Incredibles 2 (and Brad Bird) and Theme

This is so hip and topical, I can't wait for this to go totally viral.
What's YOUR favorite Pixar villain monologue?
Sid's cynical tirade against odd couple comedies - / jennynicholson
Bruce the Shark scolds Marlin for foolishly believing in an unlikely family reunion - / jennyenicholson
Mor'du the talking bear points out the relatively smaller and less grand scale of the first Pixar film to feature a female lead before being punched in the face because it's wrong for bears to eat people - / spider_jewel
I cannot remember the villain character from The Good Dinosaur at all - / spiderjewel
Lightning McQueen turns directly to camera and expresses his disgust for his own fans - / jennynicholsonvids

[@ScottDavid7]

"And then the mom died of sadness. Ladies do that sometimes" I want every filmmaker to run their female characters by Jenny first so she can destroy them verbally if they do a bad job

[@wjzav1971]

"Padme lost her will to live" Even though she has two babies to raise and an Empire to oppose and Padme as shown previously will fight tooth and nail for what she believes in. But nope. Anakin is evil now and she just gives up.

[@13eaewe7m3thso]

@@wjzav1971 this one strikes as especially heinous because like, she was on a volcano planet that probably has a ton of toxic vapors in the atmosphere, and then she got brutally strangled by a man who constantly strangles people to death, and went in to labor right after, it would have been so easy and so much more tragic to just say she died of her injuries

[@muddlewait8844]

What's funny is that Edna is the answer to this problem, and the movie itself doesn't seem to realize it. She doesn't have the body or powers of a hero, but has huge self-esteem, overcomes any challenge that engages her, and is as competent as any character in the whole franchise (while not being perfect). She's what Syndrome and Evelyn *should* have been, but refused to become because they saw such a role as inferior. Edna sees superheroes as people: amazing people (just as she is), but also often idiots who could really use her help.

[@heathercalun4919]

But that would still be insinuating that some people just can't be superheroes! Like I really don't agree with Jenny's interpretation of "Not everyone can be a great chef..."" because the point is this hypothetical where Amille went to culinary school would never happen in a million years, because having passion for a specific vocation, and having talent for it, are often reinforcing cycles. Amille CAN taste the subtleties when Remy points them out to him; he just doesn't care because cooking isn't his thing. Amille isn't inherently inferior to Remy; it's just that he's not predisposed to have the drive to become a great chef, so if he suddenly started acting like he was some great food critic, it would be a blind act of hubris from someone who hadn't put in the required hours to be qualified. Like, this is Paris; we can't just throw ALL GATE-KEEPING out the window. Edna isn't a fashion designer because she wishes she was a superhero and designing their costumes is the best she can hope for because she has no powers. Being a crime fighter and being a fashion designer are just two completely different fields that happen to be interlinked in this world, and Edna loves and is good at costume design. Syndrome isn't the villain because his stated plan of "When everyone's super, no one will be" is immoral. In fact, this is basically what he was trying to do in earnest back when he was IncrediBoy, and the themes of the movie are pretty explicit with the fact that in that scene, Mr. Incredible was the one in the wrong, and accepting Buddy's help would have been a good idea for numerous reasons. Syndrome is the villain because Syndrome's plan is not Syndrome's plan. He's only throwing those words back at Mr. Incredible to taunt him as part of Bob's character arc. But Syndrome is the villain specifically because he still needs to feel above average people. He brings a killer robot into the city, specifically to orchestrate a situation where he can appear to save everyone from the threat he introduced, and then they will grovel and buy his technology, while he presumably still keeps the extra-cool technology for himself. He doesn't actually want to start a revolution which will make everyone equal; he just wants a disruptive technology which will put him in the position Mr. Incredible currently holds, presumably so he can be a dick and kick some new ambitious kid out of his car. The whole movie is about how the Par family's need to feel more special and independently capable than everyone else, is an expression of insecurity, and fostered a cycle of violence and power-grabs which created the villain. TL;DR Go watch the first movie over again; I'm PRETTY SURE the moral was not "Rocket Boots = Bad". If Syndrome was just some chill guy who wanted to sell muggles rocket boots so they wouldn't need superheroes in case they fall off of skyscrapers, I'm pretty sure the movie wouldn't call him a villain. The moral is "Rocket Boots = Neutral or Good. Putting people in mortal peril as part of your guerilla marketing campaign for your Rocket Boot Monopoly borne out of jealous fanboy revenge = Bad" Hell, the only other main scene where the "When everyone's special, that means nobody is" line appears is the conversation with Dash, and the movie ends his story arc rather definitively debunking this fear: Dash comes in second place, and is happy about it anyway, _because coming out on top isn't what matters, and there's room for everyone to participate in something they enjoy_

[@isabellamorris7902]

@@heathercalun4919 I thought the message of the movie was something like this: 1. Not everyone is born with literal superpowers, and that's something we have to live with 2. Superpowers aren't inherently "better" than other talents and drives just because they look cool (that's what Mr Incredible does wrong in the opening of Incredibles 1 - his implicit arrogance makes him not just reject Buddy, but do so in a dismissive way) 3. Also, you can use the strengths that you ARE born with to help people in a meaningful and significant way - as significant as a superhero can. I think it's a message about self-comparison. You're not necessarily gonna be a superstar at whatever it is you do, and we unfortunately live in a world that glorifies the superstars and leaves the "normal people" in the dust. And maybe sometimes people just have zero talent for something, the kind that it's not worth the effort it would take to overcome, and that's fine too. The point is to move on, find confidence and worth within yourself, and discover what it is you're really good at AND love.

[@user-zh4vo1kw1z]

The villains are the contradiction to their own thesis. Buddy made rocketboots as a kid? Not even Tony did that and there are iterations of the character where he is explicitly superhumanly smart and good with tech. Hypnolady wants to destroy superheroes, so she rallies, trains and funds superheroes and creates the necessity and/or demand for them by being a litteral supervillain. I know that Bird is pretty clearly following Rand's objectivism, but perhaps he shouldn't try and make such a good argument against it.

[@owenleal]

​@@heathercalun4919I dont think the movie tries to insinuate that Buddy was in the right. Buddy stalks Bob to every superhero convention, he breaks into his car, he tries to co-opt Mr Incredible's image for himself. Buddy begins the film as an entitled narcissist and when his actions nearly kill a train full of people, he doesnt think "holy shit I took this too far, but maybe I can still help people with my inventions" he thinks "Mr Incredible is a fraud and I must dedicate my life to destroying them" he becomes a private military contractor, funding hundreds of wars just so that he can muster up the capitol to destroy and kill a slew of innocent people.

[@cam4636]

@@owenleal The...the eight year old? The kid with a favorite superhero. Are we talking about the child who followed his favorite public figure in public to effuse praise in the way children do and show off the stuff he made in the way children do

[@battleupsaber462]

TBH every movie would be improved if someone said *"YOU MESS WITH ONE OF US YOU MESS WITH ALL OF US!"*

[@Hounlaiga]

I don't know why, but I read this in Australian accent...

[@maschaorsomething]

And it should always be the exact same crowd in every movie

[@paradoxacres1063]

YES! YES! YES!

[@matman000000]

Imagine that line in Schindler's List. Instant masterpiece.

[@sirtoby4939]

BattleUp Saber BONESAW IS READY!!!

[@SapientPearwood]

"Is there any more direct metaphor for unearned power than a super powered baby?" Wow... this is a really well reasoned and well articulated analysis by a woman wearing an Edna Mode costume with an obnoxiously large porg in the background. Since when was there a good part of the internet, and why was it kept from me until now?

[@greatandmightykevin]

@Boco Corwin what a dark yet somehow accurate metaphor

[@mariamatedei]

the porg isn't obnoxious :c

[@iantophernicus6042]

Wait I just had a thought. It might even be a clever one. Why is it that Voyd didn't make a massive portal to make the ship speed away from the mainland? Did she have the Violet problem, where she couldn't make portals/force fields beyond a certain size?

[@ransakreject5221]

I feel like a baby with super powers would fast turn into a horror movie. Bodies everywhere… cause babies are idiots.

[@competentfake]

Well said! The snark is strong with this one, yet the delivery is always sweet with the irrepressible positivity of the cynical idealist

[@Yesnomu]

When will they find a cure for ladies dying of sadness? How long will this silent killer haunt our movie women??

[@owayasomething9295]

​@@kawaii33366 The amount of sexism in your comment made me cringe. Maybe instead of making your argument about how emotional women are and how they aren't interesting characters, you could make the actual helpful argument that PEOPLE can die of depression regardless of gender. What are you even saying here? That women are more likely to get depression? That is an incredibly harmful and incorrect statement and it has been disproven. Maybe you should read up on that. Which, by the way, maybe try not to steer away a conversation about prevalent anti-feminist tropes in movies by legitimizing it. "That it sometimes happens in rl" is not an excuse for writing these tropes into movies and ignoring historic and social kontekst. If there were a tope of 'men dying of sorrow' as well, then it wouldn't matter. But there isn't, so it does.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

Never

[@aeidla]

quillypen i was gonna like your excellent comment but it has 420 likes and i dont wanna ruin that but good job on the comment

[@TheSongwritingCat]

To be fair, movie people of different genders die of sadness. It's not just women. Everyone's just wasting away like you couldn't possibly live on after your spouse dies. The weird thing in this movie is that it was totally possibly for them to both be killed. That felt like an unnecessary detail.

[@maxhydekyle2425]

@@kawaii33366 Get revenge on what? Cholesterol?

[@theoriginalsache]

Brad Bird has said in an interview somewhere (I wish I could remember where I read it) that he grew up in a very objectivist family. Like, his parents believed in it and especially one of his uncles (huge Ayn Rand fans) and he never really agreed with the premise, so most of his career has been him trying to refute this, but for whatever reason, he hasn't been so great at it. Like, he comes at it from the wrong angle. He's trying to prove that if people are born special, they should use their specialness for the betterment of others rather than selfishly, but by focusing on the "greatness" aspect, he's only focusing on half of what's wrong with the philosophy.

[@AD-cy4vj]

Interesting

[@DevinParker]

It's weird to me that if Brad grew up with Objectivism, when making his superhero movies he would have at least grappled with Steve Ditko, the most (in)famous Objectivist superhero comic creator. He could have put a Question/Mr. A-type character into Incredibles specifically to illustrate how that philosophy was wrong. But I guess that's kind of what Alan Moore did with Rorschach, and everyone just ended up thinking he was really cool instead, so I guess I could see how that could have backfired or felt derivative.

[@dorpth]

I would have guessed the exact opposite, because every part of The Incredibles has been arguing in favor of horrible "normies" dragging down the exceptional, to the degree that I would have believed it if you told me Zack Snyder had written it.

[@AnnDVine]

Yeah, the one thing I think does save Bird's approach is that his "special" characters are primarily selfless. There's a bit of Atlas Shrugged in there, but the idea that heroes are burdened by civilians is typically something his characters need to get over. I think Bird is genuinely compassionate, and while you're right in saying it only solves half the problem, it's a virtue missing from a great many of his contemporaries.

[@AnnDVine]

I think Brad Bird feels humbled by the implied obligation that those "with" power should aid those "without". It just sucks that he still organises the world according to that hierarchy.

[@kerenred]

why do you hate me Brad Bird!?? I liked your RAT MOVIE

[@IKIGAIofficial]

kerenred my mood exactly.

[@o0Spurs0o]

kerenred I don’t know why this made me laugh so hard oml 😂

[@tomboz777]

I liked Ratatoing too.👍

[@ne0njuice782]

triplesix yep..

[@rachelh682]

Rat patootie is quality content

[@dontrestyourhead]

The villain in Incredibles 2 was totally correct about the non supers just being really passive and waiting for the supers to save them. That's what happens in every scene. When the Underminer's machine is on a rampage, loads of people are just standing around idly instead of running away. When the train is runaway, they're all just passively doing nothing instead of trying to go and get to the controls themselves. When the ocean liner is going to crash into the coast, people are just standing there and no-one is making any attempt to evacuate or stop it. She was, in an objective sense, correct.

[@sjhmagic1]

You're right. Why seek help at all? Damn me for being non super. Always going to doctor when I'm sick, or calling the emergency phone line when I need help. Damn! Lazy.

[@ShaunCheah]

Yes but she wanted to kill people and that's wrong.

[@the_exegete]

That's true within the movie, but we know that's not true in real life. There are an infinite number of stories of ordinary people acting to save themselves and others. And yet when Brad Bird writes a story he writes ordinary people as worthless moochers and idiots who need naturally superior people to do everything for them. Bird always denies that he's parroting Ayn Rand's toxic beliefs, but man. It's right there on the screen. Some people are inherently better than the useless masses.

[@DiggityDoglikeDogg]

People in real life go about standing around like dumbasses in dangerous situations without superheroes all the time.

[@the_exegete]

Sure, it happens, but it's really not the norm. It's more common for people to at least run away and not uncommon for people to try to do something. The thing is, Bird (and any storyteller) is choosing what to focus on. When he portrays everyone who isn't inherently superior as a worthless idiot it's not because he randomly chose that focus. He's saying something. And what he always seems to be saying is that the masses are utterly helpless scum who should be glad to kiss the boots of their superiors. Which is also what Rand is saying in all of her stories. I mean that doesn't necessarily make the stories he tells bad, but, y'know. It's kinda creepy. Does he really see himself as some kind of ubermench who is deigning to grace us lowly worthless peons with his works of genius that we really don't deserve? It kinda seems that way.

[@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780]

The main character of this video is so relatable, I too sometimes need water!

[@espurious]

You do? Me too!!! Not all the time of course. I'm not some water whore

[@Danktey]

La Croix while not soda, is also not water?

[@ericd1269]

I connect with you through sharing and understanding the concept of dry mouthedness.

[@littlefieryone2825]

"I know, I know... _freeze_ "

[@Onychoprion27]

The Iron Giant: "You are who you chose to be" Ratatouille: "If you have the special gene, at least." Incredibles: "Like, seriously, you've gotta be born special to do cool things" Incredibles 2: "If you try to do special things as a not-born-special person you are actually evil hey guys check out this book I just found about Atlas and what would happen if he shrugged"

[@willow5945]

Tomorrowland: "Also, those special people I was talking about don't actually exist. Humanity is a race of bottom-feeding scum, and the entire world is headed for the toilet whether we like it or not."

[@KinataKnight]

The weirdest part of the dialogue was Evelyn saying Elastigirl's core principles prevented them from being friends, and Elasigirl is all "AT LEAST I HAVE CORE PRINCIPLES" even though Evelyn's the only character who showed any ideology beyond "killing is bad." It definitely made me question whose side the writers were on.

[@KinataKnight]

That part's fine. My criticism is that the heroes don't make any case for _their_ philosophy (or really have one) and instead win the moral battle on a technicality (Evelyn tries to kill people, so she's wrong by default).

[@coreym162]

Ummm... Maybe there are no sides in a Brad Bird Film because, Humans fail regardless of ideology. None of it is perfect and evil plagues them all and the followers aren't always a result nor absolutely even follow their own ideology to begin with. Sides are the problem.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

I think the issue with Syndrome's "everyone can be Super" is he wasn't gonna hand out his gadgets right away, he systematically killed off all the Supers he could find so HE could be the only "Super" and ONLY once he was old and has his fun (after likely decades of uncontested, indulgent Super-ing)..THEN he would bring everyone up to his level. Even criminals who would use them for selfish reasons. That last part of "Everyone can be Super!" wasn't out of a sense of altruism, but spite.

[@heyyou.4939]

''if everyone can be special, then no one will be'' has a revenge he wants to get rid of the concept of super itself (sorry you probably forgot about posting this comment)

[@TheShadowcreator]

Also, his idea of a utopia seemed to be one where he was the most super. (He talks about keeping the best gadgets for himself)

[@sable-king2066]

Yeah, she really kinda glossed over Syndrome’s whole plan as if he was trying to better humanity for selfless reasons. Like no, he’s doing it because he’s a psychopath who never got over Mr. Incredible rejecting him, which was to keep Buddy, a literal child, safe.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@sable-king2066 Plus with technology of level the reality would be that only the rich could be super.

[@sable-king2066]

@@PlanetZoidstar Exactly. I feel like Jenny and a lot of people in these comments are overlooking the fact that villains are, well, villains. Even if what they’re doing seems good on paper, you have to take into account their reasons for doing so.

[@KristinaPup]

is the porg getting bigger? i think the porg is getting bigger.

[@digitaljanus]

I think she's been feeding it wookies.

[@Chipiliro613]

Or Jenny is getting smaller. Soon...soon the porgs will be hunting her.

[@brendancarlton7326]

I like this.

[@LnPPersonified]

It's been eating the other porgs.

[@JennyNicholson]

It's getting closer

[@StarlightPrism]

Something else that adds to the "born for greatness" theme of the movies is that we never see any supervillains. Like, someone with superpowers has more capacity for greatness than a person without superpowers, but that doesn't mean that they'd actually utilize it for good. But that always seems to be the case in Incredibles world. With Ratatouille, I get the message that they were going for. Not everyone has what it takes to be great at a certain thing. I'd never be able to make it as a pro basketball player, I lack the height. I could never be an astronaut, I have certain health issues. That said... I think Monsters University does a better job of dealing with these themes. We see Sully, a monster who has a lot of potential for being a great scarer but doesn't have the drive. For a little while he's able to get by on natural talent, but he soon hits a point where he has to work hard to progress. Mike lacks natural ability, but he knows all of the technical stuff and is able to make good grades. He's not able to become a scarer, but he does become a great scare coach. I really like that take on the subject. Even if you can't make the goal you're aiming for, the skills you pick up while trying can still benefit you in other ways, and you can still get something related to what you want.

[@quintonashley5745]

agreed!

[@sogmaft1922]

god monsters inc is such a wonderful movie

[@AsronomyMoe]

And if you factor in the ending of the first movie. He does get to do something equivalent to being a scarer: being a comedian. Once monster society is improved by the structural changes that prevent the exploitation of children via scaring, Mike is able to take on a profession that he is both good at and no longer hurts the children they draw power from.

[@roseclouds5838]

Ratatouille sequel where Remy has inspired many rats to cook and we learn that all rats are capable of being a chef. Remy has to learn keep his pride while several other young rats overtake his skills. Even when he isnt known as the top chef anymore he has to see that he has helped many rats coming from sad backgrounds find hope. The new superior rat can be from like New York and be called Fat Vinny, he can be seen as a villain half way through the movie until you have this flashback sequence where young Vincent is struggling for food around with his brothers on the streets. Remy and Fat Vinny can have a little heart to heart scene then where they talk about their past. Remy comes to the conclusion that the new rats aren’t competition but children of his and plans to open up a culinary school for rats from all backgrounds. The main villain has this thing going on the entire movie where he is some kind of health inspector who hates rats and wants to make rats cooking illegal. All the rats come together to fight off health inspector dude because Remy has done so much for them and given them hope. End scene is a classic depressing Disney death of Remy as he lays in Alfredo Linguini’s palm, a single ratty tear rolling down his cheek as he feels satisfied with his life

[@atlasmonkeyleon]

This comment is way better than it has any right to be.

[@SkyGodKazuha]

Rose Clouds Thats one way for Brad Bird to redeem himself

[@roseclouds5838]

Merlani Art it’s okay ratatouille is superior

[@KrazyKelor]

Rata2ille

[@zacharywood9416]

Rose Clouds “a single ratty tear” 😂

[@deffdefying4803]

"Yeah Screenslaver, I guess the whole reason I like Incredibles 2 is I'm too lazy to get off the couch and stop a speeding oceanliner with ice I shoot from my hands!" My God that was LETHAL

[@samhoffacker1614]

“Since its a kids’ movie you say your thesis out loud” Holy shit this is good

[@Avocado11]

8:10 Brad Bird's Iron Giant: You don't have to be a gun. You are what you choose to be. Brad Bird's Incredibles 2: Jack Jack, you are a gun. Because that's how we choose to use you. *pew pew*

[@alfieinnes284]

the dying lightning mcqueen plush behind you is 100% a mood

[@antoniodiavolo]

Mr Stereotype “kerchoo”

[@IKIGAIofficial]

Thats the crashed mcqueen plushie.

[@alfieinnes284]

triplesix oof

[@alexarias5717]

cursed image

[@oof-rr5nf]

biggest of all moods

[@lucaspsm125]

"the idea of being born special" gave me Rise of Skywalker war flashbacks

[@theflickchick9850]

To be fair, that’s in the prequels too.

[@BigDaddyWes]

A huge portion of Star Wars stories, from the mainline films to all the spin offs revolve around some "special." Individual. There's nothing wrong with that.

[@siimkivisild2251]

Idk Rey was "born speciak" but it's still shown in the sequels that anyone can become a hero, like for example Finn. While the prequels are conpletely centralised around being "THE CHOSEN ONE". I still like both the sequels and prequels though

[@jellyhair8026]

... Yeah. Really inspiring, isnt it? Makes me want to run home and do something special with my life. Oh, wait. Nevermind.

[@lcav5622]

@@siimkivisild2251 they should’ve made Finn a Jedi as powerful as Rey, with the message that anyone can be the chosen one or something

[@alicelidell1370]

I love how much you love Toby Maguire's Spiderman

[@tiacat11]

She should make a numbered list about why she loves it.

[@KS-xk2so]

@@tiacat11 and every entry on the list is just a different set up for her to play the "Ya mess with one of us, ya mess with all of us!" clip, hahaha

[@adeer87]

Honestly everyone should feel the same way.

[@John73John]

"First of all, SPOILERS... my finger hurts." That was a HUGE spoiler, thanks for warning me.

[@vivanesca]

that bit from Ratatouille made me so bitter about everything. for real I was like "huh... I guess I just can't be an artist after all, it isn't MEANT TO BE" and it took me years to think about that sentence critically and be like "wait... someone wrote this. it was just a movie about a rat. who becomes a chef. some guy wrote this. it isn't a universal truth" and I can be really dumb sometimes. Ratatouille was rad tho

[@blake_ridarion]

That scene made me so angry, because I knew it would have this horrible effect on people. I'm glad you were able to see through it, eventually.

[@paradoxacres1063]

Now I feel really, _really_ bad for people who were affected by that scene =( (Thankful it flew over my dumb head, though)

[@flatfacedcat]

I was similarly affected. I have a hard time shaking it off still, while pursuing an animation career and seeing that mindset as the norm in the field.

[@ThreadBomb]

But some people have more talent than others, and trying hard doesn't always fix that. Many classical music composers have tried very hard, and often lived much longer than Mozart (who died at 35), but despite all that they were mediocre compared to Mozart, and have been forgotten.

[@flatfacedcat]

I know. I'll stay in retail and let my BFA rot I guess.

[@jepifany635]

Ngl I find it comforting that “not everyone can be a great cook but a great cook can come from anywhere” because sometimes I don’t want to be special. I don’t want to strive and rise above the crowd (which every movie tells us to), I just want to nap.

[@bakaboo1212]

same.

[@erraticonteuse]

Don't chase your dreams. Humans are persistence hunters. Just briskly follow after your dreams at a steady pace, and eventually your dreams will lie down exhausted. THAT'S when you strike.

[@h.c.49]

​@@erraticonteuseDreams giving in, exhausted, is such strange and wonderful concept.

[@charlesthe9aul]

Not everyone can be a great cook. Just like not everyone can be a great artist, musician, or athlete. There is born talent. But that should never prevent anyone from doing their best.

[@MusicTvMoviesBooks]

Do I start with the outfit, the abundance of cars things or the la croix?

[@SuperMovieLvr933]

La Croix is so good though.

[@clark5926]

You start with all of them

[@ren1245]

Yishai Thau no it’s not face the FACTS

[@robschulz]

Why am I seeing all kinds of stuff about La Croix lately? I don't get it, at all.

[@alephbunchofnumbers]

Rob Schulz must be some kind of aggresive guerilla advertising strategy. Either that or the baader-meinhoff effect

[@drakehickox6578]

I love watching Jenny slowly unravel as she realizes that movie producers everywhere have a personal vendetta against her

[@TheNumnutRandomness]

I liked Incredibles 2 a lot, but by GOD was it thematically messy. They bring up all these interesting points, but they just kinda drop them in the 3rd act. Non-supers are such nonentities in this film. Like, did Mr. Deavor think that people staying safe while bad guys were robbing the place was a moot point? Or that installing backup phone _inside_ the safe room was a bad idea? And dying of sadness are you _kidding_ me?

[@lonliestfudanshi3170]

TheNumnutRandomness Carrie Fisher's mom died of sadness shortly after Carrie died. It's a real thing.

[@Whatlander]

The added layer of Winston being a billionaire who inherited half his dad's company (but gets all the credit for its success) is troubling as well. I think there's even a scene where the superheroes express discomfort around his enthusiasm. The fact that, out of the two non-supers who do rise to "power," the rich white CEO guy who never has to learn anything or better himself in any way is the "good one" just felt jarring. I assume he was set up to be a red herring, but like, it's still hard to reconcile the grandstanding wealth-hoarder with moral purity. I think Brad likes to set up relationships & scenarios and explore them in fun ways, but it's more like playing in a sandbox, and the larger implications fall by the wayside. "Mr Incredible struggles with failure when taken out of his element & Mr Incredible learns to ask for help, allow himself emotional vulnerability, and adapt" rang out loud and clear. "Violet suffers a negative consequence of superhero life and questions what she wants" kind of works maybe. "Elastigirl realizes that she deserves more credit than she's been given, and finds new purpose as a role model, but still puts her family first? I guess?" "Dash straight up steals a car." Just like you said, there are so many strong elements that sing on their own, but they don't exactly fit together as anything beyond a character-driven story.

[@rosamy2017]

The split second when the rat is spinning through the air as Jenny hurls him over her shoulder has me in tears

[@rosennacht7624]

10:40 I know this comment is 3 years old, but it made me rewind the video to find the flying Remy and I’m glad I did lmao 😂😂

[@GoldenPantaloons]

​@@rosennacht7624 You're a hero for that timestamp... I wasn't going to look for it but now I've replayed it 10x. Why is it so funny? I'm actually crying laughing and I don't know why

[@PogieJoe]

I almost feel like Brad must be fighting the objectivism within himself. haha On the one hand, you mentioned some clear examples where he seems to think that way. On the other hand, Helen always talks about how everyone is special in the first movie...and she's the heart of the family! On Twitter one time Bird says "I've always thought the Ayn Rand comparison lazy & inaccurate at best. But some get what I'm going for." Fellow Pixar movie Monsters University explored the idea that Mike would never be a great scarer no matter what, but that there were things he would excel at even better. So, similarly, with Brad's movies I see them as less focused on "only certain people are special" and more "how can people in power make society better for everyone?" Which is totally not very objectivist at all. Or he might just have a bit of a god complex. Lol

[@JennyNicholson]

I'd argue that Monsters University was less "give up on your unrealistic career goals" and more "don't give up; there are unconventional routes to success." Especially in the pre-credits montage of he and Sulley as college dropouts, scraping their way up from working in the mail room. Since the laugh floor is an evolution of the scare floor, Mike did eventually get his dream job. He worked hard, was patient, and the field evolved so that his talents were appreciated. Mike is a self-made monster, born at a disadvantage, in kind of an inverse of Incredibles 2.

[@PogieJoe]

Jenny Nicholson That's a great point. I guess a more Birdian storyline would be Sully's in MU wherein he was born to greatness through his family, has to learn how to use it without ego, and then indeed becomes great. Haha

[@paradoxacres1063]

Figures that Bird would be too cowardly to own up to the Randian streak in his recent films...

[@tomboz777]

Ratatouille is far more palatable regarding the whole "special people" thing. That's why I prefer it to Incredibles.

[@t.c.bramblett617]

To be honest, in an actual world with superheroes, some of us WOULD be better than others... or at least much more powerful, meaning their moral choice whether to be good or bad would be a lot more important to the rest of us. It's not a great metaphor for actual reality however.

[@Rebecca-dz2nv]

genuinely have learnt more about theme and consistency in cinema from you than my entire film degree

[@DeadwingDork]

I like how Spider-Man 2 pretty much has the same YOU MESS WITH ONE OF US YOU MESS WITH ALL OF US scene on the subway, but then Doc Cock just smiles and shoves them all aside with his tentacles.

[@charleynewman5057]

best movie ever freakin' made.

[@deffdefying4803]

_Doc Cock_

[@games_on_phone89]

and they were gonna put that in the first one as well

[@games_on_phone89]

@@deffdefying4803 greatest name of all time

[@EnnuiOwO]

Oh hey, its you

[@Doodlebob108]

there's a really weird obsession in media with people being "the chosen one" or the one who was "born special" and it's honestly kinda creepy

The Chosen One trope goes all the way back to old chivalry stories and folk tales. It was meant to give their protagonist a moral justification without questioning the implications of their actions. See, king Arthur can't be a warlord who conquest Britain, he's actually the chosen one meant to be the one true king so it's fine!

[@dorpth]

@ Chivalry times? Hell, that goes all the way back to AT LEAST the Bhagavad Gita in 200 BC.

[@crackedemerald4930]

@ I'd argue the chosen one trope is way older than that still, Jesus Christ himself was one of those.

[@areallycoolhat5427]

Its weird how so many stories have it to some degree. Even Earthbound, a sci-fi story (which only has weird, reality bending stuff happen as a result of Giygas' shenanigans) puts in a 'you guys were actually destined to fight the villain the whole time' twist

[@Panurus_biarmicus]

Doodlebob108 you were ment to write this comment, it was your destiny!

[@samshep6865]

"Yes screenslaver, I guess the whole reason I like Incredibles 2 is because I'm too lazy to get off the couch and stop a speeding ocean liner with ice I shoot from my bare hands"

[@jakubmike5657]

Just because you do not have superpowers is not a proper excuse. I once read a comic about superman where countries reduced their budgets for fire fighters because Superman will take care of it. This is the gist of it. Superheroes should inspire us for greatness and not be cruches for our ills. Just because there is a guy who can catch a plane does not mean you should cut cost on safet procedures.

[@ToruKun1]

Jakub Mike That would be a good argument were it not for the fact *SUPERHEROES DON'T ACTUALLY FUCKING EXIST*

[@jakubmike5657]

@@ToruKun1 within universe of the movie they do exist. We are talking about a movie...

[@WarKeineAbsicht]

Jakub Mike it’s so terrible when people frame crutches to be a bad thing! They’re an assistive device!

[@d3nza482]

@@jakubmike5657 Except the existence of Superman would literally reduce the chance of catastrophic fires. Might as well stop spending money on aerial firefighting and risking lives of all those firefighters. Sorta like if prayer actually worked. Just empty out all the hospitals ("You're cancer free! Go home and pray!") and turn them into prayer centers. Same goes with banks. Or factories. Restaurants... Hell... everything actually. Screw economy! Or biology! Thoughts and prayers for EVERYONE!!! Manna from heaven bitches!!!

[@mathsalot8099]

And after Rey is revealed to be a Palpatine, I think this is more a Disney problem than a Brad Bird problem.

[@slithra227]

Yeah. Iron Giant was a Warner Bros film, tomorrowland and everything else is disney.

[@Panurus_biarmicus]

Mickey=Jezus=Neo

[@BigJoel]

Jack Jack earned every shot he ever got

[@krishnastarz]

Did not expect you here!

[@collapsingnewpunkie]

A fav in a fav's comment section.... awesome!!

[@oof-rr5nf]

@@collapsingnewpunkie ikr life is good

[@atrapdr6251]

Hi Joel, love your work. :)

[@diegosanchez894]

You both have the same speaking patterns.

[@edmundjc]

"Draw me like one of your French girls." - Porg

[@cosmosblue772]

If you research Bird's background alot of his ideas and musing in some of his movies, The Incredibles most especially, start to make sense. I mean the guy showed talent as early as 12 I believe and got mentored by some of the most esteemed animators at Disney after impressing one of the original animators so much. But all the same had a super hard time establishing himself (he is deemed a bit difficult because of perfectionism) in fact The Iron Giant was his very first film, before he just wrote and worked in tv. So I feel like he feels he was special, because he showed exceptinalism at such a young age, but saw that wasnt enough or that people tried to hold him back, because he had a tough time getting work. I dont think he's a bad guy, he certainly understands that making a hero self absorbed and relying on killing is awful but has a chip on his shoulder of people holding other people, who show a lot promise, back. I think its him fighting his own bitterness, because he loves the idea of superheroes and helping others, but seems to hate the idea of mediocre and complacent people succeeding. Very much seems like he hasnt gotten over this, even though he has a fucking Oscar now and all the esteem and respect in the world =[

[@wyrdautumn]

Yeah, a lot of Brad Bird's work is, at the very least, easy to interpret as being about the chips on his shoulder. Almost all of his movies are based on an idea of exceptionalism, they're about exceptional people with talents normal people don't have who are misunderstood or rejected by society for their talents, because Brad Bird sees himself as, arguably is, this prodigy who was better and cared more about his work than everyone else but they turned him away because they couldn't get on his level. To his credit, a lot of his movies are also preoccupied with rejecting the sort of Randian and racial hierarchy themes that could very easily be attached to that idea. The point of "anyone can cook" is that, in Brad Bird's worldview, yes some people are born great, but great people can come from any background, and it's just as terrible to deny someone's greatness because of their race or origin as it would be for any other reason. Tomorrowland and Incredibles 2 are both about how yes some people are born with greatness, but great people have a responsibility to use their greatness to the benefit of other people, you can't Galt's Gulch it up and hide away your genius because it's your duty to go out there and make the world a better place. There are *problems* with both of these ideas, because everything always comes back to this fundamental "great man" philosophy he has that is and always will be bullshit, but at least he's trying to grapple with it. The Iron Giant is probably the biggest exception to all of this in his work, because it wasn't inspired by the same trauma. While the Iron Giant was still in early production, Brad Bird's sister was murdered by her husband. He shot her to death with a gun. It's a sad story. But that's why Brad Bird made a movie about gun violence, and gun control, and a gun choosing not to be a gun. It's not about the old chip on his shoulder from being kicked out of Disney, and that's why it's so different.

[@cosmosblue772]

Weird Autumn Yeah I heard about that and thr themes of Iron Giant make so much sense and makes it even more poignant...

[@ThreadBomb]

He's just angry because Tomorrowland flopped.

[@DFWNites]

What's wrong about somebody stepping up to the plate in time of crisis and turning out to be exactly the person needed? What's bullshit about that being a possibility?

[@NitroNEXT]

Talented people do and have been held back in real life. Why is that a bad message?

[@Unguided]

I really like your Daria costume.

[@taylife3145]

The porg with the shirt and the hat...he is beautiful.

[@boredpanda7792]

He has more fashion sense than I do.

[@leahl5007]

Please Jenny include the phrase “You mess with one of us, you mess wit all of us!” In every video you make plz thank you ppreciate cha 💜

[@aconcept1579]

That lighting McQueen pillow thing really unnerves me

[@antoniodiavolo]

derp derp “kerchoo”

[@HolandaChiquita]

I always felt like they actually showed that Emile also was able to taste the different flavours etc. except, he didn't care. To him, food was just food...

[@jordcadwell]

And the mom died of sadness. Ladies do that sometimes. 😂

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Jordan Cadwell Because apparently Incredibles takes place in the Star Wars universe. Makes a lot of sense actually.

[@baneoftechnology]

disney moms gotta die somehow

[@Miriam_J_]

BaneOfTechnology Except the T H I C C ones. Those are safe.

[@aolson1111]

Jordan Cadwell Except an elderly person has a much higher likelihood of dying after a spouse dies.

[@emilyr4781]

I understood that reference!

[@sicksalt7765]

im gonna tell my kids this was Strange AEONS

[@user-sg6ww7ts6n]

😭😭😭‼️

[@Alex-cw3rz]

I've never been so distracted by a coustume you've worn before. To me, somehow it looks like the wig is really heavy but Idk how that is possible.

[@espeh75]

I think it's two wigs, one on top of the other.

[@lhaegreenleaf]

I'm very shocked at how this wig was able to capture the nature of Ednas oblong shaped head. Facinating.

[@blackanimecat2]

It has a serious bunp in the back

[@livebackwards]

I dunno, I almost want to say it's semi-reasonable for a woman to wear an off-the-shoulder dress without also at some point getting completely naked

[@Hairyhannibal]

Wig? What wig

[@BeeCreates929]

Someone just tell Brad Bird he is a good and special boy and give him a hug before he starts building his underwater objectivist dictatorship drug city?

[@erraticonteuse]

"I hate the government so much I invented a potion that lets you shoot bees out of your hands!" -Andrew Ryan via Outside Xbox

[@grahamrichardson9620]

Rich Asian businessmen will pay thousands for that wig. THOUSANDS.

[@SamAronow]

(flashes back to wig, voiceover dialogue about wig) "WIG!"

[@rottensquid]

I'm a professional author, and I gotta say, you nail these criticisms better than most people on this platform. Well done.

[@erraticonteuse]

Oh snap, I love your comics!

[@crypticcorvus2879]

Every superhero film needs a Spider-Man 2 train scene. Actually, every film in general needs a Spider-Man 2 train scene.

[@antoniodiavolo]

Cryptic Corrrvus every film needs to be Spider-Man 2

[@paradoxacres1063]

Every train needs a Spider-Man 2.

[@deffdefying4803]

Every film needs Spiderman

[@aloevera3317]

Every film needs PIZZA TIME

[@maxwellreid5690]

“Remember in Spiderman the greatest movie of all time” Truer words were never spoken

[@lucianosgonzalez3561]

In Star Wars XI one of the first order troopers had better say "You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us!"

[@aloevera3317]

Finn: You guys are cool now. Can I rejoin?

[@ShadowBorn1321]

"Ohmygod the rat DID have a biological advantage."

[@legendre007]

That's a good point about Brad Bird being on this kick about the protagonists having predetermined greatness. The Incredibles being inherently great is quasi-eugenicist; autodidacticism is somehow _part of_ Syndrome's villainy. In this respect, I think _Megamind_ is the foil to _The Incredibles_ . Megamind prides himself on being a technological autodidact but he still lets other people define him -- they reject him, so he feels he must be the villain. And he eventually learns that, even here, he can choose to be different.

[@wakelyn]

Oh yeah, 100% agree. I think Brad may kick back and enjoy some Rand in his free time. Somebody should show him Bioshock.

[@lumen8341]

I appreciate Megamind a lot more now that you've pointed this out D:

[@viceroymarx406]

Megamind is just an all-around great but underrated movie

[@Kelarys]

I thought nothing could make me love megamind more and you have proven me wrong good sir

[@mokinokaro]

Brad IS a hardcore Randian. This is known.

[@CamilaCantThink]

lol except hogarth does have a scene in the iron giant where he's talking to dean about how he's skipped several years in school and all the kids bully him bc he's smart but "its not so hard to be smart!" (its when he's high on coffee)

[@lydialampard4854]

WHAT AN ICONIC LOOK

[@InvaderHog]

I personally was confused by the plot twist that it was the sister who was the villain- I spent the entire movie thinking the reveal was going to be Winston because everything seemed to be going according to his plans- like he had clearly established relationships with these big wigs and just needed the opportunity the make superheroes legal again and Elasti-Girl was the best play for him because she was incredibly likable, smart and easy to manipulate into doing hero work. I thought that ScreenSlaver (best name of a villain ever) was all a part of his plot to make her look good and emphasize the need for more people like her. When it's revealed to be his sister I was confused because everything that had been happening felt like it was a part of his plan to get supers back in power. Then when she wakes him up and he jumps off of the plane to save everyone, i thought that he was taking advantage of her plan backfiring to make himself look good in front of everyone and still pushing his agenda on the importance of supers. Then when his sister is arrested, he looks good in front of the supers and has everyone on his side. The reason why I thought he was the real villain was because he got everything he wanted- and the most important supers in the city were now on his side, and he can easily use them for whatever further plans he has.

[@willow5945]

You think a boat just happens to crash like that? No, he orchestrated it! Winston!

[@definitelyjaren7041]

I’m starting at that tortured looking Lightning McQueen in the back

[@rodrigohaytzmann3276]

“I like your rat movie” is the greatest sentence I’ve ever heard

[@hugo59208]

"NO CAPES"-Jenny Nicholson

[@catrinasn8972]

"Oh my God the rat did have a biological advantage." Your videos are so quotable Jenny

[@ArkhamJacks]

Y'MESS WIT ONE OF US Y'MESS WIT AWLL OF US

[@atomicdancer]

"You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us!" - the porgs of Porg Island

[@tjackson220]

I had an interesting thought about Evelynn's motive, I was thinking that if she and Winston both did want the same thing. They both wanted supers made legal again but were going about it in different ways. She invented the screensaver so elastigirl could defeat him. Like, when Elastigirl was about to have that TV interview, Winston said that "the train gave us momentum", so I thought that was where they were gonna go with it. It would have been an interesting discussion on extremism - she's fighting for a good cause but taking it too far. The monologue where Elastigirl was in the frozen chamber could have been Evelynn explaining that they both want the same thing, reasoning with her, saying things like "I knew you were going to stop him, nobody was really in danger, and it made people notice us! More people than ever are fighting for our cause and it's because of us!" Also, on your point about a civilian doing something to save them, I'd have loved that if when the kids escaped in the car they'd have gone to Dicker (the agent who wiped minds and helped with keeping their identities secret) because they knew he wouldn't be under hypnosis.

[@KaylaKasel]

Tilly Jackson I agree on the extremist angle. I thought that's what they were going to do with it too. I was a mild bit disappointed that Evelynn was made into a straight up villain, personally.

[@babyyoshi3099]

That is exactly what I thought!

[@butterflytaster5553]

same, i thought the screenslaver was a fake villain conjured up for publicity by the deavors too!

[@ernststravoblofeld]

But no rant against biologically inherent specialness is complete without midiclorians.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

That was not the character I would have expected you'd have dressed as.

[@nightbringer99]

I know! I'll have to rewatch because I don't remember Cher being in the film.

[@Joe-hi1zw]

Captain Conrad I'm crying 😂

[@Scorp1onSlayer]

She ain't thicc enough to be elastigirl

[@brapmaster]

Ikr? Should've been Jack-Jack.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Joshua Thomlinson I was expecting The Underminer

[@nonsensepoem]

When will Hollywood finally hire Jenny to punch up their screenplays?

[@Targisvear]

At first I read punch up the screenwriters. Well, could still work.

[@kevinbeteta1737]

I’ve got a feeling that isn’t a licensed Edna mode wig

[@porchcatproductions9931]

The worst part is that it is in fact the Disney Store Edna Mode wig. www.shopdisney.com/edna-mode-wig-and-eyeglasses-set-for-adults-incredibles-2-1475417

[@kevinbeteta1737]

PorchCatProductions uh........... does it come with scissors too? Because it’s about a foot too long in some places

[@ThreadBomb]

Holy crap, this Disney product is bad.

[@deffdefying4803]

@@kevinbeteta1737 More like Edna Grow'd amirite

[@cheneymoss3432]

Interesting points Jenny. Though I would note one thing about Winston and Evelyne's father and his phones to superheroes. The two heroes he had phones to connect with were two of the heroes that Syndrome had killed during his testing of his robot in the first movie. If I recall correctly, the break-in occurred after being a superhero was outlawed, so it is very possible that the heroes could not respond to help Winston's father because they were already dead.

[@gee159]

ratatouille’s my favourite Pixar film too!! I’ve found that a few youtubers I’ve watched who make content about disney tend to dismiss it for some reason? idk I just love ratatouille a lot

[@Donteatacowman]

I'm digging this Emile fanfic! Taking Ratatouille as a standalone work, I think that the bad moral there is sort of true. Like, no matter how hard you study or work, you might never become as great as the people who naturally have more talent in a given field than you, especially if those other people are also studying and working just as hard. Like, I think Emile could definitely have been a great chef if his motivations did a 180 and he decided he wanted to try to outdo Remy. But Remy started early, was born with a natural talent, has passion for cooking, and spent his life studying it. Emile could maybe find success in the kitchen but probably would never surpass Remy, but I don't see anything wrong with that, either. And I realize that you know this and you're just making a point about Brad Bird's bigger themes but I already typed a paragraph about these rat boys and I don't wanna delete it. Love love loved this video. How much would it take on Patreon to get an entire video where you talk in that fake Brooklyn accent?

[@taylife3145]

"I liked your rat movie" I'm deceased

[@EmersonFlemingEmRock13]

I remember seeing a Brad Bird interview around when Tomorrowland came out where he went into immense detail about how the villain is actually right. I love Brad Bird and all of his films but he never explains that the Randian villains are wrong beyond “they are the bad guys.”

[@finnj.harrison6139]

Jenny Nicholson has a great Strange Æons cosplay

[@keisha8270]

Finn J. Harrison Oh my God! You watch her too? LOVE HER

[@davidwright1577]

Yaasssss

[@moonmaster5496]

Finn J. Harrison yes love strange aeons

[@b_o_t_i1065]

I think I love you

[@gmoney66]

I thought the after-credits sequence where it cuts to Violet and Dash having a random conversation, ending with Dash saying "I don't feel so good..." was a bit alarming.

[@KhalilSiddeeq]

If we can get an Incredibles sequel 10+ years after the original then we can definitely get a dystopian edgy Ratatouille sequel

[@sulphurman]

After watching incredible 2 I did feel it finished without tying all the loose ends but I couldn’t finger what those unresolved issues were. It was that there was no clear counter point to the antagonists theory!! You had it spot on!

[@IKIGAIofficial]

Only jenny can make edna mode look like a hot mama.

[@xmlthegreat]

joseph casas edna is voiced by a guy, fyi.

[@star88wars]

Akshay Anand and your point is?

[@xmlthegreat]

Qui-Mono it's just information. The more you know....

[@Mor4me]

The camera angle is set so that she looks a child ,looking up at you for .....”that’s your mind”

[@cr0nicdahedgeh0g]

Stop objectifying her

[@tylerlee328]

I deeply love the concept of a villain with complex motives and plans that is constantly undermined by a hero that simply can not be bothered to care “A-are you wearing headphones during our final fight?!!” “Yeaaa, you started talking about your dad, and being a therapist is kinda a secret identity only sorta thing for me.”

[@poppyameiIa]

ugh, edna... i’m such a big fan, so glad you’ve started a youtube!

[@dougwhiddon8227]

Brad Bird took 14 years to crap out a sequel that any competent hack could have given us in 3 months. I always thought that the sequel would skip forward the same amount of time and tell us the story of the family moving apart and then coming back together. Violet would be just getting out of college into the real world, Dash would be just starting college, Jack Jack is in high school - everyone is moving in different directions, but they are still family. That's the movie I thought we would get.

[@charleynewman5057]

Yeah, No. There is no way Brad Bird spent 14 years on this. I'm pretty certain that under the Disney regime, Pixar is being ordered to make sequels to their movies now, despite never wanting to do this in the past. They demanded that Incredibles 2 be made and Bird stayed on simply so somebody else wouldn't bastardize the characters he created.

[@Whatlander]

This movie really left me wondering how far they plan to take these characters, re: JackJack's power creep. In the first movie, their powers all reflected their personalities and family roles, and the baby had a bunch of powers related to things babies apparently do. (I do not have any babies, but my mum found it very relatable.) In the second movie, they're growing past those roles and expressing identities outside of their powers. (Elastigirl proves herself to a brilliant detective; Violet is assertive, etc.) And JackJack's stagnation as "the character that's a baby" gets retconned into "he's a polymorph, which is a thing now, and he has all the powers." But now, as much as they've set up everyone else to have arcs, the baby's just a superpower machine. Are they going to change his powers again with a third installment, or will he just stay as a OP baby forever? Can they even make a third film without tiptoeing around the fact that JackJack can do literally anything? Hard to sell a convincing conflict or allow the others to age with him in the middle of it all. TBH Syndrome's plan of raising JackJack to be a villain would have made for a really compelling third act.

[@themediaangel7413]

The description says "I can't remember the villain from The Good Dinosaur at all". That kinda hurts my heart because I thought Thunderclap the purple pterodactyl was cool...

[@atlasmonkeyleon]

The true villain of The Good Dinosaur was nature itself.

[@star3catcherSEQUEL]

Wow, The Incredibles and The Iron Giant kinda do have opposite morals.

[@paigehaddas5221]

This is honestly the best channel I have or will ever subscribed to

[@simoneskerritt1756]

I’m so glad you put this into words. The first incredibles always rubbed me the wrong way but I could never put my finger on it.

[@roseclouds5838]

I loved the whole plot of elastigirl getting some spotlight while mr incredible kept acting salty because it’s 2018 and he doesn’t want to sound sexist

[@charleynewman5057]

the movie takes place in the sixties.

[@hannahj4020]

Charley Newman it very obviously doesn’t. There’s high tech that wasnt available in that time period.

[@weiyin8046]

Hannah J alternate universe 1960s

[@deffdefying4803]

@@hannahj4020 There's also superhumans that weren't available... ever.

[@veronicapiper4507]

Charley Newman this is it. The dumbest comment ever written

[@Lovely-Lad]

I love watching these analyses because what you say makes sense and makes me look at the movies I like from a different angle while also not hating me for liking them

[@helladapttoreading8465]

"Not everyone can be a great , but a great can come from anywhere." I don't have a problem with this idea. You can learn and practice guitar for your whole life but that doesn't guarantee you'll be Jimi Hendrix. Not everyone can get a PhD in physics, and the majority of those that do won't be Richard Feynman. I did three years of musical theater and even with hours and hours of practice, my singing never got beyond mediocre. And I never found the internal sense of rhythm that some of the people around me had, and that's okay. It's hard work and natural talent (along with other kinds of luck) that make people great at something. (I agreed with everything else; I love your videos)

[@jindraws]

I just didn't get why the one superhero girl who could make portals just didn't make a portal infront of the boat and send it back the other way, away from the city

[@spaceflare155]

She probably can't make portals that big

[@LaLaLaLaNom]

I mean, the message that sometimes even with hard work and perseverance things wont always work out IS a good message; What happens is people are conditioned to believe that hard work is ALWAYS enough so when they still fail at something even though they worked hard at it, it’s even more depressing because that’s not the outcome they were told all their lives would happen, and they just feel it even more as a loss. But if you teach people that sometimes things won’t work out even if you work hard, but that this is okay because it doesn’t mean that you’re a failure or anything; it’s just a part of life, I think that this helps people to get over the concept that they HAVE to win at every single thing just because they tried. If they try and fail, it’s still okay because their effort and passion doesn’t go away. They just need to find that something else that WILL work for them, and who knows maybe that second or third of fourth try will be even better than the first one would have been.

[@jvstpeachy8862]

Your channel is the best tbh when I see an upload from you I get hyped

[@SEMIA123]

I think a good way to have the scene you're describing would have been a normal person stand between the hero and villains, and the person wastes time by making the villain guess what sort of power they have, only for their lack of power to have been revealed. The stalling gives enough time for (plot thing that beats the villains/hero needs a moment to rest or escape).

[@Sawdustinthemakeup]

"It's not fair to your brother Remi! No wonder your relationship is so broken!" This line killed me and I don't know why.

[@MyssBlewm]

Every movie should just cut that scene from Spider-Man into their movie somewhere.

[@ricksflicks-]

7 seconds in and I have already decided that this Jenny cosplay is the most adorable thing I have ever and will ever see in my life.

[@chandler7493]

If I were to make an Incredibles 3 to try to cap off the themes of the Brad Bird films in a more cohesive, less off-putting way, it would be about how yes, some people may have *special* super powers, but that doesn't make *them* special because they are going to face their own personal set of challenges in their life, just like everyone else. How we face down life and the highs and lows we have to deal with are more similar than they are different, powers or not.

[@mastermarkus5307]

I'm reminded of the fact that in the first Incredibles, the only real problem I had with Syndrome's plan was the killing people part. Brad Bird has a point in the idea of "sometimes great people are held back by society", but looking at it in an ubermensch, "only those born great can be great" perspective is unsettling to say the least.

[@GenghisVern]

props for that incredible wig. get it? props?

[@thomasrocha4891]

Just discovered your channel. Love it. Came in here watching videos on 1.5 speed, watched a few, then realized that if you had this kind of cadence on 1.5, then you probably talked pretty slow on normal. Changed it to normal. Whoa.

[@DustyMusician]

Edna. Mode.

[@atlasmonkeyleon]

And guest.

[@JoshForeman]

I've only been to New York once, but your accent was convincing to me