed into the fuel
@wyzzardfamily
@wyzzardfamily 11 күн бұрын
Amazing. Will need to do this to my new to my 40hp vro 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@kevinheus3213
@kevinheus3213 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know what size bolts those were to mount the fuel pump?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 5 жыл бұрын
My apologies, I looked back through my notes and found that I actually used OEM bolts for these. The aftermarket SS bolts I ordered were for another fix I did on the engine. If it helps, the OMC part# is 0314417. marineengine.com has them for $2.42 ea. www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_details.php?pnum=OMC0314417 Although I would say that if ordering from them, I would order any other parts you might need to offset the cost of shipping
@dannybaker6627
@dannybaker6627 5 жыл бұрын
Extreme DIY can you tell us the thread size and length?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 5 жыл бұрын
@@dannybaker6627 I looked back through my notes and found that I actually used OEM bolts for these. The aftermarket SS bolts I ordered were for another fix I did on the engine. If it helps, the OMC part# is 0314417. marineengine.com has them for $2.42 ea. www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_details.php?pnum=OMC0314417 Although I would say that if ordering from them, I would order any other parts you might need to offset the cost of shipping
@jakejacobson2999
@jakejacobson2999 11 ай бұрын
So this is what you HAVE to do if you want to premix instead of the secondary oil tank?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@jakejacobson2999
@jakejacobson2999 10 ай бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy thank you because I had saw other videos and what they were saying was you could pretty much just plug the hose up and do other things but it really sounded like a hard job and didn’t seem right
@PLP-DIY
@PLP-DIY 2 жыл бұрын
Doing the exact same thing on the exact same motor right now….the little brass Mille coming out of the bottom of the block behind the carb it’s not connected to anything in your video and it’s not on mine either…do you know what it is and where it goes and what I should do with it
@PLP-DIY
@PLP-DIY 2 жыл бұрын
Brass nipple*
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
That's part of the flame arrestor setup. Normally there is a hose connected to it that (if I remember correctly) goes to the airbox, outboard carbs typically spit back some fuel, the nipple is supposed to suck it back into the engine.
@jasonmiller7199
@jasonmiller7199 3 жыл бұрын
i have a 1990 60hp envinrude that i took out the VRO and oiler and converted to fuel pump. i have 3 cyl and do i keep the pulse limiter hooked up to new fuel pump? mine has 3 lines off fuel pump. i have it hooked up that way but runs like crap, hard start and doesn't idle well, it also has lean fuel (blueish) coming out out #2,3 carbs. I don't know if i need the pulse limiter since that is what drove the VRO correct? do i cap the line off pump and limiter?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I would think you should cap of the impulse line that went to the CRO and use the impulse port on the block.
@jasonmiller7199
@jasonmiller7199 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy i dont see that port on my block, i have watched 10 videos of these but i don't find mine, E60TLESM
@mental0883
@mental0883 3 жыл бұрын
I recently did what you did. But was wondering about the lower pump hose. Do you clamp that off or will it effect the idol issue I’m having?? Thanks
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
If your talking about the impulse hose coming out of the engine to the VRO, absolutely clamp that off. If that is open your lower cylinder will lose compression on the backstroke, it's like having a defective reed.
@mental0883
@mental0883 3 жыл бұрын
Jose's Extreme DIY There’s a hose that comes from the air silencer base (box) and goes straight to the “fitting to lower pump”. I can show you a picture of it is there an email I can sent it too?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@mental0883 That hose is to recycle gas that sprays or spills into the airbox from the carbs to the lower cylinder. I plugged min up.
@mental0883
@mental0883 3 жыл бұрын
Jose's Extreme DIY Oh ok!! I was just watch your video on cleaning the reeds, and saw the hose I was referring to. What do you suggest I plug it with? Also how would that effect the engine if one didn’t plug that?? I ask because my outboard is having trouble holding idol. And tips (videos) on fixing that issue? Also great videos.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@mental0883 Thanks! I would just stick a bolt in in it or if you still have an airbox leave it connected. I think that leaving it open will probably have the lower cylinder run a tad towards the lean side but am not 100% sure about that. Thanks!
@jarrodjernigan5013
@jarrodjernigan5013 3 жыл бұрын
i have a 1985 120 hp and i want to remove the vro. im unsure of what fuel pump to go with. Anyone mind pointing me in the right direction? tia
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
You should probably check marineengine.com. The parts lists there should give you some guidance.
@wendigo95
@wendigo95 2 жыл бұрын
What thread size and length stainless bolts did you use?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have the size handy but here's a link to the bolts I used: www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_details.php?pnum=OMC0314417
@ch2305
@ch2305 3 жыл бұрын
I am unable to access your FULL PARTS LIST -- all the links do not connect -- are you able to fix this? Thanks
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Try again
@barriepewter
@barriepewter 5 жыл бұрын
hate to be a bother, but is there a part # for the complete Fuel Pump Assembly.. I bought an abused 1997 Four Winns Fling Turbojet, original 115hp OMC engine blown and has been replaced with 'another' that I am still trying to positively identify.. I need to replace the head gaskets, hoping to find a number on the heads to reference the correct gasket.. will that be good enough do you think?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Him not a bother at all. The Fuel pump for this engine is OMC # 0438556, it does not come with a gasket which is part # 0303615. I would go with an aftermarket part as there is a significant cost difference. As far as the engine head, there is usually a small circular plate on top of the block about the size of a quarter. The markings on that may help identify the engine. The best place to find part numbers is www.marineengine.com. I buy parts from them as well.
@barriepewter
@barriepewter 5 жыл бұрын
thank you, engine is only running now off small tank with primer bulb.. excited to see what it will do.. want to make it into fishing boat, good for shallows.. call it The Swamp Fling
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck and happy fishing!
@9571kent
@9571kent 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you plug the nipple under the carbs on the crank case?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I plugged the hose that went to that nipple
@9571kent
@9571kent 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy oh ok. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't needed
@135-j
@135-j Жыл бұрын
U know anything about delete vro on 2004 Yamaha outboard 70hp
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy Жыл бұрын
I don't have one so can't do a video on that
@javiermontes3777
@javiermontes3777 10 ай бұрын
​@@ExtremeDIYGuyhey man you think you have a part number for the gas filter
@jjamesdeadman
@jjamesdeadman 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know the size for the fuel lines feeding the carbs. And the size for the nipples on the manifold. I have a 1989 70hp johnson with three carbs.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I used 3/16 ID from the manifold to the carbs, amzn.to/3e3urBb
@haroldewingiii3906
@haroldewingiii3906 Жыл бұрын
what do you do with the wires from the VRO pump?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy Жыл бұрын
Just tape them off.
@jasonmiller7199
@jasonmiller7199 3 жыл бұрын
only other thing i think it may be are the reeds? literally only thing i haven't replaced on this motor other than power head.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
It's worth pulling them and inspecting. Have you checked your ignition system?
@jasonmiller7199
@jasonmiller7199 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy yes all is new and checks out. i will look at reeds next
@waucheesione2828
@waucheesione2828 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the size of the bolts that hold the non vro pump to the block once relocated? Having a hard time getting something appropriate and don't want to strip things out. Any help is appreciated.
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a link to the correct size bolts. www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_details.php?pnum=OMC0314417
@rockymountboy
@rockymountboy 2 жыл бұрын
10-24 1 3/4 pan head stainless steel
@rehaha8935
@rehaha8935 3 жыл бұрын
and one more question is it normal my johnson take 2L gass in 10 minutes in normal mode
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Not really sure but that does sound like a lot. What size motor is that?
@kodibassInsideoutboards
@kodibassInsideoutboards 3 жыл бұрын
SO n the spirit of My Channel,,, Wonderful Video, thank U . kodibass
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I just checked out your channel and yes, in the same spirit. We even both have a whitish goatee, except you have more hair than I do lol. Thanks for the props!
@user-ue5bx3qh5t
@user-ue5bx3qh5t Ай бұрын
What's the correct fuel oil mix
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy Ай бұрын
I used 40:1 but really depends on the engine.
@user-ue5bx3qh5t
@user-ue5bx3qh5t Ай бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy I'm running a Johnson fifty twin I seen fifty to one but wanted to have a safety build in so was going to go forty to one thanks for the reply
@jeffarnold8454
@jeffarnold8454 3 жыл бұрын
How did it proform?
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 3 жыл бұрын
It performed well. Perhaps a bit better but hard to tell with an older outboard.
@CountryFeral84
@CountryFeral84 4 ай бұрын
@@ExtremeDIYGuy did you have to alter any throttle/fuel/idle settings..?! Mine now seems to cough and splutter and only seems to run continuously by pushing in the key to activate the primer solenoid. Lots of smoke, ha ha..
@ewanbaxter9199
@ewanbaxter9199 Жыл бұрын
You don't have to mount it on the engine though. It is easier by far if you mount it on a flat plate in place of the VRO and no need to plug the impulse hose because it is used..
@callmesceptical9114
@callmesceptical9114 Жыл бұрын
Huh? Of course you need to plug the impulse hose, and of course you need to mount the pump to impulse port. ✌️
@maxhiltin1133
@maxhiltin1133 Жыл бұрын
The 3 nipple sure, the two nipple you absolutely have to mount it exactly as video states..
@leeham8538
@leeham8538 2 жыл бұрын
lee ham its a 1989 40hp evinrude
@austinlimitertap3851
@austinlimitertap3851 Жыл бұрын
Mine just blew up from the factory vro......
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy Жыл бұрын
Exactly why i removed mine, sorry to hear about your motor.
@peterkohl1863
@peterkohl1863 2 жыл бұрын
For a guy that does not understand terms what is a VRO unit
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Variable-Ratio Oiling system
@honda450rider87
@honda450rider87 4 жыл бұрын
@10:10 in case you don't know how to pronounce edelbrock, just remember it rhymes with needlecock lol
@ExtremeDIYGuy
@ExtremeDIYGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, thanks! The funny thing is I knew that. Been a fan of Edelbrock since I was a teen. I suppose I was cam scared or something. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
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