All of this feels like a half-hearted attempt to squash the right to repair movement by providing "repair resources" so lawmakers have a hard time ruling against them. In reality though, these phones are still not what one would consider to be easily repairable. It's all a bit sad really.
@hillsongaming28222 жыл бұрын
true I wasn hoping they would change. seems like these companies care mostly about is money and not really not really about the customer.
@hillsongaming28222 жыл бұрын
@@Bobspineable I just hope this changes because I dont see this lasting for long if your gonna repaire something like the screen and not having to use certain features its just not worth its "opps I cracked my phone time to buy a new iPhone"
@bluej5112 жыл бұрын
And people will keep buying em instead of taking a stand, and don't get started on universal healthcare lol
@alerey43632 жыл бұрын
the really sad part is apple fanboys still buying this expensive proprietary closed crap ;apple not only spies on them with BTLE when their iphones are OFF but still controls the part you buy for it to end up only inside your phone, thus 3rd party repairs *WON'T BE ABLE TO STOCK PARTS!* . Process insanely slow, costly and cumbersome for every replacement (cameras, battery, screen).
@PlasticCogLiquid2 жыл бұрын
Let's be real, that's exactly what it is.
@timehunter94672 жыл бұрын
So this “self repair” is just letting you do the hard work, pay more and reduce their costs. Wow.
@f8keuser2 жыл бұрын
it's no different from removing the headphone jack and asking people for a arm or a leg for their airpods lol...
@Fixingthingz4u2 жыл бұрын
Spot on Timehunter !!
@selwynandrews96652 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's Apple's version of a meal kit. We're getting takeaways, but we're still doing the cooking.
@garyhewgley34872 жыл бұрын
No, the funny part is how many people will continue to buy iphones and ignore all of the bad parts. If you see something wrong, either fix it or stop complaining.
@xbrandon22522 жыл бұрын
@Jaquan Kelsor you’re crazy
@yohanescahyadi18222 жыл бұрын
Apple made a phone so unrepairable, their own technician cant repair it 🤣
@mathewng19882 жыл бұрын
And that is Apple's stance in "right to repair".
@UsmanAhmedkoguna2 жыл бұрын
Up Samsung
@Scorpiogirl_10292 жыл бұрын
That's embarrassing. 🤣😒🤦🏿♀️
@BoleDaPole2 жыл бұрын
Apple doesn't want you repairing your phone, they want you to buy a new one every two years, preferably every one year.
@isaaco56792 жыл бұрын
I wad always a Mac fan and my last computer is a 2007 MacBook. It still works and is repairable, but I have neglected it.
@Chasing-the-outdoors2 жыл бұрын
These repair programs all started around the same time at every company. It is 100% a scam to avoid right to repair laws. We still need them to pass! Don’t support the programs unless you are benefitting from it. I’d still rather pay the same to have someone else at fault if a mistake occurs.
@user-qy9tf2im7f2 жыл бұрын
It is very easy to avoid, just don't buy Apple Products, as a Retired Technician who also sold 1000's of PCs, I would repair Apple's with their overpriced common components, due to proprietary firmware, but in good conscience could never suggest the purchase of any Apple Device, sorry they are the biggest scam in the Electronics Business in the World. No Company on the Planet gives you less value for you dollar.
@ovindu75112 жыл бұрын
😢
@HughJeffreys2 жыл бұрын
Had to re-upload the video as the original that was out for about 30 minutes wouldn't play on IOS devices and was stuck at 360p on android and 1080p on the web. Processing issue on KZbin's side. So if you saw it the first time it is the same video and will be just as good to watch the second time round :)
@inugamiodachi2 жыл бұрын
ty it looked horrible on the mobile app
@HuMan-bEing1322 жыл бұрын
lmao ye the vid wouldn't load on ios
@inugamiodachi2 жыл бұрын
@@HuMan-bEing132 ok
@Marcos_Tired2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately is still loading on 144p by default on mobile, but at least it let's me choose 1080p, despite taking a good 1 to 2 minutes to process everything, KZbin is bugging as hell, lol
@henrycarter12932 жыл бұрын
Yeah thankyou
@HughJeffreys2 жыл бұрын
7:53 - Small correction. The ambient light sensor is what controls brightness not the proximity sensor. Despite that, it's still being disabled after a screen replacement, which was the point i was trying to get across. *Update:* 5 days after having the calibration issues the self repair store reached out saying: "Following up with this issue. If you would like to try system configuration again, please contact us. I would recommend reviewing page 61 in the manual prior to the chat as it gives guidance on the LiDar Scanner calibration process. Thank You!" Good to see the follow up. Can only hope if they see this video they take it as a way of improving their system. If I get back in touch I will update you here.
@mujtabaarain2 жыл бұрын
you should your ip for a split sec
@khevinski01462 жыл бұрын
would like to see if using a replacement LCD and copying the data from genuine then ask for apple techs help will show if its genuine.
@𰻝2 жыл бұрын
@@mujtabaarain that's his local ip
@gadgetboyj2 жыл бұрын
It’s worth mentioning that sales tax is charged on top of Apple’s in-person repairs as well, at the same rate as the self service parts would be taxed (if the shipping address is in the same city/state, since it varies by location). So the parts are still priced unreasonably high, but not more than the in-store repairs, even after taxes. It’s typical in the US for pricing not to include any taxes, and for the taxes to all be added at once on the total of the order/sale.
@piping11722 жыл бұрын
I get the impression you like the sound of your own voice
@Alias_Anybody2 жыл бұрын
This calibration process is madness. There's no good reason to pair most parts to a specific device to begin with.
@JAB642662 жыл бұрын
Unless yours gets stolen and used for parts.
@HChristoph2 жыл бұрын
Exactly @Alias Anybody
@LexYeen2 жыл бұрын
@@JAB64266 maybe if parts were easier to get through legal channels and phones weren't made to be replaced every year or two, theft of phones would go down 🤔
@satsumagt52842 жыл бұрын
@@LexYeen No, it wouldn't. If thieves know iPhone parts aren't really valuable due to pairing, they'd just avoid stealing iPhones altogether.
@gp33282 жыл бұрын
@@satsumagt5284 Well they can still sell the phones
@m3lodeth2 жыл бұрын
This kind of defeats the whole purpose of fixing it yourself which is exactly what Apple's plan is. They want people to think that it is a bigger inconvenience to fix your phones yourself instead of just letting their service centers do it. People who are fairly new to DIY fixing smartphones may encounter more complication and find the process frustrating.
@LexYeen2 жыл бұрын
When DIY repair costs as much or more than than paying Apple to fix it for you, and the official DIY repair process still requires Apple to be involved, that says everything you need to know.
@evil1st2 жыл бұрын
It wouldnt be so bad if their repair services didnt cost an arm and a leg. If it was a third as much or even half as much to replace a screen then I could see how it would be a lot better than doing it yourself, but its not. If you cant even repair your own phone then you dont own it at all. In fact I wouldnt be surprised if they had fine print at the bottom of their website that said "all devices are still owned by us after paying to use them".
@vinny1422 жыл бұрын
" People who are fairly new to DIY fixing smartphones may encounter more complication and find the process frustrating." Ehm, yes but the simple fact is that there are hardly any people who *want* to fix their phones themselves. Also: if I was a phone manufacturer I would absolutely not let random users "repair" my products, I would require that they are licences repairshops at least. Why: because when pelple start fixing their own stuff because some duded on the internet told them it was easy, then that phone is going to die and the manufacturer will get the blame for not making the process bulletproof. Apple is wrong for not letting repairshops fix phones, but letting end-users do it is just a very very bad idea (no I don't care how good you are at it, go work for a licenced repair shop)
@S_t_r_e_s_s2 жыл бұрын
As someone who worked for Apple for a year, trust me when I say we were as lost as most consumers when it came to new products and releases.
@DavidManouchehri2 жыл бұрын
Did you work for Apple’s main office, or the Apple Store?
@S_t_r_e_s_s2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidManouchehri Apple Store, they really tried to drill in the fact that you should love Apple and your job. I didn't obviously.
@DavidManouchehri2 жыл бұрын
@@S_t_r_e_s_s that’s kinda like saying you didn’t understand farming and were as lost as your customers when you worked at a grocery store.
@farqueue0012 жыл бұрын
You shouldnt be. That's why apple is a POS company just in it for the $$$. Go android, be smarter
@MultiTelan2 жыл бұрын
Yup. It has been that way since at least 2010. I worked in a call center for them and I couldn’t even use my own damn mouse with their computers. They’re so secretive that it should be met with force.
@highroyds2 жыл бұрын
Strange how I’ve not seen this ‘calibration’ process by other KZbinrs that have done the same repair. Thank you for the full explanation and process.
@Moerfel2 жыл бұрын
This is just a big middle finger to the right to repair movement. And it basically costs the same as just taking the iPhone to Apple and get it fixed. They even use the same machinery in the Apple Store
@kushalraj2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a bad thing that they recommend the same machines that Apple stores use because a novice is likely to make small mistakes. It takes longer using their machines but it’s more idiot proof. The part pairing however is still dumb.
@chilly16612 жыл бұрын
@@supafly8 what are you on about bro
@SlartiMarvinbartfast2 жыл бұрын
It's Apple, the company of greed and overpriced products.
@doodlecaboodle92982 жыл бұрын
@@kushalraj their machines aren’t more idiot proof my guy they’re about the same as the ifixit kit and any other phone repair machine It just looks more convenient. but there’s far morn cheaper and far more easy to use tools.
@kushalraj2 жыл бұрын
@@doodlecaboodle9298 oh yea there definitely are easier to use and cheaper machines out there. And i fix it makes great ones. Apples machines just take the guess work out of how much pressure to use to seal phone, stick battery, how much and how to heat the phone to remove screen without damaging it. If you have 25-40% of the knowledge then all other tools are better. If you have 0 knowledge other than the manual you just read a week ago though you might damage the phone. On a side note: it makes it almost as perfect as a factory phone quality of repair wise. I.E. You can be confident of the water and dust sealing because even repair shops don’t seal phones with the proper pressure sometimes. I have had a phone damaged due to water after a repair shop didn’t seal the phone properly. So if a repair shop can make a mistake, a user new to apple’s weird shit is more likely to do it.
@miguelsilva91182 жыл бұрын
The "self" in "self repair" is basically a joke by Apple. "You can repair it yourself - you just need us every step of the way."
@Atixtasy5 ай бұрын
you CAN 'but' if you want it done proper, then yes grovel to us oh underling....>.>
@FiretubeVtwo2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, considering using the factory parts showed up as "unknown" after the new parts were paired to the phone, it seems as if Apple must store the pairing data in a writable piece of memory. Perhaps with enough testing and analysis it could be possible to locate where this data is written and figure out what is being written. Maybe then it will be possible to completely sidestep having an Apple technician "pair" your new parts and do it yourself! Possibly even have 3rd party display replacements that send the correct info to be considered genuine?
@ThisNoName2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Chinese already had it all figured out, no way they are going to let rest of the phone go to wasteland because one part is broken.
@two_tier_gary_rumain2 жыл бұрын
Hugh said he was recording the data being transferred but it was encrypted which makes it next to impossible to decipher. However, I expect one day that some whizkid will work it out and jailbreak Apple's protection system.
@Madinko122 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt it'd be of any help. Even if you managed to decrypt the blob, there's probably more cryptography involved. They must be flashing a cryptographically signed payload that contains both the part's SN and the phone's SN. The phone then continuouly checks the signature against well-known certificates and disables the features in case of a bad signature or a wrong payload. You'd either need to somehow add your own certificate to the well-knowns (in order to be able to self-sign the payloads) or bypass the check at software level or tamper the part's SN, which at any rate involves patching the iPhone's software (or even some TEE which is worse). This, if possible at all, requires very high skills in reverse engineering, lot of time, probably lots of equipements, and is fairly easy for Apple to circumvent with an update as soon as you make the exploit public. We need to get rid of DRMs in general. All DRMs, everywhere, not just Apple's. They're counterproductive, and they just make the world worse.
@sjdoiajsd2 жыл бұрын
That information is saved in syscfg partition on NAND (on iPhones 12 and below). Syscfg is well documented on the internet and it is possible for third parties to change information on that partition with the help of checkm8 exploit(iPhone X and below). Infact you can also unlock Activation locked non cellular iPads and Apple Watches by modifying SN and Wifi/BT MAC address data stored there. That’s also probably why you cannot pair a new screen to the device without Apples consent.
@Madinko122 жыл бұрын
@@two_tier_gary_rumain Deciphering the data might be far the hardest part actually. Given the screenshots in the video, it looks like Jeffrey only captured TLS packets so this is not even an obfuscation attempt by Apple but just the normal "sane" thing for any communication over the internet (it may just be HTTPS under the hood and zero application-level encryption involved). Nobody sends data through unencrypted channels nowadays and this could have been anticipated beforehand. A better attempt could have been to setup a man-in-the-middle attack. Anyways, even if you managed to reverse the whole protocol, encryption would still be your latest worry. Signature checks are the major problem here and they're done outside the protocol. You need to bypass the signature checks and if you bypass them, you don't even need to understand the protocol.
@kurtjustiniani13542 жыл бұрын
Now for those still defending Apple we see many offense they have done to their customers: 1. Data Privacy - Changing screen, camera, battery, etc. doesn't mean people need to give permission to Apple on their calls, images, and other privacy stuff just for the sake of having genuine parts acknowledgement. Not that there's no connection for data and repair to begin with. 2. Ownership - People don't need permission from Apple to repair/replace parts on their own device and for Apple to downgrade the "features" just because they repair their own device. What right does Apple have to limit people's rights to use their own device just because they don't follow what Apple's repair guidelines? Does people own their iPhone or Apple does? 3. Repair shenanigans- The sheer hassle of "calibration" already adds to perception of general populace that it's better to buy or let only Apple repair their devices, coupled with "features" downgrades for unauthorized repair, this in turn further cement the perception of the general populace pertaining repair & ownership. Even the "technician" doesn't know the problem of the said device after "calibration" and offering your data to Apple. What's the point of Apple repair program?
@Legion8492 жыл бұрын
The point is to get lawmakers confused. By providing a half hearted repair program they set a good image because there are enough idiots to defend Apple
@edwardtan13542 жыл бұрын
thing is I think part of the OG repair process is to pretty much reset the phone to factory settings then start the repair at least thats part of my experience when I tried to have a battery replacement on my iPhone 5 so theoretically nothing is "gained nor lost" but if you don't use iCloud then you better be sure you have the entire phone backed up to a PC/MacBook/Laptop when you get it back. as this "repair" process is no different from what happens behind the doors of Apple Service Center yes you have a technician calling a technician to do the diagnostics system
@nettack2 жыл бұрын
I want to see the factory worker in Shenzen moving the camera back and forth on every device leaving the product line. Apple deliberately is trying to make it as hard as possible.
@sebastianzietara40182 жыл бұрын
Actually no you don’t own the iPhone because the OS is so much connected to the hardware that you own, that basically your ownership is superseded by Apple ownership of the OS. That is basically how the Apple legal team answered one of the company requirements : overstep the legal requirement of them being forced to sell the rights to the hardware. They found the pairing system software locks.
@Gregorylambertt2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the Apple calibration software for the iPhone 12 & 13: it's actually just a website anyone can go to, but you have to be AST2 certified in order to use it (which I am). It's not exactly the greatest but it's better than the calibration software for the 11 and lower, which needs a MacBook with a special program on it called repair cal.
@satsumagt52842 жыл бұрын
What is AST2? Apple Service Technician 2? What happened to the 1?
@haydenmcdonald40872 жыл бұрын
@@satsumagt5284 you really, really dont wanna know about AST pre 2.0 it was upgraded for very good reasons.
@ritvizsingh89722 жыл бұрын
@@haydenmcdonald4087 oh you bet I do 😳
@ArthurD2 жыл бұрын
@@haydenmcdonald4087 start talking or we'll just delve deeper into the digital slavery
@haydenmcdonald40872 жыл бұрын
@@ArthurD It's not even that interesting is the sad part, pre 2.0 was jus riddled with such shit code and so many bugs that half the time it didn't fucking work. You can still see those outcomes in ast2 with the lidar scanner failure among many myriad of other things. Apple's software and integration (for their hardware ID sync'ing and locking) just fucking sucks plain and simple. It's overly complicated and solves a made-up problem that at this point i think everyone who works for the damn company has been brainwashed into thinking is the Boogeyman personified. In short, you think AST2 is dumb because of the shit in this video? That's only the surface of AST2s problems; now multiply that by 4, that's what pre AST2 was like.
@nettack2 жыл бұрын
Even when laws are forcing them to be more likable, Apple somehow manages to become even more disgusting in the process. Can we please recall that a 4 digit sum has been spent for us to be treated like this?
@TonyRule2 жыл бұрын
That 4-digit sum was a choice, and this is really nothing new on their part.
@MaddJakd Жыл бұрын
@@TonyRuleIt really is a choice, and one that sadly will never stop, as folk just swear by their Apple products like its made of literal gold.
@razorrich2 жыл бұрын
Apple’s interpretation of ‘right to repair’ is a joke! They are making it unnecessarily difficult.
@JAB642662 жыл бұрын
So now let’s see. Some of the most desirable devices on earth are now even more free to steal and swap out parts WillyNilly. Hummmmmm 🤔 is it a right to repair or an “ease to steal” that you KZbinrrs are looking for.? Many out there masquerading as ‘repairmen” but are just hacks and crooks in a kiosk.
@liucyrus222 жыл бұрын
I see that as a big middle finger
@flamingkillermc28062 жыл бұрын
So that it seems like all this heavy tools is needed and makes you think that it is this hard to do a repair. But its for you to think its better to just pay for apple to do it or buy a new one. In reality its not because you can do it for much less and you don’t need all these heavy tools for the $50 for 1 week
@Igor-de7zz2 жыл бұрын
Of course they are making it difficult. They don’t want to do it . Their whole shtick is ensuring they technically offer the service because of the court decisions , but to make it so difficult you don’t actually want to go to the trouble .
@somebodyirrelevant1412 жыл бұрын
They really are the worst company in Silicon Valley
@siliconalleyelectronics1872 жыл бұрын
For anyone curious, every part associated with the error messages has a small chip embedded in the part. The battery has a small logic board that has this chip, the display has it soldered to the back of the display, and the cameras have it embedded in the flex cable. This chip holds a ROM module with the part's serial number, if the serial number is different from what the motherboard expects then it throws an error and is no longer able to communicate properly with the unit. This is not a calibration issue, parts needing calibration generally still function, just "off center" so to speak, the ambient light sensor would view full sunlight as ambient light and ambient light as pitch black,. Adjusting values back to what they're supposed to be is what "calibration" means. The ambient light sensor doesn't work because it's IC is integrated with the front camera flex and is paired, the proximity sensor is it's own unit and not a paired device so it still turns the screen off when covered up. Stuttering cameras are due to the controller IC not properly communicating with the motherboard, that's not a calibration issue, it's a programming one. For older units, tools exist to copy this data from the devices being changed to the new ones like screens and cameras. Apparently Apple re-writes the data on the motherboard which is probably why it takes so long, writing the display itself takes about 15 seconds, I know because I've done a lot of them. They likely do this (because it otherwise makes no sense) to prevent the device from having multiple compatible replacement parts, if you refurbish the display you won't be able to use it on the phone again. TLDR: 100% of these issues could go away tomorrow if Apple just updated the motherboard's firmware, but they won't.
@kravchan Жыл бұрын
Thank you for an information, so its the same used on a expensive cars, but for phone lol
@TrigTrig2 жыл бұрын
$10 says that they use the device serial numbers to blacklist warranty repairs or to give them proof for a "well you must have broke it yourself" excuse
@HarroKitteh2 жыл бұрын
Would literally be impossible for a company the size of apple to do that and someone not blow the whistle
@JumpingManGMVR2 жыл бұрын
Ghgggg Fr f
@TheEviltaco6662 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure sure they require the serial number to avoid this We get it you hate apple
@mianunya76072 жыл бұрын
@@HarroKitteh theyve done many things similar without being caught for multiple years, so it’s not impossible.
@JakeT3042 жыл бұрын
@@TheEviltaco666 ahhh the apple fanboy arrives smh 🤡🤡
@shuba0972 жыл бұрын
actually (3:00) Apple sends the screws because you're not supposed to reuse them (now this maybe different for the self service program) but as a tech for Apple they want you to replace them "because the screws have been used and can no longer hold the proper torque specifications"
@tombuck2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you made this video. The repair program is a step in the right direction, but there’s clearly a lot of work left to be done (and shipping giant tools around the world is pretty impractical). Makes me really appreciate the practicality of iFixit.
@nettack2 жыл бұрын
"to be done" is putting it mildly. They are sabotaging it on purposefrom the getgo. Just like with everything else.
@lordjaashin2 жыл бұрын
it boggles my mind how environment friendly and vegan crowd form the biggest customer base of apple products, which is a notorious company that plan obsolescence its products to keep its profit margins and ends up filling landfills with perfectly repairable phones and electronic devices
@CiderPang272 жыл бұрын
More like a step backwards. All apple have to do is remove serialisation of parts but the dictators won't do it as they still want to be in control.
@theRayzz2 жыл бұрын
They are just backing up their arses.
@WiggyWamWam2 жыл бұрын
Shipping giant tools is much more practical than buying those same tools for a single repair and never using them again.
@dom_the31662 жыл бұрын
Now they're selling parts for pretty much the same cost as the entire service of a replacement, there is no possible way apple can claim they don't profit off repairs
@douglasbrittain70182 жыл бұрын
They profit on everything they do
@raffy1412 жыл бұрын
Best shot to acutally get some data that apple sends is to wait for a Jailbreak and record all decrypted data that gets send to the phone - maybe there is finally a way to capture something that would allow to develop a software that allows for new pairing.
@MrARM2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if one of those checkra1n compatible phones could help in this situation.
@hopolapopola2 жыл бұрын
@@MrARM the most recent phone that works with checkra1n is the iPhone X, so unless apple expands it that far back, it wouldn't help
@huskieszn2 жыл бұрын
There is a jailbreak coming for all devices on iOS 15.1.1 and below really soon. Until then we're out of luck
@raffy1412 жыл бұрын
@@huskieszn could be that requirement for the technician to connect is that you have to update to the latest version of iOS, guess we’ll have to wait and see
@_xwtk2 жыл бұрын
@@huskieszn Won't help, you need to be on the latest version of iOS.
@rayoflight622 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, Mr Jeffreys. This represents the highest mark of professionalism of any technical video I've seen on YT so far. I never owned or will ever own an Apple smartphone because I'm opposed to the idea of closed-system hardware and software; but I'm interested in following their paces thru the technological progresses; and your videos are a wonder in that respect. I understand Apple uses a hardware encrypted enclave, where the various hardware components are authenticated before (and possibly during) the device operations. This process doesn't differentiate the various components, but creates a matching table of parts - authorised by Apple - which can operate together only after Apple acquired the serial numbers and authorised the pairing. The repair process you have shown complies with the letter, but not the spirit of the law about the right to repair. The Apple reaction to the new law on repair shows their lawyers are more skilled than their design engineers. I suspect this Marie- Antoinette attitude, "give them cake", will backfire. Once more, thank you for creating such an incontrovertible reference standard regarding Apple behaviour and decisions on "right to repair" matters. I remember with nostalgia the Apple II - which shipped with circuit schematics, instructions and eight open slots. Regards from the UK, Anthony
@bottomtext58722 жыл бұрын
How environmentally friendly, shipping around massive pieces of machienery everytime somebody wants to replace a screen, as well as the screen
@jeanbutinfrench2 жыл бұрын
Should they teleport them?
@miscl_anon2 жыл бұрын
@@jeanbutinfrench "massive pieces of machinery" shouldn’t be necessary to begin with. the whole process is convoluted for a simple screen replacement
@miscl_anon2 жыл бұрын
"Planet sized plan" until it affects their bottom line
@two_tier_gary_rumain2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to learn they sell them. When I watched another video about the repair program earlier this month, they were renting the machines out and you had to return them after use. This might work out better if you can resell the machines after use. I expect that will work out to be much cheaper than renting them from Apple - assuming they don't get damaged at some point.
@edwardtan13542 жыл бұрын
you can however buy said machinery so... its up to you if you want it in essence once done the only thing you need are the parts which should be "relatively be affordable" and have a lower carbon foot print so... far from perfect since the AST2 is still pretty locked in really (unless you have an insider guy)
@jackkraken38882 жыл бұрын
[Reinstalls original camera display] iPhone:I've never seen that display in my life.
@derpdude322 жыл бұрын
I miss the days of hot swappable pieces for electronics making repairability a cinch
@LexYeen2 жыл бұрын
I miss electronics being made without the use of proprietary screws.
@gp33282 жыл бұрын
@@LexYeen amen
@lace12102 жыл бұрын
nokia days were swappable parts are easy
@tafsirnahian6692 жыл бұрын
@@lace1210 That's why nokia phones are still running!
@croftmanor2k232 жыл бұрын
It's only getting worse. Laptops for example are now starting to be shipped with soldered on memory. I won't be surprised if the SSD soon follows.
@realastropulse2 жыл бұрын
Huge props to you for capturing the transaction with wireshark, thats clever. Hopefully once this happens enough times the repair community can... figure things out.
@平和-v1z2 жыл бұрын
If Apple truly cared about the environment and the consumer, they would have approached things very differently: 1. Devices need to be repairable by design and if possible upgradable as well. 2. Parts need to be affordable and accessible. They clearly don't care, and they obviously designed their self repair program to be as unattractive as possible. If Apple ever mentions sustainability in any way, it's greenwashing...
@sealwheel2 жыл бұрын
and not have any paired parts
@douglasbrittain70182 жыл бұрын
They brag about how green they are when they dont include a charging brick but will gladly sell you one. Making AirPods and selling by the millions but when the battery goes, they aren’t very repairable and go into waste. That doesn’t sound very green to me
@sabersz2 жыл бұрын
@@douglasbrittain7018 I know multiple people who have dead sets of AirPods just sitting around, or that they've just thrown away entirely. It sucks, because they weren't exactly in the financial situation to go out and buy 200 dollar earbuds just to get rid of them a couple years later. What the hell happened to spending money for a product that you keep? Everything breaks early nowadays. My laptop and headphones, from personal experience.
@DanVerley2 жыл бұрын
I work for an Apple authorized service provider in the US so I have a lot of experience with their processes. Almost all repairs require either calibration or something called system configuration. The latter of those two is what can be run remotely by Apple support after a self-repair. This is also why they aren't offering the program on older models as they require a calibration that requires the device to be plugged into a computer that has specialty software installed. Regarding the screws that are included with the screen. It's not In case you lose a screw. Apple has a strict policy against reusing screws. If we remove a screw then we have to replace it with a new one.
@null2 жыл бұрын
The screw policy is so dumb.
@mathewng19882 жыл бұрын
I guess that basically sums up Apple's policy regarding environment: "screw you".
@DanVerley2 жыл бұрын
@@null having had to deal with stripped screws on multiple occasions I can kind of understand this policy.
@null2 жыл бұрын
@@DanVerley Yeah, but it still seems a waste to just throw away screws.
@null2 жыл бұрын
@@mathewng1988 Accurate.
@XLessThanZ2 жыл бұрын
I guess Apple's crazy high parts prices was one way of paying for the rash of new employees, like Carlos, responsible for in-person pairing. I wonder if Apple's using contractors for this, because that is an extremely simple job duty. As always, great video👍👍
@jaybob15192 жыл бұрын
Yes they are. They use a company called Kellyservices or Convergys. They are people who work from home on a Mac sent to them by Apple. Training is 2 weeks then you’re cut lose on customers.
@Syncopia2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad my spare part prices are funding Carlos' very very important work.
@RedPMD2 жыл бұрын
@@jaybob1519 someone needs to steal the macs special remote calibration iPhone software and make it public. F**k Apple.
@nicolapodgornik66442 жыл бұрын
Everything in tech companies (and none) has contractors. Google, apple, amazon, ebay, banks, airlines, automotive.
@ErickBuildsStuff2 жыл бұрын
I had two iPad pro 10.5 with display and motherboard damage respectively. Since the display damage one was badly mangled, i thought of just transferring Logicboard and home button. Both Cameras didn't work and froze. I had to again disassemble everything and transfer the cameras and then everything worked fine. It was super hard repair but not impossible. Thanks to your videos and Northridgefix videos. His videos are the defacto repair guides to the minutest complex issues. Your videos are good for best disassembly.
@Graylen_MYT252 жыл бұрын
Apple just at this point wants money. If they cared about the environment maybe they'd take a year to improve the repairability rather than making things better. Be a great way to differentiate the models, too (Comment meant to go on first video, tried to get it up as quickly as possible)
@RolandKoller902 жыл бұрын
Actually by apple releasing these parts at about $30-$40 cheaper than an oem refurb from a reputable seller, it made the seller drop their prices also.
@thisnamehaschangedthanksto81852 жыл бұрын
This makes me appreciate the liberty I have to repair my Android phones. Full exercise of my "right to repair" right there
@1sonjohn442 жыл бұрын
Apples' Self Repair Program is not what it seems Me: *When is it ever*
@spadesofpaintstudios17192 жыл бұрын
It’s odd how apple sends you repair parts yet still software locks all of your phone because they didn’t repair it, apple is far to egotistical and greedy to really let us repair any device with their logo. What’s worse is even if you take it to them it seems like they are unwilling to help us with said repair so ultimately they could care lesser then we thought.
@animalhouse88492 жыл бұрын
I always get insulted and screamed at by people saying I was too negative of the program knowing that it would be a complete nothingburger. The trend continues.
@two_tier_gary_rumain2 жыл бұрын
You can never be too cynical.
@prla54002 жыл бұрын
Who be screaming on you for iPhones lol. Amazing.
@animalhouse88492 жыл бұрын
@@prla5400 Apple cultists
@tilen32662 жыл бұрын
If you send the network traffic data to someone that really know a lot about this maybe he could make a program that simulates the calibration software. But I am not promising that it's possible. Only in theory. Great vid as always exposing apples anti repair. Man they just can't end this drama can they.. . 🤦♀️
@NuclearKim2 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video! It's a re-uploaded video, but I was impressed.
@andrewdavison9162 жыл бұрын
As someone who works for a very large third party Apple certified repair center, I can confirm the entire calibration process is extremely difficult and can take way longer than needed. I can have a part in a phone and closed up in well under an hour but because of the calibration most repairs take 1.5-3 hours and I’m even the one running all of the repair calibrations and diagnostics through Apple’s system, GSX.
@lenajk20042 жыл бұрын
To calculate US sales tax: It depends on the origin, but for apple's HQ in Cupertino, it's 9.13% for Santa Clara County, California so you take the item price (for instance, a base iPhone 13 Pro, $999) times 109.13% which gives you a total of $1,090.2087, rounded to US$1,090.21. hope this overexplaination helps lol
@two_tier_gary_rumain2 жыл бұрын
Does US sales tax apply to the state it's sold from or the state it's bought from?
@bluenycom2 жыл бұрын
Sale tax is based in receiving address. Some states have no sale taxes. On the hand, some cities add additional sale taxes in top of the state sale taxes. It's so complicated that online prices are shown without it until you put in shipping address.
@two_tier_gary_rumain2 жыл бұрын
@@bluenycom I'm glad we have a flat-rate GST in Australia. 10% everywhere.
@douglasbrittain70182 жыл бұрын
@@two_tier_gary_rumain in the United States the sales tax is calculated and paid at the buyers locale
@two_tier_gary_rumain2 жыл бұрын
@@douglasbrittain7018 Thank you.
@rigoloweb47622 жыл бұрын
It’s so frustrating when you saw this coming : Expensive parts, but the only ones which can work in your phone. It’s time to boycott all the manufacturers who are doing similar « hardware lockings » of their parts.
@realcyphox59192 жыл бұрын
the screws are not there in case "you're clumsy", they are there because when you do official repairs for apple, you HAVE to replace them. and afaik they are covered in some special adhesive that prevents them from getting loose.
@Encysted2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea on capturing the network traffic. Thanks for all the effort you go to!
@roquesosaBZE2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated of this video. Apple acts as if tho they made huge strides in the right to repair, but pulling the wool over our eyes at the same time with those not being tech savvy. So I find this video very informative n helpful.
@selwynandrews96652 жыл бұрын
What an absolute faff. Fixing an iPhone 8 - including restoring True Tone - is a complete breeze by comparison. Thanks for another thorough video, Hugh!
@DJSekuHusky2 жыл бұрын
Back when I was doing iPhone repairs (up til 7) there were much simpler issues; now I had to learn about the new restrictions in building my new iPhone XR. I got it May 21. They have made it so much more difficult, but if you shop while anticipating the restrictions, you can still get a good deal. My 256GB factory unlocked XR had a broken back glass but everything else was spotless, and I already had an XR 64GB with a shattered LCD but good back glass and frame, as long as you keep track of what parts go where, no error messages. With taxes and genuine adhesives, total cost was
@HughJeffreys2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. I will keep them in mind.
@_CallMeHeisenberg2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent Video From Hugh, Keep it up buddy!
@Abishek_Muthian2 жыл бұрын
As Sikamaru would say, 'What a drag'. Let's just get a Fairphone and get on with it. Well done Hugh.
@96ethanh Жыл бұрын
It is frustrating how nobody (including media outlets) digs deep into this program as Hugh has done. The media is always like "guys stop complaining... right to repair is here... apple just made an amazing new self repair program". It is really smart on apple's part -- people will associate self-repair with an expensive and painful process.
@Mrshoujo2 жыл бұрын
Keep all that captured data during that communication between the device and crApple. Someone out there knows how to unravel it.
@DemonizedTX2 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Insightful, detailed and important to point out if things actually changed but as the video says, Apple is still in complete control of your phone.
@Falconhunter2762 жыл бұрын
Right to repair version of green washing from Apple. Vile, but expected. Nice job Hugh, very professional assessment and demo.
@csonweedagain50542 жыл бұрын
I absorbed the same amount of frustration that I know you were having just by watching this video. I think Apple knows what they're doing when this pushes away the technically skilled in favor of those who just buy a new phone every year.
@KissyKaede2 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of these videos I am even more appalled by Apple.
@anilkinikar2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I can see how much time and money you invested to get the information to us. Kudos to you 👌👌
@justinhughes8892 жыл бұрын
that's dirty they're saying there's issues when there wasn't any just to get you in the store to still pay them!
@uconsaa2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video i've seen regarding this argument ever, well done hugh.
@mike650852 жыл бұрын
When the self service program launched several prominent KZbin channels got their hands on the rental equipment and tried it out highlighting their repair journey. This is the first video I've seen mentioning the ridiculous calibration steps required to return full functionality to the phone. Very suspicious the others would leave this step out in their reviews of the service. Perhaps they were "offered" the chance to review the service rather than renting it genuinely. Even a very popular channel focused on right to repair very cleverly skimmed over the subject.
@HughJeffreys2 жыл бұрын
The calibration is the most important thing to have covered, as it was the whole issue with the phones when I initially tested the repairability. They wouldn't work properly because of the calibration I couldn't do. The fact that the software is only available to people who use the program shows this doesn't comply with what right to repair stands for. Anyone should be able to calibrate their new parts, Apple or 3rd party. But lets be honest the parts pairing likely wouldn't exist if that was the case. I would of also liked to use their tools to give a full look at the program but international shipping would of been between $800-$1000 plus the $1000+ for the kit of tools. So just wasn't feasible for one video.
@CoopC_072 жыл бұрын
Love watching your videos Hugh, I’m starting work experience at a phone repair shop so I can learn a few thing about phone repairs.
@ogdon20092 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you for this video, it has been fascinating. I’ve been wondering about Apple’s repair program since they announced it and I assumed that they would give you access to everything as long you pay the price tag that comes with it. It’s a shame that they did not provide the calibration tool to finish the repair (Are they worried people will use the tool’s bits in order to bypass iPhone security and gain unlawful access to their devices?) If so, they could might as well allow you to create a user name and password as the repair technician and access the calibration tool remotely, effectively keeping their bits in their secure servers.
@Vitoreo2 жыл бұрын
The reason it is the way it is, is very simple. Money.
@FigoNOVA2 жыл бұрын
3:04, the screws are meant to be swapped out. The rectangular outline on the cardboard is meant to be oriented to the battery, and then the screws are in the same general alignment as the ones you will need to remove. Apple's tri-headed screws are really soft metal and use friction to stay in place. Swapping them out ensures the highest quality repair, Samsung certified repairs are the same to refresh Loctite on their screws.
@Whigu2 жыл бұрын
Funny that all other "Apple Self Repair Program" videos what I have seen have gone perfectly and smoothly :-D I wonder how honest they have been or have they just been paid by apple....
@fredkeogh90352 жыл бұрын
What a strong member of the public you are and a credit to the word Freedom your David and Goliath experiment shows everybody the definition of the meaning GREED and Rotten “ Apple’s . I Thank you “
@SeptienPatterson2 жыл бұрын
"System configuration" is another form of control implemented by Apple.
@GareWorks2 жыл бұрын
@@ShushLK It's still a form of control. Nothing that user to whom you replied has been debunked.
@johnjohannesjuan Жыл бұрын
What happened in that calibration process. Was quite a lot different than what I'd have imagined. I thought it would just connect to a server, check the serial numbers and have you do a few quick actions. And not that a service employee would actually have to get involved. Maybe they're worried about reverse engineering if it ran automated, though.
@mystogan40402 жыл бұрын
As a side note. The screw package that comes with the display isn't in case you misplace screws, per Apple guidelines you are supposed to replace every screw removed. Working for an AASP they actually have AASP locations add on consumable 011 number parts ( screw kits and adhesive ) to every order so they can replenish as needed. I think it's pretty silly to be honest. Also a little tip for the adhesive, once the screen is removed reheat and use the twirling method. Even after repairing these phones since the 12 series came out with said adhesive I've only been able to get all the adhesive off in one shot a few times. Takes finesse lol system configuration is a pain (when camera calibration is required) and requires AST2 access. Prior gen phones used a stand alone calibration software. They should really consider allowing users that process the at-home repairs like this to have one time use keys to access AST2 to run system configuration and post repair diagnostics.
@joshgagnier39882 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying everything I wanted to say as a tech, but am scared to piss off papa apple... (I feel he would have a few choice words about using sysconfig himself.)
@mystogan40402 жыл бұрын
Just blows my mind that they have you spend all this money to repair the phone yourself but have to connect to a rep to run config remotely. The issue with the camera after the repair I found happen WAY too often. I got to the point where I didn't want to perform and/or offer rear system repairs due to the Lidar not picking up after transferring the camera. In my mind how hard would it be to have the "customer" use their Apple ID and send them a one time use code to access the suite via email. 🤷🏼♂️
@Random_44002 жыл бұрын
Keep pushing! Just like what happened today soon enough they'll give us what we want this is a big indicator that they are listening and we can't keep quiet about it or it'll stay this way!
@mianunya76072 жыл бұрын
i love apple devices, but my god the company itself is a joke when it comes to handling customers.
@freibier2 жыл бұрын
At 15:09, isn't there still a bit of the protective film over the adhesive, or is the adhesive just that shiny?
@AntonioNoack2 жыл бұрын
Encryption isn't the same as encoding, but they might look very similar. There is readable text, so it looks like it's just encoded. You might find someone, who might be able to decode the messages, or adjust them, so the phones could be paired from a fake server in the future.
@𰻝2 жыл бұрын
HTTPS usually encrypts data
@rossroderickwhitney2 жыл бұрын
Although I don't own ANY smart phone, I found this video fascinating. Thanks, Hugh!
@aimanfitri0iv2 жыл бұрын
i don't know what happened next for the future of the right to repair in the next few years I'm very worried
@ArtiePenguin12 жыл бұрын
Wow. It's quite surprising how much Apple wants this program to fail. Thank you, Hugh, for this in-depth video. I agree with you that it's completely ridiculous for Apple to restrict replacing the display or back camera. There is absolutely no reason to require those parts be paired to the device for them to have full functionality. Consumer hostile decisions like this is the top reason why I would never consider an Apple device as my primary device ever.
@Napa392 жыл бұрын
Apple's repair service is good in concept, but needs work in execution.
@Decommissioned2 жыл бұрын
They are doing it because they have to, not because they want to.
@Napa392 жыл бұрын
It's the bare minimum. Whenever you see a company do something that's the bare minimum, it's because they HAVE to rather than WANT to.
@rosaria838411 ай бұрын
No, it was already proven to be a working concept by many manufacturers already. Apple just twisted it to their own narrative.
@RestoreTechnique2 жыл бұрын
Imagine going through all of that with Carlos with every customer 🙄 So great for repair shops to waste an additional hour for each repair.
@Shizaya4ever Жыл бұрын
I have the iPhone XR and just cracked my phone screen today. I was hoping to eventually replace it myself but I don't how it affect it. My phone also doesn't say it has True Tone but it acts like it does I think. I don't know
@renulousc21262 жыл бұрын
i learned alot from u hugh 🤘 i've already repaired my own iphone xs max, iphone 6s 3X iphone 7 and iphone 12 soon starting a business as a professional i know how to repair chips on motherboard too and i know how to bypass icloud lock 🔐 but i learned mostly from u repairing and changing components --- edit. ( i'm 16 years old ) there is no excuse 👋 i knew iphone was for me when i swapped battery on 6s with knife as i didn't have mine kit😂👋
@johndrocky43772 жыл бұрын
I’m always LEARNING NEW STUFF from Hugh Jeffreys! 👏🔥❤️ THANK 🙏YOU!!!
@D_A862 жыл бұрын
I can't help but feel this is less about a friendly "heys guys you can now repair your own phone" and more about " I'm sorry, now you've brought the parts, rented the tools, voided the warranty and screwed the phone up we will have to charge you even more to fix it properly now" type thing 🤣🤣🤣
@aravarora2 жыл бұрын
Great video Hugh, I actually think apple self service repair isn’t great. Good stuff 👍🏻
@terryjohnsen16892 жыл бұрын
An example of anti-consumer corporate power as the self repair process is virtually a scam. I've owned iPhones in the past but would not do so now. Thanks for making this excellent video.
@stoojinator2 жыл бұрын
Every video you post makes me so glad I don't own, nor will I ever own ANYTHING made by Apple.
@gabrielcosta33012 жыл бұрын
You should try and send that wireshark data to a few hackers, maybe they could sort something out of that mess?
@soda54392 жыл бұрын
Your videos have inspired me to fix my older phones
@georgeboisvert80122 жыл бұрын
You still need Apple for all of their iPhones just to repair the phone even from a 3rd party! That's an Epic Fail and you still don't own the phone that you bought with the money you have!
@jb8888888882 жыл бұрын
In the US taxes vary by location so prices are shown without tax, and then tax is added at the end. This includes brick-and-mortar stores. In the case of Apple's self-repair program and other online purchases, the tax varies by shipping address. Different states have different taxes.
@Vmaxfodder Жыл бұрын
Stop buying Apple , problems solved!
@stefangeschwind2 жыл бұрын
A tip as AASP: DO NOT use ISO propanol for the display adhesive. Use spirit. It's even written that way in the service documents. Reason: ISO does not dissolve this glue that has been used since the 12th year but decomposes it as you have recognized.
@majorjason2 жыл бұрын
The self repair program is designed to make more money
@Decommissioned2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, the cost to rent the tools is 50 dollars, which would barely cover the cost of shipping it. All up it costs about the same as if you were to get it repaired at the apple store, which isn't a good deal, though they lose money from apple store repairs anyways. I doubt they would be making much money from this, if any. They are doing the self service repair program because they have to, not because they want to, if they did want to, then it would be a lot more eloquent then this.
@LexYeen2 жыл бұрын
@@Decommissioned I suspect that it's also so onerous to discourage participation.
@Samuel-ve3wx2 жыл бұрын
I worked at an electronics repair shop that had a partnership with Apple. I did remote tech work so I'd be in a van doing screen repairs, and doing iphones were always a pain. The screen repair is easy, but the calibration process is annoying if you have a bad internet connection. Many times I had to return the phone to the customer unrepaired because my internet was bad, which isn't something that should be a problem at all.
@markbennett66582 жыл бұрын
Object lesson here - Don’t break it in the first place. Install one of Hugh’s ‘tempered glass screen protectors’, slap one of Floss’s ‘slam boy certified with maximum raisivity’ cases on the back and treat it like a cross between a baby kitten and a Faberge egg😂 All will be good - after all you just spent a grand plus on it!
@nickdoesnotlikepie2 жыл бұрын
I’m an ex apple tech who had access to both “AST2” and “Repair cal” aka the tools used to calibrate. AMA!
@shubhambubna2 жыл бұрын
Hugh, make a setup video or a room tour. I really love the way you store your products, so some good tips would be a good plus 😊
@marymadigan97072 жыл бұрын
Fabulous fabulous work and great content thanks 👏😎🇮🇪
@HenriqueRLima-vz7ny2 жыл бұрын
Even if people could figure out what's going on in the calibration process and start doing it themselves, Apple is so passionately focused on keeping that ability away from the end user that they'd likely change it in an instant once they found out
@1711512 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update, I always enjoy your "calling out Apple's bullshit" videos :)
@leobreysse72812 жыл бұрын
Hello Hugh ! I work in AASP. Screws are here to be replaced. This is not for a person who lose a screw. In an iPhone, if we unscrew, it goes to the trash and we must replace the screw for a brand new one.
@caspernicus58222 жыл бұрын
That's incredibly wasteful
@leobreysse72812 жыл бұрын
@@caspernicus5822 in fact there is a little amount of thread lock on every screw. If a screw is removed, she can’t hold the same and she’s gonna go away with the vibrations of the phone and with the daily use. When you replace the screw, you replace the thread lock too so this phenomenon never happen. We have to use a torquedriver too. With my experience I can say this not happen so much with android phone causes their screw are bigger and can be tight stronger even if some have thread lock on too.
@HydrantTV2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about these screws. It is for technicians so they don't have to worry about how they should go. They are placed on this thing that you got exactly how they should go into the phone.
@Gin-v3m Жыл бұрын
I brought 2 of my iPhones to an Apple Store for batteries replacement and the technicians broke both of the phones. That’s how difficult it is to work on Apple phones even for Apple’s own technicians.