Is the Air Force getting beards before the Army?

[@njasanie23]

Allowing beards will literally boost morale and will allow more people to join get rid of that traditional nonsense every other military in other countries have beards and are still professional

[@TheMartinez09]

Right, Thank u 🙏🏾

[@ryanbigio6834]

Just let people grow beards!

[@jthavorn]

Here comes all the “hair force” jokes. 🤟

[@rossgruenberg9700]

Lol 😂

[@marshalltille7770]

Nice. Air Force was CHAIR force in the 90’s. Mad respect for them to be fair.

[@GiuseppeDeRosa2001]

If the airforce allows beards I’m going to be pissed off 😂

[@steveurbach3093]

We were allowed beards in the Navy in the late 60's-early 70's (Adm Zumalt era). You had to get it approved (you needed a new ID card) as long as your job did not need a clean shave (mask seal). Neat was required. Mine was under 2" . My shipmates called it an 'Abe Lincoln' style.

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

Some Sub mariners are allowed longer hair and beards, at the captians' discretion, while the sub is underway and no media is on board. But they must have a clean shave and a hair cut before pulling into port. One of my friends was a sub mariner and he would look like a full mountain man by the time their sub was pulling in to port. At that point though, he would just take out his clippers and buzz everything off his head and face.

[@legoworksstudios1]

If I could grow a beard in the Army I'd be playing with different styles from Happy Gilmore Ben Stiller to Burt Reynolds to Teddy Roosevelt. Maybe Dennis Weaver McCloud. Basically I want an excuse to grow a longer and more impressive mustache.

[@joshtwyman6319]

If the army does get beards me personally I will still shave since I don’t think I look good wiry facial hair or like them. But if others want them they should be able to

[@LuckyAJC]

it's the stepping stone we need

[@chippzlemonz]

Having a beard should be a god given right

[@Envious__]

They Air Force once again proves itself superior to the other branches

[@ubcroel4022]

So true.

[@Mexican_Loko]

Hoah

[@blakedrew2772]

Chairforce *

[@allenhardwick7527]

They should go by case by case to the person . No grizzly bear beard or wild bush man.

[@thomask5038]

God have mercy on the Officer and NCO corps of the Army if the AF and Star Fleet are allowed to have beards and Soldiers can't.

[@sleeknoise9491]

Star fleet lmao 😂😂😂😂😂 gold

[@lelandgaunt9985]

The chairforce will definitely get it first.

[@jonathanwstx]

I heard the AF is cutting their tuition assistance..any truth behind that ?

[@WhereDaAuntiesAt]

i hope they authorize beards one day in the army, tired of looking 17 😂

[@waltbury]

I think the Air Force requires higher test scores to enlist vs the Army. I know of several persons who want to join the Air Force, but could not score high enough to make the cut.

[@christopherchaos]

Actually the Army and Air Force both require a 31 AFQT score on the ASVAB. The Marines and Navy are the ones that require a higher AFQT score on the ASVAB to join.

[@waltbury]

Thanks, That was not the case, when my son joined the Air Force in 2008. Take Care and keep making the great videos.

[@zoy13]

@@christopherchaos Can I still switch branches of

[@koualee4645]

@@zoy13 as long as you haven't shipped to basic or boot, you should be able to change branches

[@alanalonso6082]

@@christopherchaos Depends on recruitment needs. It varies often. Usually steeper curve to join the AF, not to mention lifting requirement. 31 seems pretty low too, but that's just to join, not necessarily to land the job of your liking.

[@imterrence1500]

It’s crazy how women can have frosted tips and nails but men can’t have beards

[@TheFroVeN]

Welp glad I'm in the airforce

[@mortdemott5786]

What, no dry shaving in the field?

[@sparrowJ09]

Sure will save you money on shaving equipment, stuff has gotten ridiculously expensive to shave 🪒. As long as the Airmen keep it well groomed and trimmed then growing a beard shouldn’t be an issue. Personally I think it does help lift one’s self esteem due to the fact that most men do get really bad skin irritation and having a nice groomed and trimmed beard does help you hide it better in order to give it time to clear up. Yeah, absolutely grow a decent regulation allowed beard.

[@frederickmintah9784]

Please I need information about the army can anybody help me out please

[@blackbeatsentertainment]

Don’t mind the hands and pockets and phone thing, (we all know certain people still do it 👀) but I need…my beard…it’s honestly a waste of time trying to get ready and having to shave all over and checking to make sure there’s no strays, and the moment I saw females could have pony tails ??? I knew there needed to be a change. I’m pretty sure I heard SF keeps beards in the field, it’s all been proven there’s a number of times that having long hair can get caught in stuff, nobody is really trying to use chemical WF anymore anyway, I think we should just have it. Next to good pay, that’s all I want.😂

[@juliusdream2683]

Chris having a short beard would be great. But the walking and talking might embarrass the beach by embarrassing themselves like walking into a tree . And the hands in the pockets. There making our military weak. Shit you should’ve seen the Army in 1995 .

[@wins9310]

Well if Air Force allows beards and army doesn’t my next few years will be spent with them 😬

[@israteeg752]

I served in the Israeli military at a time when everyone was allowed to grow beards, not the case anymore. Aside from the actual freedom of choice grated, it was a huge benefit during the early stages of basic because shaving for inspection each morning was one less thing to worry about. The drawback kicked in with chemical warfare training later on , notably a long-standing issue where facial hair obstructs a gas mask's seal. According to my personal experience, even if you can get beyond this. facial hair will still cause your vision to be obscured in combat circumstances , or even training , due to the excessive steam produced by a common standard issue gas mask. This can be detrimental in such scenarios.

[@abubbam]

Need to allow full long beards

[@MaximusMongoose]

The U.S. Air Force usually adopts a lot of new things before the Army does the Air Force were the first ones to get the M16 before the Army did the Air Force were the first ones to get the M4 before the Army did. Then the Air Force were the first ones to adopt the new female Army grooming standards before the Army did. lol

[@derricklockett9965]

The only branch of service you can compare a soldier to was a Marine, do to the mission and skill set, but now you can't do that either. I was thinking recently that I've never seen a fat Marine. They are typically squared away as a service.

[@MaximusMongoose]

@@derricklockett9965 What does this have to do with beards?

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

I would want the option to simply have longer hair, within reason, instead of a beard.

[@golfery5119]

not beards, but I've seen air force dudes with some much sweeter looking mustaches compared to army guys.

[@redce8202]

Just give us the option to have beards man it’s so dumb

[@lordsteppergod7269]

My beard hair looks like pubic hair

[@xymos7807]

I don't care if beards are never ever allowed in the military. It really doesn't effect me. Because, in the end, we should all look similar in uniform. THAT said, I find it offensive that only specific people(not including the shaving profile holders) are allowed to have beards when other groups aren't because of some exemption. Make it across the board or enforce the regulation as it is written with no exception.

[@josephgaray6933]

Just let everyonr have a beard already. I dont like to grow my beard, but shaving every day has more negatives than positives.

[@xymos7807]

@@josephgaray6933 That's what I'm saying. Either everyone or no one. Stop picking and choosing.

[@Siegefya]

@@xymos7807 you're talking about SOF I'm guessing.

[@LazuliRose]

As a current army pvt I will say the whole phone walking talking thing is to much. It is about discipline and how proffesional we look. Air force is about technology and stuff like they it seems down their alley to be busy on their phones what not lol.

[@MariNate1016]

Army still clears imo

[@larnewman3009]

The RAF authorised beards in 2019. It's great Hahaha

[@jurban611]

Notification platoon.

[@Siegefya]

When I think about us military and beards...I think about GWOT and SOF... mainly SF, CAG, CIA ground branch/SAC etc...then the rest of SOF. Now the why...why did they do it during gwot? Well the CIA guys were doing it first in Afghanistan because they were embedded with their Islamic assets, they did it to fit in and make it more comfortable because in that culture/religion...men grow beards, the best they can... doesn't matter if it's a patchy beard or super bushy beard. That's where all the photos started coming out of the SF guys with their ODA and indigenous forces, and having beards. Then the rest of SOF started poping up in photos with them...SEAL etc, it became less about fitting in with indigenous friendly forces and more about "hey we are cool guys, unconventional warriors, we have relaxed grooming standards" people gotta be honest, that's what it became about even in SF, because these guys would do it even when they'd deploy to places that didn't have a lot of Islamic influence like the guys who go to south America and partner with them, or the ones who would go to southeast Asia where most of them Asian men there can hardly grow facial hair. I think it should be a field/Garrison thing like you brought up. And that's how it usually is in SF.... Special Forces guys can grow their sht out when they are In the field and or deployments...but in garrison they shave it all off and come back to standards. I'm really not sure man. I knew one guy who had a chit for shaving because shaving caused him really bad ingrown hairs, and I mean terrible...this guy has a problem, he'd still get hair bumps because he had to keep it trimmed pretty low still and that in of itself would give him bumps. And I remember sitting and talking to him one day just kicking the shit and a company gunny walked past who didn't know us and he looked once, then twice and he was on both of our asses in a couple seconds had us both at attention my guy was trying to tell him he had a chit and he just kept yelling then he yelled at me and tried to accuse me of having a bad shave...which was impossible because at 19 I literally couldn't grow any facial hair and I'd still shave lol. Anyways he finally was able to pull his no shave chit out and show him...and it's the first time he'd ever actually seen one...this is a gunnery sergeant with a lot of time in...and of course he didn't apologize to either of us, he just got pissed off and walked away and said something about speaking to my friends leadership about it. Dumbest bs ever but it was funny. What ended up happening is they put him on some meds, like some cream stuff or whatever to lessen the bumps, so he had to start shaving again but the stuff worked fairly well... he'd still get some bumps but not as bad.

[@barke27barker19]

Sorry, I'm anti-beard (for any branch). I'm also anti-mustache and anti-ponytail (for women obviously). And I hated shaving too when I was active duty. But nobody should have to shave before PT.

[@crystalcox2010]

😆😆😆

[@allenmiddendorff2068]

Sorry, Old Army, No Beards.

[@ZachC-130]

Dudes had beards in the Army way before your version of "old Army"

[@tommyh.yearginjr.3773]

Next thing...shirts hanging out the breeches, then, earrings for men, then, septums, then, etc., etc.,.... I am old enough to remember when the postal service had dress standards, and that got blown away at some point. Sad, that standards are being lowered. 😕

[@supermoon1430]

You have a beard in your profile picture having a beard doesn’t interfere with the job or hurt anyone it’s one of the most wanted things

[@dozoneil1253]

They can’t even recruit people anymore, better do things that’ll make the population want to join

[@ZachC-130]

You literally have a beard... "Rules for thee but not for me"

[@Siegefya]

Firefighters definitely can't have beards, people who work in oil and gas mainly on the rigs can't have them either...why? Because facial hair breaks that seal and those people definitely need those masks. I agree, I hope they don't change it. Those standards are good for the military. I'm out, been out for a little bit (2016) . And I have a beard like you as well, but nothing I do in civilian life requires me to not have one. I wouldn't want the seal on my gas mask broken because of facial hair though in an emergency. I'm surprised SOF was able to do it, getting missions so close to the enemy in places where these people are known to use nerve gas.

[@michaelfrietdch9833]

The British military (Navy) are allowed to have a well trimmed beard. In the 70s and 80s the U.S. Navy allowed beards. Why is is the U S. Military so uptight.

[@Marc_Davila]

Airwomen are gonna start growing fumstaches JUST to flex on the men in the other branches 😂😂😂😂😂

[@thecreamofthecrop2694]

Could care less about beards….they should let us partake of the devil’s lettuce that would 100% improve morale

[@austingray6885]

As someone who used to smoke weed I do not think pot smokers should be in the service

[@derricklockett9965]

Respectfully, and this is just my opinion, what's going on? If you wanted to be an airman, sailor or now a guardian, I feel thats the branch you should have joined. This is why when comparing soldiers and marines, some people think there's no comparing the two. I envy the marines, they actually feel that they are an elite fighting force because they buy in to their traditions and they don't care what other branches are doing, they feel you should be honored to be in their beloved service and you earn the right to call yourself a marine. That being said, I'm a proud Army veteran from way back in the 80s. Back then standards were strict, but you complied with the rules and traditions, or you suffered consequences, and you learned discipline and hopefully you carried these life tools with you the remainder of your life as a person. I can recall while I was in, I was one of those very people who wished they could have a beard, but I'm glad I didn't. I'm also guilty of complaining about almost everything. It's easy to lose sight of that you're part of something bigger than yourself, you are supposed to be different than civilians, you're a soldier. I completed my active service and when I was on duty, I shaved. I became a law enforcement deputy of over twenty years with an agency with a strict shaving and uniform policy, and when on duty, I shaved. I've since retired and now I don't shave. I look back now and personally, I respect the structure, uniformity and the discipline in my life. I can appreciate that squared away look when a solider is in uniform. Also, you choose to serve in a volunteer organization with over two hundred years of traditions, some good, some not so good. To all my American army brother and sister soliders. Buy into the mission and SUCK IT UP.

[@MaximusMongoose]

Thank you for your service, sir. Traditions are only decisions that were made along time ago... You can always make new traditions. Fighting with muskets was a tradition of the continental US Army. We're not fighting with muskets any longer. So, if dress and appearance standards can be upheld with a beard, and still complete our mission to our highest capabilities, why can a soldier have a beard. As a former soldier yourself, you know that a lot of these calls are going to be made at the commanders discretion. There's still a bunch of diehard first sergeants, Command sergeant majors that are not going to let their units grow their beards. It's the same way that the army allows you to roll up your sleeves but there's some units that don't allow you to roll up your sleeves.

[@edwinlamont4187]

Good luck sealing a MOP suit with that beard.....

[@ZachC-130]

Literally never needed to wear one except for training for "just in case"

[@The_Black_Falchion]

Good luck finding a MOPP condition. Gas isn’t even being used in Ukraine, it’s not standard issue.

[@ssww3]

I would still shave just incase of a nbc attack

[@ZachC-130]

Literally a non-issue at 99% of locations.

[@ssww3]

@@ZachC-130 it's still out there look at covid and other viruses plus possibly another Gulf war situation and nukes in WW3 if it happens

[@MaximusMongoose]

But how readily accessible do you think everybody's NBC masks are...

[@frederickmintah9784]

Please I sent you a message please I need to talk with you