Insane Clown Posse: The Lore, The Life, The Juggalos

[@millennialseniorproductions]

At about 27:00 the reference should be for the show Columbo, episode named "Dagger of the Mind." I must have copy-pasted that text area in the editing program the wrong way and a later reference when discussing the song "Clownheads" overwrote it.

[@metronome8471]

Have you played Morton's List?

[@levioppo4588]

Not a juggalo but when I was 16 I passed out alone at a music festival and when I woke up in a med tent surrounded by 3 juggalos when I asked if there’s anything I can do to thank them they just said go see ICP so although I don’t listen to their music I got nothing but love and respect for the community

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I saw a lot of stories like that in other comments and articles, including a couple from Critic reviews on imdb of the 2021 ICP documentary "The United States of Insanity." I'm glad to hear you were taken care of, and Juggalo or not it shows the importance of having and sharing respect and humanity to each other. None of us need to be Juggalos or any other label to be good people, after all.

[@djbdone]

Clown love

[@Neeko_Lionheart]

Sounds like you still have a debt to repay, my friend. Best deal you’ll ever make in your life.

[@brodiemorgan7724]

mmfwcl

[@jesslyn2284]

WHOOOP WHOOOP MCL!!

[@Neeko_Lionheart]

I just met ICP for the first time this past Saturday, and they were honestly so great and personable. They actually take time to listen and converse with their fans and let them walk away with a positive feeling.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I feel like making sure support and respect being shown to your fans (or even just people giving you a chance) is an important thing and I'm glad to hear that! I already had that impression about them from the photos taken at the march and moments from the book, but it's another thing to hear it more directly like that.

[@Debonadarjames222]

🎉

[@zargouellette3668]

I was born 1996 and didn't even know about ICP at that time, but in my late teens and early adult hood. My buddy showed me ICP and their music and ever since I have been a Juggalo, I'm 28 now and it's been a honor to be at some of their performances. Never been to a gathering yet, but would love to go and see the all the love my juggalo family has to offer sometime! WHOOOP WHOOOP!!

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I wish I could find it again so I could share it in the video, but one of my favorite things I saw on youtube from a gathering years ago was Gilbert Gottfried doing standup in front of a crowd of Juggalos. They kept chanting but not heckling, and you could see he had this "what have I gotten into?" expression before it felt like he just dropped what his planned routine was and got into the spirit of it, having fun with the crowd and looking like he was having the time of his life. He led chants about late night hosts, complained about a Santa Claus falling asleep during his Aristocrats routine, and a VERY funny moment involving a Juggalo in the crowd backing him up over Aflac culminating in a plush duck tossed on stage for him to react with. If there's anything that could show how Juggalos want people to just let loose and enjoy themselves together I think that would be it.

[@valkeriejones3818]

I never listened to an ICP song until I went to the Gathering. One of my best friends is a Juggalo and convinced all of my best friends to go to the Gathering. I was baptized as a Juggalo in Faygo during ICPs first set at the Gathering of Dreams. This year will be my third Gathering and I am now proud to call myself a Juggalo. I was born in 1996 and missed all of ICPs development over the years, but I love learning the lore and getting closer to the community. This is really an incredibly special community. You don't have to be anything you're not. One of the most accepting and loving communities I've ever interacted with. As long as you're not a piece of shit, Juggalos have love for you

[@sokkatomeson7561]

Well articulated. Researched and edited Gold star

[@patswayze7359]

Been a juggalo since 97 ,im so glad that ICP is still doing their thing . Whoop whoop till im dead in the ground

[@sammoore138]

Same since 02!!

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Summer of 02 myself, and I really was impressed when I realized just how much they've done over how much time. Compared to most other creators/artists out there it's really respectable.

[@sammoore138]

@millennialseniorproductions hell ya brother I'm from a lil Ole town in TN we only got 650 people in my town an I been reppin since I got my first CD whoop whoop all the way from this hillbilly in TN

[@millennialseniorproductions]

@@sammoore138 not really different from my little place in the world lol, but we're all still together in it all.

[@sammoore138]

@@millennialseniorproductions hell ya brother u right bout that I hate twiztid left but oujia macc is killing it right now 💯 whoop whoop cool videos u make to by the way brother!!

[@tommysalami1518]

Juggalo since '95 and I'm pretty deep in it, even working for Psychopathic and Ninjas In Action. You've done great justice man. Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you for putting the time and effort into this.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Thank you! And of course curiosity compels the question, what is working for Psychopathic and Ninjas in Action like? Behind the Paint I believe described it as something like family all the way down?

[@spookydafungi9111]

Holy shxt, Holy shit, holy shxt... Lieutenant Jim Dangle from Reno 911 is down with the clown!!! Great video, Whoop whoop and MMFWCL!!!

[@ryanwilliams3369]

I was on stage with them tossing faygos in salt lake. On American Psychos tour.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Sounds like an awesome moment! I don't care how much of a mess it is, the skies full of Faygo sounds like one of the best parts of being at their shows.

[@andrewtaylor6022]

This was incredible! Whoop Whoop, brother! I started getting into them in the late 90s or early 2000s, and I could never understand how people couldn't understand or accept that their message was about loyalty and being a good person, and they just put a fun spin to reach people. I really loved all the details you broke this into!

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I remember some people reacting "well do they have to give the message that way?" and that's something I kept in mind when making the points in the video, especially comparing rap to country music and bringing up Johnny Cash. I know there's plenty others out there that approach giving a positive message in similar fashion, especially in music, but couldn't think of any examples I could make clear comparisons to. Some of the old-time radio programs of the 40-50's got pretty dark and rough though in their process of making a message. Dragnet's "22 for Christmas" comes to mind.

[@lordzacarius642]

As somone whos recently been getting into icp i loved this video, thanks for helping me catch up on the decades of lore that i wouldve never known about otherwise

[@bayerhead]

The pendulum comic series was awesome! Great story where J and shaggy used jokers cards to help aid them at stopping the big bad of the story.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Seeing the Joker's Cards "in action" would be interesting, and it doesn't surprise me that J and Shaggy would want to make more stories outside of just music. It just occurred to me though, I know Shaggy was the artist on at least one round of comic books they did, was he one of the artists for the Pendulum comics as well?

[@bayerhead]

@@millennialseniorproductions unfortunately I don't think shaggy was an artist for the pendulum comics. However, shaggy did all original all 6th jokers cards. The pendulum series used all jokers cards to aid them to kill the final bad guy

[@notsupposed2583]

Been Down With The Clown since 96. I miss the old days when J and Shaggs would crowd surf. It was wild beck in the day. As a fan since 96, I would love to rewatch this video with you and have an open conversation.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

In the Wicked Wonka Tour video I used (and I don't know if it gets shown in this video) there was a point J kept diving in the crowd and security at the front of the stage made it look like they were trying to keep him from doing it again. So in response to that he ran as fast as he could to the other side of the stage and jumped out before they could get over to him. I think in the biography he mentions that he loves doing it because he felt like he was actually giving himself to the fans (might be from a random interview though). And if you want to chat about things feel free to do it here or contact me on twitter!

[@Therealmudd69]

much love! loved the details!

[@shawnk.]

Thank you for this video! I've been a Juggalo since the early 90's and this takes me down memory lane. Whoop Whoop 💥

[@TJ-928]

Whaddup fam! The lore is super fun! Im a Great Milenko and Amazing Jeckel Brothers jug myself 🪓🤡

[@UMMOWOW]

loved this video!!!

[@sheep3866]

The ICP songs on my playlist (I blare this out of my speakers while driving 90+): If, My Axe, Mr. Happy, Bizzar, F### The World, I Want My S###, Ol' Evil Eye, The Joker's Wild, Headless Boogie, The Show Must Go On, House of Mirrors, Mr. Johnson's Head, Dead Body Man, Radio Stars, 12

[@gypsywoman9140]

😅 Literally had to stop the video to go rock out to The Great Milenko track. The laughs and beat are everything! Great album, great song, great art, and some kickass music videos. Halls of Illusion was brilliant!

[@joshbarclay9548]

Very well said brother! Thank you for putting this together!

[@AngelStudios17]

This is an incredible video man Whoop whoop homie

[@giliivanov7020]

thank u for this amazing video!! WHOOP WHOOP !!🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@shaunquixote3320]

Thank you for making this WHOOP WHOOP

[@NewportBox100s]

Such a great video! Subscribed. I’ve been a Juggalo since 2003.

[@spot.themagicninja6087]

Great video. Dig your style.

[@catsdontlikefancy285]

Good job man! Keep up the good work!

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I'll do my best, thanks!

[@Fractured_Reflection]

Amazing work, this was a really interesting topic to learn about! It's hard to put into words thoughts about something so expansive but the lessons surrounding the posse I definetly found admirable and worth sharing.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Thank you very much! I know ICP is a hard sell in general and a lot of time spent on the video was trying to make sure the points and lessons weren't overshadowed. For instance, I removed a bit of their earlier criminal stuff they openly talk about in the autobiography (including sections of Shaggy describing in detail how they did stuff like steal car radios) because I felt it was repetitive to keep saying "and they did bad stuff." I feel like the changes I put in to cover that glossed over it a little too much, but I think the point stands that their faults and stains influence how they want their current lives and their fans to be.

[@JR-xt4nk]

This was super informative dude thank you! I’ve been listening since I was like a sophomore in high school. I’ve always wondered what the lore was and had a decent understanding but this cleared some things up. Thank you for the long ass video bro keep it up 👍

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I was kinda in the same boat as you starting this, knew there was plenty interesting but never knew just how much there really was. Was pretty fun to keep finding more and more.

[@sokkatomeson7561]

You may also appreciate my comedy. It has The duality if being chill / axes go brrrr

[@NonstickSQYD]

It’s finally here. I’m so proud of you man I can’t wait to listen to this at work for the next 2 hours. Keep up the good work dude

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I did have a part in the video saying your comments and excitement for this video was actually infectious as I was working on it, but as I'll mention in a later video that's true for all of the people commenting and requesting. Your attempt to get more people to vote on the topic in the poll however did light a bit more of a fire under me as time went on and I was worried I wouldn't be able to do this video justice. I'm sorry the section on "gameplay" for Into the Echoside was a little basic though, I couldn't get the footage and stuff I did have for it with actual playing working in a way I liked.

[@NonstickSQYD]

@@millennialseniorproductions I know! I was at work at first I thought I was tripping , then I heard “shoutout to NonstickSQYD” and I about lost my shit. That was so cool of you to do I love your videos man and I can’t wait for the next one I would say without a doubt this is easily one of the best in depth icp videos out there. I’m so proud of you dude dude keep up the good work

[@NonstickSQYD]

@@millennialseniorproductions it’s okay man just think you could always get a group of friends together and make a smaller video about the echo side , or you can branch out and talk about other groups, Eminem , twizid, there’s a bunch you can branch out on. Look forward to your next project

[@NonstickSQYD]

@@millennialseniorproductions not to mention you actually pronounced my username correctly! Most people say non stick it and then forget about the SQYD. THE SQYD part comes from smash bros melee where you could only have 4 letter names, and the nonstick came from when Xbox 360 make up usernames

[@glorbojibbins2485]

Much love, juggalos.

[@MegzDiamond]

Such a great video. I really like how you edited it. Whoop Whoop

[@millennialseniorproductions]

When I first started these videos I actually put WAY too much thought into editing lol. In the end it was just better for me to stick to more basic stuff than others out there, and if you liked it then I guess that was the right way for me to go!

[@rayraysphone]

Down since 98, you did an excellent job here

[@joeyperfecto]

Great video, I can’t wait to show it to my friends that don’t get it

[@kamenanew9867]

Gotta say, agree with most of the songs you fav. Especially the older stuff you found the gems. I...adore that friggin shirt. I want one right tf now lol. Aight im only a quarter thru this thing just wanted to say this is really cool so far and im already subbed.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I forget how I stumbled on that shirt, but there's actually two different versions from what seems to be two different makers. I actually didn't make the point in the video, but I was going to bring up how the shirt being a third-party creation is evidence of society being more generally accepting of ICP compared to the past. And, of course, thank you!

[@joebond4706]

WHOOP WHOOP!!!

[@kid_lucchese]

Entertaining.

[@popgillz4982]

Great video ! Mcl fam!

[@vhs_vortex]

Very much enjoyed this video man. You broke it all down nicely and clearly did your research well. Nice to see someone who's not an awkward and/or off-putting weirdo talk about Juggalo stuff on YT.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Thank you! I thought of having some fun doing facepaint and Faygo, but decided it was too much of a clash with my other videos and I wouldn't have come off as honest in my presentation of things since I would have had to "play it up" so to speak. Don't know what others are like out there, but I can't fault them for being who they are and enjoying it.

[@FranciscoSanchez-we1qe]

Dude u killed whoop whoop I hope u make more icp/psychopathic content mcl

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I'll try to keep up with any new lore for completion's sake, but if I revisit the other Psychopathic Records acts (current and former, I'll treat them all the same) it probably won't be as in-depth as this was unless/until I'm able to have more free time to give them that kind of focus. This video took about three months if not more, and that was with me already having half their albums when work started lol.

[@terric555]

Whoop whoop 🙌🏽 love the juggalo love and lore ❤

[@ecco256]

Whoop whoop bro amazing video! Cheers from Switzerland

[@millennialseniorproductions]

One of my biggest mistakes in this video was forgetting to point out the international fans they built up as well lol. The website I linked for John Utsler's eulogy is a Belgian fansite after all.

[@ecco256]

Yeah clown love around the globe, which is an incredible feat all things considering. They genuinely made the world a bit of a better place for so many people.

[@ecco256]

It’s actually interesting that their music appeals so broadly. When they sing about stereotypes like rednecks; they obviously are an American thing but so relatable to people here. There’s differences, but also so many similarities. When you grow up surrounded by scarcity and poverty you recognise the similarities everywhere you go.

[@musickwritersmovement8981]

Yay! Love ya guys!

[@JackAttackMMA]

1:53:22 We need the 6 hour version next 😀 beautiful content, whoop whoop 🤡

[@chrisscanlon147]

Whoop whoop too all my juggalo and my juggalette

[@aidengracey1267]

"The world is wicked and violent. It's ts rigged against you, to test you. But now you're a juggalo, you're with us and we are always there. Go be decent to those who are, you represent us and we you. Help the grandma's and be nice to kids, be generous with what you have to those who need it" probably a juggalo. I believe religion has a place for teaching morals and fear of repercussions, icp did it through song and got a 'cult following' of pleasant people. The power of music, unite the weird for a positive purpose

[@BridgetGX]

This is repeatedly popping in my recommended because I've been watching Violent J interviews and the thumbnail trips me out every time because the first thing I think of is Balatro

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I had to look up Balatro and that game does look very interesting, thanks for the mention of it! The cards I used in the thumbnail though are a set of 1930's Gainsborough playing cards I found at a Goodwill years ago. Only got them back then because I thought it was funny they had the same name as Aerith's and left them in a desk drawer since then, go figure lol.

[@undeadflipsey2167]

Famm this video is beyond amazing info is on point this is why the carnival wants to put out there much cloud love you did great on this big wall poop from flipsey from spread the dead

[@CarlOwen-hq5lb]

You have a great understanding of the lore. Great job.

[@mandef8441]

Genius

[@loregasm665]

WHOOP WHOOP!! Great Video, so you know there is also an Expansion for Into The Echoside called Oracle Of The Three Rings

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Thanks! I actually saw it existed thanks to Google auto-fill when I was searching for the base game lol. Unfortunately I couldn't find anywhere that actually had it for sale, closest I found was a mod for Tabletop Simulator.

[@loregasm665]

@millennialseniorproductions yeah idk how popular it was icp still sells the base game but not the expansion, it adds alot of characters though

[@millennialseniorproductions]

And new card types/ways to play from what I can gather. The base game was is fun and if I ever get my hands on the expansion I've already promised another commenter a follow-up video. That said, I get the feeling ICP/Psychopathic Records doesn't keep things like this in production for that long. Cost, contracts with the manufacturer, generally limited interest, many possible reasons.@@loregasm665

[@mike1989libra]

love this music

[@FallenGamer]

Great video. Everything was explained wonderfully and I appreciate the grind of laying out the lore that many newer and even non-fans that didn't get to see unfold as it was coming out. It's something that can be difficult to explain to people that try to understand but can't get past how seemingly evil and destructive forces can actually be positive figures when followed and used wisely. As for Miracles I always believed a story that J told a couple interviews I saw. Not because it explains the song but because it's an explanation that made sense. He simply stated that it came from watching his kids be fascinated by things that we as adults take for granted. Things that is just everyday life for us was magical and new to them. As a father I know exactly what he means and connect with the song on that level. Not a song to be taken as deep and meaningful. But rather a chance to stop and look at the world through the eyes of a child. Where things become new and beautiful again. A new appreciation for things we don't really stop to think about anymore.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

It was actually kind of fun and interesting to put it all together, and your point about the positive effects of "seemingly evil and destructive forces" is something I now wish I thought of making in the way you laid it out. And your mention of Violent J's interview about Miracles does remind me of a part in his autobiography (I can't find the page so I'm paraphrasing) where he spent a few paragraphs lamenting the loss of innocence and wonder we have as children and how he looks back fondly at his childhood. Like we're "expected" to leave it all behind as we grow up, but in doing lose part of the best things of being human.

[@FallenGamer]

@@millennialseniorproductions I know exactly what you're talking about. But also cannot remember where in his book it is. I read it when it first came out. If you haven't already. I highly recommend you listen to the audio book read by Violet J himself. He adds a ton more details adding almost a few more chapters with his stories. It's a long listen and may take a few days to get through. But it's incredibly entertaining.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

@@FallenGamer I actually wanted to provide a link to the audiobook, but wanted to make sure there was an "official" link to it despite it being uploaded in plenty of places and wasn't confident which one to use. I will have to make time to listen to it though, I did hear previously there was a lot of new info and different stories in it and some of the Genius Lyrics postings referenced them and linked to various uploads of it.

[@FallenGamer]

@@millennialseniorproductions honestly I don't think there is an official upload. On KZbin at least. I to this day can't explain why. But I can just sit and listen J, Shaggy, and Jumpsteady tell stories all day. So the audio book was a ton of fun for me.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

@@FallenGamer Yea I think the actual "official" USB drive with the audiobook version on it, or at least one version, came from a Gathering of the Juggalos. It's one of those things ICP seems to come out with for a moment and then never restock or resell. It's been archived on the internet, so to say, so I know where to get a good quality version when I listen to it but I would still prefer there was a way to share a link for it that would give due respect to them.

[@gutterpunk4203]

I've always felt like an outsider, like i dont belong, my peers always seemed to validate those feelings through torment and bullying, some of these things bother me to this day, despite them happening almost 20 years ago, ICP and the juggalo community made me feel like i had a place where i could be myself and be accepted, even though these days im more into the punk scene for the same reasons, i will alway have mad clown love, who knows, maybe someday ill bring a little juggalo flair to punk rock

[@Nightmaredeathdealer]

Exactly

[@millennialseniorproductions]

There's really no better way to say it than you have, especially for so many others out there that have dealt with the same thing. And if it's Juggalo flair or your own style and flair, don't be afraid to show it in punk rock or whatever else you do, and feel free to share it!

[@IcyBird420]

It was cool to have them as one of our regional groups when I was in Jr High we were just teenagers all angsty. They came along at the perfect time for Metro Detroit kids. When we all got cars with speakers ICP was always put in for the bass.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I honestly feel a bit jealous of having a local music scene regardless of who or what it is lol.

[@GhostToaster525]

WHOOP WHOOP!!! WHAT A GREAT FUCKING VIDEO!!!!!

[@user-vn3yq3lq6g]

🏰🎡🎠🎭🎪🏰 This was a fire video bro I’m new to this genre,🧸🎉 so thx for the lore 😈🃏

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Thanks! Can't guarantee how accurate I am with all of it, but I believe people's own interpretations of things are what helps keep things fresh and interesting instead of trying to always find the "correct" interpretations.

[@TheDantedarkdemon201]

How I got into icp was juggalo homies heard that song in the game backyard wrestling love that

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I don't think that song will ever get old, and between ICP and Mick Foley's autobiographies I get the urge to try out the backyard wrestling games just out of curiosity lol.

[@cloudair4154]

i was a big fan of them as a teen.. i had a lot of their albums and i also had some posters.. im 39 now.. these days i tend to listen to shoegaze more than anything

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I have a lot of things I'm a fan of but kind of bounce around when I get back to watching/listening to them again. To the point sometimes I come back around to stuff and go "oh, I missed stuff for a few years?"

[@Debonadarjames222]

The images from the cards was nice didn't know about em

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I have to give loads of credit to NonstickSQYD for telling me about that card game, the video would have been drastically different if he didn't point it out in a community post reply. In fact, saying that I should make sure to edit the video description to add him as a contributor due to how much just that one bit of input affected things.

[@juggalogamer8541]

I've been down with the clown over 20 years

[@globalcliques]

MCL ✊

[@juggalogamer8541]

@@globalcliques MMFCL fam

[@jayreks2973]

Literally Every song in the RiddleBox should have a *

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Riddlebox is a classic for ICP, I won't argue that lol.

[@gutterpunk4203]

So I've watched this video a couple times and even listened to the behind the paint audiobook, I have a hard time believing in God figures, I'm not necessarily an atheist, more of an agnostic, if I had to follow any religious belief I would follow wicca, I keep getting into arguments with people that tell me I have to be a Christian to be a juggalo, I know they're wrong because J asid it himself that he wasn't talking about any specific religion, ive also noticed that there a some homophobes/transphobes in the community, not saying it's the whole community, it just in general hurts to see people claiming to be juggalos while being judgemental and hateful, I'll always be a juggalo, until I draw my last breath, that's just the one aspect I don't like is how hypocritical some people can be within the family. Edit: I'm not gay or trans, but there are people.in my life that I care about a whole lot that are gay and trans who consider themselves juggalos, I just don't want something they love to be ruined by spiteful bigots

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Hypocrites and jackasses are something all groups have to deal with in their ranks, in the case of Juggalos though it seems people were/are more judgmental toward them because "easy target" or "it's just some idiots so it's okay" or something. Like you're pointing out though, sometimes in this or other groups there's the "you're not helping" or "stop making us look bad" people that just don't seem to go away. I would have brought it up in the video if it didn't require me linking to a "drama" video involving Twiztid to back it up, but there are Juggalos who are open in various comments about spending time in jail but are adamant that it was THEIR actions that did it and it shouldn't be reflected onthe community at large. And the religion thing I found ONCE a facebook group for a Juggalo unity church (or something like that) where any Juggalo of any faith could worship freely without judgement, but I couldn't find it again when I was trying to get the charities compiled and linked for the video. On the thing about "being spoiled by bigots," in what I've witnessed and read I don't think the larger community would let others get away with being that way toward your friends. Check the various photos in my link to the Juggalo March for possible proof of that.

[@gutterpunk4203]

@@millennialseniorproductions yeah, the community at large is way accepting and loving of all kinds of people, in my experience I haven't seen too many troublemakers, and like you said all groups have their problems with people like that, the punk scene had a problem with nazi skinheads, but the rest of the community didn't put up with it, and I know that the vast majority of juggalos won't put up with any form of bigotry, it's kind of one of the major points of the whole thing, the thing that drew me to the juggalo community in the first place is the sense of acceptance no matter who you are or what you look like, it's all about that mad clown love, it's comforting to know that when I see ICP merch or the hatchet man that person has something in common with me, we're all cut from different cloths, but those cuts from all those cloths are sewn together into this big freaky ass quilt, we're all in this shit together, bonded by the Dark Carnival, we take care of our own, MMFCL 🤡🎪🎡🎢🃏🪓

[@oldschooltommyim]

It was actually railroad ties and garden hose used to make the wrestling ring not telephone poles

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Page 51 in Behind the Paint autobiography, 3rd paragraph, you're right lol. I was in "get it done" mode so didn't double-check that one like most the other stuff even though that was something I did want to remember to talk about specifically. Also, the backyard they built the ring in was Shaggy 2 Dope's ma's backyard in case I said something different in the video.

[@tribe3828]

And industrial rolls of duct tape

[@briantolles187]

The guy who starts talking at 0:30 looks like Brian Zane and James Rolfe had a Much Clown Lovechild and raised him on a diet of non-diet Faygo, meat pies made of fried Chicken and Piggie, topped off with Cotton Candy and Popsicles

[@BreadLobby]

Whoop whoop fuck yeah nice long hard video

[@bdelleyofficial]

I have to correct you on something: ICP never said they intended for Miracles to be funny or goofy or to go viral... In fact, they've repeatedly stated the opposite: Miracles was supposed to be 100% serious and uplifting. They were actually surprised at the public response they got from that video. This was overall a really great video though. You did a good job at going as in depth as possible and the vast majority of the information you presented was accurate as far as I can tell.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I'm actually not surprised to hear that and gave the alternative thoughts in the video over it as my personal suspicions over what it may have actually been. Generally the doubt stemmed from the fact that in the autobiography (and I meant to bring it up in the Miracles bit but I actually didn't make a note to and missed it) Violent J was open in saying they like to make stuff up and screw around in interviews, at least in the days of the book, because they felt none of the news people would take them seriously and they wouldn't be the first or last to have things taken out of context. I saw plenty of times, and personally felt, that they did mean it to be an actual serious song, but either didn't find or misconstrued comments they may have made about it being a surprise it went viral. If you know where I can find that though I'll make sure to give you credit for sharing it in the community tab and hold onto it for an inevitable future video.

[@Littlemissjuggalette]

I can’t even lie I have been listening to icp and more horrorcore artists for maybe a year now it saved me I proudly rep and learned all this shit while being a girl I am a bit looked down opun due to being a teenager in the community but I’ve learnt and I’ve flourished here

[@2skoopzofwhoop]

WHOOP WHOOP!! MCL

[@colisk1054]

Do u have a spotify playlist that you can link for the songs u recommend?

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I didn't think of that and I'd have to get time to build one up, but if and when I make one I'll respond again and let you know. Maybe within a week, and I'll have to remember this for the next time I cover a music group.

[@colisk1054]

@@millennialseniorproductions tysm man

[@millennialseniorproductions]

This shouldn't have taken as long as it did, I apologize. Link is now in the description and I made a community post with it today as well, credit to you for the idea going forward.

[@alexanderleuchte5132]

I have to admit that i only occasionally listen to ICP for the comedic value. I first got a Milenko tape from a friend and i found it hilarious. I still think it's a great soncept album, from the intro, the skits to the absurdist black humor and the song s are overall pretty carchy. The Jeckel Brothrs is musically the most daring i think, i like how intentionally annoying it is in parts and Mad Professor is overall one of my favorites. The two Bizzare record s have the best party beats, so to say, and the Comefy is on point. Mr. Happy, Rainbows and Tilt-A-Whirl are bangers

[@millennialseniorproductions]

My friend introduced me by just playing songs off Jeckel Brothers and Great Milenko while we were hanging out before going "So guess what the big finish is?" and putting in Shangri-La. And I was into it for the same reasons as you, the dark humor and general fun attitude they gave off in those albums. And I may not have said it or been clear in the video about it, but I do appreciate that ICP seems to try new sounds and styles to focus on in their albums as time goes on. That may be the producers more than them, at least early on, but they do have a lot of influences beyond the rap genre they seem to like bringing to the fore (their cover of Hungry Like the Wolf for example).

[@pentalarclikesit822]

The parallels between the Dark Carnival and chthonic paganism is amazing.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Chthonic Paganism is a new one to me, had to look it up. Now I wonder if I should keep it in mind to explore as a topic later, but that might open a bit of a can of worms. New discoveries are generally always interesting though!

[@pentalarclikesit822]

@@millennialseniorproductions I can help with info on it if you want (I am a chthonic pagan) A lot of the info on the internet on chthonic paganism can be . . . not entirely accurate . . . and some of the parallels are a bit deep in the info.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

If I'm getting into someone's beliefs then I want to make sure it's respectful and not exhibitionism. Other religions/beliefs are always fascinating and interesting but I don't want to approach making a video for it as "content for the content gods." You make a good point of the parallels and I think it's worth sharing facts of it all if you're saying there's an accuracy issue. I think the best course of action would be that either any video I make would require your input and time for you to speak/share your own words on it all, or let you make your own video and I'll be sure to share it where I can. It's your beliefs, it should be you that has the floor so to speak.

[@asylumjuggalo1635]

John is shaggy's brother and the 3rd member. That's who you see on the front of the dog beats album. He left partway through carnival of carnage. If you have the original cd before the remaster you can hear him on it.

[@Impact_Player]

John Kickjazz is not on the cover of Dog Beats. That is Don Lichtle, who was one of J's friends and the hypeman for ICP.

[@jasonshipley9316]

MWCL 4EVER ICP wicked 🤡💨👌

[@shanelee80]

1st set of jokers cards and thats it

[@jessejames2680]

I.C.P I was always a fan. Born 81.. but in 2017 and on thier music saved me from myself and heart break. It really is a healing mechanism.. Buckethead too Notable songs. Sipping Fonz Pond Hate her to death The end of the world Miracles Juggalo Island Dating Game Death Wheel There so many Cats get high from plastic If you see it licking it stop it It gives them Pika

[@cycotyk189]

Homie, you seem to have left out the JJ Boys. 'Party at the Top of the Hill' iirc was the name of the release. The FIRST thing made by ICP before they were ICP.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

That album and "Intelligence and Violence" I brought up in an early version of the video but removed because I didn't think I was explaining the situation surrounding them correctly and then didn't try again, settling on my "quick and dirty" comment. I also wanted to make a reference to the JJ clown in Blueballs Incident (a completely unrelated character but it was a funny coincidence), and that being fresh in my mind at the time probably also influenced me leaving it out. There's a few other things in this video I didn't cover or at least cover properly so I'm making notes for an addendum/follow-up/corrections video, because I should have focused on that and Violent J constantly collecting local rap artist cassettes as a point of how things turn out in unexpected ways. The part where I was talking "live" when bringing up interesting things about their lives later in the video was a side-effect of removing a lot of ideas and trying to put them back in without adding more weeks of work to the video.

[@GhostToaster525]

33:53 soooomeone got a text...

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I was planning to edit out the interruption, but funnily enough when editing it actually DID line up closely to that part of Joker's Wild and I decided not to pass up that little gift lol.

[@GhostToaster525]

​@millennialseniorproductions nah it's fine, do whatever it your channel! Beautiful video by the way, captures all the good things I like about icp

[@headless-b00gie]

I think monoxide actually apologized about not going to the juggalo march Im not sure tho lol

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I've seen people repeatedly say/confirm he apologized and that's why I didn't want to get into who did what or make anything sound accusatory. I felt it was more important to focus on the statement that respect and recognition should always be kept for fans no matter how big or small you are. That said, to give the full summary of what I almost did discuss: The youtube channel Juggalo Drama Alert has a video "Twiztid explains beef" where they gave an interview explaining their reasons. I dont agree with their reasons but I understand them (more or less they were scared of FBI retaliation of some sort, but logically they'd already be on the list, and they seemingly felt the march wouldn't accomplish much toward the end goal), however they did say they would have helped with legal funds instead of do the march. And they have had Juggalos stick with them, and some show up to heckle them. However the march isn't the only problem between ICP and Twizted, some people didn't show up for the march according to the website but still appeared in more than one later Gathering of the Juggalos. The "real" beef between ICP and Twizted's record label surrounds a very personal thing I'm not getting into, but again some people on that label have still shown up at Gatherings unless I got dates wrong. I don't want to drag things into the light unless necessary because I don't want to risk drama or other such things, my focus is on recognition of creator accomplishments and inspiration or lessons that can be taken from their works and experiences. And honestly, I do hope they work things out and work together again.

[@headless-b00gie]

@@millennialseniorproductions same man I hope they make peace together again their collab songs hit different

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

I am a Juggalo, huge RUSH fan, and Dead Head I have about 4 or so songs I don't like from each of the bands one of my favorite rap beefs came from ICP and Slim Anus

[@millennialseniorproductions]

RUSH, Reo Speedwagon and Styx are three groups I grew up with enjoying thanks to my father playing them in the car all the time. In fact, the Arch Allies album where Reo Speedwagon and Styx play each other's songs at the end of a live show together was what gave me the idea of bringing up ICP and Eminem burying the hatchet by covering each other's songs, though Reo and Styx didn't have any animosity with each other.

[@santawithgun2299]

Love Rush man, all their songs are awesome 👍

[@7Lace77]

I mean this seems like it could be interesting but I can't do 2 hours lol, another time perhap.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I get it, no hard feelings! If there's anything I want to be taken from this video though it would be the 5-10 minutes starting from 1:57:34 (I should really take time to put chapters in this thing). If nothing else though thank you for the comment!

[@Aidan-hn1ft]

I like the song if we were in a gang

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I saw that one and then forgot to look it up again to give it a listen, damn embarrassing on my part. Consider it a star track for the video and I would have brought it up in the video before the march section if I remembered it.

[@user-no6um2if9c]

MMFWCL4L ❤

[@juancarlosmorales548]

The Naught??

[@RealCutecel420]

yum yum bedlam could eat me any day. i love her little spores and stuff they’re so silly. yum yum + her spores was probably my 2nd favorite out of all the jokers cards. i love love love the yum yum i would totally give her into her trap. i’m ashamed but at least i’m self aware, jesus christ.

[@shawnwilliams1917]

You look like the son of someone i used to work with.

[@opiumdust.onion.]

:)

[@GemBMs]

So far the second deck is pretty bad. Haven’t heard a single song on any of them that I liked. The Ringmaster through The Amazing Jeckel Brothers is their best material.

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I'll admit I had conflicting feelings about Fearless Fred Fury and Yum Yum Bedlam, maybe something about how Violent J sings differently at times. I won't disagree with you though, can't put it in words but I get what you're saying. On my side of things, I'm easy to please though and listen to a bit of something from all their albums, pretty much like I do with other artists, but it seems most of my actual favorites (not all) come from Mike E. Clark's involvement. Other than that, as I've hinted at in the past, I try not to speak like my opinions are what should be taken as "correct," I feel it's best comments and opinions like yours should be part of the discussion more than mine.

[@bayerhead]

Been listening since Riddlebox and I'd say that Fearless Fred Ruth rivals alot of the first deck, easily. Bang pow boom is really good too. Death pop and missing link are definitely trash but yum yum bedlum has a few decent songs. It will never be like the original stuff but that's the point.

[@dishman4694]

I can surmise everything you did/did not cover much quicker. The Bible. They wanted to show us the path of right. By writing their story, their lives, into their music. It’s a family. But much bigger.

[@Fusion_House]

This is the best ICP video on this planet. I’ve been down with the clown since I was 8, in 1998 and I support this effort. It’s Informative, thorough, and has dope footage to correlate the history of the wicked clowns. Thank you. MCL 💚🪓

[@millennialseniorproductions]

Thank you very much for that! Honestly if I didn't pick up the one version of Hell's Pit all those years ago most of that footage I wouldn't have known was around lol.

[@Fusion_House]

@@millennialseniorproductionsyou are very welcome. I got some first deck cards up to the year it was at the time, like 98’…my uncle dropped on me Ringmaster, Riddlebox and Milenko at the same time 🤩 from there, I went as icp for Halloween and sprayed Faygo randomly as much as I could get away with lol. MCL 💚🪓

[@WikkidNinjaKitty]

You killed this homie! What an amazing documentary! So well thought out and I really loved your interpretation of the Jokers Cards and the Dark Carnival. Its something I could never put into words as eloquently as you did. This video is one I’ll keep on my playlist to watch again, and again. Whoop whoop! MMFWCL4L!🤡🪓🎪🖤

[@claytonmulkey6299]

I watched STRANGLEMANIA and then this got recomended, youtube did that right for once. Hell of a good video man

[@millennialseniorproductions]

I find the recomendations aspect hilarious on account the video is partially blocked for only one copyright notice for Riddle Box (the song). All other music used was noted as allowed for use, which I kinda expected ICP would do as independent artists wanting to make sure their work is spread far and wide. Might just be a leftover thing from the old record labels. Also you remind me I really should look up their wrestling commentary stuff.

[@cameronphlodge1293]

Even if you don't like the music you can learn alot from their marketing tactics if you're an underground musician

[@beaublackford3697]

I still consider myself a juggalo, even though I quit listening to psychopathic records after Twizted W.I.C.K.E.D. I’m in Colorado, we got LSP by our boy SCUM

[@heavychains]

Great job on this video! The lore of ICP is what totally gripped me years ago. It was so exciting to explore their catalog and have all these puzzles to solve and dots to connect. Regarding the Pendulum comic series, they released a CD single along with each issue which is where those tracks like The Great Show and $50 Bucks come from. I still got the Pendulum singles in my CD book. 🥲

[@millennialseniorproductions]

The lore definitely sucked me in and got me started with them more than anything, and it was fun trying to figure out where everything fit in their mythos even before working on this video. And I heard the comics came with CDs but I was only able to track down one of them (the fifth one I think), definitely another interesting thing they did. Hopefully those singles stay safe, I can't imagine what it would take to replace them these days.

[@heavychains]

@@millennialseniorproductions I lied, I only have the first five CDs. But yes, they're safe!