iMachining Steel

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Tool1717

Tool1717

13 жыл бұрын

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@Tool1717
@Tool1717 13 жыл бұрын
The step over is not constant allowing for morphing spirals were we account for chip thinning throughout the entire tool path. Look for the feed changes.
@darrenwilson8375
@darrenwilson8375 8 жыл бұрын
Nice machining on thin sections, without doubt the best method on getting the most out of your tools.
@morrisdiver52
@morrisdiver52 9 жыл бұрын
To all you doubters, this is steel and it's not a con, I had a live demo of this software, cutting a very similar part to this, no coolant in a standard mould making steel. I was so impressed we now use this solidcam with imaching and 3D imachining exclusively. There is nothing I am aware of quite like it.
@ydna
@ydna 13 жыл бұрын
thanks for the numbers....I don't often get the chance to make deep cuts in steel with tools that small but I'd love to experiment one of these days....
@crashes3221
@crashes3221 11 жыл бұрын
Beautiful.
@nonetaken7873
@nonetaken7873 9 жыл бұрын
At 4:05 you can see some bright orange sparks, you wouldn't get that if the material were aluminum.
@eriff
@eriff 8 жыл бұрын
exactamente
@atowngreen
@atowngreen 10 жыл бұрын
Its called trochoidal milling. Using large or full depth of cut, but with small radial step-over. Pretty much the definition of high speed machining. Can save time and uses your tool a lot more efficiently. Though in this video im not sure if steel is being cut. At these speeds, your chips would at least turn straw-colored, but these chips are staying silver like aluminum would. If im wrong and it is steel, thats pretty damn impressive! Thumbs up to whoever wrote the program. By the way, its usually more ideal to use an air blast as opposed to coolant when cutting steel.. coolant can shock and fracture carbide tools if theres a lot of variance in temperature.
@gowthamanmahalingam7829
@gowthamanmahalingam7829 8 жыл бұрын
how much spindle rpm? feed rate ? what type of cutting tool used ? what grade material in steel ? what software used ?
@ydna
@ydna 13 жыл бұрын
nice cuts, love to see the parameters for it!
@dmtindustrialsac1100
@dmtindustrialsac1100 6 жыл бұрын
Excelente!
@jaydekaytv
@jaydekaytv 8 жыл бұрын
Fast + Smooth.
@TFHxPESTILENCE
@TFHxPESTILENCE 10 жыл бұрын
damn this is beautiful lol, CNC ftw
@JohnAndrewMetza
@JohnAndrewMetza 10 жыл бұрын
Can you give some information? Spindle Speed, how big are the tools we are looking at? What grade of steel? Feed rates? How is the steel fixtured? What other steps are there to finish the part?
@harrelsontrumpets
@harrelsontrumpets 9 жыл бұрын
Lots of interesting comments, but many of you insist this is Aluminum. It is in fact steel being cut at high rpm and feed rate programmed in SolidCAM using their iMachining function.
@enistrgt
@enistrgt 9 жыл бұрын
what makes it possible to cut faster? smart toolpath?
@harrelsontrumpets
@harrelsontrumpets 9 жыл бұрын
This tool path offers consistent engagement and less radial depth allowing it to cut considerably faster. And the tool incorporates the latest in cutting technology.
@arilbks3921
@arilbks3921 6 жыл бұрын
Harrelson Trumpets 0
@Dannnneh
@Dannnneh 9 жыл бұрын
So satisfying.
@tonynguyen2330
@tonynguyen2330 10 жыл бұрын
Nice, I really like the way you go into the cut inside the hole. What type of tool path are you using?
@gloverhc
@gloverhc 12 жыл бұрын
You can get a 30 evaluation version of the software at solidcam.com The Eval version does let you produce G code, and the software comes with post processors for more popular machines.
@zwik94
@zwik94 9 жыл бұрын
What type of machine (brand) did u use for this? Very curious...
@cncmike
@cncmike 9 жыл бұрын
Looks like a medium carbon steel like C45.
@Tool1717
@Tool1717 13 жыл бұрын
@ydna2 Deep cuts with small tools is not easy. Synchronization between all cutting parameters must be maintain throughout the entire cut. You can find other videos of deep depths of cut with 1/2” or 12mm tools but with small tools they are much easier to break, one miscalculation that causes a brief overloading of the tool and they break.
@ralphalfiehughes
@ralphalfiehughes 10 жыл бұрын
If it was ali then one could ramp up feed and spindle...esp if using carbide..nice video
@poopl00p3r
@poopl00p3r 8 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it's not butter!
@loudpipesavelives69
@loudpipesavelives69 10 жыл бұрын
That sure is a beautiful looking CNC machined billet steel something or other.
@luismariagonzalezcuezva1728
@luismariagonzalezcuezva1728 8 жыл бұрын
muy interesantes .seguir asi
@r0my47
@r0my47 6 жыл бұрын
Genial :)
@cncit
@cncit 13 жыл бұрын
Really nice what is the machine being used make model etc?
@colinworobetz6662
@colinworobetz6662 9 жыл бұрын
What kind of stepover/DOC are you using?
@mickhall2894
@mickhall2894 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will d-load a demo.
@Budaboose
@Budaboose 11 жыл бұрын
What type of steel is it, because it really looks and sounds like Aluminum?
@Tool1717
@Tool1717 13 жыл бұрын
@ydna2 I did not cut the part but I got the part file and turns out the part is pretty small. The round stock is 95mm / 3.737" diameter. Here is the data for the 4mm tool 4mm diameter, 9.8mm deep, 16000RPM, 2000-14000mm per minute, .030-1.2mm step over .157” diameter, .386” deep, 16000RPM, 78-551” per minute .0118-.0472” step over
@ausguitarist
@ausguitarist 11 жыл бұрын
what are these drill bits made out of?
@kaihuacao8517
@kaihuacao8517 10 жыл бұрын
哇,太棒了!
@UnbreakableM1nd
@UnbreakableM1nd 11 жыл бұрын
I'm paranoid, I would've made even more drilled holes before milling it.
@Tool1717
@Tool1717 13 жыл бұрын
@Tool1717 Correction on the step over .0018-,0472" step over
@markrobirds7984
@markrobirds7984 7 жыл бұрын
IMachining is SolidCAM's competitive answer to MasterCam's Dynamic High Speed toolpaths. I happen to use MC and buzz through D2 tool steel faster than what's shown here.
@bhartisharma-jb5dk
@bhartisharma-jb5dk 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Robirds
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 5 жыл бұрын
Competitive, sure. But way easier and faster to use and thus more economical from programming perspective as well as tooling life.
@billsalvey
@billsalvey 10 жыл бұрын
how much does this beast cost and if possible what is their website?
@lucerocj
@lucerocj 10 жыл бұрын
How long do these tools last for? 100 parts, 10?
@CouncilofThirteen
@CouncilofThirteen 11 жыл бұрын
Why coolant in the end?
@depenthene
@depenthene 7 жыл бұрын
That was fast.
@doggytourettes7729
@doggytourettes7729 10 жыл бұрын
That's what I love about rigidity... you can't hear it! ;-)
@catalinhapencu3744
@catalinhapencu3744 8 жыл бұрын
What type of cnc are you using?
@logannewman4532
@logannewman4532 9 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Volumill toolpath. Or is it just contouring with extra offsets?
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 8 жыл бұрын
+Logan Newman That's a SolidCAM toolpath. It basically tries to keep the chip load the same, so you don't get any squeaks from the tool and thus your tool life is high.
@douro20
@douro20 9 жыл бұрын
What machine is this?
@MattyConn
@MattyConn 11 жыл бұрын
Cutter nearly broke at 2:08, still extremely impressive for steel!
@turtlemann14
@turtlemann14 11 жыл бұрын
what grade of steel is it?
@P1ksi
@P1ksi 12 жыл бұрын
Nicht schlecht =)
@joanzzer
@joanzzer 8 жыл бұрын
Not sure about that very last toolpath, it left a machining mark.
@TheFarCobra
@TheFarCobra 7 жыл бұрын
gacekky1 it is because the last cut was conventional rather than climb milling. It did it on the first layer as well.
@JamieKugelmann
@JamieKugelmann 11 жыл бұрын
We all know it's not steal. It's STEEL.
@ziax9142
@ziax9142 4 жыл бұрын
عمل رائع
@racebends
@racebends 8 жыл бұрын
The color is the same as the table and people don't think the table is aluminum. This is just great tooling at incredible rpm.
@markrobirds7984
@markrobirds7984 7 жыл бұрын
That's not the mill's table we are seeing. It is a fixture most likely made for this job. I can see it is made from Blanchard ground plate. The mill table would most likely be a scraped surface with t-slots.
@phuturephunk
@phuturephunk 8 жыл бұрын
That piece is worth more than my car, isn't it.
@poopl00p3r
@poopl00p3r 8 жыл бұрын
if I had won a million dollars in the lottery, I'd invest in a CNC machine.
@lunchen1768
@lunchen1768 7 жыл бұрын
好厉害
@94meriks
@94meriks 10 жыл бұрын
That ain't stainless. I don't know what the method is called in English, but the principle is to have a constant pressure on the tool when cutting, and working with low radial engagement. It's faster than traditional milling methods and wear less on the tool due to the soft "break-ins". I can do this every day with my Mori Seki 5-axis and Mastercam cadcam.
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 5 жыл бұрын
Trochoidal milling basically, but you can't do this with MasterCAM, you have to give it inputs yourself, whereas SolidCAM iMachining will just ask what material, what end mill and how aggressive you want to cut and calculates all the speeds & feeds automatically to keep a constant chip load & high speed.
@dejanmavija
@dejanmavija 10 жыл бұрын
this is great milling! what cam do u used?
@benjaminbawkon8040
@benjaminbawkon8040 4 жыл бұрын
iMachining = SolidCAM
@sinderal227
@sinderal227 12 жыл бұрын
You are afraid of Helix entry for the small tool, so you used alsmost 3 times Drill to pre-drill.
@armedziak
@armedziak 6 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for pocket finishing
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 5 жыл бұрын
Money is made or lost in the roughing operation, there is no shortcuts in finishing. iMachining hits to that sweet area of where the money is and that is why their videos are usually only of roughing.
@Darfail
@Darfail 11 жыл бұрын
Where's the coolant oil? I dont see any... Does anyone know?
@mcozpda3392
@mcozpda3392 10 жыл бұрын
Engineering.the most beautifuld thing in the world. ENGINEERING ......... DFMX
@personal3
@personal3 7 жыл бұрын
any one who explain what is benefits of this processing CNC?? i think Die-Casting or pressing processing could be more productive... and cheaper than this
@armedziak
@armedziak 6 жыл бұрын
People saying is aluminum should change their job... Btw. I think its machined on magnetic table
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 5 жыл бұрын
The part is bolted from thhe underside to a block of steel which is bolted to the table (you can see some of the bolts in the background)
@mickhall2894
@mickhall2894 12 жыл бұрын
I am not allowed to process operations at my employer, as this piece is being machined. It is frustrating to machine a piece similar to this one, with Z depth steps, thus wearing the cutter corner extremely fast. "It is rough on the machine!" Give me a break. I`d like to try a demo version of this software.
@PrimeToolbox
@PrimeToolbox 11 жыл бұрын
it this real time speed?
@NIGHTSTALKER0069
@NIGHTSTALKER0069 7 жыл бұрын
for people sayimg ot is aluminum look at the chip color.
@cnccarving
@cnccarving 7 жыл бұрын
yes it is steel something like A50 my concern indeed, when I worked on mill, around early 80's this job could take many many hours the roughing itself :-) and I don't have no idea how many hour fileing.. or making a copper chunk for the sinkedm.. time is just changed so much
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 8 жыл бұрын
no idea what it is ,, but it looks expensive
@mainemikeiii
@mainemikeiii 11 жыл бұрын
I saw some lubricant get squirted in there but that was it unless there was a mister on it tgat I didnt notice...
@CHARLYBROWN565
@CHARLYBROWN565 8 жыл бұрын
Which program did you use to make the g code?
@kuei12
@kuei12 8 жыл бұрын
iMachining
@bhartisharma-jb5dk
@bhartisharma-jb5dk 6 жыл бұрын
JUAN CARLOS MORENO PORRAS
@othmanreparaturen4151
@othmanreparaturen4151 8 жыл бұрын
oh mein gottttt
@aohuynh9461
@aohuynh9461 9 жыл бұрын
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@hoalongdao
@hoalongdao 9 жыл бұрын
Đạo Huỳnh IT IS EVERYWHERE MAN
@hectorcrespo6216
@hectorcrespo6216 8 жыл бұрын
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@mich27g
@mich27g 9 жыл бұрын
part of a wankle rotary engine?
@biggemage1234
@biggemage1234 10 жыл бұрын
have none of you who commented on this video never herd of stainless steel billet
@curtisshelton8680
@curtisshelton8680 9 жыл бұрын
I would like to talk to you off line about possible work... Thanks
@nipponso
@nipponso 11 жыл бұрын
that is not steal: it's silver butter!!!
@jacksonlefteye
@jacksonlefteye 8 жыл бұрын
respect for the work being done here, but why call it "iMachining" it's so obnoxious, sounds like you're marketing it to hipster tools
@Tool1717
@Tool1717 8 жыл бұрын
+jacksonlefteye We understand, 5 years ago we worked on this idea and wanted to be noticed. Actually we needed to be noticed so we could recoup our development costs. As time goes on and the technology speaks for itself the name seems unnecessary but internally we have to remember we were trying to be noticed, also any publicity can be good publicity so 5 years later we still have controversy maybe a good thing :)
@jacksonlefteye
@jacksonlefteye 8 жыл бұрын
Tool1717 makes sense, every machinist i know would roll their eyes at the name though, good luck to you guys, i like seeing the full DOC stuff
@Sketch1994
@Sketch1994 8 жыл бұрын
The part in the preview looked too damn shiny to ignore!
@molinobeer
@molinobeer 11 жыл бұрын
I'm steeling that steal then
@racebends
@racebends 8 жыл бұрын
why are people thinking this is not steel?
@hamsteaks5541
@hamsteaks5541 8 жыл бұрын
+gacekky1 I've never seen brown chips come off aluminum but that's just me.
@hamsteaks5541
@hamsteaks5541 8 жыл бұрын
Certainly does, I'm in the process of high speed milling a trepan in some 4340 on a lathe using dynamic motion or trochoidal machining with a half inch carbide end mill with mastercam, will post a video soon if you're interested.
@hamsteaks5541
@hamsteaks5541 8 жыл бұрын
+gacekky1 Will do.
@armedziak
@armedziak 6 жыл бұрын
Cus they know shit
@Tool1717
@Tool1717 12 жыл бұрын
We just wanted to show we support start holes. volumilluser(dot)com/start-holes
@skyhacker6
@skyhacker6 8 жыл бұрын
Such a waste of material ! Why didn't they cast the part rather than machining it ?!
@joshua43214
@joshua43214 8 жыл бұрын
+skyhacker6 Cast metals have very different properties than rolled or forged metals. Castings tend to be very granular and weaker, but are more ductile. Rolled tend to be less ductile but greater compression strength. Also, casting steel can be tricky. It is actually cheaper, faster, and "greener" to mill away all this material than to try and cast it and mill to final dimension. Keep in mind that the shavings are recycled in all but the smallest shops, and a small shop would not have this machine.
@Cerebralcinema
@Cerebralcinema 8 жыл бұрын
+skyhacker6 Casting is for multiple, standardized parts. How do you know that this isn't custom made?
@toantoanledadv3339
@toantoanledadv3339 10 жыл бұрын
qa h
@IzaiazYT
@IzaiazYT 8 жыл бұрын
This material is not steel and aluminum design the description
@Dziomolek
@Dziomolek 8 жыл бұрын
+Cositas de Izaiaz agree, too fast as for steel
@proskatermx
@proskatermx 8 жыл бұрын
+Dziomolek The chips are blue and bronze therefore its steel.
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 8 жыл бұрын
+Cositas de Izaiaz Aluminum doesn't produce sparks, steel does. This material is steel, 16MnCr5.
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 8 жыл бұрын
+Dziomolek Too fast? That was pretty slowly driven, you could easily be even more aggressive with the chip removal and still keep your tool life high.
@Cerebralcinema
@Cerebralcinema 8 жыл бұрын
+Dziomolek Have you ever heard of high feed milling?
@blueisbetter100
@blueisbetter100 8 жыл бұрын
I`m pretty sure its aluminium...
@Cerebralcinema
@Cerebralcinema 8 жыл бұрын
+Brendan Raymond What makes you think that that's the wrong tool?
@Jimbojenkins
@Jimbojenkins 12 жыл бұрын
doesn't seem like steel, more like aluminum
@randy71166
@randy71166 10 жыл бұрын
Really? All that machining for that? Come on ask any old school machinist and they would have used a 1/2 carb. To ruff out most of that noise , than finished it with the 1/4 finisher! Please !
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 5 жыл бұрын
The old school machinists would also be still machining that part.
@martylorenz4447
@martylorenz4447 9 жыл бұрын
I don't think this is aluminium, I ran a CNC machining aluminium every day for 3 years. I thought it was at first but look at the chips they look different and they are changing colour. Aluminium won't do this. That said its not very hard material...
@zzz13zzz17
@zzz13zzz17 9 жыл бұрын
This is aluminum, not steel.
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 8 жыл бұрын
+z3139720 Learn your materials, that is 16MnCr5 steel.
@BrownSugarSonGaming
@BrownSugarSonGaming 8 жыл бұрын
+Jaakko Fagerlund its steal bro... dont you see the sparks?
@zzz13zzz17
@zzz13zzz17 8 жыл бұрын
+BrownSugarSon Absolutely dont see. White metal, no heating, no sparks, no smoke, no liquid cooling, tool from hss with NiT coating not from tungsten carbide. This tool will burn and broke at this speed on steel. This material is aluminum, or, more possibly, magnesium
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 8 жыл бұрын
+z3139720 That is steel. You can see sparks at 4:05 when te cutter goes through the wall. Tool is a standard coated carbide end mill.
@marram6129
@marram6129 8 жыл бұрын
looks like alum to me with a crappy finish
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 5 жыл бұрын
Aluminum doesn't give colored chips nor does it spark. This is 16MnCr5 steel.
@reatoruv
@reatoruv 8 жыл бұрын
This is aluminum, not steel, and not good regularized.
@MaXxH0
@MaXxH0 8 жыл бұрын
+Gilson Fabio de Castro It's steel because: chips are goin yellow/blue, it makes sparks and it's not an AL endmill (TiN coating and helix angle)
@mcping
@mcping 10 жыл бұрын
It's aluminium... the cutters are HSS TiN coated, no serious CNCer would use that for steel :)
@namdang8777
@namdang8777 9 жыл бұрын
about 4:-05, you can see the red chip, alu can do it ? haha look the chip around like alu ?
@arconhadron
@arconhadron 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Lilienberg I vote for 1018 also. Surface finish on top at beginning is poor. It's held rigidly by bolts, and you can almost feel the force of the cuts even with low tool engagement. Surfcam uses Truemill for an approximate 70 degrees of controlled tool engagement. Nice holders, too.
@chrispile3878
@chrispile3878 7 жыл бұрын
I've been a tool & die maker for 39 years.... NO WAY that's steel. It's aluminum. PERIOD.
@Lemming1970
@Lemming1970 7 жыл бұрын
Oh dear.
@bradcolman7331
@bradcolman7331 6 жыл бұрын
Aluminum doesn't chip brown and blue. This is trochoidal milling. YES we can cut this fast with this technique .
@JaakkoF
@JaakkoF 5 жыл бұрын
@ 4:05 in the video you see sparks. Aluminum doesn't spark. The chips also show discoloration from heat, aain, which aluminum doesn't do. This is 16MnCr5 steel, basic mold stuff.
@nickrobertson9460
@nickrobertson9460 10 жыл бұрын
Randy, your obviously impaired in some way.... the video is not showing the best strategy for the part, but rather the capability of the cutters and software....Please what?
@catalinhapencu3744
@catalinhapencu3744 8 жыл бұрын
What type of cnc are you using?
@bhartisharma-jb5dk
@bhartisharma-jb5dk 6 жыл бұрын
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