I don't understand Spooky's (feat. Pastra)

Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion is a very famous indie horror game that is beloved by many. However, I had a pretty hard time understanding why after I played it. So I sat down with Pastra, who loves Spooky's, to discuss the game and what makes it so special.
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[@smugbowkid9919]

At this point, Baddest and Pastra are just opposite sides of the same brain.

[@shadowstar37]

Yes now fanart must be made

[@johnk9727]

Now, who is the right brain and who is the left

[@shadowstar37]

@@johnk9727 baddest is left while pastra is right

[@liketrainslol420funni]

@@shadowstar37 two people,one Braincell

[@shadowstar37]

@@liketrainslol420funni two people one horror game

[@Future_Doggo]

I always enjoyed Spooky's more for the characters and lore than the actual game. And it makes alot more since when you learn it's meant to be a joke game that makes fun of jumpscares more than an actual horror game.

[@Future_Doggo]

Also, I have a crap ton of nostalgia for Coryxkenshin's playthrough of the game. So, thats a big a reason aswell.

[@J.NeiraAuthor]

For me it's the other way around. The atmosphere of Spooky's is charming in a way few other games manage to capture. There is beauty in the simplicity of going from one to the next, wondering what you're going to find.

[@dataexpunged93N15]

Me too! The specimens always reminded me of SCP! I love when parody games like this or Mortis Ghost's OFF are given bigger ideas and are more fleshed out by the audience than originally intended.

[@stanisdeadprobably]

specimen 6 pog

[@Lepersama]

@@dataexpunged93N15 OFF is a parody game?

[@Saltwater_Oasis]

At this point Pastra is just on a tour defending his favorite games to his friends

[@shipgirllover]

Spooky's biggest strength and weakness is that it's a **massive** playground of ideas. There's so many things that can be done with its own formula, but a lot of potential goes untapped in the end product, even with the last DLC that dropped a couple years back. Just the sheer amount of things that can be done makes this game so unique IMO.

[@reallycoolbird]

doll house was 2 years ago????

[@ascrinkleyfellow]

@@reallycoolbird Yes 😭

[@Crapartstudio]

​@@ascrinkleyfellow WHAT!? The steam page says it came out in october 2020 how tf has that much time passed already!?

[@mechamanw668]

Yeah I can agree. It's a game that could go well with workshop support is Akuma Kira still has plans on doing custom mansion builds

[@josephkeen7224]

A few things to note 1. The monster that you couldn’t tell what it was supposed to be is a reference to an Earthbound character that I believe is called Gygass 2. From my understanding the game is meant to be a satire of let’s player bait mascot horror. 3. I see where your coming from with the walking simulator aspect of the game, but the gameplay is very fun to me still because I find any form of chases in games fun. 4. Since Pastra brought up the DLC, I’ve heard that it gave people Lost In Vivo vibes, which is a Silent Hill inspired game that the developer made after Spookys. I haven’t played it yet, but I’d assume that even with the inspiration you can still get enjoyment without playing the Silent Hill games. Edit:some dumb grammar mistakes I noticed (like forgetting to put “vibes when first mentioning Lost In Vivo, I’m stupid.

[@captainniiue1977]

I'm so glad you mentioned Lost in Vivo! It's definitely my favorite horror game, and it really is a great game with a lot more of the silent hill inspired stuff that Karamari Hospital and Specimen 5 did. I hope Isaac plays it some day

[@ThePutridMoldyman]

The EarthBound character is called Giygas

[@ultrawinggaming9764]

Little fun fact. Specimen 8 Directly ties into the background lore of Lost in Vivo. He even name drops the big evil eldritch god from LiV in the Dollhouse DLC

[@mechamanw668]

Yeah the DLCs definitely go a bit more seriously in the horror department, which is something I like

[@reececonnor526]

Pastra’s character looks like he’ll fit perfectly in spooky’s it would be cool the room could have a fun halloween theme and tone

[@shitpostersingracia2931]

I feel that his mechanic would be some variation of a hide and seek type game while being in a really dark environment

[@reececonnor526]

Maybe you’re in a halloween themed costume shop and to hide you have to put a outfit on to blend in

[@shitpostersingracia2931]

@@reececonnor526 ooooooh yea, trying to blend with the mannequins

[@reececonnor526]

Yeah you strip the outfits off the mannequin’s and wear them to hide

[@shitpostersingracia2931]

@@reececonnor526 yea that would be sick. You could possibly throw the mannequins to the ground to lure Clyde so you could hide somewhere else

[@anauxieus]

Spooky’s is, as Phisnom put it, the Cookie Clicker of the horror genre. Watching the room number go up is satisfying.

[@superbreadysyoutubethingy8264]

Who’s gonna tell Baddest that the amnesia inspired specimen was the mermaid one and not the final boss? (It’s understandable since the final boss looks like a Grunt). Plus, idk if they’re going to read this, but since they’re a Creepypasta, I wonder how they’ll feel finding out the red face/final boss is based off of Red from NES Godzilla Creepypasta?

[@monolophosaurus]

The final boss is actually based off of Unit 731, look it up if you’re interested.

[@superbreadysyoutubethingy8264]

Yeah, you right. The final boss form is more-so tied with references to UNit 731, down to their Cat-Dos Entry. The base Specimen 9 form still is def based on Red though.

[@kidgamer896]

The editor said there sorry if they got it wrong

[@MarsMakes]

I love spookys so much so seeing this in my notifications kinda hurt me a little bit inside 💀

[@FuzzyLeaf456]

Same 💀💀💀

[@bru_boi]

You guys made me realize and find a whole new appreciation for the game after the "each monster is inspired by a different piece of media". Specimen 8 is my favorite and I now realize that the reason i like it so much is because of different mythical monsters like the wendigo. Thanks for pointing that out because i might play through the game again just because of that lol.

[@Lechgang]

I would play an entire game just based on Specimen 8 and its evil deer minions.

[@ToastBoastOfficial]

@@Lechgangplay Lost in Vivo! I’m pretty sure he makes an appearance in there and is part of the lore

[@GhoulyRooly]

I’m on the Pastra side, I love this game so much.

[@ChaosKid420]

I think the reason people like it is because it is a love letter to horror games because specimens like Bab (the one with the blade) are inspired by things like Pyramid head. It does this creatively enough that what they're inspired by isn't super obvious in looks alone usually so it has really good references yet really good original designs in almost every specimen. Also it is funny sometimes but usually pretty scary

[@amor1064]

One point that I think is very significant for me, is the subtle theming . Like deathtaker and the hidden lore of the cathastrophe behind Spooky's mansion.

[@skyrimlover777]

I just like its little bit of lore and its designs. It's cute, the monsters are neat, and it came out at the right time.

[@firedolphin7621]

I’d say the biggest problem with Spooky’s is the pacing being inconsistent and up to partial luck. I enjoyed the game when I played it, but what kept me as a fan for a long while was the specimens, the bits of lore, and general designs. This is partially why I feel Dollhouse and Karamari Hospital have pretty solid pacing. Still flawed but they work much better as a game due to them actually having proper pacing.

[@elliotnutella8044]

Always been a big fan of the game since it's release, mainly for some of the specimen designs (idc what everyone else says I will defend Specimen 2 till the day I die). However I do fully get why some people may dislike it, and this is a fun video that provides a neat other perspective on the game I've loved for years.

[@gatchafnaf2789]

Goop boy fan rise up!

[@DanDaFreakinMan]

Spooky got one thing most other game giants don't: charm. And I don't just say that in a cliche way. I do really mean it. It got a premise most horror games don't ever try and pulled it off very smoothly. EDIT: Also the base game is free. Yes. All of that 1,000 rooms goodness for free. Garten of Ban Ban, though also free, only lasts for about 10 minutes in comparison.

[@dejinnthedjinn5311]

Me personally, I like Spooky's because of its references and like the lore. Not Just with specimens but the rooms themselves can be fun references.

[@linkal_8097]

I can't believe th3badd3st is in a pastra video that's crazy

[@randomairbreathingman8927]

I feel like one thing that might have negatively impacted your view on the game is going through all 1000 rooms in a single playthrough. I dont particulary like most of walking simulators either, I didnt enjoy gameplay of bendy, or any other game similar to it, and if I went through all 1000 rooms at once, i surely wouldnt like spooky's as much as i do, but playing the game about 300 rooms at a time allowed me to go through it without getting bored, and content that comes after the main gamemode is indeed much more engaging.

[@kanyepepper9977]

I love the headcanon lore of Isaac begrudgingly conforming to modern lingo

[@MeemahSN]

Spooky’s is one of those games that I know I’ve never played, but is so familiar to me that I feel like I have at one point or another but have no memory of doing so

[@lavalord96]

Here's my take on it: I like it, and it's okay if you don't, like every game ever. Also most of the specimens like to reference other media, surprised you missed out on the inspirations. Like the first specimen is based on a glub glub from adventure time.

[@Angel_Kittichik]

As cool as SJM is as a concept is to me, I moreso align with what you think about the game more than I align with Pastra, and it also has to do with the very little experience I have in the types of media this game is a loveletter to. I will say as a personal comment, the conversation you two had was an eye opener for me, because I have a lot of the same feelings for other games that my friends enjoy as you do. I cannot for the life of me get into Monster Hunter, Fallout, or Red Dead Redemption because the aesthetics, gameplay, and story just does not align with my interests. I thought I was just being picky, but this made me feel better about me having those feelings. Thank you Badd3st and Pastra for giving me that self reflection.

[@a26lolheart]

This is the most chill argument ever

[@inkobsessedfreak5638]

Spooky's was a parody game that was good when it came out but kind of aged a tad due to parodying a bunch of common indie horror tropes at the time like creepy pastas, SCP fangames' general concept and Amnesia, most of which people had grown out of by now

[@majorghoul9017]

Honestly this is my same feeling about DOORS. Like it's cool and I like some of the characters, but it's just the same game and rooms every time with even less monsters than Spooky's. Hell, most of the entities in Doors are just gifs of a spooky face, like the gamemaker version of Spooky's. I get that it's the super early alpha of a game and I see lots of potential after all it's definitely the best roblox game in ages if not ever, but the entities need some more spice to them and maybe more than two puzzles could be nice in the future. At least all the Specimens in Spooky's are unique in style between eachother

[@horseplinko2992]

Fun fact about Specimen 10, it was based after the necromorphs in Dead Space and John Carpenter's The Thing

[@CaptWeedman4681]

Pov: when you say "I hate this game," but got 2000 hours in it

[@Th3Badd3st]

I don’t get it

[@CaptWeedman4681]

@@Th3Badd3st joke about you and pasta being a single person (same brain or however I should phrase it). It's like when u really love the game but it's crazy asf like a dark souls game or crazy toxic ex.

[@CaptWeedman4681]

@@Th3Badd3st also u made my day 😭🤣 I feel like a special lil snowflake 🥰

[@Th3Badd3st]

@@CaptWeedman4681 ohh pfft

[@Th3Badd3st]

@@CaptWeedman4681 sending u a *hug* :3

[@TheNightmareAngelYT]

This guy's tastes are so cold, it gives Yetis hypothermia.

[@fabikachu4836]

Personally I love the game but it sure is flawed. But thats also a part of its charm. I think thats the main appeal of the game... the charm and love for the horror community. Its strength definitely isn't the main gameplay but the creativity and just the passion from a time when indie games were sometimes simply made for fun. Its the same kind of appeal that some flashgames had that aren't great but simply feel like the dev just had fun with an idea. Plus I think the gameplay problem definitely got adressed in the hospital and doll house dlc. Its a kind of game that definitely won't work for everyone but is definitely special for those it clicks with. Its difficult to describe other than: "It just works for me"

[@dataexpunged93N15]

I feel like a lot of the intrigue comes from learning about the specimens and the mansion itself. I liked learning more about what the game had to offer, but I wish it expanded on this aspect more. I also wish the gameplay varied a bit more, but for what it is, I think it's rather enjoyable. The art style is also something I'd like to point out as interesting, I like how it juxtaposes cute, chunky designs with the creepy, horror designs. As with Mortis Ghost's OFF, the main pull of these games is style and story, while gameplay drags off a bit. Both games need more variety in the gameplay, as they get too easy/tedious at a certain point. I can't help but compare these two games in this aspect, since they are both parody games that have been given a deeper meaning than perhaps originally intended by the fan base- and I don't think that's a bad thing at all! I'd give it a 6.5/10 personally, and with improvements it could easily be better.

[@ADuckInBlack]

have you played karamari hospital or the dollhouse in spooky's? i think you'd particularly like the dollhouse, but idk. either way, good vid! i understand why you don't really like this game very much.

[@sharkpog2949]

Pastra is so happy all the time and it's amazing

[@laythontucker7978]

You guys should watch Wambu’s rating of all the specimens, it is somehow both the most serious and not serious take of all the dumb opinions he has. It is amazing

[@slorty4494]

Just dropping that discord notification sound in there was evil.

[@hunterculpepper1973]

Even in endless mode and the dlcs you just see more references

[@Insaniquangrybirds]

I’m kinda more on Pasta’s side… And I’m being enlightened on what I can do for my games in the future.

[@gliscornumber151]

I haven't watched the full video yet but I do want to ask, did you play the DLCs? Because they do give the game some much needed life and story

[@Xeorboom]

it is confusing but is way too underrated since it is scary (Tattletail and Zardy are the other 2) however I might like it so much because I like making weird risky manouvers in horror games

[@thesauce179]

13:54 Bruh moment in the gameplay

[@BasementDweller_]

Did you play The Hospital and The Doll house? There like full fledge games. Also I’m shocked that your not a big fan.

[@SlayinSaiyan]

Huggy was recently added in Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion endless mode

[@birdbonanza9407]

me when i purposefully spread misinformation

[@ascrinkleyfellow]

I'm sorry, but even as misinformation this is no-where close to believable

[@typervader]

Besides im pretty sure the devs dont even like poppy @@ascrinkleyfellow

[@white7076]

lost In Vivo also goes hard

[@gliscorpropagandaaccount1764]

Mr. Th3Badd3st have you ever played Rule of Rose?

[@inky1930]

It's my first time watching this channel...AND HEAR ME OUT WITH THIS CHARACTER!

[@crawfish_man]

1:55 ooohhh boy you're gonna regret that when you play pathologic

[@anxiousoptimism5517]

This is a nice discussion.

[@nazo87]

Honestly my favorite part of spookys jumpscare mansion is the story so yeh

[@loganpowers3875]

Also I'm working on a fan made document that expands on the lore and gameplay on old and new monsters in Spooky's Return 2. I might show it to the public but it'll take at least 3 years to finish and I've only completed 3/60 monsters.

[@loganpowers3875]

I feel you man, when I watched Treasure Planet for the 10th time I couldn't for the life of me figure out what's so good about it, in my eyes its' just a worse version of the 1970's version, in all areas.

[@elliotsturtplus340]

Specimen 7 is legit just gigus from Earthbound

[@xXAlexOrWhateverXx]

i really appreciate that Baddest takes time to see other perspectives instead of being brash and calling people wrong. It's, sadly, refreshing on the internet.

[@BunnyJolf]

What do you go by as I can't tell

[@jr9529]

as much as I do love this game I'd say I'd have to agree with your beginning statement. I did find my heart beating a *little* faster actually playing all three games as opposed to watching it, but it's certainly not the scariest/best thing ever. Certainly charming tho

[@Glitchmouse2]

A 3d game on gamemaker is still something

[@newerboomerangmiaro7778]

I mean specimen 8 is honestly a really good specimen too

[@WOKEchair]

313 gonna be Doors 💀

[@ray_games9660]

Not gonna lie, this is one of my favortie games.

[@WelloBello]

I think Spooky’s pacing can definitely be weird and disjointed. Especially with what monsters come out when. Endless mode fixes that, mostly.

[@punnyperson4663]

Basically all classics have been beaten into the dirt so we can't enjoy shit nowadays

[@throwingimps803]

Interview

[@CEOofAutism]

i love spookys

[@Freddyfazbendy5901]

I love the girl named spooky, i date her, started when I was same age as her, still dating, I'm 16 now

[@Shamdel]

SAMEEEEEE

[@The_Kiwi_1]

HI

[@Christiantheforestdweller]

Smash or pass, Isaacs avatar

[@timothytosser288]

This game good

[@glitchedsouls7593]

The main appeal of the game would have to be the characters designs and the story split through the game/DLCs. The biggest flaw is the gameplay

[@cherry__Soda]

The base game isn’t the funnest, however, the dlc is great. Play both of them. The doll house is incredible, and my personal favorite

[@RETIRED867]

idk what i am going to say so...hi

[@Zantorm]

hi

[@ethangnasher3848]

I mean... If you play the vanilla version of course you'd not be impressed compared to the house hd renovation with all the DLCs that do whacky shit that break with the monotony of the mainline playthrough.

[@the_real_null_archives]

Tldr cynical youtuber nitpicks classic game because they don't understand it

[@thesoygirl557]

6 is literally a png

[@numbcrep]

No hd made it 3d

[@isaacweloveyou]

Don’t mean this as in a rude way but spooky isn’t actually supposed to be spooky, she just wanted to be spooky to scare people since ya know,, jumpscare mansion..???

[@areyasquiddinme]

shut up

[@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943]

The game seems meh. the charcters are definally the intrest points. I have better things to play tbh

[@EasyCheesy233]

Karamari Hospital, the dlc, is way better.

[@WoofInationArchive]

the games like a 5/10 I don’t get the fuss

[@Rambel10]

Are you a furry?

[@fossfox]

The thing about parody in an interactive medium is that regardless of how poignant the critique of the idea is (and Spooky's does not offer any poignant commentary lmao), if it's still not fun to play, nobody is going to like it. If your idea of lovingly ribbing a genre is making a game where you literally just walk forward, you're kind of wasting your own time and everyone else's.

[@livinlikeeli6785]

Here's the thing, a lot of people do indeed love the game

[@dataexpunged93N15]

Idk I thought it was pretty fun man, but you do you ig

[@cordyceps7531]

I don’t get it either. Was kinda bored watching Markiplier play it.

[@areyasquiddinme]

play it yourself then.

[@aboojedda3044]

you islamophobic

[@weirdcakes304]

?

[@liviwaslost]

What?

[@AdaTheWatcher]

Islam isn't even mentioned in the video.

[@janko1]

this game look lame tbh

[@mindsweeper2039]

Then specimen 8 shows up. Here's the thing about the wendigo reject. It travels through walls, but it's speed is dramatically increased when traveling through walls, unlike specimen 4 or 11.