HuffPost Discredits Its Own Arguments for Islam

Huffington Post tried to defend Islam, but discredited its own arguments instead. Muslims are peaceful in much of the world, but you're better off being honest instead of saying Islam is the religion of peace or having Muslim feminists argue for you when responding to Islamophobia. The Quran isn't totally peaceful, as evidenced by its followers. HuffPost uses arguments on the left that are just as bad as those on the right. They and Prager U are just two sides of the same coin.
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[@romulanspy4382]

I was a Muslim female (convert) for about 20 years and I can tell you that hijab (and even burqa) was *not* really a choice. The community pressure is immense.

[@imaginx806]

Romulan Spy Great you got out

[@ryananderson4614]

My anecdotal evidence would be my experience as a young man when a group went to a mosque and was told we could not even enter into the building if the women did not cover their heads and the men cover their shoulders if they had worn tank tops. The turning away of people from a house of worship according to their dress, even when no services are going on, seems to indicate the severity that that "one little passage " is taken.

[@romulanspy4382]

SpiritWolf2K To Islam and then from. Hey, everybody makes mistakes! :P Seriously, though, there are two kinds of muslims: converts (sometimes called "reverts" since muslims believe everyone is born muslim but some lose their way) and muslimeen or born and raised muslims.

[@romulanspy4382]

Alice Eliot Don't I know it. Talk about regret. We all make stupid mistakes when we're young but that one's a real doozy. *smh* If I could turn back time...

[@hasanbaidoun132]

Social pressure doesn't make something *not* a choice ...

[@SuperZez]

"Islam does not promote hate" It literally says like five dozen times that I'm going to be set on fire forever and I deserve it.

[@Ajoule01]

"Islam does not promote hate" inb4 LGBT community got oppressed in most of Islamic countries

[@mariamatedei]

Why aren't Catholics treated the same way -.-

[@kpllc4209]

@@mariamatedei Strangely Catholics church does not believe in hellfire, officially hell is being separated from God..I was shocked!

[@wendyleeconnelly2939]

@@kpllc4209 That is probably a modern evolution of the doctrine... I think it's very likely based on what I've read that the Catholics did used to believe in fires of hell and fires of purgatory. I'm not Catholic, nor ever was (despite the Irish last name) but i've read a lot and talked to lots of people and have picked up a bunch of little references here and there.

[@kpllc4209]

@@wendyleeconnelly2939 Yes it is a shift in belief, they are progressing very slowly but compared to some forms of Christianity they are very progressive.

[@putzthewondersloth]

I've been slowly reading through the Quran and so far the main themes seem to be two-fold: 1. Allah is all-merciful. 2. If you don't believe you will burn forever.

[@somethingnew12400]

Misperception huh If ur children don't obey u n keep doing evil deeds won't u punish them. We have a chance in this life to earn 4 the life hereafter.

[@putzthewondersloth]

@@somethingnew12400 If you punish your children for doing wrong, you should presumably do it to correct their actions. Hell, however, is the ultimate dead-end. It's eternal punishment with no hope of redemption and no interest in correction. It is simply inflicting pain for the purpose of inflicting pain. Inflicting pain for no good reason isn't merciful, it's cruel. Inflicting infinite pain for no good reason is infinite cruelty. I'm sorry, but if Allah is doing that, he isn't merciful, not in the slightest.

[@shakalalalalkh1098]

That's the Makiiin Quran The other half talks about " Gimme your money, go fight and die, and fuck all other Abrahamic religions"

[@mitab1]

@@shakalalalalkh1098 you're wrong

[@shakalalalalkh1098]

@@mitab1 اه انا غلطان، بالرغم اني حرفيا كنت امام جامع وكنت بختم بالقران بال١٠ مرات ف السنة بالتفسير؟ اه اكيد غلطان

[@holdensgnarly2446]

Whenever muslims say "You're taking it out of context", I always ask myself, how can a text be a timeless masterpiece from God if you have to read it in context? If you have to look at it from the time of Muhammad then its not timeless and obviously not from an all powerful creator of the universe...

[@fairlypresent7668]

than you so much I thought I've gone crazy..or as my parents say..I'm philosophing too much (as if its a bad thing somehow 😂)

[@jonadams8841]

In 1536 William Tyndale was burned at the stake in England for translating the Bible into English, where anyone (who could read, which was a small minority) could then read it. Why burned at the stake? Because now the average Joe could read and interpret the Bible without need of clergy. And since then, everyone gets to take it out of context. That's easy to do since it was cobbled together in an editors' meeting in 325, nearly 300 years after the death of the historical Jesus. The Koran is no better. There is no clarity in any of the documents: they are not like IKEA instructions, which the majority of people can use to assemble some pice of furniture. That's clarity of writing (or pictographs, more). Give any of these books to a thousand different people and there will be more than a thousand interpretations.

[@JohnDoe-vw4zf]

@@jonadams8841 yes and?

[@jeannedarc7533]

@@JohnDoe-vw4zf I think he was trying to reiterate the commenter's point.

[@fjebdbdjzndjd5026]

This comment feels soooweird, i’ve been thinking that without any opportunity to say it hahahaha finally 🎉

[@l.c.8475]

The 5th grade class I took care of in 10th grade had a brother and sister from a strict muslim household. The girl was actually repeating the year and her parents asked the school to put the siblings in the same class. Our school does an overnight trip at the beginning of 5th grade. The parents of these two decided to let the brother go but not the sister who hadn't gone the year before either. The teacher had to convinced them to let her come. This inequality continued throughout the year. So no, I don't believe Muslim values are inherently equalist.

[@meredithwilliams4671]

They are not equalist at all. Muslim men can marry four wives and can marry chaste Christian or Jewish women. Muslim women are limited to just one Muslim husband. Men's clothing modesty standards are only from navel to knee. Women's are from head to toe. And that's just the religion itself. In practice, Muslim men are allowed to run wild and have sex before getting married. Women have to stay virgin. Oh, and they think Western women are nothing but whores.

[@zaprese]

Sleeping with a non Muslim isn’t cheating either.

[@md.n.a.s.8851]

@@meredithwilliams4671 muslim men cannot have premarital sex .i dont know where do u get that ! they can have 4 wives and unlimited slaves . they can have sex and children with slaves but women cannot with their slave. islam literally says 1 man = 2 women , in court , in inheritence . even when a child is born if its male u have to sacrifice 2 animals and if it's a girl u have to sacrifice 1 . also male can immediately give divorce to female but female has to ask for a divorce and for specific reasons like husband is impotent . a female cannot travel without a guardian. women gotta have sex on-demand with the husband . in case of marital problem male can hit her , but the female HAS TO make peace or allah will be unhappy :)

[@isidoreaerys8745]

@@md.n.a.s.8851 sounds like a reification of the most base-selfish-possessive-coercive instincts of mankind. The elevation of Savagery as though it were truly morality. What a sick game

[@theperson431]

@@isidoreaerys8745 Yeah. It's sad how women have let such books survive.

[@mathnerd97]

"Nobody is acting violently in the name of Harry Potter" Are you sure? Some fans can get pretty passionate.

[@maxkrystal7403]

@follow petitelordexx who the fuck is saying don’t exist?

[@hiroklobus87]

Harry hu acbar

[@derontanzil6939]

@@hiroklobus87 ok I can't stop laughjng

[@TheNocturnalLogician]

I think you misspelled "toxic", my friend. There are no "pure" fandoms. There are always zealots. It is purely cognitive dissonance.

[@Viking_Luchador]

I want to post a thesis to Rowling's front door, Luther-style, explaining everything that was wrong with "The Cursed Child" and the "Fantastic Beasts" films

[@rouissiachraf]

I m from a muslim country, and one of the main ironies over here is that people will tell you that islam is a religion of peace, and at the same they will tell that beating people who eats outdoor during the month of fasting (ramadan) is the right thing to do. Also most of muslims can't understand most of what the quran say because it's written in an old arabic language that is hard to be understood (so even they tell you something about it, it's probably false). And finally, in western countries women who wear hijab say they do so beacause they want to "express themselves" but in muslim countries, you'll find that most of them do it because their brothers/husband push them to, or their hair look bad or to protect themselves from sexual harassement because the levels of sexual frustration here are much higher because of the imposed purity.

[@rouissiachraf]

I said they can't understand it, not read it, arabic language now have the same letters of the old one, it's the grammar and vocabulary that are hard to be understood, the old arabic has a richer vocabulary and more complex grammar than the one we use today.

[@aryasenaputra3226]

Truee

[@s-saad7401]

That's so true

[@t.d.2016]

Ex-Muslim Arab here. I attest that this is true. The Quran is very ambigious at times that its apologists have various and different interpretations of it. There's no objective meaning to it and no one understands it. So what do people do? They listen to the so-called experts, the Sheikhs and the fiqh scholars, and regurgitate their interpretations, which most of the time are outright barbaric.

[@davidrapalyea7727]

Islam has no tradition of open inquiry and relies on Imans to tell of the scriptures. The Koran is especially difficult for two reasons. First, it is written in archaic Arabic, second, it is generally considered largely incomprehensible even to those who are studied the the ancient language. Most Muslims do not concern themselves with these idiosyncrasies but enthusiasts try their best to get it exactly right. That has been the case since the very day the prophet died and civil war began that is going on to this very day.

[@AliCatDarling]

I got an ad for a Muslim dating site before this video and I can't stop laughing.

[@dayl0vebunny]

I got one for Understanding the Quran.... Quote: "If you are a sinner and have no want of faith, skip this ad now and spare me the waste of your time" These ads are effing horrid. I wanna just watch a video without feeling the need to report it as inappropriate or irrelevant lol

[@VoxelMusic]

Pick your woman, she's wearing a burkha so its a lucky draw. Remember, only beat her when she misbehaves because, as the Qur'an states: "Treat women well, as they are like cattle" Ill take 3 of your 7 wives Abdul. Oh, 3 of your wives dont want to be sold to me? Well seeing as "a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man's", and we both agree, thats worth more than your wives opinions, so ill take them now. One of them is 9 years old? Don't worry. Muhammad married a 9 year old so its perfectly fine.

[@khytron06]

@@VoxelMusic You sure do understand women.

[@argenti3324]

I got some cringy pureflix add

[@skyisherelol3492]

Doesn't the quran FORBID dating?

[@ScottMaday]

This is some Olympic level mental gymnastics these people are playing.

[@switzerlandful]

There should be a category in the Olympics for Islam apologists. It is truly amazing.

[@andrewolson5471]

These mental gymnastics are medal-worthy!

[@samanthekiridena]

Of course

[@AD-pp2vn]

@@switzerlandful And lot's of christian apologetics will attempt to outdo Muslims by justifying slavery.

[@AD-pp2vn]

@Matthayi Naalaaman Christian slavery is technically less worse than Islamic slavery as you cannot enslave a jew for more than seven years. Islamic slavery has no set time limit.

[@phil_alexdunphy4735]

quick update....India has decriminalized homosexuality

[@dawnnightinger3025]

Are there still laws related to homosexuality? If so what are they?

[@phil_alexdunphy4735]

@@dawnnightinger3025 gay marriage is still not legalised .........but the situation in India is like pre- gay wedding legalised america......legally there is no problem if you are LGBTQ........BUT you still cannot marry same sex partner......

[@dummydootsie6186]

Making progress slowly

[@Raj-dy2cn]

@@dummydootsie6186 There were protest from muslims and catholics.

[@dummydootsie6186]

Raj 007 oh well who cares

[@marcostation1000]

Im ex muslims and let me tell u hundred of muslims want to leave islam but they don't say for fear of being kill by the so call moderate loving muslims.

[@KingBullet123]

Religon is systematically protected

[@KingBullet123]

@Jacob Votava tricky job moderating something like religon unfortunately

[@icemachine79]

​@Jacob Votava How do you know it's a lie? What a presumptuous thing to say, especially considering that people HAVE been killed for apostasy in Islamic countries.

[@budd2nd]

icemachine79 - not just killed in Muslim countries, it happens here in Europe too. Maybe not as often but it does.

[@ayahisthename7498]

icemachine79 we know it’s a lie because it’s against the religion to do such things, people who commit such actions aren’t true Muslims, they like to Twist everything to what they like. It’s their culture not the religion itself. We aren’t saying what she/he said isn’t true, but that’s not what the religion itself preaches.

[@zarlei6048]

Does “slay the unbelievers wherever you find them” require any context?

[@aliylukmansyahnasution7994]

@Matthayi Naalaaman humiliating and discriminative tax payment still sound inhumane. moron.

[@the_polish_prince8966]

@Matthayi Naalaaman Yeah, I'm a Polytheist so this isn't helping Islam's case for me

[@RemixedVoice]

Here's some fun murdering non-believer quotes from the Bible too lol :D "But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me" "And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman"

[@fairy2406]

RemixedVoice yeah Christianity is just as bad as Islam

[@syamkrishnan7349]

@@RemixedVoice Christianity is done with its violence. It out genocided and outwarred itself to the point of exhaustion. All these doctrines are outdated and medeival and they cannot exist in the global village of the 21st century where all cultures and religions have to find common ground. Islam is not willing to find common ground. They still use the word Kaffir for a non believer, protest for Sharia law in secular countries and a significant number of them support the extremists passively and actively. Islam needs to take itself less seriously.

[@teddayer6523]

I am originally from Iran. I left in 1975. Me and my family are atheists (never been muslims). Islam for us is a plague and it’s the most ridiculous way of giving life advices. You are right on everything you say. And the way the host of Huffington post brings things does not reflect the reality. You are logical, intelligent and you analyse things objectively. Thank you very much for you channel. I am an experienced MD in Switzerland but not a bit ashamed saying that i learn a lot from you.

[@influenzaz1012]

Wow, idk why but im intrigued with your story although vague, a true humble person is always learning, hope to be as educated as you one day

[@kdandsheela]

An Iranian Swiss with an MD, can I read your biography?

[@skylight4137]

Same here

[@kdandsheela]

@Morthal guard no, because it sound like a cool story!

[@CrittingOut]

It is indeed a plague.

[@rjlundholm89]

well Sharia Law is also unconstitutional. you know the whole separate church and state thing.

[@jsin3127]

You aren't wrong, but attempts to push purely religious beliefs without considering the full effect of implementing such a law within the US is not limited to "Sharia". And that is why it is important for us to have difficult conversations about difficult topics. It is important for those in the discussion to recognize their personal viewpoint (unwavering belief/thought), then here the unwavering belief/thought of the other person in the discussion, and then these two or more angles must come together and be willing to restrict their own belief (where they feel it still doesn't fully contradict their personal view) to the point where compromise can be made

[@bsqwahlE]

The Southern States of America put their Bible before the U.S. Constitution. Pence describes himself as 'Christian, conservative and Republican in that order. Christianity is already affecting U.S. legislatures everywhere. Defeat that.

[@bayardkyyako7427]

@@jsin3127 Well that's not a difficult topic or discussion, if someone wants to mix religion and state you slap it down, hard.

[@lagunax5645]

Fun fact: You'll traditionally see a lot of positive press talking about foreign allies who are "moderate muslims" (Obama liked this term a lot, if I recall), but its important to understand that "Moderate" is a relative concept in this context. Given that a majority of muslims will say that homosexuality should be banned (with about a third saying that gays should be executed), a "Moderate" muslim would still, by western standards, fall under the catagory of a "religious fundamentalist" in the same way certain christian sects do. The guy who made the HuffPo video would be part of a tiny minority of "Liberal Muslims".

[@lagunax5645]

Just want to add after finishing the video: I understand the call to not make generalizations about muslims out of a desire for logical nuance, but in order to process the same data in a POLITICAL context, generalization is not just useful, but 100% required. To wit, the idea of whether large numbers of muslim refugees and immigrants should be permitted to enter western countries. The importance of getting a generalized feel for the culture and dispositions of a population that wants to join your body of citizenship cannot be overstated, and in practical terms, a 30-50% rate of people with values contrary to liberal democracy (with 10% or even 5% willing to act on those beliefs violently) is unacceptable.

[@Pengalen]

More likely he is just exercising taqqiya and straight up lying.

[@bastetowl3258]

yeah muslims like him only exist in the west tbh

[@khaledassaf6356]

Ex muslim here. Just recently found your channel, just dropping by to say I enjoy your content, and the level headed views. Cheers.

[@pansepot1490]

chrisl0081234, I am not a Muslim but by following international news I'd say that you are largely correct. I would just add a mention for Turkey. They used to be a strongly secular country where religion was not more relevant than in Europe and it's sad to see the present government going down the road of authoritarian theocracy.

[@josef4188]

chrisl0081234 North african ex-muslim here. While I don't know how things are in Southeast Asia, I agree that North Africans are generally less extreme when it comes to religion than the Middle East (from what I see of the Middle East anyway) and I would even wager that the influence western colonization had on North African countries (including the one I live in) has something to do with it.

[@khaledassaf6356]

chrisl0081234 Hey! I'm from Israel, born and raised. Ethnicity is mixed White (Greek and British) and "Arab" (as in Levant Arab, not ethnic like the Saudis). Although I grew up in pretty religious household, but none in my family was ever extreme, despite some being quite religious. I speak Arabic, Hebrew, English (obviously), and some Greek, although I have forgotten most of it. I would say your analasys is spot on. Although, I have heard some disturbing stories from Malasia and Indonesia, mostly related to LGBT. Persians were always chill I think, and Turks used to be too, but seem to have Islamic fundamentalism gaining traction fast there, although there is still pushback, so there is still hope. North Africa, with the exception of Egypt, is mostly chill, and good hearted people.

[@bahadrozturk2086]

Pat Pezzi I am from Turkey but we are not a islamic dictatorship we are a dictatorship but not a islamic one a conservetive one and people are still mostly secular. People like Erdoğan because of the economic growth and his strongman approach. But I would agree that we are screwing up ourselves because Erdoğan has become a dictator and the guy is out of his mind and he is also leaning towards religion seriously

[@ziadouf9794]

Khaled Assaf stay safe

[@StefanReich]

7:46 "Hijab is an outside expression of an inward experience." So your inward experience is that of a prison.

[@somethingnew12400]

Hijab differentiate the Muslim women from the rest n gives them separate identity. Every one wants/desire to b differentiated n to have n enjoy the separate identity in the society. For Muslim women this is the gift from Allah. 😌 Don't get jealous of us.😛

[@StefanReich]

@@somethingnew12400 I see women naked on a regular basis. Surely I'm jealous of seeing women in a hijab instead.

[@peimanrazavi705]

@@somethingnew12400 Hijab also forces all the women inside Islam to dress and act and talk alike and within a very narrow and illogical guidelines that will essentially make them much more identical to each other than differentiate them from other women who have the right to dress as they want so your point isn't really acceptable

[@bulbul704]

@@somethingnew12400 You're basically advocating that Muslim women are special as compared to non Muslim women. That's bigoted too. Backfire.

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

@@somethingnew12400 yeah, girl! I was sooooo jealous the other night of the lady standing guard at my local Walmart with a fucking orange/red burqa and black niqab with only her hands and eyes visible! “Allah” gives terrible gifts, and the gifts are worse for infidels.

[@theocean1973]

"Are you ready T O G E T D E M O N I T I Z E D?" LOL

[@switzerlandful]

Yup, KZbin doesn't really have any shame about doing that anymore. They'll go after anyone... even if you haven't really broke any of their rules.

[@SunRabbit]

"Demonetised" and "demonised" have a very similar spelling.

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

Edit: Monetized after review! Lost some revenue but not all. 👌 What are the worst arguments for and against Islam on both the right and left? Did HuffPost hit all the ones on the left?

[@discomutt1503]

#NotAll is basically ignoring Islam's special relationship with terrorism.

[@amy7189]

Genetically Modified Skeptic Ah, KZbin. Demonetising content which should be given the centre stage, bravo -_-' Anyhoo, I don't have an answer to your above question, but I DO want to say that I liked your comment, that we should judge Muslims based on their character. If everyone judged people based on their individual behaviour towards others, rather than stigmatising or idealising them due to their status/faith, I think humanity would take a large step towards becoming a more socially healthy species. (Bitch =p)

[@discomutt1503]

Would changing the title a bit help the monetization?

[@theMPrints]

DEMONIZED?

[@mirsad96]

"The left". You USAmericans have no fucking idea what that means. Your supposed left is right wing corporatism. You know, the absolute and complete opposite of Socialism. That is what you call the left.

[@iKrivetko]

The idea that institutionalised medieval superstitions are "complex" and require "deep understanding" is pretty obnoxious if you ask me.

[@bayardkyyako7427]

The only institutionalised medieval things I want are the ability to open carry swords again, it's far more moral than religion, and a good self defense measure.

[@wngdhssr]

@@bayardkyyako7427 en garde !

[@randominternetguy3537]

@@bayardkyyako7427 guns are much more effective. They're the equivalent of medieval swords in the modern era.

[@bayardkyyako7427]

@@randominternetguy3537 Depends what your up against, animals bigger than you require heavier guns which require more ammo on top of other things, humans can also survive quite a few bullets before going down, everyone who claims to own a gun always touts how "all you gotta do is shoot their leg or head" but if you were in a situation where you were in fear of your life against a human who ambushed you then no amount of big dick will save you

[@randominternetguy3537]

@@bayardkyyako7427 yea, you shoot at center of body mass. They dont have to die, they just have to stop. People can usually survive bullets in the chest or stomach, but they hurt like hell.

[@dnw8720]

What muslims believe is not the issue, it's what they do that matters. Actions will always speak louder than words.

[@yoursonisold8743]

Beliefs inform actions however, so the beliefs are the cause, if not at the very least the catalyst.

[@cjalisyas]

GOOD PEOPLE DO GOOD THINGS. BAD PEOPLE DO BAD THINGS. BUT RELIGION CAN MAKE GOOD PEOPLE DO BAD THINGS. ADULTS WHO BELIEVE IN IMAGINARY BEINGS ARE STUPID.

[@somethingnew12400]

Don't look at muslims. There may b some of them using Islam for their own interest .Read Islam, the holy book Qur'an and about the prophet Muhammad SA u will find best lesson of life n will find Islam the best religion of world. It depends on us that how much we obey .

[@cjalisyas]

@@somethingnew12400 Yes very trye. 9:29 "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled." 9:28 "O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise." Context kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYKvh2uMZ61jprs

[@cjalisyas]

@@somethingnew12400 Islam. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn2oZIR3h898kMk

[@HandsomeMoose]

"Always taken out of context". Classic comment. In what context does for example "Slay the unbelivers wherever you find them" make sense?

[@maxmustermann6298]

the context ist that the perfect human (mohammed) was a warlord and that the koran promotes war. besides that this specific part is 3 or 4 sentences long and the stuff right before and after it doesn't build any context whatsoever. its like opening the rulebook of the nba and arguing that its taken out of context that you must use your hands to move the ball.

[@ReiChobitsu]

In time of war?

[@Sick_Pencil]

You don't get it. "Slay" means "Love" in Quran's context. You're just too ignorant to grasp!!

[@arriasinsanite4886]

@@ReiChobitsu i'm pretty happy it doesn't happen in real war it basically mean that if a country win over another they have to litterally KILL everybody i mean a war when you have to kill everybody who don't agree with you (including childs) isn't fair in every case it look too much like the darkest times of history

[@ReiChobitsu]

@@arriasinsanite4886 well that is what the israel doing to palestine now.

[@user-bo1fg6tw5e]

I hate the argument that because these countries have had female leaders and the US hasn't, they're somehow pillars of gender equality and can't be criticized. There's so much more going on than that! What percentage of legeslature and other government bodies are women? What about in the private sector, how many company leaders are women? Is there high quality medical support for women? Can girls go to school with the expectation of safety, and are they taught and treated the same as their male counterparts? What laws are in place to protect women and are they enforced? Saying "they have a female prime minister so there's no sexism in that country" is the same bullshit argument of "the US had a black president so there's no racism in America." Both obviously ignore the bigger picture.

[@brazenbull36]

I'm form Bangladesh. We've had female prime ministers since the 90s. They, like all other feamle muslim head of state are just puppets of their parties. Didn't achieve anything that women wouldn't have gotten with a male prime minister. Still in Muslim family law women get 1/2 the inheritance of men.

[@imstandingrightbehindyou.6987]

Hurley D I'm from Pakistan so i do hear about your country's politics from time to time and i have to say the female prime ministers did nothing much for the women or did much in general.I cannot criticize your country while my country is in more deep water due to elections,If Imran wins then i think Islamism will rise and there is a good chance of his winning,it's just sad that there are no worthy politicians to vote for in either mine or your country.

[@thomascarroll9556]

Hurley D yes, regardless of having a female PM it’s the men in power in the religion that govern. The inheritance thing is a bit of a red herring as many western societies have or had law of primogeniture, the law in the UK has only just been altered so a female heir to the throne does not get relegated behind a younger brother, we should have just got rid of the whole monarchy.

[@Pow3llMorgan]

Maybe the fault is comparing 'the muslim world' to the US as a pinnacle of western values, especially gender equality. I mean, the US isn't all that great in that regard. Just the UK, for instance, has had way more female heads of state, heads of government and members of government.

[@jonathanstern5537]

L 013 it’s like people in the US saying that we are past racism because Obama.

[@kit.k]

About the hijab being "a choice" always felt like a lie for me growing up. Bc i grew up with ppl saying its okay to not wear the hijab but once u reach a certain age (for me it was 13) they expect u to already wear it and when u don't the shame i got from not only my peers and family but also society and even teachers were just making me feel more uncomfortable about wearing the hijab. For example: I failed my maths class once and my teacher called me and asked me basic questions like do i frel motivated to study and stuff but then she asked "do u not wear the hijab?" at the time, i said "i dont feel ready to wear it but my parents force me to" and she just looked at me up and down seemingly judging me. The next day she even told all the girls in my ckass to wear the hijab and "dont loose ur crown" and she looked at me again like she was referring to me. Another one was my parents, they never were that religious but once i started going through puberty they basically forced me to wear the hijab. One day when i was 15 we were about to go out eating and i didny put on my hijab. My dad stopped what he was doing and told me to wear it. I told him time and time again that i dont feek ready to wear tge hijab but then he said "this isnt about whether ur ready or not, this is about u being a muslim girl." and it didnt really surprise me bc i was also taught that if a daughter does not wear her hijab once she is old enough (maybe untik she died i dint quite remember) then her father has failed and will go to hell. I thankfully found friend that are muslims and understand my emotions and treat me normally without shaming but trust me when i say they are VERY rare.

[@srinivasvedang4001]

I hope you are finally able to get rid of it now.

[@lilevola4885]

I have a Muslim step-grandfather and he is a really nice guy but he dosnt talk about Islam a lot but luckily he dosnt enforce anything on anyone but he still prays for me and that makes me happy to have him as a step-grandfather.

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

Good, I’m glad to hear that! There are plenty of Muslims like that so it’s just unfair to make generalizations.

[@lilevola4885]

Yeah...... Also hi GMS!

[@PicardSisko7]

Great video! I'll never understand why people are afraid to criticize Islam.

[@nomore9004]

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[@tm863]

Peter Banner because criticising Islam gets you a fatwa for your death.

[@maggiemoran7747]

Charlie Hebdo should've made you understand a little better.

[@davidrapalyea7727]

Very Fake News CNN re: progressives. Progressives are hell bent for Roger Mapelthorp and are dusgusted by Norman Rockwell. Further, they have coagulated themseves into a small collection of maritime States separated by 3,000 miles. They fogot altogether the Great Lakes region was even populated, let alone with enough voters to sink Hillary three ways to Sunday. Three of those Great Lakes Sates voted Obama. TWICE? But progressives say out loud it was retriactive racism agains Obama. The dopes.

[@PicardSisko7]

sfar1 lol that's cute

[@anthonybeard3238]

Choice without options is meaningless. I also had to stuff in my church when I was young. “Do what we want or don’t and face the consequences. You totally have a choice!”

[@directrepublik9489]

Yes, but those choices can be very difficult for some people, especially when family and loved ones are involved.

[@TeodorSobczak]

I do like your balanced viewpoint. And Your closing was very thoughtful, respectful and full of dignity for another human being. Keep it up.

[@Soho_Minos]

AIGHT POTTERHEADS LETS GO USE SOME FORBIDDEN SPELLS ON THESE UNBELIEVERS

[@tophatoctopus1997]

AVADA KADABRA! *gunshots*

[@geoffdavids7647]

This video is fantastically well balanced, nuanced and well researched. Amazing, I love how rock-solid and unbiased your arguments are. Huge respect, subscribed.

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

Awesome, thank you so much!

[@hermittmog8697]

Many of the people "following the book" can't actually read. They are following leaders.

[@seanb3516]

I refuse to discriminate. I despise and oppose all religions equally.

[@VladLad]

Sean Nanoman i hate everyone equally.

[@krillin6]

Sean Nanoman Thanks

[@theMPrints]

hateing everyone equally is somewhat unefficient

[@giovalladares1022]

Sardonicus show me where Christianity promotes its followers to violence. I’ll wait. You’ll probably come back using the Hebrew Scriptures while Christians are not bound by mosaic law at all. And for the record Mosaic law was made to go with the social structure of its day. Christianity not once makes any calls for violence. Obviously violent acts have been done in the name of Christians but that has not been widespread for a long time and never can any violence be condoned by Christian beliefs taken from the Bible.

[@milomilo55]

Gio Valladares You realize that this "Christians only follow the NT" and the OT has nothing to do with Christianity....though we still believe in the same god, Adam and Eve, talking snakes, the flood, Lot's wife turning into a pillar of salt and everything else in the OT that doesn't make us look bad, is relatively new cope-out that wasn't being used by the parents and grandparents of current christians, right? The primary differences between the violence associated with both religions is the timing of the violent periods. Most of the violence that occurred in the name of Christianity occurred a few hundred years ago, though Christian based violence is currently happening in some countries, e.g. Central African Republic, Nigeria, Sierra Leone etc., while Islamic violence tends to be more current in general.

[@gaunterodimm3569]

As an ex muslim (thanks to people like cosmic skeptic, Rationality Rules and you) that unfortunately still lives in IR.iran I truly appreciate you bringing up the problems us and specially women over here have to go through! 8:30 for example. And your absolutely right that what she said can and is used to refute the more moderate understanding of verses related to hijab...

[@mrskipper7180]

This might be your best intro to date.

[@xbit2011]

One of the most underrated channels! Thank you for your work, it's highly appreciated!

[@etooamill9528]

I love how he say " even atheist" as they are a mithycal creture

[@filiperosa7496]

In many Muslim countries they are

[@ladyvader3173]

Demonetization, huh?...that reminds me. You absolutely deserve my Patreon money, good Sir!

[@slawero]

I love when Muslims mention peace and Islam in one sentence. The thing is that many Muslims tend to understand the word 'peaceful' slightly different than the Westerners. When you ask a Muslim "Is Islam peaceful?" Everyone says YES. When you ask a Muslim "Can suicide-bombings and other forms of violence against civilian targets be justified to defend Islam against its enemies?", you'll be suprised how often peaceful Muslims answer YES to this question, too. In 2013 Pew Research carried our a survey and asked this question to Muslims in 11 countries. The percentage of those who answered YES (violence is often justified, sometimes justified and rarely justified) is as follows: Pakistan - YES - 7% Indonesia - YES - 18% Nigeria - YES - 15% Jordan - YES - 44% Tunisia - YES -18% Turkey - YES - 33% Senegal - YES - 32% Egypt - YES - 59% Malaysia - YES - 39% Lebanon - YES- 58% Palestine - YES - 74% When you multiply these percentages by the number of Muslim population in these countries you will get around 170 mln Muslims who believe that in certain situations violence against civilian targets is justified. It's as far from the peace as it can be according to Western standards. 170 mln people in only 11 countries is something that at least should cause concerns about the concept of peaceful Islam.

[@TC-by3il]

The only caveat to that is the framing of the question. Look at the this way, do a large part of the citizens of western europe or the US not support the fight against terror, and the attacks and bombings on targets that will ultimately lead to civilian casualties?

[@slawero]

TheEsotericZebra Of course there are other factors. Also, when you want to generalize based on this data you can say that Islam teaches peace because the majority of Muslims answered 'No' to this question. My point though is that a large portion of Muslim population justifies violence in the religious context. The number I gave and the idea of Islam being a religion of peace causes a cognitive dissonance in me.

[@Mr.NiceUK]

Lumping together "often" and "rarely" justified makes those numbers pretty meaningless, just do a table by the multiple choice answers for nuance and meaning.

[@slawero]

MrNice google it lazy ass :P My point was that the violence is never justified in a religious context if you consider yourself a peaceful follower of a religion.

[@ListlessLion]

Not exactly the same but this reminds me of the opening of a presentation my sister did. She asked people to raise their hands if they thought murder was wrong and then told them to keep their hands up if they support the military. People don't think murder is wrong, they think it is necessary sometimes.

[@yomomma912]

All heil the great Voldemort and his only messiah Lucious Malfoy

[@saschamayer4050]

His Noselessness will be accommodated by your comment and reward you in abundance! PS: only true prophet is Snape, though. 😇

[@greekgodessnameoftheweek3967]

MAY HE RETURN TO KILL THE FIEND THAT INFECTS OUR MIND THAT IS HARRY JAMES POTTER AND FREE US FROM HIS INTOXICATION also I think the missaiah is barty Jr.

[@shadowmoses5422]

Yo GMS (Genetically Modified Skeptic) stop being such a rascit towards Muslims. *whispers* they are brown people. so you can not talk about them in a negative way jk :D Ex muslim here, much love from Sudan

[@surmountwho2861]

Shadow Moses congrats on your apostasy.

[@colindickson8034]

When did islam become a race? Its a religion.

[@Tyrian3k]

"Sharia is often translated as law." Well, all those hundreds of millions of muslims who want to be *governed* by it certainly do agree with that, don't they? And nothing is "out of context" if people actually believe in it and follow it. Period.

[@NipponAsahi]

The politicans use only sharia words only for make the sentence get shorter. What they mean is actually Sharia Law.

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

@@NipponAsahi are you saying that what they mean is “law law”? People who know what Sharia is don’t need to hear “Sharia law” because that would just be “law law.”

[@mrnik.0]

I have muslim friend's and they confirmed that one interpretation of Jihad, that is mostly used in the sense of the word, means divine war so that's that...

[@justanotherintrovert1012]

sorry for the demonetization! A Christian channel could post a video trying to force people into their religion with the most violent manners and get monetized, yet an aethiest channel could just debunk Christians or muslims and get demonitized

[@MsPoliteRants]

One thing though: there are not "millions of Arab people" practicing Zoroastrianism. Zoroastrianism was virtually wiped out thanks to the invasion of Muslims who conquered Persia. There are only about 190,000 Zoroastrians today. Unless he was including all of the religions together into "millions". Either way though, Islam is the reason Zoroastrianism is almost extinct.

[@MsPoliteRants]

chrisl0081234 that's great for Iran. There are 4 other Islam theocracies in the region. heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/demographics/ "It has been reported anecdotally, that there are a number of closet Zoroastrians in the Aryan home countries (Iran, Afghanistan, Northern Iraq, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and neighbouring lands) who are outwardly Muslim but who are secretly Zoroastrian. This is for reasons of persecution and a denial of opportunity to non-Muslims, especially Zoroastrians. We are unable to confirm this phenomenon." Anecdotes aren't scientific evidence, but since I take seriously anecdotal stories from the LGBT individuals from theocracies, I will take other minorities' stories as well.

[@muslimproudtobe]

Christanity literally wiped out paganism in europe and south america and only now have these few movements have been getting popular and zoroastrianism was the majority religion in persia after the muslim conquest for a long time but in the 11 century islam took the place of the majority religion in that region.

[@muslimproudtobe]

What I was trying to say things change if one nation was something else once it doesn't mean that it will always remain like that and the celtic cross is more cultural then religious as the middle eastern christians would not know what your on about if you mention it as part of christianity.

[@muslimproudtobe]

The cross in general is holy to christians as it repersents the way jesus died according to christians and did you get what I was trying to say before.

[@muslimproudtobe]

Chris your right about the "people like to simplify" bit

[@MikomiJadeSkywalker]

Thank you so much for this one. I accidentally changes the "going to church" and "wearing the hijab" to "speaking Russian in Ukraine during the Soviets" and what was my personal experience and realized that this explains best how I had no choice. People spoke Ukrainian only at home when I was a child. It was not forbidden to speak my native language but if someone did they were considered as lower level of society. I grew up being laughed at when I spoke my native language. Even until recently some people from my surrounding told me to speak human (means russian) language when I spoke Ukrainian.

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

I'd love to see someone apply the same logic as these people to Mein kamf, i mean the stuff against Jews is just a relatively small section of it so by the logic of these people it doesn't teach anti-semetism even tho most nazis are supposedly antisemites, calling Islam all good even though there's violent verses and violent followers is pretty much the same argument as people saying National socialism is all good even though mein kamf has some stuff against Jews, I do not support Nazi ideology in the slightest but I would love to see a satire video like this to prove how ludicrous the arguments these people make are.

[@MGTV1]

3:11 is he admitting the quran is a best selliing fictional book meant for juveniles?

[@bluewhale-thecoolestguyone6518]

I'm an Ex Muslim from North Africa

[@jujudog7363]

Me to

[@somethingnew12400]

Shame on you. 🖐🖐🖐🖐 N also sorry 4 ur loss. Feeling pity 4 u.😐

[@rawanahmed7302]

I'm very happy for you too

[@esotericsheep8311]

Same, i hate it here :^)

[@Vhlathanosh]

@@somethingnew12400 why? Did the person say they're unhappy for leaving?

[@TinyTucan]

‘He saw the three of them look stunned and raised his eyebrows.’ That is from the first Harry Potter Book, there is no way that promotes violence.

[@louisphilippe1100]

Keep religion in your basement if you get offended by people who judge your insane practices. Religion is not science. It's not law. It's not a race. It's an ideology. We are free to judge it however we want and no one has a right to take that away from anyone. It's not free speech if you filter my speech. So stop trying to breach the first amendment for the 319 millions of Americans. Thank you.

[@TheBonkleFox]

But what do i do with the sex slaves?

[@RemixedVoice]

I like how you tell people to "keep religion in their basement" and a few sentences later claim that your first amendment rights are being attacked lmfao

[@Awesomeguy614]

@@RemixedVoice Secularists have no problem imposing their values upon religious people despite the fact that's the very thing they complain about when it comes to religion. If anything they're more willing since they're quick to leverage Big Brother for that purpose.

[@peaceandloveusa6656]

"No one is acting violently in the name of Harry Potter." . Well, that did not age well. Jokes aside, great content as always.

[@Cosmological]

11:13 exCUSE ME Well done as always, Drew. You bring nuance and reasonableness to every topic you touch, and this is commendable.

[@fossforever512]

I disagree, I can sum up Islam in not just “one meme” but a single word: false. Just like any other belief system based on nothing but faith.

[@TESkyrimizer]

Ex-religious perspectives are always so informative on the dark sides of religions. Secularism is always the way.

[@smitty1647]

That's not a choice, that's an ultimatum! -Son Gohan

[@elias4571]

Really underrated comment

[@BionicDance]

Waitwait...I don't think he was specific enough. _WHICH_ Islam did he mean?

[@moehoward01]

BionicDance The good one.

[@aathanraan8819]

Which Islam, lol. He was talking about all of Islam as a whole. Who cares which sect. It's the same for Christianity, who cares which sect. It's all nonsense due to the fact that neither has sufficient evidence to warrant belief in their claims and both are trying to legislate their beliefs on to the government's of the world. Religion and government has never mixed well and to force your religious beliefs onto everyone else is immoral.

[@moehoward01]

Aathan Raan Those people in the sects care. There are something like 1000 different flavours of Christianity an half a dozen or so of Islam. None of them like the others. So, which version is a valid question. Unless, of course, the question was tongue in cheek, like Bionic Dances' was.

[@erejnion]

Aathan Raan, you're incorrect. There's night-and-day difference between Islam in the Balkan peninsula and the ISIS version of Islam. In Albania and Bulgaria Islam is only superficially different from Christianity, and most of the "believers" don't actually practice either religion. There have been ZERO attempts to legislate in Bulgaria any religious doctrine on either side. The secularism is absolute, and 99% of the population follows it. Even as majority-muslim country, Albania isn't much different. On the other hand Islam for ISIS is more of a political ideology and less of a religion. If you want to get what Islam is in these parts of the world, remember what was the last aggressive homophobic xenophobic antisemitic ideology that rose in a war-torn region of the world, hit by severe economic recession and sanctioned by every neighbor. Yes, it's nazism. Yes, I'm saying ISIS are the equivalent of nazis, and Islam for them is the equivalent of nazism. Now tell me that waving the American flag on the 4th of July is the same thing as being a literal nazi. Come on.

[@darkdawnbringer]

I know right? you islam of peace when entering a country, and then you islam of *PEACE* when you blow up 14 people... its *TOOOOOOOTALY* not the same thing...

[@GenderCommie]

I agree with your points in the video but I do think it's worth pointing out that just because Islam isn't a racial group doesn't mean that people don't appose Islam for racist reasons so you shouldn't automatically call everyone who opposes Islam racist but you should call out racism when you see it

[@HeatherWorkmanRios]

true. And since so many people are very ignorant and think all Muslims are Arabs and vice versa, we have to understand that many of them ARE being racist. Just because their racism isn't consistent with facts doesn't make it not racism. You'd be surprised at how many (mostly americans) still think all Muslims are Arabs. So yeah I think a lot of them it's about religion and race too.

[@paisleepunk]

good point, and the best part is...GMS AGREES!

[@valerietaylor9615]

One reason Americans conflate Arab and Muslim, is that there is a lot of ignorance about the rest of the world in the U.S.

[@KoRmA-Alt]

@@valerietaylor9615facts tho cus i ain’t know half this stuff till I recently got into videos like this😂

[@riverstyxarmory9782]

No, the biggest problem I find was the Harry Potter argument. Harry Potter is taken as fiction by the writer, publisher, and sellers. The Quran was written as fact from their god and followed as fact from their god. The only better description of the apples and oranges comparison would actually be an apple and an orange. The Quran is stated as fact, as the divine word of god, and it says to kill all infidels wherever you find them. You either agree with the text and take everything, or argue that your god got everything right except that one line.

[@RuthwikRao]

Moreover, Harry Potter isn't being used as an infallible document to form governments and influence policies.

[@riverstyxarmory9782]

chrisl0081234 by my logic, if the work of St Thomas Aquinas is taken as fact from the word of God, it cannot be up for debate. I'm saying, and said, they are comparing two unlike things. Harry Potter, meant only as entertainment, and the Quran, the holy word of God, written as and to be taken as, the ultimate factual and unquestionable word of God If your God is up to interpretation because you don't like it when he said to 'kill every infidel you find, wherever you find them'(paraphrase) then your God is up to interpretation. If he is up to interpretation, why belief the book. If that holy book of theirs contains the all-knowing word of God, one cannot trick people by leaving out the murderous bits and stay intellectually honest.

[@riverstyxarmory9782]

chrisl0081234 *theology* is the study of religion or beliefs. *Theism* is believing those things. Unfortunately, or probably fortunately, no theist belief stands up to logical or scientific scrutiny. The Quran is followed as the word of an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent god. If your omniscient god saying 'kill infidels wherever you find them' is wrong, then the god is wrong. If the god is wrong, then he isn't all-knowing. Then he isn't god. The Quran cannot be critically viewed and come out clean, or *be compared to a work intended as fiction as justification for its evils.*

[@riverstyxarmory9782]

chrisl0081234 you seem to have missed the point entirely. If the works of the Quran are SUBJECTIVE then the words of god are not absolute. But the thesis belief, that the profit Mohammed was takes by God to document his OBJECTIVE will, then the words cannot be open for debate of study, only belief or disbelief.

[@riverstyxarmory9782]

chrisl0081234 so if Quran isn't the word of God, just the word of Muhammad, the book is effectively worthless as Devine text because everything is subjective. But if it was written by God through Muhammad, and can be treated objectively, intellectual honestly cannot be granted to someone who brushes aside the ugly bits because they don't like them. Nothing about this is complicated. If the Quran is being compared directly to a work of fiction, the Quran should be treated as fiction. If it is treated as fact, everything should be taken as fact.

[@shelbygerlack2808]

Thank you for such a respectful & well put together articulation.

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

Thanks for the kind words. I try to focus on criticizing ideas, not people. I’m glad you felt it was respectful.

[@Sara3346]

that INTRO Was pURE gold.

[@DutchJoan]

Even today I had a discussion on Twitter about exact the issue of hijab with a white American woman. It felt very disappointing that she was more interested in protection freedom of expression (aka wearing the hijab) than freedom of oppression.

[@wljnj]

Head covering does predate islam, but violence surrounding it only appears in islam in present day.

[@wljnj]

I don't car about islam, many people who don’t bother to take the time to learn about Islam, also don't give a shit about islam. We have problem with the way people are treated in places of the world where islam is dominant as a religion, and the way it's practiced is highly interfering the way governments set their laws, and freedoms of people in general. If you compere any predominantly Christian country that is secular, and all of them are, and any predominantly muslim country, and many of them are not secular, where do you think people have more freedom and laws that are not discriminatory or life threatening. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317342/Muslim-woman-sacked-REFUSING-wear-headscarf.html www.ibtimes.co.in/watch-woman-beaten-not-wearing-hijab-properly-767253 freethoughtnation.com/for-millions-of-women-the-islamic-veil-is-not-a-choice/ www.rt.com/news/408129-father-beaten-daughter-hijab/ www.inquisitr.com/4872532/young-woman-wearing-hijab-improperly-gets-viciously-beaten-by-irans-morality-police/ www.independent.co.uk/voices/saudi-woman-no-hijab-beheading-killing-social-media-isis-womens-rights-human-rights-council-uk-a7452636.html www.advocate.com/world/2016/5/27/12-countries-will-kill-you-being-lgbt www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-oppressive-countries-towards-homosexuality.html

[@suzimonkey345]

chrisl0081234 “don’t see violence in Malaysia or Indonesia”, tell that to the homosexual people being lashed in public! Tell that to the victims of terrorist attacks! The “Indonesia is the largest Muslim population and they are democratic and respect human rights” is a myth! Tragically, modern political Islam is INCREASING in the world. Even the “democratic” and “peaceful” Islamic majority countries are changing....not for the better! I strongly believe that we need to stop lying about Islam. That’s NOT ‘islamophobic’! We should support and defend the persecuted, oppressed voices which are calling for reform. The one current sited ‘cliche’ about Islam that I believe is “Muslims are the first victims of Islamist violence and persecution”. A true liberal would support these Muslims and stop calling their words lies... that’s what we are doing when we deny that there is anything wrong (against human rights) in Islam.

[@TheShows247]

well were you considering banning hijab? Because that's oppression. Just because some Islamic countries force dress code does not mean we have to where there is freedom of religion. Plus, although there is no punishment for not observing hijab in traditional Islamic law it is considered sinful just like public nudity is illegal here they have their stricter laws. Plus, just because some women have families pressuring them the VAST majority of American Muslim women feel the most comfortable this way.

[@italianspaghettisauce]

let's appreciate the B.S sign pointing to an essential oils book and the oils laid out nicely lmao.

[@zaprese]

Kåi Kommentates Essential oils are find for a nice massage.

[@freelanceopportunist559]

Did he say "jihad: to go on more dates"? WOW the lies tho....

[@wes6363]

6:50 Hitler also had a Jihad. He even wrote a book about it. He went so far to be clear he even named it "Mein Komf" , 'my struggle'

[@paintbox3011]

It's called "Mein Kampf"

[@RM-yf2lu]

How the fackkk can you take "slay the unbelievers wherever you find them" in any other context???

[@hithere7080]

The context is that verse is about people who used to believe and are now non believers, technically out of context, still promoting violence

[@cjalisyas]

Quran (9:29): "Fight against Christians and Jews until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low." Quran (5:51): "Don't take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them." Quran (2:65-66): "Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers." Quran (5:51): "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Quran (9:30): "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

[@ahamedumusaafir9856]

Y. Ismail .... Wikipedia does not translate quran. It just gives the most reputed muslim scholars' translations that already exists for centuries. You read those translations.

[@PrimaMostra]

Dear Americans, this country: Iran is pronounced: "ear-on" Cheers, The rest of the world

[@IWonder474]

Guess what. I-RAN from that pronunciation! 😂

[@julzbehr6696]

I visited a mosque with my school once. All the girls had to wear headcoverings and long sleeves and pants. It was summer and it was hot out. None of those regulations where placed upon the boys. We had to enter through different entrances and were not allowed in the same room as our male classmates. We tried to take a class photo to document the field trip, but we had to take two, one of the boys and one of the girls. During the visit in the mosque, a bit of my hair slipped out of my headscarf. You see, I have short hair that usually hangs into my face. That day, I had it all pinned away, but the pin didn’t hold and slipped into my face with my hair. I noticed and started trying to tuck it back. I moved back the headscarf while doing it. Our guide notices and starts going on a tirade about how important the headcoveing is, breaking of their explanation of a feature of the mosque. I learned a lot from that trip to the mosque.

[@nics9840]

Those women you showed in Iran are absolute heroes and that makes me hopeful for the future

[@sarahthewho5374]

Yah jihad means "to try" .it can mean kiling or fighting too but ok.lets say jihad doesnt mean that. But islam doesn't just use "jihad". It uses the word "قَتال" ghattal Which literally means murder

[@somethingnew12400]

Oh thank u miss can u translate the word jihad too in English. 😒 . . Islam never allowed the cruelty n injustice. U should read about the life of Muhammad (PBUH) and his followers. Prophet (S.A) even told them that "don't cut the fruitful tree" even on land of enemy then how Islam can ask it's followers to kill humans. Read Islam n Islamic books instead of watching these liars n muslims then u will know better. ☺

[@j.mtherandomguy8701]

@@somethingnew12400 I have read the Quran and 1 entire chapter of that book is dedicated to the killing and subjugation of non-muslims.

[@mrunknown6994]

@@j.mtherandomguy8701 they tend to ignore those for some reason

[@ahamedumusaafir9856]

Not just the quran. Hadeed (sunna) and sira (history) is also disgustingly replete with wars , murders, internal fighting among prophet's companians treasons....etc .

[@kamrulhasan3468]

@@somethingnew12400 You are the liar

[@TringaNebulosa]

"Islam isn't theologically true." Is there anything that IS theologically true?

[@dudep504]

Maybe, but as far as we currently know, no.

[@bayardkyyako7427]

Cheeseburger comes with cheese, but I guess Burger King didn't get the fucking memo, still a good burger though.

[@shannabananas780]

He funny part is... Muslim/Christian are eerily similar yet oh so different. Each have different interpretation of their Holy Book. One can promote love/understanding and the other can promote hate/murder. Each book have their own verses that say "kill" and ppl take that shit for heart.

[@wes6363]

If only the Quran had a new testament ;-;

[@Who-Dunnit]

@@wes6363 instead, all the additions (hadith) kept making everything worse.

[@mdstanton1813]

Both try and pass of violent or hate filled verses as being taken out of context. I guess that means any positive, moderate, forgiving messages in the quran/bible are also just a tiny segment taken out of context and they too do not represent the whole

[@radicallyalyssa]

How have I never seen this channel before? Amazing video, and it's intellectually honest.

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

Thank you! I try!

[@jayjohnson778]

Keep doing what you’re doing

[@deewesthill4705]

In western countries, as the Muslim population grows, the more pressure there is for allowing sharia law, or zones that allow it, or they even start practicing it against the secular law.

[@flatfacedcat]

Your experience with "being" a Christian in your family is exactly like mine. Even as a very young child, I was aware of the content taught in Sunday services and other classes (like "childrens church"), and no matter how much I deliberated, none of what I was hearing made any rational sense. I felt awful my whole childhood and into adulthood because I was forced to attend church and socially I needed to conform, lest I upset people around me or look "off". Finally as an adult in college, I came out as the atheist I always was and stopped attending church with the family. It was an awful, long period of being violently shamed, ostracized, and abused by my family. Years later however, I'm thankful to say it is mostly better.

[@aaayu1]

"Woefully misunderstood..." yes, it's worse than you think it is.

[@AwestaKhalid]

"a Muslim could choose to go out on more dates as his 'jihad' and it would be a legitimate form of jihad according to the true teachings of islam." LMFAO - the Quran expressly says that pre-marital relations between men and women are strictly forbidden. Unless you make the argument that the the true translation of "forbidden" in the classical arabic of the Quran means "allowed"

[@thejackanapes5866]

FFS the demonetization thing... This is a problem with the way we're doing our capitalism. We are such a stupid, short-sighted species sometimes.

[@deewesthill4705]

Having known a few Muslims by acquaintances and conversations, and also by working for one, and having read the Quran, i realize that the only way many of them can "like" us non-Muslims is by seeing us as a slave population destined by their god from birth to serve Muslims, meekly obeying their laws and paying them a tax for the right to exist.

[@twistamoneus]

Broke: Islam good Christianity bad Woke: Islam bad Christianity bad

[@georgederuiter1412]

Why do religious people always say, that certain things (violence, hate towards women, homosexuality etc.) have to be seen in context and be interpretated while other themes, that most people could agree with( love thy neighbor , forgive your enemy, etc.) can be seen literally?

[@BiscuitGeoff]

I would love to see a version of HuffPost’s video that was all about Christianity. ‘People say Jesus oppressed women but that’s not true: he let them wash his feet with their hair as often as they wanted...

[@setablaze1802]

Um... he didn’t oppress women though? Your comment is still funny regardless, and I doubt they’ll look so kindly on Christianity any time soon. A lot of us are way too conservative after all.

[@jackdaniel8628]

No.... she was atoning for sin, as she was a prostitute. Men washed feet too. Jesus never discriminated against anyone because of gender. This was to the anger of his disciples, as he would talk to women in public, which was taboo.

[@jwmmitch]

Im still getting ads. I hope that means you're still monetized!

[@ReasononFaith]

Thank you for sharing such a nuanced take on misrepresentation in the media when it comes to Islam. As an ex-Muslim, I find your content on the subject really on point. Keep up the excellent work!

[@ReasononFaith]

In a video of this length, I think running off names of Islamic countries was not to imply they are the same in all respects, but where they are similar, those aspects were relevant to the larger point he was making. If anything, I think he went out of his way to show that he doesn't deny some of the nicer interpretations and meanings contentious aspects of Islam can have.

[@dylanbradfordgreenlee331]

I'm sorry you always get demonotized m8, love your content

[@Linahossam2000]

I am an ex muslim atheist woman living in Egypt and if i dare speak up i would either be killed or imprisoned and there are countless examples of people like me who tried to defy the system and they ended up in prison or they disappeared without a trace

[@Lawh]

When people speak of the importance of context, I'd like to ask, under what circumstance they would cut off the hands and feet of another person.

[@uaexemarat]

Cutting feet was never mentioned There was no prison system back then, so punishments had to be instant and make a point about the specific crime Plus it's one had, the other hand is still there I can't speak further

[@danaseifert7205]

I really appreciated your analysis of modern media’s attempts to paper over violent and discriminatory traditions that conflict with secular humanist values. Please do the same for christianity!

[@Birb916]

Wow KZbin straight up added an ad for a mosque fundraiser

[@Eris00i]

religious groups target atheist videos with adds... it's like that for many atheist youtubers, crazy I know.

[@MrGeocidal]

There were people who rallied against Harry Potter using excerpts from its pages that made it seem violent.

[@Dayzheart]

Ask an exmuslim about Islam

[@MimzyVidz]

Love your channel, your style, everything! BIG fan here. Much love

[@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

Hey, right back at you! I enjoy your videos and loved your last appearance on Veedu Vidz

[@lordfifth3106]

14:23 “I’ve been Drew” Implies you at some point were the entity known as Drew but are in fact no longer Drew. Video debunked, if no response within 24 hours channel will be deemed unwatchable

[@HeatherWorkmanRios]

yeah why do some youtubers say that? It's kind of the only annoying thing he says though.

[@saschamayer4050]

*drawn.

[@whoami5960]

Hey, I'm an ex-muslim and even though I don't agree with the Quran, I'm not anti-faith nor do I have Islamaphobia. Great video.

[@mo_7199]

Go out on more dates? Babe, that's haram. You can't go on dates if you're Muslim, unless it is with your spouse.

[@elizacolinhodges2477]

Just got an ad about 'understanding the Quran' when opening this video. There is a guy telling you that all your life problems will be solved when understanding god, can something be done about this? Just thinking of more vulnerable people who are probably seeking new info here, and might fall back into a new hip religiosity if got the chance to see this before.

[@Samanthapants0077]

You are my new favorite channel damn you are killing it

[@antasprakash9305]

1:35 In India, homosexuality is legal now after a "landmark" judgement.

[@zaidsyed8187]

Go meet Muslims and ex-Muslims, YES! Being an ex-Muslim myself, I could not agree more.