IS THE $849 HUMMER EV FOR REAL OR JUST MORE DEALER GAMES?

[@markmansel9899]

That salesman is the real deal @ 11:36-11:38. Straight up, and no BS. I like it!

[@ocmotivator]

@@markmansel9899 I agree. I couldn’t help but to like that dude. 👍

[@jwolf4948]

That is the guy I would go to if I wanted to buy an overpriced Chevy.

[@aaronfarnsworth7653]

You should roll into dealers in an old car. Doubt you'd get the reception you do when they see an exotic. They know money just rolled in so they are on their best behavior.

[@ocmotivator]

@@aaronfarnsworth7653 ya. I’ll take my old Crown Vic next weekend. Should be interesting. lol

[@bigfrogy]

I pay just under $900mo, but got zero down, first payment waived, and 12k miles a year for 3 years! Deals are out there if you look for them.

[@bdub7891]

Damn! Where was that?

[@22curbman]

@@bigfrogy what was your msrp. How much u pay for tax n registration out the door

[@bryanochoa3560]

I work over at that Tustin Buick GMC. Dealer. We have some in stock with the MSRP under $100,000 if you are still looking for that deal let me know I got you. No surprises I’m not like that. My name is Bryan and anyone looking for this deal we got a few left on 2024’s! We can probably do something similar on a 2025.

[@leepaihan]

@bryanochoa3560 Is it better to take advantage of the lease deal or purchase with the 60 months 0% right now?

[@bryanochoa3560]

@ if you are new to the EV world I would highly recommend take advantage of the lease special, so you get to experience the EV world and if it is not for you then at least you do not have to be committed to it.

[@leepaihan]

@@bryanochoa3560 You're at the Tustin GMC right? I'm located in Irvine. Interested in possibly doing a test drive.

[@bryanochoa3560]

@ yes sir come on down. I treat everyone here like family.

[@jbcope1000]

The truck has a cool look. Too bad they didnt do a hybrid V8 or a diesel

[@ocmotivator]

Right!? Could you imagine if they put a big v8 or diesel in it. They’d sell the heck out of them.

[@schawn4925]

I wanna crawl like a crab tho

[@aaronbritt2025]

@@ocmotivator Be like the return of the H1 Alpha if they put a Duramax in it.

[@aone7640]

If they put the LT2 vette engine will be the best vehicle GM ever made. GM can make a Picasso but purposely ruined it by letting a cocker spaniel drop a couple of turds that’s the ev engine for you

[@1812usmc]

Not putting 7k on any lease

[@jeffnoob8448]

So 7k down and 1k a month for 800 miles a month available miles ? 😅😂

[@llcross04]

@@jeffnoob8448 All signs point to NO. 800 miles per month means its always going to be parked!

[@jeffnoob8448]

@@llcross04 agreed

[@Papolucho702]

My wife and I test drove a GMC Sierra diesel with offroad package. I truly, truly liked it. I wanted it but it was way too expensive even with $4k down and 12k in incentives. Apr was 12> and yes, I was carrying some negative equity, but the trade in appraisal was absolutely horrendous. It was 5-6k under what I thought it would be, but dealer actual cash value is what it is. We decided to just not do it. $10k down would’ve made things closer to where we wanted to be but I just didn’t have it.

[@Mfields4517]

@@Papolucho702 you dont have 10k and youre shopping for an offroad diesel 😂

[@maxamillion5711]

I tried to buy it as well here in Austin Texas these dealers playing games as well .

[@John_Caravella]

A big, overweight and overpriced EV. Well, the silver lining here is that anyone planning to buy the new Charger EV can take the Hummer for a test drive so they'll know exactly how the upcoming Charger will handle.

[@ocmotivator]

@@John_Caravella 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

[@TKsGarage]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nickdadras553]

Lmao 🤣

[@ramhistorymaker]

Hey @ocmotivator, this is my first time commenting but I’m a long time viewer. I have a Hummer EV SUV in the Orange Afterburner Tintcoat you like, I also have a Widebody Scatpack Challenger in F8 Green. I live in California and those ads frustrate me all the time. I definitely didn’t get a deal like that. I see some folks on facebook forums in other states getting pricing like those ads, but in CA those deals will never happen even with a base model which is still $100k+. Our taxes and fees kill all hopes of these types of deals. Keep up the great content.

[@chrisj6917]

@@ramhistorymaker Leasing a 3X with full warranty coverage (rim protection also) for $968. And we had $3500 negative equity in our trade. These deals DO exist (we’re also in CA), but you have to do some serious legwork. We put $5k down and the dealer had a MASSIVE rebate ($13,750) because it was a 2024.

[@legendofpanda926]

Its definitely real. Just got a 2025 2x suv demo a couple weeks ago, $1600 due at signing $849 a month tax included. U pick the one you want, they demo it for 30 days/under 3000 miles and u get a hugeee discount.

[@kerrywillisjr.5845]

@legendofpanda926 ...Facts!! Got mine too...Love it!!!

[@slin4013]

What dealership and town is this?

[@lsufan861]

Where do you charge on the road???

[@frankvanfossan]

The old dealer bump...damn the only thing better would have been the 4 square worksheet!

[@gary-hc6hh]

Here in massachusetts 110k 2024 hummer EV . NO Money down and GMC making first payment . 36-month lease 12k miles per year. $1057 a month. Fact

[@rapidblueisthenewblack4463]

Wow! Which dealer?

[@jimmycline4778]

WOW what a deal 😏

[@davidgreen7264]

Hello everyone, I'm a disabled veteran, in St Louis MO. I went mid September to see if the $4700 down $850 a month for 36 months was for real on the 2024 EV Hummer 2X ( base model) was for real. AND AFTER 6 HOURS OF NEGOTIATION, I TRADED MY WORN OUT 2011 Ford pickup for $6000, AND I GOT AN AMAZING DEAL ON THE 2025 PICKUP 2X BASE MODEL, WINDOW STICKER AT 99,465.... I PAY $1050 A MONTH FOR 36 MONTH 10,000 MILES PER YEAR. CRAB WALK AND ALL. AND WITH THE LEASE MY PLATES WERE INCLUDED. NOT HAVING TO PAY AROUND $10,000 IN SALES TAX😊. AND NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THE "WATTS TO FREEDOM" FEATURE. IT'S AMAZING......

[@jhill6033]

wow Im in St Louis too, I work at GM Wentzville. Im thinking of buying this. So is the 2x still pretty fast?

[@davidgreen7264]

@jhill6033 very fast

[@JFitness88]

That’s only being able to drive it 800 miles a month though. For a thousand dollars a month that doesn’t sound great.

[@JonathanMorgan-u6s]

It's definitely real, I got a 3X SUV with 5k down for the advertised 899. In Dallas , 2 weeks ago at Sewell GMC.

[@SteveGOML]

Yours lying because even with the 899 there is tax on that so I know you are lying

[@gn4life84]

State sales Tax and registration fees are not included. Called and spoke to this dealership myself

[@jpride1127]

@@SteveGOML LOL weird, I know a lot of people who have gotten in the 800s

[@kevinlucas8437]

I know it's not a smart purchase, but I've always wanted one !!! I just love the freaking look !!!!! The fact you can get one for even a grand.

[@MtnBadger]

No crap from me on crab-walking, I was a munitions systems specialist in the Airforce and we used "tugs" with crab steering every day to haul trailers of munitions, push things around, etc.. I also spent a lot of personal time in the Utah deserts off roading. Crab steering is really useful if uou actually *drive* the vehicle in extraordinary conditions and having a civilian truck that crabs is terrific, especially with larger trucks in tighter spots. The most *fun* we had with them is when we came back to the shop to park at end of shift and we'd all head for a parking space, crank the wheel, hit the lever (independent rear steering) and throw them sideways into a parking space, at speed and see who could slide into their spot the straightest to the lines. 😂 If you're actually going off road and into tight spots, crab is useful but who's taking a $150k vehicle into the rocks and trees?? If your pulling a trailer of some sort and hit some tight spots then, *occasionally,* having "crabability" lets you maneuver and line up & hook-up or park a little easier, great... Other than that, it's just strictly a toy to show off when you park it at the club in front of "the boys." 😊 I doubt it's independent, from what I've seen I'd imagine you hit a switch and then either tighten your radius or side-slide it, both commensurately with the turn of the wheel. (Does it only slide or can you steer the opposite direction to tighten the turning radius? That's the most helpful). The "slide only" crabbing would be "better than nothing" but not optimal for true, four wheel steering. Having a lever and manually controlling the direction and degree of crab is ideal to take advantage of the system *but,* it's confusing at first, takes two hands to operate and takes some time to master... I could see it now, people sliding into other cars in Sam's Club parking lots all the time. 😆 As I say, it's a novel concept and useful, in theory but in a civilian configuration, it's mostly a toy to show off on the boat ramp, trying to line up your trailer. There's *no way* im paying $150-200k for an electric Hummer. The one place you'd really need it is the one place you wouldn't go, way off road up in the mountains or out in the desert somewhere. Runout of charge because you're slow-crawling around and using extra juice everytime you crab walk and finding yourself stranded until the helicopters find you is *not* how I'd like to spend my vacation.

[@3brothersrc418]

A couple of things. First of all, I appreciate you trying to see how "real" the offer is. Before I bought my BMW I found the same thing. And that is unrealistic prices simply lure you in. However I will say that the Hummer EV is proven to have a range as claimed. Also, camping with one towing a trailer is very doable. And no, you won't run out of battery unless you are very naive, and so you would with petrol also. I have an H2, and the Hummer EV has a better range. It's definitely a cool toy, and probably my next purchase, after depreciation 😊

[@anton3ooo]

I got 849 a month with 15k miles. 5k down plus 2k in equity from a Silverado lease. 2X pickup though, not the 3X

[@giovanni4304]

Deals are out there, mine is being shipped Tuesday. 2024 2x SUV 36 mo lease 12k/miles a year, zero due at signing, $6500 below MSRP, $7500 ev credit and my payment is $920 a month. Not a huge EV fan but this is a good price 🤷

[@ronwinn879]

@@giovanni4304 Did you order it or just go through dealership? That is a great price

[@giovanni4304]

@@ronwinn879 through a dealership, I think as we head into November there's going to be even better deals. I'm still seeing a ton of 24 models for sale and the 25 models have already rolled out some time ago.

[@dancingbear2005]

@@giovanni4304 would you mind sharing your dealer info? Would like to see about a deal as well.

[@giovanni4304]

@dancingbear2005 Laura Buick GMC based out of Illinois, sales rep I dealt with is George. I'm not seeing any lease deals though, looks like they expired in October and now GM is offering 60mo 0%apr

[@stepheno.2730]

That hummer EV is just baller. I love it

[@danielfair4675]

Yep, a junkballer

[@JoshCota]

It can be done. Just figure an extra $260 or so per month for tax, title and license. GM is advertising $849/month for 36 months. With $5k down, you'd be around $1100 a month. That's for the base 2x hummer ev truck.

[@ThePoolboy789]

a base hummer is pretty well equipped to be fair

[@michaelwarner2434]

Saw a couple of strippo Hummers at santa monica gmc. Around 91k with ev credit

[@drdetroitwheels]

Brad I can't agree with you on that lambos or better than Ferraris and in the words of ferruccio Lamborghini you drive a Ferrari when you think you're somebody but you own a Lamborghini when you know you're somebody

[@ocmotivator]

lol. Love it! The Ferrari guys always look down on us Lamborghini folk at the car meets while wearing their turtlenecks. lol.

[@dmrobello9441]

I've been to both in Italy. Lamborghini were incredibly kind, classy, hard working, down to earth people. I had fun there. Ferrari, was as expected. Those same emotions are the soul of those cars.

[@UnbeatenPath1]

Ferrari as a company is way more douchy

[@bluedabear]

I leased my $105k Quad Motor Rivian for $703/month. It's great for daily. States 350 miles and I get 350. $5k for taxes

[@jimsteinway695]

I have two friends in Cali one has the Rivian truck the other has the SUV. They both say the best they get combined driving is 270 miles. You must have got a special battery

[@bluedabear]

@jimsteinway695 They bought Dual Standard which is the base model. I got a Quad Large last year which was there biggest battery. They have one now that gets 420 miles

[@llcross04]

What was the full down payment?

[@bluedabear]

@llcross04 $0 down. $5k was taxes and fees. Delivery was $1000 which could be easily saved by picking the car up.

[@kidamere2408]

@jimsteinway695 or your friends have no ideal they come with bigger batteries

[@BBDragon66]

I'd much sooner get the 392 Rubicon over a Hummer ICE or EV.

[@gordongragert3399]

This is why I bought a used 2022 Jeep Wrangler with only 2900 mile on it, 2 Dr 4 cly turbo for a every day driver in Arizona. Oh & still have my 2022 SP in my garage with 1500 miles. Go MOPAR or no car.

[@03kwam65]

No reason to flex that junk not tryna b fucked up but we both kno..

[@kyleharper9325]

We just leased a 24 3x suv in new York with 1000 down for 700 a month

[@michaeln4018]

Deception in advertising. That’s a sign of a company I want to purchase from.

[@charleskennedy1150]

What the salesperson was trying to say is that they're marking these things up way too much for you to find one close to MSRP 😂

[@markjacksonmusic21]

Im looking to lease one, 15k miles a year would be great at that promo rate. 3k down at most. Costco has a 1k off incentive to.

[@wdyerz]

Great video. You should do more of these, looking at other brands.

[@jhill6033]

why would you not use the electric vehicle as your daily driver? Daily driving is where the savings come in. It makes zero sense to spend that kind of money on an EV if your not going to take advantage of the savings at the pump. That gas truck should be the one you drive on the weekends to the mountains. If you drive less than 300 miles a day, the EV is where its at because you charge up over night at your home.

[@TKsGarage]

I need to test this out. Lol

[@venom5809]

I would love to meet the person who actually got one for that price. LOL

[@channell11]

It's definitely doable. I've seen another dealer advertising between $1000 and $1100 on well-equipped 3X models with no money down and 6500 discount. I looked at the numbers and it assumes a residual of around 81K. I think that's optimistic given the depreciation of electric vehicles, but whatever.

[@jonjon0718]

You saved me a bunch of time. Thank you! I was going to do what you did. I thought it was too good to be true.

[@dustincollins16]

They cant give those things away. My local dealer has had one on the lot for like 8 months now. No one wants it

[@cactneir]

Nope. No car is worth $100k especially with Chevy dealerships having brand new rusty away vehicles at the dealership lot. Can i get a hell no😂

[@rudykr3oc]

I liked the last salesman Brad. Definitely get the steering wheel option lol

[@ocmotivator]

@@rudykr3oc lol. Me too. Straight go to the point and no jerking around. 👍

[@johncoinas]

The dealers do that with every vehicle. Theres a national promo but no dealer ever has the specific spec. They make money on options

[@nosivo13]

Thanks for vid’. I already thought $850.00 was much for a lease but now this seals my decision to definitely not get it

[@dmfp]

72 miles a day is way more than 10,000 miles a year. How is that even possible? Do they do that so they can get you on the mileage later?

[@llcross04]

The average would only be 27 miles per day

[@dmfp]

Thats almost 72... Just backwards lol

[@osvalditochirino3428]

365

[@ajayjabaieh]

Killed it bro

[@Ereyner426]

I drink beer from a can...I drive a lambo

[@jayahir-xj2jw]

Man thinking about leasing one but definitely not wanting to put 10k down just to around $800 a month

[@BrooklynLove-s2p]

Thanks for making this video, found it helpful.

[@itzyaboybugz]

They are $20K over sticker at GMC dealer I just left I’m paying more than that for my ID.4 🤦‍♂️

[@TexasSteele67]

It's gotta be real- Here in Musk-ville (Austin) they are popin' up everywhere - I'm on the list fer a ZR1 and prices are gettin' so low on the Z06's I may pick one up while I'm waitin

[@brianbdawg3059]

That’s not a steal shit

[@heftex8339]

I'd get one. If you PAID ME $849 a month to take it.

[@sirgardensalot]

Lucid has good lease deals on the Grand touring amazing range interesting to test drive one and compare it to the Tesla

[@ocmotivator]

@@sirgardensalot yes they do. I’ve read a lot about them and even visited their showroom in LA. Another scam company. CEO made $379mil and the company has never and will never achieve profit. Keep taking money from the Saudi’s with another $1.5billion cash infusion otherwise it was headed to BK. Why would the Saudi’s support electric cars? But aside from all the bad business metrics, as great as the Lucid is, they don’t have their own supercharger network and will piggyback on teslas which is going to increase the log jam and wait time to get into Tesla chargers which should be a disaster. And these luxury EV’s beg the question “why would you buy or lease a $100k ev to SAVE money on gas, when you could buy a Tesla for $45k”. The depreciation is going to be over 50% almost immediately on them so leasing is the only way to go if you want one.

[@gsmoneygsmoney1479]

Awesome Thank you

[@gwilson664]

Who the hell is driving 200 miles a day in their work truck on avg. I don't understand why he said you can't use it for work. No one who can afford that is hanging with the OT crew.

[@asnpcwiz]

I actually got a better deal in VA. 2025 with 3x motor, which has some upgraded features over the 2X. $950 a month before taxes, tags and everything rolled into it.

[@Dryloch]

Tempe Buick GMC in Arizona has one of the orange pickup super base models in stock.

[@nross33]

I went to Costa Mesa Cadillac/GMC and Tustin Cadillac/GMC here by me in Southern California, for $850 for a lease, ya I’d do it. Ya, all dealer games lol

[@drdetroitwheels]

Hey Brad cars that usually have that kind of vinyl wrapped around it are usually prototypes yeah I know it's that strange white and black vinyl

[@ocmotivator]

Ya. Not the case on that one though. 👍👍

[@alexandervalentine4956]

It’s BS I went to a dealer with the exact car specs/pricing quoted on the national deal for $849 a month. They told me it would be $1080 a month with 11,000 down and my $4,000 trade 💀

[@haveagoodday5148]

100l for a hummer GM has lot their mind

[@jimsteinway695]

The EV market has collapsed. Just saw a $160 Tesla plaid for $60,000

[@4mulaBaby]

@@jimsteinway695 msrp on a plaid is $83K

[@kurpal8904]

Car broker should be able to get that deal? I’ve seen some reputable brokers offer similar deals.

[@SilverFatBoy]

*batteries not included... 🤣🤣

[@daviescott1406]

NOPE, I still don't want it.😂

[@sirgardensalot]

And that is why they have so many gathering dust on the lot

[@sirgardensalot]

I think that's something that you probably have to get on the phone and start calling dealers Ford do the same you'll see a really good price for the F-150 lightning and all it is bait and switch personally if I was leasing a car I would put nothing down there are some good lease deals out there for EV'S and you don't have that you are going to lose 20% as soon as you take it off the lot or even more and when you look at some of the used prices on some of these top cars like Mercedes Audi e-tron or GT Porsche taycan they are half price

[@MachoMateoMuchacho]

My local dealer has one in a god-awful turquoise color for $929 but there are a dozen of the overpriced stickers on the lot and I havent seen a single one of them move.

[@orangemoonfly]

@@MachoMateoMuchacho turquoise?? Where pls?

[@OG_ArthurSlugworth]

Those jeeps aren’t deals at 10k off… they are 40k over priced to begin with.

[@brutusballer24]

Why is everyone complaining about the sound from Dodge when Hyundai Ioniq has sound to there ev "N" package? I digress!!

[@daytonaguy3584]

@@brutusballer24 because the dodge is supposedly a muscle car

[@megatrolltrollington]

Well qualified means 800‐850 credit score generally

[@aaronbritt2025]

"Well qualified" usually means 760 score (according to my finance manager friend). My credit union gives it's best rates at 720. The $849/$899 deals are for a base truck/SUV with zero options. Adding options increases the payment. Oh, and there are NO EV mandates making consumers buy EV's. The mandates require production of EV's, but you're free to not buy one.

[@briandonald]

Also, "well-qualified" often means employee discount for buyers who work for the manufacturer. They're really big on that here in the Detroit market.

[@G82Watts]

Hummer is super badass. Best looking EV truck by a mile.

[@HeadStronger-HS]

1k a month for a lease? Why not just set your money on fire.

[@drdetroitwheels]

Did you ever find out whether that vinyl car was a prototype that's what it looks like to me believe me when I tell you I've seen prototypes and I'm sure you have to great video

[@ocmotivator]

Thanks! And no, that car was an older car with chopped up vinyl on it for sure.

[@maximus4everjay119]

I think the 2nd dudes' numbers were off. $1200-1400 with 10K down is off. 10k down gets u down to approx the base price, which is based on the $850 a month. So how is ur payment $1200-$1400? I dont think $850 @ month is realistic but i think around $1K is possible. Which is what the 1st dealership alluded to.

[@bluedabear]

@maximus4everjay119 Leases are based off residual and money factor

[@maximus4everjay119]

​@bluedabear so ur saying I'm wrong ?

[@bluedabear]

@maximus4everjay119 considering money factor is almost 10% and residual is 65%. Quick calculation would be about $1350+tax

[@maximus4everjay119]

​@bluedabear accordingly to forums of some who have the vehicle, their residual was around 76%-82%, with some posting leases ranging from $1040 til $1140ish. 65% is ridiculous.

[@bluedabear]

@maximus4everjay119 I got it from Edmunds which is actual data based on current terms. As of September 5th, .00225 MF and 66% residual

[@antster7]

check inventory instead of talking to sales people. looks like there's plenty of Hummer EV SUV under 100k

[@haveagoodday5148]

178k wow gm is thrash

[@Utubeisazzho]

People bought that for 200 when new. Getting 70 on a trade lol

[@fredEVOIX]

electric offroads and trucks cannot and never will work 1) undertray shocks are expected and part of the normal life of such vehicles if yours is even slightly scratched it becomes an uninsurable fire hazard and you will have to replace the battery for 50-60% of the car price 2) batteries don't like shocks or being shaken also normal lifecycle of an offroad aside from that unless all you want is to rent a car that you will dump nobody should ever "buy" a car with 7000$ and 1200$ a months thats madness all the cars I bought I had at least 33% down when not 50% if you can't you're out of your league

[@bluedabear]

@fredEVOIX lol tell that to Rivian. Their vehicles are amazing offroad and stand up to Jeeps with no problem. I have a skidplate front to back and height can be raised on the fly.

[@haveagoodday5148]

Why should be pay more for EV why they are so expensive How is this better for america

[@recoilrob324]

Take a Hummer camping? Then take a generator along with you and if you need to charge you're set. But burning gas in a generator pollutes a ton more than just burning it in an ICE vehicle so what's the point?

[@bluedabear]

EVs are actually great for camping. Because you are usually offroading at a slower speed range is great. You use about 10% a day so if you travel 100 miles to campsite you'd have about a week.

[@JFitness88]

@@bluedabearadding any camping gear and weight to an EV will kill range though.. You’re not pulling a camper very long with these things.

[@bluedabear]

@@JFitness88 adding a few hundred lbs to a 10k lb car kills the battery?

[@ziggyandi8235]

Love the video, buddy

[@Sean.21Miles]

Try to come with honda Civic to the dealer 😂😊

[@demodafeeling]

I don't want it even for free

[@osvalditochirino3428]

In 5 years that will be 20k ish

[@jmcc9954]

Thanks for the Vid, very informative. Know we know it's just lies

[@brianbdawg3059]

These dealership are out of their fucking minds

[@raymondreiff8170]

So the last Guy tells you what's actually going on, Stupid AD gets you in for a rip off of a lifetime 😅. Say NOoooOO to EV's

[@christopherkeene3647]

But y’all keep advertising for them and buying them 🎉

[@prodeq12]

Why do you say there is an EV mandate? I heard a few people mention the mandate is unconstitutional but from my understanding the EPA has a goal they want to reach by 2030 but I don’t see anything about a mandate.

[@thorpower1015]

Biden has mandates in place google em

[@SHUB281]

The Ole rope-a-dope. "Deals " are for the one that doesn't exist.

[@christopherbell7655]

OC if you want a toy go buy a used TRX

[@joselon23]

Costa mesa the worse dealer they exaggerate the mark up price!!! I rather go to tustin instead 👍👍

[@lsufan861]

You lose your ass as soon as you drive any car off the lot, so that point is useless.

[@jimmycline4778]

Only 849 a month LOL!!

[@lsufan861]

That’s California for ya, dump state 🙌🙌🙌

[@ferrari4958]

Did the salesman know you were filming? If not he probably got fired as soon as you posted the video

[@ocmotivator]

For what? What did he say wrong? He was actually amazing and honest and if I were to buy one of these I’d definitely go back to him since he didn’t try to jerk me around and stuff me into a $1500 payment.

[@thecaptain2118]

No, what he did was turned you off the sale. Clearly, you are interested in one, and his response pushed you right out the door. Lol; you were walking away before you finished the conversation; you completely shut down further convo. No one deals with lot sales anyway. You probably know this well, but if you email the Internet sales/lease folks, and simply state what you want to get the deal, it takes away the b.s. If they want the sale; if they can do the deal, they'll commit in writing to that deal. I have never walked into a dealership without my deal already completely worked out via email. I always buy under invoice, and I have never been jacked around about a written deal. I've purchased 10+ vehicles this way. I think you easily get a $999 (all in) lease, pushing a deal through the Internet (same down).

[@Anthony-np5td]

Love being this early 🦦