How We Got Caught Up In A Giant Scam - The Wild Ones Podcast Ep.16 Special

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We're back this week with a special episode dedicated to one of our most unexpected and jaw-dropping videos - the time We Scammed A Scammer.
If you haven't seen it, you can watch it here: • We Scammed A Scammer
This week we take a deep dive into what went into making the video, address your conspiracy theories, reveal some new information about the scammer and finish up with some Overrated or Underrated and Listeners' Takeover.
Here's the full rundown:
00:00 How We Scammed A Scammer
05:17 'Being Impersonated Is Weird'
07:24 Police Update
08:33 Our Theories On The Scammer's Identity
12:10 A £1,5000,000 House?!
17:11 Your Theories: Chat GPT
21:57 Your Theories: Harry Mac Is The Scammer
23:45 Your Theories: SJ Is The Scammer
26:07 Your Theories: It Was All A Marketing Stunt
27:06 Sneaky Scammer Tactics
33:34 Making The Video
36:50 Creating The Phone Jacker Character
37:53 Prank Ideas We Didn't Do
41:19 Overrated or Underrated: Giant Bikes
46:48 Overrated or Underrated: Bike Racing
49:21 Tips For Travelling With Your Bike (Listeners’ Takeover)
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[@samtravis4822]

Love how Emily is becoming more public-facing in her role, adds a great voice and makes an already great format even better!

[@adamcollins9777]

​@@simonsepicwell aren't you just a glass half full

[@natorpen-palmer7192]

expand...@@simonsepic

[@simonsepic]

@@adamcollins9777 I'm just being blunt here mate I love these guys channel don't think they need the third. Typically podcasts have a host a guest and the person in the corner. They have 2 hosts the potential for a guest and then then little voice in the corner piping in every few minutes

[@2wheelsrbest327]

Totally agree definitely THE professional of the three with a bit of glamour thrown in 😊😊

[@ShawnIsBatman]

Now that you have revealed the absolute professionalism and delight of Emily, a new segment of the show must be "Chatting with Emily".

[@ShawnIsBatman]

It would be incredibly niche, but Elves should try and capitalize on this and actually produce the "Francis Cade Scam Bike" as a special edition.

[@BigBailBikesandBeer]

that would be ace!!

[@simonacker]

Same colour scheme as the balance bike!

[@aRlyWeakCyclist]

​@@simonackerno, same colors as specified by the scammer.

[@vegancreature838]

Because of Emily I watched a full podcast for the 1st time, she's a keeper

[@thecoffeeblog]

I love to see Emily, her presence is refreshing for a dude-only show.

[@SpicyTrifongo]

This is the best AI podcast I've ever watched. The animation is incredible they look just like real people.

[@morrisizing]

House in Essex - got to be Alex Dowsett. 😉

[@DJHibby]

I love the interaction between the 3 of you - the knowing smiles and glances, the laughs and being willing to mention scripting things and gaffes. I normally listen to the podcast, but watching this and seeing how much you enjoy the job is a delight!

[@d9dga]

Side note... love having more of Emily 👍

[@drijackson]

This podcast is really a tale of three people and like many people I love the interaction with Emily. You guys are an amazing team who obviously get on well together. It is more than that - it is the respect shown between all of you. Love it. Well done all, agree with those who say more of Emily.

[@lauraanstey8065]

Petition to make Emily a permanent part of the podcast!!

[@walkerbikes8]

Keep the Emily-cam! It is great to have more of her insight on the podcast and especially to give her a camera is super important! Love to see you guys continue to improve the podcast, its's absolutely inspiring.

[@BrotherMichigan]

You guys need to get a Giant TCR in to ride just to try it once. It really is a tremendous bike and one of the older generations is one of my favorite road frames ever after the mid 2010s Supersix Evo.

[@sempi8159]

Emily needs to stayyyy

[@thebigchip]

I’m not as surprised as a lot of others regarding how well Emily enhanced the video. Way back, in Earlier Francis Cade/Atticus days. Emily always came over well. My two penny worth. Also, the product placement of the Coke Zero must result in at least some free beverage. (KZbin version of the podcast)

[@fabioruolo]

The brand shipping bikes in a box with a TV on it is/was Van Moof! Also, great format with Emily in it - keep doing it!

[@rob-c.]

Kona did it as well - not sure who was first

[@malcontent_1]

Hey Emily -- thanks for classing up the joint. You're inclusion in the show is most welcome.

[@ChinCycling]

You guys have really nailed the podcast, putting Emily in is a game changer, great job guys

[@SethMarcell]

This is a well produced vid/podcast. Keep up the good work Emily!

[@aauden]

Essex...they're all at it over there... (I say this as someone who grew up in Essex)

[@markg454]

Emily is precious. I couldn't stop watching. You have found your secret sauce. More Emily please!

[@MyLouTube]

Enjoyed that!!! Rob & I miss you guys. Let’s catch up soon ❤❤❤

[@DC-lu5qs]

2:10 @emily not underwhelming at all! You look professional and sharp in your duty station!

[@just_alex3375]

Amazing, thanks for that hour :) I wish U good luck!

[@peterthomas8053]

Although it's a long one, it was so easy to watch because of the natural flow that it has.👍

[@bulletprufrodo]

44:49 way to keep them on track, Emily! Wonderful podcast!

[@phillipsalstrom175]

Fun episode as always, Emily was a wonderful addition!

[@bradallen8643]

Very entertaining and great to see the Emily contributing some gems in video scripto

[@DrAlafro]

My piece of advice regarding packing a bike. Go to your local hardware store, buy a plumbing/PVC/hard tube, cut it to the size of your fork and chainstay, pass through the axle or quick release. That way your bike won't compress and you will save a few money instead of buying the fancy "cycling specific" products

[@Cloxxki]

Parents will be so proud of their young little scammer, taking after his mom and pop!

[@Demand68]

‘What about LIV?’ ‘What about her?’ 😂😂😂 classic

[@hugobosswood9002]

By the looks of the title you should change the name to Cade media Scam catchers 😂 DCI Cade and DI Jimmy saving the KZbin world from scammers! Emily on camera makes watching the screen much prettier and easier on the eye 😊

[@tyneskipper]

for the guy doing the Japan ride - thoroughly recommend taking a look at Abroad in Japan. he did a couple of bike rides across Japan in the last year.

[@woodax]

45:16 is the best thing that happened today. xD Cheers Emily!

[@Jediknight620]

Loved the ending with Jimmy's little giggle 😆

[@paulmorrison30]

Excellent work 👏🏾✊🏾👌🏾

[@mikeparker1286]

Love the pod ❤

[@daevion5585]

It actually depends how ChatGPT receives commands and instructions, if the scammer actually was feeding the AI a ton of information like Francis is a British KZbinr, you feed the AI your height your accent your way of speaking. The scammer can actually make a very believable impersonation of you. IMO it's a very extensive thing to do, and also a lot of research to be done and fed to the Ai, ChatGPT does make some grammatical mistakes. As a person who uses ChatGPT too much, It's possible but not that worth the time and effort tbh, but yeah, it's still a possible thing to do.

[@biking261]

Completely agree with this, there is another cycling related channel that used ChatGPT to script the video and they showed the AI generated version and the version they did themselves, this is all possible.

[@TommySaucierPlourde0]

I LOVE IT !

[@coastalson]

The balaclava voiceover sounds like internationally beloved trainspotter Francis Bourgeois.

[@chrisrye13]

The other thing about Liv in the Giant conversation is that it's possibly a marketing benefit to help appeal to the female market, hence getting more women on bikes. Even if that's paint jobs that are statistically more appealing to women. Under-rated!

[@stuartyb65]

Spot on with the giant sizing they do a tcr in extra small but impossible to get a hold of in the UK 😢😢😢😢😢

[@Milian89]

From dusk till dawn is very complex story indeed :D

[@festerofest4374]

I can't believe I'm watching a cycling channel episode that has so much intrigue and drama going on -- real cloak and dagger stuff here! And, I wanted to watch it because the first episode got me hooked. This scammer (who, or WHAT they are) created some bike content I never expected I'd be into lol.

[@dave300m7]

As a newb bike-packer a video on bike transporting (from someone who has done it more than once) would be pretty handy. Most of the YT videos on the subject tend to be from the angle of “I flew with my bike and it didn't turn up” which isn't very helpful. Theres lots options, bikebox (expensive?) / cardboard box (is it safe enough?) / bike shipper (do they actually work?) but which makes sense for a one off trip to Spain (for example)?

[@RicQuintanilla]

FANTASTIC!!!! 👑 Regards.

[@bertchalmers]

That is an amazing lipstick shade Emily, is it a metallic?

[@brainblasta2]

I bought my Poseidon Bike online. I believe that’s the one that you’re referring to that comes in a box as though it was a TV.

[@Mclovinthedank]

Same here!

[@randomdude5938]

Ngl king regards may be the best email signature of all time.

[@DarynRod]

Poseidon sends theirs out with TV on the side. Still got that sucker in my garage. 😂😂😂

[@GeekonaBike]

I still say U should have got the Porch Pirate Catcher Dud involved. I feel like he would have been game & then u'd have gotten video gold of the unboxing.

[@Rob-qe9dd]

The moped gang has evolved!!!

[@SamRoystonPhoto]

Vonmoof had the TV box idea

[@Cloxxki]

My first Giant was a new 1988 or 1989 Track, MTB. I wanted to later become a Giant product manager, figure out all the parts and such. 20 years later, I heard from a friend that Gary Fisher (the man, not the company necessarily) wanted me as a product manager. I figured I didn't want to live in the US and didn't even remind of of that mention. Figured he was just being polite (or really, really honest) about his new friend's friend :)

[@Bob_Betty]

Emily! needs more airtime :)

[@TheBassallyear100]

the syntax of the whole emails seems like it has been span through a translator.

[@acassels24]

The three way conversation worked well

[@naryaorsi]

Great to see Emily more ^^

[@DaveCM]

When they brought up the broken bike, they may have used that as an out but then decided later to go through with the scam. That could be the reason for the delay between when they sent that email and the one after.

[@appelTaartish]

VanMoof did the TV cartboard box thing

[@iain.flatestwhite]

"Jimmy Hates Glitter" is my new favourite band out of North Dakota. 🤘🏻

[@Knitspin]

Outside of Chat GPT, Google's Bard has a load of information about Cade Media in part by way of Google owning KZbin and can write emails.

[@KeithCollyer]

"Giant should have a bigger range" I suspect unintentional, but very good

[@Ultegra10SPD]

Giant still keeping PF BBs alive. Even CDale caved... -U10

[@GordonMcMullan]

Currently have 4x bikes made (I believe) by Giant, 3 with a Giant badge on one with another brand, three of them are great, one of the Giant branded ones is sometimes great and sometimes just OK, the big problem I have with Giant branded bikes is they sometimes make poor choices when designing up to include the latest tech while designing down to a price.

[@DanielButler92]

FYI there are add-ons for chat GPT where you can make it watch vids/ read scripts then generate from there. You can also ask it to insert common or/and random spelling errors. I doubt that's how they've gone it but it's possible to train it or any localised trainer generator.

[@brianwinklhofer990]

Totally thought they were talking about H-Mack the freestyle rapper when talking about Harry Mack hahaha

[@hlheutte6554]

just wanna comment that i love this show.

[@TheCasualGamerYT]

Sounds like you need to try a Giant!

[@Pseudynom]

Giant is one of the few manufacturers that makes sports bikes with a relatively high weight capacity. E.g. the aluminum Revolt gravel bike has a max. load of 150 kg, which is great for heavier riders. Therefore I think they are underrated.

[@jameshassan8230]

That’s weird, I thought of Harry Mac when I watched the original video… surely not but he is a big dafty!

[@KP-tf6lf]

A hidden Apple tag in the frame would have been best to catch him? From “Scam to Scum”?

[@kungfupurpz]

@cademedia I recently purchased a poseidon gravel bike and it came in a box with a TV on it. the company said once they switched to boxes with a tv on it, their damage claims & returns decreased significantly

[@davienic]

When are the "King Regards" t-shirts coming out then?

[@MRPC5]

I associate I scammed a scammer content with purely entertainment channels, while I associate your channel with educational content. I'm not sure how much crossover there is.

[@texugooooo]

Nice beard, Jimmy!

[@johnmcnulty1129]

The face behind "the voice" certainly not "underwhelming" Emily. Next scammer gets a similar bike sized parcel, full of cauliflower stalks and rank savoy cabbage !

[@DC-lu5qs]

If this happens again, you need to try to team up with the guy that does the high end glitter bombs for some joint content. It would be an amazing collab.

[@Keule_from_Mars]

Mark Rober

[@DC-lu5qs]

@@Keule_from_Mars yes! I couldn't remember his name :) Don't you think Rober + Cade would be epic?

[@AshleyTowey]

The bike brand was VanMoof I’m pretty sure!

[@jrguk]

Yep. VanMoof (RIP) discovered that if they shipped bikes in a box suggesting they contained a TV then they were less likely to get damaged.

[@Onyxaxe]

Overinflated language is the skill. It's a catfishing method. The confusion is the goal. Throw you off balance, ton of fluff, prey agrees.

[@AshleyTowey]

Those giant aero brakes are trash 😂 had to replace them after a couple of winters

[@Tobias611]

10k comments for a bikebox video? Not even likes? Damn Francis, setting high goals for this one 😂

[@dandaniel9374]

Bike racing. Underrated. Everyone I know owns a bike, and rides it, at least every now and then. They "may" watch the TDF, but couldn't name more than three teams, if that many. The vast majority of people I know do not, and have never played American football, but they absolutely watch hours and hours of it a week... they don't own a football, but they do own an Officially Licensed Jersey($150-$350 each) of their favorite player on their favorite team. Patrick Mahomes is the highest paid NFL player at $45million a year. Team Ineos' entire team budget is $55million a year. NFL, College Football, High School Football and the children's leagues create CTE(Chronic traumatic encephalopathy).

[@DC-lu5qs]

52:32 DON'T FORGET TO BRING SPARE MECH HANGERS :)

[@dcv9460]

From the title - I thought you guys were scammed by "GIANT" the bike brand 😂😅😂

[@edclay4685]

AI can be directed to sites to ingest your photos and content about you and then ask it to write an email based on your style. And non public AI can do more. But much like Google search’s how good it works has to do with asking it in the right way.

[@sempi8159]

Exiting times :)

[@YorwerthHiraeth]

Thought Francis had gone all Mr. Beast and not recognised Taiwan as a country. Turns out they have a Chinese plant too

[@brunoguerra6085]

Nice...

[@samuelemmettbray]

Poseidon Bikes does the TV-Box thing.

[@WaechterDerNacht]

My guess: Jimmy just wanted a kids bike, paid forby Francis, so he sent it to his cousin named Francis, whose wife cousine is SJ... ^^

[@gunjja13]

This comes out when I asked chatgpt about cade media. "As of my last knowledge update in September 2021, I don't have specific information about "Cade Media." It's possible that there have been developments or changes since then. Can you provide more context or details about Cade Media?"

[@JogieGlenMait16]

I really thought it's a scam related to Giant, the bike brand. My bad.

[@Likelybiking]

You should make the carbon fiber vid again but chat gpt edition

[@stevenhowes530]

I like the fact that the scammer is probably watching this.

[@timtaylor9590]

how do you not like the tcr? even the propel is decent looking, all the bikes look the same anyway.

[@danielosman3134]

More Emily!

[@beavc]

The occupant of the house could be the buyer who is scammed to pay for the bike hence the final email.

[@PepsFTW]

Canyon charges for the box.

[@goonzjav]

Its Vanmoof that have a TV on the side of the box