I'm outta here! Leaving the U.S. after the election (and why you're probably not)

[@nichotto]

You really can’t compare past presidents to this latest disaster. He’s in a whole new league.

[@deborahcurtis1385]

Precisely! But he maybe voted for Trump?

[@lukaskamin755]

Trump was already in office, don't you remember?😅

[@debhil226]

America is screwed. The documentary "Bad Faith" explains their plan in their own words.

[@GeorgianaOnline]

Living outside the US has been a lifelong dream. And, no, my choice is not Portugal. I’ve already begun to research visas, etc. I do online freelance work, and I know I can qualify for my country of choice for my first year outside the US. This is about more than just being unhappy that my candidate didn’t win. I’ve been a lifelong independent. My candidates typically don’t win. But this time around the entire country is shifting more towards misogyny and other kinds of hate. This is no longer my country. We don’t have much in common anymore.

[@bryantint1339]

Independent too.

[@Amanda_downunder]

Where do u think u will go to ? there is much options

[@salomeantonmcclellan5067]

CR is a great option

[@donovanfoto3263]

Costa Rica, Panama, Paraguay and Chile are on my list before Portugal. I do want to see Portugal and Spain. I also want to return to Ireland.

[@Steve-nf1tg]

The hate comes mostly from the left. Watch CNN or MSNBC for 10 minutes and you’ll see.

[@terryhutchings7701]

One thing to keep in mind is if the US withdraws from NATO, I’m not sure how friendly Europe will be to Americans. I have been living in France for a year and was literally two months away from returning to the USA. I have to renew my Visa now if I am staying. The bureaucracy in France is overwhelming. France is fantastic, but if you don’t have the patience for delays or paperwork, don’t come. Also, finding an apartment to rent is very difficult. Most landlords require a French income. Buying may be easier, I don’t know. France has a lot of strikes, so be prepared for that too. It’s not all chateaus and wine. If you are determined and can lose some of your ‘I want it now’ American ways, you may be ok. Sorry, I know this is about Portugal, but thought I would contribute a bit about France.

[@giivan1986]

US should leave nato and stop paying nato money We dont need Nato

[@popicelolly]

Most importantly you need to learn and speak French.

[@Lorenzotti.coffee]

​@@giivan1986Someone with no clue about world wide politics...

[@ivanxyz1]

I moved my family in 2023. You are right that it is a process, but honestly, it is not that bad. It is certainly much easier than immigrating to the US.

[@toddboothbee1361]

I returned from three weeks in Portugal, now hooked on bifanas and coffee. And I'll miss Pingo Doce and Grovo. Once I got the hang of it, the transportation there was great. I have almost a year to use up credit remaining on my Navegante card, so I'm obligated to return. Besides, I do notice now that I felt safer in the streets of Alfama at 1 a.m. than in my yard at 1 p.m. here in TX.

[@InMyBrz]

WELL ACTUALLY .... the USA has been changing the last 30 years - not for the good Healthcare sucks, schools suck, police suck, justice sucks and jobs suck Voting for a FELON just adds on more bad news NICE, people have had enough, you can't live long enough to fix it Get out, find a place where you have good cheap healthcare, is safer and have a much higher quality of life. I live in that other place that speaks Portuguese since 2018 and loving it ! I lived in the other SETUBAL a couple years ago !

[@masterchef.l1x]

you ppl ever think why shits been so bad with the way the government been doing things in the us. its about time we get some big changes. we dont need life politicians to fix this shit we need a solid businessman in Donald Trump and his bad ass team he has assembled to make big changes. keep on crying libtards... keep on crying lol

[@digitalreject3233]

Excellent comment. We are definitely leaving, but not Portugal or anywhere in Europe. I have been planning to move when I retire anyway, but now with the fascist takeover of America my daughters are committed to coming with me.

[@peterbedford2610]

Yes. Its been a downhill slide for years now. The trend is very clear.

[@Vikinggirl1679]

and lets not forget hes's also a convictes rapist. How is he not in jail???? sickining. i am looking to get out too. as a 57 year old single woman with no children, aka useless, i am looking to move to Finland. my grandparents were born and raised in Kronoby Finland and i have cousins there and i am trying to get a residence permit from that. with family ties permit you don't have to have a certain amount in the bank. nice. I am learning Finnish now and will have to sell my house. hope I get there soon!

[@meredithheath5272]

​@@Vikinggirl1679So glad for you! Easier if you already have family ties which signals to the gov't that you are serious about staying.❤💙💙💙💙

[@LynneCooney]

We are not upset. We are terrified. No shit we can’t get in to Canada. But some of us CAN get in to Portugal and will gladly pay higher taxes.

[@masterchef.l1x]

lol............

[@Buc-eesGurl]

Agreed. Especially after the cabinet picked named. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@angielu3273]

us too

[@caseyfile]

in 4 years you will look back and realize how ridiculous you are being... Stop watching the MSM they have polluted your mind, no wonder all those networks are on life support

[@mindfulbynature3418]

Why can’t you get into Canada?

[@1969rosey]

My family and I visited Portugal last year and that's when I decided that I wanted to relocate there. I really appreciate all of the information you've provided. It further affirms my decision to move there.

[@destinationeatdrink946]

Thanks for contributing to the conversation. Best of luck!

[@macaccount4315]

I just moved to Porto for this reason. So glad I thought ahead. The USA is a hot mess now

[@Amanda_downunder]

where is Porto ?

[@macaccount4315]

@ northern Portugal. It is wonderful

[@Amanda_downunder]

@@macaccount4315 - thanks; I may look into their retirement visa rules, etc.

[@richardpodnar5039]

Your observations have been the most comprehensive I have heard on any of these recently released videos. Very fair assessment of the pros and cons of moving to a country like Portugal. Thanks for your honesty and straightforwardness!😊🤩

[@destinationeatdrink946]

Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

[@TravelBound2024]

I thought so too.

[@MariE-go7ol]

Actually I am a nurse and applied for my Canadian RN license and I will be driving from California to Canada or Mexico but I’d like to work a few more years before retiring. I originally thought it would be porteguel and I actually visited last month in fear Trump would be elected but the reality set in that I could not get my cats over there so easily and don’t want to put them through that. So next 2 choices are Canada and or Mexico. I’ve been packing and downsizing for 5 months for this possibility. I plan to rent my house out. Not sure why you would say 99.8 % don’t go. I’m sure I’m not the only one preparing. This time is so different than all other elections because we are about to be ruled by a dictator and many shocking and dangerous things will be occurring.

[@Mightyluna]

Yes, to everything you said in your last sentence. I've been planning as well and had initially considered Spain; however, I too have pets and have decided on Mexico. Best of luck to you!

[@talktothehandreviews]

Hi there! I'm originally from Cali but married a Canadian man and have lived in Canada now for decades. I can tell you that I LOVE CANADA! One of the most shocking things about Canada for me was that in Canada we have health care! My American mom paid into her HMO for decades through her employer, then when she needed heart surgery, they simply refused it. She passed on about four months later. Fast forward to my life in Canada many years later and after not needing much health care for most of my life I suddenly came down with a life threatening illness that had me in the ER overnight and multiple more times, had a surgery, and am still having ongoing visits with specialists and I can honestly say the Canadian health care system saved my life! I have probably had like $500 THOUSAND dollars worth of health care and it cost me only my PARKING FEES which were like $2 dollars, $4 dollars. . But try to get in asap while Trudeau (Liberal) is still in, because we have our own maga here who support Pierre Poilievre, who's policies are THE SAME AS DUMP'S. We have our own insurrecionist asshats here too, called Freedumbs but make no mistake, it's the same forces that got Dump elected. So hurry hurry hurry!!! I hope you can get it because although I love my mother country, I feel like Canada loves me back. Cheers!

[@mindfulbynature3418]

⁠@@talktothehandreviewssuch good info! But what if I move there then the Pierre P gets in? Do you think it likely?

[@mindfulbynature3418]

To add, I have to say I’m so so sorry about what happened to your mom. I’m relatively “young” but had a heart attack this summer and my Obamacare healthcare enabled me to get excellent care and heart surgery. I can’t imagine what would’ve happened without it, but it sure looks like Rump is going to take it away from millions.

[@talktothehandreviews]

@@mindfulbynature3418 Hi! Thanks for your well wishes! Yes if PP gets in who knows what we'll be dealing with? But the elections are not for another year (October) so that's why I think you should get the ball rolling asap. There is a chance that the election can be pushed sooner, but that would depend on all of our heads of the parties here voting for it, and most of them still support Trudeau even though he's been slandered by the same kinds of people that have slandered US Democrats. Right now, the other parties won't vote for an election because they know PP (the conservative) would likely win and he's against everything sane, voted against women's right to choose, voted No on health care expansion, speaks hatefully of gays and immigrants, etc (exactly like the US elections). Yet because of these right wing influences he's the front runner. Trudeau has actually done a great job with Canada, but I'm sure you know about the rage machine that the Right Wing can run and they're running it on Trudeau. I still think Canada is a great choice, but like I said the sooner you get in the better!

[@lindadorman2869]

Moving abroad to one place takes awhile but it's pretty easy to start traveling full-time whether you keep a US home base or not. I've been to 40 countries since 1990. I stay 1-3 months in each country as tourist visas allow. At 64, I'm planning to leave again soon for at least 2 years, maybe longer. As long as you are healthy with a sustainable income, you don't have to stay in the US if you don't want to. The hardest part is getting used to packing light and not having all your stuff with you all the time.

[@stevo728822]

As you get older the cost of travel insurance sky rockets. And flying is becoming more expensive and security checks more strict. EU soon to introduce biometric and ETIAS entry regulations.

[@glennryan4889]

Very interesting. I am British but have lived in Spain for 20 years. I find that here and in Portugal, you can live a quieter simple life if you want to. I personally would like more time and freedom than lots of money and the lack of violence is a big thing or me.

[@HungNguyen-so5yb]

I am Vietnamese with dual citizenship US-UK. I have been living in United Kingdom for more than 20 years.

[@NomadicVegan]

Moving to Portugal really wasn't that hard when I did it in 2017. That was why my husband and I chose it over Italy and other countries in Europe. In Portugal there was a clear path we could take to obtain residency, and ultimately citizenship. In other European countries, there wasn't. We hired an immigration lawyer to help us, gathered the documents we needed, and it all went pretty smoothly. I probably complained about the bureaucracy at the time, but compared to Italy, where I live now, the bureaucracy in Portugal was a walk in the park.

[@tinglestingles]

Portuguese bureaucracy has certainly changed recently - a massive backlog at immigration AIMA/SEF

[@jlgcannuck]

I just stumbled upon your video and enjoyed it. I am a Canadian so no plans on moving anywhere but I guess I find it interesting because in the 60's /70's I grew up in a small town in Canada that welcomed many Portuguese immigrants. ( I understand it was a difficult time in their country then) Our town became about 1/3 Portuguese people. They brought interesting culture and food and diversity with them. What I remember is how hard working they were and how they would buy a house and move in and bring over more family and they worked to buy houses for them. I was just a kid and I remember some backlash but mostly they were welcomed . I remember they painted their house very bright colours which was odd to us and there was some NIMBY because they also might have chickens in their yards. I now wonder what it was like from their perspective because I remember some name calling . Too bad there will probably always be parts of the world and people that will fear " the other" and denounce immigration laws but I know it is a very complicated issue worldwide. Most people say they embrace LEGAL immigration but I now live in one of the most culturally diverse cities in the world and while we are may be better at this than other places----can't say we are perfect at it embracing cultural differences.

[@sharemyeyesweetistme3718]

You, can't really compare this election with any other! Not moving to Portugal but Italy waiting on my daughters passport home up for sale I am done ✈️

[@InvisibleWarrior279]

No you can’t. No other leader in US history has stated his goal is to turn it into a dictatorship. And he is NOT joking; in case people do not understand this.

[@maryshank7825]

Italy just elected a right wing leader

[@user-retsailor]

You are correct for the most part. Making a significant change is not as easy as people believe it to be. However, there are other ways to do leave the United States but, another method may not be for everybody. I'm planning on by the end of 2025 to NOT be living in the U.S. My plans are to slow travel through SE Asia, to include Malaysia and Indonesia. Travel with a backpack and small suitcase, carry-on only. Stay at each location from a few days to a few weeks. I'm not going to ship a bunch of belongings ! It's just stuff and nothing more ! I'm retired Navy and have visited some places and so, know kind of what to expect. I know that Transportation, Communication, Health Care are better in SE Asia than in America for the most part. There are obstacles but, America has very recently turned into a nightmare of a country to live in ! Just plan and fail rather than fail to plan !

[@j.vanderson6239]

Good luck in Portugal. Enjoy the relaxed and secure life in Europe with good quality food and beautiful cities for people, not for cars 🇪🇺

[@Patrick_Ross]

This 75 year old is definitely moving abroad. Been planning this for several years so not a knee jerk reaction although the decline of the U.S. has given me the final impetus. No final decision on the country although Portugal is near the top of my list.

[@angielu3273]

yay for the 75 year old. we are 75 and on our way to a small village in France that has train access. we walk a lot there, eat better food and are much happier and healthier.

[@CitroTeam]

Hello. I'm Portuguese and I liked your description of the country. It failed to mention that there are socialists and communists elected in parliament and sometimes they are government. This information may scare some people because it seems to me that most Americans are unaware of the reality.

[@destinationeatdrink946]

Yes, this is true. In fact, our city of Setubal is run by a communist government. I was very surprised to find that out. However, socialism has a very different meaning in the US than what is in practice in much of Europe. Thank you very much for your contribution to the conversation.

[@ceoa]

Divisive politics and racism all over the world I'm afraid......But I want to travel everywhere. I'd make a stop right there, just to try that delicious looking soup and sandwich. 😊

[@Solrac-Siul]

@@destinationeatdrink946 as much as it may surprise, communist in Portugal have a fairly decent record running municipalities, particularly in terms of managing green areas, social, cultural and recreation related spaces , defending local communities and what not. I actually know many people that will vote more to the center or right for "national" elections, and will cast their vote, often with a sour taste in their mouth, on the communists when it comes to local elections .

[@NimmiCat]

I love that there are many parties and that Communist and Socialist are not bad words. I also was entertained by Freemasons being active. More the merrier.

[@GeorgianaOnline]

Most Americans can’t even define communism and socialism.

[@lolpt9330]

The benefits are not only the Healthcare system (healthcare means doctor appointments are free, you have a family doctor, that helps you throughout your life, from infancy to old age, but also exams, cancer, accidents, some degree of mental health, emergency ambulance, but also pharmacy - low medication prices) and Education (your kid will have free school from kindergarden to university - which is not 100% free but it is a low value). Benefits are also social security (when you are sick, 22 day vacations, pregnancy leave, 2 extra months income - christmas and summer -, work injuries, support when you are out of work, etc.), retirement (when you are 65 you stop working and the pension is from the country), retirement homes for the elderly, and even a funeral subsidy. There are many more other benefits, these are just the most important. These systems are similar to the ones of other european countries, and in the northern countries, like Sweden, Denmark, Germany, the taxes are much higher.

[@silkscreenart5515]

Are you Venezuelan? Sounds like you want things you never worked for.

[@sacroyalty]

American who is leaving due to the election. Applying for a visa. Hoping to get results and move before 20th Jan 2025.

[@sacroyalty]

Can confirm it’s very hard. Just selling everything and the visa application has been a lot of work

[@lizard500]

I would love to follow your journey

[@whoknows2054]

Audios ,get lost, America is better without you, I'm so glad trump won. I bet you were disappointed that trump turned his head, weren't you?

[@solo741]

I saved for years after he got elected in 2016 and was finally able to move comfortably in 2022. This whole MAGA movement is completely fascist but like he mentioned in the video it’s spreading globally like a virus.

[@whoknows2054]

@@solo741 fascist? Wanting to secure the border, deport people that shouldn't be here, criminals especially. Love of country, freedom of speech, that the fascist government in the UK is censoring. I can go on and on. Tens of millions of people want to immigrate to America, so it can't be all that bad.

[@sammudd1365]

Thank you for this. I think you're on point in all areas that you covered. I retired this year and am spending more and more time in the Azores. My husband was Portuguese, and we always plan to retire there. He passed away 13 years ago, but now that I retired I'm doing it alone. I have a house in Praia da Vitoria on the island of Terceira. At my age, I may not need full citizenship considering taxation and ultimately access to healthcare while aging. I will probably have to come back to the US in the next 10 to 15 years. So I may toggle my life to balance both countries. However, after this last election, I can understand the knee-jerk reaction. I am planning my trips over there after the holidays. I look forward to your Azorean videos!

[@sviveiros]

@sammudd1365 excellent choice Praia da Vitória 🐮🏝️🐳

[@Alfablue227]

I visited Praia da Vitória because Nuno Bettencourt from Extreme was born there, and I loved it❤❤❤the Azores are just precious 💞

[@sviveiros]

@ his brother still lives there and is also a guitarist

[@Alfablue227]

@@sviveiros He has several brothers, doesn't he? I thought one of them lived in Porto. Are you talking about the one that taught him how to play guitar? Honestly, if it wasn't for my friend's horrified look, I would have gone door to door, house to house knocking to see if he was in town!! 💕 the guy!!

[@pattim9617]

My husband was in the Air Force and we were stationed on Terceira, in the Azores in 1972. Beautiful island and wonderful people. We bought a beautiful grandfather clock in one of the neighboring villages and still have it here in my living room. I remember a Mt. Brazil cheese ? and bread that was delicious along with their red wine. Wonderful memories….

[@scorpiolady1]

What is concerning, is if Medicare is desolved. My husband is 19 years older than me, I'm 56, he'll be 75 next month. He's taking retirement but also works part time. I work remotely, in healthcare, so no chance at being able to keep my job out of the country. I WANT to move, not necessarily to Portugal, but out of the country, but that's not going to happen. Be GRATEFUL your already out. Even there will be better than here once he's in office. Be GRATEFUL.

[@badminton5920]

I have been searching countries that have visa and income requirements that will work for me. Countries I'm looking at include Panama, Ecuador, Philippines, Vietnam, Malasia.

[@youngspiritsinging]

Our daughter moved to Norway with her husband and daughter sight unseen during the pandemic. It took them 4 months to leave Los Angeles. She tells me now that it was very challenging and she does not recommend that. They made a lot of mistakes along the way. They are very happy 4 years later but it has not been easy . She misses her familia and we miss her. They have fantastic health care but it is hard to get into Norway. The main thing is do not try to do this on your own . It is easy to make mistakes.

[@DecentGradient]

Thanks for sharing this very useful information! While the election certainly motivated my wife and I to start looking at alternative living situations, we've found ourselves drawn to Portugal more and more. We have two small children and we just don't want them exposed to the increasing violent rhetoric, school shootings, etc. We're looking for a safe place with a good education system, good health care, and reasonable cost of living. We're learning Portuguese and are planning a scouting trip in the spring. Is there any particular place you think is good for a family with small children? From what we've seen so far, somewhere around Coimbra or Porto seem like good candidates.

[@Alfablue227]

I moved to Portugal 6 years ago. I had seen the writing on the wall for a long time. Moving to Portugal was a process, but the best thing I ever did. It is a gorgeous place, but it has its problems too. Still, the positives by far outweigh the negatives. The people are nice, helpful, the weather if great, safety is high, great food, good infrastructure, great transport system in most areas, and stil affordable. Racism exists in Portugal, however, it's minimal compared to so many other places in Europe. Portuguese are quite tolerant. Politics in Portugal are complete soap operas, but still things here are way less polorized than in the USA. I lived in Azeitão my first two years, so I was in Setúbal all the time. Can you share with us the name of the restaurant you tried on this video? The food looked soo yummy! Enjoy Portugal 😊

[@destinationeatdrink946]

The restaurant is Popa's Kitchen on Large de Jesus. Link in the description.

[@LFANS2001]

@@destinationeatdrink946... Largo de Jesus

[@LFANS2001]

I miss those 'Tortas de Azeitão' . For more than 30 years I don't have them cause I'm in Porto...

[@Alfablue227]

@LFANS2001 They are so yummy & decadent!! You can come down from Porto to Coina by train and take a Uber just past the Coina Shopping Mall down the Estrada National, and just about 200 meters to the left, there is a famous "fabrica" and coffee shop/aka Portuguese Traditional souvenir shop (great stuff) that makes and sell them; they fly off the shelves!

[@Alfablue227]

@@destinationeatdrink946 Thank you.

[@lindastangelo1636]

You are correct... my husband and i tried moving to Portugal this past year. Unfortunately, there were some issues with our application, so we are starting the process all over again. It will probably take another 5-6 months to redo over again 😢

[@rabukan5842]

Very well said Brent. But, I would suggest that even with lower wages, when your education system is free, your health care is free and reliable, your infrastructure is safe and at a higher standard which allows citizens to feel better about where they live, that economically, you might be ahead. Most Americans never rise out of the class they were born in. So they might receive higher wages than in Portugal, but they can go bankrupt over one sudden illness, or they can't afford to send their kids to college, or their schools are not in the best condition, etc. I enjoyed this video.

[@jchae35jc]

We've been thinking of moving out of the states for quite some time especially after the election. But as you said, it's not that easy and I agree. I wish there was an island without politics, a place where there's harmony, no guns. An island with cheap but safe health care and that has no abundance of natural resources so it'll never be attacked. Just a dream I suppose.

[@bobtimster62]

The only place I can think of is Easter Island.

[@amuria55]

I live here in Portugal for 6 years, and yeah, the political divisivness here is probably close to the level of the US nowadays, and aparently getting worse. I personally never experienced any issue about racism, but clearly there is a lot. I'm in generall more focused on the economical situation of a place, both present and future, and I don't think it will get any better in Portugal, or any other European country for that matter. I would say, whatever you move to, always keep a mobility plan ready :) Edit: just to share this, I've been to the US twice, and ... honestly, I was quite afraid, both times I had crazy things happen very close to where I was staying. This is so weird, it was quite shocking. Again, just sharing.

[@tinglestingles]

Old Chinese saying... have a second set of papers, a fast boat in the harbor and a bag of gold - and be ready to go.

[@amuria55]

@@tinglestingles True :)

[@Morningdovecamp]

Thank you for all that very important info. I admit I was totally wondering about leaving the USA for a few years. I know I am really not going to - I have to try and be part of the solution here 😳🇺🇸. It looks absolutely beautiful there! The food looks delicious! Enjoy! Thanks again. I have subbed and I will check out some more of your videos 👍

[@majortom8047]

We departed the US in 2018. It was NOT because of Trump. We had planned to depart years before he came on the scene. It was a toss-up between moving to Portugal or Mexico. In the end, we decided on Mexico, with Portugal as a back-up. FYI: both require a boatload of paperwork and planning. So plan on that when/if you do decide to follow through with immigrating. We have a "good" life in Mexico, that we're quite satisfied with on a day-to-day basis. Research upfront is mandatory.

[@Mightyluna]

I am considering Mexico but haven't decided what state. Would you mind sharing what state you settled on? Thank you in advance.

[@majortom8047]

@@Mightyluna I'm in Jalisco. A few miles from Guadalajara, in the mountains.

[@Solrac-Siul]

I have been living here for 16 years now and would like to add 2 tibbits. In regards abortion there is a 10 weeks limit as mentioned, but there are some exceptions regarding situations of rape/incest or health related concerns in regards both the mother and son. One of my friends had to make a call as during pregnancy the medical staff detected very clear signs of Down syndrome and he was advised to abort. As for healthcare I think one thing to consider is very serious diseases (such as the big C or ME for example). They are normally handled by the national healthcare system, what means that people can be facing just live and death situations and not life and death plus bankruptcy . I had personal experience in regards Leukemia, that was detected here many years ago, and at no point I had to consider the expense side of things, and the lack of financial uncertainty and stress was probably a factor in terms of recovering .

[@destinationeatdrink946]

Thank you for the additional information and context on this issue.

[@cdt996]

Great Video! Definitely a great overview of what to expect moving to Portugal and the contrast between the US and Portugal. One thing I would add is the social aspect. It is very hard to break into Portuguese social circles. The Portuguese are very different culturally to us and integrating with them is tough depending where you are in and what circles you want to get into. Approximately half of US immigrants that move here seem to move back to the US after a year or so, given some of the official statistics. While I’m sure there are a lot of reasons, it’s hard to imagine not being able to find friends is a large one. While I have not spent a lot of time in Portugal, my time there taught me that it’s not the place for most typical Americans, even a majority of those who are wanting to leave now.

[@mickeyhead9770]

Don’t let the door hit you on your way out of the USA! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@marilynpeoples5099]

Such honesty. Thank you.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

I'd like to leave the United States but unfortunately I'm stuck here. Worse, I'm part of a minority group whose rights probably would be taken away! 😖😣😩😫😵

[@richa4425]

I lived in Angola for five years. I agree with you Africans were extremely racist and hostile towards foreigners. Government officials telling me to wait until all the Africans were served first and people randomly coming up to me telling me to go back to my country. I left when physical threats of violence became intolerable.

[@Amanda_downunder]

where did you return to ? USA ? that mush have been difficult.

[@kevinsiffel7331]

@@Amanda_downunder No , Im sure it wasnt hard to return, childish reactions make Americans realize how spoiled they are living here. Its always nice to visit foriegn locations but there is nothing like the USA.

[@Amanda_downunder]

@@kevinsiffel7331 - ok, I did not mean it was hard to return, I meant the experience of hate must have been difficult. Re leaving USA, heaps of people leave usa & keep doing so !

[@bobtimster62]

I never thought I would ever have to consider fleeing my own country due to the rise of fascism.

[@redwoods7370]

It’s like a bad dream and I pray we wake up in four years.

[@bobtimster62]

@@redwoods7370 Since the election I've been waking up extremely depressed every morning. In four years, it will be far too late.

[@redwoods7370]

@@bobtimster62 I have been experiencing the same thing. Everything has gone to gray and when I temporarily forget about the election, it comes back to mind with a horrible thud. We can and will get through this but it is probably going to be hell. I am on Social Security retirement and teach English as a Second Language part time in a college to mostly undocumented students. Both of my streams of income are threatened and it's an awful feeling every day. Stay strong.

[@Susan-cu6ne]

It simply breaks one heart, doesn't it?

[@lesleysmith8300]

Very informative thanks for sharing 😊

[@Cosmo4357-mj1tw]

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

[@teresareynolds2879]

I'm staying and fighting like hell!

[@Susan-cu6ne]

Teresa, I truly am glad to hear you say you are going to stay and fight. While I'm hopeful that America can find its way again, I must say, I am not optimistic. As for myself, I'm old, I'm wealthy and I'm out of here.

[@teresareynolds2879]

@Susan-cu6ne if you can, take some people with you!

[@robinpeppin]

ok, yeah, i've heard the entire globe is going to the right & fascismish. but they aren't my country. i can't bear to see my country behaving like this. i am 70 & i have worked hard to just baske in my retirement years, & see a dangerous dumdum like trump disrespect our institutions like this is killing me. & inflation is about to break our economy, & i can't handle that. i have hoped to go to europe one day, i love exploring, traveling, camping, historic places. i will be too busy escaping the madness away from here in nys. i've settled on portugal for a few reasons, & i'm trying to bear in mind about expectations. it will be culture shock, but i just went through a minor one, so i know there will be a period of depression & homesickness. but i will get through it. but i am so glad you made this, i wrote down the prep info, i had some, but the more i hear it, the quicker i can remember it to get it done. i'm planning to get there around fall of '25, & have a lot to do. i'm watching tons of videos on everything relocation & portugal.i am terrified & excited. i have to do this. thanks for your words.

[@witta505]

Dual US and Irish citizen, prefer Spain to both.

[@garrett7101]

Only reason most people aren't is because they can't or feel like they can't.

[@JCA51698]

I was in Guadalajara, Mexico over the summer to get TEFL certified. Will be going back to live there next year after I take care of debts and taxes. In my experience, the food, housing and healthcare in Guadalajara were all better value than in the U.S.

[@Flute1-075]

Portugal has been moving to the far right as well with recent elections of the Chega party. Also, Europe in general may very well be impacted negatively as a result of the recent US election and especially as regards NATO and problems with Russia. I wouldn’t be so confident or comfortable that all will be smooth sailing in Europe these days - but I totally get the impulse to leave.

[@pumuckl0]

Thanks for stressing the fact that you can't just move to another country without residency. I hear people say they are going to leave but you can't without residency somewhere else. Having lived abroad for twelve years it's nice to hear some realities from people rather than the digital nomad take. Also worth mentioning is that you will still have to file taxes in the US as long as you remain a US citizen regardless of where you live, and you may even be double taxed if you earn enough.

[@johnmachaqueiro5877]

I have been following your channel and really appreciate and have enjoyed what you've been showing from Portugal, and the personal perspectives of those from places like the US, UK, and Canada that have made Portugal their home to be quite interesting in their observations and experiences. Having been born and raised in Portugal, but now living in the US for many years I do find your assessment of the political landscape in Portugal seriously flawed in your observation. I applaud folks from places like the US, Canada, and the UK which aren't part of the EU to want to live in Portugal and actively fulfilling that desire by the legal means offered with the likes of the D7 and D8 visas. Those that live here in the US that want to leave because they don’t like the outcome of the election are just offering up a lot of empty lip service that they will never actually follow through with.

[@tonycollazorappo]

Must be nice to be able to just pick up and leave. Some of us are older seniors who can't afford to move and will probably parish within the system. 😢

[@NimmiCat]

If you have SS plus a small pension, you can. In Latin or South America you probably can on just SS. Look into it.

[@shotelco]

The YT Algo brought me here. First off, @13:57 when you began talking about abortion, how did you time the couple and their _Babies_ to come strolling through the scene? 😋 In 2023, about 1.3 Million foreign born people Legally immigrated _Into_ the U.S., and about 400,000-500,000 or so American citizens Migrated out. Although 16% or more of Americans polled say they want to move out of the U.S., the reality is only about 0.15% (3/20th of one percent) actually out-migrate annually now. That's about 15 Americans per 10,000. But just dreaming that one is out of America is almost as good as actually leaving.

[@destinationeatdrink946]

The timing in the video was surprising. I couldn't believe it when I edited the video.

[@Badger345]

You’re right I have friends that have said it a few times over the years and just said it again, I asked them why do you say that and do nothing? The answer, this time I’m really going! As usual.

[@Brutushungwell]

I am not moving to anywhere permanently. Most countries give you 90 days so I am slow traveling. Eventually I might settle on a country but for now I’m just traveling

[@MissRed92837]

I’m packing my stuff now and hopefully I can leave the US and move to Italy in the next 2-3 months.

[@stevewise1656]

Me too! Moving to Europe. Nope, we're flying to look at homes and will leave.

[@DHRodriguez86]

Don’t let this video discourage you. If you want to move you can move. There’s a lot of places to as well. Hire someone in that country to help you with the paperwork. Usually a notary can do everything an attorney can do but it’s less expensive. There’s a lot of KZbin Channels that walk you through the different processes. It’s not difficult. As he said this is a good channel. Not a relocation channel.

[@ALTAJR-07]

it is NOT just people who did not want Trump back in office leaving the US. I know several Trump Voters and MAGAs who are also leaving and moving to South America, Southeast Asia, Europe within the next 2 Years.

[@daveed4475]

I regret not being prepared - I thought it impossible he could win, so I relaxed about leaving the country. It’s going to take minimum 6 months to get things in order to leave. Preferred destination is Spain.

[@jena2664]

Thanks for your honestly

[@anniesshenanigans3815]

been 'researching' 10 years.. lol. Waiting for retirement. The election has nothing to do with my decisions. The biggest reason for me is the cost of living. Portugal has too many hoops to jump thru.. many other options out there.

[@BlindSquirrel425]

Portugal is harder to get residency than other European countries, and yes there’s a process everywhere. Just get informed and get started. You can always decide not to do it.

[@Amanda_downunder]

I think it's a great idea to move, if one wishes too. I'm in Australia and I hope to retire away from Aus .. maybe Cambodia, but I have not decided yet. Best wishes to you; keep us updated. 💛💯👌

[@dlross173]

Ummm yeah. I'm actually gonna do it. Rather than focus on why moat won't, use your channel to encourage people to work through why they wouldn't and how to do it. You'll make more money for it.

[@lesleysmith8300]

In my case, I'm done with the UK. 😂😂. However, l was planning to leave the UK when l discovered Portugal back in 2009. I first went to Aljezur and it was heaven and felt like home every time I went back to Portugal. I'm not deluded that it will be a bed of roses but l have been going to Portugal for a few years now and I'm pretty sure that's where l want to be. I'm also learning the language. I was looking at Viana Do Castelo but am now looking at Setubal but l need a 3rd option to see where the final choice lands. It needs to have a good infrastructure, weather not too hot or cold, relatively flat and nearby beaches and gardens to walk.

[@jojox7647]

The general consensus among Portuguese people is that Setubal and greater Lisbon in general are a bit unsafe, busy and have a worse quality of life overall compared to the rest of the country, what Setubal and Lisbon have to offer though is a lot more economic opportunies, job offers and entertainment. The North (closer to the coast since you don't want mountains) is probably a safer and offers more quality of life if you care for that, Porto and Braga are obviously big, bustling cities, but there's also Guimarães, Barcelos, Viana do Castelo, Chaves, Ponte de Lima, etc..

[@Lena-h4v]

North of Portugal rains a lot in Winter.

[@tinglestingles]

@@jojox7647 Interesting, we have lived in Setubal for almost three years, and found it very safe. It has a picturesque centre, flat and close to the beaches. I wonder if the consensus goes back 10 or 15 years when I understand there was more crime?

[@jojox7647]

@@tinglestingles Maybe the stereotype applies more to other cities in the Setubal district like Almada and Barreiro. There are tonns of jokes about the "margem sul" being an insecure place, how true they really are and when did they originate I am not sure.

[@tinglestingles]

@@jojox7647 Ahh yes, I understand. Thanks.

[@maryswanson9982]

I wish I could leave, but my family is here.

[@flylord42]

we did it.

[@louwade2654]

Bom dia! Glad I already moved!

[@1eflat]

Most people don't have the balls to move, especially, if you are older, I retired early and the left the shithole of NYC and moved overseas. However, moving internationally, I have a lot of stuff, sold a lot of stuff off (quite expensive). And the most important thing, Healthcare - God forbid, you have medical issues and then you can forget 95 percent of the planet. It took me over a year to plan my exit. You can't just get up and leave, those days are over - You need proof of income, have to pay foreign taxes and US Federal taxes ( min. 15%) and then language barriers and cultural barriers - moving is for the adventurous, and if you are not. Stay Home!

[@amandagoodman1272]

As an American, you need a certain amount of money to qualify, yes? (Haven’t watched all yet)

[@JohnRosado-n8t]

Espana would be my destination....

[@MeghanSmith-b3c]

Why you discouraging people? Just cuz it took you a long time doesn’t mean it will for others. It really depends where you go. Some places you can just up and move to.

[@christinamarie3598]

Yep .. not going anywhere .. staying and fighting

[@sparky5916]

U making me hungry and it`s 3am here in Sydney,Australia.

[@destinationeatdrink946]

@@sparky5916 That's my job! Thanks for watching!

[@Lisaloves6mill]

I'm so glad I live in Canada.

[@Fernando-xe4dm]

Remember, the neighbor's grass is always greener

[@badminton5920]

I spent time in Europe. I can testify to a higher quality of life in other countries. First rate public transit, affordable good quality healthcare, much safer, less commercialized, natural good quality food. No place is perfect, but a better life exists in other countries. Most are ignorant of this. I wish America would change for the better, but when will that happen.

[@HoppityHooper2]

@@badminton5920 The United States will change for the better on January 20th 2025 - the day President Trump is inaugurated into office.

[@douglasedwards983]

Renounce your American citizenship when you leave to show your commitment

[@kst7347]

Now you’re going to mess up Portugal.

[@knjmoorhouse5093]

How’s the teenage alcohol, weed and other drugs consumption rate?

[@leanette999]

I’ve lived in a lot of places, mostly in the south Pacific, and I’d love to leave the Continental USA again, but I’m too freaking poor. So I’m stuck here to be sacrificed on Trump’s altar.

[@badminton5920]

I have been searching countries that have visa and income requirements that will work for me. Countries I'm looking at include Panama, Ecuador, Philippines, Vietnam, Malasia, Portugal, Canada.

[@janvanaardt3773]

I am a South African very glad Trump won

[@patriciamoore3318]

So Americans who go to the doctor every minute are going abroad where they can do the same thing to their medical system. Why don’t Americans get healthy before going abroad and over using their systems.

[@camiller4916]

I think one poster made a good point. He /she was healthy, exercised, ate well, no doc visits. But then had one illness later in life that landed them in the hosp. In the US, that one illness could force thousands in bills and your home is fair game.

[@TurfSurf]

I just want a second citizenship with a good passport. How much does it cost to buy a Portuguese citizenship? Many country offer investment immigration, just wonder what is it like for Portugal.

[@tinglestingles]

Cannot buy citizenship. It officially takes 5 years as a resident or with a golden visa, but in reality about 8 years due to glacial bureaucracy - and you have to attain an A2 level of Portuguese.

[@tinglestingles]

If you're looking for an EU passport, try Malta. About a million USD (including fees) - 18 months in total.

[@tinglestingles]

It is a huge decision and shouldn’t be undertaken lightly. Portuguese bureaucracy is interesting.

[@costasworldofmusicmemories5792]

Where are you getting your info ?

[@lukaskamin755]

So funny to see under this video, video named "Americans leave Portugal".

[@musashi4856]

Terrified of FREEDOM! "NOOOOOOOOOO"

[@Marigold-m2]

Countries are racist when the people moving in bring their racism with them. aMErAGAINs you most certainly do, even when you believe you aren't racist.

[@lodjaboy]

I'm surprised about the anti-immigrant from Brazil sentiment there.

[@jmarie28]

Please do not generate all of this negative energy, which will only feed into the frenzy. Take a deep breathe and know that all will be revealed in the end. My first thought and remark to my son was that I am not living under a dictatorship. Living in France has always been my dream, but I want to move there for a better life not because I'm trying to escape an intolerable situation. My retirement is in the spring and regardless of what happens, even though I am 🙏 that Kamala is sworn in, my plans are still to leave the US, preferably to France. Let's all send out love and light to the World, to Pres. Biden and Kamala and especially to those who are investigating this unexpected and outrageous outcome that the truth will be revealed 🗽

[@Floatdude86]

I'm thinking someday, get out and travel, see new places, eat new food. Not thinking of staying in one country for long. Digital nomad using AI to fund it.

[@George-rm7yw]

Not something specific to Portugal (and I am not a US citizen) but dont you have to pay tax to the US government on earnings made outside of the US also, along with local income taxes, if you are a US citizen?

[@kitty_s23456]

It depends if the country has a reciprocal tax treaty with the US. If it does, then there's no double taxation. They still have to file taxes yearly, which can be done online. They pay federal but not state taxes.

[@camiller4916]

And the US gives a deduction of abt $126k on foreign earned income. However, this does not include income from any investments. The 126k deduction must be from earned income from a job

[@ohkay7418]

If something happens to medicare we r out of her. That's the only thing keeping me here. Everyone will be leaving then so Russia can move right in

[@xaviotesharris891]

Already gone. Left last year. Not going back.

[@debhil226]

It's not about an election. Our country has been handed to a fascist gang. Sadly, most of us do not have the resources to leave.

[@lisolis6017]

Just for 4 yrs ! 🙏

[@jaimehidalgo9072]

Goodbye !

[@136760mas1]

Bye, honestly, do you think anyone really cares? You are not that important to millions.