How to win the Korean War

During the Korean War, Douglas MacArthur had an interesting way the United States of America could gain victory over North Korea and China. Involving many Nukes. Many Many Nuclear Weapons actually.
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Truman: “… you need *what* to win the war?” MacArthur: “Did I stutter?”

[@christiandickson2738]

“You fucken heard me”

[@pierluigiadreani2159]

oppenheimer "I have become death, I am a very bad person..." Truman "I gave the order, the blood is on MINE hands, I did what I HAD TO" MacArthur, on a darker corner of the room "34 targets...Cobalt...⬆➡⬇⬇⬇"

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@@connertomaterhater6691spreading democracy before super earth was even around

[@whitezombie10]

We should have listened to him

[@2dhistory197]

imagine if this happened .north korea would have more weebs than japan

[@quangnguyenhorus3752]

And then Japan would infect the world with J-Pop.

[@lix1135]

@@quangnguyenhorus3752 in case you didnt know, j-pop is a thing and its popular af

[@timetochronicle]

​@@quangnguyenhorus3752you mean Kpop. There'd be more Kpop

[@ArpanDe]

No ​@@timetochronicle

[@phantaivinhtien7153]

Considering 34 is a h*ntai number

[@Kardia_of_Rhodes]

"Their skin's already yellow anyway, what's the big deal?" - MacArthur, probably

[@045jerson7]

Damn 💀

[@Yuki_Ika7]

Not entirely sure he would say that given that he loved the citizens and troops of the Philippines, racists could lump them in as "yellow" too

[@erlinacobrado7947]

​@@Yuki_Ika7Filipinos were always considered brown by Americans.

[@x_chadboy2267]

​@@Yuki_Ika7as a Filipino I would say brownish instead of yellow

[@cat000]

​@@x_chadboy2267 orange

[@munanchoinc]

"Geneva Convention, More Like Geneva Checklist"

[@2Tiny_Ant]

Geneva Suggestion

[@The_United_States_Of_America76]

The Ultimate crossover

[@zerosuitsamus2340]

Geneva Memevention

[@XOFInfantryman]

Unfunny, come up with original joke It stopped being funny the 200th time it was said

[@salvadordomenech6509]

Geneva Guidelines

[@bostonbakedbeans5071]

Truman: I will not use nuclear armaments as means to end conflict! MacArthur: *SEA OF IRRADIATED COBALT*

[@deauthorsadeptus6920]

Also americans when nuclear tests they did irradiated a bunch of unaware us citizens: "Who could knew that this was going to happen?" And then they injected a bunch of random people with radioactive material to see what happens.

[@69amogus420]

@@deauthorsadeptus6920 the price of freedom, democracy... and liberty! no, i'm not being sarcastic.

[@jpowens2253]

​@@deauthorsadeptus6920I'm pretty sure one of the results of those tests was discovering radiation. Hindsight is 20/20.

[@deauthorsadeptus6920]

@@jpowens2253 America and pretty much everyone knew about radiation and radioactive material danger since 1850's.

[@jpowens2253]

@@deauthorsadeptus6920 that's strange considering it wasn't discovered to exist until 1899 and most of what we know about the effects on humans was in 1949.

[@Predator20357]

“I shall become Death, Destroyer of Red Chinese Communism”-McArthur before the US transplanted his mind into Liberty Prime

[@cryomaniac-tm5mg]

And then to frank horrigan

[@williamfrank962]

The idea that liberty prime personality is actually the digital identities of past war vets hatred of communism would be honestly be pretty kino.

[@Sigma_Male_Anti_Female]

​@@williamfrank962 Making prime even more based.

[@Michael_Hunt]

Dude that's head lore now lol

[@andyfriederichsen]

​@@williamfrank962 Kino?

[@ajoajoajoaj]

Macarthur: There was no military justification for the dropping of the bomb on Japan Also Macarthur:

[@BeaglzRok1]

I mean, Hiroshima was mostly a target because it was a city with geography conducive to the bomb's blast, and Nagasaki was only a target because 1. Truman didn't want to nuke Kyoto when it was such an important city to the Japanese, and 2. the original target of Kokura became overcast when it was time to fly out. Plus, the rest of the Axis capitulated, there's no allies to swoop in and bail them out. Korea connected directly to the mainland of the newly-Communist China and slightly further from the USSR. Minimizing reinforcing personnel is absolutely a priority, especially in hindsight where that exact thing happened because pushing to a border they could still cross fueled his zeal.

[@Dicka899]

MacArthur just really hates communists

[@THEBIGGAME683]

Well, arent those full of civilians compared to two million Chinese

[@Zionist654]

I mean they were communists

[@johnnotrealname8168]

Well yeah.

[@vornamenachname989]

Most peaceful American general be like

[@GA.1022]

Aren't you German? 🤨

[@Godzillafan78]

Ain’t this coming from a German

[@cameronspence4977]

Duh that's why he said it​@Godzillafan78

[@BroMaxIII]

"America bad, America did war", says every german redditor.

[@Dicka899]

I agree with you but you ARE German

[@pyromanic8]

He was too based to remain in command.

[@orange8420]

he had severe skill issue to use nuke imagine getting absolutely clapped by some infantry spammer and can't defeat them unless using nukes clearly lack of skills ratio Mcsucker

[@ManCheat2]

@@orange8420 China would inf spam, so mccarthur had to use gigachad tactics of dropping a sun on them.

[@zathary564]

​@@orange8420Bold of you to assume he was going to use the nukes on military targets

[@Limrasson]

@@zathary564 Now if we suspend memeing for a second, one could see a possible reasoning behind nukespam, effectively trying to minimize the use of conventional forces (and therefore incurring conventional losses) as a reason to glass the enemy if you can. But I have no fucking clue what actually went through MacArthur's head. Maybe he just saw "big bomb go brrrrr" and thought it's exactly the same as using any other type of weapon.

[@fsdds1488]

​​​@@Limrasson I really think, based on how MacArthur acted in the past, he would probably wanted to use nuke to escalate conflict so that he would took the personal glory as the supreme commander of the UN army when everything settled. I mean he was famous for attention seeking and alway tries to take away his subordinates achievements, people like Wendell Fertig doesn't even get a medal under him despite having significant personal contribution to the war, so it makes a lot of sense if he simply wanted to stir things up for his own sake.

[@Torquemada1521]

McArthur was cooking and they took the damn stove away

[@swedenballmaper2013]

Hell yeah brotha

[@TheGrace020]

😭😭😭

[@facuuu2809]

Oh yeah...he was about to cook the planet xD

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

They were afraid of them McNukems.

[@theeccentrictripper3863]

We're never gonna taste what he had in that pot, it was gonna be something special

[@TinyBearTim]

Least insane Cold War general

[@fabioartoscassone9305]

bullshit. if he was the least insane, Vietnam would glow in the asian night, on a radioactive sea's shore 😄😄😄

[@TheMightyShrimp]

Based pfp, loved that game 👍

[@Zionist654]

American*

[@ZackShark1]

Least insane general

[@cheekibreeki4638]

This but 100% genuine.

[@boutelbahoussem1012]

If this gamer moment happened , we'd have the ultimate fallout experience.

[@2stroke438]

Yes, fallout pre-war.

[@duitk]

The USSR didnt have enough nukes and delivery platforms to hurt the US much at that point, this was before ICBMs so sadly no fallout setting, unless you are in Europe and NK...

[@robertalaverdov8147]

@@duitk Yeah, but what would have happened later once the genie gets out of the box. May have tipped things over the edge during the 1962 Cuban missile crisis or 1973 Suez crisis and or maybe in 1983 during able archer.

[@duitk]

@@robertalaverdov8147 you are correct that it would have normalized the use of nuclear weapons, and later someone else may have pushed things over the edge.

[@colemurphy2063]

Man was really boutta create the Glowing Sea IRL

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

"Why you need that nuke for?" "It's a mystery tool that will help us later!"

[@theend-nz6vs]

Mickey mouse clubhouse reference

[@Beluga93737]

Oppenheimer: I'm a monster Truman: Lmao look at this coward McArthur: Let's level Peking to ashes Truman: Uhh maybe not

[@korggg123]

Truman, who called out crybaby to Oppenheimer, became a crybaby himself after facing a real man LOL

[@DabaksolGuardPost]

Manchurian Teacher : "This is the Great Second Yellow River, in the past it used to be called the Yalu River." Five-eyed Student : "Why they change the river name?" Manchurian Teacher : "Well, It's such horrible story actually."

[@stc2828]

You mean, green river? 😂

[@ALDA99999]

G L A S S M A N C H U

[@mokou2526]

WORT WORT WORT!

[@mhomer89]

"Sir, the massive amount of lives dead or traumatized, the catastrophic damage to the environment, the political fallout from such a feat, I think we should consider other options." "And I think someone else needs to be added to the 'retardation list'."

[@octaviocuesta1155]

Truman: "Don't push to the Chinese border." MacArthur: "Or what?" *A Chinese army two million strong pushes MacArthur back to the 38th parallel* Truman: "That."

[@potatortheomnipotentspud]

"Pulling a MacArthur" should refer to purposely disobeying a rule or order for the pursuit of personally glory from here on out.

[@dylanbacklund7655]

Two million Chinese soldiers are worth about 500,000 well fed Canadians/Americans that number means nothing from them.

[@binbows2258]

@@dylanbacklund7655 bro two million guns pointed at you is still 2 million guns pointed at you

[@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd]

classic chinese minor cohort to patrol a store corner for the sliced newport box

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

​@@binbows2258 Bro when 1.5 million of them jam or miss because of poor training, malnutrition, and the fact they are only there because the CCP is forcing them means they matter a lot less. We're talking about China not a competent military. They used pure numbers and nothing else.

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0:21 Terminator 2 footage

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

Also popularly used by the Bunker Dance meme

[@Yanespe]

Based movie

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@@Yanespethe basedinator is real

[@GarlicPudding]

MacArthur: "Nuke em." Truman: "No." MacArthur: "Nuke em!" Truman: "No!" MacArthur: "Aw, c'mooon!" Truman: "You're fired."

[@tiglishnobody8750]

Oversimplified

[@nickunknown7558]

Ah yes oversimplified.

[@carlsonraywithers3368]

Well...that's an oversimplification of the events...but yes. That's what happened

[@lucasfragoso7634]

"Ridgeway your up buddy fix his fuck up."

[@IPA300]

An oversimplification? In a meme/joke video?!?!?! Someone fetch me my fainting couch!

[@RolandEdrickSantos-jz7yp]

"I would have won the korean war in less than 10 days if it wern't for those medaling citizens publicaly criticizing me and truman relieving me of my FUCKING COMANDS" -MacArthure probably

[@Jugement]

"Sir this is a Wendys" 😂

[@cameronspence4977]

To be fair, meddling civilians (mostly presidents who have never served in the military) is what cost us Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, and now ukraine if congress doesnt get it together real fast

[@Arslan35]

​@@cameronspence4977 why are political comments unavoidable

[@Trollge398]

​@@cameronspence4977if the only congress allowed us to use nukes

[@AUsernameWeShallMarchToKiev]

@@Trollge398 if only the whining civilians let us nuke Moscow

[@nobleman9393]

We almost got Fallout: New Seoul.

[@SeymoreSparda]

Bro, this...and the alternate possibility of Japan be splitted into 2 by America and Russia by the end of WW2...Japanese and Korean game devs should at least try running with those ideas to create Fallout-esque franchises of their own! I mean, Demon Souls was ,apart from being a spiritual successor to King's Field, also From's own answer to Morrowind/Oblivion. Why not an Eastern answer to the Fallout franchise? Not like Bethesda gonna flesh out the theaters of war in the Eastern side of the world in that verse, anyway.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933]

Kenshi

[@cameronspence4977]

More like fallout New Pyongyang

[@HolyknightVader999]

Don't you mean real-world Starcraft?

[@nobleman9393]

@@HolyknightVader999 But all maps are Tarsonis.

[@unowno123]

average game of civ6 red death "we don't negotiate, we just press the button."

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

If Little Boy and Fat Man gave us anime and hentai, imagine what that irradiated belt would've given us. Maybe its better we never know.

[@altaccount7378]

Truman saved us from that reality

[@cattysplat]

Capitalist China would have been an economic monster.

[@CostantinoVercetti]

K-pop on steroids. I shudder at the though.

[@cameronspence4977]

K-pop infused Herointanyl

[@Mordecrox]

Probably the Ultraporn that Prof. Farnsworth was so eager to watch now that, at age 160, he was finally old enough to watch.

[@user-ol4dl9ks2o]

USSR, having Vladivostok (it's very close to North Korea and is also one of the largest ports in Siberia) completely unhabitable: >:(

[@decolon8754]

Metro Exodus moment

[@justarandompersonininterne6583]

they wouldve levelled entire southern part of korean peninsula in response so theres that

[@weirdguylol]

​@@justarandompersonininterne6583USSR didnt have nukes back then

[@justarandompersonininterne6583]

@@weirdguylol soviets had their first nuke in 1948.

[@weirdguylol]

@@justarandompersonininterne6583 mb then

[@meerkats9317]

You know how Belka nuked itself in Ace Combat to create a border? Someone in real life actually suggested doing it to another country

[@jordantagalog6803]

That’s what V2 is for

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

[@itzpatrick2450]

[@timetochronicle]

>Oppenheimer movie Truman to Oppenheimer: "Get that crybaby out of here" >Real life Truman to MacArthur: "Get that crybaby out of here"

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Actually he did call Oppenheimer a cry baby but not to his face

[@plmokm33]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 Pretty sure the term he used was a slur that the British use to refer to cigarettes.

[@Darkblender5]

Real life Truman called MacArthur, and I do quote, ' a dumb son of a bitch.'

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

@@plmokm33 really? Lmao

[@MyVanir]

@@plmokm33 You are allowed to say the word faggot, you are not calling someone that. Talking about a slur is not the same as using it at someone.

[@alexmelling5261]

The US: "damn, how do we win?" MacArthur: *proposal which would result in the apocalypse*

[@e.battraw3934]

No it would not. But it would have encouraged the use of nukes in warfare, which means your enemies using nukes and more enemies developing nukes. It’s a miracle how so few countries have it in this world

[@nobleman9393]

"Let the seas boil, let the stars fall"

[@beng2307]

Tactical nukes were proposed, if he said strategic like it's Nagasaki THEN it would be year zero 😅

[@RolandEdrickSantos-jz7yp]

@@nobleman9393 "THOUGH IT TAKES THE LAST DROP OF MY BLOOD"

[@pll3827]

@@e.battraw3934 Yeah, at the time, basically only the U.S. had nukes in any substantial number. The nuclear taboo has kept nukes proliferating since they don't really get used, but recent events is making that taboo more and more wobbly.

[@JungleLarry]

A point of clarification: the radiation belt would not have been created by the atomic weapons, it was intended to be created by physically spreading the cobalt across the area. The Korean War began prior to the US successfully developing its first thermonuclear weapon. The weapons dropped would have been used with similar effect as Hiroshima/Nagasaki: an air burst designed for maximum destruction, minimum fallout. Radioactivity would be mostly limited to the atmosphere and blown away within hours, with minimal residual radiation on the ground lasting maybe a couple of months. Instead, MacArthur's plan was to put radioactive material in the soil, which would have made the path uncrossable for a century.

[@multiversepatriot3148]

I wonder if in the Fallout universe MacArthur won by going forward with his plan...

[@SiPakRubah]

Probably the cause of the Great War

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

No

[@timetochronicle]

Fallout's timeline divulged from ours a bit later. The bigger changes came in the 70s iirc

[@xo-1320]

​@@timetochroniclethe point of divergence is in the late 40s as the transistor isn't invented though hints exist in the games the point of divergence is much older.

[@swedenballmaper2013]

I mean MacArthur would have won cause dumbsh!t Mao wouldn't have been sending troops through a waste land. Mao is pretty stupid but not that stupid

[@miguelpatino3856]

"The Communists can't take Korea if there's no Korea left."

[@wakemeup6318]

>Gets three divisions encircled because he wanted to do HOI4 victory point rushing >chimps out and threatens to nuke China >Fired by Truman for racist comments Douglas Macarthur was truly the first HOI4 player.

[@ssjjshawn]

If HOI4 existed back then MacArthur would have learned to speed run it

[@hieunguyenrileygekko]

MacArthur: you dont have to fight Korean War if there is WW3

[@patrickconnolly8616]

Pretty sure at the time the USSR had like 5 nukes so it actually wasn't as crazy since MAD wasn't a thing yet

[@kievbutcher]

The real problem with the plan is the precedent it would set, other nuclear powers would have less issue using nukes in combat, and it would likely prompt every country that could to develop a nuclear weapons program. It's a miracle that nuclear weapons have only been used on another nation once, it's also a miracle that so few countries have them.

[@thebanditman5663]

@@kievbutcher The precedent being, using them to demolish bridges instead of intentionally dropping them on civilians? Japan and the Chinese were two different enemies, and we wouldn't have used the nukes the same way.

[@yamalortiz5152]

@@kievbutcherNothing would have changed since the only thing preventing the casual use of nukes is that many nations have them.

[@thepowerofsand6180]

​@@thebanditman5663 the precedent being using them as a tactical weapon. Once we consider them as just another missile we get into the doomsday territory

[@vladstefan5216]

​@@thebanditman5663 You don't need nukes to demolish bridges. The nukes were specifically to irradiate the areas so that troops couldn't cross them. Given the high concentration of nukes in such a small area, the fallout would have been far more devastating than the blasts, especially with the sea nearby and highly populated cities like Vladivostock and Pyongyang nearby.

[@alexben7462]

MacArthur was unfathomablely BASED.

[@SwfanredLotr]

Meanwhile in Binkov's comment section: "We should've listened to McArthur"

[@Dicka899]

Least far right KZbin comment section

[@worlds3061]

Binkov's comment section is child's play compared to Telegram channels i've been to.

[@harshjain3122]

Lol, which video?

[@SwfanredLotr]

@@harshjain3122 The video was "When China almost got nuked".

[@justarandompersonininterne6583]

ah yes the section filled with edgy weirdos who think that they wouldnt get affected by nuclear war

[@zulkifligumilang3155]

"Once the genie outvof the bottle, there's no way to putting it back"

[@bluephoenix7565]

_I missed the part where that's my problem..._

[@ricardosenpai6121]

what being assigned to my country (Philippines) for years does to a mf be like

[@jamesmclemore9123]

I wonder how Oppenheimer reacted to hearing the guy who said "don't let that crybaby back into my office" after expressing his concerns about the bomb dismissing McArthur for wanting to use it again.

[@expocleaner4611]

Truman was such a damn hypocrite.

[@marseldagistani1989]

​@@expocleaner4611 Counterpoint Truman was an Artillery officer during WWI, and the Complaint Oppenheimer made was a personal slight to him, since Oppenheimer helped making the Nuke, and it was Truman that ultimately gave the go ahead. So who is more at fault the factory guy making the nuke? Or the man giving the order to use the nuke?

[@SuperCatacata]

Because Oppenheimer was a crybaby. He ultimately had 0 impact in the bomb being made. If he didn't lead the program to make it, somebody else would've. MacArthur was just another level of insanity though. There is a difference between using the bomb to end a war Japan started and destroying an entire country worth of land in someone else's war.

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

Truman: General, what are your plans to end the war? MacArthur: What makes me a good Demoman? If I were a bad Demoman, I wouldn't be sitting here discussing it with you now would I?

[@timesnewlogan2032]

“The best and worst things you hear about him are all true.”

[@drekbleh7081]

"We can't use such weapons on China" "They're at war with us! I don't see the big difference between them and the Japanese" "..." "Wait that's not what I-" "You're fired"

[@MyVanir]

I see what you did there. Because my eyes are open.

[@StanislavSasin]

Context please?

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

​@@StanislavSasinThe joke is that Chinese and Japanese people look the same.

[@champagnegascogne9755]

Oppenheimer contemplated in 1945 so MacArthur could play his toys

[@JiPrime]

Friendly reminder that there is at least one korean shaman who worships MacArthur as a deity.

[@dimsy8199]

Truman: "wait what do you need ?" MacArthur: *"Bombs, lots of Bombs"*

[@MionMikan]

Macarthur Wick

[@Jacky-zt5ch]

Sea of radioactive cobalt lets goooooo

[@idie6606]

"Why would you produce nuclear weapons if we ought not to use them?"

[@shakal_]

starting to think he was onto something

[@thetopcatgamer4946]

Ok to his credit this would have been the only time in history that nukes were used on a tactical target

[@jonharrison3114]

Imagine a history where the United States used it nuclear arsenal during the time it was the only country in the world with atomic power

[@erkkihelminen7580]

What about the soviets

[@skislope4218]

​@@erkkihelminen7580the US had a nuclear monopoly until 1951 and a clear advantage for a long while after

[@happyjohn354]

@@erkkihelminen7580 They only developed their first working nuke in 1949 by the time Korea rolled around they had less than 10. For comparison at the time US had 300 Mark 4 bombs.

[@AmericanCryptid1]

There is a alt-his book series by Harry Turtledove where he actually does this.

[@JaCKal_646f67]

" it worked once why not twice?" -some McRib general

[@sasin2715]

"Worked twice, why not 34 more times?"

[@ryszakowy]

in macarthur's defence they wanted to end the war QUICKLY

[@BedeGeneris]

macarthur could've prevented the cold war by starting the hot war first

[@kingd8155]

I'd prefer cold war. thank you.

[@theeccentrictripper3863]

#MacWasRight

[@chickenman8766]

Holy shit he used tanc a lelek (edit: that is the name of the song used in the nuclear war part)

[@dusan6566]

*THERMAL SIGNATURE DETECTED

[@chickenman8766]

@@dusan6566 ATTENTION; VISUAL CONTACT

[@thesaul9484]

*ATTENTION, VISUAL CONTACT

[@TheAirDestroyers-df2qk]

*FUEL 50%!

[@shreyangshumodak8923]

Mcarthur be wildin in his late years

[@Elsneakakaze]

Based beyond reason.

[@Comment3r555]

Bro was about to do the fastest speedrun

[@breezygamer1179]

Perfectly timed with all those Korean war movie shorts going around

[@thepilotman5378]

Well McArthur was trying to prevent a large ground war invasion from being needed as at the time Europe was seen as under threat more so than Korea. The issue was the defense of Europe was about maintaining world peace and sovereignty, while defense and revenge of south Korea was about military prestige

[@Captain_Rex14]

Tactical Nuke Spam

[@bcvetkov8534]

MacArthur went full gamer mode.

[@khoipham8303]

The correct use of Tanc a Lelek. Love it when I hear it.

[@kalixascsi66]

The use of Highfleet music was truly inspired.

[@Theredsunrising]

based, love rolling with him in Hoi4 Cold War

[@suloei9635]

Omfg this is pure genius

[@windmild]

least based american military general

[@chinook-pg7eb]

Song in MacArthur's part is tanc a lelek from the game highfleet

[@1creeperbomb]

This is kinda funny considering Truman blew off Oppenheimer for telling him not to mass produce nukes

[@derpnip]

In all seriousness, McArthur probably didn't know much or anything about radiation. He most likely thought a nuke was just a big ass bomb and knew rubble was hard to walk through.

[@zee_terminator2850]

You didnt see the part about the sea of radiation and cobalt

[@johnh.9230]

High fleet music is on point

[@Matt10670]

Reminds me of that alternate history "For All Time" where more atomic bombs were used in WWII so post-war military doctrine considered them a tactical weapon and nukes were used with disturbing frequency (plus a whole bunch of really terrible things).

[@user-pr2rr9sf8j]

The irony is, if the ‘plan’ actually materialized, the Chinese wouldn’t have been able to step in- leading to a UN victory instead of a 2 year long stalemate

[@Solon1581]

But it would set a precedent that would embolden the USSR and Communist China to be far less hesitant to use nukes in future inflicts. Think of what the Vietnam War or the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan would look like if nukes were being dropped left and right.

[@zathary564]

​@@Solon1581It would be funnier i think

[@SiPakRubah]

​@@Solon1581Fallout universe lore if it's based on IRL situation

[@kyleschneider6871]

A 2 year long stalemate? Man, when did they sign that treaty? Oh, they haven't yet?

[@munanchoinc]

This would encourage other nations to do the same. Imagine instead drone strikes, we have entire locations uninhabitable for 60 years. That shit is ALOT worse in the long run. We keep doing it until habitable locations get fewer and fewer until total nuclear annihilation.

[@bluephoenix7565]

Macarthur was a visionary.

[@guildmagetroy5153]

IIRC during that timeframe there was a lot of wild atomic testing because we didn't even know what atomic bombs did. We honestly thought they were just bigger conventional bombs that sometimes made you sick if you got too close. The belt of cobalt wasn't even intended, it's just an unintended consequence of using the bombs according to then accepted doctrine.

[@huhi2285]

I’m glad we successfully avoided nuclear war!

[@shaggyrumplenutz1610]

My grandfather flew a recon mission for this operation. He was in a small, quiet plane with a CIA man. Their task was to pick places to drop the bombs. Long story short he got shot down, survived the crash with the CIA operative and split up. He was caught and a POW for about five minutes. He basically went "WHAT'S THAT?!" pointing off into the diatance and while the troops were looking he bolted. Was bwhind enemy lines for over a months. When he got over to the South Korea line he weighed close to 95 lbs. He had medical conditions for be reat of his life, but died at the ripe old age of 90. His buddies were on a carrier anchored off the coast of Japan with specially modified jet (each holding one nuke). Most of his friends died a various cancers later due to the prolonged exposure to the radiation from the bombs. Papa's records had been sealed up until the late 90s amd he didn't speak of it before that time.

[@lkh-xj1ck]

Where did the CIA man go after the crash?

[@shaggyrumplenutz1610]

@@lkh-xj1ck I asked my dad the same thing. He apparently chose the right/shortest path to the border. My papa did not. My papa did say he was flying so close to the tree tops that he could see the smoke coming out of the barrel of the gin that shot them down. They had to move fast as soon as they crash landed since the North Koreans were going to be on them in less than five minutes. He also did recon missions into NK by jeep. They had numerous reports of very odd battle wounds on our men (missing arms and legs with clean edges on the stumps). He confirmed the NK had resorted to cannibalism. They went to a SK village where every man, woman and child had been killed. The US came in and dug a mass grave with heavy machinery to bury them in as they were very decomposed. Well apparently some dipstick didn't mark the boundary of the grave and my papa stepped on it when he was doing patrol. Sunk up to his neck in rotting human flesh and bone. I never understood how he was sane after hearing all that.

[@rustyshackleford1508]

​@@lkh-xj1ck Probably got hit by a car since he was glowing

[@cuber5003]

MacArthur being based as usual

[@wickeywaanzla3015]

WW2 took his patience. Korea kicked off, and he was like "this is getting old"

[@Xynnar]

Nice some Highfleet OST 😁😁

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

Macarthur was right

[@Zionist654]

Based

[@Greyspecies9999]

"34 atomic bombs to isolate NK" -my man, you'd be putting more than half othe koreans at risk of extinction- based and americapilled affff

[@timthetechpriest8876]

Surprised you didnt cover this yet

[@caseycarroll476]

Favorite historical moment.

[@Salty-Unggoy]

Least controversial history comment section.

[@mitriablue]

based MacArthur

[@quma2590]

Now we need a video on Curtis LeMay.

[@cacophonousantiquarian8803]

That music... I have heard it all too often.

[@johnh.9230]

Then you're already dead

[@BENKYism]

"Sea of irradiated cobalt" 💀

[@GreyKnight343]

As an American I am perpetually disappointed how Hollywood will never make a movie showing how the Chinese counterattack actually went down. Tens of thousands of frostbitten, half starving and badly equipped Reds marching through blistering cold only to get blasted apart by Ridgeways meatgrinder.

[@blitzstrk0]

China made a movie about Chosin, though it glorifies them obviously. In those two movies, they depict the US as well fed and happy gigachads and imply that the suffering made them stronger.

[@applesandgrapesfordinner4626]

​@blitzstrk0 Putin: So basically China is admitting that their logistics is crap? Sounds like some other Russian who had that idea.

[@lucasfragoso7634]

​@blitzstrk0 also they can't even make Ridgeway look bad. Like even Chinese propaganda has to admit Ridgeway was a gigachad

[@Gustav_Kuriga]

@GreyKnight343 He recaptured Seoul, but couldn't actually overrun the enemy or significantly damage it to the degree necessary. UN forces were still losing far more men than they could ever sustain against China. It was a meatgrinder for both sides. Why do you think the war fucking stopped? Also Ridgeway lost all those gains in the Spring Offensive. Furthermore, by this stage of the war the conflict was more similar to WW1 than WW2 in nature. It was a meatgrinder for both sides, as I said.

[@Huajierenmeiluziye]

​@@applesandgrapesfordinner4626The East had its own worldview, and the war gave the Chinese a complete endorsement of Mao zedong。

[@Justanotherpokespepfp]

Yeah MacArthur was batshit insane

[@CoIdHeat]

Id like to imagine a parallel world where Mc Arthur got his will. I wonder how that world would look like

[@kartiksaraf4676]

Just play fallout

[@sarubet8725]

Imagine not using nukes in a time when it was only you who had them

[@trevdestroyer8209]

Soviets had a couple

[@usul573]

We would have looked like jerks. The US was not attacked and the US had not declared war. Truman was worried Stalin was using Korea as a distraction to pull a stunt in Europe so he downplayed it as a "Police action" and was reminding everyone he had extra cards to play for more scenarios. In the eyes of many the DPRK and ROK fighting was like a civil war the US got involved in.

[@bellduke6417]

This has to be the most absurd case of winning the tactical victory and losing the strategic one. Thank you Truman for putting a foot down on this insanity.

[@zeriel9148]

How exactly? What would be the strategic loss there?

[@stc2828]

@@zeriel9148WW3?😅

[@zeriel9148]

@@stc2828 As noted, Russia didn't have the means to retaliate at the time. China was a total joke outside of its alliance with Soviet Russia. Admittedly the best move would have been to avoid nuclear war while NOT handing China economic dominance for no reason; but our ruling class were total retards, so that's a separate issue I guess.

[@cheekibreeki4638]

Truman was was fruitier than a smoothie

[@stc2828]

@thelamb1889 What is America’s plan after dropping the nukes? Full invasion of China? Or pretend nothing ever happened? The real world is not video game where you can start war, make peace, or improve relationships with one click.

[@khahinmetameta7826]

There's the Hot war novels by Harry Turtledove where truman did listen to him.. Well it was anything but glorious

[@basedsneedclave175]

Truman should have just let this man cook The earth

[@CaptainHieronymusValerianus]

Really should went with it in retrospect the USSR could only take it laying down during the 50s