Ian Bremmer - 2024’s Top Geopolitical Risks | Prof G Conversations

[@arunsar7893]

26:15 This interview is 2 weeks old and several of the steps Ian mentions which will lead to a regional war have already happened in the past two weeks.

[@iart2838]

#1 problem is money in politics, we actually don't have a government, just people who serve corporate interest and oligarchs

[@chargersina]

I know and this dude is trying to buy some more power.😊

[@bdpatton2]

We have corporations, not countries.

[@har8397]

💯💯💯 demand your representative eliminate the the private funding of public elections!!!

[@kurtnunn6116]

I love the way Scott and Ian parse through their areas of disagreement and discuss & listen to each other’s views with genuine interest rather than trying to dominate and vanquish one another’s arguments. That’s hard to find these days

[@reginasemenenko148]

Refreshing.

[@gelgiz5039]

I am impressed by Ian Bremmer's critical thinking and honest answers to Professor Galloway regarding the complex issue of Israel and the Palestinians. He effectively addressed why people feel strongly and empathetic towards the Palestinian people. Calling individuals sympathetic or empathetic towards Palestinians as anti-Semitic without considering the issue's complexity is a cop-out. I hope Professor Galloway learns from this conversation. I follow him on Pivot and used to be disappointed with his views on Palestinians. Sometimes it seemed that he confuses the Palestinian people with Hamas. This was one of the best conversations I have heard this year. Thank you so much.

[@samhamels]

At 12:30 Scott claims something about a certain age group in the US, 50% of which "support Hamas"... I tried to find the source for that stat but couldn't find it. Does anyone know more? Seem like a crazy number/claim.

[@simonclarke2939]

You cannot find a source for it because its not true!

[@lembergnative7731]

here you go: harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/HHP_Dec23_KeyResults.pdf the antisemitism part starts on page 48. The statement "they support Hamas" is somewhat oversimplified, but it's not totally without merit

[@MsSme123]

Childhood through algorithm has been a thing in the UK for a while now. As a teacher I see the devastation all the time.

[@scottdawson3604]

I disagree with Ian Bremmer at abot 7:20 . If foreign leaders announced that Trump is dangerous/bad/incompetent that would add to Trump's strength. People don't trust authority (in many cases for good reason), so why would anyone be convinced by what a leader of a foreign nation has to say.

[@GetJesse]

Yep.

[@markpukey8]

Some would. But many others would think "gosh, if these other people whose opinion I value feel this way... maybe I should reconsider this". It will weld existing MAGA base types closer to Trump. And the same for various D's and progs away from Trump. But the 30 odd percent of Americans who are in the middle...? I suspect this would influence a lot of them to think about the significance. Especially if it were world leader and a whole bunch of business leaders saying "Trump will create uncertainty and be bad for business" at the same time.

[@bazscott]

You don’t interfere in the elections of other countries - that’s a cornerstone of diplomacy. The fact that Americans think it would be ok to - in their own election - tells a lot about how screwed American politics is.

[@izzytoons]

@@markpukey8 Is 30% in the middle? It feels like maybe fifteen. Some independents, some Democrats, and a few silent, death threat terrorized Republicans.

[@markpukey8]

@@izzytoonsIt's really hard to say. "Officially" American voters who do not belong to any formal political party are about 1/3. But as you probably know as well as me... a good chunk of them just reflexively check the D or R box on every ballot anyhow. But theoretically they are "open to being persuaded".

[@phill6945]

Beginning @ 11:30 It would seem even Prof.G has trouble differentiating between antisemitism and anti Israeli sentiment.

[@anitamurkes9511]

It is hard, since antisemitism (not antizionism) has erupted simultaneously here in Europe ! And it’s hard to understand the scope of antiIsrael feelings that started a few days after 71/0 many days before Israeli defense attack ! And the total denial of the brutally raped, mutilated women ! Total silence where there usually is an outrage ,especially after Metoo!

[@zhinan888]

USA is the biggest risk to herself, by far

[@kapdolkim1914]

People, please do not confuse anti-semitism with anti-Israel.

[@Rnankn]

Or even anti-authoritarianism and democratic critique of the Far Right with anti-Israeli or anti-Zionism.

[@JerrySeriatos]

no semites, a linguistic group, includes the Arabs as well.

[@Tamar-sz8ox]

The majority of Jewish people are zionists, to some degree. Israel has a right to exist. So it’s a conflict

[@Tamar-sz8ox]

@@JerrySeriatosanti semitism , it was a term created - which ultimately means people who hate Jewish people .

[@MsSme123]

They are one and the same in the world if not on paper.

[@kathleentrinity7367]

Yes, Ian, being against Nentanyah is not antsemitism or against Israel. However, maybe reaction to AIPAC is a reason for many being anti Israel, along with settlements in the West Bank.

[@devo196047]

The settlements are a major problem for Israel in many international eyes. And that becomes a problem for Jews elsewhere. How does that get fixed? If there isn't a solution to that that involves withdrawal or a major compromise elsewhere exchange for staying (I don't believe that option is realistic, but I could be wrong), they will not know peace in our life times.

[@mirabaric5367]

What a joy to listen these two amazing intellectuals. So much to learn from them, and it's free. Thank you both! Why we can't see something like this on regular TV and people can be educated (instead of depressing Dateline, 48 Hours ...?)

[@lat1502]

I have watched many, many interviews with Ian Bremmer and learned a lot. This interview, for me, was one of the best I have seen.

[@user-nc9pc3gr4c]

So the democrats have weaponized every institution and started 3 wars are worried about Trump doing the same thing? Interesting

[@jimmydee1130]

Summary: Ian Bremmer says Orange Man Bad. SMH.

[@SzTz100]

Come on, I'm 5 foot 7, I don't want to be a dictator. I sit in front of the computer all day for God's sake.

[@carmenmccauley585]

Little man syndrome is what it is. And it's not cool.

[@izzytoons]

Just as not all small men have small-man complese, not all small-man complexes lead to the grandeur of dictatorial ambitions obsessions. I say this being just 5'8.

[@marcialabrahantes3369]

you're likely above average on testosterone but the point was factitious

[@theresakohler-ruda1292]

They can't write the laws of democracy fast enough to update the parameters of grey loopholes. Evil selfishness seeks the cracks. Protect our kids ❤

[@singingway]

The regulatory model for protecting the environment has failed, for the very reason you cited.

[@pjdaddio]

Strong believer in "Grade 13" as I like to call it ... a post high school community service year (or 2). This experience at the age of 19 will provide connection, purpose, development and a spirit of goodwill to young adults in a most critical year in their development. This service could be military, AmeriCorps, Salvation Army, etc.

[@jim2376]

Excellent idea.

[@oldschoolpanels]

Have you seen the suicide statistics for military? Im sorry but I am hesitant to blindly send my son or nephews to a system that for whatever reason makes people self harm at alarming rate

[@JohnDorian-j7x]

That's for soldiers that have been deployed. This won't be anything like that; it'll literally just training and learning how to take bullshyt and remain stoic, to follow orders, and eventually to lead. But, none of these will be deployed overseas to fight wars... the political will for creating such a system in the first place would essentially necessitate that that is written into its foundational guidelines/governance/etc.@@oldschoolpanels

[@pjdaddio]

Yes, I've studied military suicides in depth and have even approached the military with a transition program to help our service members. This is an entirely different problem that requires a different solution. Remember, what I suggested in the Grade 13 idea is a community service year. A military component of which would probably more likely resemble ROTC. I truly appreciate the concern in your comment because that's how we're able to see multiple angles when problem solving.

[@direwolf6234]

easy for these two to 'volunteer' others for service when neither of them did it ...

[@rabukan5842]

“Algorithms do not replace nurture.” Ian said it perfectly. And we will lose democracy to algorithms if we don’t get off the social media train quickly. As someone overseas with the military, I agree that one powerful answer is mandatory national service, which can teach young Americans that more than their own self interests are at stake.

[@romoore2094]

Democracy has always brought disaster to countries. It's the balance of power of govt and people that works best. We had that one, decades ago. We've allowed corruption to win over our freedoms

[@mohammadalikhail4655]

You are both part of the zyhonists people and don’t see the concentration camp. Murdering children, hospitals, and refugee camps. Shame on you both

[@AcmePotatoPackingPocatello]

Legacy News is Corporate Hegemony news...it has very little in common with Newspapers of the 1950s thru the 80s. Corporations strive to maintain status quo, warfare, drug pricing, lobbyist power, monopolies. Initially algorithm was manipulating for sure. Now though it is shown humans are pushing thru....i.e. TWITTER FILES as an example. It was shown by Matt Tialbi and Glenn Greenwald proved bald-faced propaganda and steering by Legacy Media / FBI, CIA all working in tandem. I used to be in your camp....fact is my PARTY is out of control with WARFARE, and next level election interference AGAINST THIER OWN PARTY, aka RFK JR.

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

when they say algorithm they actually mean "monopoly on the truth". what the internet did is free people from the constraints of the system, aka. the gatekeepers of public opinion and let everyone freely express their opinion, and what happened is that ugly truths couldn't be hidden anymore - they were shared globally. now, everyone knows what's going on behind the curtain. we all see how rotten these would-be rulers are. the system still tries to regain control of the information space but the genie is out of the bottle... people want to forge their own destiny, and not what some powerbroker intends for them. i think this is just the start... we have seen nothing yet.

[@izzytoons]

In just a few short years there won't be much difference between AI developed and algorithmically implanted thought viruses in mindsets globally. Modern White Supremacy is entirely an algorithmic outcome, though not by AI yet, but by bad actors creating and broadly disseminating misinformation. Real fascism is founded in racism; thyat's why words like "blood" and "purity" and such always come up. And there is always a significant portion of the populace ready to rally behind their racial supremacy and the need to protect it. The Great Replacement is entirely a fascist plea to maintain white supremacy, which is undeniably racism, by definition. Honest conservatives producly defend that. Dishonest ones pretend it's not so.

[@rumchjoe]

I agree - Social Media Algorithms are the hammer that pounds the wedge issues in, resulting in the amplification of divisiveness on issues such as identity politics, immigration and US domestic politics.

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

Well stated, thank you

[@leonhuynh2641]

Social media are very addictive

[@-K-K-1]

Algorithms written by the very same jews...so how do we all interpret that?

[@singingway]

And climate change. The algorithms favor science denial because it's more emotionally charged than science facts. That's how millions of people end up misinformed.

[@123axel123]

Prof G must have been shocked that Bremmer criticises Israel severely. Kudos to Ian to dare to criticize. Ian states that it would be better without a 2024 election. So much for democracy when it does not go your way.

[@wg33-84]

Voluntarism in national service is only doable if kids don’t need to go straight into work to support themselves or their families.

[@direwolf6234]

and that it's mandatory for all .. no wealthy kids get to duck it ....

[@General8675]

We'd still pay everyone.

[@afctaylor12]

There was saying in uk if you gave the defensive budget to council and put them in charge of defence there would be civil war in less than 24 hours . If national service came about each state would in effect have it's own army .

[@JAGRAFX]

Would like to see the inclusion of the handicapped in any sort of Bill in Congress for voluntary service to the Country. Too many "handicapped light" individuals like myself cannot serve in the military, life-saving services, fire departments or police forces because of their affliction. The Country is passing on some real talent that could be put to productive use.

[@General8675]

@@JAGRAFX The Question is in what capacity would you serve? also, government agencies reach out all of the time to the disabled community to hire.

[@johnvonleibniz]

These sessions with Ian are always incredibly informative and somewhat comforting. Hope to see more in the future.

[@martavdz4972]

Unfortunately, I think he´s wrong on Ukraine and Russia will just keep going, perhaps even threatening Europe, which would have an impact on world economy. Russia has switched to war economy, it´s churning out propaganda about destroying Europe. You don´t end that by accepting a piece of the country you wanted to conquer, and "that´s it, we go home and change our mindset". When has THAT ever happened?

[@someguy2135]

I respect the analysis of Ian, but that is why I personally found this interview to be the opposite of comforting! What did you find comforting about it?

[@johnvonleibniz]

​@@someguy2135 It's comforting to hear a series of thoughtful, sober analyses on these issues. Currently, everything from geopolitics to antisemitism gets viewed through an emotionally laden, ideological lens, which- naturally reduces the complexity that surrounds these topics.

[@someguy2135]

@@johnvonleibniz I suppose it is reassuring to get the unvarnished truth, even if the truth hurts.

[@antonomaseapophasis5142]

10:23 Bringing religious far right into national service in Israel There are now three generations of Israelis who have served as muscle to suppress Palestinians, who have used military force to manage millions of human beings who do not have full human rights. Much the same as the Spartan culture incorporated the oppression of Helots, Israel has a national culture which has incorporated the oppression of Palestinians

[@justapedn1]

National service is not voluntary if it’s compulsory. That’s not to say it shouldn’t be compulsory, but let’s not get that mixed up with *volunteering* to serve.

[@TheDrLeviathan]

Most US government organizations, including the military, don't want to waste resources on people who dont want to be there

[@justapedn1]

@@TheDrLeviathan I spent 30 years in the Navy. Couldn’t agree more. I just didn’t want to expand on my remark above.

[@magalengo]

It’s always amusing that people who didn’t pay for their education, and never did any type of service, want everyone else to do volunteer service. I did 4 years in the military as an 18 year old, and don’t wish that same experience on anyone.

[@MaxPaint-c8m]

They are both living in a bubble

[@direwolf6234]

nice being either born on 3rd base .. or into an economy where school was cheap and jobs were plentiful ...

[@AdamBechtol]

Aye.

[@martavdz4972]

They didn´t say specifically what type of service, they basically said helping the country in any way. My uncle helped out at a children´s swimming pool for his service, that was OK.

[@direwolf6234]

civilian conservation corps...@@martavdz4972

[@ecyranot]

I'm glad he clarified to anti-Israel, not anti-semitism. I think students have been "raised" intellectually/educationally to identify oppressors and oppressed and react accordingly. Israel is the oppressor, Palestinians the victims. Obviously the situation is highly complex, but nuance is a casualty when a group reacts as passionately as we've seen, particularly on campuses. In the specific events going on now in the war, it is understandable to be vocally anti-Israel. It is not my sense, based on what I have seen and heard, that Israel has done all they could to minimize casualties of civilians. And the Israeli government's statements have revealed a ruthlessness that bolsters that. They are killing children at an enormous rate. How could they not, dropping 2000-pound dumb bombs in such a densely populated area. This is an infanticide, not genocide, but infanticide. How many terrorists are they creating?

[@har8397]

I LOVE Ian because he is the ONLY passion person in the media publicly calling things how they are especially when it comes to Isreal....

[@megfotakis627]

This talk is so amazing! How insightful! I will need to listen to listen to this again and again! Thank you from a single Mom working two jobs for twins in college! You give me HOPE!!!!❤

[@luarchitect-iu2hq]

Thank you! Great discussion. Ian has the best grasp of all the interlocking complexities of geopolitics that I know of.

[@singingway]

Except climate change.

[@karengates5321]

He has a short video (1min- ~5min) on KZbin most every day. I think most are with the account of GZERO. Worth subscribing.

[@LuckyDogProductions]

I could listen to these talk and swap ideas all day. Galloway & Bremmer 2024???? Let's get these youngsters in there.

[@AdamBechtol]

Heh :p

[@reginasemenenko148]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would actually have a reason to vote!!!!!!!

[@scottweaverphotovideo]

I'm amazed that Scott Galloway blatantly equates criticism of Israel with anti semitism. I have MANY very close Jewish friends. In no way do I associate the crimes that are being committed on Gaza with my friends, most of whom also oppose this war.

[@user-nc9pc3gr4c]

The funny thing is Jews are typically woke. Now all of their woke ideology group has turned on them. 😂😂😂. Like you

[@aurelia5614]

No, does not equate the two, he does the opposite. At 18:00m he points out that many people say there is a difference between anti-semitism and being anti-Israel, and he thinks it's a 'legitimate and fair point' they are making. So, essentially he agrees with that sentiment.

[@mike_lowndes]

@@aurelia5614but utterly fails to make the same distinction between Hamas and Palestinians.

[@JoeClaus-u5j]

Finally an educated and informed intellectual - Ian Bremmer - says very specifically what I've been thinking since mid-October 2023.

[@anteantekeert8235]

Thank you Ian and Scott for this great conversation.

[@didudi5057]

anyone knows the name of that book Ian mentioned near the end of the video?

[@petrspacek3881]

He mentioned Watts 1953. I Ian means Alan Watts, there is interesting book The Way of Zen, but from 1957.

[@Hexanitrobenzene]

@@petrspacek3881 I heard "The Wisdom of Insecurity" by [Alan] Watts.

[@woodystefeneylee7290]

The best one! Thx Ian.

[@jameskinney4543]

Two of my favs !! Great show

[@wg33-84]

More than 90% haven’t heard about Taiwan elections. Ian is a legend but he’s not amongst normal people enough.

[@paulheydarian1281]

Can the 90% find Taiwan on a world map?

[@JerrySeriatos]

@@paulheydarian1281 Yes, unless they are US educated. Can Ian find it?

[@Charmsy420]

I just cry lold at this. Spot on.

[@Aminah6623]

Hey Scott, have Douglas MacGregor on.

[@JD-lt7uv]

The problem is that institutions have given us plenty of reasons not to trust them. Americans are waking up to how much they've been played by their "public servants."

[@imrank7]

Sadly Scott’s bias shining though - 1. Using antisemitism and anti- Israeli government interchangeably 2. Claiming Israel unlike Muslim countries isn’t allowed to engage in wars without countries holding them accountable because they are antisemitic 3. Claiming young ignorant Americans are naively choosing to support hamas (I think he meant to say Palestinians). Mr Bremer did a stellar job teaching Scott. Kudos to Scott for listening and bringing a descending opinion.

[@ctormin]

Yes. International affairs aren't Scott's forte but still, he came across quite ignorant. Ian schooled him with kindness, as the gentleman he is

[@benjaminmirt5029]

I disagree on this. I think Bremmer made some really spicy claims about the Situation. How do you exactly sperate Hamas and Palestians effectively and operatively?

[@markpukey8]

@@benjaminmirt50292.1 MILLION people live in Gaza. By ISRAELI ESTIMATES there are around 30,000 Hamas fighters. By ISRAELI MATH that means there are more than 2 million people who are Palestinian, and live under Hamas rule, but are not trying to murder Israelis or deny their right to live, exist, be a government or anything else! (according to TODAY "In 2021, a senior IDF commander said that Hamas was believed to have around 30,000 fighters. That figure matches recent US estimates of the number of fighters Hamas had before the conflict started") If the local crowd is 60 to 1 normal civilians, not fighters, don't you think it's on the guy with the artillery to be sure he's aiming it AWAY from the civilians? If you think it's important to have a way to separate them (and I agree with you on that), then maybe you should also agree with Ian that it's ISRAEL that needs to figure this out BEFORE killing tens of thousands of civilians. That's not "spicy", that's a "war crime".

[@benjaminmirt5029]

@@markpukey8 No on the contrary actually: If these are innocent Palestinians why dont they prosecute Hamas or hand out Hamas to Israel? 60 to 1 is a steep ratio of armed forces to total population. For Germany that would mean 1.4 million Soldiers. And what you are saying is as if saying only X % of Germans in WW2 were Nazis so dont do Y. Palestine Voted Hamas, they knew the agenda, they support the Agenda actively or passively. A people has a responisbilty for their goverment and their actions. Dont shift responisbility. To the other point: There is no army in world history tryin harder and doing more to not kill civilians than Isreals army. Its ridiculous. But and this doesnt seem to be heard: Hamas is deliberately using civilians as Shields and didnt move even though they where told to move. You shift blame and responisibilty and its always the same direction, always.

[@benjaminmirt5029]

to put it into even simpler terms: if an associate of mine punched you in the face and you demand justice but there aint any and he keeps going and then u decide to punch back because I also dont do nothin, the freakin least i could do is move away to not get hit too. isnt that comprehensible? @@markpukey8

[@LyNguyen-p8m]

Prof G- great discussion! please keep bringing in people with various perspectives- even if they are totally different from yours!!!!

[@billyv2210]

Wow - Ian nailed the Israel/Palestine conflict - wasn't expecting that...

[@markpukey8]

I found his "I'm not Jewish, but I've been on the receiving end of antisemitism, probably because I'm an intellectual and wear glasses" incredibly funny. Very self aware, and very aware of the image he presents. And yes, I found his insights in regards to the latest round of stupidity very balanced and nuanced too. I often disagree with Ian, but I always appreciate his thoughtful points of view.

[@bearowen5480]

This was wonderful to watch. I've never heard of Ian Bremmer, but I can't remember listening to anyone with whom I so thoroughly and profoundly disagreed with on every point he made! It was a great fundamental confirmation of my own views, and I thank him for that. I now realize that if a significant portion of Americans agree with him, we have more to fear politically than just the lunatic Left. Recently I have been lulled into an itchy complacency by listening to liberals like Alan Dershowitz who made me believe that there are still a swath of democrats we can do business with. Now Ian Bremmer has pulled the scales from my eyes. He made me realize that there is a sinister element of our population that can still probably define what a woman is, disagrees with gender reassignment surgery for teenagers without their parents' consent, thinks that legalized looting is bad, and that traditional education is good, who nonetheless believes that big government is the answer to all our problems. Forewarned is forearmed.

[@Jensth]

Gender is not even on the top 50 of most concerning problems. You have been duped.

[@markpukey8]

I'm not sure what rock you've been hiding under. Bremmer has had his face, name and books plastered over almost every "centrist" media on the planet for 20 odd years. Whether you agree with him or not, the fact that you say you NEVER HEARD OF HIM says a whole lot about you. Your long paragraph screed about what you THINK he represents is also pretty weird. I watched the whole video, I've read a few of his books, I disagree with him on several issues, but I never heard him weigh in on any of "". I think that's all the voices in your head or something.

[@tomkk1000]

Outstanding discussion! Thank you dor thoughtful analysis of our world and national problems.

[@odysseyindigo2023]

50:17 I truly enjoy Scott’s Podcast (thank you for it) and having Ian Bremmer as a guest 🎉to hear into a turbulent year is sublime. However, both of you need to listen to a person who is probabiy your least favourite person (and one of mine). I’m listening to this on my birthday in May - May 11th.2024. Recently, I held my nose and listened to an interview with Steve Bannon. I think it was by FrontLine - one of those MANY interviews they did to try to unravel what got Flump into the Presidency in the 1st place. 2.5 hours of candid convo (basically him talking most of the time) I am fairly certain he has a better grasp of why the core base of Trumpites are so pissed off & disillusioned. It is not simply that they are perhaps on average bigoted, white, & largely male: they watched the HEIST in 2008 & probably lost a good deal of money. If they didn’t, they watched people they love lose money & they watched the government BAIL OUT the culprits. Confidence in the American system was lost. Bannon readily admits he comes from modest roots -and thus angered him. He saw the elites on both political sides (R & D’s ) to blame & he was looking for his man to wreak havoc & seize control. That’s exactly what they did. Was it better? No. Did he care? No. But that may not be of course answer to why they exist & why they stick to Dump like glue, but it IS true they have a right to be angry. It’s just that some of their anger has been simply redirected as mob hatred. You never mentioned this fact once - neither Ian or you, Scott. That rage was simply hijacked.

[@WobbliesIWW]

This is extraordinarily good -- so thoughtful. I'm an unlimited, enormous fan of Scott Galloway, who I think is the most honest, perceptive, caring observer of what's happening in America and in his own life story. So I say this with caution, because it's hard to make this point --- it is so difficult to have a nuanced discussion of Israel/Palestinian issues. It's also so important to recognize that there are actual, vicious, brutal anti-semites out there, and critics of current Israeli policy must denounce them and try hard to distinguish their view from these dangerous, terrible neo-Nazi jackasses. What I would try to tell Scott is that a lot of younger people are increasingly critical of Israel because of concern for the Palestinians... what are these people supposed to do? A two-state solution with the post-1967 Occupied Territories returned to Palestinians, provided they are willing (as some have said) to recognize the existence and legitimacy of Israel. But, as Ian Bremmer, says: it isn't going to happen.

[@slobobba]

I opened the comments to see how this was addressed. Thank you for introducing it in a sober fashion. It continues to “flummox” me that otherwise perceptive people cite pro-Palestinian = pro-Hamas = anti-Semitic as fact. I look at that as a profound blank spot. Without pro-Palestinian there is no peace for anyone in that region. I’ve read Osama Bin Laden’s 1996 and 1998 fatwahs against the US. Nevertheless, at the highest levels of government academia and media, OBL hates us for our freedoms. Fortunately there’s a ground swell of younger people who lack the blank spot where cause and effect are glaringly obvious.

[@slobobba]

I opened the comments to see how this was addressed. Thank you for introducing it in a sober fashion. It continues to “flummox” me that otherwise perceptive people cite pro-Palestinian = pro-Hamas = anti-Semitic as fact. I look at that as a profound blank spot. Without pro-Palestinian there is no peace for anyone in that region. I’ve read Osama Bin Laden’s 1996 and 1998 fatwahs against the US. Nevertheless, at the highest levels of government academia and media, OBL hates us for our freedoms. Fortunately there’s a ground swell of younger people who lack the blank spot where cause and effect are glaringly obvious.

[@stevenochog1707]

This was indeed a great conversation. So glad you said this, it was truly confounding how Scott and Kera seemed attribute pro Palestinian sentiment to negative propaganda and naivety. Huge blind spot but understandable because of the recent conflating of antisemitic and anti Israeli definitions.

[@mattisseeyewear9681]

Palestinians want a state “from the river to the sea” . That is not going to happen !!! Let’s be specific about what is not going to happen … Human nature is simple : You do not reward bad behavior . Ian Bremmer and his progressive/ liberal partners treat Palestinians as if they were inferior chimpanzees and as poor creatures that need a special treatment that are being wrongly treated … fact is , Israeli Arabs and Moslem citizens live a dignified and productive life in Israel … if Palestinians want sovereignty over the lives ? A conversation with the mirror is where they need to start ! The Abraham accord( especially with all its gulf state members) has gotten as far as it’s gotten , no thanks to progressives like Bremmer , but because of the conclusions that Palestinian leaders are corrupt to the core , they exploit and manipulate and steal all the money the members of the gulf state Abraham accord ( we’re talking about many many billions of dollars ) came to the realization that Palestinians are not going to elevate themselves like Israeli Arabs have in past 70 + years … Conversations with the mirror is where Palestinians ought to start !!! Time is not on palestinians side …

[@Santor6]

Honest? Don t smile me. He is voice of USA Corporations. Nothing more. Go and find who paying him. You would be surprised. And about Israel... well it has lost all sympathy and good will after killed 20000 civilians. Nothing personal. It is criminal country.

[@singingway]

Everyone on here needs to listen to the Planet Critical podcast. And see how the geopolitical is dependent upon the geophysical.

[@suzannetevlin8439]

Always excellent, Scott. Thanks to both of you.

[@akumasdeception]

The reason why Americans hold Israel to a different standard is because we're funding their military operations, how hard is that to understand Prof G?

[@anthonypai6127]

Great discussion. Ian Bremmer is outstanding.

[@john1425]

He could learn from Zeihan. Less bias would go a long way.

[@jeannieluna3009]

Thank you both.

[@taniasingh6367]

Wow.. Ian Bremmer surprised me here.

[@Wendy-gs4qt]

Excellent conversation

[@aeophylus]

You may want to include the Little Green Man standing at 5’ 7” who is Zelensky

[@reginasemenenko148]

Putin is a butcher. Karma will eventually serve.

[@Korp49034]

Such a thoughtful dialog, thank you

[@sylvieboulanger8155]

If any country said anything about Trump, the US would tell them not to interfere in US politics.

[@Xylos101]

Australia is directly responsible for the first impeachment.

[@ElijahSmith]

But the US interfere in other states politics, why should it be one-way street? How is it fair?

[@Stadtpark90]

And rightfully so.

[@GetJesse]

Yep!

[@reginasemenenko148]

Already happened.

[@bradp4036]

i do love how people who have never been in the military go to national service as an option for society. It's not a bad idea per se, but i would really like to hear how these guys would do their part in that service, rather than decide for others what is good for them

[@Tom-le3yy]

Trumps were some of the quietest years in recent memory. Not only were there no wars started, he even managed to broker peace in the middle east. How do these so called strategists not understand the basic concept of deterrence…

[@boycotte]

How dare you write such things?? The intellectuals above explained how Trump was and is THE DANGER!🤣

[@kyleinpa5285]

@@boycotteYou have Trump Derangement Syndrome

[@fabioq6916]

He did NOT broker peace, he led to Oct 7 by caving to the Israelis totally.

[@ClownCarCoup]

What did Trump do that would have prevented a Hamas attack? It's simplistic to blame presidents for events that happen on their watch. Should we blame Trump for the pandemic?

[@supersleepygrumpybear]

Remember when Trump bankrolled the Covid vaccine? I do!

[@PukhtunistanMovement]

The problem started with the collapse of soviet union. America became drunk with all this power, and Israel took full advantage of it. World was watching it. And with time nations, particularly Iran, were cornered to a point that it started manufacturing missiles. Internet and GPS changed the whole scenarios. Afghanistan proved that power and technology have limits. Houthis are on the same path. U.S. is slowly coming to its senses. Israel is also realizing its limits.

[@ghrosenb]

All Afghanistan proved is if people don't want to fight to protect their own freedoms, they will lose them. America didn't lose Afghanistan. The Afghans did. The goal was never to control or colonize that country, and it is similar with Iraq. Ukraine and Israel are proving the same point, but in reverse. Ukrainians and Israelis, in contrast to Afghans and Iraqis, are willing to fight for their freedom as long as it takes, and they will have it. The difference between Ukraine, Israel, Afghanistan and Iraq is the difference between Western and Islamic people.

[@TradingSquareXTX]

Bullish 😂😂😂

[@amrmohamed1387]

So if we don't want to fight for your ideals, we are not free!! You are dr​unk on your ignorant arrogance @ghrosenb

[@marcialabrahantes3369]

Great chat

[@lesleepetersen87]

Thank you for this interview Prof G! Excellent!!! Really appreciate it.

[@peppy_pepper_player823]

Two Great Minds...Love it

[@NerdalertNRG]

Hey look guys… nuance still exists! But it requires discussion and agreeing to have difference in opinion and respect!

[@zigrid40]

Enjoyed your appearance on TED -prediction 2024. for the two state

[@kellytetley-jones2510]

Very interesting but my suggestion is stop the wars and let the presidents and Prime ministers of all the western countries duke it out in the ring would not be surprised if the last man standing was Putin small man or not

[@sointu123]

No. It is not the duty of western allies to interfere in the election. It is the election of the United States and only its citizens get to decide who they choose as their president. Of course Europeans are worried and also talk about this and the outcome will obviously have consequences for other countries. BUT: We can't have a double standard where we complain about Russian election interference and at the same time ask for other countries/cooperations etc. to do just that.

[@GetJesse]

Exactly!

[@BartSantello]

One of the best discussions I've heard in along time.

[@Santor6]

He is voice of USA Corporations. Nothing more. Go and find who paying him.

[@Leila-sd1sl]

Hard to find a non-corporation voice nowadays on both side, both for and owned by the corporations. .

[@goodstuff7]

Shallow conversation

[@kristinwinter5006]

Bremmer's assumption that Russia will hang on to chunks of Ukraine assumes that Putin hangs on to power, which in turn assumes that the internal economics and infrastructures does not degrade sufficient to cause significant civil unrest. I would like to hear him explain why Ukraine can't wait out Russia until Putin loses power or at least has to pull back in order to address the internal issues.

[@Aman-oi3re]

Because Ukraine isn’t self sufficient and Russia is fine with draining the west of 100s of billion dollars indefinitely

[@akeleven]

Do you see any leader coming into power just to say " sorry, nevermind". Don't think so. Too many will say we fought for this.

[@peredavi]

Putin could live and be in power for another 10 years. Then another dictator takes over via corrupt elections. Who is going to just “wait it out?”

[@-K-K-1]

Putin's Russia is a bastion of stability compared to what US is about to become in 2024. In fact, many sane people might move there for that very same reason...but we shall see.

[@markpukey8]

Bremmer notes that the latest Ukrainian draft is bringing in 45 year olds. That's a really bad sign for long term success. Russia DESERVES to lose here, but they have more people to feed into the meat grinder. I think Ian believes Ukraine will run out of bodies before Russia does. It's not a lack of will, it's a lack of men to pull triggers. I understand the arguments, but I wish we had established a no fly zone over Ukraine 22 months ago. Or given them modern fighter jets and started training their pilots back then. It would make a huge difference today if we had.

[@LinedanceChristchurch]

Excellent podcast.

[@BrentRichards-vp1cg]

❤I have not ever been treated poorly by Jewish people ❤ as a military man I went to Israel and they treated me like an honored guest. I don't even know anybody who was treated bad by a Jewish person ever.

[@jkatlantic1]

i stand with israel. from the river to the sea for the jews

[@Santor6]

Maybe you were lucky. On domestic level Jews are kind people, but... If you ever talk with them about Palestinian or Arabs they go insane. Machinist are mild compared to israeli.

[@user-qx9zn2cj4e]

the kids that epstein enslaved in his island feel the same way. never treated badly by a jewish person.

[@-K-K-1]

The jews are definitely setting themselves up for a bad time... once again, unfortunately

[@markrussell4682]

I suspect you're mistaken about having been in Israel. When I ws in the US Navy, I made two port calls to Haifa, and I was treated wonderfully - by the Arab population. The Jewish population regularly cursed us, yelled Yankee, go home at us, spat at us, we were regularly harassed by the police.

[@clairejeannette8454]

And now I add you, Mr/Prof Galloway, to my list of thinkers. Dr B has been in it for awhile.

[@cesarhumbertoacunaespinoza]

It is really symptomatic that, while Ian talks about the algorithm and institutions crisis, he didn't mentioned schools and education system but addresses church

[@Throginit]

That is because the cancer has its origin in the universities and school system.

[@singingway]

Nor ecological overshoot and climate change

[@Hexanitrobenzene]

@@singingway "Nor ecological overshoot and climate change" - These are of course important, but they happen on a much longer timescale. They were specifically talking about a year ahead.

[@Hexanitrobenzene]

I agree with Ian. Tristan Harris and the Center for Humane Technology have highlighted the risk posed by the social media attention maximising business model in their film "The Social Dilemma".

[@thehouseofcm]

Interesting interview, Bremmer a regular on Charlie Rose, so haven't seen much of him. My question, why do people like interviewer say "I didn't go to Temple, I am not religious Jew" but they become triggered when Israel is criticized?

[@clenzen9930]

When will you talk to Peter Zeihan?

[@paulheydarian1281]

Peter Z. Knows very little. He should stick to hiking in Colorado and making his sub-standard TikTok style videos.😮

[@Hesham_MK]

"Problems cannot be solved with the same mind set that created them" - Albert Einstein... It's been 75 years, what part of that quote don't these people understand and I'm referring here to both parties to this conflict.

[@rda0013]

I am please you mentioned mandatory national service. I have thought about this for a while as a way to unite. Maybe two years and a free college education during those two years. Anyway, it can take many forms.

[@denillefleming2942]

Cllinto tried to do this with the AmeriCorp program. Bush defunded it and it was never funded fully again. The program still exists limitly and is now mostly serving in disaster mitigation and service.

[@iancormie9916]

The US Draft was very unpopular with much of the US public and abused by too many of America's elite who found numerous ways around being sent to Vietnam. GW by most, if not all, accounts did not fulfill his National Guard Service and President Bone Spirs did not serve in any way, shape, or form.

[@kyleinpa5285]

Forced service and forcing tax payers to pay for their college? Other countries can do that if they want. Not here

[@MPostma72]

@@kyleinpa5285 If it's forced service, they should be compensated, otherwise it's just slavery with extra steps. I wouldn't make it mandatory, but service in exchange for 'free' education could be considered.

[@sircharlesnot]

29:15 "Israel is going to level Gaza" add that to the list of things that is going to happen

[@aboumawiyah]

It is not complicated

[@dadigan5117]

Excellent ... thank you both.

[@second2none914]

How tall is Netanyahu?

[@JerrySeriatos]

6 "0; How tall is Ian

[@second2none914]

@@JerrySeriatos I guess a tall person can lead a pariah state then.

[@JerrySeriatos]

@@second2none914 ask Ian

[@jasminealixandranorth]

"The Wisdom of Insecurity" by Alan Watts. Fabulous book!

[@davidseek]

Why you guys always say it’s about supporting Hamas? It’s about supporting the Palestinians, not Hamas.

[@gmw3083]

Because zion owns them like it owns DC...

[@paulheydarian1281]

David, come and seek me-!!! 😅

[@Sammi84]

Pretty hard to say you're supporting only Palestinians and not Hamas when 72% of asked Palestinians say they support Hamas 🤷

[@gmw3083]

@Sammi84 It's like this. Not all jews support Israel. Many are openly opposed to zionism. Yet zionist Israel claims to be the homeland of all jews when really it only creates more problems for the Jewish diaspora. Hypocrisy and double standards are everywhere. Israel is a nursery and homeland for both. And both spread like weeds. Certainly to Palestine. How would they not? Palestine is Isreal....

[@ChuckAmadi]

Palestinian Gazans allegedly give Hamas total support in their struggles. Personally until West Bank/Hebron Settlers issue isnt addressed i.e remove the illegal settlements and stop building more settlements, this will be continue. The Israel Governments has mandate of their voters to create more illegal settlements so this is going nowhere until USA stops funding if the current Israeli Government don't listen.

[@dex216sims]

14:40 I don't know why you'd "leave aside the treatment of the Natives." The US can't criticize Israel (or any other country, for that matter) for allegedly ethnic cleansing the Palestinians when we actually DID ethnically cleanse the continent of Native peoples

[@adrianfoca865]

Its all about income inequality-all my friends are broke and work 2-3 jobs …how can they be happy?

[@timparker4627]

Two anti-Trump zealots tell us we have to break our democracy in order to save "democracy".

[@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842]

It doesn’t make you zealot to oppose someone who doesn’t cares more about himself than the constitution

[@bestlittlebird]

Nurture = care giving = village = family Finance the family and you reinvigorate your nurture

[@sr.1972]

what alternate reality do these people live in? Bremmer and Galloway are beyond confused.

[@bigpurplepops]

They just aren’t in the same echo-chamber chat rooms you frequent.

[@SuanLuang]

They are members of the American cult of exceptionalism.

[@JoeBillScott]

They’re just braggadocios afraid of Trump’s mission to throw the crooks out. Why because they’re all friends with the crooks.

[@BrianMcInnis87]

10:37 Mandatory service is by definition not voluntarism.

[@-Gramps]

Hey Ian! I’m 5’7” (at least I was before old age desiccated all of my vertebral discs), & I want you to know that I’m a lazy slug & have absolutely *zero* ambition for power! 😇. Seriously, my thanks to both of you for your insights!

[@JerrySeriatos]

Ian has the tendency to be very scientific at times... I am the same as you; not interested in power either

[@paulheydarian1281]

I'm even shorter and I aspire to being a sexy😉 beekeeper. I like honey, but I ain't no Queen Bee. 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🍯

[@JerrySeriatos]

@@paulheydarian1281 unbelievable, you must have the short men's syndrome..

[@ai._m]

Scott is very much against shorter men. He has voiced his disdain many times.

[@ai._m]

There is a reason he made this quote the first thing we hear.

[@jrpm1964]

Ian, a smart guy....

[@victorhankinson1530]

Ukraine funding will go through. There are plenty of republicans that support it. Ukraine will get an Air Force in 2024. 🇺🇦

[@jim2376]

I hope you are right. Mike Johnson is the Victor Orban of America, that is, one of Putin's useful idiots. (Don't know if this will go through. I think "idiot" is on the naughty list for KZbin's censors.)

[@MaxPaint-c8m]

Keep dreaming, no chance

[@jim2376]

@@MaxPaint-c8m Thanks for your take, Nostradamus.😆😆😆

[@MaxPaint-c8m]

@@jim2376 judging by the past 2 years. Mark my word

[@jim2376]

@@MaxPaint-c8m Sure thing, Nostradamus. 😆

[@waseemparkar128]

Thank you!

[@thomasredman1268]

Ok, everybody can now ignore these guys. This is basically just MSM with a few minor twists. " Relpacing nurture with algorithm is the fundamental problem in the United States". That is absurd: It's the answer of someone who doesn't want to discuss the fundamental problem. Hence the falsity of their show. The fundamental problem is the economic system. And the fact that there's no real democracy. These 2 issues of course are closely related.

[@singingway]

Plus the fact that the economic system operates with complete disregard for the geophysical health of our planet, considering climate change an "externality" not to be factored into the bottom line as either responsibility or expense.

[@c_rock3512]

Galloway touched on it when he mentioned income/wealth inequality. The failure to address income/wealth inequality by our government is by FAR the largest driver of division and polarization in our country.

[@MadhavRSub]

Galloway lost all credibility in my mind when he carelessly conflated anti Israel sentiment and antisemitism.

[@tobeexcite]

Ian Bremmer is always insightful and not afraid to speak his belief, and this interview is no different. On the Middle Eastern conflict though, I'd quibble with him on a few points: 1. He said there hasn't been a chance for the Palestinians to rule themselves while there is Israel. Actually there has been one since 2005: Gaza. Too bad Hamas focused on destroying Israel rather than demostrating the superiority of a Palestinian state; 2. Regarding the media coverage on the Irainian terrorist bombing, Ian refered to "Islamophobia" as part of the reason the media lost interest once it became clear Israel wasn't involved. He seemed to be Euro centric in this thinking: the real reason was that Muslims themselves have accepted that muslims killing each other is just fine. Sad but true; 3. On the high Palestinians civilian casulties in Israel Gaza operation, I'd be very interested to hear how Ian proposes to fight this war when his enemies intentionally hide amongst the civilians and use the resulting casualties as propoganda tool. I supposed he would shrug and says that Israel should be held to higher standards than common terrorists, and Israelis should just accept that they will never be safe, until miracle happens.

[@GetJesse]

Good points.

[@markpukey8]

I mostly agree with you. 1 - Yeah, voluntarily electing Hamas, then watching Hamas call off future elections and go nutty anti-Israel for almost 20 years... not a big win for "the Palestinian Cause". 2- It's still disgusting for 'western' media to just go "whelp, that's all right then". 3 - I think Ian believes the war to be a mistake. I know I do. If Israel CAN NOT separate the sheep from the wolves (and you are right that they cannot), they have no business murdering sheep until they run out of wolves. It is inhumane, it is wrong, it is a violation of the Geneva Convention which Israel signed on to. Or do you think a situation like that means the US should have been allowed to nuke Fallujah in Iraq? Should Russia be allowed to nuke part of Ukraine because the locals won't surrender fast enough? If it's wrong in one place, it's wrong in all of them. And I cannot see any way to excuse Israel's willingness to murder civilians these past few months. This is NOT holding Israel to "higher standards than common terrorists". This is holding Israel to the standards when they signed the Geneva Convention in July of 1951... which their actions this year violate. Israel can't have it both ways.

[@jet4tv]

Love hearing Prof g and Ian... Great Info - Smart commentary! Thanks Scott :)

[@digitview]

How do you bargain with a culture that appreciate death more than life? What shared values and common ground can we identify to facilitate communication and understanding across cultural divides. Who's got this kind of a power?

[@mr.knownothing33]

Social media too. If this was the 1990s or early 2000s so many ppl wouldn’t be anti Israel

[@Rob-vc6xw]

I know these people are both smart, and I like them both, and I know are having a discussion and don't want to correct each other. But SG was talking about Arab states and mentioned Iran first on his list of Arab states, except that Iran is not an Arab state. So I just don't like it when really smart people who know better do stuff like that.

[@martavdz4972]

Bremmer is wrong on Ukraine, too. Russia won´t accept a part of Ukraine, it wants to keep going. Incredibly good points in this conversation, but a mistake here and there.