I Spent 4 Months with an INEOS Grenadier and Here's What I Learned

[@michaelyapp6099]

After 4 months and 4,000 miles, I too, love my grenny. Thanks Josh, appreciate your candor and your thoughtful insight.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thanks for the comment. Glad you're having a good experience too!

[@cyrilmoussoki3193]

Thank you for sharing. Greetings from France in Western Europe.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thank you. Just in Europe this past week - didn't make it to France, but was next door in Germany. I appreciate hearing from folks in other countries!

[@axellness]

Appreciate the videos! Don't have a Grenadier but I've been scoping around and seeing if I should trade in my Nissan Frontier and purchase this beast. Subbed!

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thank you for your comment. It's easier to make a decision now that dealers have them available to test. Hopefully, you don't live too far away. If you do drive, call and book your test drive rather than showing up. You can better arrange for a longer drive with more variety which will better help in making your decision. Good luck!

[@michaelb4705]

Go for it! You won't regret it. Josh said it well....there are a few little things, but overall...amazing!

[@SaltShack]

After 6 months I ordered a Quartermaster. After 8 months I bought a seconds wagon and would buy one in every color if I could.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

I love this comment! There is certainly something about the Grenadier that gets under your skin. You've obviously experienced that! Thanks for commenting.

[@PeterStix-v2u]

I habe my Grenadier 1 year and 20000km in Austria on travel in europe, the best decision i ever made. Full agreement with your video❤

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thanks for commenting! It's people like you with great experiences that help others who are still deciding.

[@Yoyomanmanholla]

Oh snap! I didn’t know it can support say and night brightness settings! 😮 thanks

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thanks for your comment - I'm glad you learned something. Set it one way with the headlights turned off, then turn them on, and you can set them again and those two settings will flip back and forth according to the lights being switched on. If you use the auto headlight feature, note that you can't make the lights on setting be too dim, as the auto feature sometimes comes on during the day if you go under a bridge, etc., which may make the screen too dim once you come out from that bridge before the lights go back off. You'll find a balance, but just wanted to point that out.

[@FS-vh7mf]

I’m going to see them this week! Have been driving Landcruisers for the last 25 years. Went to look at bronco’s, love the outside, not the inside. Waited for the new Landcruiser, really a prado, but don’t like it either. My other option is to import a landcruiser from Japan.

[@SaltShack]

I sold two 200 Series Land Cruisers and now have two Grenadiers and a Quartermaster on order. I swore I would never sell our 2021 Land Cruiser but having the Grenadier I just assume throw rocks at the Land Cruiser.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thanks for your comment - it will be interesting to hear your impressions once you get behind the wheel. Landcruisers are tried and true, but the Grenadier has a special character to it that you might really enjoy.

[@kevoolet]

I’m the 1000th subscriber 😂😂😂 keep on. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 love your content.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Howdy and Thanks! It's been a long while, so thanks for putting the icing on the cake. It's great to hear that you're enjoying the channel. I'll do my best to keep it up!

[@rhs_0938]

2:23-2:26 That Lexus RC-F looks really nice!

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Wow, you watch pretty closely! I had to go back to find the Lexus in the shot. Thanks for putting that on my radar.

[@overland_adventure_nz]

All good points, I decided to not buy a Grenadier because of the too high-end finishes to be practical to use as a work course every day and also the disappointment of not having a manual version available. Instead, I purchased a brand-new Toyota Land Cruiser 78 Troop Carrier with the V8 diesel and Manual transmission and extremely glad I went this way because it’s a much more basic vehicle without all the bells and whistles going off all the time.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Good points. I know that the utility versions of the Grenadier are not sold in the US and depending on your country you might have had that commercial version option. The lack of the manual option is either economics due to a low volume, or some regulation that we might not even know of. The take-up rate for the manual transmission has been in steady decline for years - perhaps they felt it was not worth offering. The bells and whistles are unfortunate byproduct of federal regulation and I only hold INEOS responsible in how they implemented some of the bells as I think they didn't need to be so harsh. Thanks for commenting. I enjoy hearing about the decisions of others who follow the Grenadier.

[@overland_adventure_nz]

@ in New Zealand we have the option of the two seater Grenadier plus the option of Petrol or Diesel power trains. I was following the Grenadier from the beginning when they were going to build a more commercial version with a manual transmission but I now have learned that to pass the European test standards etc they had to add all the nonsense instead making it more a SUV instead of a serious offroad 4x4 workhorse unfortunately. I’m just very lucky that I live in a country that’s free where we can still buy brand-new Toyota 70 series vehicles. Keep up with great videos .

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

@@overland_adventure_nz I had a feeling you weren't in the states - other countries got more options with the Grenadier even if you weren't able to get one because they were up against too many regulations in the end. One of the things I like doing when I visit a foreign country is see what cars are on offer that we simply don't get over here. I'm always amazed when I see things (and Toyota is a great example) that would sell like hotcakes if they were allowed into the country.

[@nickhey6661]

You made a smart decision. I did the same and bought V8 79 series. I've tested a Grenadier.... Ineos it's only about show off and city-style off-road.

[@overland_adventure_nz]

@ so true

[@tonyharter830]

Thank you for the informative videos. They really helped me through my decision making process.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thanks for your comment. Much appreciated.

[@JPsee24]

Appreciating your content & greetings from Canada. Considering ordering a 1924 edition. I’ve owned several Land Rovers including a 99’ Td5 so the drawbacks often mentioned don’t really phase me….dealer is 2.5 hrs away so just need to get there for a test drive 👌🏻

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Hello to you in Canada! - I've been an occasional visitor to Vancouver and Toronto (mainly in the 80's for work), but always got a special vibe from the folks there. The 1924 edition looks nice, and if you've got one reserved it will be a rare bird. I mention to those who plan to buy from a faraway dealer to make it an overnight trip where on day 1 you do a long test drive to see if there is anything that must be addressed before you accept delivery on day 2. Mine had a couple little things that they sorted, but would have been a major inconvenience had I taken delivery and then had to wait to take it back in. But if you're just going to decide if you'd like it - consider it a fun day out and make sure the dealer is waiting for you with a great plan to demonstrate putting the Grenadier through its paces. I find those who get invested in the features and how things work get the most enjoyment. So good luck and stay warm up north!

[@JPsee24]

@ good advice, I’m in Eastern Ontario, some beautiful cottage country and back trails to explore here. Keep up the good work!

[@JPsee24]

@ good advice, I’m in Eastern Ontario, some beautiful cottage country and back trails to explore here. Keep up the good work!

[@SaltShack]

If you are primarily an on road driver or an experienced Off road driver that can avoid full steering lock in certain situations, there is an easy way to improve the turning radius of the Grenadier, see agile off road.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thanks for the tip - I'll investigate.

[@nickhey6661]

After testing, reading, learning, watching about a Grenadier I made a decision - bought Toyota LC79.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thanks for commenting. We can't buy those in the U.S., so you are fortunate to have this option. It should serve you well!

[@RootBeerGMT]

Our local dealer probably has at least 70 on the lot-and they’ve been there for many months. I’ve inquired about EOY discounts. So far, not much. But hold tight

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thanks for adding this. I know this is happening, but when we zoom in on alot of dealer inventories, we find that they are bare bones base models that the true fans aren't so interested in. They will sell (eventually) to buyers who want the coolness of a Grenadier, but how the pricing plays out will be interesting to see. I think dealers are still focusing on brand awareness and bringing new people to the brand who aren't focused as much on what appears to be excess inventory. But you're right about the end of year approaching, so that may change things - conversely, the factory shutdown and delay of the MY 25's re-supplying the inventory may give them a reason to hold out for price. We shall see! Thanks for commenting.

[@alanaldpal950]

4 more to 1,000 If you were at 999, I would have subscribed 🙃

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

LOL - so close! It's been a very slow build similar to watching paint dry. Now that I'm close, I'm paying more attention to it and less wondering if and now wondering when. Thanks for your comment!

[@carlredmond3642]

Given that the engine and transmission are BMW, if necessary (an emergency or breakdown far from an Ineos dealer, foreign country where there are no Ineos dealers, etc) do you know if BMW dealers will perform service or repair on these components ?. I would not expect BMW to perform warranty repairs, but it would be nice to know I can use them where an Ineos dealer is not an option.😢

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

This is all still in its infancy, and I don't know the current state. I have heard of INEOS dealers collecting and trucking in vehicles for repair, however I don't know that there's so many Grenadiers on the road that this is an everyday occurrence for them to address. Best strategy would be to run the scenario by what would be your selling dealer and see what plans they have in place. I do know that there has been talk of Bosch certified repair, and BMW, etc. but don't know if that was ever formalized for the US. I guess it's a "stay tuned" situation.

[@PeterFearon-g8q]

Hi, did you sort your passenger airbag light settings ? I’m almost 18 months into my grenadier journey and loving it more and more .

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

I didn't really sort it as much as I installed the Wolfbox mirror that covers it up so that it's not so bright. There are settings to disable it, but I didn't really want to take that step. I'm glad that you're happy with your Grenadier - that's what I am hoping (expecting) to hear from owners. Thanks for commenting.

[@mallig3212]

Where are the settings to disable the airbag lights? And does it disable just the airbag indicator or other things as well? Thanks.

[@carlredmond3642]

Do you know if there has been any movement on issuing shop service manuals for the Grenadier ?. Do you think BMW are reluctant to allow Ineos to issue shop repair manuals and procedures for the engine and transmission ?

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

The latest I heard from my local Service Manager was that this is seeming more and more like an over-promised and not really deliverable item for the Grenadier. The original dream was to have a vehicle that could be worked on by a reasonably adept mechanic with the manuals nearby. What we ended up with was a unicorn with a BMW engine and ZF transmission that isn't something that can be worked on without specialized tools and proprietary equipment. In essence, making the manuals a moot point in many instances. (I'm paraphrasing what I heard, but it makes sense to me). So, it remains to be seen if an A to Z manual will ever become available, and instead perhaps sub-sections on the items that truly could be worked upon by the adept lay mechanic. Again, I have no real inside info, so we shall see what becomes of this.

[@carlredmond3642]

@@MyAutomobileObsession Thanks for your responses on the BMW Engine/Transmission & Manual questions. Much appreciated.

[@loum.4377]

Can you get your stereo volume any higher that #14? It doesn't seem high enough when on the open roads. Salesman said in 2025 the price will go up 7K.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Hi Lou - sorry if this is a duplicate reply, but I can't see that my original posted. I do not know of any way to boost the standard audio volume above 14, and guessing that you'd need to upgrade the audio system to get anything more.

[@loum.4377]

@@MyAutomobileObsession I was able to find a menue in settings. I increased the sound up 66%. Its very loud, at least it is working correctly. I love the car, I was lucky to get it in 6 months.

[@inglesconalan5360]

The constant warning alarms are annoying and designed to be so. I had the same experience (and alarm tone) in my pre divorce ex- BMW X1. You have to remember that the Grenadier is built in France and every year the all encompassing, soul crushing European European bureaucratic monster, tries to remove every aspect of pleasure from the lives of us EU citizens and especially drivers (15 minute cities, mandatory car sharing, own nothing and be happy policies are well on the way here). The nagging alarms are symptomatic of power mad, nanny state thinking. RIP Peanut and Fred. 😢

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

You had me at soul crushing...! I agree that many of the complaints we have can actually be found in any new vehicle and that's disappointing. In the US, we're a slight step behind the EU but basically taking on the same regulations (not sure if that may change with the political weather), so I can only be frustrated in how INEOS implemented some of these annoying sounds and ticks as I do think they could meet compliance without being so harsh. Thanks for commenting!

[@inglesconalan5360]

@@MyAutomobileObsession Thanks for posting your videos. I am looking forward to seeing some of your off road trips in the Grenadier.

[@noel5826]

Not for me. Very expensive . Cheaper alternatives with equally as good, if not beter pedigrees.

[@MyAutomobileObsession]

Thanks for your comment. The good news is that there really are a lot of good choices for us to pick from. I hope you have your eye on something great!