I Regret Selling My RX100 V for the NEW Sony RX100 VI...

[@JasonVong]

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[@NigelDPresents]

Not having the 1.8 aperture and the price are deal breakers.

[@JasonVong]

Not concern for the longer telephoto eh?

[@niqchen]

I deff am

[@b3naqua]

I'm going to wait for the RX100 X. I hear they're getting rid of the shutter button. 😂

[@K4kaShiii]

Not getting it. 2.8 is a deal breaker and the shitty 200mm is crap, its cheaper to just buy a 55-210 for apsc and you'll get better image quality

[@sQSZeSV61EU4hyUka2oIx]

You realize you can own and enjoy a camera without it being the newest one right?

[@davewyman]

Dave Wyman The Rx100 VI doesn't have a handicapped aperture. It's as large an f/stop as it can be with a 200mm lens on it while keep the same basic overall size. If the maximum f/stop was larger, the lens would be larger. I think a great combo would be a Sony HX90v and the RX100 VI. Even better: one camera or the other, or both, teamed with an iPhone with portrait mode.

[@MannyOrtiz]

I tested it. It still caps at 5 minutes, it’s the same battery and no ND

[@JasonVong]

aww so really no ND eh? Thanks Manny!

[@User74435]

Really Manny no ND? I have seen other comments say that it does. BUMMER!!!

[@MannyOrtiz]

I’ve had the camera since last week and kept looking at the menu to see if I missed it. Na it’s not there. It lacks some handy features but I swear the image quality has improved. Having the zoom can come in clutch when it’s all you have. I shot my Nephews graduation ceremony with it since I had the zoom capability

[@darriusholt]

Manny Ortiz is the aperture at 70mm still 2.8?

[@WuschelofDespair]

darriusholt it’s Not from what I’ve heard

[@sosomelodies659]

24-200mm is an amazing reach for a camera that can fit in your shirt pocket. F2.8 on the wide end is not a giant step backwards from F1.8. When you consider the trade off for the extra reach of 200mm you will be happy knowing that you can get a candid shot from afar whilst being discreet about it.

[@JasonVong]

exactly

[@bonsummers2657]

@@JasonVong Would the focus with the V be as good as the VI's 200mm zoom by enlarging the image of the V on ones computer?

[@TakashiNippon]

I still got the RX100 Mark 1, gonna wait for the RX100 Mark 10 :)

[@DirectorsGarage]

The amazing new feature isn't the lens, it's the autofocus. They're packing eye auto focus into this tiny package. That's worth celebrating, as is the touch to focus screen. As far as the speed of the lens-- You're still at f/4 at 70mm, not too bad, and you're at f/3.5 between 25-50mm. You now have image stabilization on the lens to help with that low light performance. The ND filter is gone on the VI. That's a huge omission. You can still use a recordable external mic issue with the Shure VP83F to solve the mic issue.

[@DaveDugdaleColorado]

I’m keeping my V, if the Vi had much better steadyshot then I would have upgraded.

[@JasonVong]

So it is the same as the V?

[@TheIkaika777]

Dave Dugdale, yup. I can’t believe it’s got a slower lens and still no mic jack. And now no ND filter. It’s a joke.

[@AshishPyala]

I was excited about the camera until I found out the widest aperture it goes to is f2.8 compard to the previous f1.8. Although the new lens on the mark VI has longer reach which is cool, I wish it had a wider aperture :(

[@JasonVong]

Yep, thats why I wished I kept mine

[@BarryMaskell]

When you can’t buy the V anymore - you can still buy the Panadonic LX10 love the bokeh f1.4 lens for vlogging

[@luckynever8208]

Sony should not skip the ND filter and add the mic in for vlog

[@ShaunakDe]

I'd take the faster lens over the increased zoom range any day. And twice on Sunday.

[@DiscoverThailand]

Nobody needs 200 mm, the aperture is much more important! I hope the will bring the lens from the rx100 V back to the next model and finally add usable image stabilization in 4K for vloggers!

[@Mohamedahmed331]

i'm sorry to hear that. I bought my Sony RX100 V in June of 2017 which is exactly 1 year ago and I love it!

[@yoursoundteam]

If we could slap a really thin variable ND on the front of the VI's lens, then I think we'd be in business. Also, I love my VI. For day to day vlogging, I couldn't care less that my shutter has to go up or that I lose the shallow DOF. If you want to shoot cinematically with this thing, you absolutely can, and it still looks great in low light.

[@stephenscharf6293]

Why does Sony charge $1200 for the VI? Because they can. And, let me guess, it still does not include a battery charger that would cost Sony an extra 5 bucks from a COGS perspective.

[@JasonVong]

Ahhh probably not. I have a wasabi charger. Does the work fine and came with two additional batteries!

[@bankomeister11]

Do you still shoot with your a6500? I have been debating going FF since 2009 but none of the FF models gets me really excited. Size and weight are a huge factor for me. If it’s too big, I just won’t carry it and i haven’t been fully convinced that going FF would give me enough improvement in my results to justify the weight. I’ve been shooting a6000 since it came out. I’m a mom who chases little kids and I rely on the fast eye tracking and 11fps. I do have a nice little collection of APSC Sony Zeiss lenses that are a great balance of size/sharpness. Is now finally the time to go full frame or should I move to the a6500? Love your channel!

[@narayita]

I'm happy to say that I don't regret getting an RX100 V recently and will not be upgrading to the Mark VI the autofocus on the Mark V is already amazing and the F/1.8 lens is an advantage over the VI. I don't think the added focal length is worth the added price because if I want that distance I would probably use a different camera. The RX100 V is an amazing camera and I'm very happy with it and will be for a few more years it seems :)

[@Vegas702]

I just brought the Rx100v today for $800 and some change, will receive it on Friday. I really didn’t want to spend $1200 on the new camera to high on price. I think I will like this little camera for fast shots...

[@RyanREAX]

Ryan Bandy shoulda got an a6500 for a bigger sensor and better IQ

[@JasonVong]

Yep that camera's still good!

[@Vegas702]

SerenityPhotos I already have the A6500, and A7iii lol 😂

[@JasonVong]

GAS

[@KartikJayaraman79]

The RX100 V is great...except for the overheating problem. My A6300 overheats too...so I have two overheating cameras and have to use 1080 for longer video recording (30-40 mins or so)

[@northbeachfilms]

thank you for the video review of the RX100 camera. for the record, i still prefer the IV. it is extremely durable and the picture quality is excellent. i gave this video a thumbs up but suggest that you consider editing your clips in the future. this video is almost 11 minutes and should really be about 3 minutes tops. no need to repeat things and as one of my mentors used to say, "I got it the first time...." Keep on rockin' and have a great week. long live sony.

[@venom5809]

I thought this camera was great until they hit us with the price. I don't know man.

[@JasonVong]

$1200 is pretty steep...

[@tesalsangma]

Buy mark 5 again, Jason. Seems like a better deal. I don’t think I care much about the zoom. Mark 6 is such a disappointment for me.

[@JasonVong]

I might just cop another one used

[@Kevin-ct3ht]

I have the RX100 M3, currently best value of the series I think. Glad they finally added the touchscreen, but they gave up so much useful features. Extra range is nice, but not at the cost of the fast aperture. They removed app support, they removed the ND filter. They did not add a microphone jack. Heard somewhere they are targeting vloggers, but I don't see how with these specs. Definitely not upgrading and if the next one in the series is similar to the M6, I won't look back to the RX100 series.

[@mattboggs6304]

I just bought the V a month ago, so definitely sticking with that. The longer zoom on the new one is cool, but zoom isn't the reason I bought the RX100.

[@CCWLONGSHOT]

Definitely going with the Panasonic LX10 now instead of this or the V. Touch screen, 4K, and a heck of a lot cheaper than the V and the VI

[@JasonVong]

hows the AF on that camera

[@a55tech]

dat EVF tho

[@ericthomson8093]

I actually tested the RX100 V in Japan while I was carrying around my LX10. The AF on the RX100 V definitely felt a bit snappier to me. It is still quick though.

[@BarryMaskell]

Love the LX10 - AF is great if you take time to get to know the camera AF settings and set it up correctly

[@MarkNorman_NXTLVL]

I have had the LX10 for a while now, love it - but I did buy a ND filter because the 1.4f is so nice, but super fast it needs and ND filter in the sun. Well underrated camera TBH, AF isnt amazing like sony but half the price for 99% of the capability you know..... Plus the macro shots you can get are ...so good!

[@Person-zt5nq]

I have neither; which one should I buy now? I get that VI has better zoom and V has better low light. Are they otherwise identical? Any other advantages to VI or V?

[@ScottsReviews]

Also the new tripod thing grip does not have a mic input. What ? That was an easy way to cover all bases.

[@JasonVong]

Danny mentioned that in his video. That would've been cool

[@User74435]

What a great idea.

[@mleachphoto]

I still can't get excited about anything past the mark IV lol. The mark III is still one of my favourites from them.

[@fkironsofficial]

With no ND, same battery range, more weight, no mic jack and a much more narrowed aperture I do no see the need of parting ways with my mark 5. If they would’ve added a mic jack and cold shoe mount I could have overlooked the narrow aperture and no ND filter but as, is the mark V is a better camera for what it is in my book. Also at 1200 bucks is not too far from an A7iii at 1900 ish.

[@epiphoney]

rx100 vi: 9mm-73mm f/2.8-f/4.5 full frame equivalent: 24mm-200mm f/7.6-f/12.3 rx100 v: 9mm-26mm f/1.8-f/2.8 full frame equivalent: 24mm-70mm f/4.9-f/7.6 The mark i and ii were 100 mm equivalents with the 4.9 equivalent aperture...

[@mkygod]

yeah it sucks there's no mic jack, but then again what compact point and shoot camera does have a mic jack? Pretty much none so you shouldn't be expecting it. The closest thing would be a mirrorless camera that may have one, but mirrorless cameras are generally bulky or they have a removable lens which would make them not a point and shoot camera.

[@Sketchmee5]

Believe it or not,my RX100 M1 has faster Aperture than M6.IMHO,this is not worthwhile of upgrading.Really,Sony!

[@girardgarcia2530]

The touch screen is the only thing I want with the Mark VI.

[@JasonVong]

Touch Shutter 🙌🙌🙌

[@TarekMidani]

I honestly would pay extra *not* to have a touch screen

[@owades]

The difference between the previous price-point of $999 and the new one ($1,199) is $200, not $300. I too was surprised that Sony didn’t follow the previous pattern of introducing the new model at $999 and pushing the older ones down, but $1,199 seems reasonable for the added functionality.

[@JasonVong]

damn I'm Asian too how did I fail this basic math?!

[@BryanMiraflor]

"added functionality" idkkk pros and cons of the VI. Serious downgrade without the ND filter.

[@Lion_Hamza]

Where i live it costs 1500 dollar (Switzerland)

[@owades]

F. Moussa, the official Swiss price for the RX100-V is CHF 1,300 and that for the RX100-VI is CHF 1,500. The absolute increase is about the same as in the US, and the percentage increase is smaller.

[@LostUndertheSky]

I might sell my rx100m3 and upgrade to maybe rx100m5. I’ll use the money I make selling it towards buying an m5 on eBay. 24-200 is nice though for traveling but $1200 is too expensive. When I was traveling 24-70 was too limiting and wished for that extra zoom range. 24-200 would have been perfect. I think Sony could have done 24-105, why didn’t they. 24-105 is like a sweet spot without compromising too much of the aperture, idk.

[@petexian]

I really like my m5, especially for the low 1.8 f-stop and the pop-up view finder. I also have a m3 but I use the m5 instead. The lowest f-stop on the m6 is 2.8.

[@Autotrope]

Yeah definitely the point of the RX100 series is you have a bunch of choices depending on budget and features you want so those who want the reach can now go the VI, those who want a faster lens can go one of the others. Each model doesn't obsolete the previous model.

[@eugenegrewing2587]

The VI has four drops of stabilization. You hand handhold shots at something like one tenth of a second. Should be fine shouldn’t it?

[@4thetruth2012]

Well rx100vi is like a new line of rx100 series, so you really can not compare it to previous rx100 cameras and in the same breath complain about aperture... ... just ike you can not complain about 10x zoom lens not having f1.8 aperture... it's like Lx10 vs Tz200

[@JasonVong]

yeah I see it more as two different cameras because of the zoom.

[@4thetruth2012]

yea, it's like rx10ii and rx10iii/iv (but in rx100's case is even more of a difference) so i'd say rx100vi is not a successor to rx100v, but rather a new addition to rx100 ''fast lens'' compact series... It's good to have choices (fast vs long ... best regards

[@johntsingis]

I think you meant "prospective".

[@GadgetReviewVideos]

Well that loss in the Aperture can make a big difference for the HFR mode. And I’m seeing some differences in the sharpness with the mark 5 being the better in the overall screen. So I was going to go buy it today, but I’m on the edge and not sure now. The Mark VI does run cooler so the new processor is using a smaller nanometer on the chip silicon, that can be a plus. I’m so back and forth, errr. Price difference is the Lens, processor and the extra DDR memory for more cache at frame burst and touch screen. But the touch screen can be turned off. Newer menu (finally) and custom programmable buttons. But are these worth the extra $300 and slight loss of quality in the sharpness with the zoom lens? Yea, it could probably be corrected post but I expected better. As for a mic, with the new processor I don’t know why they can pipe the audio input into the micro USB, use a splitter so you can charge and use external audio as well. Seems like maybe (hopefully) this can be a firmware update if the designed it correctly inside with the hardware? Or why didn’t they out the mic jack on that accessory handle they are selling. Then everyone would buy that accessory. Does that accessory work with the mark V?

[@tpar83]

But if you're going to carry two RX100 on you, might as well just ditch them for an a6500 with a couple of lenses. M6 for me was a huge let down. I used to carry my M5 with me to many evening appointments, but now.... who knows?! perhaps even my phone will do a better job. Btw... good background jazz :)

[@JasonVong]

thanks! and advantage is crispy 200mm zoom in your pocket! phone zooming is bleh

[@markr041]

Two RX100's are still smaller and lighter than an A6500 with two lenses that give you the same low-light ability and the same reach. And, with the RX100's you get workable power zooms.

[@tpar83]

Hmmm. Sorry, but no. There is absolutely no way a RX100 (even the M5) could rival an a6500 with a f1.4 prime (or even an f1.8 for the sake of comparison) in low light situations, if that is what you meant by your comment.

[@markr041]

You are correct, the low-light ability of the A6500 with an f1.4 or f1.8 prime lens would be better (duh). But compare the size and weight of the A6500 with two lenses - a fast prime (one focal length of course) and the Sony telephoto with reach from 18mm to 135mm (which would get you 28mm -200mm equivalent, so you lose a lot of wide angle relative to the RX100 VI) to two RX100's, one in each pocket. That's a lot of weight and bulk to get that improved low-light. And if one is happy with the RX100 V low-light, then what's the gain?

[@jeromechiu]

I remember your unboxing video on the Mark V, and it feels like it was only yesterday!

[@JasonVong]

eyyy!!!

[@altayyar87]

i got it yesterday upgraded from my RX100M3, my biggest disappointment that they removed the playmemorys apps ! no time-laps !!!!!!!

[@tammydavid]

ok I feel better now for purchasing my Mark V last month. Saved me $300 too.

[@TheIkaika777]

I had my Sony RX 100 V for year and it’s never had a firmware update which sucks. Unlike Fuji which gives you awesome firmware updates all the time even on their cameras that are not on the market anymore.

[@eoghancullen]

I'm interested in getting a non DSLR camera for night time sky shots. Would the Sony rx100 mk5 be the best for that?

[@ahmedma3oda]

ppl say you sony should put mic import and 1.8 with 200mm come on it is not that simple.

[@rythie]

They should do an adapter for a microphone through the USB like goPros do. Also, it supports bluetooth now, but I’m guessing it doesn’t support bluetooth headphones and microphones, which smartphones do. I don’t see S&Q on the mode dial and I guess the apps are gone too, so no decent way to an in-camera timelapse (that doesn’t take up lots of space) - and again smartphone have timelapse apps. I’m guessing it also doesn’t do vertical format video properly or livestreaming. To me these cameras are competing for attention with smartphones, so it’s frustrating when they are not as good in some areas.

[@photojournalists]

The grip is an update. They had one before, probably not a copy of Zhiyun ;)

[@JasonVong]

hahaha

[@User74435]

I am considering upgrading from the RX100 MV because the zoom. Also I heard the 4k is better with the full pixel read out. Do you think the quality difference for video will be noticeable?

[@JasonVong]

It will probably be crispier! I would love to see a comparison

[@markr041]

The RX100 V has full pixel readout also. The quality of the 4K should be identical.

[@amyk2902]

I hope you do a video when you get the Vi in your hands comparing it to the V. I am looking at getting a point and shoot travel camera and thought about getting either the V or the Vi. Not sure if the 2.8 and No ND will be a deal breaker. Cant wait for further reviews on this. I am definitely not a vlogger but may use it to shoot short videos. I will mainly use it for pictures and the bigger lens is drawing me to the Vi.

[@AANasseh]

The external Grip/Tripod would have been ideal to incorporate a Mic Jack or their Multilink hot shoe! This is such a disappointment!

[@FireStrings85]

How many snaps did you have on yours when you sold it?

[@BarryMaskell]

RX100V get in quick while they’re still available as a run out - VI is a disappointment - no mic jack - 5 min record time - works great in Antartica to keep your hands warm and melt snow - and you need 5 batteries no ND filter

[@johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201]

I had a question J.. I recently bought a Crane V2 and the Sony cable but I still can’t get the shutter button to start/stop recording or take a photo. Is there a setting under the camera to allow it to work properly? I tried toggling all the USB settings in camera but to no avail. Im using an A7 II and a Crane V2. Thanks in advance home slice and remember folks,.. “You can’t go wrong with the Vong”. Also you and Danny need to put the band back together.. I miss the Live potato already!

[@JasonVong]

I could be wrong but I think it has to be crane plus and series 3 cameras. The older sony cameras can't do recording from the shutter that's why it's incompatible.

[@johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201]

Ahh ok. Good deal man, thanks!

[@MrKockabilly]

They also removed the built-in ND filter which impressed me in the mark V. But the reduced aperture (1.8 to 2.8), the specs that most matter, is a backward step. Made this model a toy compared to its predecessor.

[@maheshg212]

They give you one thing (touch screen) and take something else (bright aperture) away, so all models can remain in circulation.

[@johndaniel21343]

I dream of a day to get a small camera like this BUT with two interchangeable little lenses 24-70 mm F1.8 or better f1.4 and a 24-200 mm f2.8 zoom lens. I believe it will be PERFECT for traveling.

[@nicpixfoto3513]

I actually stabilized my 300 mm on the panasonic g7 on my crane plus which is more than 600mm in video !

[@tagtheshooterphotography2540]

also the mark IV and Mark V still have playmemories apps for timelapses.. u lose that in the mark vi I am sure.

[@JasonVong]

i have a feeling it will be that case as well

[@tagtheshooterphotography2540]

i still have the 4 and debating on upgraded to the vi

[@udoderunformige1250]

It seems that Sony dropped the PlayMemories Camera Apps for the Mark VI as well, just like with the third generation of the Alpha 7's. For me, that's another downside and a loss of a quite unique and useful feature. So I'll look for a used Mark III or IV instead, they are still really capable cameras today.

[@Lion_Hamza]

Udo der Unförmige im still rocking the rx100 iv and im so tempted for the Autofocus in rx100 v. Would the difference not be huge?

[@udoderunformige1250]

F. Moussa I don't know. I haven't either one of them so I can't tell you, sorry.

[@Lion_Hamza]

Udo der Unförmige thAnx for the answer :) hope you find the right one for you👍🏻

[@udoderunformige1250]

F. Moussa At least I can give you well, kind of an advice: If you've got the feeling that most of your photos are out of focus, if you're doing a lot of fast action photography like sports or so... maybe you should consider the mark V. But: go to a camera store and try it out before! If it feels like the AF is remarkable faster, maybe you should upgrade. If it doesn't feel *that* much faster or if you're confident with the focus in most of your photos, stick with the mark IV. For me, even a mark III would be enough, since I'm doing landscape photography mostly. But it would be only a backup camera for me, if I can't or don't want to bring my main camera for whatever reason.

[@Lion_Hamza]

Udo der Unförmige Yeah that seems reasonable, thanx mate :)

[@shigsho]

I would get the "new" RX100 VA. I prefer a faster lens.

[@buxz777]

why not just buy a mk4 and a panasonic tz100 for the same price ... you get two cameras ... one that will perform great at night ... one with a 25-250mm zoom ... its a much better choice than 1200 pounds for the vi

[@JasonVong]

good thinking!

[@Mikeybikey88]

Or just the RX100V, the AF is amazing and so is the 4K videos. I use wide angle much more than tele personally so I think the RX100V will still appeal to a lot of others who love 24mm @ F1.8

[@SoCalFreelance]

When do you think the a7S III will be released? I'm holding out for that camera.

[@therealsergio]

Gee, keeping two point-and-shoot cameras for the sake of having different lenses... you should consider an interchangeable lens camera, ya think?

[@JasonVong]

hahaha

[@therealsergio]

Hey, the 24-70 lens was 1.8 - 2.8, and RX100m6 would have rocked the world if they could have made it fixed 2.8, don't you think? They did that early on in the RX10 cameras, but of course had all the room in the world to do that. One can hope that they are saving up for a next version that would have 24-200/2.8, and THAT would be a total game changer. As it is, this is pause for thought for anyone not using this indoors with motion all the way out at 200.

[@framethis]

they should have made the model 6 18mm to 70mm and added a mike jack..Extending the focal range to 200mm at f.4,5 was a crazy move and in my opinion destroyed the model .which is why i didnt upgrade after m5 version .

[@SoundMediaVibes]

Is this what you call "talking with your hands"? :)

[@JasonVong]

😂😂😂🙌🙌🙌

[@allenoh9489]

need little help. used RX 100 V (around 600) or new RX 100 VA (990)? Thanks

[@ctkdh]

Do we really need gimbal for this camera? Or built in stabilization is good enough?

[@orlando9666]

Hieu Tran get a gimbal.

[@MohammadNABhuiyan]

hey jason I spent whole day to set up time lepse app in my sony rx100 vi but I couldnt set up. could you tell me how to do this ? and I saw its not in the compatible list.

[@JasonVong]

I think that app is removed. :( No longer available on the newer sony cameras

[@MohammadNABhuiyan]

Jason Vong what shell I do now ? How can I take time lapse with Sony rx100vi?

[@e1123581321345589144]

quick question: say you had a mk:IV and broke it, would you buy the V or VI as a replacement?

[@JasonVong]

the V

[@e1123581321345589144]

Thanks for the reply. Was already leaning towards the V. The 200mm lens is great but again the previous versions also have good enough reach so I feel the wider aperture is of greater benefit.

[@EstiloInAction]

Got the Markiii as a companion to my 5d Markiii 😊 love this little thing!

[@JasonVong]

all the mark iiis!!

[@EstiloInAction]

Jason Vong haha i know right?! Dope video man!

[@KartikJayaraman79]

Just like the RX10 III was not an upgrade to the RX10 II (no ND filter, slower lens), the RX100 VI is not an upgrade to the RX100 V. What I find frustrating about the RX100 VI is the removal of the ND filter, the same 5 minute 4K recording limitation (and I assume overheating as well) as well as the same small battery. Sony has disappointed us this time.

[@JasonVong]

I think it was a pretty big upgrade from 4 to 5. The Phase Detect AF on the 5 made it more enticing for me

[@KartikJayaraman79]

Yes the phase detect on the V was a big thing. Keep those great videos coming!

[@azizmehdi101]

Hi Jason: I had almost decided to buy a Sony RX100 Mark V. Then came the Mark VI. However, I am pretty disappointed. I am new to photography and this was going to be my first camera. Now I am confused. I want a camera that I can carry in my mobile riding jacket. I am not interested in videos as I have a GoPro 6 on my bike. Should I still go for a Mark V? I like the f1.8 to 2.8 and the ND filters. Would have loved the touchscreen but will that be a a big trade off?

[@caorach3354]

Even worse - Sony have the tech to make an infinitely variable optical ND filter that doesn't use polarization and that's what we were all waiting for as it means you can use shutter speed and aperture creatively and let the ND control the light getting in. Instead we get no ND at all making the camera pretty much useless, especially for video but also even if you just want still images of moving water in bright light, as one example. Once more the Sony engineers are ahead of everyone else, and the management and marketing department are 30 years behind them. A one stop slower lens and still no audio input plus no ND filter has sounded the death knell of the RX100 line. This camera is a mobile phone replacement with the easily marketable "big lens" and as such it should have been a new product line (say RX200 or something) as it doesn't have the stuff people like me need to use it as a pocketable DSLR replacement.

[@jamesohara4295]

If you want a Sony compact long lens camera then buy the Sony HX60V with a 24-750.mm

[@slam5]

question, i've both a v and vi now as i got a vi for a song. should i get sell my v and keep the vi or sell the vi for a profit and keep the v? i'm sure the vi will be 90$ or less for the difference in price.

[@Myview72]

HANG ON........ What is the aperture at 70mm on the MK 6 ? If its close to the 5 at 70 then 1.8 does not matter as much. I think 2.8 in terms of light is fine at 24mm (what is the equivalent.... 50mm?) If they are about the same at 70mm then the 1.8 does not matter. Just interested as I don't own either. I did not know the mark 5 had ND filters... the 6 has not then I would get the 5 for this alone. Having said that ... having a stabilised 200mm lens on a cam that size that shoots s-log... wow.

[@Photogearnews]

Andrew Moore aperture on the VI at 70mm is f/4 The trouble with slog is that the base sensitivity is ISO 1000, so you need that ND filter. I ended up shooting at 100fps in Full HD so the shutter speed was 1/200th with the minimum f/11 aperture and exposure was still slightly over exposed.

[@bromarvids5186]

I'm unsure whether to upgrade. I still get a great performance from my RX100iv. I'm thinking if I upgrade it would be the VA or the 5. I did a travel video recently in New Zealand with mine and Im getting used to the capabilities of these little camera. Check it out if you're keen to see the quality. If anybody has upgraded to the 6, what do you think of the upgrade?

[@edmundoerick]

I'm glad the grip is compatible with the older RX100 though. Im kinda hoping for another Sony trade in program so that I can consider trading in my RX100V (but no ND filter might be deal breaker for me)

[@paulmoadib4193]

Hello,did you try to plug your ninja v to your sony rx100m6?

[@violian5]

Why does this exist at $1200? You can get something that does most of what the RX100 VI can do for only $549 by getting the Lumix ZS100. The ZS100 is similar sized, supports 4K, also has a 1" sensor, has a 10x optical 25mm-250mm zoom, and has similar aperture of f2.8-5.9. Camera-wise, I also have a Lumix LX10 (competitor to the RX100 mark3 at fraction of price ) and am blown-away at the image quality. I'm not a Sony-hater - I have an A6300, RX10, and all my home theatre equipment is Sony.

[@tonyjames5444]

O the joy of computer geeks getting into cameras, they have to get the latest model so subsequently sell the camera they have to 'upgrade', this means there's plenty of good quality cheaper kit for photographers to purchase:) Manufacturers must love it.

[@alexanderlouis9572]

if both camera rx100V & rx100Vi same price ,which one better ...!?

[@Lion_Hamza]

Im still owning the RX100 iv, is the V so much better?

[@PaulRankinYT]

I still have my mk4 and will be keeping hold of it again, I absolutely love that camera so it’s still not worth me upgrading. If they had bought the audio jack and possibly a hot shoe back I’d of jumped all over it

[@2dimples_dad255]

Paul Rankin iv user here. Agreed!! Unless they can slap an apsc sensor inside the rx100 it's really not worth upgrading unless your a tech Hoarder

[@PaulRankinYT]

Chrispy Lyfe I’m definitely a tech hoarder but I’ve had a hard time letting go of the mk4 for no significant gain

[@2dimples_dad255]

Paul Rankin the slower lens was what killed it for me. They have a completely different line of point and shoot if you wanted the compact zoom.

[@PaulRankinYT]

Chrispy Lyfe I also think the focal length is going to make for some shocking low light photos and for me that’s where the mk4 shines is golden hour and night time lights

[@Lion_Hamza]

Paul Rankin im also rocking the RX100 iv, and im so tempted to get the 5 or 6. But only for one reason. The Autofocus. Our 4 is rocking Contrast detection Autofocus, while the 5 and 6 have phase detection Autofocus. And that’s really cool. What you think? Is our Autofocus also sufficient?

[@alanw.4511]

I would keep the Mark V for the F1.8 lens because of better low light pictures and bokeh. I use a point and shoot mostly in the evening in low light so the F1.8 is kind of important to me. Who cares about all that zoom. Just get closer to the subject/object.

[@Richardsumilang]

These are my exact feelings! I'm happy for the new processor, touch to focus, and they made the view finder quick to use! Not happy about the new lens because I rarely ever get to 70mm! Usually 24-50 is my ideal range and the beyond is used about 1% of the time. However, I do feel more comfortable cranking up the ISO with my A7r III so if this is anything like that then maybe, MAYBE, it might be ok. I'm hoping for it. Ordered one this morning as soon as it went on pre-order to compare it with a RX100 V. I'll be happy is noise level is better when having to crank up the ISO otherwise I'll keep my version 5. Or maybe my RED phone will come before this gets shipped and I will cancer this order! LOL

[@lawrencelin272]

price increase would be justified if they kept 1.8 and ND...really want the touchscreen but i'm sticking with the V

[@okaro6595]

That is the strategy of Sony. As the old camera is a faster lens people will keep it and there is less cameras in the second hand market so there will be more people buying the older models also

[@pabloyagani]

just bought the mark V my first camera hope it is worth it

[@JasonVong]

its an amazing point and shoot camera!

[@gixxerboy555]

i'm waiting for the RX100M7 ... just bought the RX100VA...it's underway..very curious...I've especially chosen the M5 instead the M6 because of the ND-filter and the 1,8mm instead the 2,8mm..i had tp pay "only"? ..650$ for theM5A.. ..sure I haven't the larger zoom and the touchscreen focus...but ..so what?

[@TopblokeGolf]

No mic maybe because it's just a point a shoot, start rigging up mics to it defeats the purpose of the camera i.e. A pocket camera, fir the same price you can get a a6500 , why not buy that?

[@JasonVong]

I just see a good amount of the people in vlogging community uses this camera so I'd figure they would cater more to them in the next iteration. Especially since they are marketing this as a vlog camera along with the grip

[@violian5]

The thing you'd be missing with the A6500 is finding a lens that can do 10x zoom range. The only one that comes close is the Sony SEL18-105G lens (a 6x zoom); and once you throw that lens on, the camera set-up becomes large and heavy; and your arms would get sore from doing vlogging. But then again, if you're making money doing Vlogging, then I'm certain the person would also invest money into getting multiple lens for their A6500. For vlogging, you could get a a tiny and lightweight 19mm F2.8 prime lens from Sigma (very favorable reviews) for only $169. When you're not vlogging, just swap out the lens to the SEL18-105G.

[@udoderunformige1250]

Well, Sony themselves claimed the Mark VI would be the *perfect* or at least the *best* vlogger camera, so I think most vloggers are right when they criticize Sony for not adding a mic jack.

[@TopblokeGolf]

Udo der Unförmige granted it does seem strange who they didn’t include a mic input, wouldn’t be cost as it would only cost them a couple of dollars to implement but if you’re gonna wanna use mics and be more professional then why not get a more capable camera

[@udoderunformige1250]

One reason for not getting a more capable camera could be the size. Many of them are larger than this tiny thing. That's imporant if you have to travel with as light gear as possible. The other... well, I consider that as a "reason" is marketing: Many people out there want to have the *newest* , the *best* , the *ULTIMATE* , so... At least they could have included some kind of 3.5 mm to USB adapter for a mic at this price point. But I'm with you that the Mark VI, at least for most people, is quite nonsense. They removed not only the built-in ND filter, but those PlayMemory Camera Apps as well. Most of them are... well, they exist, but one or two of them could come in quite useful sometimes. I guess most vloggers would still be fine with a Mark V or IV of the RX100, since they can do 4k as well. People who do more photography than video would be fine with even a Mark III, which you can buy used for quite good prices nowadays.

[@Alexander-tj2dn]

I prefer brigter lens on V. No mic jack on both cameras is a drawback, allthough.

[@adilonline8289]

In my opinion, i dont care how long the zoom is , im all about quality! Thats why ill pick mk5 over the mk6 anytime! The 1.8f, the ND filter, and compatibility with sony app store are good enough reasons to stick with MK5

[@rfreyder]

As an owner of both the IV and V models I was disappointed when I read about the changes planned for the VI. No mic jack is probably the biggest surprise for me as I was sure they would add this given that these cameras are so popular with the vlogging crowd. I won't be going for the VI. If I need that kind of reach I'll just use my RX10M4.

[@Lion_Hamza]

Rob Freyder as a user of the 4 and 5 is there a huge difference in the Autofocus? I own the 4 and im badly thinking to buy the 5.

[@rfreyder]

For me the phase detect focusing system in the V is probably THE reason to upgrade. The Eye AF is soooo cool. Works great for capturing my 3 year old granddaughter since she is always on the move! you might try renting one for a couple of days from lensrentals.com or one of the other rental shops. I rented an RX10M4 before I bought one. For such a big purchase its worth the money I think. I just checked you can rent an rx100V for $69 for 7 days from lensrentals.com. they'll probably rent it for as few as 3 days I think. Oh. and no I'm not affiliated with them. just a happy customer.

[@Lion_Hamza]

Rob Freyder Guess they don’t rent them in Switzerland ;)

[@MarlonKingShow]

Good video dude, over £1000 for a compact is silly and I think the rx100 mk6 will flop. I think the price of the g7x mk2 is right for compact cameras. I think £700-800 for 4K and 120fps makes sense as not everyone needs that, but I would buy an a6500 if I spent over a grand. These companies have no brains. Less is more, now they are getting greedy. I hope the g7xmk3 doesn’t let me down.

[@KeithHodgkinson]

I will keep my m4 for mainly video/low light but would like to buy the m6.Sony should keep the 24/70 as well as the 24/200 and renew on a bi-yearly basis. This could also happen with the RX10 m2 and RX10 m4.Interesting decisions to make Jason,i eagerly await your review.Thanks.

[@markr041]

Guess what? They just renewed the V - the new Va. It has the same innards as the VI (improved LSI). So there is a choice between long reach and the fast lens cameras with the same performance otherwise (you do lose that ND filter though with the VI, and the Va drops the in-camera apps).

[@Keepingitsimp]

Hey Jason, I own a A7iii, I’m considering investing in a second camera. I’m torn between the A6300 and a6500 any suggestions?

[@JasonVong]

a6500 purely for the IBIS

[@Keepingitsimp]

Jason Vong that was quick thank you! A6500 it is then!

[@LaneMcCall]

It was released around the September-October timeframe of 2016. I remember being in Afghanistan and thinking I'd wait for the 6!!!! Now I'm kind of let down though...

[@AydinOdyakmaz]

Thanks been awhile since I watched any videos on products. Not sure if this is a camera I'll buy might be cool on the Crane lightweight and many focal lengths on the fly. Hope your well brother, take care.