Please take Toy Story 4 away from me

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[@lightning860]

I have no pull string and I must scream

[@BrutalKnight55]

Solid reference. Have a like

[@lightning860]

@@BrutalKnight55 Thanks

[@tessmiller7943]

Oh no, which toy is benny? Probably not something anyone should think about

[@mathieuleader8601]

lit reference

[@Thetazord]

Yikes. Scary. Love it. Awesome adaptation of an amazing reference. Who would Benny be? Good question. Hell, who would any of them be? I must ponder this.

[@caitlin3810]

Everyday I fear more that god will forsake me in favour of a cool Space Man

[@SpaceTed]

It was David Bowie :/

[@armleg]

When it does, you can just go find a better, younger god

[@radaroreilly9502]

When Ra dies and becomes Osiris, he must be replaced by Horus.

[@candicoated2001]

*You can make a religion out of this.*

[@shootingstarbit]

Janelle Northcut no, don’t

[@annalynn5709]

The toys behind her listening to this are having an existential crisis

[@flowerheit4512]

Especially the 4 foot tall plush porg

[@nonno418]

Even the horse? I'd like to believe

[@jazzanarchy]

Those aren’t toys. They’re family.

[@SorowFame]

@@flowerheit4512 I feel like the Porg is in a perpetual state of existential crisis.

[@destinytroll1374]

@@SorowFame porg is also hella high

[@skapunkkid17]

I'll be pissed if toy story 5 isn't inexplicably bearded woody and bo as mad max and furiosa wandering around a post apocalyptic wasteland where only toys have survived

[@moproodu]

Every so often WALL-E rolls past but nobody ever brings it up.

[@SorowFame]

Woody's beard is just drawn on with a sharpie or something like that.

[@greenhowie]

Halfway through it's revealed to be in the same universe as 9...

[@OoJohnisbackoO]

@@greenhowie God it is fucking weird encountering others in the wild who know what Nine is

[@user-gn1cl9ix7p]

I’d watch that.

[@alejandroescobar2797]

Woody: "There's a snake in my boot!" Jenny: "So basically happiness is perpetually fleeting and we're destined to die miserable and alone."

[@marshalinehamismother]

I don’t know why, but I was always under the impression that kids love was the reason they were alive, in like a magic pixie dust way so as toys stop getting played with they die naturally and so being a lost toy means that you accept your mortality and that you know you’re going to die without a child’s love.

[@RoboBoddicker]

Indeed, there is a snake in all our boots, Woody. And its name is Death.

[@professorhaystacks6606]

@@marshalinehamismother Ah, which is why they seek out children at parties or other places where random extra toys won't be thought of as odd. That's their equivalent of eating. Given how long Jesse languished, though, if that is the case it takes a long time.

[@LMedici]

@@professorhaystacks6606 Also the Villain of the second film was a collectable in a box and had never been played with; so I Guess the theory falls apart there.

[@marshalinehamismother]

Mario Angel Medina maybe! And that would solve the Jesse problem. But it could also be that the prospector was keeping her alive? That way if you’re an adult and keep your toys around and you still love them they’re still alive even if you don’t play with them all the time?

[@Reflox1]

I came for thoughts on Toy Story 4 and all I got is existential dread

[@johans3164]

We are too blind to see the truth

[@pakapata]

Existence is pain

[@marshalinehamismother]

I don’t know why, but I was always under the impression that kids love was the reason they were alive, in like a magic pixie dust way so as toys stop getting played with they die naturally and so being a lost toy means that you accept your mortality and that you know you’re going to die without a child’s love.

[@mokimon5079]

Same

[@chrissegura1246]

That’s actually what I got out of the movie. Existential dread.

[@outofhere2534]

As a day camp worker, I can confirm that so many toys must accept their mortality within the first week of entrance. Kids don’t play gently.

[@luuuuux_]

True. I have a younger brother and he once broke the leg of his toy cow within seconds of opening the package and holding it.

[@user-sg6ww7ts6n]

taako! from tv!

[@miguelcuriel1987]

Thats basically what happens in toy story 3 with the little kids

[@sillyd0g]

there there was me, who was convinced all plushies were sentient and would yell at other kids if they were too rough with the stuffed animals because they were hurting them. i still at 23 feel kinda bad when i find one of my many stuffed animals face down on the floor.

[@robzilla730]

A Toy Death camp?

[@go5thhour]

Imagine Bonnie later finding out Woody is missing, being upset about it enough that the parents consider trying to get her a new one, googling Woody, and finding out their child just lost a Toy that could have payed off their mortgage. Imagine any adult in Bonnie's life finding out before this and Woody spending a good decade or two in a safety deposit box.

[@christalcavanaugh]

Yeah XD “oops that was literally one of a kind”

[@robin2666]

The way that happened to me almost the same way... Because my Woody toy was original from the 90s and was super detailed from back then, and you can only find them crazy expensive 🥴🥴🥴

[@Manas-co8wl]

Thank god Bonnie doesn't care

[@thedeepfriar745]

@@robin2666 I had one of those! But I was a kid and actually played with my toys, eventually wearing them out.

[@Nightman221k]

Sucks to be you, Bonnie! You could have had a college tuition and Al would have probably made you honorary Queen of the Toy Barn.

[@ameliorated]

Imagine being the porg behind jenny and hearing all this and having to pretend your just a toy while slowly screaming inside about how you'll never be happy

[@z-beeblebrox]

We can't see the Porg's tears, but they're there.

[@brianaguilar8283]

I’m sure Jenny gives that porg the love he deserves

[@j.stanley1669]

I'm sure she sleeps with him every night! While he's silently screaming...

[@eli-fm5zz]

this made me snort

[@AlexiaM]

😂😂😂

[@roseivy5956]

I was raised Christian and personally, every moment I spent at church was indeed pervaded by the constant anxiety that God would replace me with a cool spaceman.

[@michaelmurdock9856]

Exactly why would he play with boring humans instead of some cooler aliens he made

[@_trashfire_6187]

Ruthlessnoodle r/woooosh

[@wanderinghistorian]

@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick Sadly, it's very possible that you weren't told the actual Good News. Let me break it down: 1. You're not really being threatened as much as alerted. It's like saying that a Tornado Siren is "threatening" you with a tornado. The natural, unavoidable consequence of not acknowledging or believing in the literal Creator and Sustainer of all things, including you, is eternal death because sin separates us from God like oil and water and since God is Life that separation is death. Since you have an "eternal spirit" that cannot literally end, disappear, and be "no more," that suffering just goes on and on and on without end. No one is making you suffer the same way that no one forces you to be ripped apart in the tornado - it's just the natural consequence of not getting out of its way. 2. That "omnimpotent force" loves you so much that He literally took on the form of a human being, lived up to that "arbitrary standard" life you and I couldn't live up to, and then died the death you and I deserved. He is offering to give you the eternal reward he earned in exchange for your sin and wrongdoing. He drinks your poison and gives you his elixir of life! He's not looking down in judgement yelling at you to, "get your life right," but rather knocking at the door of your heart asking for entry. If you let Him inside through faith and repentance in Jesus, He will literally transform you from an object of wrath into a beloved child of God. No effort required. If you are just the least bit curious, I highly recommend starting with the Book of John. It's not very long - and it's the perfect place to begin your encounter with the God who loves you. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1&version=NLT

[@kloggmonkey]

just know that if or when your god abandons you there's a whole slew of norse gods to play with, they don't know cool spacemen are a thing yet so don't tell them anything!

[@cookiesontoast9981]

Religion doesn't do anything aside from start wars and make people scared that they're going to go to hell..

[@SP3CTR0L1T3]

The Toy Story universe really does devolve into psychological horror if you think about the implications of everything for more than five seconds.

[@amartyakejora5451]

this is the way it's been since 1. it's simultaneously amusing and emotionally exhausting to delve into. and you still come out of it with no more answers than when you began and also you're staring at the dolls & action figures in your house suspiciously, wondering if they saw all that.

[@thedeepfriar745]

Pixar: come for the cute characters, stay for the existential screaming.

[@BintonGaming]

right? imagine what sex toys are going through

[@eggiboiroi]

@@BintonGamingwell if you wanna get into it, probably something extremely similar! their purpose just has to do with adults rather than kids, so i imagine an unused sex toy probably feels just as upset as a child’s toy stuck in a closet.

[@Calpsotoma]

"Eventually, all toys would be outgrown and want to become Lost Toys" said the grown woman in a room full of toys.

[@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet]

I don't see any Ragetty Ann and Andy toys, or Mutt and Jeff toys.

[@Calpsotoma]

@@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet Trust me, there are grown people with big collections of them.

[@AifosViruset]

I think it seems in the movies that the toys want to be loved specifically by children and played with, being owned by an adult, even one who loves them, might not be satisfying to them.

[@StoicVeR]

@@Calpsotoma that was the whole point of TS 2

[@Red5rainbow]

Humans die, toys don't

[@Squattypottyllc]

you say there is no merit in the children being god figures but uh FORKY WAS THRUST INTO THIS CRUEL WORLD BY BONNIE'S SHEER WILL.

[@danielsilvers2896]

Most religions conceive of deities as though they're emotional children. The Abrahamic deity being a terrific example. Throws massive temper tantrums over the pettiest bullsh*t. Conceives of people as all bad, deserving infinite torture, or all good, with no grey area of people who are mostly good, but sometimes do bad things, or mostly bad, but sometimes do good things.

[@slithra227]

@@danielsilvers2896 Hey! There is no universal interpretation of gd in all three abrahamic religions and the Christian gd is fundamentally different from the interpretation by the other two.

[@tinymxnticore]

Have you read “Frankenstein, or the Modern Prometheus”? It’s all I could think of at the end when Forky’s creator made him a female counterpart. 🤭

[@tananario]

Knave They are known as the Abrahamic religions for a reason.

[@marina.chayka]

@@danielsilvers2896 Don't say "Abrahamic" when you mean "Christian", this is not how Jews view God, our relationship with God or the afterlife at all.

[@Joe-hi1zw]

"Oh it's that pin! That pin I put in mortality!" Spoken like a true Disney villain

[@booksvsmovies]

Are you referencing the 2008 Disney classic Bolt.

[@douglasdrywit2158]

One of the many laughs we were graced with from Jenny.

[@a-s-greig]

"A tip of the hat, from Dr. Facilier..."

[@antant6217]

as a disabled person i totally read the voice box part as an allegory for loving all of yourself, even the ""broken"" parts i found it sooo lame that fixing her "disability" is what got her love from some random kid

[@FiddlebirdBlue]

Same!

[@proudlyplural9506]

YES! Sooooo glad to see others felt that way, too!

[@christalcavanaugh]

Yeah it would have been cool if she found a teenager who thought her broken voice box was interesting and symbolized finding the people who love you the way you are instead of wanting you to change to be good enough for them (which wasn’t even her problem to begin with since the girl didn’t like her after fixing her voice box)

[@freddiesimmons1394]

I mean... it's not like life doesn't sometimes work this way

[@appalachiabrauchfrau]

@@freddiesimmons1394 True, my ppms makes dating me a drag. I don't like comparing the shallow struggles of some broken object in a kids movie to the complexities of being disabled. I get they're supposed to teach lessons but that's a little too out of range for media that's half "be nice to everyone" half "X is bad" cut into easily consumed, black and white bites.

[@katieb3172]

I think with Toy Story 2 the point was less “let’s worry about all the sad things later because we have a lot of time” and more so “let’s begin the process of acceptance by stopping the worry and be grateful for the time we have now”

[@bobjones2959]

I always thought of it more as a "journey vs destination" theme, like "this thing right now probably won't last (all things are transitory), but that doesn't matter. Something not being permanent doesn't make it less valuable, and when it's over, that time you spent will still have meant something."

[@jamesosullivan6055]

Surprised there was no mention of Forky, the most unnatural creation of the Toy Story universe.

[@BurningNocturnes]

Oh shit. Oh god.

[@ZoraTheberge]

Right? Forky forces us to contemplate what makes a toy to begin with? Is it because a child once played with them? Are toys inanimate before being played with?

[@DoctorInk20]

Forky is merely *a story catalyst.* He gets the plot going, but he's not really involved.

[@DoctorInk20]

@@ziggystardog I think this is just a case of bad writing, not thinking through implications and the filmmakers getting lost so far up their meta-physical backsides. It's a movie. Relax.

[@BurningNocturnes]

Forky is the Cartesian Demon; Forky is us and we are the Cartesian Demon... cogito ergo spork.

[@lindacalderon2160]

the shark with the woody hat in the background distracted me so much because all i could think about was “IM WOODY! HOWDY HOWDY HOWDY!”

[@MatiPryjomko]

"Ha ha ha..!"

[@SlishSlashSlush]

Linda Calderon Wait... What? There’s a shark with a Woody hat?? I never knew my life was incomplete until now...

[@cortroxx85]

SAME!!

[@garypierce7380]

I'm down for an Incredible Mr. Limpet type story where Woody falls in the water at Coney Island and turns into a shark with a cowboy hat.

[@j.stanley1669]

@@garypierce7380 That would be our happy ending! They can all reincarnate as sea creatures! But... Oh no. The oceans are dying. :O

[@DominickvdHoff]

Imagine Buzz and Woody being split up and living years, several kids worth of lives apart only to meet randomly when their current owners visit a Pizza Planet.

[@YourPalJamieEllis]

I think you just pitched 5

[@Statusinator]

It is strange that they never bumped into another Buzz, other than the upgraded one.

[@reshii231]

"they've forced to lie for an eternity as a pile of conscious ash" jesus christ thats terrifying

[@destinytroll1374]

That's about what Stinky Pete said he was afraid of. "Spending eternity rotting in some land fill!"

[@JukeboxTheGhoul]

@@destinytroll1374 Torchwood: Miracle Day

[@XescoPicas]

I have no mouth and I must scream

[@FosukeLordOfError]

@@JukeboxTheGhoul came to the comments to see if anyone else had that thought

[@thatonestormtrooper2760]

Jenny Nicholson: come for the review, stay for the existential dread.

[@ThreadBomb]

I'll accept my mortality when I'm dead.

[@ColdHawk]

Toy Story, a dark dystopian franchise like the Christmas Prince movies? Hmmmmm....

[@tinaj3279]

I can tell this was a great review cause after it I feel uncomfortable and sad after it.

[@arcyarcanine]

after it after it

[@dantelundell9386]

after it

[@dothedao]

You made such a good point and after it two people felt the need to dunk on you after it.

[@tinaj3279]

@@dothedao you know what, you get kudos for being clever with it lmaoooo imma hit ya with a like 💖

[@dothedao]

@@tinaj3279 I was honestly annoyed at the replies and was going to call them out for being pedantic but then was like, "Oh no my sincere reply turned into a bit and now I'm the asshole" So...I'm really glad you enjoyed it lol

[@MJTRadio]

I usually loathe the “fantastical elements were never real” kind of theories in children’s material. But I think picturing that these really were stories that Andy and Bonnie made up about their fuzz and plastic pals really is the most satisfying answer. I like to think the ever imaginative Andy had fun making up fantastical scenarios for why his toys were lost or what they were doing while he was off at summer camp. And when he chose to finally give them away, being a teenager with a little more bite to his storytelling but still a lot of sentimentality, he imagined them off on one last hoorah. When he gave them to Bonnie, he taught her all of their personalities, so they remained intact throughout the stories she sent them on. Maybe Andy’s sister told her he used to have a Bo Peep lamp and would play her as Woody’s love interest, so Bonnie came up with a big reunion story for them... which covered up the reality she’d actually lost Woody while her family was on vacation. Maybe that’s not so satisfying to some viewers, but, anymore, it’s what I think was really going on.

[@rebeccaucich1290]

Wait this is so sweet lol

[@youseenednedisdead]

i like this

[@sophiemontecalvo7503]

Aw, I really like this.

[@amartyakejora5451]

that's a really sweet interpretation. im kind of blown away this is the first i heard of this type of angle. also, a cool extension to this is Andy is the sort of fictional "writer/director" of the first 3 toy stories (kind of mirroring his playtimes with them), which explains how toy story 4, which is "written & directed" by Bonnie, toys with the worldbuilding of it all and kind of sticks out among the series as having slightly different logics.

[@machvia2429]

Oh my god i've never heard this theory, but i really kind of like it! At least for me it wraps up a thing that bugged me about the ending of Toy Story 2 as a kid which was 'wait, where does Andy's mom think these new toys came from? He audibly thanks her for them, so it's not like he's hiding them from her'. Under this theory, she probably *could have* just gotten them for him!

[@jasminewadsworth1983]

Jenny sounds like she's consistently 3 seconds from crying, occasionally fluctuating to 1 second from crying.

[@robertdougherty349]

She's just really concerned about toy equality and indigenous toy rights.

[@user-qs9ps3hw6u]

Why’s this so accurate fuck

[@s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657]

@@robertdougherty349 "Are they all jealous of small toy privilege? "

[@lettucehouse300]

not gonna lie i don't hear it

[@johnnyray9107]

Especially prevalent at around 11:27 😭

[@bigsteve3481]

jenny it's 1:37 a.m. I was about to go to bed why would you do this to me personally

[@BohemianScandalous]

What up pacific standard time

[@bigsteve3481]

@@BohemianScandalous hell yeah

[@teenylo]

I mean I caught this at 3:30 am so like if feel you

[@tomboy2980]

Me exactly

[@brndnwilks]

This is too late even by Alaskan time.

[@scrbusaucuparia]

jenny HOW could you not talk about the existential nightmare of forky saying “how am i alive”

[@JohnSmith-iy7gc]

rowan that was knifey you fool!

[@Rainbowforce5]

He literally wants to die the whole movie.

[@RemixedVoice]

I was under the impression that children making memories with a toy is what gives them sentience. Also because Bonnie and Andy wrote their names on their toys shoes lol.

[@jorgeamadosoriaramirez8953]

@@RemixedVoice if that were the case Buzz wouldn't be alive from the second he got into Andy's bed. Yet he was, even before knowing what an Andy was.

[@FlipzMCL]

@@jorgeamadosoriaramirez8953 Maybe I've just been watching too much Persona, but it definitely feels like toys have something of a collective unconscious element to them. Buzz (and Woody before him) has roughly the same personality as his fictional counterpart from popular media (which would thus have become part of the collective unconscious thanks to its popularity) prior to being given individual attention from Andy and from the other toys, which allowed him to develop an individual identity that differs from the original. Forky, on the other hand, was created purely from Bonnie's individual imagination, and is thus much less thoroughly formed than Buzz or any of the commercially manufactured toys, since he doesn't have the weight of the collective unconscious backing him up. ...actually, maybe Forky _does_ draw from the collective unconscious' perception of who he should be after all; the majority of people would see a used spork as disposable trash, so thus Forky's basic instincts are to be thrown away as trash. As he gets attention from Bonnie and from other toys, however, he develops into more of his own individual, and is able to break free from the collective unconscious' idea of him.

[@yaboyharv]

I moved around a lot as a child, before anyone was concretely reachable, so the idea of "at any time you can just be removed from your friends and never see them again" is sad but completely imaginable. I've forgotten so many names and faces.

[@alexisb3829]

That must’ve been tough. Probably still is

[@iliasarroyo]

That moment when a “random” person yells your name in public and in your head all you are thinking is I went to three different middle schools like I have no idea where you are from

[@leaffinite3828]

I mean i had that same experience in a time with the iphone, but before kids really had them and yeah, hard to see my friends realizing the impermanence of relationships as they go through breakups or drift apart from childhood friends, because its hard for me to help them through something i grappled with as a child and no longer really worry about

[@hamberger837]

Omg same, therapy gang.... 😭

[@ATypicalPlague]

Toy Story is legitimately one of the most bizarre franchises I've ever seen. They could have, so easily, kept their stories nice and fluffy but they keep trying to poke and prod at these deeper existential ideas and themes. So the movie keeps bringing up these super awkward and uncomfortable ideas and weirdly tries to marry them to the lighthearted tone they're going for. So you get completely horrifying ideas like Forky, a sentient being birthed by a child who has to come to grips with him being alive and it's just mindboggling to see.

[@video-warehouse-s8973]

RIP all those old toys that were made out of lead and basically killed their kid overtime

[@reizak8966]

That's terrible! Why am I laughing??

[@video-warehouse-s8973]

fionatastic0.0 Being loved by your God parent son brings death to you and your new god every time you reincarnate

[@na5794]

That’d make an excellent knockoff R-rated toy story movie.

[@video-warehouse-s8973]

lewrick L Thanks, I could definitely see Robot Chicken doing that 😄

[@RoCkbunny769]

Just imagine little toys gathering around their sick kid, worried and upset. Then finding out years later about lead poisoning, and not even trying to hide while all of the toys were called back to be destroyed, accepting their death.

[@taxllax2104]

My greatest fear in life is the possibility of getting replaced by a space man because the god is bored with me

[@Freecell82]

Pretty sure that already happened to me

[@tatehildyard5332]

I’d watch that Ingmar Bergman movie.

[@a-s-greig]

What if... when you died, you wanted to go to Heaven But God said: _"byeeee Wooooody..."_

[@jeromealday614]

What if space man is alien. And god is purging using Covid 19.

That giant porg behind you during the unavoidable toy uprising: "It's ok Jenny, you always treated me well... you can be my plushy now..."

[@kevinjokipii4260]

...I'm not a toy supremacist, only a toy separatist.

[@llewelynshingler2173]

He already runs her house

[@ajumbo7762]

The porg is big enough to run off, go "lost", and change itself into The Dread Porg Roberts.

[@BananaTheNinja]

My issue with the series is it's established in 2 that Woody is "an old family toy" he's from a line that came out in the 50s(they remember/confirm that in 4) yet he only ever mentions Andy as a previous kid and he never draws on any experience of being outgrown. Like depending on what years the timeline lands in, Woody was at least Andy's father's toy, possibly his grandfather's(I mean he could have been his mother's toy, Idk) but when they're being packed away in 3, he doesn't reassure the gang like "It's okay, this is how it works, this is what's gonna happen" he just let's them freak out, like he does try to calm them down but doesn't site anecdotal evidence to do so. Also if I was Andy's mom, I'd be pissed "you gave our family heirloom away!? I wouldn't sell it to a man for 50 bucks but you just gave it to a random child!!??" There was a bunch of tiny things that bugged the crap outta me in 4. Like the guy drives through a rainstorm to pick up a lamp??? Who does that? It could wait, it could definitely wait til the next day. The fact that Bo is still made of porcelain but her clothes are sudden cloth and it's like we're just suppose to accept that. The fact that they need a key to enter the cabinet but literally 30 seconds later we see a dummy leave the cabinet from the inside, does the lock only work one way? Are we just suppose to ignore that these events take place one after the other. They try to make us empathize with Chatty Cathy but she literally harvested Woody's organs and we're just suppose to be like "Yeah, help her find a kid. She just wants love" SHE STOLE A MAN'S ORGANS, she was plotting it from the moment she met him, couldn't we have made her a good guy prior to her mutilating the main character!? Who approved this!??

[@bobjones2959]

Well damn. My only initial criticism was that the Key and Peele characters weren't funny and were kinda unfitting and annoying. Kudos.

[@TeTaongaKorora]

But how did your shark acquire a miniature cowboy hat

[@schizobaeley_fbi]

Because it's Sheriff Woody, howdy howdy howdy

[@craigusselman546]

@@schizobaeley_fbi WOODY JAWS? WEIRD COSPLAY.

[@Odelatog]

@@schizobaeley_fbi underrated comment

[@schizobaeley_fbi]

@@Odelatog *bow*

[@Wild_D]

My thoughts exactly

[@mitkitty]

I see that shark in a cowboy hat...and i love him

[@barbiquearea]

"Look I'm Woody. Howdy, howdy, howdy"

[@TrekBeatTK]

Oh that’s what it is? The kept wondering why there were pancakes on that shark’s head.

[@carlcarlington7317]

Toy story: "your parents won't replace you" Toy story 2: "your parents will always love you" Toy story 3 : "but one day you have to move on" Toy story 4: "and find your own porpose in life" Kingdom hearts 3: "or you could let some Japanese kid fix all your problems for you... That works too I guess"

[@michaeldunkel1582]

Toy Story 5: We don't have to hide from the humans if they are all dead.

[@The_Weasel_]

When will I find my porpoise?

[@theviniso]

@@The_Weasel_ Top 10 Questions Science Can't Answer

[@HighguyMcfly]

Still looking for my Japanese kid...

[@nohintshere]

parents? what parents?

[@bigasspockets]

I think if Jenny keeps making videos eventually she might stumble upon the meaning of life and our alien overlords will lift her away with a giant claw

[@gmoney66]

And Bonnie gave the new toy a cruel name. A name that means "Half-Fork". Forky.

[@atrapdr6251]

What do you mean?

[@kalesheonn8366]

Thank you for the hunchback reference.

[@wo3701]

@@atrapdr6251 That's sad

[@atrapdr6251]

@@wo3701 oops

[@AnimeNut]

As soon who lets the Pandora video lullaby me to sleep 3 nights a week, I salute you.

[@charliepie1212]

One time God picked me up and wrote his name on my shoe. Later on though God sold me to a pawn broker, now I'm theologically owned by Applebees.

[@ninasgro2043]

im LITERALLY always scared that God will replace me with cool space men

[@mme.veronica735]

* oustandingly rad techno music starts in the background of your life *

[@brianyoung3324]

Sorry man, our ancestors will probably be super cool space men. But that's more uplifting than the alternative!

[@UnitSe7en]

What if you're already a cool space man? Consider.

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

I’m not scared of that at all. I figure whatever people watching my life will realize that whatever replacement shoved down their throats is a lame Poochy, and then the writers will learn their lesson and put the focus back on me. I’m a classic, time tested character. The audience will never get tired of me!

[@DonaldGuy]

I feel like you can take much of Jenny's read but view Gabby-Gabby's ending as less aberrant/revisionist and account in Woody's relationship to Forky and you get something fairly coherent about the trade offs between altruism and seeking happiness through a more parochial lens through stages of life. As well as how directly one needs to help to help effectively I think in there essential "toyness," it's fair to assume the desire, reflected in woody's speeches about nobility, to help a child is a moral good and valid purpose for a toy. I think you can see Gabby-Gabby's "failure" through much of the film mostly as fixation on a particular child (Harmony) vs understanding that there are _other_ children she can help. Her vanity re: voice box isn't really what gets her there (though it is played as more than irrelevant), rather it is about helping a child in need (lost) vs helping a child who, per her mother, "already has enough toys" Whereas Bo-Peep in backstory did the good work of getting Molly through her fear of the dark, and then was fulfilled enough to go off on her own, live for herself Woody has to come to that realization throughout the film, and he arrives at it partially through helping Forky accept his present role in Bonnie's life, partially through his commitment to helping him reunite with her, partially in more or less willingly helping Gabby-Gabby, and then staring in the face the opportunity to stay with Bonnie and (with a push) _choosing_ to stay with Bo-Peep And then in the mid-credits Bo and Woody are spending their time helping unite other toys (the prizes) with new children. Helping many kids indirectly rather than few directly Idk. Jenny put more effort into this than I obviously - but I think there's something down this path.

[@chey6073]

Jenny’s take was a but too deep. I think the movies are much more simple like your theory

[@Samtember]

Yeah this is a good take. I didn't feel Gabby-Gabby's resolution undercut Woody's

[@souffle-d-eclair]

"I guess the aliens are God now?" *Scientology would like to know your location*

[@7ylerD]

I wonder if the toys have thetans, too?

[@danhoquang368]

I knew those Egyptian couldn’t built the pyramid themselves

[@gamzee3610]

Yeah the aliens are god, 12 of them created the universe

[@neverleavesthehouse]

Holy shit Scientology is just Homestuck

[@gamzee3610]

@@neverleavesthehouse you cracked the code

[@ricksflicks-]

That forgotten pin shtick was the real star of this video.

[@wildwesley9328]

Ricksflicks I agree

[@dantherevelator]

was legit looking for this comment

[@genderender]

legit thought that she got a splinter or something lol

[@theflickchick9850]

“Who fights for God’s attention?” Cain literally killed Abel because God thanked Abel for his sacrifice and not Cain, since Cain’s sacrifice was selfish and all he wanted was attention. So...

[@lighthouse6543]

Also isn't the act of prayer trying to get god's attention?

[@sus5866]

i think the theme of toy story is “guilting you into never throwing away your toys/ buying more so you give us money”

[@fey0217]

bro imagine how pissed andy would be that bonnie just carelessly lost his childhood toy

[@RemixedVoice]

I don't know why he didn't just keep them in a box in his attic lol. He didn't have to give them away, he could just give them to his kid when he has one.

[@tylarjones9281]

@@RemixedVoice Oh no. It is the ANARCHO CENTRIST!

[@Flowtail]

RemixedVoice ...because then we wouldn’t have the third movie

[@g-mandacomicfan350]

"Take care of him for me OK?" WOODY LOST "WHAT THE---"

[@pennythelioness]

i mean at this point andy is probably too busy getting drunk at college parties to care

[@mariokarter13]

"Toy Story 3 is a brilliant send off to the franchise for the kids that grew up, along with Andy, on the originals." *Toy Story 4:* I'm about to end this man's whole career.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

mariokarter13 So the man goes off, reconnects with the woman he loves and starts a new career. Will it be messy and hard? Sure, but life is like that so make the best of it ;-)

[@seeduboyou]

@@katherinealvarez9216 o m g 😂

[@calebhorowitz8057]

I actually really liked that Gabby Gabby got a home with a kid. It felt like a message about how different people need different things out of life at different times. Woody and Bo Peep help her find what they think is happy for her at the moment. Eventually, she too may need to move on and become a lost toy. But that's okay, because we live our lives in so many different phases. There was always an anxiety about the ending of 3 that this solution to the loss of Andy was/is temporary. What happens when Bonnie grows up? So Woody inevitably takes the next step to self-actualization. But not everybody's ready for that, and that's okay too. Different people need different kinds of love. Anyway, that's my take on the movie.

[@RockinMonkey]

The squeaky shark wearing Woody's hat is one of my favorite clips from the Toy Story franchise. I love that it was added to the background of this video!

[@DJRoomba]

I agree with everything you've said here but I'm surprised you made a 20 minute rant about the unintended implications of mortality and consciousness in the Toy Story Universe without mentioning TS4's biggest contribution to that narrative: Forky. We know that there's a possibility that toys may never die but what about the approach from the other side? When does a toy become alive? In Toy Story 1-3, we're lead to believe that a toy becomes alive when it is explicitly that: a toy. (Tortilla Potato Head in TS3 not included. If we think about the constraints of Potato Head's consciousness for more than a couple seconds it leads into too many questions. If he's still alive without his potato, where is he consciousness stored? Do toys even have a physical representation of consciousness? Is he the hive mind of a collection of parts? But I digress.) Now in Toy Story 4, it throws all that we know out the window. Forky was an already used spork found in the trash give eyes and limbs, does this mean anything personified suddenly becomes a toy? Is the paper plate I drew a face on in ketchup doomed to live its existence in misery as a consciousness trapped in the dump? Does this mean there are thousands, if not millions, of suffering objects accidentally given souls doomed to live out their existence in a trash heap never seeing the light of day again? The implications of the Toy Story Universe are horrifying.

[@ChaosRayZero]

But Forky was _happy and cozy_ in the trash. _He liked_ being in a garbage can, surrounded by other discarded refuse, and would probably _enjoy_ being buried in a dump. Your ketchup-faced plate will probably be fine.

[@RisenSlash]

This was definitely happening in the Toy Story universe anyway. Think about how many "actual" toys we put in landfills every year.

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

There's a weird theory out there that the toys are basically inhabited by Supernatural parasites that feed off of the feelings of love given to them by kids and that's why they're so afraid of being abandoned. But yeah, Forky is one of those things that says "let's take everything we know about the established cannon in previous movies and toss it out the window. Also, Forky liked being in the trash and that suggests that, as a spork, he was already conscious.

[@slithra227]

@@blobbertmcblob4888 It suggests less that he was conscious as a spork, and more that the gift of consciousness is inherently a curse to him as he knew from the moment he was born he wasn't supposed to exist. It's like if you could teach an octopus about suffering and morals and how to feel parental connection; the entire genus would have a mental breakdown.

[@Isabeltherat]

Carol Sanz does that mean every fidget toy in the toy story universe has a soul

[@IggyTheBalrog]

In this era of constant sequels, there can be no happy endings.

[@brain_apostrophe_t]

Except cars 3. After cars 3, you walk out filled with the warm glowey feeling that a theatrical cars 4 movie couldnt possibly be financially viable

[@HilariouslyScary]

Why does this sound so profound

[@SacredDaturana]

One of my favorite ideas from Last Action Hero. After Arnie finds out he's an action movie protagonist, there's a bit where he gets a little upset that his creators kept putting him and his family through the ringer in multiple sequels for entertainment.

[@taffysaur]

Just ask Star Wars... Too bad you died for nothing, Anakin... 😕

[@dystopyxrose]

Closer to real life

[@DresdinSeven]

"And who.. fights for God's attention? Who feels anxiety that God will replace them with a cool space man?" I feel like this was the plot of Prometheus..

[@clairew4829]

"Who fears God will replace them with a space man?" Raises hand

[@Kjersten_w]

Toy Story 5 "Some kind of toy uprising is coming" Summer 2023

[@abandonedchannel281]

Kjersten Toy Communist Revolution?

[@joeybulford5266]

Small Soldiers 2?

[@LimeyLassen]

Rise of Planet of the Toys

[@jaredjenkins99]

More like 2033

[@h.m.bergman5185]

@@abandonedchannel281 that would be cool

[@abbyshoenfelt6413]

super carlin bros: here’s how this all fits in to the pixar theory jenny: i’m about to end this mans whole career

[@davidozab2753]

"UTTER NONSENSE!"

[@caammm88]

Toy Story 5: The gang gets discovered decades later by Wall-E

[@TheAres1999]

This ended up being a lot deeper than I was expecting. Good job Jenny, you made me contemplate my existential existence again. For several years after watching Toy Story 3 I had recurring nightmares about being a toy and getting abandoned or destroyed. The thought of spending eternity as a disembodied consciousness terrified me

[@eah4452]

The toy uprising is the real reason people left earth in Wall-e

[@PhilosophyTube]

I remember thinking that in Toy Story 3 it would have been an amazing ending if they all just held hands in the incinerator and then it faded to black

[@ThreadBomb]

The day the toy cried

[@banessuperbrutalmetalfunti2561]

I still, to this day, consider that the canon ending.

[@brunogiambroni1422]

Same! Everyone I’ve told that to thinks I’m crazy

[@jasonfenton8250]

I was really disappointed when all my childhood favorite characters didn't die in a horrific industrial fire.

[@spacecakemaple444]

or they all like... melted together and became one

[@cinthiaMP]

me, opening this video: ok, a review on toy story 4 accidentally clicks on a middle part of the video: "people find the idea of reincarnation comforting..."

[@jasonw.5023]

I just want a version in which all the toys pull a Sid style revolution and reveal their existence to all of humanity.

[@joebrennan230]

Thank you for the much needed Mr Shark representation in the background, Jenny. The worst thing the team at Pixar have ever done is remove him from the series after his standout performance in the first film

[@TwixtheWizard]

Joe Brennan from TARDISposting?

[@joebrennan230]

The very same

[@tomobrien2969]

@@joebrennan230 NEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRD!

[@sarahperkins6421]

HOWDY HOWDY HOWDY

[@turtleboy1188]

Second film

[@thehauntedtree]

I loved the irony of Gabby Gabby verbally lamenting her lack of a voice box

[@andrewputnam2717]

That never dawned on me until now

[@Emma-sj6wp]

Okay but the broken voice box gave me a legit nightmear😂😂

[@victorthecollector9198]

Honestly they could've just made some of the toys use asl with subtitles it's not that hard

[@thehauntedtree]

@@victorthecollector9198 !!!! That would’ve been so smart!

[@SorowFame]

Wait, why didn’t she just talk normally and fake still having a voice box? She can talk to other toys and humans can hear toys since Woody could threaten Sid back in the first movie, at least unless I’ve missed something.

[@jjj7790]

I really liked how the story ended for Gabby Gabby because it doesn't go "you were wrong to try to be loved by a kid", but at the same time completely recontextualizes her desire to be loved by a kid to have a different meaning. Her original desire is to be loved because she feels that will make her feel whole. She wants the perfect voicebox, the perfect kid, and to play the perfect tea party that she sees in her instruction book, because otherwise she is not complete. But by the end of the movie, she is motivated to become the lost kid's toy, not to fill that internal void, but because she found someone who was alone. Because the goal of being a toy isn't to be perfect, it's to be there for the kids.

[@emily9560]

I only just realized she says an energetic “so!” for the first word in almost every video

[@ContraPoints]

This video forced me to take my pin out of mortality how dare you I like that pin where it is

[@feraletc]

Just put a few more in, mom

[@lightning860]

Ily

[@loverrlee]

It’s funner when it’s out 👻

[@hobobobette]

I CANNOT believe this crossover of my KZbin faves. This is the only good thing I've seen in 2020

[@chizchizchiz]

ghaskjdfsdf I was just watching your intense interview with that gamer therapist guy right before this and I was not ready to see you just comment on a random Jenny Nicholson video this is so surreal

[@TheWesternSage]

"There are no happy endings, because nothing ends." - Schmendrick the Magician, The Last Unicorn

[@RemixedVoice]

Damn.

[@chocolatepiano7366]

Very menacing.

[@nihilego3634]

But there is also no bad ending either, only eternity and us.

[@cloveyfawn6812]

Ah my man Shmendrick, im relating to him more and more it seems

[@luuuuux_]

There’s no happy endings, not here and not now. This tale is all sorrows and woes. You may dream that justice and peace win the day, but that’s not how the story goes -A Series of Unfortunate Events

[@pinkpeppers5580]

"PLeasE Randy come back I need my dance party. Dance and tell me that everything is okay." This has to be one of my favorite quotes of all time

[@kendrapain6500]

I realize I’m 2 months late with this hot take but... I always though Toy Story was about change, purpose, and growing up. TS1 is about how things change and that can be scary but can also bring more family and friends and is often a blessing even if you worry about being left behind or overshadowed. TS2 is about choosing a path/purpose. You can do something/live a life that is safe and bland and stable or you can make the healthier more mature option to chose something that has risk and is finite but brings you joy and love and community. TS3 is about endings. People who grew up on Toy Story loved it because it’s about how childhood ending (where that audience was in their lives) is scary because anything could happen and not all of it will be good. Circumstances change but even though that’s hard, on the other side there is joy and purpose and it’s totally different but still has a lot of similarities to the life you loved before. TS4 is about realizing you are free to build any life you want and how that freedom is overwhelming and terrifying but ultimately what is needed to find purpose and meaning in your evolving life. It’s also about letting go of things you loved that no longer fit into what you want. A lot of people have things in their lives they hold onto because they used to love it but it doesn’t bring them that anymore. Woody leaving Bonnie and his friends is an example that you can change your purpose or how you identify yourself and it’s not a betrayal or giving up. It’s just a part of growing up. Life is dynamic and nothing lasts forever but that doesn’t have to be bad. Sorry for the novel...

[@whitherwhence]

Conspiracy theory: this isn't her bedroom, but a different bed in a different room, set aside explicitly for shooting videos

[@handsomebrick]

a "bedroom set," if you will

[@whitherwhence]

@@handsomebrick Exactly

[@3p1cand3rs0n]

With slightly over 12 ferskillion patrons, she could easily buy a second mansion just to put this bedroom set in it to film her videos.

[@realgamergirl4638]

Her real bedroom has too many porgs that obstruct the camera. She compensates by bringing the big porg to her set.

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

@@realgamergirl4638 The big Porg is actually stuffed with smaller Porgs.

[@leons.kennedy2747]

Jenny is almost in tears when she talks about the Randy Newman lying to her lol

[@junebunchanumbers]

Incidentally nobody's more cynical about those songs than Randy himself. He once pointed out that in You Got A Friend In Me he sounds like a used car salesman.

[@loonachan]

@@junebunchanumbers Randy Newman may not know this, but the only person he can possibly sound like is Randy Newman.

[@junebunchanumbers]

@@loonachan Hah!

[@artilleus]

The best ethos of the movies that I've read/seen... somewhere... was just that the themes of the series aged with the audience. For any given movie, if you imagine the audience is Andy's age, it makes sense as a work that resonates with themes of people that age. The first movie is about new friends and the anxieties of children, the second movie is still about the anxieties of children, but more pre-teens than young children, the third movie is about change, growing up, and the anxieties that come with being an adult. I never saw Toy Story 4, but the existential angst described in this video sounds like the existential angst of people in their late 20s, who would have been Andy's age at the beginning of the series (me being in that age group). From this view, the movies neither have nor need a consistent theme from movie to movie; themes of our anxieties and relationships change as we age.

[@maxmfpayne]

"What was that Randy? Was that all a lie?" Was delivered with such genuine hurt I refuse to believe it was acting for comedic effect

[@TheMellowFilmmaker]

*God replaces me with a space man* Me: You know what. That's fair.

[@LimeyLassen]

Isn't that just The Croods

[@reizak8966]

I don't know why, but I can't stop laughing at this. 🤣

[@TheRealHiccup]

"I need the hottest takes you have" *this video* "no, that's too hot"

[@thoughtfuldevil6069]

Thanks Hans Moleman!

[@emilylike-the-soup2502]

*draws back like a Baryonyx with lava on its snout* Ouch, it scalded me!

[@atocanboi409]

"critic, I need your hottest takes"

[@geekygecko1849]

I swear Jenny has the best comment section on KZbin. I get so much enjoyment from reading everyone's comments on this channel

[@LincolnDWard]

The lesson I took from Toy Story 2 was "don't let the fear of impermanence or loss keep you from investing deeply during the time you have." Which is something I've really needed to hear at certain points in my life. (But yeah, "don't be a vampire" works too 😄)

[@MrLockfree]

I'm listening to a girl dressed like a toy talk about the themes and philosophy of mortality and reincarnation in a children's movie. ... I could do this all day.

[@BrutalKnight55]

It's almost sort of relaxing in a way. Hearing her review stuff is so calming to me, like I just can't help but keep listening. Dunno why, I just find it interesting

[@Flapjack505]

Reigen arataka is best girl

[@pizmeyre5055]

@@BrutalKnight55 Same

[@SuperDodger64]

Somewhere along the way, childrens' cartoons became surprisingly deep and philosophical and I'm not complaining.

[@cooldude10149804]

SadboiLox I understood that reference

[@Elinye]

All those ponies you've rescued and restored definitely worship you as their god.

[@Sleepy_on_the_moon]

Omg best comment

[@stephengagnon552]

Oh, no, you guys. I think it sees...

[@billyweed835]

As do we all..

[@safabekr]

As someone who’s watched most of Jenny’s videos multiple times during quarantine, this is one video I will not touch because the existential dread is 2 strong 4 me

[@brookb5890]

I always saw friendship as being the key theme of the films (mostly because of the theme song albeit). 1) Your best friend may get a new friend but that doesn't make you less their friend and you may, in fact, come to love the new friend just as much if not more than your old friend 2) Sometimes you or your friends have to be apart for a while but that's an opportunity to meet new people and gain new life experiences 3) You can grow apart from your friends and that's okay, the time you spent with them and memories you made still have meaning because they helped form who you are as a person 4) Even when you feel alone or many of your friends are gone, it's never too late to make new friends (again) or reconnect with those you've lost touch with. That being said, I agree with you on the treatment of Gabby Gabby. It didn't surprise me when they brought in a new little girl, but I was really hoping there was going to be some sort full circle where an older woman finds Gabby in the antique shop and brings her home. She might have had a Gabby doll when she was younger and was glad to see the doll again, it brought back fond memories. Or maybe she's a collector and not evil like Al. She just genuinely loves dolls and when she's off playing bingo all the dolls have adorable tea parties with their tiny china tea sets and brush each other's hair and swap lacey hats. It's not a moral theme or anything, just a sort of sign that in this universe of sentient toys, there will always be people who continue to love them.

[@qmandolin5020]

You’re right. But I really identified with that movie as a teacher. A theater teacher. I have the same kids for years until they grow up and move on. My business hinges on their attachment to me and what I teach. I love them and I’ve been trying to balance that love with knowing that they’re going to move on (and finding a healthy center for my sense of purpose). I know that’s a super specific situation to identify with these movies but hey it’s something😅

[@gdragon42069]

Q Mandolin My HEART

[@kitthornton2336]

I came from a violent home. I was probably a pretty good bet to end up in the prison or the graveyard. It was a Drama Teacher who wouldn't give up on me - wouldn't accept less than my best, never stopped encouraging me. I am living a happy, successful life now, and 45 years later I am still convinced that she is why I didn't self-destruct very early. I will be grateful to her for the rest of my days. I'm glad I went back and told her so. And now I'm telling you - what you do matters. It ripples down the years. Thank you.

[@catb6195]

@@kitthornton2336 that made me tear up a little

[@gandumthresher755]

I always assumed the Toy story themes were about friendships/relationships and how they change

[@coolbeans5911]

Same. People are overthinking it with the existential dread. It's just a cool concept with mature themes, like all Pixar films

[@HoorayTV21]

Thats funny, I I always thought they were about making money........

[@jbark678]

It's more fun to be edgy

[@user-xb5bz4fu9o]

@@HoorayTV21 everything is made to make money...

[@hellomew]

for some reason it took me a while to realise you were wearing costumes in these videos and I thought you just had like an eccentric personal style and I didn't question it at all until this moment.

[@thecrimsonender]

Lmao you didn't have to come for the Carlin Brothers like that.

[@AnnieC2495]

“Small toy privilege” reflects more guilt and self awareness for your porg than I’m prepared to handle right now.

[@MyScorpion42]

Are you telling me that Toy Story 1 is basically Kain and Abel for kids

[@CriAleMar]

Andy: Woody, where's Buzz? Woody: Am I my brother's keeper?

[@MuttFitness]

Yes, with an accidental attempted murder

[@aila6814]

woody was cursed by god to wander the earth and consume his own children? was that a deleted scene?

[@MyScorpion42]

@@aila6814 well he wanders the earth in this one. Never heard of having to eat his young...

[@boxxylegoplaymobil8906]

The Antique Cowboys is now my band name

[@farahritt7543]

I have a lot of feelings about the gaby gaby doll that I can't really convey but... the fact that she found a little girl to love her was really important and beautiful, and though the fixed voice box did help her in being found, ultimately, we are led to understand that what the little girl needed was a friend, and gaby would have provided that with or without a voice box.

[@KaijuTurtle]

Me personally? I’d like to see a The Good Dinosaur hot take

[@scodaniel]

KaijuTurtle i think you’d be a little disappointed tbh. i’d expect just a 20-second video with only the words “This movie was boring.” immediately followed by the list of patreon supporters

[@Tine_of_Nice_Dreams]

Of all the options I'm most excited to hear Jenny talk about The Good Dinosaur : )

[@Dakotaidk]

I clapped!

[@lzmunch]

The description lol

[@scodaniel]

AmbientCreativity ohh i didn’t see that haha whoops

[@wetcircuit]

"GOOD-BYE, THEME!" waves hanky "SAFE TRAVELS!"

[@ThreadBomb]

The hanky was a perfect tough.

[@jmalexander]

*as forky* "it's traaash"

[@ozbullymorales1020]

That was so cute.

[@gota7738]

14:58 Toy Story 5: The toys rise up and reveal themselves to the humans, changing the world forever. That sequence in the first movie with Sid becomes very important.

[@PowerYoutuberViewer]

Why does Toy Story talk always fill me with feeling of guilt and sadness.

[@Mobium]

"If the toys had actually been incinerated, would they have died, or would they have just been forced to lie for eternity as a conscious pile of ash?" SCP-2718 containment breach confirmed.

[@TheKingsPride]

(Screams silently)

[@nthgth]

I gotta get back into those stories

[@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013]

DAMMERUNG-class cognitohazard detected. Failure to close browser, delete cache, and report exposure to Mobile Task Force Psi-7 within eighteen seconds of this warning will result in summary execution by Trinitite-class memetic.

[@genderender]

Also the plot to "End of Death"

[@leoveas9965]

End Of Death is fucking amazing and everyone should read it tbh

[@timeforlaurynsopinion5138]

i just had a random thought completely out nowhere: i'd love to see your hot take on The Good Dinosaur

[@CivOtaku]

Me too!

[@arlosteiner8382]

It sucks saved everyone's time

[@realgamergirl4638]

Yeah, weird. I thought of the same thing reading the description.

[@wonderfulwookiee6443]

I was expecting to like that film, but it ended up becoming my least favorite Pixar movie.

[@EricTheKartoonKing]

I can't imagine she'd have a different opinion from everyone else... Mediocre.

[@Peter-Pantomime]

I think the Prospector might have been on the right track for you after all 😂 Also troubling life-cycle things in the franchise - the soldier that gets stepped on and is VISIBLY SUFFERING in the first one, wheezy languishing on the shelf in two, AND FORKY'S CONSCIOUSNESS EMERGING FROM NOTHING

[@thedeepfriar745]

Thing that is just absolutely mind blowing is that in the antique shop there are over 10,000 individual items within the shop. 10,000 individually animated and rendered items with almost no repeat items, exactly like an antique warehouse would be.

[@CS-hr2zu]

And what about Woody's original owner? If he was made in the 50's, then someone must have had him before Andy.

[@GlitteryGecko]

Not to mention the original TV show Woody. You know, the marrionette one that the regular toy Woody is based off of? If a fork with some googly eyes glued on can become sentient, marrionettes surely count under the same umbrella as "toy." So where is OG Woody, Jesse, Bullseye and Stinky Pete?

[@fortunatecookie]

Woody’s first owner was Andy’s dad. This is cannon, one of the creators of toy story talks about it in an interview, it just never made it into the story.

[@Pheicou]

GlitteryGecko The original marionettes coming to claim their place as the originals and the philosophy of individuality is Toy Story 5 potential.

[@jmalexander]

@@fortunatecookie the creator that talked about that told his friend. That creator died in a car crash. It's not cannon as Pete Doctor said in a tweet it's absolutely not true. Each creator had their own "origin" story I think, but none of it is cannon.

[@the-NightStar]

That has already been thoroughly debunked.

[@maxallsop13]

the good dinosaur should be your next pixar review. i totally came up with that on my own and not from your description.

[@realgamergirl4638]

Yes, yes. I too came to my own conclusion that a Good Dinosaur hot take should be next. All on my own.

[@mastermarkus5307]

I do too, and it's not an original thought, but I don't care because I want it so much!

[@realgamergirl4638]

@@mastermarkus5307 uhh, wut? Did you not read the description?

[@mastermarkus5307]

@@realgamergirl4638 Yeah, that's why I said it wasn't an original thought.

[@realgamergirl4638]

@@mastermarkus5307 I realize my sarcasm didn't translate well when written.

[@kristhebard]

The movies are about self purpose through various stages of life. In 1, Woodys failure is that he sees his own self worth purely through Andy and his relationship to him as top toy. His growth comes from recognizing that his bond with Andy doesn’t make him special, his own skills and wits do- and that even if he is replaced, it didn’t make him less special. In 2, the toys first struggle with their role not being permanent. They don’t change but the world does, which means they need to pivot in order to stay with their own comfort. Woody is confronted with his own purpose as a toy- he is forced to choose between a life of safety and immortality or embrace the fleeting happiness he has. He realizes his purpose is with the toys and people he loves. In 3, Andy’s role is in flux and the toys are in effect obsolete to him. He’s moved on to different interests, and once again the toys have to square with the fact that not only is their self worth not linked to Andy, but also this time there is no going home. There’s nothing they can do to “win” over time, they just have to adjust. They ‘win’ by learning that just because something ends doesn’t mean there’s not something new on the horizon. 4 is important because, while sure 3 was a good ending, life doesn’t end after that happy ending. You see the toys comparing their new adventure to their old adventures. You see them not necessarily finding the same enjoyment they once had for the purpose they were so invested in before. You also see that friends can be friends and still drift apart in their wants and desires. P.S. Gabby Gabby should have been found by a deaf girl who didn’t have the foggiest idea she was broken.