Is Godsworn Actually Better Than Stormgate?

[@ozthebeeman]

this game looks fun, this is what RTS deserves. RTS doesnt need to be uber competitive. it needs to be fun, this why i and hundreds more have started playing RTS, not because of esports, but becuase it was fun.

[@WestCoastDon448]

Yep and a lot of idiots think balancing around the top 10 players in the world is better even if it makes it imba for 99.9% of the player base

[@cornucopiaofthings]

you say that like casual rts games dont outnumber competitive ones but they do, by a lot

[@Chris971.]

Glad to hear that hundreds have started playing RTS

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Balancing bottom to top is dumb.

[@nathanpetrich7309]

You could try dual design, where the top 1% of players are balanced around everyone taking high skill floor options, and the other 99% of the game is balanced around low skill ceiling options. That way you'd have a pool of players who have mastered the most difficult but also most effective paths to victory, but also most players who aren't at that level can still engage with the game in a way that doesn't disrupt the competitive ecosystem.

[@njdarda]

so glad you looked at this. i played it a couple of months ago, and the game showed a lot of promise. great music, graphics and overall atmosphere. much more inspired and interesting than stormgate, certainly.

[@Mr_Fission]

Just with a casual look at the presentation and gameplay, this looks much more enticing than Stormgate. The mechanics seem new and interesting.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

"New"

[@RLMemeLord]

​@@HighLanderPonyYTmaybe he was born just yesterday

[@sealboy1211]

This is age of mythology. If you like the looks of this, check out mythology’s remaster coming out.

[@eduardoserpa1682]

It really wish that 1% of the people who like Godsworn were playing it online.

[@ufftatabummbumm]

2 guys making a game looks and feels already 2x better than Stormgate, let that sink in.

[@Iwmar]

Cause SG is basically a scam. Semi-retired Blizzard employers who were let go from their jobs didn't wanna change their comfy lifestyle in California so they decided to open own studio and advertise it as the 2nd coming of old Blizzard, Tim gets to write himself a $250 000 paycheck while doing bugger-all. They launch an unfinished product that looks and plays worse than 14 years old SC2 while having 1/10th of the features and monetize the living shit out of it so they can continue the paychecks.

[@TallestFiddle]

2x?

[@potenviking]

That looks so much better. If they were 10 people, that game would have been a worthy Warcraft 3 successor.

[@chubby0815]

@@potenviking It still can be a worthy successor in my mind. It's already on a good way to create it's own feeling and hopefully in a few years no one needs to compare it to any other RTS and it can stand on it's own.

[@Gloromo]

The hate is getting out of hand lmao, this does not look better than stormgate wth

[@TheWayManREAL]

It is very sad that a lot "big" "hyped" rts have over shadowed IMO better RTS games that aren't triple A titles but they are very fun and bring a lot to the table.

[@AtticusKarpenter]

This is why paid ads is just a bad concept. Products shouldn't differentiate to "big/mainstream/AAA" and "obscure" just because of willingness of big company to waste on the ad campaign enormous pile of money, sometimes equal to the amount of money used to make product itself. When all AAA studies struggled for a year and stop constant flood of advertisement for their shitty games, people discovered and hyped so, so much little genius indie games. This is how fair, competitive market looks, when you have to make your game famous among people by making it good and unique, not by hiring army of ad managers. Modern advertisement business overdone overall, and more strict norms could make it more reasonable, so we can again look at the ad to learn about products instead of just glossing over them, filtering out as info noise and fighting them with adblock because its just SO many of it, and it all so stupid and false

[@ClaudioBOsorio]

Ngl i like this game better. The art is pixelated but beautiful

[@wozo9210]

looks better than stormgate ngl

[@greatbigeyeball]

Godsworn rocks, it’s very easy to support a dev team got so much right out of the gate

[@gomezthechimp1116]

It currently has 12 people playing. Which is 11 more than Stormgate.

[@cpugwash7085]

Ah, Godsworn. I've loved what there is so far of the campaign, and had some fun with skirmish (And I'm not usually a skirmish fan.) For a game with 2 developers it's insanely good. The worker limit: It's based on the population limit setting, so if you're a standard 100 pop game, it's always 32, and then it's higher in higher pop games and lower in lower pop limit games. There are a few exceptions, though - Saule has an ability that gives a building a permanent extra worker that's attached to it and doesn't take up pop cap, while Ausrine has a faith building that doesn't need workers to operate. (Having said that, there definitely are still some rough edges.)

[@francoisvercruysse4934]

Bloodlust was an ability back in Warcraft II cast by Ogre

[@zenvent]

As I read this I heard the roar / noise.

[@john0000011111]

And in Heroes of the Storm Rehgar can cast this

[@JN-hs5xl]

@@zenvent GRGLRGRLGGRLRGLGLRGLRL

[@allhailderpfestor4839]

It's been staple Horde ability since so technically WC2, WC3, WoW and HotS all correct (dunno if it is in original WC)

[@ryanpcollins]

By Ogre Magi!

[@919kawa]

Hey! So glad to see you play this gem. Been quite active on the game and organised a small tournament for 2v2 as well (team games are also a focus of the devs). You should surely look at those kind of games too! Would love to answer any question you might have as well if you have any

[@ThortheGodly]

Do they have any plans to add ffa matchmaking? I really like ffa and nobody seems to support it anymore.

[@919kawa]

​@@ThortheGodly I'll give a more generic answer, matchmaking is not yet in the pipe. As you heard, they're 2 peps working daily on it so they're more focused on "base content" releasing such as basic maps, challenge maps, new heroes (there are already a few things in a SoonTM way). When we're closer to release they might (?) think about matchmaking. Devs want to focus more on Team aspects, so might be a good occasion to have some FFA stuff, right now is possible in lobbies tho

[@DirkusTurkess]

They made this game in a cave with a box of scraps.

[@jonnmostovoy2406]

What a beautiful game.

[@Iseenoobpeoples]

It's like 10 new car companies suddenly decided to release 10 new cars with carburetors and leaf springs.

[@Szokynyovics]

Okay... but... How do you turn this on 😂😊

[@themarcialesmathmoment5045]

And upgraded drum brakes.

[@GenJuhru]

And I hope they have release dates that are a few months between each other, and not stupidly try to compete with each other since the RTS community is not even that big.

[@eduardoserpa1682]

Unit design-wise, it seems to be in the ballpark of Northgard (maybe even AoE), but with a cooler hero unit. Which makes a lot of sense for a such a small game.

[@LynSain]

This is like Battle Realms and SpellForce combined. Neat.

[@iTzTiMeToJuMp]

battle realms!!!

[@Popikawaii]

@@iTzTiMeToJuMp battle realms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@quishzhu]

battle realms!!!!!!!!!!!!!! battle realms!!!!!!!!!!!!!! battle realms!!!!!!!!!!!!!! battle realms!!!!!!!!!!!!!! battle realms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@00110000]

Battle Reeeeealms! (Still waiting for that fucking Mandalore video)

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

A little bit of Populous 3 too.

[@Jankyito]

The best upcoming rts is without a doubt, Beyond All Reason. Open source, free, a million QOL improvements like units can be automatically added to control groups, right click drag to split units, an actually interesting water combat. Syper well optimized, you can have literal thousands of units without drops in frame rate. And more unique units that even SC2. The devs are looking to finish a campaign mode before releasing it on steam, but you can play it right now.

[@mikeshivak]

100% agree. Idk how it's still slept on by old sc2 content crowd. I'm assuming they don't know how to transition from 1v1 mindset. Partially in presentation, like... maybe they feel they need to be center of attention and streaming from a teammate pov, and while learning instead of teaching. It's easier to have things to talk about when you know what you are talking about

[@leosmart116]

@@mikeshivak Nah thats not it, I cant figure out the macro in bar

[@SeekerMissile]

horrible balance and too many abusable mechanics

[@pierroulechou]

game look like made in 1980, not sure what youre talking about, nobody gonna play that, units way too small

[@seannewell397]

just looked it up, they have a nice web page, but i need to watch _several_ 1v1 games b4 taking something seriously as a new sc2. It looks like it's OSS for sure lol. Maybe the mechanics and vibes I'm about to experience are top notch but first bat it is giving PA not sc2 or even sg.

[@severijndw]

Tried the demo of this a while ago and got the retail version later. It was really fun. Glad to see it get some attention!

[@rofkec]

Wow. As a dev myself, I must applaud this team-of-2 for what they achieved. It's massive amount of work, and so very well executed. Truly inspiring, wow! This game just broke the no. 1 spot for me for the upcoming games! Btw, I think that distributing production between multiple selected buildings is an easy fix - so if they see this, they'll patch it 100%

[@lukex1337]

5 seconds after match starts = yes. Looks way better 😎

[@Celedan]

made by 2 people btw, slow development, and they dont have 40 mill XD

[@Zeraltz]

After watching 15 minutes of your video I can say for sure that yes, this is better than stormgate. also taking into account they don't have 40 mill or even a development team, just 2 passionate guys doing the best they can, and it is insanely good

[@hounddogzepp]

8:40 just want to mention that multi-queue was added with the most recent update, so this issue is fixed.

[@grottoguru6473]

Wow. This looks a million times better than stormgate. It's inspiried and not forced

[@TurkeyMeat]

It's inspired in the sense that it looks like updated warcraft 3, I feel like stormgate has a lot more clearly original aspects. This game does look better though lol.

[@lexist7]

I dint hate storm gate but it just LOOKS ugly. If the medium is VIDEO game, the visuals need to be decent. It makes whatever progress to gameplay negligible because you can’t get past the first batrier of visual appeal.

[@grottoguru6473]

@@lexist7 Agreed. It looks older than SC2!

[@retrocomputing]

@@lexist7the stormgate gameplay reveal video looked good. They downgraded visuals for some reason

[@Rourobourous]

So glad to see you branching out more. keep it up!

[@CobusGreyling]

Holy crap where did this come from? This looks incredible.

[@wwld9823]

on one hand stormgate has an easier to use UI to mass produce units fast without having to click on your buildings and for now it has more players on the other godsworn has heroes without a fucking paywall and looks a million times better despite being made by two passionate people

[@potenviking]

passion is something you cannot fake. SG has passion for going a lazy job and making a copy of SC2.

[@Nekoyashiki-san]

Thanks for showcasing! ^^

[@Maldor313]

The art style in this games is 10 times better than Stormgate, the style of the units in stormgate look like the toys from the movie of small soldiers and that movie is from 1998...

[@Sebastian-xy2up]

It is, because Godsworn has its own identity.

[@joaoteixeira8349]

pretty much this. stormgate just makes me wonder "why can't i play starcraft 2 instead"

[@allanshpeley4284]

Stormgate is soulless and bland. It never had a reason for existing and will soon cease to.

[@ThortheGodly]

When you set the expectations for your game sky high then you get sky high expectations from your players. I didn't ask Stormgate to make the claim that they would be "the game to bring back RTS" or something like that. They set the hype train roaring, and didn't build good tracks. All the new RTS ip's are tapping the MOBA vibe too much for me. I want to build my base, get my units, and go fight my opponent(s). I don't want to waste my time screwing around with camps. I'm not playing LoL.

[@TheRealXartaX]

It's not necessarily about "better". It's about value-proposition and expectations. Godsworn is way cheaper, doesn't want to nickel&dime you, and is just made by a couple of devs in their basement.

[@HeneryUy1010]

More Gosworn please

[@bentybursky858]

Cosmonarchy brood war. Check it out. Another good new option for people to try

[@DekayVods]

I played the open beta of this and was pretty hooked. A lot of what the community played was 2v2, 3v3 etc. and the horseman were extremely strong. not sure if this is still the case but def check them out too.

[@LukeHunter-m8v]

Great video. How would you compare Immortal Gates of Pyre to this? I personally like IGP.

[@bahadirozer]

looks beautiful

[@AtticusKarpenter]

This is have vibes of Warcraft 3/Age of Mythology, but its Baltic mythology And thats pretty neat also in some ways Baltic mythology actually closer to Eastern Slav myths than Western Slav one (like in Wither. Well, Wither is Pole (Western Slav) myths + usual Western European medieval fantasy, so a hybrid) so its feels somewhat closer for me

[@MrAndromedean]

looks fun. great colors. nice change in aesthetics away from cyber stuff (tho i love cyber). looks like the game is pvAI. would be cool to see more of this.

[@3dartquest]

This game looks like Spellforce 3

[@PhantomHarlock78]

I just wish a new RTS fast like SC2 and without heroes or control points bs.

[@tylerj3855]

Looks like a fun game! The only issue that I'd like to address is maybe a camera angle?? If you can zoom out, that'd be awesome

[@astrafaan]

Stormgate doesn't seem terrible to me (I used to play SC/SC2 a LONG time ago but they quickly both became spectator sports for me) - but it's just not great to watch really, same for the other one (with kinda quick build units - and 10 minutes of play?) forget the name though. I guess I can't really whinge from a gameplay point of view - so my angle is usually how good it is as a spectator sport now - and I've yet to see anything come close to them so far - I just hope I do as it seems SC is being pretty much dumped now. This one does look pretty cool offhand.

[@davidmoak1219]

SC2 is completely dumped, reigns handed off to community for pvp for patches and no further pve content will ever be released. Thankfully there's still the SC2 editor and it's quite a robust tool for making unique stuff. Just played Warcraft 3 undead/nigth elf campaigns... on Starcraft 2. It's literally 11/10, what Warcraft 3 should have been remade as. My only complaint is it has no custom/skirmish mode but other than that, literal perfection. Blizzard can't make good games anymore anyways nor can they be trusted with any money. That money is going to hire some fucky focus group that decides how you play a game instead of real gamers designing games. Then shareholders and investors are going to veto anything that sounds fun and doesn't make a good profit. That's a model for making money, not a model for making a good game.

[@astrafaan]

@@davidmoak1219 I remember when I was into sc2 and I was kinda stunned by the offshoots created from it - a lot of really good games - which quite frankly could probably still beat the pants off what's being produced now. Me - I'm too old and slow to compete in these sorts of games now - so as I said - I'm really looking at things from a spectator point of view.

[@owenchubb5449]

This game looks great! I want to see more of this

[@nathanpetrich7309]

8:30 call it being "roof topped"

[@StreamerBS]

i wish more games had town portal scrolls. That way if your're out on the map and the enemy jumps into your base it isn't game over.

[@wwld9823]

desu I never leave my base completely unattended, at least a few units with ranged to hold off intruders

[@Tuchajbejasyn]

Looks good but have you ever tried Beyond All reason? I stongly recommend it. maybe some cool content for the channel especially if you pair up with your starcraft partners.

[@mikeshivak]

I think pairing up with another sc2 is a great idea. I wonder if it's precieved as too far out of their comfort zone. Going from beating 3 gold players with one hand to not knowing how unit counters work might not be something they want to stream. If there's 2 of em talking about it from the same background! Maybe we can have some fun and lower pressure to perform.

[@mikeshivak]

It's a wonderful community 😊 SO refreshing

[@seannewell397]

good community bad game. (imho) reasons: 1) floaty, and un-inspired micro 2) un-manageable macro 3) over-focus on large FFA / 60v60 crap 4) terrible graphics 5) un-polished

[@sealboy1211]

It’s cool if you liked total annihilation style, but I never did. Always been a fan of the action Rts style. But my big battles happen in total war.

[@purpleisthesneakiest]

i've played a bit of stormgate a while ago and found the worker control mechanics to be INTENSELY frustrating. workers immediately returning to the shrine the moment they finish a task often added minutes onto the time it took to do anything far away from my starting position (setting up walls, towers, harvesting distant resources, erecting large production structures). i just want to be able to tell my workers to go somewhere, do something, and WAIT there until i tell them to do something else!

[@hexdoom2646]

Order them to build the old school way and they won't return to mining

[@leafykille]

Wow, this looks so much better than stormgate. And sounds better. I miss the sci-fi theme tho.

[@slowlylosingitaaaaaa]

looks like a combo of wc3 and age of empires, honestly super cool

[@snajper3152]

This game looks so good for this stage of developement

[@yordank506]

Very good video, exactly what I was looking for. The game looks very promising. I am just going to wait for it to get more content and polish and definitely am going to try it. Better to support such small teams than the greedy Stormgate's Frostgiant.

[@ElGoogKO]

Anything is better than the starcraft/warcraft clone called stormwhatever and others like that This seems to have better mechanics and ideas on how a bse is made and overall conceptof playing. With the hero and such it gives a certain dota feeling, somewhere with some age of empires mechanics. This has good potential

[@MiuMiyana]

oooh I am loving the game vibe!!

[@hoofhearted4]

I was always more of a SC person than a WC person. I played it, but never really got into it, but even then, this interests me more than Stormgate, and I'm a Stormgate backer. I backed Stormgate because I am really into SC2 Coop, and saw that was supposed to have a similar mode and cool campaign (and I love SC2s campaigns), but as of now, I guess those are really weak points to Stormgate. I'll wait to see where it ends up, but as of now, I havent even bothered playing it. All that said though, I'm not into RTSs enough to bother playing something else besides SC2. Unless a new C&C Generals comes out.

[@fishlobs]

thanks 4 showing us a new game

[@Yumari-Mai]

I have to second what other commenters said about Beyond all reason, I would definitely love it if you gave it a shot for a video at least.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

This game looks both gameplay wise and artstyle wise more creative and more fun than Stormgate. It looks like an ACTUAL spiritual successor to something like Warcraft 3 as opposed to Stormgate which is just poorly copying WC3's homework. And as many others in the comments are saying. I don't play games for the E-sport aspect, when I played SC1 (starting on the N64 mind you!) I didn't know that anyone else gave a shit about it, let alone saw it as a NATIONAL SPORT in South Korea. I thought StarCraft was super niche until about 2004. Keep in mind StarCraft 1 is my favorite game bar none.

[@Ryan-oz7ud]

Yes. Yes it is. So much fun.

[@Jabullz]

Game LOOKS better than Stormgate, the building in Stormgate looks better than this one tho, but thats an easy thing to rectify for Godsworn.

[@alsto8298]

Well, as far as we can see, this game has better graphics, better inventory, better characters, better lore and better campaign than stormgate. Still it will face oblivion because money is all that matters in modern gamedev.

[@sarfqersarweqar]

I ilke it for wc3 player feels much better then stormgate

[@DJZander01]

Looks very aoe to me which I'm not a fan of. I prefer stormgates design. Seems like I'm in the minority though 🤷‍♂️

[@againsttheleftandright4065]

Looks better than Raid Shadow Legends RTS, but not into the theme so I'll pass.

[@Codethe_Road]

Stormgate looks real shitty. You know how Blizzard pushes projects back and cancels them sometimes? Stormgate is under cooked,and poorly seasoned.

[@FF-zy1sp]

DUDE just look how units move and engage It looks "regular" at first but IT IS NOT FREAKING ICE GLIDING SLIPPERY like it is in Stormgate, units don't turn into stacking blob of a mess, and are microable and surrounable Like it's simply decent yet levels above Stormgate SOMEHOW

[@jankzgsoldier9396]

This looks waaay better! And the gameplay is much slower and more interesting

[@dudeguybro]

I think an issue currently with Godsworn is its lack of content. I know they're continuously working on it, but it has a long way to go. I enjoyed what little I played of it, however.

[@macedindu829]

I'd be interested to get your reaction to Beasty's video about his favoring AOE4. He made a lot of points about what he likes about RTS, and I'd be interested to get your input.

[@morgansteiner5823]

reminds of AOE/WC3 but with its own mechanics. Seems fun depending on what you like in a game. personally i'll stick with SG, SC2 for some 1v1 action.

[@garretwoeller7669]

tbh comp scenes show up if the game is good not because it's built for it so tbh this could be crazy for 2v2

[@momom6197]

Winter tried Beyond All Reason, it looked very fun.

[@Navhkrin]

Stormgate team was responsible for rising expectations sky high. IMO they deserve all the criticism if not more. Gamers don't forgive bullshit like "next gen RTS over SC2" only to release what could at best be SC 1.5. They should have been much more careful with their marketing if their game cannot stand candle to 14 year old game from many technical areas.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

I also do not want them to take the advice of making all the units have the same speed. we need to move faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from deathballs in RTS.

[@Marlonbc90]

10 minutes into this and I am already convinced this is better than Stormgate. I don't like Stormgate one bit

[@lazzerbear]

this looks good. can we get a tutorial.

[@hardlogic3046]

The resource gathering is much closer to the Settlers series than AoM(which is pretty much age of but better)

[@CorruptorPeste]

Waiting for it.

[@guilhermedecarvalhofernand1629]

l felt like l was watching a mix of age of mythology and warcraft 3

[@dolphincup]

My problem with the wc3 model of camps/creep that this game follows (this does look a bit better to me though) is that they provide no impetus for players to clear them until after-the-fact. The games don't guide you into it, they just expects you to know to do it. Always feels like a bunch of dudes just chilling and I'm supposed to go kill them for some reason I don't understand? If they were doing something bad, and I were prompted to stop them, it might feel a lot more natural to want to go clear them out. DOTA fixed this instantly by making enemy creep march toward you. Why aren't RTS games getting more creative with this?

[@aubreyjesseau6232]

Is the impetus to level your hero not enough? This is foundational to WC3. The entire game revolves around the creep camps you take or allow your opponent to take. You can instantly choose to creep yourself or go harass your opponent. You can be passive or greedy with the creeps you take or don’t take. You might get lucky or get punished. At least in online play, the entire game revolves around creeping and creates an absolutely brilliant dynamic.

[@dolphincup]

@aubreyjesseau6232 I'm not saying that the camps aren't gameplay relevant. I'm saying that for first-time players, there's no game mechanic that tells you to clear the first camp for the first time. For example, if there were piles of treasure scattered around the map, it would be clear and obvious for players that they should collect it. Creep is similar in functionality to treasure but doesn't have the same built-in intuition. It might sound silly, but the lack of impetus makes way for uncertain optimality. Until you've watched pro-level players who have spent years figuring it out, you'll likely never creep optimally or even close to optimally. One could argue that this "open-endedness" provides strategic diversity, but constraints are necessary for players to understand the strategic space.

[@therealmcgoy4968]

I would say godsworn is better than stormgate.

[@Vballjared95]

If you like this game, I think you would love Spellforce 3

[@kuubilal]

The camera angle feels kinda weird, no? But the rest looks fun

[@Strill_]

Game looks good overall, but those anemic animations are horrible. Those guys swing their swords at 1 mile an hour. Give the animations a long windup and cooldown, but a split-second swing.

[@danielp8433]

i definetely prefer the look of godsworn

[@marcogauden]

Answer; yes!

[@XfStef]

What is this? Budget W3?

[@HibikiDaye]

that hero ability is the same icon as the gaunt upgrade in stormgate.. so frost giant isn't even drawing their own spell icons???

[@919kawa]

Actually they happened to have bought the same icons pack, and applied colour changes for example, so ye there are similar icon between both games

[@HibikiDaye]

@@919kawa I mean that's understandable for a game like Godsworn to buy icons, but stormgate is supposed to be a AAA next gen RTS and they're just buying unity store assets? wild.

[@919kawa]

@@HibikiDaye well I don’t know what they intend to do in the future, but if they keep using these, that means an AAA designed game is indeed using bought icon packs. Pretty sure it’s not on unity store but some other « dev packs ». They might also have a mix of « hand drawn » and bought ones

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

SG is indie.

[@heathensein6582]

@@HighLanderPonyYT Lmao

[@peterjansen4826]

If you check out other RTS games anyway then why not 0ad and Beyond All Reason?

[@infinitespace8394]

i really like godsworm, sucks nobody seems to play it online. and pls people there is no way TWO people done this, maybe as main developers... but they prob have people for audio, syncro and marketing at least.

[@ANIMshit]

when i want to play online, i go to games discord and ask anyone who wants to play, discord is alive and there are allways people who wants to play

[@asdfqwerty14587]

Honestly, seeing how that game ended makes me feel like the lategame will be kind of non-existent in this game - with how quickly the shrine died, combined with the fact that your hero could teleport an army on top of the shrine if you get *any* unit to have vision over the shrine would mean that you can just instantly end the game at almost any moment if any units get through.. and it feels like it would be realistically impossible to prevent that from happening, so most games probably just end abruptly if they make it to that stage of the game. Granted you already had a really big lead over the opponent so it's not really that fair of an example, but it's not like it was a build that was optimized for rushing the shrine down like that either.

[@NeverSettingSun]

I am someone who played the multi-player and can answer some of it. Yes, this hero in particular was a bit of a problem in 2v2, in 1v1 it was fine, as getting to level 7 is very hard, AI feeds you units, but players don't. Still, while playing, players started to put different in game win condition "Kill hero and shrine at the same time " and it fixed the problem.

[@SvenStyle15]

The gameplay is quite funny but i pref storm gate to this in pvp especially because of the superior controls. Godsworn has some nice ideas regarding controls but stormgate controls (+ auto hot key units) are awswome after a few games getting used to them. The campain of Godsworn is actually better then stormgate, no offense frost giant but you should fokus on pvp for now a low budget campain doesnt suite you well :D

[@Leonhart_93]

Yeah, well the kicker here is that it's not free to play, like some of these other titles. And not 10$ either. Not sure how many will try it out.

[@Talentaire]

This game gas more "soul" and "indentity" than Stormgate. SG feels too generic, too plastic, too "Toys Rus". Seems targeted to 3 years old as first RTS.

[@hexaquras9374]

wow this looks like fantasy Battle Realms to me, if it can play on a potato PC, its automatically better than SG

[@Truck_Kun_Driver]

The moment I see the main girl in Stormgate I cannot force myself to continue playing 😂😂😂😂😂

[@devin6272]

stormgate lore and story just feels like they are doing it because its what you do and they just want to make a good esport style rts. its understandable and I'm still hopeful it will be good. I feel like what they have is really great -- if it were beta but we are in EA and there are fundamental flaws. I want to ignore them and hope it improves but they better get on the polish of a lot of things sooner rather than later. There are MASSIVE coop bugs that literally brick the game and make your units do 0 damage and take 0 damage. we can all type in chat but nothing happens other than moving and attack animations. It's a big problem. This game seems like those issue were more of a priority before things like late game tech. I would rather have a smooth feel and bare bones tech than the other way around. SC2 isn't the best RTS I'm in terms of units or dynamics I really prefer WC3 but WC3 unit control makes me tilt like no other. Stormgate has everything I wanted from WC3 in SC2 however it hasn't been implemented well as of yet with larger armies. Here is to optimism. I hope both these games flourish in their respective scenes.

[@Randy7777]

YES!!!

[@TheKamotechunks]

looks like inspired by Battle Realms in a good way.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

No, just focused on the looks before gameplay to get some early good reviews. Hare vs the tortoise and all that.