IS BODYBUILDING A SKILL | Fouad Abiad, Ben Chow, Nick Walker & Guy Cisternino | Bro Chat #65

[@FouadAbiad]

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[@ironheadhooligan]

Shaving ur balls and not getting cut requires skill…😂

[@bartsimpson8002]

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[@chrisc9230]

Bodybuilding is not a skill!!! Genetics and steroids matter WAY more in bodybuilding than any other sport period.

[@bernardlamanepa1247]

I'm agree with Fuad here about bodybuilding is not a skill

[@bernardlamanepa1247]

Hey Fouad, why don't you make poll for this "is bodybuilding a skill?"

[@ChrisEYamur]

Thanks guys, just edited my resume and added bodybuilding as a skill. 😊

[@FouadAbiad]

Lmao

[@jonsweiss4134]

I use BB as an example when they ask me about my life, it usually opens up a door if said properly

[@Xjames14X]

@@FouadAbiad Nick Mercs is a top level gaming streamer lolol Ben chow is like "fuck that guy lol"

[@rockysingh1245]

Lol well done on this comment. Fouad I was just as frustrated when your boys kept arguing bodybuilding is a skill lol. Maybe 8ts a Canadian thing i would love to hear Ian's opinion

[@fadishoriz3736]

I added throwing a football with precision to my resume as a skill?

[@65bucksmedia]

BB does require skill. Posing well is a skill. Prepping and knowing how to prep your body for a show is a skill. Aside from what Ben said, mind muscle connection does require skill as well.

[@bostonstrongpatriots8881]

Fouad meant it's not the same.level of skill like dropping back reading a D and throw a laser ball on back shoulder. Off course it requires a skill

[@65bucksmedia]

@@bostonstrongpatriots8881 oh I understand that. But they only touched on the mechanics of lifting weights. I’m just bringing up a side to BB that they didn’t touch on. Which, IMO, I feel like most pro BB treat their craft with the same energy and focus like NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, etc players put in theirs. We are just so used to it and think it’s more natural that we forget that average joes probably would fail at BB just as much as they would in another sport.

[@JustJohnny666]

I agree with Fouad about "is bodybuilding a skill". I 99% agree with him. Bodybuilding is a skill but there is so little skill involved anybody could do it.

[@FouadAbiad]

That’s what I was implying.

[@dexterlines1735]

Lifting weight is lifting weight sculpting muscles and living it as a lifestyle and perfecting it is a skill

[@JustJohnny666]

@@dexterlines1735 what skill is there to lifting and eating? Posing is a skill but easily mastered. Add carefulness into the mix - not getting injured. And health - taking the proper medication and pills and vitamins and shit. And checking the doctor.

[@MONSTROUSITOUS]

Father of 4, train at 4:15 in the morning before going to work, get home go to practices. None of that stops me. I’m more driven and made more progress in the last year following that then the previous 5 years combined. If you want it bad enough it’ll get done. Thank you for another great podcast

[@tyrone8726]

I always have a smile on my face when I see that a new episode has come out :) Love you guys

[@infinitereps2941]

Being an elite quarterback is a skill but it takes longer to develop. Executing a squat with perfect form is a skill but it is usually mastered quicker. I think fouad is focused on time to develop.

[@tommanzie8555]

Exactly!

[@josuearaya1177]

Right whether it takes a long time to develop or a short time, it still takes skill… plus time is only relative to each individual it may take one person a week while it may take another a month… I can think of a couple people who have taken a long time trying to get Mind to muscle connection on certain body parts. Also just you can execute a lift perfectly but doesn’t mean you have acquired mind muscle connection to really feel it in the muscle and grow.

[@Bubs58]

I think the time factor is kind of irrelevant

[@jacobrichards7120]

100%

[@squattilupuke2435]

I been squating for 6 years twice a week and still dont consider it perfect.

[@nickconopa562]

57:50 what I tell anyone when they ask why I don’t miss, I know every training session, every day I miss a meal or two, is prolonging me that much more from achieving what I want

[@RMJerich0]

For me bodybuilding contains of many skills. execution of an exercise is a skill, intensity is a skill. Yes, technique-wise it is easier than for example boxing to learn. But boxing is not just throwing a straight right the same lifting is not just benching in one particular way. Overall you can develop a decent skills for bodybuilding (considering other factors like genetics) faster than in other sports. BUT you wont get in any sport only on skill the same is bodybuilding. Even skill of eating a lot (its a skill no doubt, it took me YEARS, but for some it could take month. thats genetics in a way) is kinda hard to develop. Or diet and plan the day. Btw getting skills for great performances in boxing does not takes much time. But getting everything work together thats a hard part. Same with bodybuilding. But technique for bb is easier and faster to learn, sure.

[@chandlernikodemski7430]

Exactly right

[@TLP1]

Pretty much laughed beginning to end on this one, minus the skill argument part, where I was yelling at Fouad that it takes longer than one week to perfect a squat. Probably took me years to get the perfect technique down. We've all heard bodybuilders/powerlifters talk about tweaking technique over the years and figuring out what's best for your body. Foot placement, hand placement, high bar, low bar, how far toes are pointed out, elevated heels, flat soles, barefoot. Took me years to find out exactly what works best for me, and I'm still learning, which is something all the old guys always say. We're always learning and perfecting technique. We are always learning and perfecting our SKILL.

[@DethrowDestruction]

Yeah I was laughing so hard, like you can teach someone to squat in a week but it can be perfected more, it's like saying you can teach someone to shoot a basketball into the hoop in a week too but what makes someone better at it .. haha I loved this episode, love Fouad it was a great argument but I was also yelling saying CMON FOUAD!! lmao

[@minaestfanous3006]

Having nickmercs send you something is pretty great. Your reach is expanding , very well deserved dude !

[@healthyliving3611]

I hope understands who exactly Nick is.

[@jonsweiss4134]

@@healthyliving3611 I don't think he does exactly but James brought him up previously in a podcast

[@minaestfanous3006]

@@jonsweiss4134 james would be over the moon that Nick messaged Fouad

[@TheMattyg2009]

did he ask a question? must have missed that

[@jonsweiss4134]

@@TheMattyg2009 it was the animal one when they called branch the 1st time

[@osamasultan6394]

Was waiting for this whole week, Thanks Fouad! Also the ad read was hilarious 😂

[@haroldbrian310]

Bodybuilding is not a skill, its a LIFESTYLE, oh yeah, thanks sir fouad and bc crew... ❤️🙏❤️

[@Sandsyy]

This podcast is something else, keep em coming ❤️

[@Adrian.56]

To be honest the debate is probably the best thing about the show. The raw and honesty they all believe in is amazing.

[@enzostarget]

I would have loved to hear Iain's opinion on the "bodybuilding=skill ?" argument

[@6shutterproductions]

Hey Fouad! Honestly I came across these about 3 months ago. And I'm almost caught up with all the bro chats. Seriously entertaining and motivational content. You, ben and guy fucking rock! Love every single one of em. Thanks for the quality as well as the quantity. I don't have any social media, so maybe pass along to the other guys it's always appreciated. 💪🦍👍

[@matthewadcroft9554]

You’ve gone from reading ads like a robot to finessing them like a pro

[@FouadAbiad]

LOL, in the beginning they wanted me to read them. I like doing it my way better, thanks man!

[@MM-xs1qm]

You can say he’s become ‘skilled’ at it now 😙

[@TheFatjester69]

Away from the fam for 14 days. Always love watching these man. Thank you so much!

[@mikeramgopal3912]

100% agree with Fouad. BB is no way a skill in the classic sense that involves mastering a technique. throwing a football, hitting a golf ball or performing a gymnastic move. Ability to grow muscle is a genetic trait which does not have to be practiced, refined and mastered in the same way.

[@brendan_blackburn]

Fouad yelling “guy shut the f**k up” had me dying 😂😂😂

[@LambFricker]

If only James were on this podcast. He would’ve loved Nick Mercs sending that in

[@mangilitking4572]

Man I love the argument about skill😂 I love this podcast, thank you Mr. Fouad🧡🔥

[@ToneA206]

Let's Gooo! Love all the podcasts. Even the wife kicks back and watches every vid. 💪

[@chrismorrell4177]

That’s awesome bro

[@TankStrank]

This episode had me laughing so much!! Made my shift go so much faster. Thanks all!!

[@jamesritchie4372]

For the skill argument: - anyone with good genetics who gives everything to become a pro will become a pro bodybuilder - not everyone with good genetics for football will become a pro NFL player

[@ErikRed1983]

When I get the notification for another Bro Chat it does really lift my day up :) btw Fouad you looked awesome in your recent IG post

[@nathanlee3372]

As someone who is into powerlifting, I can 100% say, squat, bench and dead is a skill.. No matter how much you do it, no matter how good you think your form is, you will always learn more. Learning to squat with perfect form to lift the most weight possible suited to your biomechanics is comparable to learning to shoot hoops Edit: maybe bodybuilding doesn't come under that, but for sure powerlifting does

[@georgedavidov5250]

BALANCE, AMBASSADOR, SKILL. Three of the most memorable arguments on this show lol.

[@dabizniz5276]

Everyone underestimates Nick's intellect, but he's right almost every time about utensils, the strongest mammal, etc.

[@sirpreece9355]

i think he gets brain fog a lot cuz of the gear

[@Txdc333]

It's been 84 years.... lol was looking forward to the next podcast

[@juanssome]

James is going to freak out after calling Nickmercs a fan lol

[@PurseANUL]

The GOAT Podcast. Fan for life!

[@EliasSanchez21]

Bodybuilding is just like throwing a ball. They’re both learned and perfected by different people. Bodybuilders can learn to control their cravings when they’re in a calorie deficit, they learned that which is a skill. To a bodybuilder controlling cravings seems simple but to the average person they can’t control those cravings. The takeaway here is give yourself a little more credit. Bodybuilding is mentally tough and learning to be mentally tough is a skill.

[@greatbuilder100]

@@mic_whiskey_2757 knowing how to sculpt your body is def a skill.

[@ashleyplumpton7355]

Best episode ever man, This was just brilliant thank you gentlemen ✌

[@jiviteshsharma1021]

Me personally being a national athlete (tennis player) who has now shifted focus to build muscle, can vouch that although both crafts do require skill playing a sport does require some skills or types of shots that require much more time to build when compared to a bodybuilding movement, but then again it does take time to build strength and muscle if you want to equate that to learning a particular shot or move in a sport. So may be the fruit of being skillfull at a sport is being good at it and the fruit of building of being skillfull at bodybuilding is being more muscular, hence they could be considered equal in terms of skill considering the end 'fruit' as the result.

[@FouadAbiad]

So you’re saying the skill it takes to bodybuild (not put on muscle) is equal to the skill of pro tennis?

[@bassbodybuilding2267]

@@FouadAbiad i think he means the skills learned in each have different time frames, to learn a skill in tennis takes longer then it might in a bodyuilding movement or lift, both skills, but one takes more practice to enhance the technique.

[@jiviteshsharma1021]

@@FouadAbiad If looked at that simply-no, pro tennis does seem harder, but I can safely say that practicing a tennis forehand for 6 months you'd be able to hit a technically sound shot, but it takes way longer for people to build a mind muscle connection for the back- thus muscle fiber recruitment for growth,enhancing that to perform be able to get the most out of a simple movement that can be learned in a day - can be considered the "skill" of bodybuilding , although just the movements might be way easier and faster to learn than other sports but it takes the same amount of time to get really good at them to perform them at a high level where they are beneficial and conducive to the task at hand? don't you think?

[@Bmatthews98]

I sent the picture holy hell! This is awesome! Thanks guys!

[@edwardlawrence4160]

NO Fouad! At the level you guys train & be successful in top level Bodybuilding is definitely a SKILL!!!!

[@LndrGaruffi]

A big hug from Brazil man 🇧🇷💪🏻

[@llucaristondoalzina2061]

The thing is ramy was much bigger in the screen (you can see his head is at the same height while his feet are way lower than the other's) so it makes him look soo much better

[@marcusearnshaw1816]

Nah Ramy really is better man. But he just doesn't have the detail

[@Lift805]

Lmao I’m so high the ending killed me “scrapy doo vs scooby doo” 💀💀

[@zdzaid]

Been refreshing the channel everyday for new upload🔥💥 the boys are back🙏

[@alexandraholmgren4263]

Im with fouad on this. Bodybuilding takes a lot of things - dedication, intensity, strength, character etc but it is not a skill in the same way other proffesional Sports are

[@cynthiamay7269]

The best part of these podcasts is that you find yourself yelling your opinion at the screen like your in the conversation. Lolol.

[@abdullahalesayi2793]

anyone can go to the gym and do a machine preacher curl (even if they have never gymmed) but no one can know how to throw at first try. Bodybuilding takes very low skill level but the highest level discipline , while other sports takes high skill level but not as hard discipline. MY OPINION haha

[@nicks2154]

My week wasn't complete until this appeared on my notifications. Thanks guys.

[@calebblythe8936]

nick mercs is one of the biggest twitch streamers and fouad calls him just a fan😂😂😂has me cracking up

[@Bubs58]

Rest In Peace Mr. John Meadows, though he would’ve been an excellent person to be involved in the is bodybuilding a skill conversation!

[@alayshah4494]

What I would give to know why Guy was late this time 😂😂

[@worldwiders1632]

Thinking the same thing😂

[@ryanmiller8405]

The little video competition at the video was great!!👌🏼👌🏼

[@AaronAramini]

Allow me to settle this. Is Bodybuilding a Skill? No, it's a pageant. Is Football a Skill? No, it's a sport. Is throwing a football a skill? No, it's an action. Is Squatting a Skill? No, it's also an action. Now getting deeper. Is throwing that Football the way Tom Brady does a Skill? Yes, because it requires precision, accuracy and force. The same way connecting to the muscle recruitment it would require to Breakdown the tissue to grow within a Squat. It's not the Squat itself that is the Skill. It's the ability to feel that muscle through its range of motion. Just doing the action isn't enough in Bodybuilding anyways. And to Ben and Nick's point, when Ronnie squatted that 800+lbs , it was very much so a Skill to be able to hold that amount of weight and also ensure it was those muscles targeted. Learning any action within anything isn't a skill. Whether it be Bodybuilding or Football or Basketball. But to develop the action into how it is performed and executed is 100% skill based. Loved the argument guys. Love the podcast always. 😁😁

[@Txdc333]

Lmao the scrolling through ig trying to find the video with guy yelling in the background was hilarious

[@anthonypastor9635]

NICKMERCS ???? 26:31 when worlds collide lol

[@nathantustin3270]

This podcast makes my day, man

[@ashleypursell9702]

i agree with fouad when your setting aside the weight lifted, intensity of training, motivation etc and you purely look at skill compared to basketball i belive basketball requires a superior amount of skill. skill meaning the act of performing the thing such as bodybuilding training or playing basketball, basketball requires hand eye co-ordination, how to get past other players, positions, strategy, critical thinking, the mind muscle connection of shooting hoops from different distances and appropriatly judging the distance to get the ball through the hoop. whereas with bodybuilding sure there is some skill for example perfecting a squat with form, mind muscle connection etc but they are not compariable. you could actually say michealle jordan has the same SKILL doing a squat as a pro bodybuilder but he DOES NOT lift heavy or train as intense as a pro bodybuilder which is aside from skill.

[@ashleypursell9702]

i do agree tho the pain of training could be a skill that could be developed over a long period of time that i do agree with

[@greatbuilder100]

The art of posing is a skill.

[@ashleypursell9702]

@@greatbuilder100 i mean sure but its not like its a super hard thing to learn

[@greatbuilder100]

@@ashleypursell9702 mastering those 3 quarter back poses and other back twists are super hard trust me. That’s why Arnold still is the master.

[@ashleypursell9702]

@@greatbuilder100 mastering poses is nowhere in near the skill level of other sports tho not even close. u could get 90% perfection on a pose in a week

[@YaBoiBrad]

Fouad is a real one for coming out with it. Pro bodybuilders of course are gonna get butthurt if you try to demean their careers and all their hard work as something that doesn't require skill. Bodybuilding really is just living a certain way and having the discipline to adhere to that lifestyle for a prolonged period of time. Of course doing various exercises properly and with correct intensity requires skill, but it's comparable to learning how to ride a bike, or rollerblading.

[@WeSkatePN]

Lol it’s nick mercs one of the biggest streamers out there “ he’s just a fan who gives a fuck “ 😂🤣

[@FouadAbiad]

I had no idea lol.

[@wrxman16]

Heck yes! Snow day with the boys! Thanks fouad!

[@llucaristondoalzina2061]

Phils most muscular is better than ronnies and kevin's lol

[@chrismorrell4177]

Fouad about putting the pads on with Guy: “I’m not worried” Made my morning

[@hannibal89]

This podcast is brilliant 😆👍🏻 thank you fouad ❤️.and I love how things get competitive between between guy and fouad 😆(in a nice way)

[@crazycade123]

Definition of skill: ‘the ability to do something well’

[@gabrielxbecker8024]

Love you guys, I will be on this team soon speaking it into existence

[@davidhrezik3221]

1:24:18 😂 I was just looking at Guy and thinking to myself that he has to be really high right now and Fouad goes.... 🤣🤣🤣

[@jonahgormley2578]

These podcasts are essential now fouad good job buddy Can’t wait for BB and bollocks James is the funniest😂

[@jessfowler4207]

Great episode you Nick and Ben and Guy definitely have to be on together more often lol fkn dream team love it

[@831liftingalot]

😭😭😭😭 thank you for blessing the world with another podcast

[@tbtb7084]

Thanks for the upload Fouad

[@BroderickBrodie21]

Thank youFouad Abiad, Ben Chow, Nick Walker & Guy Cisternino

[@TheMattyg2009]

damn my face hurts after watching this 🤣🤣 thanks for a great episode!

[@themanagement69]

All the arguing in this one had me in stitches.

[@connormugford-paul6633]

The wide fucken smile when i saw this upload with the fellas and the things 2 hours long. Yeeeee buddy Love the work the Fouad

[@davidgonzalez0835]

Perfect timing!!! Thanks Fouad!!!

[@omarben-hariz6836]

Your more than welcome to the UK Fouad! Would be sick to have the team here. Will defo be attending if you do a live podcast here.

[@calebblythe8936]

even the ads are entertaining, don’t know how you guys do it !

[@panilssonmsc9636]

I totally love this episode, this has it all for me💪✊ heated debate, guy smoking weed getting Mega stoned, soul searching and general bodybuilding.

[@benwebber248]

Canada would love to have you as a guest Nick! It would be an honour❤️🇨🇦!

[@josiahwilliams6646]

Never disappoints the chemistry is best mate vibes

[@HephaestusKid27]

This podcast making me laugh when I need it!!

[@akagunther]

We need Guy stoned on the podcast more often this has been a hilarious episode 🤣🤣

[@hunterpittman100]

Thank you fouad for another podcast appreciate it!

[@jonknight483]

I allow myself to have a drink on special occasions in my off season. All the occasions fall in November and December. Anniversary, Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years.

[@christiantheleviathan3646]

Lifting weights well with good form is a skill, and posing is a skill. I think you can argue that being so dedicated and having the ability to stick to a plan is a skill.

[@moroccanfuturestrader94]

Neural drive mind muscle connection and understanding what your body is telling you is definitely a skill alot of people are taking insane amounts of drugs but only a few can bench from 600 to 700 lbs, only a few people know when to train, what to train when they should load or deload

[@alexanderimmortal4354]

FINALLY been waiting for it all week love you guys 💜🦇

[@joskyyebo]

44:43 guy yelling "GO BACK" LMFAO

[@leigh_carmichael]

I agree with Fouad. For the most part anyone can do bodybuilding, no skill required. Just follow the process. The elite succeed due to genetics, consistency and determination. Unfortunately most bodybuilders don’t like to admit they have no real skills 😅

[@eastcoastmuscle2578]

East Coast Canada checking in. Much love

[@Sdpowell1950]

Good session. Some of the topics are hilarious with the responses.

[@sampreston8548]

I swear we've had this debate about bodybuilding being a skill before but still another great podcast

[@Jayrockrealty]

Thanks for leaving it in Fouad

[@vstrvcvrtv]

Being a bodybuilder is a skill. Contracts, programming, coaching nutrition, catering, biomechanics, shots, posing presentation... Summed up it's like cosmetic dancing, each a skill

[@TheMetataron11114]

Been waiting the whole week!! Thanks Fouad

[@thekid12390]

Haven't watched this yet but I know it will be great.!

[@BenG15]

Bodybuilding is an art, craft, mindset. Anyone can do it but only the strongest willed survive which comes down to attributes and genetics.

[@tonivartiainen6335]

I think we need Branch on couple of BroS ChatS.

[@tbtb7084]

This was a great episode

[@grimshorts4834]

I was hoping to get a new one today. Gotta love it.

[@donjorgensen6393]

Awsome timing!

[@Ricardo-zp6sg]

Squatting, Deadlifting, is definitely a skill 💯