How to Start Napoleonic Prussians

**Throughout the video, you'll see some beautifully painted landwehr and line battalions, they are for sale! (not buy me, they're waaaay too nice! they were painted by the very talented Daniel Kerrick) Check out The Napoleonic Wargamer Buy and Sell group on Facebook and bag yourself some very nice units!**
So, the How to Start Prussians video is finally here! Going in I had absolutely zero interest in collecting them, but now, that Hiller brigade...hmmmm :D
Hope you guys enjoy, if you'd like to see 1806 let me know, and I'll see you in the next one!

[@jamesbarbour327]

I have broadly followed your guidelines for this, as I am making a small Prussian army for my brother. I made one Landwehr regiment, two regular three battalion regiments with the fusilier conversion kit; the small jaeger unit AND a reserve infantry regiment (using Portuguese Warlord figures). I also did the Warlord hussars (not a fan) some of the new Perry Prussian dragoons , two command bases and two artillery batteries. ALMOST done and they look impressive, particularly the Princess Louise dragoons.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Awesome! And a great hussar regiment choice! Let me know how it fares on the field of battle!

[@donaldsettle990]

1806 are what I am doing love those uniforms and variety

[@jamesbarbour327]

Please do an 1806 army for Prussia as well. I have this on my own table, and really enjoy the wide variety of uniforms of this epoch. Also it will be interesting to see how you get it on the table for 200 Ls.

[@henrymartin6739]

I’d love to see a start collecting “Austerlitz” or “Jena” for each nation involved in the battle.

[@scarfacejosh123]

@@henrymartin6739 Yes! I'd especially like a start collecting for these battles for 10mm or 15mm

[@dupeesfashionconsultant4204]

Would definitely be into the 1806. Perfect timing I just started collecting 1815 prussians, just wanted a change of pace from the British.....they're definitely an interesting army to try to collect in the us right now...and I can definitely agree that the Perry line imfa try box is great, I was able to get my hands on a couple boxes and they're great and I love the sculpts

[@geordimi]

Two years ago, a Warlord Games sprue clearance took place, I got a WHOLE bunch of landwehr sprues (1 pound for 6 minis, 4 pounds per battalion). A small kitbashing for command, and I now have 6 landwehr battalions for 24 pounds. Plastic prussian cavalry is imminent also, so a good time for Prussians!

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

That's crazy! Great value! I got a bunch of French in the same sale, 40 sorues for a pound each!

[@geordimi]

@@NapoleonicWargaming That's probably the reason why there won't be such a clearance anymore :)

[@nickhindley4295]

The alure of epic scale in a nutshell, the first £100.00 buys 4 battalions, a gun and bases. For £65.00 (3rd party retailer) gets you 5 battalions of Landwehr, 8 battalions of line, 2 battalions of ranked Jaegers, a unit of skirmishers, 6 units of cavalry, 11 guns, 8 colonels, bases and flags. I do love my 28mm as the glory of the uniforms can be clearly seen. I like the epic/15mm for bigger scale battles and the fantastic value. Epic has to be a very attractive way to get into ACW, Napoleonic and now ECW/30YW.

[@pw972]

Thank you for another good video. Interesting to see that you are going for a historical formation. Keep up you good work.

[@philRminiatures]

Always glad to look at landwehr units on a table...Hervorragend!👍

[@ratelmike8825]

Absolutely fantastic series on the Prussians thanks. This How to start series is also brillaint.

[@wp9746]

This will be of great use to me, thanks mate. I’m planning to focus on 1813 pre-armistice (which is Lützen and Bautzen mainly) War of German Liberation. I was thinking about how to start my Prussian army after I finish the French and I was so glad that this video popped up at that moment, keep up the good work!

[@neilmoulden5323]

Calpe miniatures or Frontrank miniatures. They are both outstanding sculpts. Painting them is a joy.

[@robertcavagna6819]

Oh Dear, the painting!! Just completing a box of the Perry Prussian Line Infantry, 1813-1815. Great set, including the six jager figures. Love The Channel!

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

They do look nice! Cant wait to get mine done!

[@jamielucky6600]

Awesome video! Keep up the good work. I'd love to see a battle report like midwinter minis does

[@websterlf]

Great video, thanks! I've recently taken the plunge into Prussians. I've taken the historical approach and am building 1st Brigade from the 100 Days Campaign (2 line regiments, 1 landwehr, 1/2 a Schutzen battalion, 1 Cavalry Regiment and an artillery battery). For cost purposes I'm mostly focusing on plastics from Warlord and Perry where possible. Will maybe look at metals for future brigades!

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Sounds like a great project! I do like metals, but I'm with you, the cost is a factor, I'd just rather have 2 plastic battalions than 1 metal one!

[@ShakosAndSprues]

Good video and a great starting point for many. A more mixed Prussian Brigade and one that I'm working on would be the 9th Infantry Bridge under Klux during 1813. A Mix of Infantry, Reserve Infantry, and Landwehr supported by artillery, Schutzen, Artillery and depending on the exact time period A Regiment of Dragoons.

[@fraso7331]

'Silesia' and Silesian would be the English words for 'Schlesien' and 'Schlesisch'. The 'e' in Schlesien is spoken like the 'e' in 'well'. The rest of your pronounciation was good. They had 2 howitzers and 6 cannons. So every thing is fine with that. None of the units of the 16th Brigade had flags. They were issued in the autumn of 1815. Because this is the case with most Prussian units, I do one miniature more per regiment, to change it for display or for more historic accurate games.

[@coryhanlon7754]

Thanks for these as always! Much appreciated :)

[@armyjacky96]

Wargames Atlantic is an up and coming plastic miniature manufacturing company. They just started their Napoleonic line with British sharpshooters coming first. Followed by Prussian Reserves and the Spanish. But what really matters is plastic Prussian reserves!

[@Beltayn7272]

I've just got my first box of the Prussian reserve! With command from Perry, I'll be at three reserve battalions and three battalions of line.

[@tabletopgeneralsde310]

Great inspiration, that is really helpful. Thanks for your effort.

[@TwisstedSage]

Here, hear Tim.I’m still slogging through my British & Peninsula War army but eventually, if I live that long, I’ll be looking for a new theater & a new army.I’ll be wanting to stick with my French so Prussians of 1806 would be the natural foil for them to oppose.Besides which I don’t believe I’ve even seen illustrations of the 1806 Prussian army & it’s uniforms, so please do put together a video on the subject. I’m really enjoying the advent calendar game,although I don’t recognize most of the films & can’t imagine doing all the work it would take to figure it all out, its put you & me both in the good graces of my wife,as she grew up with that tradition so recognizes & appreciates my enthusiasm. Hugs from Texas.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Ha. Thanks man! I'll be doing a video after xmas going through all the films, maybe they'll be on Netflix or Amazon, I'll have to check that actually...thanks for the kind words, and more importantly, thanks for watching the videos! 1806 Prussians is definitely a go, they're quite fabulous! The Peninsular War is a good theatre, and my first armies were for that, but central Europe is definitely a step up in scale!

[@WARdROBEPlaysWWII]

Gives me inspiration for a project I’m working on.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

That's great to hear! We all need that push of enthusiasm now and again *my final Polish battalion glares at me*... 😂

[@alphalegion2005]

the video i have been waiting for cheers dude, just started a Prussian force :D

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Awesome! I'm tempted to get a small force myself I must say...

[@alphalegion2005]

@@NapoleonicWargaming picked up a couple of Perry metal fusilier packs and have some Jaeger's hussar's and a box of landwier on the way Will probably go the route you've done in the video as it gives me a historical force with a few added extras

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@@alphalegion2005 that's my thought too tbh. Some nice modelling opportunities with them being in the streets of Placenoit

[@Blaxkleric]

Great video. Not heard of WGs Prussian Hussars before, so were they pulled in the end over quality issues..? Definitely would like to see an 1806 video please. I’ve got some Foundry Prussians so would enjoy seeing how the army differs from the 100 days one.

[@Rusty_Gold85]

On most Nap Face book sites I have thrown in the Files section an Excel sheet on manufacturers of Napoleon 28mms , so you all can find prussian Manufacturers , for instance

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Good idea! I rediscovered Black Jussar yesterday, I'd completely forgotten about them!

[@Chrisbo123]

Awesome as usual! Really makes it hard to withstand impuls buys. is a How to Start Spanish planned? (asking for a friend) ^^

[@CullodenPaintingStudio]

Great stuff. I would recommend Caliver Books for a 3rd party alternative. Basic website but free worldwide postage if you spend over £25.

[@jonathank2348]

Definitely please do the the 1806 Prussians and maybe throw in some Saxons while you're at it!

[@mr.butter1019]

Would definitely not mind having that 1806 video.

[@historypunkwargames4760]

Great stuff just got my first set of perry Prussian line

[@FreeFragUK]

Admittedly I'm curious about your 1806 recommendation. I'm not sure if you already made a video covering so I'll need to check. I'm currently on the precipice of jumping into Napoleonics from a primarily WW2 background and it's looking like I'll be doing 15mm as this is what the people I know are using. Admittedly I'd vastly prefer 6mm for this. This is an excellent video and I'll look at translating the recommendations into 15mm

[@maryhinge6334]

Some great ideas Tim. I’m thinking of doing an 1815 Prussian force for Sharp Practice so it’s good to know what the Warlord and Perry sets are like. But I must admit, given the relatively low figure count for the game I might just hang the expense and go fo Front Rank or Calpe. But I agree that would probably be too pricey if I was doing big battalions for Black Powder or something similar. 🙂

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

I'm hearing a lot of good things about Calpe, not go any myself though so cant really comment on them. Front Rank are...well they're front rank 😂. I'm getting my Russian guard from them!

[@basicminiaturepainting]

Perfect timing as I've got a french army a British army but only 1 regiment of prussians

[@ConstableGrey]

Did you see on Perry's facebook the other day, they posted some previews of plastic Prussian cav. Looking very tasty.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

I did! I'm super excited (more for the Russians tbf)

[@dtcspyker6599]

I know this is an old video but I'd still love to see an 1806 Prussian army.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

It's in thr planning for this year!

[@mabinogion7023]

The thing to note about the Warlord Landwehr is that they did redo them- the current version are ok but the earlier version look like playmobil. You can still buy the earlier version from some resellers- avoid. The warlord casualty pack is good imho and the standing casualty figs can be used to break up static lines. The warlord landwehr command packs have some nice poses but are costly. You get an office figure and a drummer in the landwehr box but you dont get a standard bearer, so either modify an infantryman ( easy) or get warlord or perry landwehr command. The perry option gives you 2 x different sets of 3 figs. Absolutely agree on the flags. In big games in particular they are what you see...

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Haha. I dont mind them sp much, but yeah they're not amazing (sorry for the late reply, for some reason this was held for review...weird)

[@alasdairhughs6903]

Base artillery crew, skirmishers and command on 20x20 individual square bases - that way they can be swapped between units

[@BrushQuill]

Very interesting video, with some balanced options. Yes for 1806. Are you going to do all the forces? E.g. Portuguese, Spanish etc?

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

I will eventually! I'm waiting to see the Wargames Atlantic Spanish before I make my video on them though!

[@historypunkwargames4760]

Who else is excited for the release for New plastic Prussian and Russian cav from the Perry’s later next year

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

More than I can say! One of the things in really looking forward to is having spare Russian cavalry heads so I can kitbash the regiments that more French breastplates but Russian helmets. There's also the chance you could make the 1813 Prussian Garde du Corps that wore French Carabinier armour, depends on Prussian headgear in the box

[@jeremydarge1990]

Please do an 1806 Prussian army. Also Prussian fusiliers had Black leatherwork not white. Plus you could exchange some units for reserve battalions. Some regiments lost their 2nd or Fusilier battalions and had them replaced from reserve formations.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Very interesting! I wondered where the reservists slotted in

[@adamhammer5210]

Love this video. Do you have a painting guide for this?

[@martinradcliffe4798]

Excellent. May do this very thing in 18mm, though my Prussians will demand uhlans!

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

As well they should! :D

[@davidcollins2648]

1806 for me plz! Ofcourse I'm building 1/72 scale so between HaT and ESCI for infantry they cover the majority. Strelets released 3 sets of cavalry covering 1812, I don't know uniform differences before that period,

[@markwarne893]

Hi, Quick question, do you know of a good painting guide for the prussians?

[@Mortwarius]

May I ask, maybe you can publish a list of the units/boxes in the vid descriptions? That would be really helpfull up to my point of view.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

They're all pretty laid out in the video? You mean as a reference?

[@Mortwarius]

@@NapoleonicWargaming yes right like that! Cause sometimes you are changing between the manufacturors quite fast - and for me as a german, it is almost impossible to follow. What I meant was - is to make it clear, so you could put a list, no idea if it is important for you, independent from the manufacturors, or not.That just new "Napoleonics" do have a "path". E.g. 3 Boxes of line infantery 1 Boxes of landwehr 3 Boxes of cav and so on or 48 Minis of Line infantery 8 Minis of Cav 12 Minis of Landwehr 1 (5) Minis of Arty just to allow the "new" "Napoloenics" to have a kind of sceeme! Thx for your reply

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@@Mortwarius it's a fair point! I'll see what I can do!

[@kuriboh635]

Nice video. I've never played any war games. Are there any companies that make Americans for this game? I've always thought it would have been cool to have us fight in the battle of waterloo

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

There is one I can think of, Brigade Games. They are based in the states too! Alternatively their uniforms were very similar to the British, you can definitely use them, paint the red coats blush and you're good to go! Check out and War of 1812 miniature ranges too

[@therick3645]

Does the 60-man Prussian reserve from Wargames Atlantic replace anything in here now? maybe instead of the landwehr?

[@Castillo525]

Same question, if you look closely to the other of battle you'll see that Von Hiller's brigade had the 15th infantry regiment, which was also the 3rd reserve regiment, so Im a little confused too.

[@blecao]

i would say that for landwer they are quite interesting for 2 boxes you get 5 landwerh regiments of 24

[@tonk8395]

That cap is so goofy 💀💀💀

[@Miniwargaming101]

I know this is an older video, so my comment might not mean much, but... the white circle on the shako for Fusiliers was only for the 1812 campaign. Perhaps reasonable if you're doing an army for that time, but then you wouldn't have Landwehr as the draft wasn't till the 1813 German campaign. That said, Fusilier cross-straps were black, which is a pretty simple painting distinction that is less year-dependent. They wouldnt normally carry standards either, being a light battalion, but hey, flags are cool. Also, I'd love to see a video on starting the 1806 Prussians! The available options are far more limited so it'd be nice to see how far you could stretch the budget.

[@williammountfield8508]

Can you do bavarians?

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

I've been waiting for thr victrix ones to be released, so soon my friend!

[@williammountfield8508]

@@NapoleonicWargaming before you draw the winner on the advent calendar challenge?

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@@williammountfield8508 hahaha

[@neilmoulden5323]

I wouldn't use Warlord Landwehr even if I got them for free. They are horrible. Perry's are OK as long as you don't have to use and metal models. If you are serious about doing Prussians you have only 2 choices. Calpe miniatures which has the best and most extensive range of Prussians, or Frontrank miniatures which also have a good range. They can be used in the same army, though I wouldn't mix them. They are close but still enough of a difference in 28mm. As for uniform variety you only have to look at the reserve units. One Regiment of 3 battalions could have 3 different uniforms. Especially in 1813/14. Great serise always enjoyable.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Is that from reviews or so you have some yourself?

[@neilmoulden5323]

That's from years of painting and collecting them. Most of my posts are about Prussian miniatures.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@Neil Noulden I'd only ever completely write something off like that after seeing and handling them myself, not just from internet reviews, especially as WG seems to get a lot of hate for some reason. I've used 2 boxes for opolchenie and they seem fine to me? Is it just the plastics you hate, or the metals too?

[@neilmoulden5323]

The sculpt is just horrible. The hands are grossly out of scale. Also compared to other makes they are just lifeless. If you don't care and are doing a quick cheap army fine, but to me Napoleonic wargaming is a lifelong passion and I want the best miniatures to paint. I spend a lot on uniform books and histories so I want my miniatures to reflect that.

[@neilmoulden5323]

I forgot to say that I generally like Warlords products. I've painted a lot of their plastic WW2 miniatures which are great as well as the metal range that go with them.

[@historypunkwargames4760]

Maybe start a discord server?

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

discord.gg/gThvsavEMD ;)

any chnace of doing a penisular war british army.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Its definitely on the list!

@@NapoleonicWargaming great news, and thanks for all the great videos.

[@NossCalavera1670]

Buy Calpe. You get less but the quality is well ahead of Warlord Games rubbish.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

What is it you dont like about the WG stuff?

[@NossCalavera1670]

@@NapoleonicWargaming It's poorly sculpted and poorly produced. You'll find that Perry and Victrix plastics are much better than Warlords. That said, Calpe Prussians are the best on the market.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@@NossCalavera1670 for my purposes they look good enough, for armies the size I like them pure Calpe are far too expensive, but that's the great thing about Naps. Plenty of choice!

[@paulwinter1688]

Mr Channel. Are you interested in playing new players? My gaming group has taken up black Powder. I’d like to play you!

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Always up for a game buddy! Where abouts are you guys located?

[@paulwinter1688]

@@NapoleonicWargaming Chelmsford Essex, willing to travel though. You?

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

I'm in Sheffield, but likewise happy to travel. I used to live in south Essex so I still head back there to see friends, we'll have to sort something if the world ever gets back to normal!