I'm a Sociopath with Autism | Anti-social personality disorder (ASPD) and autism.

In this episode, psychologist Dr. Becky Spelman sits down with Cassy, who courageously shares her life story and struggles as a psychopath living with autism. Cassy opens up about the unique challenges she faces due to her dual diagnoses, offering an intimate look at her daily life and the impact of her conditions on her relationships and personal growth.
Cassy's story explains the often misunderstood world of psychopathy and autism, challenging common prejudices and misconceptions. She discusses how these conditions intersect and the strategies she has developed to navigate the complexities of her mental health. Through her openness, Cassy provides a nuanced perspective on the realities of living with multiple mental health conditions.
Throughout the interview, Cassy reflects on her personal journey, emphasising the importance of self-awareness, acceptance, and the support systems that have been crucial in her life.
Her insights offer a deeper understanding of the intricacies of mental health and provide hope and inspiration to others facing similar challenges.
This episode not only elevates the experiences of those living with psychopathy and autism but also serves as an inspiring testament to the power of empathy, resilience, and the human capacity for change. Tune in to hear Cassy's story and gain a new perspective on mental health and resilience.
Dr. Becky Spelman is a top Psychologist in London, Becky is the Clinic Director for Private Therapy Clinic which has clinic's based all around central London including; Harley Street, Wigmore Street, Bank, Earls Court & Canary Wharf. Becky uses Psychodynamic Therapy, Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT), Eye Movement Desensitisation Reprocessing, Dialectical Behaviour Therapy (DBT) and Mindfulness to treat a range of difficulties with a particular interest in Borderline Personality Disorder and the difficulties that go with this condition such as relationship difficulties, anxiety, depression, low-self esteem, social anxiety, fear of public speaking, fear of intimacy, interpersonal difficulties, anger, body image issues, eating disorders and addictions.
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[@Developinglandk]

Sexual trauma will also cause this. My sister was assaulted at 5. She is now 21 she has autism and antisocial personality disorder as well as psychopathy. She is high functioning but you can tell. Her having this disorder also makes her a target for more attacks which makes her feel less for herself and others. She doesn’t have empathy or know how to love. She doesn’t feel much outside of anger. I have compassion for her because she is hurting and is in so much pain.

[@Monipenny1000]

That is so sad for your sister. I am so sorry for the things that happened to her and how they have affected her.

[@iGame3D]

"Pushed down stairs, spit on, gum put in the hair" and it's the VICTIM who is diagnosed as "anti-social"...how broken is our society?

[@karentonks7581]

Exactly. Check out Lucy johnstone and the Power,threat, meaning framework which is an alternative to psychiatric diagnostics. It is more about human distress

[@snowredsnow666]

Very

[@AmoebaInk]

Yeah, I have a lot of issues with ASPD as a diagnosis. It's just the criminality half of the psychopathy checklist and often ignores the underlying why people act out, which for many people is trauma. Psychopaths on the other hand have visible signs on brain scans. We're born, sociopaths are socialized. But a traumatized psychopath is more likely to lash out. I was bullied, but over all had a healthy, loving home life. So I'm a psychopath without ASPD, and the DSM doesn't acknowledge that I exist.

[@septleaves8521]

Obviously if she wasn’t mean and hurtful and did harm and all the other bad things to other people that won’t have happened. Many innocent good kind people are also subjected to these kinds of things but do not end up harming and being hurtful to others and they are not responsible for the mental illness of others. I feel sorry for her victims.

[@AmoebaInk]

@@septleaves8521 You've clearly never dealt with school bullies. You don't have to be mean, just exist or be a little weird. They will pounce.

[@ChocolateAutizzy]

Thanks for interviewing me 😊 Also, for those of you who think that im lying about my SA, the court case is public record (you can google it) and one of the men that assaulted me is still in jail .

[@unicorntears6514]

You have a beautiful soul, baby girl, and you are so much more than your diagnosis. Sending you love, for today, tomorrow, and always ❤️

[@arbor-sq4jk]

im a male autistic same as u..youre not unattractive like me also...im also a psychopath....a blind world is not bad thing btw.....eye for an eye is the only way to do things

[@dr.beckyspelman]

A big thank you to Cassy for being interview. Feel free to communicate with her here.

[@radioraheem1555]

Looking good Cassy!

[@silvermine2033]

Thank you for sharing!

[@Kazemijazi]

I have the utmost regard for this person because, in spite of her struggles, she has worked hard on herself to become a beautiful person. With respect.

[@punk86]

I went through bullying myself. But i ended up bullying back and being verbally abusive.I had Conduct disorder. Neglected at home with an emotional unavailable mother. I ended up with Quiet BPD and ASPD. I connect with the lady in the video a lot.

[@rongike]

but to heal you have to heal the trauma, so I don't get the point of handing out all these diagnoses where they just deal with coping and managing symptoms and act like it's some kind of cure.

[@mr.r2362]

​@@rongike Is healing trauma a one second process that involves no pain? It can take years or decades just to understand what happened to you objectively. Every person needs a combination of talk and somatic therapies, with a supportive community to help them feel they aren't the only one struggling with their emotional issues. Last time I checked, we live in a selfish, individualistic society where we walk around suspicious, stressed and resentful 24/7. A system that keeps the average person in survival mode isn't exactly ideal for helping misunderstood outcasts make sense of the chaos that is tormenting them on the inside. People are more than happy to demonize you further and provoke more reactions, since most people come from households and consume media that encourages conflict escalation as the only real "solution" to anything in life.

[@rongike]

@@mr.r2362 I would say ideally it's finally releasing the pain that one had been conditioned to pretend isn't there, but yeah obviously psychology is still in its infancy, so we don't have the tools or the resources to properly heal people. I just meant it's annoying how society makes people sick and then gives them a label and makes them feel like they're the problem.

[@calimorales9880]

@@rongike B/c different strategies work better for different disorders, even if they all come from trauma. Like dbt works rlly well for bpd (most of the time at least)

[@lisacastano9274]

I love the quote that she said "an eye for an eye just makes the whole world blind,"

[@Inkbkank.2029]

Nah 💅🏾get revenge revenge is ur friend ♏️🦂😂

[@Thecodexnoir]

@@Inkbkank.2029YEP!! JUSTICE!! Revenge shall be MINE!! 🔥

[@MercySaint]

As a 46 yr old woman that has suffered in silence for decades…. Thank you for your courage, I wish I had the same courage when I was your age to accept myself and not just ignore it. My professional career is pristine but my mental health is in shambles. Now that I’m almost 50 I’m finding it harder to live like this, you took care of yourself, embraced it and helping others by your example. Keep up the good fight, for us that are fighting this in silence.

[@SonDialer]

Ill say one thing. Her honesty and intelligence is refreshing.

[@Loveteyah]

why wouldn’t she be intelligent?

[@HebaLona]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂stupid as hell she’s just pretending cause sure she don’t have personality

[@sleepy6476]

@@Loveteyah some people aren't?

[@loverainthunder]

​@Loveteyah Yeah, I saw that too.

[@SonDialer]

@@loverainthunder 🤦🏽‍♂️reachin

[@TaniaSeabock]

The primary emotion of a person with psychopathy is rage (lacking remorse). In contrast, an autistic person's primary emotion is often frustration. While I am not an expert, I strongly believe she does not have Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD). She appears to show guilt and remorse over her past behavior towards people who bullied her. Her apparent lack of emotion could be due to dissociation from abuse. I bet she is misdiagnosed. My heart goes out to her.

[@BomberTv94]

of course she is

[@4LMOE]

Agree

[@modelactressiv]

@@BomberTv94 absolutely agreed

[@TranscendingTrauma]

ASPD is called antisocial personality disorder because they do not comply with social norms. Both sociopaths and psychopaths have antisocial traits. Sociopaths are created. Her past traumas made her untrusting of society. It makes sense that the nervous system (including the central nervous system, which includes the brain) and psychological level that the being would no longer trust in society, after it has proven to the person to be untrustworthy.

[@twigzter8684]

1000% agree with you on this

[@justthefacts8872]

Your honesty is so wonderful. I have a couple of relatives who are neurodivergent. One is a sociopath. He, unlike you, was most likely born that way. You understand perception so well. Thank you for heightening your awareness about your condition. I will tell you that ASPD is not as rare as one would think. However, being as aware as you are is RARE and INCREDIBLE. Your honesty is so refreshing. It must be so hard to work on empathy when you have difficulty actually feeling the emotion. It must require so much effort. You have given insight into my own relative. Thank you so much. I just realized that you gave the other interview that you had your hair out.

[@karenholmes6565]

Emotions are very complicated for some autistic people. I am not a psychiatrist, so I don't know what sort of criteria they can separate out antisocial personality disorder and autism, but I wonder at that diagnosis to be honest. I say that because alexithymia is a real thing for some autistic people. We do not know what we are feeling, it does not mean we aren't feeling anything at all. What she is describing sounds more like that to me than ASPD. Perhaps she cannot identify the feeling "love", or she thinks that the feeling of love is something other than what it is because she does not experience it in a neurotypical manner. The way she describes wanting to feel love, feeling distraught that her friend would be sad that she did not feel love, that says she's having emotions to me, particularly empathy for other people's feelings. I am autistic and I don't feel jealousy. I understand jealousy from a cognitive point of view, but I do not feel it myself. Because jealousy is seen as a negative emotion no one would think I had a personality disorder because I do not relate to being jealous, some might think I am a good person because I do not experience jealousy, but that's just the way my autistic brain works. My point is that I think her diagnosis is possibly wrong. Autistic women often get a ton of bad diagnosis along with autism. I feel so much empathy for her childhood. So many of us experienced many of the things she discusses. I think that I survived my childhood because my parents really liked me. They didn't just tolerate me because I was their kid. They weren't concerned about my autistic traits. I was just left alone to be myself and my dad thought I was brilliant, my mom thought i was good company. Because my family loved me, supported me, stood up for me, I felt safe at home. It was everywhere else that was terrible. I wanted to make a note that she talked about her 3rd grade teacher alerting her parents there was something off about her. I keep hearing that same thing over and over again, it is the 3rd grade teacher, not the 4th, not the 2nd grade, the 3rd. I had the same experience of my 3rd grade teacher telling my parents I was retarded. She was abusive about my autistic traits. But this was in the 1970s.

[@petralea]

ASD/OCD/CPTDS and alexithimia (with her disfunctinal parents), I am sorry for ths young girl, she is inteligent and self aware but the world failed her

[@Baptized_in_Fire.]

Can relate. I have autism and ADHD. I have traits, but not full blown pd, of narcissism and sociopathy. I think this is more closely what's going on with her. Not exactly, ofc, but similarly.

[@REGjr]

12:07 “Why did you guys just let me do stuff like that“ - to watch you get in trouble, duh. Sister is obviously the beneficiary of parental favoritism and interviewee is the scapegoat. All pediatric diagnosis does is reinforce the parent’s savior complex by confirming defect in the child. The problem is not her autism but her mother’s untreated personality disorder. Even today she’s still blaming the victim

[@petralea]

Somehow I catch that too, the parents are the ignighting issue here and it is all blames on this poor lady who didnt have better coping skills to navigate this mess, this whole thing is ASD/OCD with a looooot of trauma, alexithymia

[@dann736]

Did you see the interview chocolate autizzy did with her mom? That woman is a complete narcissist .

[@petralea]

@@dann736 I just found it, omg, the girl needs to seek 2nd opinion, she is no sociopath but people around her have a lot of unresolved issues and are constantly gastlighting her; she wasnt lying in a pathological sense, she was dealing with the SA the way the child knows how to deal with it, trying to protect her family. This is so sad that even medical professionals cannot help her .

[@REGjr]

@@dann736 I didn't finish watching this one because I'd already let a couple of things in particular trigger me. AFAICT the only way to end up autistic is with a developmentally delayed or arrested mother. So that's narcissistic or autistic and it's all intergenerational trauma. Came back to finish this one so might look for it after. You know the theme of the child who wants to kill the same gendered parent and get down with the opposite gendered parent appears in mythology throughout time, not just in Sophocles' Oedipus. So what that says to me is weak parents have always competitively projected their own insecurities onto one of their children and punished that kid for the parents' own issues. Psychiatry betrays us because society really does need its scapegoats. Autistic naivete / gullibility is usually a mischaracterization of the empathy we are said not to have by someone who's just taken advantage of it. It's so sick.

[@Baptized_in_Fire.]

Insightful

[@wordswords2094]

That is so sad. How many people are traumatized by childhood? In times past, you would know your neighbours and clan, clad, tribe....someone would have stuck up for this wounded soul. Heal on!

[@dr.beckyspelman]

So many people sadly.

[@fruitypopwhickle6806]

Not true. Abuse is not new. In fact, it was more hidden in families in the past. Social media and technology have just exposed the moral rot. Yes, she deserved to be protected. It's sad..

[@iGame3D]

Nonsene, in the past people were outrageously bigoted and racist. You had polio and couldn't walk? They picked on you. You had down syndrome, they bully you. If you were atutistic, they drove you to suicide. Irish kids would brutalize other children who just pronounced the letter H differently.

[@calimorales9880]

Abuse oftten happened in the past, and sometimes it was even more normalized. You just didn't see it

[@plusone8015]

I had a mother like yours, abusive, delusional and violent. Hell can start very early in life. I am glad you are self-aware and very honest. So few neurotypical people can say that.

[@isiren1976]

You've got great insight. My son is Neurodivergent and something else going on...(he's very complex and an Enigma). He's also had alot of trauma. Sounds like you have alot of Cognitive Empathy but of course, lack of emotional empathy. Must be so difficult to not feel love etc. Hats off to you for opening up, for healing and for being a survivor. ❤❤

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Thanks so much, I’ll ensure Cassy sees your comments.

[@isiren1976]

@@dr.beckyspelman Thank you

[@beo6211]

Psychopathy is on a spectrum. That's so interesting. Thanks for this interview and the honesty shared. Very courageous.

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Thanks so much for watching I appreciate it a lot.

[@AmoebaInk]

It is. Psychopath, sociopath, and ASPD are all slightly different in their definition however. I'm what Dr. Fallon calls a prosocial psychopath, but I score low on criminality, so I do not qualify as having ASPD. Nor am I a sociopath. I follow Cassy and her case is a bit more complex.

[@karenholmes6565]

@@AmoebaInk Psychopathy is different than antisocial personality disorder. Psychopaths are born. People with antisocial personality disorder develop it as a part of their environment and their genetic. Or to put it another way, people with psychopathy almost always align with the criteria of cluster b personality disorders, but not all people with cluster b personality disorders are psychopaths. Luckily most of them are not. They can feel empathy, Psychopaths do not feel much of anythng at all.

[@AmoebaInk]

@@karenholmes6565 That's a decent summary. Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are socialized into repressing their empathy. ASPD is pretty much just the criminality half of the Hare psychopathy list. You could diagnose someone with ASPD without them being a psychopath or sociopath. Slightly may have been understatement. There's overlap between the three categories, but they are not the same thing. For psychopaths, I really believe our key trait is low emotional affect. Hard to feel emotional empathy, guilt, etc. when you don't feel strong emotions in general.

[@chimkinNuggz]

Great now every teenage girl with blue hair is gonna claim shes a psychopath on tiktok

[@sarahcouture24]

This girl is extremely likeable to me. I enjoy listening to her thought process. She's actually pretty relatable to me.

[@michelleinservice6400]

It seems to me the mother had serious anger issues herself and seriously abused her child physically and mentally. The autism may have been minor. Even neglected her, that’s how most sociopaths and psychopaths form. Emotional neglect with physical abuse. It’s so sad. And yet the loyalty to her mom still remains. It’s horrible. Such a smart beautiful young woman.

[@mb3608]

What a lovely woman, being that open and vulnerable about what it feels to be emotionaly numb. Having to have your own moral compass build by believe and logic is a difficult thing to do, especially if you don't have this (i don't even know how to call it) societal feeling , an emotional guideline leading you through life. I think she is coping very well with what life threw at her and I hope she finds those connections she is looking for.

[@teetrea2688]

I'm an autistic black woman too and relate alot to your story. While my background isn't quite as intense, similar themes, just less in intensity. All the same diagnoses. Thanks so much for sharing your story.

[@DisturbedBurger]

ASPD is manufactured by a systemic failure to intervene, leaving the victim to cope with hopelessness, powerlessness and injustice..... it's blame shifting. What do you expect....forgiveness, and, gratitude for another day of life? Because how dare we brood in contempt for the world when we wake to a nightmare every day, and told the nightmare is all in our heads and told our attitudes are the problem....right? Here's a classic antisocial remark: FK THAT! If the systems fail to intervene we need a legal case for resorting to violence to assert boundaries and self respect.

[@micahbinns2740]

ASPD doesn't mean you can't live a decent life

[@garyr1934]

This woman is a REMARKABLE To come from her darkest corners to this peak level of self awareness about her struggles with abuse and mental illness I am very very familiar to sociopathy I married someone who chose to go the other direction From almost identical life circumstances Yet she went the destructive route Damaging severely her children in the process of trying to destroy me This woman is a beacon for those suffering with personality disorders I wish her the absolute BEST that this life can now bring her Slow process But she’ll make it happen I have total faith in her ❤️

[@tomhollingworth]

Thank you both so much for this conversation, and thank you Cassy for your openness here. I find a lot relatable in what you have talked about. I wish you the very best with your life onward

[@unicorntears6514]

Such an articulate and insightful young lady. I hope one day she’s able to fully heal and live the life she always deserved to have. Thank you both ❤️

[@dr.beckyspelman]

Thanks so much for watching.

[@loverainthunder]

Articulate 😅oops the prejudxxx leaked out.

[@giggles1219]

EXACTLY lol​@@loverainthunder

[@giggles1219]

"Articulate." That sounds familiar. I've been getting that all of my life. Funny thing is, my wh*te friends who sound just like me don't get the same back handed compliment. Us coloured folk not 'posed ta' talk real proper-like. We's 'posed to talk like we's fresh off massa's plantation picking bags a' cotton.🤭🤭🤭

[@annaburson1]

I don’t see anti social. Anti social people don’t apologize for getting terms wrong beforehand. I think she’s misdiagnosed. Autism yes. Antisocial I don’t see. I’ve never heard an antisocial person apologize sincerely before they do something. That shows quite a bit of consciousness. Autism and trauma can explain her emotional suppression issues. “It hurts me that I hurt her.” I just don’t see it. She wanted to be honest out of the goodness of her heart. She wanted to make her friend happy and she wanted to be authentically connected. If she reads this and has other explanations I’m all ears.

[@Tina-ms7mb]

With life experiences and self awareness/ self réflection, ppl with ASPD Can understand in a cognitive way the damage their actions and words Can do. It often asks a lot of efforts in therapy and maturity to but it's still Can be possible. You should see some videos of Kanika Batra a diagnosed sociopath too.

[@_asantesana_squashbanana_]

100%, you can not be diagnosed with both. They are oxymoronic.

[@delairdelair5526]

Thank you for your honesty Cassie. You are an amazing woman. Beautiful, very resilient and intelligent. Wish you the best ❤️

[@sarahcouture24]

Both sociopaths and empaths are absolutely trauma responses! You are definitely someone who sees the truth of things.

[@sarahcouture24]

This gal is super smart and self aware. Very interesting individual too. I wish i could be her friend.

[@EmilyMcMaster]

I wish I could be her friend too. I relate heavily. It's so hard existing in a world full of extroverts and Cassy is refreshing and hard to come by.

[@autumnbrooke1721]

You can have these diagnoses and be a decent and wonderful human being . Not saying what my diagnoses are , but this is super relatable. Thank you for sharing and being authentic❤ . Wish you so much healing

[@elliebrooks3611]

I am not a medical professional anything. Disclaimer, but I believe the mind is senior to the brain, and there is plasticity, and there is healing in meditation.

[@sarahcouture24]

I agree with your psychiatrist about all cluster b personality disorders being a result of cptsd in childhood, and the outcome of psychic fragmentation in early life. It totally makes sense to me as a borderline.

[@mojo212]

As a clinician, i wish we can go back to saying true things like suicidal ideation and killing/hurting self. We as a whole need to say these words and know the gravity of them instead of softening them so much that we are blinded.

[@melliecrann-gaoth4789]

I’m also thinking that would it be possible that another psychiatrist- using ICD instead of the DSM would diagnose ASD and cPTSD.

[@petralea]

Totally, i am horrified after watching this, CPTSD is a real thing

[@panelolli]

Psychiatrist should not diagnose cause they are the most likely to misdiagnose and destroy peoples lives

[@NopeNotTodaySatan]

I have CPTSD, it’s a nightmare

[@philly8184]

@@melliecrann-gaoth4789 💥 exactly. The ICD is so much more realistic than the DSM. All Cluster B disorders are simply trauma response.

[@cristinaroe2166]

Thank you so much for your interview. It was great to hear your story and experiences. You are SO brave. You are loveable. As a woman who still isn't diagnosed, my heart goes out to you. All the best for your future. Though it is sometimes hard to believe, God has a plan for your life. 🙏

[@lidu6363]

I am really excited to watch this, the perception of these two conditions is often so skewed! I am especially curious because I thought these were not compatible... Maybe it's just because the diagnostic criteria can be interpreted so subjectively.

[@PatricyaT]

This was a great interview!

[@michelleinservice6400]

It seems to me the mother had serious anger issues herself and seriously abused her child physically and mentally. The autism may have been minor. Even neglected her, that’s how most sociopaths and psychopaths form. Emotional neglect with physical abuse. It’s so sad. And yet the loyalty to her mom still remains. It’s horrible. Such a smart beautiful young woman. AND you showed so much JOY when you talked about your friend.

[@fazek4096]

Yes empathy is a trauma response, I'm 39 and am still working very hard to over come codependency

[@gooftroopg2623]

It's a delusion

[@REGjr]

It’s only ASPD because young adults’ autistic developmental delay is unacknowledged. A young adult with autism has a developmental incapacity to enter into contracts (which includes marriage). Psychiatry insists there’s no such thing as an adult-onset personality disorder but refuses to diagnose them until adulthood because they’re obviously accommodating autistic developmental delay. Doing so in conjunction with pretending ASD is a pediatric-only diagnosis conceals the mechanism of behavioral heritability. It’s beyond despicable. The pathogenic etiology of autism (and SIDS) is postpartum psychosis (wish for the child to become “unborn“). Narcissistic and autistic women are prone to postpartum because they’re developmentally unprepared. BPD and ASPD are obvious potential sequelae of predisposing ASD (see Gates, Zuckerberg, Musk et al) and motherhood is clearly a sufficiently aggravating stressor. Whether psychiatry doesn’t know this or knows it and conceals it from patients they’ve discredited their smug selves IMO. Antipsychotics are not contraindicated in ASD but believe me they’re killing undiagnosed autistics at least a decade early with those and misdiagnoses of early-onset dementia. Prescribing them off label to boost anti-depressants in the general population is even inducing some of the autistic catatonia they’re misdiagnosing as well.

[@wheatstonebridge]

I like Cassy. She seems cool. I enjoyed listening to your story and learning something new.

[@siobhanrachel2969]

Hey, what youre doing is extremely helpful and I wish you the best!❤

[@mdldle6348]

@ChocolateAutizzy thank you, you are so bright and you help to see (for me) the "other side", however, I am taken back by your interviewer, how not connected to your narration (e.g. - "you teach internet language to me" - focus on her, "did you talk to this friend again" - lack of understanding questions, thus questioning the first thing at hand). However, YOUR research and presentation makes it so much clearer for us who are fortunate to feel positive feelings. Hope God will give you so much love in your life even thouth at the moment you would not understand what it means. Your testimony is just precious and amazing, thank you. ❤

[@Aurora.Consciously_979]

OMG 😲 Great videos truly insightful. Extremely brave Cassie 👏

[@jessicahoene5573]

Always a pleasure to see and hear Cassy. 💛

[@bethlovelace7395]

My third is dx autistic, schizoid personality disorder, OCD and is trans at 22. Learning to qork WITH them instead of against them was the BEST thing for everyone involved. Its been a wild ride ;)

[@JuliaShalomJordan]

What a beautiful, self aware soul. 💞🙏🏻💞

[@danielhernandez-fo3mj]

Your talk about masking your lack of ability to feel like that is deff in line with me and my bpd .... I do alot of things like this (almost pro enabler in my younger years) I just dident want to lose friends and did/do it to make sure when I'm having out with peole they have a good time and view of me .... personality disorders are hard when it comes to social coping

[@petralea]

Look into undiagnosed AuADHD with a loot of trauma princled in, in adult (it might explain a lot)

[@BipolarCourage]

I had mutism as a child & sometimes as an adult. "Selective" is bit misleading as I wasn't choosing not to speak. Mutism & non-verbal are not the same things. Mutism is when can understand language & speak otherwise, in safer situations.

[@emilia8620]

Selective mutism is more that the child is selective of who they talk to.

[@j_vasey]

I’ve only recently been diagnosed with many of the same diagnoses, I think something that diagnoses at 45 leads to grief of a life that one could’ve had. I’m thankful for this video, I’m so pleased she was diagnosed younger, I hope this leads to a more fulfilled life. I was bullied for similar reasons, but as a ginger the discrimination is ok, it seems. So many things she says reminds me of me so much, thankfully my children have correct diagnoses the eldest being Asperger’s (high functioning ASD) my middle child selective mute.

[@suzannamawson]

Great interview

[@LJ-dr6xrtdrt6d6]

Interviewer is ignorant. The girl has ASPD that was initially misdiagnosed as autism. Cluster B is not PTSD; that's a rumour some spread on internet; not in DSM. The "love" described was more akin to narcissistic supply.

[@plywood7894]

She definitely has autism. You don’t walk on your tiptoes unless you are on the spectrum.

[@sarahcouture24]

The not being able to lie or keep secrets, i believe thats an autistic thing. Im like that too. Dont even tell me about someones surprise birthday party because ill spill the beans

[@asher-xp]

I honestly wonder if I could be a sociopath because of how people have reacted to things I’ve said or how I’ve looked a situations. And the choices I’ve made with the logic behind each decision has raised a few brows. I never try to hurt people or do it out of malice tho. It’s more- I don’t consider others in the forefront of my mind and it takes active practice to have empathy in some areas. Most often times I’m not empathetic and just tolerant. I’ve been diagnosed with ASD. So, it could just very well be that. But I can sympathize with some of this discussion. Thanks for having it. Your story is so much like mine. I think I should really look more into this and discuss where my therapist is after working with me. I hope I’m ready to hear the answers. 😨

[@asher-xp]

Teachers noticed I was different before my Mom. God bless my luck for having some of the teachers that I did (and very abusive other ones *one locked me in a closet saying I was violent*). I remember one teacher specifically who made scheduled naps for me. During quiet reading time she let me go to the beanbag to sleep for that 30 minutes. Then when I woke up she told me about what was read and we moved onto math. Granted, I was already reading well above my level in kindergarten, so it wasn’t really needed for me to be awake.

[@UrDominioN]

Yes, we have to keep in mind that the studies have only been done once you’re inside the criminal system. there has never been a study on psychopaths that are out in the world. Much love

[@janebyers4923]

I was listening to a podcast once who interviewed a professor who was a sociopath . He explained his lack of feelings. In his office someone died and the other faculty was so sad collecting funds for flowers. Talking about going to the funeral. He however felt nothing.

[@sarahcouture24]

This is a very interesting video, i like this gal a lot.

[@user-si3fr7kc2s]

Could this be a misdiagnosis? She doesn’t steal.

[@Esmeralda-lh4oh]

We have no idea what she's done in her past we only know the woman she is today 😂 she's in her 30s a lot of people change when they get older 😅

[@visionvixxen]

I know a lot of kids w ASD that need stim items or become attached and will take things that aren’t theirs because they can’t mentally let go.

[@mauiswift6391]

She seems quite forthright to me be intelligent and articulate.

[@hurricane_valence]

I think she was misdiagnosed. I was diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder. And if you're familiar with the criteria, it's not exactly the best type of criteria same with the PC RL.

[@pinklotus9684]

As another late diagnosed ASD woman I can relate to some of the situations she talked about.

[@skippy6462]

I wished my Mum would have been diagnosed decades ago. It may have given her a better quality of life, and spared a generation of children and grandchildren from the emotional pain and torment 😢

[@user-lt6vj4gq4l]

What a lovely lady …. I think you are great ❣️🥰

[@tribalistaforca]

Just remember: psychiatrist will assist you in developing as many disorders as you want for them to diagnose… that’s what keeps them in business..🤣🤣🤣

[@FindingGod365]

Yeh. Exactly.

[@IdeaGrazer]

Only you know what it is like to be you and it helps to educate yourself. A bit of audacity helps as well.

[@kr3642]

My theory is that the system knows about the autism to PD pipeline and doesnt do anything about it in a preventative sense bc theyre making too much money off of the misdiagnosis journey, the for profit prisons, and laudering money through homeless service charities.

[@zeeb116]

Take a shot Everytime she says “and they beat me” 😤 I’m Caribbean as well THIS is why… this why I’m pro therapy until the fucking wheels fall off. Missing ALL the damn signs of “somethings wrong” and “my child needs more” because she’s stuck in survival mode 😟😔 lord heal our society heal our communities!

[@user-lt6vj4gq4l]

Gosh what a terrible time you’ve described ❕ I’m sure there’s not a single thing wrong with…. you in terms of the categorization ❕ Sadly most people in this society are not authentic & navigating through school days is often difficult for most . I think you’re completely normal …. enjoy your life . Be kind to yourself & others ❣️🥰

[@mjchristie100]

Respect ❤

[@novastariha8043]

“Articulate and Beautiful” Woman. ….

[@albatjay6841]

Respect others and yourself, then you will be respected. Two way journey. Both sides. Know that .

[@ashleypearson7848]

NEVER GO TO THE PSYCH WARD! IT WAS ONE OF THE WORST EXPERIENCES IVE EVER HAD!! NO.JOKE IT MAKES THINGS SO MUCH WORSE!

[@midnightcat6116]

Why does the screen say she’s a psychopath when in the interview she says she’s a diagnosed sociopath and that she’s not a psychopath?

[@janebyers4923]

They are interchangeable

[@IdeaGrazer]

@@janebyers4923 No they are not!

[@IdeaGrazer]

Because some people are still in the dark ages and never read a book. They get all their information from youtube and instagram.

[@ameliorategrey]

51-50. A danger to yourself and others.

[@mattmarrin8457]

I'm A.C.C. A.S.D. CPTSD. B.F.R.D. Possibly personality disorder. Dealing with all myself. Progress, health and happiness. Plently of the "professionals" in the "medical" and "mental health" communities are CLUELESS!! Learned more on youtube from many groups in 6 months. Compared to 20 years of councilng and meds. What a waste of time and energy. Been healing myself. While the US sad sickcare system is running around in circles for $ not their patents.

[@mattmarrin8457]

Patients* but either works.

[@user-lt6vj4gq4l]

Gosh ! …… the abuse details obviously have a relevant factor here ! I’m sure you are absolutely ‘ normal ‘ but someone who suffered unacceptable trauma ❕

[@user-nz6bk7lf8u]

Autism is a spectrum from similar to the mind of a child to a savant. There's chemically engineered Autism and then there's rare actual biological Autism and that's when a part of the brain functions differently so concepts to them are different. Idk whether im autistic or not. To me and this will sound weird. Bpd and abpd to me are coping personalities. Npd is a coping personality mask for the coping personalities. Its a mental shift. You have to make a mental choice of i need to be this and you absorb it into the subconscious. Like i must be this kind of psychopath with these rules to survive n some of those rules are how when you make the change back you don't do things you can't live with. Its like taking in the embodiment of a philosophy or concept or personality to piece yourself together to rude through the storm. Then put yourself back into the specific settings to revert the change. Like controlling or guiding ur inner darkness or psychopathy so you harness it. Its incredibly dangerous to be drugged in these states especially if they stop reasoning skills or subdue conciousness. I grew up knowing there's me who cares n loves above all. My self i choose to be and naturally desire. philosophy, choice, spirituality, self..... Then there's my emotions and hormones that can be changed by my disease and is fragile to environmental frequencies. Science, nature, medicine.... Then theres the me that's been abused in a way that has a hollowing which is the bpd. Darkness..... Personally i tend to look at things backwards. Structures from top down not bottom up. Language learning only makes sense if you learn the alphabet not words. That makes no sense. Its takes months and monthd to make these mental shifts. If ur being drugged it will prevent them from working properly. It comes to will>sanity thresehold, abuse.

[@niemamnog7888]

doctors should leave her alone, shes alright, just strange

[@isabellekeyzer]

i didn't understand where we can find this woman on KZbin. Can you spell it out please

[@youtubeknight53]

Chocolate autizzy

[@kungfujoe2136]

calling aspd psychopathy is like saying a workswagen is a ferari (they are basicly the same) sociopathy doesnt have a clinical meaning thus can be used for annything

[@Atomikbomb444]

An ex friend of mine is married to someone with extremely low empathy. She always claimed that his choices meant more than someone's of high empathy (like myself), because he never truly felt like doing the correct things in life, and never related to anyone. Myself or my friend on the other hand (with high levels of empathy) aren't sincere, because we cannot help but feel for others and we don't need to work as hard to act in accordance for the good of humanity. We just naturally feel inclined to be helpful. So, it bothered me for years because she would routinely criticize me on my empathy - "Are you meaning to help because of a conscious decision, or are you just reactive?" She would get irritated when I'd cry, because it isn't productive to anyone. She said her husband never cried, and after being married to him for so long, she began to realize how useless it is. "Just fix what needs fixing." She said she learned how to not cry, and how to take action instead. She said I was the one who wasn’t a good person, because empathy was granted to me. I basically hit the neurological jackpot. It really hurt for years, but I finally understand what she meant by it all. Empaths or whatnot, aren't better people...we're often worse. Psychopaths who choose wisely actually are the better people in this world, because they work at it. Naturally feeling for people isn't inherently better. I can see why my friend thought I was a selfish person, I trult do. And I still am, but maybe less so as I mature (hopefully). She ghosted me because my sensitivity was too off-putting. So, all this to say that highly empathetic people are, ironically, the assholes, whilst moralistic psychopaths are objectively the most un-assholeish of us all.

[@nicolem5626]

I’m not sure about that. As a highly empathetic person, I have also exhibited jealousy, rage, and meanness. We don’t always act on our empathy and everything we do is a decision also.

[@Atomikbomb444]

@nicolem5626 I have also seriously screwed up massively too. I've really gone back and forth about it for years, im leaning now into believing her even if it's a shitty lesson to learn. It's definitely admirable for people with little to no empathy to accomplish things for good. I've been moved to do the right things because of empathy too, so there's also that. And legitimately so, not just because I'm brainlessly reacting (as she claimed). I do know (and it always sounds biased from one perspective, she's not here to defend herself) is that my friend became increasingly impatient with myself and others and she became much more entrenched in Russian Orthodox Christianity as time went on (dogmatic). Part of it might have been religious. Religion seems to suit those with a lack of empathy quite well.

[@johannamonapa5368]

Maybe she is calling you an asshole because this is what she heard growing up and it's a reason she has low empathy. I wouldn't try to believe and learn so much from people who make us feel sacred and insecure. Otherwise we just become like them. It's good to question and reflect on your own behaviour. As an example if someone tells you you only cry because you need attention, I feel sad for them. They have lost the ability to empathise for people who do cry and feel pain and also cannot use crying to release their own pain. It's sad for them, it's not a reason to shame someone else.

[@GreatMindsSeekTruth]

you’ve clearly allowed this person to skew your view on empathy. I wasn’t neurologically born with empathy. The struggles of my life, created empathy. I could relate to pain, being abandoned, abused,suffering defeat,having people not love me. We have an appreciation, a sensitivity, & understanding of life that creates compassion, gentleness,& a deep loving concern within us.

[@Atomikbomb444]

@GreatMindsSeekTruth You can disagree all you want, but it's a hard truth. Empathetic people aren't inherently more moral, and certainly not more useful. Just think about it, it took me literally years to come around to the same conclusion...and while she might've been an irritating person who I'm glad has drifted out of my life...she was dead correct.

[@danielhernandez-fo3mj]

I think thats a personality disorder issue .... I told my current partner about my bpd and said I can get super crazy and really it still took me a long time to get him to relize that there's no time frame on getting better and getting better dosent mean forever ... and you have to be able to accept that or you will be hurt..... in dbt radical acceptance is a big thing and I feel us being honest is just us using radical acceptance...to a bunch of peole who don't fully understand the consept of it ...

[@DreamseedVR]

Did this girl really just say that autism presents differently among different races?

[@GreatMindsSeekTruth]

Thank you for saying this! When she said “especially how autism presents in girls of color.” My brow raised way too high. I don’t think autism chooses to attack just whites, or manifest differently..depending on race.

[@IdeaGrazer]

What I understood was that there did not seem to be any options for her to get help and she thought so because she was a black person. I remembered listening to an online discussion years ago about how people can perceive they don't have options so they don't even try to get help. There might not have been any options or she may never have looked for them. I know I never really looked for help for depression because everyone in my location talked about how hard it was to get help. I later found out it was actually harder than I thought and so mostly I have helped myself. Now I believe I am autistic and it is frustrating because I could have dealt with my (radically) differently. One book I read said the first thing anyone with trauma has to do is learn to be kind to yourself. The next thing you have to do is learn to recognize and enjoy your successes. Also, people with autism sometimes have to work harder to find the words to express themselves and don't always get it perfect.

[@trixiesilver4030]

I don’t understand her psychiatrist’s take on aspd. To claim that most folks with the aspd diagnosis are in the criminal justice system because there are “high functioning” people with the pd who just aren’t getting diagnosed is tautological. We can’t count how many are undiagnosed, and this would seem like an unusual pd diagnosis to water down per the spectrum model because of the severity of behaviors that characterize the criteria for diagnosis. As an autistic psych np with forensic experience watching this interview, I can only see the aspd if she was lying & minimizing her actions, although that doesn’t seem to be the case. Many autistic people (myself included) tend to over-explain ourselves into problems, in spite of our goals of clarity and honesty. Alexithymia & trauma responses in an autistic person can be misinterpreted as a lack of empathy or even psychosis.

[@IdeaGrazer]

It is possible she has both. She was abused and had to repress her emotions. Not everyone responds the same way to these circumstances. My impression of Cassy is that she was very articulate about her circumstances. Being open her situation is not really for our sake. The more honest she can be the less likely she is to engage in behaviors that would support whatever BS she has plied people with which she actually stated in the interview. She also was quoting her psychiatrist about how the people in prison were "low functioning" and there were other people outside the system that are "high functioning". Before she heard that she thought people with ASPD were all criminals.

[@albatjay6841]

This is the actual Bal , bal . I am calm then they think .

[@Monipenny1000]

Am I the only one who feels, if she is a sociopath, then most people in my life are too. She seems far kinder and most self aware than half the people in mine and my husbands family. They don't give a shit who they hurt, it's disgusting. The lions in our family makes her look like a cute little kitten. My gut keeps telling me they are psychopaths/sociopaths but it's hard to wrap my head around it, probably because it's been my normal my whole life, idk.

[@IdeaGrazer]

Please take care of yourself and I wish you well.

[@Monipenny1000]

@@IdeaGrazer thank you. I started therapy 19 months ago. The first thing I did around that time was cut ties with all the toxic critters in our family. I am doing much better these days. Thank you for your kind words.

[@tshawn6406]

I find that men, in general, don't like the idea that they can be as easily objectified as a woman could. I have had several of these conversations... if a man wants to start a sexual relationship before we've built a solid emotional & intellectual connection then it makes me view them as a sexual object. I'm very upfront about it but it has led to me being called out my name on more than one occasion 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@IdeaGrazer]

No one likes to see a reflection of themselves.

[@Sweetlove907]

I thought sociopaths special trait is their impulsivity and hyperactivity. She is just unique in her own way I think. She could actually be just low in empathy But I don't think the term sociopath describe well

[@nicolem5626]

We can’t. There are too many people who would pretend to be offended just to sabotage someone’s work

[@IdeaGrazer]

Are you an expert?

[@danielhernandez-fo3mj]

Lol in my opinion as a gay male we already have abandonment issue and rejection issues so we tend to engulf our time in people alot of us not all will have borderline or histrionics triats and mabye thats why with your aspd diagnosis you connect so much is we sit in the same disorder category eveb if they don't have the full diagnosis and just traits

[@HumanimalChannel]

The heavy editing is too off-putting

[@jcimsn8464]

So is my niece. Scary individual with borderline pd

[@joyjoy-lf2py]

Do sociopats apologize? Cause she apologized four times in first 3 minutes

[@heide-raquelfuss5580]

Indeed!

[@thesecretshade]

Yes they do. Being a sociopath doesn't mean they can't be self aware or socially functioning. Most of them know how to talk or what's normal, not everyone of them cares. It's a spectrum

[@calmdown2876]

Interesting

[@weaselbox6746]

the editing is so heavy its difficult to watch this and believe it.

[@GallumArtemi]

I'm very curious what diagnostic criteria she meets for anti-social personality disorder specifically. Because she just said she has never committed a crime. Crimes are the protection of the rights of people, so if you haven't committed a crime, but you have pervasively disregarded and violated the rights of others, how has that worked? This just sounds like her psychiatrist is weird to me. A. Pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others, occurring since age 15 years B. The individual is at least 18 years old. C. There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years. D. The occurrence of antisocial behaviour is not exclusively during the course of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.

[@user-lt6vj4gq4l]

It’s 5% ❕

[@Poppi_Weasel]

how do u feel nothing but still feel Anger? this sickens my stomach but it's good to know about the Emotionless monters walking around. i pray she does not have a baby.

[@user-ct7ln4qp5p]

Call the Irish obsession disorder hotline!

[@hurricane_valence]

These aren't comorbid. I am diagnosed with anti-social personality on a server level but I do know that aspd and autism brain function are completely different. High function haha wow this girl really doesn't want aspd 😅 Sorry, but the criteria for this is not that great. Same thing with the PC RL psychopathy checklist., In fact, qualify her diagnosis on th psychopathy checklist. You have to have a severe form of antisocial personality disorder which is extreme criminal versatility, yet be extremely merciful. And if you read a checklist is not exactly a cakewalk. Tech Bundy scored a 39 and he was. Well, a murderer and they considered him a perfect psychopath because of how high his score You only get a score that high if you've done some really bad things. I'm so forward to say that indeed social personnel. Ity disorder you don't have to be a criminal. To be a diagnosed, well, look at the actual criteria for it and look at the DSM 5.

[@miriamwells35]

Same.

[@AncientIntegrations]

It’s fine. The doctors who failed to accurately diagnose you are actually the criminals, and they’re not worried about showing their sorry faces in society. Not only that we give them respect. Respect they don’t deserve.

[@danielhernandez-fo3mj]

Forgive me if I give more then one comment I'm fascinated by this topic .... I'm surprised she got yhe aspd diagnosis and not like some form of prolonged conduct disorder..... or even got a conduct disorder as a child as thats what needs to be there before a aspd diagnosis though not everyone with conduct disorder grow to aspd.... thats why I wonder if she truly had a prolonged conduct disorder rather then true aspd ... and the symptom overlap of asd and aspd has made this such a confusing diagnosis..... I had a conduct disorder as a child that was the beginning signs of my borderline personality disorder as a man ..... its so fascinating the progress we are having with asd and allowing them to also get a personality disorder diagnosis when for a long time you couldent have ine and have asd .... my asd1 pda profile partner is late diagnosed and I see him having triats of schizoid personality disorder ... as he is a loner and preference it ... also dosent have sex drive desires much so I'm almost sure he has it ... ty for this video

[@melliecrann-gaoth4789]

I think that other psychiatrists may not agree with her personality disorder diagnosis. It is very reliant on the categories available in the DSM

[@danielhernandez-fo3mj]

@melliecrann-gaoth4789 for sure I can see that

[@Severoth]

She’s said in her other videos that she got diagnosed with “aspd traits” which I’d interpret that as not having the disorder but only having symptoms of it.

[@danielhernandez-fo3mj]

@@Severoth but then the video shouldn't indicate the diagnosis..... and as someone who has bpd lol, we also say triats, so I'm not sure I see that as dismissing her saying she has the disorder .... as in treatment we aren't supposed to say I have, bpd, we say I suffer from bpd traits as a way to not identify with the disorder ....... most peole with asd can have trists of personality disorder in the old days before renew a autism was they used to consider it autistic psychopathy .... that's why it's so confusing for me to hear her even say she has traits as that was the literal original name for autisum.... was autistic psychopathy.....

[@hurricane_valence]

Same, I am diagnosed with anti personality disorder and this video doesn't only make sense. To be diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder. You do have to conduct disorder in your childhood before the age of 15. You don't have to be diagnosed with conduct disorder. Cause some kids don't have access to psychiatrists. Ir, what not has children But the contact disorder has to be proof. I don't really think she has AS. PD because you have to fit the criteria aslD and it's not necessarily the best criteria. Sitting with the PC RL which is a severe form of aspd And it's not exactly the best criteria either Criminal Conduct is quite common in these disorders. So It seems to me she's just more autistic than antisocial. I don't think the psychiatrist got it right.

[@user-sc5qc7ow3h]

Still dont think u got aspd. U should get a reassassement on that diagnosis.

[@gooftroopg2623]

Yall realize that people with aspd can literally ruin peoples lives right?

[@IdeaGrazer]

Are you really sure that you have never harmed anyone?

[@gooftroopg2623]

@@IdeaGrazer somebody's offended