INTJs - The Path Forgers

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[@hamzailarzeg]

Things become extremely tragic when INTJs lose their personal motivations.

[@blackoceancreativeuniverse]

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[@sanskrutijaiswal2816]

For sure.

[@blackoceancreativeuniverse]

@@sanskrutijaiswal2816 glad you see the connection.

[@wouldntyouliketoknowweathe19]

*Me a depressed INTJ* Yeah I would know...

[@blackoceancreativeuniverse]

@@wouldntyouliketoknowweathe19 ty

[@brinnet]

This is one of the most accurate descriptions I've found of myself as an INTJ. I find that so many people understand INTJs to be emotionless, efficient machines, but that completely misses the deeply-held values that INTJs have. These values drive what we do and help us have the motivation (or repeatedly find the energy) to pursue our goals over long periods of time and through multiple failures." Thank you for sharing such a human and realistic take on INTJs :)

[@lovewho]

Thank you for this comment, I'm really glad that you enjoyed the video and got something different from it than the usual descriptions. I’m on the LoveWho Discord server most days, feel free to join and find me (and other people interested in personality types) on there if you want to chat! I think you might like it on there, feel free to give me a message if you do. The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@petyreyvind9963]

I agree, this is much more accurate than most depictions of INTJ, and it also helps that the video shows that we ARE human.

[@chantzukit681]

ENFP stanning this INTJ's observation so hard :') 🌻

[@meghnadeepak4283]

I'm an infj and my father is an intj. He is a very hard working man, able to master anything with ease if he sets his mind to it. He is also very empathetic and he has taught me to approach life with courage and resilience. I have a lot to learn from him.

[@tiisetsomahlatji57]

We are the same🧙‍♂️☺

[@ashuranero5721]

Uhm INTJs aren't really empathetic at all, since we have Fe Trickster. Did you mean sympathetic?

[@meghnadeepak4283]

@@ashuranero5721 yes you are right he is sympathetic, I just meant to say that he cares a lot about other people's feelings contrary to the stereotypes

[@ashuranero5721]

@@meghnadeepak4283 That might be Fe Trickster

[@loox758]

@@ashuranero5721 That's the opposite. We have Fi child, we empathize with people (cognitive empathy) but it's very hard for us to sympathize (affective empathy)

[@emilyjh75]

My BFF is INTJ, and this is accurate. She has a drive that is frankly impressive, but her major weakness is Se. She avoids it so much so that she occasionally gets smacked in the face with reality so hard that it derails her temporarily. I'm ISTP, so I consider it my job to remind her that Se exists, and that she'd better pay attention to it. But between her intuition and drive, and my physical skill and confidence, we are a pretty hardcore team.

[@MrKillswitch88]

Reality is overrated but balance is key otherwise people just break down and the suicide rates just go up.

[@aidanhunter6195]

Lol I feel this

[@KuhiChr]

@@MrKillswitch88 Yes, but it's not so tragic, it's just life. INTJ's are also only the guides for the others, no biggies. Some survive, some not...

[@Xmenjade]

the obsessive hunt of finding the perfect job is something i guess we can all relate to as intjs

[@TheConsideredMan]

The first thing you really ought to consider, is creating your own work and job. Working for a 3rd party as an INTJ, is a recipe for disaster. I am an INTJ, and found that working for myself was the only way forward. I did it successfully for 30 + years and retired happily at 50...working for others and making money for them rather than yourself is NOT the smart move!!

[@username-bc8gr]

@c e s as an intj too, i ended up finding it.

[@outtastock922]

find the perfect job

[@dr.jekyll5234]

whatever job u get works its whatever

[@TheConsideredMan]

@@dr.jekyll5234 Really?

[@BobVisMo]

I like how all the thumbnails for intjs are just black and white.. as expected from an intp 🙄

[@IsmoYliviiri]

I am INTJ, and everything really is about planning. There are lots of things I am interested and that's why I am reading a lot. My day is planned and I cycle my interests into 3 hour periods throughout the day to make it easier for me to study and practice each one. My social skills are poor, and during a pandemic, I can easily be up to a month without seeing other people. Goals are always visions that I want to make, they come true when enough knowledge has been acquired and enough skill has been acquired through doing and failure. And why do I do and keep learning? It is a question I been asked for myself too and answer is always: Because I have to, I cant get peace of mind if I haven´t done what my dream, goal or visions are showing. Thats why its difficult to stop until work has done.

[@lovewho]

Great comment! If you haven’t already please check out our Discord server, I’m on there most days, we have channels specifically for each type on there as well as many others - people would definitely be curious to hear what books an INTJ is into in our book recommendations channel! The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@alaksandra1979]

Contingency plans, we can never have enough of those.

[@lovewho]

Amen to that ~ Nathan

[@AustinPowerz-bn5ry]

As an evolution to the notion of contingency plans, which might be time and energy consuming to establish, I often find myself re-orienting around whether or not I am comfortable with the worst case scenario. If no, then more planning. If yes, rigging the game achieved!

[@dasXperiment]

Failing to plan is planning to fail -- INTJ

[@dreytukaji7871]

*shares instantly to my intj friend*

[@jacobandersen6075]

Literally same.

[@unrealnews]

Same here as well. What’s wrong with us. Wait… are all of us INFPs?

[@dreytukaji7871]

erm I'm an INTP but ig we both click well with INTJs

[@jameshansen7108]

Yeah, I relate to it a lot, the sort of 'Pioneer'/'Path forger' mindest as an INTJ. It seems to be something along the lines of: 'If I cannot find what I am looking for in the world, then I will make it happen myself.' Or, finding a solution to a problem that I have a passionate desire to solve, or have noticed that the current solution is ineffective and can be improved upon. For me, an ineffective solution is almost just as bad as the problem.

[@lovewho]

Great comment! I love that notion of an ineffective solution being as bad as the problem itself, I would completely agree with that sentiment.If you haven’t already please check out our Discord server, I’m on there most days, we have channels specifically for each type on there as well as many others! The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@infdox9051]

Eg, the vagssine

[@infdox9051]

@@lovewho That's what people did with the moronovirus. Imagine being an INTJ scientist, a real expert who had not sold out.

[@jayce0015]

Agree

[@bradleyj7801]

INTJ here: Ready to go play some games at the carnival with friends, just need to whip out my clipboard first and do some cost/benefit analysis to optimize stuffed animal return per dollar, everybody else go have fun in the meanwhile

[@blackoceancreativeuniverse]

The old SAR/$ ratio? Clearly you're the fun one in your crew!

[@aidanhunter6195]

That's a lot of Si for an INTJ... are you sure that you aren't ISTJ? As an INTJ numbers are pretty boring, it's more about the theoretical and future than it is facts and data.

[@blackoceancreativeuniverse]

@@aidanhunter6195 Go easy on Bradley J.... he's trying to master "adulting".

[@bradleyj7801]

@@aidanhunter6195 Aidan, keen observation and I believe you must be an Si dom to take my post at 100% face value when in actuality it was an abstract and condensed version that Ni doms like myself struggle to fully encapsulate into words, but I can further opine on my post and contrast with an ISTJ while giving a fuller, still unclear INTJ-type expounding of the original post: 1) INTJ Ni Dom - cost benefit analysis includes both qualitative and quantitative measures, I would agree ISTJ would be more interested in crunching the numbers to get to the absolute numerical return value to concretely get the "correct" answer, however INTJ would probably be more inclined to get sidetracked as their perspective may change on how they want to engage with the games, and could start with the idea that they want the biggest prize and as they start to figure that out in the process think about having to lug the prize around, is the game fun? is the game challenging? bottom line, what is the goal or perspective that provides the biggest reward (materially/emotionally, etc) for example win the biggest prize or be able to brag about "x" accomplishment, or combination of both (Fi tertiary plays into the personalization of the goal) 2) INTJ Se Inferior vs ISTJ Ne Inferior - INTJ would be less inclined to engage in the games initially (Se inferior) because they would need to assess from a distance a myriad of factors for each game to formulate a goal (Ni dom) as discussed in the prior point and plan (Te aux) without risking any manipulation of the environment which could yield dirty data otherwise, plus prematurely engaging in a game could trigger Fi tertiary too much which could lead to over exertion of emotion and wasted time and money playing the first game on tilt or hyperfocus on just that game and losing out on the bigger more meaningful goal that could be formulated. I believe because ISTJ's have Ne inferior and Si dom, they would probably stick to a Si dom-like concrete/tangible goal of crunching numbers to get a prize which would make exploring the environment with Ne inferior easier knowing they only need to consider limited factors to get to the bottom line and more easily filter out games with small prizes whereas the INTJ like myself is thinking of why every prize and every aspect of every game exists, it's all there for a reason and there's bound to be opportunities where the house loses somewhere at some game, and then when I figure it out, I probably don't play anything in the end because I just "won" without spending a dollar and still have something to brag about that nobody cares about or appreciates except myself, then my unused Se is restless and ready to be engaged by going to the big roller coaster with everybody after they are done with games, but I guess that depends on line size, is the ride included with park admission, is.......

[@peterbellinger3387]

@@bradleyj7801, just ignore them. They have a poor understanding of the functions anyway if they’re making comments like that. Great response though! Very thorough!

[@thefreshestslice4105]

You today won't have to live with the decisions you make, positive or negative. You won't even be there to enjoy it. But someone will, probably you tomorrow, and so you strive forward to make tomorrow a little easier. Either for yourself or the people you care about.

[@streetsmartswing]

INTJ here. In every season of my life, I've tended to see through things others simply see, which has helped me with entrepreneurial endeavors. Unfortunately, not having a goal is one of the most paralyzing feelings, focusing me to live solely in the moment; and if I'm honest, I end up enjoying it - sometimes.

[@omc2563]

INFP with INTJ partner - clicks quickly! Yup, sounds familiar, especially the focused drive motivated by ethics.

[@PVolkovX]

Many of INTJ’s qualities you mention in the video are highlighted in strategic board games: learning rules, understanding the system’s interactions and planning ahead to reach the goal all appeal strongly to INTJs. As one, I found myself winning very often in my first play of a new board game, ahead of other newcomers or even more experienced players. My guess is that is because of the particular INTJ insight and drive to succeed.

[@lovewho]

I agree wholeheartedly with this, board games are like a microcosm of real-life games too and those principles can be applied to real life, obviously with adjustments. If you haven’t already please check out our Discord server, I’m on there most days, we have channels specifically for each type on there as well as many others! We also have a chess channel on there... the link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@aidanhunter6195]

The problem with many bored games is they only supply one way to win, it's hard to strategize and find a unique way to catch your opponents off guard. Except chess. Lol

[@KuhiChr]

Try Go-game

[@plk9190]

I always win in monopoly. No one wants to play with me anymore. =[

[@nunyabiznes33]

@@KuhiChr I tried Go on mobile and can't even win on the small board huhu. Guess I'm too stupid for it.

[@NanulSavage]

Quite accurate. There are no problems that don’t have solutions, it’s a matter of finding them. Everything is possible. I may plan in my head for a while until I see the full vision of the project, but the second I start anything outside of my head, things get done extremely fast, with efficiency and high quality. And also accurate that what I do has to fit into my values. I have to care and be passionate about the subject matter, otherwise I’ll go a different direction. I’ve never had a job for the sake of having a job. After assessing the scene, I’d politely insult everyone for their lack of competence and quit.

[@aprilw2287]

I wish I could be a little more like an INTJ sometimes. Motivation/drive is hard for me, but I'm always working on it. -INFP

[@astridtheearthling]

Determination is key and the will to move forward no matter what life throws at you is also key.

[@grazynawolska8160]

Agree. I often say "shoving things forward is what I do". I work now at a large organization with archaic systems. I'm dogged about making improvements! Lots of people don't want to... and get in the way. The amount of presentations I have to do to kill 1 piece of paper (a form) which slows a process is hilarious! Higher and higher levels of approvals needed! So I just laugh it off and shove it forward...1 cm at a time lol. I'd say 1 inch...but that's too much of a progress. Don't care. Stupid piece of paper is creating extra work and is pointless! Slows things down! Prevents work from happening! I must kill it ....Fi motivation to improve process and satisfaction for others. So my next ridiculous presentation why this piece of paper must die is on Tuesday.... and I will be there ready, 9am sharp!

[@TheGreatCalsby]

The goal chasing is right. Personally, I make decisions informed by compromise for goals I really care about, but I rely on asking lots of other people to determine if i'm processing a situation correctly. I do spend a lot of time in my head, so the outside perspective helps keep me sane and realistic!

[@sashimi1519]

Dear INTJs, I think you guys are insanely cool. I look forwards to meeting one of you. :D Sincerely, An INFJ

[@heathergrahame9647]

Yes, it has turned out that I am a path forger. And, yes, the path has to be one that motivates me strongly emotionally and aligns with my values. But .... I'm good at lots of things and I could use my talents and skills in a variety of different areas, so for a long time I just sort of meandered along, dabbling in this or that. Sometimes I'd get excited about some idea and I'd start pursuing it, but then I would discover that the idea wasn't important enough for me to do the necessary sensory stuff (which feels like walking through mud). I've come to realise that every dream involves walking through mud but, if the dream is really, really important, I'm willing to keep going and pursue it until the dream is made an earthly reality. And I have to accept that, because my aspirations are huge and futuristic, then it's highly likely they're going to take years or decades to manifest. If the dream is important, I can and will do the sensory stuff (like calling people on the phone - urgh) but I just do it slower than most. It might take me a week before I'm ready to make the call that needs to be made. If I could give some good advice to other INTJs, it would be don't pressure yourself to be good at the senate stuff or to do it quickly. There's no hurry. Give yourself many breaks from the sensate world and do whatever you need to do to recharge.

[@fierybookworm]

Interesting! My INTJ doesn't really focus on the future or career drive. If anything I call him a hoarder of knowledge 🤔 his progress is very gradual. You hit the nail on the head that he is far more driven by emotion than people give him credit for. 🥰

[@lovewho]

It's definitely a big motivator for them and it's interesting that it isn't spoken about that much! ~ Nathan

[@fierybookworm]

@@lovewho Indeed! In fact his co-workers affectionately call him the "Office Robot/ Computer" and say beep boop and whatnot. ☺️ I have been called his "romance update" 🤣 (for an ENFP, the highest compliment!)

[@T7nskie]

Our core values and principles influence and motivate our actions, decisions, behaviour and goals. True!

[@Intuitioncalling]

As an INTJ, this is how I believe my brains works 1. My Ni is always running in the background. It's like the very air I breathe in. I might be looking straight at you and still wouldn't see you because I'd be so caught up in my head. 2. I deploy Te mainly whenever I try to make sense of the crazy whacky concepts and ideas my Ni synthesises in the background or whenever I've to interact with the external world. That's how I can plan effectively and interact with the external information in a logical way. 3. When I was young I'd preferably use my third function i.e. Fi. I still feel more comfortable with this function more than Te because of it being an introverted function as well. That's why everything I do, it's usually done with a fiery passion. I also always refer each decision my Ni and Te make collectively with my Fi and that's what allows my external interactions the much needed moral compass. I don't like to make my Fi surface but behind the doors it's very important for to keep it happy. 4. I don't believe on the physical reality that we inhabit because I can never get to observe it tangibly due to my inferior Se. I'd drive to and from work everyday without noticing anything on and around the road. Often when i need escape from the constant intuitive processes, I'd smoke weed, drink and over eat. I can also go to the other extreme and wouldn't eat anything proper for days. My Se always comes in extreme fluctuations.

[@virginiagwen6523]

This video is brilliant, just like all your other videos. I already knew these things about myself. I know that all I need is motivation and reason, a passion, and as long as I set my sights on something, I will achieve it. It is the truth, a fact which I know about myself. However, I have lost this motivation. Recently I have been reconsidering my life philosophy, re-thinking about everything. And I have changed my philosophy completely. I had to erase a lot of what I used to value and believe in. As a result, I'm trying to form my new philosophy, one that makes more sense. In the process, past motivations no longer seem that important. And I don't really know what is important anymore. To say the least, it is this stage in my life, the stage of rebuilding morals, beliefs and values, that is truly paralyzing. I just need a lot of time to think. But this never happens because of life requirements so I'm still... drifting, if that makes sense. It feels like as though I'm lost. I'm hoping to take the next holidays to sort this out and get back to who I used to be, but with better core values.

[@ADEL-ISLAM]

Im interested How you're doing now after 2 years? Bcz i have a similar situation

[@claracatlady9844]

INTJ here: so I was three when I decided on my career path. Guess what I’m going to go study in university starting in September. Jup same thing I always wanted to do, which by the way is Fashion Design. The perfect combination of creative thinking, problem solving, creating and flawless execution

[@disgustof-riley8338]

Same here! I've wanted to teach elementary school since I was 5, and that's exactly where I'm headed now!

[@khytron06]

I've wanted to be an astronaut ever since I was a child! But I'm 15 now and decided that my career is gonna be programmers. I still don't know whether I'm an INTJ or INTP even though I've been studying personality types for months.

[@llezmollah217]

I was only 5 when I decided on my career path. INTJ Gang ✊🏾

[@Haz1Art]

@@khytron06 Same. Though I grew up to be a Graphic Designer instead. It turns out to be perfect for me. Good balance of problem solving & creativity, also very good utility since I can apply those skills to many other fields too

[@PriHL]

Hey fellow fashion person :) Stylist here, however INFJ.

[@theonfelixsbdcake2509]

Im an intj with 8w7 ennegram and everyone always tell me that my goals are too high and i should be more realistic if i wanna live a proper life Well no wonder why i don’t give up lol

[@whysmile9412]

ok but that felix icon is bothering me. just why?

[@theonfelixsbdcake2509]

@@whysmile9412 cuz felix is my bias and i lov him 🤍 mmmmh felix

[@blackoceancreativeuniverse]

ignore them!

[@Tarasyoutube]

F them

[@Tarasyoutube]

People will define you as things you are not. Do not listen unless you hear it repeatedly then consider it may be real but also it may be a real viciously wrong pervasive concept that serves noone but simpletons. Not to be mean or judge but protect your perception of what you want and who you are at all costs asfar as *positive goals* and caring qualities.

[@rususumi]

Accurate. This is exactly the system I use for problem solving. And thanks for pointing out the importance of personal values. Those motivate pretty much every decision I make and every calculation. I want my whole life consistent with the truth I hold to.

[@lovewho]

Glad you enjoyed the video, it always surprises me when people don't draw attention to the personal motivations of INTJs! If you haven’t already please check out our Discord server, I’m on there most days, we have channels specifically for each type on there as well as many others! The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@gunsbulletsheroin]

Marketing is another game that can be mastered. Packaging your product with a gagworthy click bait title and reminding viewers to hit the notification bell every time is a bitter pill for Fi child to have to swallow, but you can do it if you just remind yourself this is how you put bread on the table

[@MichaGlare]

As an INTJ, I relate a lot, because now it makes more sense. People at school tend to tell me to give up on things, like what I want to do in life, that I will struggle, that I would fail if I choose this path, but I never listened any of them, because I’m aware of what I’m doing, if it’s gonna cause me pain, who cares? Why so concerned about me? It’s my life anyway, and plus even if I’m gonna fail, who said I was gonna give up? Even If I fail multiple times, I won’t give up until I succeed in what I want to achieve. I remember when this one teacher told me to choose another path, just because I had difficulties, even tho I was trying but I never had this state of mind to give up. I was trying. I eventually switched schools, and I got better, and I didn’t fail, and now I’m moving foward. Nothing will stop me. Until my last breath.

[@awesomestrawberry1348]

Keep going, Do not let anyone stop you !

[@sakadmon5480]

I don't know if i'm an INTJ for sure, but, that's how i operate. first, i define my core values and review them every year or every milestone. Then, i define my life goal from my values (always the same). after that, i'm making/reviewing my plans and (re)organize this in details, as far as possible, for the next 10 years. and then, if it is not working, i try something else, but always keep my objectives in mind. all this should work in a perfect world, but everyone of us does what we want and noy what we should.

[@lovewho]

If you haven’t already then feel free to check out the other videos on INTJs on this channel. It can take a long time to figure out your exact type! ~ Nathan

[@m4lev0lentdem0nknightamv5]

Every one forgets that a lot of creativity is required to forge a path to something that demands a lot of effort with very little time available .... It is a general conception that the ability of coming up with multiple possibilities (ne) is the hallmark of creativity but that isn't the case entirely....both Ni and Ne are equally creative but in different ways.... Usually INTJs don't come off as creative in the public because they are focused on getting a job done ...but when they are alone their creativity blooms ....you can see it in a lot of INTJ kids who have a habit of collecting various parts of broken machines and electronics and trying to make different contraptions of their own (it's always hard to name them) .... For them every thing they see is like a peice of a jigsaw puzzle with different projections and depression that would fit another special piece ,after combined would become a complex mechanism and two such complex mechanisms would combine to form another...which would then lead to the big picture they had in mind (like a robot from transformers movie which had a claw similar to an object they have with them, so they will try to use the object to make something similar to the robot ) ...it is hard to explain how Ni's creativity works (with a little bit of fi element in it ) unless you see it ...but most of the time people judge the creativity levels of INTJs in situations where they were not trying to be creative in the first place.... I met a lot of other INTJs in reddit pages or under yt comment section who talked about how they spent a lot of time doing things like this in their childhood... This was just to explain how the creative mechanism...when I grew up I started to use these principles in getting things that required 30 days of work in just 5 days ...

[@beautifullittleoni1216]

Yep - very spot on. As an INTJ myself, all of my plans or goals are Fi motivated (aka based on personal values and morals I hold to a high standard). It's because of Fi that I move forward or don't give up. (Although sometimes Fi can be a fiery chain in some ways. A chain that allows me to pinpoint a goal and use to blaze forward as it's used to latch onto that goal, pulling me forward while Ni-Te guides me on the most optimal path(s). However, it can burn me as well if it keeps me from walking away to find a better path for myself rather than others (thinking of duty and integrity here).) As always, a great video that does justice to INTJs. Truly appreciate the work you put out (even if I mostly lurk in the shadows observing).

[@lovewho]

I love that description of it being a 'fiery chain' - that's a nice way to express it, especially since, as you say, it can blaze and burn in equal measure. I’m on the LoveWho Discord server most days, feel free to join and find me (and other people interested in personality types) on there if you want to chat! The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@MNkno]

Um.. yes, path forger due to the focus on the problem and various ways to solve it. Overlooked blind spot: ALL plans need to be vetted, outcomes maximized, contingencies planned, and to some this looks like we're being "negative" and "a wet blanket on the ideas", when all that we're doing is the second step in the new idea, skipping the much-needed (for some) stage of a wild enthusiastic party and ticker-tape parade for the NEW idea, regardless of how tested and achievable it is, or the feasibility of recovery if anything goes wrong.

[@Sahdirah]

I wonder if that’s a Te thing... I’m an INFP, and I’ve been accused (though admittedly by a shitty person) of wet-blanketing ideas, when to me, that was just my brain logically leaping ahead to flaws because there’s no way to DO the plan unless you can figure out those contingencies.

[@f2r693]

Needed this before my exams. - Sincerely, an INTJ

[@swad2315]

a video that perfectly describes the intj now that is as rare as the intj types

[@maiam6382]

I relate to alot of these - i cant describe myself but this video really does it well

[@simrasheik4909]

I have the goal to make a difference in the world with money I earn by supporting climate concerned projects, and also plan on contributing most of my energy to it and wildlife preservation. This plan is so because more than humans, I have been around cats and nature (gardens, in my case). I, for obvious reasons, always found comfort in looking at animals and nature being nurtured. And it's also time that humans do something right for a change rather than investing in pointless apps like Tik Tok and instagram :)

[@lovewho]

Well if you want to add one extra hopefully not pointless app to your list, please feel free to check out our Discord server, I’m on there most days, we have channels specifically for each type on there as well as many others! The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@abbyanderbard]

This is one of the most applicable Intj videos I've seen for myself. '-' My mind is still processing how accurate this is... Okay. Yes, I resonate with this so very much. I'm 31, an Intj as far as I can tell, and just learning about marketing and demand being the missing piece to my strategies that may make them actually work. Where do my goals come from? I guess, the vision of my ideal life. And how do I get there? I map it out visually, like what does it really look like and how would it work? What would need to be altered? Then I figure the steps out backwards, then try those steps going forward. Man, Nathan, I love your videos. 🌻

[@lovewho]

Hi, firstly thank you for your comment. Secondly, I checked out your most recent KZbin video and it's great, you should definitely make more. Also, feel free to check out our Discord server, it’s a community that lots of INTJs have found useful and fun since there are… others of their kind on there. I'm also on there most days too. The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@abbyanderbard]

@@lovewho (panic panic panic) '-' I can't believe you watched my video. Thank you! I'm still very much figuring things out, so the confidence boost is appreciated. I'll check out the discord server sometime. 🌻 And you should keep making your excellent piano pieces for my soul to feed on. :) All the best!

[@valerievaughn5495]

Love the information in white on black background and the font. Short and to the point. Right on! You can read my mind. INTJ. The SE gets better as you age…always pursuing ways to be better. Like every minute.

[@Zevven]

INXJ are type of people to master one thing completely and be 0 at lots of different areas , especially some skills most people consider basic. Lacking direction in life as Ni Dom sucks. Only after I took care of myself and sorted out my feelings , I , INTJ feel like I'm truly living again. After overindulging in games and anime (completed all I wanted to watch) I now read much more and exercise daily. I'm not even half as agressive now.

[@Zevven]

Basically if you know you're in a Ni-Fi loop , develop Te. Start making shit done and set small goals , complete them and get to bigger ones. Less drama , more action and thinking.

[@lovewho]

This was interesting to read, I agree that exercise can really have a transformative effect when it comes to aggression and removing that agitation that comes from being online a lot of being in front of a screen. Also, feel free to check out our Discord server, it’s a community that lots of INTJs have found useful and fun since there are… others of their kind on there. The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@FartherReach]

My grandfather was an INTJ, an independent-minded and adventurous engineer. After he got over Hegel, he became an anabaptist holy roller, which is where he seemed to find meaning in life. His hobby was breaking new technology and reconstructing it... and collecting slide rules. Apparently, he died with slide rules of many different sizes in his possession. My mother said he expected to sit with the other engineers in heaven.

[@TheZMom_Emmelia]

Pretty much described me. My values for sure determine my goals. I also tend to bounce ideas off of other people whose opinions I trust before I begin in order to make sure all aspects are covered so I don’t waste my time.

[@brandonharden2184]

I agree with almost everything you stated, with the exception that I value quality over quantity. More INTJ videos please.

[@lovewho]

Thank you for this comment and glad you're enjoying the videos! ~ Nathan

[@stevedavenport1202]

Maybe Churchill got too much good PR, but I really admire that guy. He was just what Britain needed during its darkest days

[@lovewho]

A complicated character indeed! ~ Nathan

[@michellegreer4731]

I found this description to be very accurate. Our Fi is often not seen or recognized. Although our Te is more visible, it’s our Fi that is at the core of our behavior, our actions and our goals.

[@jcortese3300]

Best thing in the world about INTJs: you never leave a conversation with them wondering what they meant. They told you what they meant. Ask them "How you doing?" and they will tell you, and then shut up. Glorious.

[@Soundslikelife13]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and articulating this aspect of intjs.

[@Ekolite]

As an INTJ, I love your "Typical INTJ approach" part with the order of the functions. Yes, "Path Forger" sounds right. For example in my gaming hobby, I like to plan out my achievement hunting goals in an efficient, fun manner. I'm not sure where the drive for something meaningless comes from, maybe it's all about the consistency of seeing the end result. Anyway, I will, "hopefully", try to check in with the sensory realities, and the tangible facts. :) :+1:

[@SweetLiLheart]

I need inspiration before I can develop a plan, a goal, or have a vision of something to achieve. It doesn't have to be grand, it can be small, but when it hits me and I get into it, I stay very focused and driven to achieve it. ~INTJ female.

[@charlesdavis7940]

Nailed it. Thank you.

[@Hex_0000]

I totally agree with the motivation process, I've taken the MBTI test multiple times through some years and the most common result I got , 9 out of 10, is INTJ. First I see if something aligns with my values, think it through and lastly get to the practical details of how to get it done.

[@JenniferNPinon]

Our goals are mostly not for our own good but for our family and to those who matters to us and sometimes to those who ask our help to achieve theirs.I mean this is my personal takes,as I seem to have my life fulfilled already so I' m here to help any one i could as long as i can afford to do so or within my ability and skills.

[@jomoore1110]

Female INTJ here. For me, I believe my values came mostly from how I was raised and experiences growing up. I was raised in a very traditional home whose values I completely ascribe to still. God, family, and country (in that order). And I feel the most accomplished when I have done right by these. However, I often find myself in the position you so well described where I lack a specific goal and want to find one I can throw myself into. But at the same time, I'm kind of terrified to really, wholeheartedly commit to anything bc deep down I know I will become borderline obsessive and possibly neglect other things more worthwhile, or even the same values I hold most dear.

[@erazafinance]

I feel mentally drilled every time I see your INTJ videos, its like you are unfolding how I think in real time

[@catherineforrest5882]

Best description I’ve heard!

[@LilacSnowBun]

Love it! You rock 🌷🦄💗

[@Strick64]

You are always spot on with these INTJ videos great work.

[@lovewho]

Glad to hear it!! Hope you enjoy the upcoming videos too ~ Nathan

[@JK-hj6kg]

I’m an intj and fully agree on the descriptions you outlined esp when you mentioned something about the structuring takes place with the goal or vision that appeals most

[@lovewho]

Glad to hear that you found it accurate, it's always nice to get feedback from real-life versions of the types. If you haven’t already please check out our Discord server, I’m on there most days, we have channels specifically for each type on there as well as many others! The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@beautifullittleoni1216]

I'm reading through the comments section...and of course, I'm seeing how much INTJs really seem to love your stuff. Keep it up!

[@russianball9919]

Also as being a marketer the INTJS in the internet marketing industry we tend to be among some of the most successful

[@russianball9919]

As an INTJ who has made many different products and worked on may different projects i can say this is 100% spot on starting with the end in mind and not taking action unless you have at the minim the concepts down wanting to understand the mechanics of it all around this definitely can be a weakness when an INTJ starts on a new project or career because you will procrastinate for so long then end up forgetting about it lastly definitely before you start make sure there will actually be demand you don't always have to reinvent the wheel to be successful a-lot of the time you will fail if you start there

[@shaneaverystarr]

Much of what you said, particularly the specific function(s) of TE in their stack, resonates with the ISTJ mindset as well, and I like that. Thank you!

[@denvercolorado811]

Wow you described my life strategy how I approach goals. It is very efficient.

[@chiozoe]

I’m an INTJ. This description is accurate. It was intriguing to watch my life process/career goals be described to me in a very spot on way.

[@Sunflower-fm6hg]

Spectacular 😍 spot on 💃

[@brettmeyer9055]

The only problem is when I have a vision for a group project but everyone suggests we should all "put our own ideas into it"

[@blackoceancreativeuniverse]

Truly.

[@brinnet]

Absolutely true. Other people make things more complicated. However, I found that starting to consider the other people (and their personalities) as important parts of my group assignment (or work task!) that needed to be solved, then I started to feel more whole. What I mean is, if you're only considering the assignment on paper as the problem that must be solved, you're missing out on the humans who interact with you as another part of the equation to solve. They don't always make it easier, but without taking them into consideration, you're only solving half of the problem...and that isn't very efficient or thought through.

[@pippysmusic]

Thank you❤️

[@drstarftw1140]

If I can’t find a way to my goal, ill definitely make my own way

[@KuhiChr]

I salute You! This was good info and I was inspired to watch it. Quick and precise is exactly what we (may I say that?) need. Thank You!

[@rcdr898]

I'm an INTJ who took the test a few days ago and have been hooked on strangely accurate descriptions of different parts of my character I've never been able to formulate into words. Your sentiment about internal motivation is BEYOND true. I always find myself doing things because of no external reason but my own self, and feeling strangely UNmotivated to do things even when there are clearly high stakes... but putting forth the same effort either way. Really nice video.

[@mizuhashitsunoka]

It's incredible how you are just breaking down a personality type but 1:40 explains my current stagnant life because I lost my goal that drove me to do things. I have been in a limbo for about a year since I lost my goal and since the goal has to be emotional and it has to agree with my principles, whatever new goal I come up with doesn't really works out coz it doesn't fits one of the two conditions. It's incredible how INTJs goal chasing personality is both their greatest strength, when they have decided on something, and their worst nemesis when they don't have anything to live by. I would absolutely love a full series just on INTJs because I want to learn as much as possible about myself and your videos have been extremely helpful in both learning and validating my own feelings. Honestly, if you ever release merch based on what to do things as a certain personality type when you are in a loop or grip, I would preorder the heck out of it for an INTJ. I don't find merch like cups or shirt worth the investment just to flaunt my personality type, as I usually tend to keep that fact to myself.

[@PaleGhost69]

If you're looking for a new path, may I suggest permaculture?

[@mizuhashitsunoka]

@@Wonder_Woman_Of_Pole i have been trying things here and there and improving my self esteem. And they are working but they are all essentially flex tapes for the big gaping holes that rip open once you finish that small task. I am sure you must have had experienced the jolt after doing those small tasks. Being goalless is like being hollow. You just exist and do things but you don't really think about how time passes really. Everything is just Greyscale of sorts once the euphoria dies down.

[@mizuhashitsunoka]

@@PaleGhost69 haha, thanks for the idea but I am in the IT industry. If I were to change that then that would be even bigger of an internal conflict then what I am going through. I know computers are my calling but I am missing out on what to do with my calling.

[@mizuhashitsunoka]

@@Wonder_Woman_Of_Pole Bruh that's robotic and not healthy. You are just pushing your unresolved knots in your head with idle jobs, not really moving on from your problem. I know what a lot of people say about how to solve loops as an INTJ but that's a hecking superficial solution that has led me to a burnout. If our hearts were so easy to resolve, we wouldn't be humans but meat robots.

[@mizuhashitsunoka]

@@VE11 I mean that's your goal fam. Speaks absolutely nothing to me.

[@Matt_Stark]

INTJ and this describes me very well. Great video.

[@joeygardunio9792]

INTJ here, love your videos, and yes once I have a goal set and I know that it is worth the time and energy to take on I will accomplish it whatever the cost may be, to quote Winston. And yes I personally don't mind being the first to do something or doing something if it hurts someone's feeling. The balance is finding what's worthy of my full attention as I'm either all in or all out and what are going to be the social steps necessary to accomplish it. Then getting to work. I hope this helps!

[@lovewho]

Glad you're enjoying the videos! Also, feel free to check out our Discord server, it’s a community that lots of INTJs have found useful and fun since there are… others of their kind on there. The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@reviewyup592]

Wow deep video. And its on point. My goals are usually from my daily struggles that I need to overcome. Also it could be some computer/mathematics challenge I find intriguing. I might not have immediate solution on hand but I will find my way to the solution. In the end its so much satisfying. But I keep these victories very private. What people see about me is just the tip of an iceberg and they are already intimidated.

[@AnaPaula-kt1oi]

my motivation comes from self mastery and productivity. I never had any difficulty finding my passion as I always had planty of alone time to think and process my feelings.

[@lovewho]

Self mastery and productivity are definitely things that I can personally resonate with as a source of motivation too, very good points. I’m on the LoveWho Discord server most days, feel free to join and find me (and other people interested in personality types) on there if you want to chat! The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@jens5573]

He pretty much described how I found my career. Ni - Engineering to create and forge Te - Studying hard to get the grades I need to apply for electrical engineering Fi - Creating something out of nothing to move humanity forward Se - Do I have the requirements to actually apply for this subject? Funny how he broke it down in less than 7 minutes xD

[@_kayla6136]

This is a really accurate description for me as an INTJ. I struggle so much with Se, that I sometimes plan for an entire year (structuring and organizing the outcome and various pieces) before I attempt the meaningful project - which I tend to obsessively tweak until success happens. This draws me into outlandish ideas and fields that probably don't solve many problems for a large portion of the population, but I attempt it regardless due to what I value. Others consider me to be a "path forger", but it's related to the idea that if I want something in this world that isn't here yet, then I have to make it myself. It took me over six years to find my "path" (going in and out of existential thoughts to forge the meaning behind it) ...but when I found it, I never gave up finding solutions, even failure after failure. If any INTJ is reading this, please take care of your body and Se (sometimes over your obsessions). lol I promise it will help you physically in the long run. Thank you for your video! - I want to watch more of your videos in the future. They are great.

[@jsmith317]

You're one of the few personality type content providers my INTJ hubby likes and can somewhat trust. You get it right while still emphasizing we're human (while joking we're not). 😂

[@markb5160]

This is really good.

[@Ryan78336]

I have difficulty narrowing my focus, especially when it comes down to my school work. This is a deliberate ritual for me. I’m also my own worst critic, highly self critical and have to exert energy in a wasteful effort to silence this inner voice daily.

[@blackoceancreativeuniverse]

Wait, wait, wait.........I'm supposed to check in with sensory reality? Also, I think the Olympic committee needs to issue me a Gold Medal in "Solving Problems No One Else Cares About".

[@dianajordan2206]

Please ask my husband about the neverending saga of me trying to figure out a combined toothpaste/toothbrush invention and having to talk through all of my design speculations AT him. And him patiently saying, “but no one needs this………..”. But I am possessed with the need to figure this out. 😂😂😂😂

[@blackoceancreativeuniverse]

@@dianajordan2206 you must EXTRUDE the paste THRU the brushes, like play-doh spaghetti.

[@dianajordan2206]

@@blackoceancreativeuniverse BWAHAHAHA I have never done that.

[@e00d20]

thanks fo rkeeping it post

[@petyreyvind9963]

As an INTJ, I can confirm that this is actually all pretty accurate.

[@jmurrell7]

spot on.

[@ChromaticTempest]

Everything substantial I do is born of a personal value, and because it is something I've deemed important, it gets my all. A fun example of this is when my friends came to me with the idea of starting a band. We were all terrible musicians, never played anything other than clarinets or the snare drum in school and did the basic music classes. Nevertheless, we picked our instruments, buying the cheapest we could find and began to learn. I'd say we all progressed similarly at first, but then it became important to me. I began to appreciate the fun we had and the ideal of becoming a great band hit me. From that point on I excelled, far surpassing my other fellow guitarist in the band (who had a shaky practice regime) and it wasn't even close. I had a mission, and practiced every day relentlessly. The rest of the guys eventually caught up to me talent-wise but it took them a few years longer. There was a long period there when most of my social group considered me to be one of the best guitarists (we had met and befriended several other local bands). This example is one of many in my life so far. So to say I resonate with the description of 'relentless,' or 'driven' is obvious. If my Fi rallies, my Te is rowdy 'bout it and there is no one that can tell me, or maybe even influence me off the track. If I don't understand something and it's becoming an obstacle to getting what I want, I pick at it until I beat it. Do note, this my older teen to adult self. As a kid I was far more apathetic about life. I think my Te had some maturing to do. I know my emotional intelligence had a LOT of maturing to do.

[@surlamuron]

My perception of INTJs has been, up until this point, that they always are motived, always have goals. My mystical INTJ grandpa wired several municipal areas for electricity when it was a new commodity. He invented ways to put electrical lines underground and track shorts from his home (which I back-engineered upon hearing of it after his death). My ENxJ lawyer cousin, also related to grandpa above, cornered the ambulance chasing business in his town and beyond. Another related ENTJ cousin is engaged in a highly lucrative but morally questionable practice overseas, or at least all indicators point in that direction. SO I find it surprising that many INTJs lack motivation. Interesting.

[@SeeDeeSea]

I'm an INTJ. Went for a sales job. Got MBTI tested and didn't get the role. Went for another sales job. Everything was happy-clappy, until my IQ test came back and the manager was literally ashen. It was a mood changer. She thought she was smart. Evidently, not that smart. People are intimidated by brain cells. Ho-hum. I'd have thought that doing well in a test is a plus. Not necessarily. What was the point of all that?

[@nichonito]

Descriptions on the money, for sure. I'd definitely agree with the characterization of path forger.

[@lovewho]

Glad you liked the video and found it accurate! Cool content on your channel too btw, also, feel free to check out our Discord server, it’s a community that lots of INTJs have found useful (through connecting with like-minded people) and fun since there are… others of their kind on there. The link is in the description of this video ~ Nathan

[@nichonito]

@@lovewho Thank you. :) I joined the Discord... though I've never done Discord before so I'm a bit lost. Lol. I'll find my way around. :)

[@tastytesty]

'Taking action and stay in touch with sensory reality.' People don't know how important it is for INTJs. Sensory realities are the drive, the ultimate drive for INTJs to grow. If they are isolated from that thing, the spiral down to the tendency of thinking and behaving like a dictator will just get worse and worse.

[@maxb5640]

Pretty much a perfect match for my mode of thinking. And yeah developing SE is a superpower for INTJ. Since i consciously started doing it ( starting with my physical body) I grew immensely as a person. It also you makes you more level headed and humble as you start appreciating Se based types

[@Midnight_Lantern]

I am an INTJ Female. Brooding, cynical hunter. Stubborn and beautifully twisted in intelligent and seductive ways. Ive often been told Im 'negative' or pessimistic because I focus on problems that need a solution rather than on whats going well. This is not because I dont see or value what is working well. I do. Intensely. But is it not more efficient to eliminate problems to avoid their occurrence? Isnt it more strategic to prevent a problem, rather than whine about it once it occurs? Of course it is. *sips coffee and stares intently*

[@studywid]

👍

[@rodrigobrcl]

There was a time when I doubted if I really am an INTJ, but now I know for sure that this is my type and you just said everything accurately, especially the marketing and sales thing. I am currently studying these topics including business and finance as they are keys to make my grand vision reality. Like Thanos said: "I am inevitable", bu I will live to enjoy my vision coming true instead.

[@johnknight9150]

Seemed pretty spot on to me. I'm glad you called... was it the ENTPs? the Chess players instead of us. I commented on another video about how we INTJs are always visually represented by Chess for some reason, and that I think other types like INTPs are probably better at Chess than we are. I realised part of the problem is our tunnel vision: we love to plan ahead, but it's quantity over quality as you said, and Chess has a dozen things going on at once where we want to reduce a problem to as few elements as possible. In agreement with your doggedness and blood sweat and tears observation, today I was playing Chess against the computer, clumsily, blitzing one round after another, but testing one strategy after another in order to establish patterns and simplify the game, thereby establishing a reliable game plan.

[@kalinadesseaux8011]

Very thorough and interesting I feel I've learned alot; 204 if you're in Japan, brilliant "A novelist that starts writing the end of the story first" Being a writer who has done this, what a good example; one I can really understand and envision (infj)

[@lovewho]

Glad you enjoyed the video!! May I recommend joining the LoveWho discord server if you haven't already? There are lots of creative people on there and it's a great way to connect with them. The link is in the description of the video! ~ Nathan

[@zetsubouka2947]

motivation is essential; it gives me the power to reach my goals. I avoid doing things I’m not interested in

[@natd7816]

Great commentary on INTJ. When it comes to my deeply held values and beliefs, of which I will not sacrifice for anything, it is almost as though my life will be purposeless if I do not act on the vision born out of them, even if I'm alone in doing so. And being a fraud is, at the very least, a waste of life's time. While it can be lonely this way, it is untenable in my mind to go about it any other way until, or if, I find a better way.

[@kaska456]

The wait has ended

[@yihanwang5004]

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[@Vicente_Lopes_Senger]

100%. Where my goal comes from? I think from my passion for what I make, with a mix of a will to put my own ideas as a product in the world. The drive comes, perhaps, from the challenge of proving myself capable of materializing the idea but even more from having this (as perceived by me) "grand" vision I have realized.