Instagram Dog Breeders Should Be Illegal

[@unholierthanthou7748]

If you've mutilated an animal so much that it can't even breed you would think that would be a sign to stop

[@Lupus9272]

it literally make it like- not even a species anymore, doesn't it? like how you know something isn't the same species if their offspring can't reproduce??

[@keithheinz2120]

Mule type beat

[@sazm5432]

Imagine being told by a breeder that I don’t care about animals because I told her she had to put a deposit down because she isn’t insured. It was for a c-section for her overbred frenchie that cannot produce offspring without medical intervention. I saw red lmao

[@Militant_Vegan]

I don’t wanna be that person, but u gotta at least admit it’s a little ironic that so many people agree with this statement yet support animal ag. Not finger pointing or judging, just find it kinda interesting

[@alaynaal-awaj8536]

​@@Militant_Veganwhat's animal ag

[@Wepospalient]

These breeders are such unhinged sociopaths, poor dogs...

[@crowbq]

fr watching this video actually made me a little sick

[@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32]

Pitbull ownership and psychopathy seems to be correlated heavily.. A Cincinnati study found owners of these breeds were highly correlated towards dengerate behaviors, such as criminality, alcoholism, and most correlated was crimes, specifically crimes against children such as abuse or Sexual abuse. The saying that an owner is like their pet is seemingly an accurate ones. Pitbulls love killing children, their owners also love killing/SAing children.

[@sail4170]

Haha I hate humans 🥲

[@violetblythe6912]

having also worked in vet med and unfortunately had to work with some breeders of this, I agree. I believe to some of them its literally a legal loophole for animal abuse. They seemed actually excited by the idea of the animals suffering. Just look up the social media of any of these breeders and you will see them openly display antisocial behavior, especially when responding to critical comments.

[@darcieclements4880]

I bet the people buying them are buying them so that they can also produce puppies and there's no one who's actually getting them because they want a good dog. We've seen this before and it's called a breeding bubble. The tulip bubble was the original but it gets real dark if you start digging into the history.

[@WalkingPhoenix-so2dm]

Calling an animal a candy paint job and a production is some of the most disgustingly reprehensible shit I have ever heard

[@sazm5432]

The lack of humanity you have to have to do this to an animal holy shit

[@dyinginside3797]

"My greatest creation" Jesus Christ this man has some kind of god complex

[@Gojiraon]

Exactly he sounds like Victor Frankenstein when he was making the monster, absolute degeneracy

[@r4ve_39]

i agree! he treats the dogs like they’re objects.

[@lilpetz500]

Ngl for me, it just feels like the most honest version of these poor health breeders. And that's a horrific thing, they all suck but at least this one admits that they treat the dog like a product

[@russetwolf13]

"This is Miagi's adult son meeting his father's puppy clone after Miagi died." They are literally making Sci-fi horror stories but with dogs.

[@larissabrglum3856]

Mary Shelley was on to something

[@gaymer42069]

The Qu from *All Tomorrow’s*

[@Raheel_Ishaq]

Ken Penbers couldn't have written it better.

[@peachesandcream22]

​@@larissabrglum3856 Nah, Mary Shelley predicted the future.

[@rebblepebble1857]

This is literally metal gear solid

[@teff903]

"I have created" for an animal is a beyond diabolical statement.

[@teresahiggs4896]

Only God can create an animal. These breeders are trying to be like a god.

[@larissabrglum3856]

​@@teresahiggs4896 I'm not religious myself, but I do agree that these guys have a god complex and it comes out in their word choice.

[@rookideetrainer1635]

I see it used in snake breeding, but that's more in regards to getting new patterns or colors out than creating a new "breed"

[@虚パンクvoidpunk]

I have some bad news for you

[@chocomelo454]

​@larissabrglum3856 same here. Even reddit atheists can agree, if anyone could create an animal it'd have to be God. Of what religion? I dunno.

[@euosvarietychannel6986]

Somehow there's significant overlap between people who think breeding dogs like this is okay and cute and people who would hate to have a disabled child

[@Schizus]

This is so accurate it almost hurts

[@dont_harsh_my_mellow]

I mean…I don’t think anyone would LOVE to have a disabled child. No one wishes for a disabled child or a sick child. I don’t really get what the correlation is here. :(

[@johnathanchristmasd.4689]

​@@dont_harsh_my_mellowThe connection is in the hypocritism of the two groups. Outwardly hating having a disabled child isn't simply just not wanting one, it's more like neglecting support needs or perhaps verbal maltreatment. Which is ironic since these people are intentionally mass breeding disabled dogs.

[@chromosomedcollector]

To be fair no one wants a disabled kid

[@CherrySteinz]

​@@dont_harsh_my_mellowTheir point is, people will be disgusted and hate their children for being born different or """wrong""" by our genetic standards, but would go out of their way to force animals to breed "wrong" versions of them. To the point they're in pain, whereas the disabled people that are usually considered "lesser beings" or "deformed" are absolutely a lot healthier than the average pug... yet they get treated worse.

[@slimeboyshane]

not naming the dogs like they’re weed strains

[@sophzillaaa]

this is exactly what i was thinking 😭😭 “x3 Bape Dough Boy”???

[@jadeeliss]

that was my exact thought. especially stylizing lemon drop like “LEMON 🍋 DROP”

[@kenneyd5598]

lil einstein x truffles

[@MonsieurBro]

Smoking that 2x Lemon Drop Bodega Inbred Diesel

[@AddRGX]

they're talking about them like strains too. bro's talking about cloning and replicas and shit. "yeah i crossed lemon drop and truffles and it's craaaazy bro"

[@Ratleen]

They're speedrunning the Habsburg dynasty in dog form with these poor cobbled-together genetic trash fires. I can't imagine how uncomfortable these dogs' lives are.

[@KenzLovesMovies]

:( these poor dogs are probably miserable, all so people can feel cool about having a "designer" (horribly bred) dog.

[@rosiejl2798]

Their faces literally look like the creature from the movie Splice.

[@some_condiment]

the difference is that the Hapsburgs that are alive today aren't actually as inbred as these dogs are

[@r4ve_39]

@@rosiejl2798 LMAO

[@dx.feelgood5825]

It looks so.. sad.

[@novakid556]

In Norway it's illegal to breed them. Same with pugs and other breeds. I feel bad for the animals that has to suffer just to be alive for someone's entertainment

[@rosiejl2798]

It should be illegal to breed a dog on purpose that is so deformed that it will be in constant pain and suffering it's just animal cruelty at this point.

[@suanach]

@@rosiejl2798 Why only in Norway??? How do we make this kind of downright EVIL illegal EVERYWHERE? To whom do we have to address our petitions? What _international_ agencies are able to do something about this, or at least spread enough awareness about how these poor dogs are artificially and intentiontionally created to suffer so that _everyone_ will have heard of them and be outraged? Is there already an official petition we can sign? I already knew that _some_ dog breeds bred for their unusual appearances are unhealthy & probably in a lot of pain because of how deformed their bodies are (e.g., bulldogs that can at least _walk_ on their own and a few British Spaniel breeds whose eyes bug out), but I didn't know pugs suffered as well; I know of at least two otherwise kindly-seeming people who _love_ pugs and collect them) as if flattening a dog's snout or making their eyes bulge out is an attractive "feature" that looks completely unnatural and unattractive to me, and even if I _did_ find their features, like an extra-curly tail that I just found out causes spinal problems in pugs, desirable, if I knew it was causing the animal to suffer, I definitely wouldn't want them. But at least those recognized breeds can _reproduce_ naturally as opposed to requiring "human" intervention, inbreeding, and cloning to keep them from going extinct as they should. If someone likes the look of a small flat-faced, pointy-eared (naturally, not _clipped_ to make them appear that way), exotic-eyed four-legged "companion" animal, there are WAY more CATS in shelters who will never be adopted! There's a miniature Boston terrier next door to us whose face is pretty flat with large eyes that our Australian Cattle Dog kept barking at nonstop through the fence when our neighbor first got him--and later had his tail cut off! She was apparently trying to scare him away/call our attention to the intruder because we don't want cats in our yard killing all our wildlife, and, ACDs (red or blue "heelers") are very intelligent herding dogs. (There's a whole ACD Rescue Association in America because they're bred partially from dingoes for the purpose of herding cattle on giant cattle stations in the Australian outback, being able to run about 30 miles a day, & make independent decisions based on their training. So, although they're _very_ loyal to their owners, they're such "buddy dogs" that they often get nicknamed "velcro" dogs because they want to be with their owner 24/7, are extremely territorial/protective ... & definitely _not_ for someone who just wants an affectionate pet because they're strong-willed & able to outsmart you if you're inexperienced with the amount of time & effort it takes to train them and _keep_ them trained, and if anyone comes to the door, their territorial dingo instincts take over, they'll race there before you can get to the door barking, growling, & snarling like a wild animal, and will _attack_ anyone they don't already know; in fact, even if it's their _owner_ they hear coming home, they'll assume it's an intruder and prepare to attack, so you can _never_ let your guard down around them, like _I_ did about a month ago when my husband--"HER" human/the "alpha" in our pack--went back Down Under for two weeks leaving her alone with me for the first time in her life--she's about to turn 10--and everything went fine for the first week, but the following week, I needed to give her some chewable medication that she normally eats like it's a treat, but she was in a bad mood that morning when I held out her chewable and almost bit my finger off--biting through the top _and_ bottom of my finger, which swelled up like a balloon & it was ~2 weeks before I could _bend_ it again, while I was first able to remove the bandage this past week, the wound is _still_ healing, & it's back to its normal size after a course of amoxicillin I was prescribed at Urgent Care, but it still aches _and_ now I have "trigger finger" in the first joint! Afterwards I made sure she knew she'd "hurt" me--my husband, who's had ACDs/"heelers," e.g., "Bluey," is amazed by how many words she understands & the different tricks I taught her to do for specific treats since I'm disabled & spend more time with her than _he_ does, so I keep her mind occupied--she even understands abstract concepts like time! So I tried to get her to stop barking at our new flat-faced, pointy-eared neighbor when my husband said she probably thinks he's a _cat_ & was just doing her duty. So after she came inside so I could get her attention, I said to her that our new "neighbor" is NOT a cat; he's a _dog_ like her & the labradoodle next door she was having a little romance with through the fence. And the very next time she saw him, they made friends through the fence, they started racing up & down the fence together, she forgot all about her labradoodle friend, & _now_ the only time she barks at them is if she hears them outside, wanting to go out & see them & barking like it's a greeting! As soon as she gets out there with them, they all quiet down, & she goes back to her habit of barking _once_ when she wants to come in! So apparently she really _did_ think he was a cat & was trying to scare him away--while she loves to watch the birds coming to the birdbath & eating from the feeder, the chipmunks in the hedge, and the toads that sometimes come out of our toad house at night--AND she gently herds my cockatiels because she knows they're sentient & I used the teachable moments when _she_ got hurt--after a run-in with a fox she tried to befriend, mistaking it for a dog & getting bitten--to teach her empathy! She also acted chastened after showed her my bloody hand, told her that she "HURT" me, & locked her in her crate for a few hours while I was at Ugent Care & showed/told her that I had to take "medicine" because of the "hurt" she gave me.) Sorry for the TMI, but when our dog, who loves other dogs, actually mistakes another dog for a CAT, you _know_ that dog was bred not to look like a dog anymore! Then again, I doubt anyone who wants a short-lived, mangled collector's-item that can barely _move_ without their help & is no doubt suffering in chronic pain for a "pet" would want an independent animal like a cat. The only "bright" side for these made-to-order dogs whose breeders & collectors are the monstrous "bullies" (if there can BE a bright side) is that they only live for 3-5 years.😢

[@scorpionic-night]

nano bully is a breed for people who want to look tough and own a strong dog but are too afraid to own a regular pittie.

[@cwarren14]

Most of those breeders use to own pits as well

[@Imtiredofyourbs]

Naming them like they're tough game pits used for dog fighting while their dog is unable to crawl upstairs bro APBTs bred for fight are at least healthy and can breed on their own

[@MajiggerRose]

@@Imtiredofyourbs But which is worse? APBTs and other bloodsport dogs breed like bunnies (not to mention their owners never getting them fixed) and clog up animal shelters, sit in warehouses, and wait to die or be euthanized. And the ones lucky enough to get adopted are much more likely to be abused or mistreated. They're also more likely to kill/harm another pet or person. So while it makes me sad that the other breeds are too deformed to thrive in life, I'm glad they can't breed on their own.

[@l3ftie578]

@@MajiggerRose neither is worse, both are abominations with zero true value in a modern society

[@gus9797]

Conceal carry anti-toddler weaponry

[@justarandomchick767]

the fact they all seem to act like these dogs are super tough, badass dogs and then show you a mutated genetic nightmare that cant even walk.

[@DrogenNeinDanke]

Yea

[@keithhall3927]

Its so insane to me.

[@amicableenmity9820]

I had one of those things charge me and my dog. Looked like a toad. Me and my dog had no choice but to chase it back. I was surprised it worked. People really need to make sure their gates are closed.

[@WhiteWolf55513]

Can't protect you or themselves from anything. lol

[@kaydabalab]

@@amicableenmity9820 I think "toad" is a good way to describe how they look

[@punkybrewstar83]

I'm a vet nurse from Aotearoa, NZ. We never help with artificial insemination for breeders. It violates the 5 freedoms of animal welfare to create a dog that cannot naturally breed & cannot live comfortably. That's the first problem right there.

[@Trash_Cat21]

Exactly that practice needs to change.

[@OakwiseBecoming]

I agree with the point about not inseminating a dog that can’t reproduce naturally. However, I think artificial insemination is a kinder way to breed than having a female dog accosted and R-worded by a stud dog she’s only just met. I am doing careful breeding from my genetically tested healthy GSDs which are family pets. Mother and father live together and know each other. I learned that there is a NEED for small scale family home breeders so buyers can buy from loved and cared for litters that live in the home, avoiding commercial big breeders and farms. It’s not wrong to make a little money off a litter but I don’t trust people making their full living off it. They start compromising animal welfare for profit. We kept a female puppy and will have a couple litters off her in future. But we don’t feel comfortable having her traumatized by being R-worded by a male stud she doesn’t know and will terrify her. It’s because I LOVE my dogs and we brought so much JOY to families with our first litter, and they had peace of mind buying from someone who cared so much raising up pups from newborn to 8 weeks, that I think breeding with my care, love, and ethical philosophy are NEEDED. But until we can take on another male, I feel better artificially inseminating rather than terrifying and hurting her through a stud.

[@heftyhadrosaur8740]

@@OakwiseBecoming ur thoughts about being poked inside and then one day waking up and squatting out puppies you didn't know you had?

[@qa377]

@@OakwiseBecomingThat's why I feel like breeders should make sure the prospective dogs like each other too, in addition to checking for genetic anomalies on both sides and such.

[@qa377]

Plus most of those must have caesareans to give birth, and forcing a dog to undergo surgery is t good either - they have no way to understand what's going on, and it can mess up their maternal instincts

[@kitkatboard]

Imagine believing in God and still thinking breeding dogs to death for money is okay.

[@Lileya]

Imagine thinking killing a 1 month old fetus is a sin/crime, yet thinking breeding dogs to death and giving them an absolutely horrible quality of life is completely ok... Make it make sense...

[@kirabad-artist6532]

I mean, they do believe that god made the earth only for them to fuck around in, so that checks out

[@TheDragonSeer]

​@Lileya Neither is OK. Does that make sense to you? Or do you just want to be mad every time Christianity is mentioned for some likes?

[@Lileya]

@@TheDragonSeer Ok, inbred. Go have sex with your cousin and make 6 children that you'll barely be able to feed.

[@monetsgarden444]

She's pointing out the hypocracy in his beliefs, she didn't even mention Christianity lol

[@bobalvr]

My shelter dog is a surrendered cast off from exotic bully breeders, I guess her genetics weren't what they hoped for. she has chronic health issues from being bred super young, as well as an absolute chop job on her ears that requires regular care. It's absolutely abhorrent what these people have done

[@swatboy763]

It’s discusting yeah. Hope the best

[@gwencere9383]

I'm glad you're giving her love and comfort

[@Limitedonathios]

Yes all the “cropped” ears I have seen so far have been absolute chop jobs. Aka not done well or surgically at all, too much essential tissue lobbed right off. A breeding ground for infection. How could anyone do this to any living being?

[@Deus_ex_lucifina]

My rescue pug mix was similar. He was dying from a collapsing trachea when he died.

[@LauraGrrrr5370]

Cropping and docking is illegal in Ireland unless it's for medical reasons (ear or tail so badly injured it requires amputation). Should be illegal everywhere.

[@lululock]

Illegal in France too

[@germyw]

Welcome to ‘merika!

[@jestenia590]

I don’t see how these breeders are so religious but are responsible for literal affronts to god.

[@teresahiggs4896]

They aren’t truely religious. This is a kind of virtue signalling . Nothing whatsoever every to do with God , or Jesus .

[@Jamlord2061]

they look like spore animal stage

[@Chasnah]

Bet these mfs deny evolution too.

[@enderkatze6129]

In my expirience, very religious people are more likely to be cognitivly dissonant/hypocrites

[@allyli1718]

@@teresahiggs4896actually, in my experience the religion justifies their eugenics. If you listen to Luke’sGoldies (a goldfish breeder on KZbin), his justification is that god gave humans dominion over the earth, over plants and animals, which is why it’s okay for him to cull fish (aka killing hundreds of fish for eugenics purposes). His fish are also CONSTANTLY going through fish health conditions like dropsy or swim bladder disease (though he knows how to give them medical attention) which are issues significantly less common in fish that have less of a breeder culture, such as tropical fish. Goldfish breeding content in general on KZbin doesn’t have nearly the awareness as dog breeding, though occasionally you get extreme cases that everyone will agree on, like bubble eye goldfish.

[@atomichearts9332]

“co-produced” in reference to a dog is crazy

[@giraffeparty0]

fr they're talking about their dog like it's a SoundCloud song 😭 fym produced by

[@frenchfriedtomatoes3247]

my local shelter got about 6 of these micro bullies, all were extremely emaciated, from a backyard breeder. I don’t understand the appeal of these morbidly unhealthy dogs.

[@deewreltih2124]

That’s was something I was wondering too. They seem to be very small dogs that can’t do anything. Like do you want a creature that lives to suffer in your house? Cause that’s fucked up

[@rh_4m]

Same, I volunteer at a shelter and they got a micro bully, I tried to walk them and they couldn't even get halfway through the walk without petering out. It's so tragic

[@juicesupplier]

@@deewreltih2124 I'm convinced it's some sort of get rich quick pyramid scheme type of thing. They breed these dogs to be tiny (require less food), basically immobile (can't cause issues or injure someone), extremely short lifespans (no big expenses, only profit since all they're used for is breeding). A lot of them are just being sold from one backyard breeder to another, there's not really a huge market for them as pets. Also drug dealing plays a role

[@dx.feelgood5825]

It’s absolutely bizarre too because like.. certain pits/bullies are big dogs. My American bully girl is 80lbs

[@Mitzthatonekid]

I don't like pitbulls. But this is still cruel.

[@viola8379]

if “luxury” is something you’re looking for in a dog you probably don’t deserve one. they literally see these dogs as accessories

[@prettyevil6662000]

The irony that men are breeding even more deformed purse dogs and treating them like they're bada** hulking brutes.

[@erikgilson1687]

I am shocked Mr. Miagi actually lived to 10 years old

[@ConfusedArtist-1x]

Not going to lie I wouldn't believe if he was lying

[@lilaniloxi]

Well he wasn't horrifically inbred (to my knowledge) for one

[@a.a.ie-3212]

His descendants are unlikely to do the same...

[@snowcapmt]

Same but man that’s a small lifespan for a dog that size. I have a husky at 8 and she’s pretty spry despite her lifespan being like 12 years. I can’t imagine Mr. Miagi had nearly as nice of a quality of life once he reached an advanced age

[@KellyAnn2390]

Whoa 10 inches tall and 21 inch head circumference? That's beyond freakish.

[@TacgnolGummi]

Modok lookin' ass

[@acehilm5001]

like how was it even born

[@ludo_narr]

That's like a living Funko Pop.

[@EleanorvonSchonbergThethird]

They look cute if you look at them from a certain angle

[@smidgen]

@@EleanorvonSchonbergThethird so do i but people don't clone me about it

[@aceofspades5109]

Micro Bullies: Abnormally large heads Short legs Bowed legs Enlarged joints (from what i can see) Spinal problems Dwarfism in Dogs: Abnormally large heads Short legs Bowed legs Enlarged joints Spinal problems They are breeding disabilities into these dogs! This should be illegal!

[@raelogan]

I was just about to say that! I can understand if one pup in the litter was born with this skeletal frame and someone was able to give them the best quality of life by pampering them so they can live to the fullest they can... But purposefully doing this to a whole litter and continue to do so for more and more dogs just as some sort of awful accessory... These aren't dog lovers, they don't care about the life of the dogs, they see them as a paycheck 😢

[@the_newt_nest]

Yeah, you're severely limiting the gene pool if you're just breeding these dogs with dwarfism together. Especially if it's just one

[@justanorange6599]

Dogs like this make me fear for what we would do if we start doing genetic things with humans.

[@1cornicon679]

it gave me intense "all tomorrows" vibes

[@Notllamalord]

3x BEYONCÉ!!! 2x RYAN GOSLING!!!!! DOUGH BOY!!!!

[@theparodymonster1]

​@@1cornicon679 yea we are literslly "all tomorrows"ing dogs

[@kingdingaling3376]

YUP THIS IS MICHEAL JACKSON!!!! YUP MJ DIED A YEAR AGO!!!! YUP THIS IS HIS CLONE!!! YUP I CLONED HIM TWICE!!! SECOND MJ GETS HERE IN A YEAR!!!! WHY DID I CLONE HIM TWICE? BCUZ I CAN!!!!! ENJOY HOMO WORLD!!!

[@sendmorerum8241]

Don't worry, nobody wants to look like this. I think. I hope.

[@scarletshadowhawk2710]

Those poor dogs look like goddamn skylanders 💀 there’s no way they aren’t in pain 24/7 just from existing

[@chickenfoot87]

I work at a California animal shelter and I can tell you we absolutely get these dogs at my shelter. Its actually pretty frequent. We usually get them when they're a couple of years old and have a bunch of health issues. Frenchies have also been a problem lately. People will pay thousands of dollars for one and I have 4 in my shelter right now for $50.

[@burnteffigy87]

Those poor babies..thank you so much for helping and loving them❤

[@jae-ds2ot]

These dogs are intentionally bred to have extreme chondrodysplasia(canine dwarfism). Realistically most of these poor guys should have wheelchairs to avoid pain and other complications :(

[@dragonshadow4145]

That actually makes a lot more sense. In humans, dwarfism also can cause bowed knees, like the ones in these dogs.

[@thebigdork8030]

It took a while but once Ball Python owners and breeders realized the Spider pattern led to horrible nuerological disorders, they stopped buying them and breeders stopped raising them. Well mostly, obviously when theres money to be made, some rat is going to breed them and sell them to careless/clueless owners. POINT BEING: There isn't a SPIDER SNAKE EXPOOOO where people gather to show off their disabled snakes and there isn't a massive network of people trying to make the snakes even worse. And that's for ball pythons, the standard hollywood "giant monster anaconda", ask around and every other person thinks they're evil. How did we let this happen to dogs?!

[@Corgisaurus-Rex]

Unfortunately, many people do still breed spider ball pythons. They've also mixed them into other strains that go by different names, so, without research, buying an uncommon morph can be a potential landmine. I've gone to expos and quietly pointed out to friends and family when a python is a spider morph showing the typical neurological issues. Same goes for enigma and lemon frost leopard geckos. This stuff does still happen a lot, but you don't hear about them outside of reptile hobbyist circles because other people 1) don't know about it or 2) don't care. At least in the US, reptile welfare is not as much of a hot topic to the general public as dog welfare. EDIT: I decided to check on morphmarket and, at the time of editing this comment, there are 1178 ball pythons being sold on that site in the US and Canada with the "spider" trait. Just to show how prevalent it still is.

[@thebigdork8030]

@@Corgisaurus-Rex Well find me in the alps, my bad. Its a shame they're still being bred.

[@moss_ball.]

I wish but they're still bred quite often. Thats not the only problematic morph, either so it makes it harder to rule out too. I have a chart of problematic morphs and they're pretty commonly found just by an easy search on morph market. Even genes that hide the wobble. The ball python community is BAD. Bout as bad as the bully community, unfortunately. Both are treated like designer pets and both reciever improper care. Edit: for clarification I AM NOT DISAGREEING with you!!!! not at all, just saying this in case it sounds like that!!

[@enderkatze6129]

The snake's reputation might actually be helping it out there, because there's fewer people in general, and those people are more likely to educate themselves thanks to their passion

[@HeraThea]

I'm currently fostering a frenchie bought by a family who never had a dog before but dumped 5k on a brachycephalic dog that they were allergic to. They left her in a garage in the winter with a space heater. All because they wanted a designer dog. We really don't deserve dogs. I wish people were more educated.

[@SorasShadow1]

if i had a nickel for every time i adopted a husky from someone who bought one without being able to handle them i'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but it's kinda fucked up that it's happened twice. they're best buddies now, too. the first one refuses to get onto the furniture despite wanting to be a lap dog and the second one will steal your chair the second you stand up and looks at you funny if you try to offer him a spot next to you, so they're a really funny duo.

[@HeraThea]

@@SorasShadow1 there are so many Husky rescues around me, but I feel it's extra fucked up because I live in a desert climate. Huskies are just larger purse dogs to rich people, unfortunately

[@Cyborgsheepie]

I’m actually glad I didn’t buy my frenchie when I got her. She was actually given to me by someone (who is a backyard breeder unfortunately). She was only a puppy and the person had her in a cage outside of their house. When I had her she was an indoor dog and I only let her out when she needed to use the bathroom. Overall it’s just sad breeds like this purely exist for looks and not a healthy life.

[@birdie8006]

i love frenchies, but my goodness they are such a problematic breed. my brother and his partner had a pug from a local pug rescue for many years that lived til 13, they did their all for him when his back legs started failing. thank you for fostering!

[@JohnScales-d5p]

I didn't have a space heater growing up as a human. Don't get me wrong, it's fucked up that people buy animals and don't take care of them, but there are bigger problems in the world.

[@spectral_moss]

1:07 Fun fact: the shelter I volunteer at had one of these dogs, and they actually named him goblin. Really unfortunate situation, young dog but his mobility was so bad we had to carry him up and down the stairs. Had some neurological problems too.

[@ishachan]

It's like a mad scientist wanted to make those littlest pet shop toys irl

[@ዘa]

Wtf thats so accurate... like why are they cartoonishly deformed

[@FluffyEclairs]

Except they forgot that littlest pet shop toys are cute because they are plastic and don't suffer if I drop it or don't take it outside for a year.

[@seriouscool8118]

my hair stylist got a french bulldog, and it quite literally came with a 6 month warranty. if the dog died within 6 months, they'd give her another for free. and yes, the first one did pass away within 6 months. it is so messed up that an animal is being treated like a fucking iphone or something. a warranty? because they knew it was likely to die from having so many medical issues due to excessive breeding?? insane

[@Corgisaurus-Rex]

Depends on the nature of the warranty. The warranty is suppose to be the breeder standing behind the quality of their dog. If it has any medical issues related to genetics, then the breeder with take the dog back and replace it (with proof from a reputable vet). Keep in mind, that is an expensive proposition for a breeder. They could wind up with the medical expenses for the returned dog on top of losing out of a sale if that dog is replaced by another of their dogs. The warranty is the breeder saying that they're only willing to have that arrangement for the 6 months that you have that dog. Beyond that, anything that happens is on the new owner. The way I view it, the longer that warranty, the better. It shows that the breeder is so confident in the genetics of that dog that they don't anticipate you having any genetic-related health issues in that length of time. While shopping around myself, I've seen warranties range from 6 months to the lifetime of the dog. It varies by breed and breeder.

[@pkcell]

⁠@@Corgisaurus-RexThis! I’ve heard of a lot of ethical breeders giving lifetime guarantees for any chronic health conditions that come up, even if it means covering medical bills for years. That’s confidence.

[@benjaminjameskreger]

My buddy's family got a purebred newfoundland that died of renal failure before its first birthday. They assured me this was to be expected and bought a second near-identical dog less than a month later. I still cannot understand how they failed to learn a lesson there.

[@BmoreEliteBullies]

As a Pocket bully breeder that should always be a sign not to buy. 6months!?! I hold pups that long if your dog isn’t expected to make it to a year you should go elsewhere now I’m not a frenchie breeder because I personally don’t like a dog who can’t work but to each his own.

[@mallarieluvsgirls]

that’s fucked up. why would she even support that. weird

[@emericswitch2718]

Eugenics in dogs is the opposite of eugenics in humans. Instead of trying to breed the "perfect human", they are trying to breed the least perfect dog.

[@BrandonPilcher]

Actually, if eugenics in humans ever became a thing, it would probably end up the way this form of dog eugenics have. And there would be people trying to profit off that.

[@zerada00]

@@BrandonPilcher That's the unfortunate truth.

[@woagnya]

@@BrandonPilcher Probably true

[@gavinakrolin7997]

I thinks this would technically be dysgenics.

[@_koraki]

@@gavinakrolin7997yea this shit is malgenics 😂

[@mirlambda]

I'm a vet tech and the first time I saw one of these creatures at work I was ASTOUNDED they were something people were trying to breed... and considering she had some pretty swollen mammaries, I'm guessing the owners were doing just that :(

[@dorino9057]

These ugly man-made mutants are disgusting, deformed and some are dangerous.

[@dorino9057]

These ugly man-made mutants are disgusting, deformed and some are dangerous.

[@mrh8142]

Bro why are they talking about live animals like they're playing a breeding sim?? 💀💀💀

[@Debbie338]

Thank you for talking about this. As a veterinarian of over thirty years in practice, this is awful and is increasing in frequency. I’ve told many people who’ve asked my opinion that if you want to make your vet rich, buy an English Bulldog or a Frenchie.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

If you call your dogs productions I feel like that alone is grounds for you to never be allowed to own an animal again.

[@vertraeumtemoewe]

Yes. This.

[@Deus_ex_lucifina]

No kidding!

[@mvg1450]

Let my man redrum free himself from the cycle of samsara

[@sinadimendis1493]

Honestly

[@crissyw1211]

Got him doing 168 revives 💀

[@badassmofo3081]

I don't think lord Yama is that friendly. Remember that the animal kingdom is one lf the three hells, whoever Redrum was in his previous life he must have done something fucked up.

[@bijoumarie8817]

I don’t think Ethan is funny but I chuckled at “how many times will Redrum’s soul was cursed to walk the earth?” poor demented gremlin

[@ecbear21]

@@badassmofo3081 Bro was Hitler

[@1313TommyGun]

Some breeders will be like, "i love dogs!" Then continue to breed abominations and worsen the bloodline. And chop off ears and tails... These poor dogs suffer at humans whim and hubris.

[@CommanderWiggins]

I feel like to truly love and care about dogs and breed them, you have to be doing it to better the breed. If you love dogs you want them to be healthier and live longer with careful breeding and health testing. The people who are making dogs more unhealthy don't actually love dogs, they love money.

[@FukaiKokoro]

Just to add, not all dogs without tails are docked. There's about 15 breeds that naturally are born without tails. I happen to have one. She's a Stumpy tailed cattledog. I hate when people assume I docked her.

[@laclara4020]

Cropping and docking can be highly beneficial and a breed standard in some breeds. But these exotic bullies and other shit? It aint excuseable, and not approved by akc or fci :(

[@hannanah8036]

​@@laclara4020It's only beneficial if the dog is going to be fighting. So guard dogs and livestock guardian dogs. If you're having the dog as a pet, chopping off bodyparts offers exactly 0 benefits

[@rottencandy2675]

@@hannanah8036 and hunting. But that one is mostly for tails I think.

[@jemmasimon7284]

It is so sad , these dogs usually die before 2. They are doing this to French bulldogs now. I rescue the cleft pallet puppies that they leave at the vet to die because they can’t make money with. This needs to be stopped.

[@AnimalLoving-24]

Thats so sweet you rescue the cleft palet babies. What do you do with them though? Are you able to get yhem operated on amd rehomed? I know cases where they have been operated on to trrat the cleft palrt and the operations tend yo have a really good outcome. I dont know how much it costs though

[@LG-jb9zs]

I feel so bad for these dogs. They can't breathe, they can barely eat, they can't run, but they're still dogs and they want to be loved. It should honestly be a crime to knowingly breed a dog that badly.

[@MikeStavola]

I went to public lands in Delaware a while ago, and found dozens of euthanized bulldogs and pitties in a mass grave. Like, maybe close to 100 puppies and young adult dogs. And they were dispached by a person I can only assume was a big bad from a horror movie, wuth a variety of methods that I can't repeat. So, I called the cops, and they just seemed upset that they didn't fill the grave.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Man I hope you called your local press. Legacy media can be useless but a lot of local newspaper or channel journalists would love to solve something like this. That's horrifying.

[@Mike-ry6hs]

That sounds horrifying to find:( i am so sorry you had to see that bro omg

[@kellygrubbs915]

Some “people” are straight up evil! 😞💔

[@flyingstonemon3564]

As someone who looks at history a lot, that's something I'd expect to read about a paleolithic conflict where the losers who are still alive wouldn't get the "grace" of the captivity ending invented later with agriculture and just be done like this and thrown like that. I feel sad for these poor dogs, they got an end similar to the unluckiests in wars. Hope you can still find sleep after seeing this.

[@npdbenrey]

theyre naming these dogs like male deodorant scents

[@faeriesorceress]

WHY ISN'T THIS ILLEGAL WHY ISN'T THIS ILLEGAL WHY ISN'T THIS ILLEGAL IT MAKES ME WANT TO CRY

[@MrVoyeurific]

It is in New Zealanded

[@mick6247]

@@MrVoyeurificactually unfortunately no it’s world wide and it’s popular in the US :(

[@anarcho-communist11]

@@mick6247 The US is run by complete sociopaths and sadists and their abusiveness trickles downward to poison our whole culture. There isn't enough outrage to make animal or child abuse stop.

[@ratoh1710]

Because this shit started with European nobility and just got normalized from there. They fucked up dogs for the sake of showing them off with absolutely no regard for the health of the dog. They're the people who started the "pedigree" which is essentially just racism and segregation but for dogs. Keeping the bloodlines "pure" and hating mixed breeds.

[@mckflurry]

There are other breeds that are just as bad. Bulldogs (English/ French), pugs, dachshund, Bassett hounds 😔 None of those dogs should be legal to breed.

[@formykalormie]

they look like frogs in the worst way possible

[@rabidrabbitshuggers]

I feel like in a better world, Congress would be doing something towards stopping this. It’s monstrous.

[@Tyu248]

Seeing the Dough Boy inbreeding flow chart was horrifying. It’s insane how prized inbreeding is in this circle, and that no one is out here questioning the ethics of the breeding process and numerous dogs being killed in the process to lead to a “production.” I feel bad that my ACD/Blue Heeler has her tail docked since she was a rescue. I don’t want to be judged for a choice I wouldn’t have made myself had her origins been different. Wish there was an easier way to distribute pets in shelters over the process of purchasing a designer pet.

[@smfreij]

My Aussie Shepard has a docked tail 😢 (shelter dog I always adopt) and it looks so weird! These animals would look so much better if we just let them alone.

[@genericname8727]

At least with an ACD you could tell people she’s part stumpy tail cattle dog.

[@MidoriTheAwesome]

Some aussies are born without tails. Not that it means your dog was or wasn't docked, just saying

[@woagnya]

I love stump tailed cattle dogs, and had one as a kid (rescue off the streets) but I’d NEVER dock any dog’s tail.

[@saged1513]

We have a declawed cat and I always tell people meeting her we adopted her like that because I would really hate anyone to think my family supports cutting the fingertips off of cats...

[@chrazzl]

Exotic bullies are so odd to me, like why do you want a mini hellhound that will live as long as a betta fish.

[@lhamagalopante6735]

Betta fish also live so little because of bad breeding :'), not even fish escape! Look up dragon scale, looks pretty, but causes blindness and tumors.

[@chrazzl]

@@lhamagalopante6735 Oh yes absolutely. I've owned bettas in the past and am currently cycling my tank prior to getting my next fish. It's absolutely awful how we've harmed such magnificent creatures and have turned them into decor, I've seen some awful tanks!

[@lhamagalopante6735]

@@chrazzl I was considerong getting another betta, given up once I couldn't find anything nearby that wasn't inbred to hell and back :')...Maybe a plakat or wild betta someday...

[@chrazzl]

@@lhamagalopante6735 Yes, I plan on getting a plakat from a responsible breeder online. I hope you can get one yourself soon!

[@julianswinton5355]

​​​​​​​​@@lhamagalopante6735If not betta chocolate guoramis are nice looking to. Espicialy the male of the species vaillanti (samurai gourami) is nicly coloured. Downside is they need small food items as they have tiny mouths compared to other gouramis.

[@KenzLovesMovies]

The idea of cloning lost pets, least of all for the purpose of breeding genetic monstrosities, is so insane and selfish and sad to me. Whether you're cloning a dog just because you can, or because you miss your pet so much -- why? You are spending so much money and resources to CLONE A DOG instead of, IDK, adopting an existing dog that needs a good home??? And also instead of just not playing Dr. Frankendog??

[@Tera_totally]

Ikr and its playing god with genetics

[@SorasShadow1]

and while these breeders clearly don't see dogs as anything more than a plaything to make money off of, it also just feels insulting to the pet's memory to make a clone of them, it's an attempt at outright replacement.

[@exotherm42]

...what bothers me most is that they act like it's the same dog when it literally isn't? My rescue girl is 11 now, she's very fit and healthy but I'm already petrified of losing her some day. And if that happened, how would cloning her help?! That's not my dog, not my friend who spend all those years with me, helped me through so many dark times and wound her way straight into the hearts of so many people around me. That dog was unique. Another dog might be of a similar phenotype or even identical genotype, but it would never be her again.

[@FrankAaron]

​@exotherm42 well that kinda gets into the (un)nature/nurture question, right? If you clone your dog while it's still alive and raised the clone in the same environment as your dog, you might significantly increase the odds of the clone adopting a similar personality and mannerisms from the source to go along with the identical looks. And maybe if you squint just right, you could trick yourself into believing that your dog never actually passed.

[@MossyOpossumDog]

Also, on top of that most cloning agencies don't just produce one puppy when they are cloning a dog. Usually it is a whole litter, then they pick the most "perfect" one and the rest are destroyed :( You can buy all the puppies, but most people only want one clone, so the rest get euth'ed because they can't be rehomed due to a contract. It's awful.

[@Tay-ri9vw]

I currently work in a vet clinic as a vet assistant. They all breathe SO much better with a breathing tube. As soon as they wake up, their breathing is so loud

[@JackyDomashinski]

One of the vets I work with says they let the brachy dogs stay on the breathing tubes for a bit just to give them some time to breathe with no issues. It’s so sad.

[@nukelius]

he's treating the dogs like weed strains

[@elisa-beary]

OMG this is so sad. Their shoulders look like half human/half dog. How do they even get them to look like this? This is heartbreaking as a dog lover.

[@user-account-not-found]

As a dog hater I really like it lol

[@mojuplays2154]

@@user-account-not-foundyikes!! Your gross

[@dorino9057]

@@user-account-not-found Yeah, I hate dogs too but I also dislike these evil breeders who are creating these deformed mutant

[@Pigeonfish_]

@@user-account-not-foundyou should maybe go to therapy. Or get help somehow. Cuz that’s not normal.

[@natalyst]

@@user-account-not-found grow up

[@-TVKiko-]

This man needs to be stopped this is supervillain behavior

[@ladylark10884]

this is some vinsmoke judge levels of evil 😭

[@Strawebbie]

This is the behavior a supervillain would be disgusted by

[@AverySadBear]

Puppy farms are also RIFE wit abuse. My family sheltered a great dane that was rescued from a puppy mill, the poor dog was scared of shovels. For a very obvious reason. She was was such a sweetie too.

[@SandyArmyCat2005]

I’m watching this and a news story pops up about a woman that was going to pick up her newly adopted dog at the shelter and it was mistakenly euthanized ONE hour before the pick up time! Our pup’s picture at the shelter was of her backed up in the cage scared to death! The very second she was adopted and got to touch the grass, she did the happiest dance!! She is now 8 and spoiled beyond rotten and she does this happy tippy toe prance when she gets her fresh ice water! Shelter animals are awesome!! I don’t know what we would do without our pet besties! And truly, shelter animals are the most loving being on the planet!!

[@peachesandcream22]

My 🐱 was a basement cat that was domestic but got kicked out by her first owner for a year. She was unsterilized, so she birthed kittens that were killed later. When I found her, by her behavior, I already understood she wasn't born on streets. I took her in with hope I could find her home. 2 years passed and I don't think she will go😂 She's a playful, attention-craving, beautiful kitty that deserves everything good in this world❤

[@kallikrose]

These poor dogs must have such a low quality of life. My heart goes out to them. Imagine being proud of owning a buisness that exploits, mutilates, and breeds these dogs. Such shameless brutality.

[@PixelPenguin87212]

This subject makes me too sad but glad you're talking about it, this should be super illegal

[@hdervish2497]

Those poor dogs. A neighbor of mine has a micro bully, and he's such a sweetie, but he looks so uncomfortable and he gets really upset that his sister, the husky, can stand up at the fence and get pets and he can't

[@naleksp]

this is just the plot to metal gear

[@somegal-89]

Solid Redrum vs Liquid Redrum?

[@NikiNorn]

​@@somegal-89The sons of Big Redrum! Reddestrum, if you will

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

​@@NikiNorn Revengeance has the only future engineered dog I love.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

a pimpy to surpass metal gear

[@MrVoyeurific]

You got all of his retriever genes and I got his pug genes

[@lilhedgehog8576]

1:39 I hate that he uses the word “luxury” to describe the dog. Dogs aren’t luxury items. They’re not a freaking Gucci handbag. They’re living creatures and they shouldn’t be used to flex your “luxurious” lifestyle. I hate the way people flex their dogs, the same way they flex inanimate objects.

[@tiskky7385]

this is just beyond depressing.

[@skreppeffedup]

humans are so ew too much of the time

[@SuperNicktendo]

This is so sad. Most dog breeders are like this. Treating dogs like an item instead of an animal. When I got my pit bull Bowser as a puppy I refused to crop his ears and dock his tail. I get compliments of his ears all the time. He just turned 17 and I'm so glad I didn't mutilate him for aesthetic.

[@greenginger6668]

Not just dog breeders… I’m a reptile owner and exotic animal breeders are just as awful imo. All of my pets are rescued in some form or fashion but I do support the few ethical breeders out there but unfortunately ethical breeding just isn’t as profitable.

[@mightymeatymech]

there's a special place in heaven for people like you :) pits are absolutely beautiful little sweet hearts, they deserve to be pampered and loved, not mutilated and inbred. he gets to live his whole life without ever knowing that unnecessary pain, thanks to you :) edit- bowser is the absolute cutest name too, i just know he's a lil cute bean :3

[@Rowan-gt3ik]

I loved that you didn't crop or dock your pup ❤ also, bowser is such a good name for a pittie, much love and treats to him

[@smidgen]

rotties, dobermans and pitbulls all look cuter natural, its so sad most breeders will crop their tails or ears before they're even offered for sale :(

[@TakkuriHimare]

The cropping and docking on pits came from when they were bred as fighting dogs so they’d last longer and not be done in by a bite to a sensitive area. For guard breeds like Dobermans it’s traditionally done as a counter to humans trying to grab the dogs and pull them off of themselves if attacked by one. It’s not really necessary in pet homes for obvious reasons, though some breeds with long tails like dobies can get “happy tail” where they cause traumatic damage to their tails by literally wagging too hard too close to a wall and not being able to make themselves stop when it hurts. Breeds prone to happy tail will often be docked while they’re puppies because it’s a less dangerous surgery and the dogs adapt much better than if they have to have them amputated later, but I’m not generally a fan. One of my rescue mutts looks like she had happy tail when she was younger since her tail is a little crooked and there’s a big lump in the middle like the bones were broken and healed improperly. I’m glad she got to keep her tail, but she still hits obstacles with it VERY hard and I always worry she’s going to hurt it again. Anyway just came to say there are a lot of good dog breeders out there, but unfortunately they get drowned out by all the backyard breeders producing genetic nightmares and following “trendy” designer mutts like doodles and merles. I’ve always got shelter/foster dogs so I don’t see myself going to a breeder unless I need a good working breed, but I will say since my dogs came out of bad situations they are a lot harder than a mentally sound pup would be. I can see mine being a lot for a first time owner to deal with, and unfortunately shelters are so desperate these days they often can omit certain behavioral details.

[@ryanatkinson2978]

Mr. Miyagi's son meeting a baby clone of his father has to be one of the most fucked up things ever lmao

[@ezraelliott8905]

This is why we need to adopt OR shop responsibly. We need to be supporting breeders who beed IN standard dogs who have a purpose, who are genetically stable and predictable, functional, and dogs that are an ACTUAL breed. If you don’t want to support an ethical breeder then get a shelter dog!! We don’t need more of those toads running around istg 😭😭

[@angela_tarantulas]

100% agree 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@larissabrglum3856]

I think many people don't realize just how varied dog breeding is. It encompasses everything from profit-driven cruelty to the responsible continuation of a breed. The good ones aren't in it to get rich; they aim to create healthy, good-tempered dogs because they want to help a breed be the best it can be.

[@Tailionis]

Be very careful when shopping. Make sure the breeder has a history behind them. Puppy mill breeders are getting sneaky. They will even bring a fake dog pretending it to be the mom.

[@vyvisabastard]

@@larissabrglum3856my aunt and uncle were show breeders and bred pugs specifically. their dogs were very healthly (for show pugs at least) and were very protective of their dogs. you dont win shows with unhealthy dogs, and their dogs were champion line pugs who won shows internationally. if you didnt meet their standards you were not getting one of their dogs. my uncle unfortunately passed away last year so my aunt no longer breeds them. its up to other people to learn what is a healthy dog and what is unhealthy. and if you want a more “ethically” bred dog, look into working dog breeders. but be aware their energy and mental needs will be more demanding because they are bred to work, not really to be pets.

[@MajiggerRose]

Also be careful with shelter dogs too. I know shelters aren't doing it to be greedy or malicious (unlike a few unreputable rescues). but they'll lie about breeds and move dogs around to adopt out who have bite records or killed someone's pet.

[@YochevedDesigns]

Wolves everywhere are saying "Dang, you're making Chihuahuas look reasonable." Watching this with my rescue dog and two rescue feral cats. They give me as much love and satisfaction as any fancy pants genetic frankenpet.

[@flyingstonemon3564]

Og chihuahuas were fine, but people bred them to be... Well. The ones we know today. Poor things.

[@Sleepy_Sunshine]

@@flyingstonemon3564 my mom has a chihuahua that's a bit mixed, mostly just looks like a brown chihuahua, but he's really healthy and looks pretty normal, actually everyone in my family except me has a small dog that's easily associated with a breed or two that's known to be overbred and inbred, my sister has a teacup yorkie, a teacup chihuahua and yorkie mix that someone got her as a gift, she was from a puppy mill, and she didn't ask for the dog, but she loves her now, even if she would never get another dog like hershe's got terrible skin issues my sisters always treating, my dad has purebred a minpin that he got as a gift because the family who bred them felt bad that his best friend died, he was the runt with the least "desireable" features, his ears never got pinned or whatever, still floppy, and i don't have a dog, i have a cat, who is recognizable as a breed, but not a well known and overbred and inbred breed, also he's a mix fs, i got him from a shelter so essentially my entire family has healthy dogs but can see the clear issues in the commercialization of breeds, the inbreeding, and all that, you're completely right, poor things, just look at pugs 100 years ago vs today another thing i want to say about the chihuahua's looking fucked up, the ones that look fucked up are mostly apple heads, with bug eyes and tiny muzzles, deer heads are pretty normal looking

[@th4t1kand1k1d.]

@@flyingstonemon3564ikr.. especially when they annoy them so they're aggressive just for the KZbin likes. disgusting.

[@flyingstonemon3564]

@@th4t1kand1k1d. Yeah! They're small and humans are big, of course everything is scary, so taunting or scaring them will yearn results fast too, It's weird to poke the stick at the bear and be surprised the animal dislikes It...

[@CMYKITSUNE]

they look like if you asked a garage tattoo artist to tattoo a bulldog on you

[@KingNerdius]

Absolutely gross, this should be an animal rights violation

[@wishfuldorian]

Could these people just sell drugs or something. Holy shit

[@hater9irl]

Fr lol.

[@rattyeely]

They're probably doing that too

[@madfrenchgirl1634]

The only people who buy these dog are people who don't like dogs, how can you enjoy your dog if he can't even walk or breath, and you pay so much to have fucked up dog that you will watch suffer for the rest of his life

[@Hulvian]

I think they’re turning these dogs back into dimetrodons with those splayed legs 😭

[@Lichen8404]

Even Dimetrodon had legs straight under it 😭 they're turning them into geckos

[@evangering1612]

I saw a video yesterday of a backyard breeder (who is NOT a veterinarian) who performed a “kitchen table C-section” on one of his dogs :( it was fucking awful like there was no way that she was properly sedated or that his technique was sterile or safe and also the fact that so many breeder dogs need C-sections shows how unnatural they are

[@Bikelaned]

I'M SORRY THEY PERFORMED A WHAT???

[@Those_Mal_Working_Dogs]

I saw that too, it's absolutely heartbreaking.

[@greenginger6668]

I hate that this doesn’t surprise me

[@Thatonefangir1YT]

How fucking horrible. I can’t imagine any person inflicting this much excruciating pain on a dog

[@Shoulderpads-mcgee]

How is that not some kind of animal abuse violation???

[@Neveko]

These people deserve jail time. I literally do not care if people "want" these dogs. There is no way they don't get treated like designer purses at the end of the day

[@Jamlord2061]

if an animal is physically unable be born naturally they should not exist

[@skreppeffedup]

no but why would anyone see some creature like that and want it?

[@shibafox]

They called it the micro bully movement...but their dogs aren't doing much moving

[@sukiitheartist]

I used to work for a vet, only quit this year after having a baby, and we had a 9 week “pocket bully” come in with absolute horrible skin issues. The owners were COMPLETELY unprepared for the cost of care that poor baby was gonna entail. It kills me seeing backyard breeders making these generic nightmares.

[@Deathbecomesme3]

When Tesla said man made horrors beyond our comprehension I thought he was talking about pugs. I was CLEARLY mistaken. He was definitely talking about these abominations that look like they crawled out of a Clan Moulder breeding pit.

[@msthang5122]

These breeders are gross. This should be illegal.

[@lakegroce685]

As someone who works with dogs, let me just say this to future first time dog owners: Do not get a dog for aesthetic reasons. You will not have a fun time raising it. If you’re going to get a specific breed, do your research. Not just a single google search, take your time to make sure this is the breed you want and can handle. Ask your breeder for the medical information about both puppies parents. If there is a hereditary condition, you need to know right away so you can be prepared to deal with it. If you’re going to get a dog with a bunch of obvious physical deformities, be prepared to pay for it for the rest of the dogs life. These are living creatures that need someone who is willing to do everything they can to ensure they live a long and healthy life( as long as these inbreed dogs can anyway)If you are not willing to do that, then don’t get a dog.

[@Schmidty130]

This 100%! People don’t do enough research for any dog they get usually, rescue or when going to a breeder. It’s how we end up with so many dogs in shelters. These “exotic” breeders make money cause they know people won’t do the research and buy the dog cause it looks cute.

[@flammable7961]

@@Schmidty130… ”cute”… god these people are fucked in the head

[@lakegroce685]

I forgot to add this as a professional bather: get your dog acclimated to bathing when they are young. Especially if you have a long haired breed that needs haircuts. I cannot tell you how many older dogs I get who have never had a bath in their life. Sometimes they’re good and other times they are so anxious and scared, they are fighting and biting everything. I’ve had dogs freak out with just water being sprayed on them.

[@Anonymousaggro]

As somebody who has two corgis, I really wish people would do this more. See so many people get high energy working or herding dogs based off of their looks alone and end up giving them up because they didn't do the research and can't handle their energy.

[@OncleClara]

I see so many people on Reddit in the dog (and cat) subs that want a specific breed because of its looks but don’t want to learn anything about the breed characteristics. For eg they’ll post in the Samoyed subreddit about how cute they are but don’t want the dog to be too high energy and high maintenance. Like a Samoyed is one of the highest maintenance dogs! They’re super high energy, require lots of training and walking, and need a lot of grooming. Or they want a British Shorthair cat that loves snuggles but only in a specific colour, completely ignoring that BSH’s are known for being more aloof. They’ll sit happily next to you, enjoy being stroked, and follow you about but they’re not lap cats. People don’t want a pet with its own personality and quirks - they want a toy or an accessory. It’s so sad. 😢

[@_Kittensworth]

Those poor things ugh. And keep in mind that "pocket bullies" were initially made from game-bred pit bulls, so they retain the horrible temperament of dogs that were bred for blood sports. But in a tiny deformed body.

[@lb540]

Well at least they can't kill a healthy adult. So better these monstrosities than actual game dogs.

[@justme6664]

What shit you speak 😂 'horrible temperment' 😂

[@justme6664]

What shit you speak 😂 Pocket Bullies dont have a 'horrible temperment' misinformed tool bag you are 😂

[@theDobby]

Dogs like these, and their ridiculous owners just make me furious. Like what even?!? I see SO many on instragram because, you know, I just CANNOOT not comment on this animal abuse. Seriously. Are there no laws that can stop these guys? Like they all are so ridiculous, wannabe gangsters that hype eachother up. They dont give a shit about their dogs, just money and "fame" (???).... So sad. Poor dogs...!

[@gaslightGatekeepGirlboss044]

I can’t stop thinking that they’re talking about high school bullies

[@jacsickels7597]

that's just beyond cruel... how can you breed a dog like that, knowing how much they will suffer. no excuse. there are people out there actively trying to reverse these things by breeding the good traits *back* into animals, and then there are these assholes. How is this legal???

[@non-threateningcheese4218]

My mom was a groomer for a breeder. The conditions were horrible. up to 4 dogs in tiny kennels, all with diseases, missing teeth, and damaged tracheas. the breeder was a jehovas witness and went on her mission trip, dumping all the dogs on her. my mother loves dogs with all her heart, so she did her best to take care of them. it wasn't possible. my mom did her very hardest to make sure they got enough exercise, playtime, love, baths, food and water. but there just wasn't enough resources. you must dedicate ALL your time to take care of them, and still it won't ever be enough for the animals. It's very expensive and time consuming to take care of a ton of dogs even on a basic level, and sales are few and far between when you don't sell to other breeders (my mom wanted to take care of them and sell them to real homes). even if you have the most innocent and righteous intentions, it just isn't possible to breed ethically. pups deserve more.

[@Corgisaurus-Rex]

Ethical breeders cover that cost by selling their dogs for a lot and dedicating most of their time to those dogs. They also only keep a few at a time and try not to overwhelm themselves. Someone who had dogs dumped on them is not a 1-to-1 comparison for a breeder who has done their research, made preparations, and even completed an apprenticeship under another, more experienced breeder.

[@dx.feelgood5825]

@@Corgisaurus-RexI’ve also heard of ethical breeders training their puppies. The guy we got our bully from had the puppies house trained, taught them various tricks, made sure they could sleep in a kennel and be comfortable, etc. he also wouldn’t sell them until they were a couple months old and didn’t need their mama anymore and could handle themselves. They were very affectionate and not afraid of people at all either. Very healthy dogs. Unfortunately, extremely rare thing in the world of dog breeders.

[@FukaiKokoro]

It's totally possible to breed ethically. Ethical breeders have contracts that you call and return the dog to them before the shelter. There's also a breeder in Europe who's trying to lengthen the snout of Frenchies. We need the good breeders in the world

[@larkinpaul]

Bro, I'ma x vet tech myself and i can still hear the bully puppies crying while getting their tails clipped. Shits wild.

[@aceofspades5109]

They aren’t given sedatives or anesthesia???

[@larkinpaul]

@@aceofspades5109 nope, when I mentioned this to the vet he said " They don't feel pain like we do" which was obviously some b.s.

[@flammable7961]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@larkinpaulthat’s a straight up lie, what a horrible vet

[@larkinpaul]

@@flammable7961 yup, he was an asshole in every way.

[@angelikaskoroszyn8495]

@larkinpaul He's the kind of guy who would claim that babies feel no pain if he lived a century ago

[@psychicsara]

The back and joint issues for these poor dogs is probably insane. Poor babies.

[@DKF_oli]

8 month life, constant pain.

[@psychicsara]

@@DKF_oliit’s so sad. Also the people purchasing these dogs are just as stupid.

[@SigmaAirplaneBalls]

It disgusts me how they call them products/ "produced" they're still living beings who are in a lot of pain... (just look at their eyes 18:54 this poor dog is in pain..) this is horrific.. how is this "breed" not banned? this is what capitalism does when profit is set above the wellbeing living creatures...

[@milessolomon4864]

If these guys want "luxury," can they just buy a LV bag or something and not make animals suffer?

[@Agentekd]

They talk about dogs like their fucking weed strains!! It’s fucked

[@leisewri]

I'd like to know how they find vets to work with them, assuming they are responsible enough to get their dog's vet care

[@communistamanda]

our teaching hospital recently fired an OB/GYN because she was doing unauthorized pelvic surgeries for pitbulls. so sometimes, not even a vet lmao (edit: also her license got taken away so shes not a doctor either 💀)

[@kendraanderson4556]

Questionably ethical reproductive vets but honestly most of them just dont get care. At home c sections (often with black market drugs else theyre stolen for sure) are a horrific reality. Heard from a coworker one ended up in the ER closed with yarn.

[@Corgisaurus-Rex]

It may depend on the vet. For general care, a vet more than likely isn't going to turn the dog away because of the breed (there may be exceptions with "aggressive" breeds). If the dog needs care, they'll do what they can. However, for breeding them, they could be doing their own shady practices. Wouldn't be surprising. Some people dock tails and crop ears at home with no medical training, so doing anything else wouldn't surprise me.

[@Teddy-hp9zy]

I don’t really believe in hell but I hope there’s somewhere special for people that torture animals like this for money. This is so disgusting. Capitalism is sickening

[@flyingstonemon3564]

Finally someone talks about this! I remember months ago when It first made a mark on forums and how everyone marveled in horror witnessing facebook and Instagram bully breeders... It's the most evil pyramid scheme I've seen yet, genuinely horrifying and cruel. The sheer amount of pain these dogs must be in is insane. I can't believe this is legal. Between the genetic makeup being more bottlenecked than ptolemaic egypt royals and the ear cutting... The back problems for the dogs... There's so much to cover It's a whole boat of evil. Good luck!

[@cloudy_jewels]

genuinely so sad what we have done to the animals on this planet

[@pjyoung191]

Fun fact, I own two rescue frenchies who were originally bought by guys like this who were trying to start their own puppy farming operation (and failed miserably, lmao). Supposedly my dogs carry genes for rare colours, which should tell you what their motives were. Fortunately they're spayed now so they'll never have to go through all that bullshit. Bulldogs/pitbulls/etc are wonderful but please don't support jackasses like these guys, you're just lining their pockets so they can keep churning out dogs for profit.

[@pastelduskull]

As someone who's worked with dogs for several years, the horrors that breeders have created make me want to quit altogether. Creating the unhealthiest dogs possible for thousands of dollars when there are thousands of dogs in shelters is so heartbreaking to think about. It is actually becoming difficult to deal with mentally. I wish more people would shame breeders, especially ones like this. This is downright cruel.

[@canidpunk]

ty for bringing awareness to this monstrosity of a "breed"

[@frybit4104]

Why can’t they sell drugs or handbags like normal people

[@joesjoes20]

Now do the reptile hobby next! Most breeders hide inbreeding behind the term "Line Breeding".

[@CommanderWiggins]

Oh my god yes, reptile breeders are just wild. All about breeding new morphs and giving them cool names while not caring about the actual health of the animals. (Spider Ball Pythons, anyone?) Morphs Market truly makes my skin crawl sometimes. I can't own reptiles in my current situation but when I do, I'll probably stick to mostly wild types.

[@shiruvuiaanimak1485]

Inbreeding in reptiles is a lot different than mammals, it takes many more generations to create any defects. You can inbreed quite a few times with no effects.

[@shiruvuiaanimak1485]

And all the unhealthy reptiles (spider ball pythons, scaless snakes, enigma leopard geckos) are gene mutations that do not require any inbreeding to occur and are not line bred

[@TheBanditBull]

@@CommanderWiggins As someone who was in the reptile keeper-hobby and was in contact with quite a few breeders.. don't even get into the hobby is my best advice. If you really want to though, there are so many shelters and sanctuaries with reptiles.. adopt one. The reptile keeping hobby is insanely cruel and the majority of these animals are handled as a "nice to have" item, stuffed into boxes or bare minimum terrariums.. It is insane, so please do yourself and the animals a favor and don't support it further. I regret that I have been a part of it on the regular. If I ever get reptiles again in the future (I have two snakes and it will never be more than that), they will be rescues only.

[@CommanderWiggins]

@@TheBanditBull If I do end up getting reptiles someday I'm going to be incredibly careful where I get them from. Most likely rescues/rehomes, but if I did go to a breeder I'd be darn sure it was someone who actually cares about their animals. And I'd make sure that my animals had amazing enclosures and the best care possible.

[@Alwayssjess]

They’re slowly morphing into bull frogs

[@Mi-Mi-Michelle]

How is this not a crime? Disgusting

[@SuneOli4]

Honestly shame on the vets that provide repro services to these breeders

[@rustyhowe3907]

I never thought OF would have more integrity...man rich people are fuzzed up.

[@abraker1317]

I got my dog off Craigslist for $100 and she will 100% outlive all of these poor cursed little goblins.