Is This Even Star Trek? - Section 31 Teaser Breakdown

[@jeremydoud4885]

The way I look at it is this …it’s supposed to be like a spy adventure, so one may imagine that it will lean towards that direction with standard Star Trek flare taking a back seat…but only time will tell when we all see the movie. Fingers crossed that it’ll be a great movie!

[@andrewmorris9946]

I always thought the point of a teaser was to get people hyped for the movie/series to come. But apparently it's to soften the blow for the nightmare to come.

[@LaraA55]

agreed

[@williamschweikert5492]

👏👏👏👏

[@alanphillips1610]

PLEASE Skydance, save Star Trek!!!

[@KerAvon-sk2fd]

Section 31 needs to not be obvious that they are linked to star fleet as they need to be under cover and blend into where ever they are so they can complete their mission, as the trailer seems to mention spy stuff or black operations for things that normally star fleet would not allow or want to be generally known. I remember from ds9 the character Sloan pushed thing quite far when he was dealing with Dr Bashir.

[@MovieMouseFarmgirl]

Now is as good a time as ever to try out THE ORVILLE. Their navigator (Scott Grimes) just announced at STLV they will start shooting Season 4 in January 2025.

[@williamschweikert5492]

Best news ever at THE ORVILLE resembles Star Trek as opposed to much of what is being created now. SNW is the only thing that resembles Gene Roddenberry's hopeful vision of the future. This section 31 dumpster fire is yet another example that those making NuTrek don't know what they are doing. You can't just have characters like Vulcans, humans from the mirror universe, and characters like Rachel Garrett and call it Star Trek. 😢

[@markrudd2536]

Reminds me of the 'it's a western in space' comment from the JJ Abrams reboot movies. Looks like Suicide Squad in the Star Trek Universe, intended to appeal to a potential wider audience whilst risking alienating the existing. Shame, as Georgiou was indeed a fascinating character, one of the few successes from Discovery. But this is what you get when not only were the writers and producers not born when Star Trek first hit screens, their parents, maybe even grandparents, were not yet born.

[@williamschweikert5492]

😢 What's sad is that Rick Berman is still alive. If Alex Kurtzman had any common sense he would use Berman as a consultant. Berman was mentored by Gene Roddenberry and played a major role in the creation of DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise.

[@hanumaniam]

I'm glad i lived when there was real Star Trek on TV. I'll always have that memory

[@zedoniverse]

Star Trek Cyberpunk 2077. also, this take place between TOS and TNG? Aren't the Cherons supposed to be extinct? (Black/White Aliens)

[@timmccaffrey8307]

ah who follows canon anymore...

[@zedoniverse]

@@timmccaffrey8307 Not a show for me.

[@jeremydoud4885]

@@zedoniverse maybe there’s time travel in the movie??

[@zedoniverse]

@@jeremydoud4885 I guess so, that would make sense if section 31 brought some Cherons back from before they destroyed themselves.

[@jeremydoud4885]

@@zedoniverse maybe the mission is to go back and safe the species?

[@ZeitgeistRuminator]

Looking at the trailers of Section 31 and S3 SNW sneak peak I feel there seems to be a desperate attempt to look "cool" over substance and depth. Though I'm sure it will be fun and very much feel "of the moment" and the "here and now" but I don't imagine it's going to be asking or answering any significant philosophical questions about life, the universe & everything. And I fear the pop soundtrack will date it very quickly. It doesn't scream Classic Science Fiction to me . These modern Treks are interesting curiosities but I don't particularly consider them as Star Trek in the classic sense.

[@zac8670]

Who needs philosophical questions when we have fancy lens flares. 🤦‍♂️

[@ZeitgeistRuminator]

@@zac8670 🙄🤣🤣🤣

[@admiralpegasuscc]

ill reserve judgement for now, but im not holding out much hope for it

[@kenhogg858]

Give It a chance

[@CodeBluMagik]

First and foremost, Star Trek is a morality play, set in the not too distant future. That is the thesis this video is lacking.

[@steveralston8837]

I think the question of Section 31's place in Star Trek, as well as whether this movie is anything like Star Trek, is completely moot. This is the worst trailer I've ever seen in my entire life...movie, show, game, whatever. Everyone involved in this should be fired. All the way down to the valet at Paramount. It was actually shocking.

[@robertmcmath910]

They are undercover as a bar-club...think Casablanca with spy-vs-spy. If these individuals can come together and make it work, they can graduate and go on missions. The new Section 31 "team" must sit/wait and collect data/information/intelligence and maybe protect sources/assets, biding time until called upon for a mission.

[@DustyChalk]

Well, also, by making it clear that this is a bit underground, they can have a parallel story in the same timeline in which it is never mentioned, that would be much more traditionally Star Trek. At least they're trying something different, for which I will always applaud, even if it's not my thing.

[@hanumaniam]

I'm giving you a thumbs up for your positivity in the face of such trauma

[@AnnoyingCritic-is7rp]

Yeoh literally said it was 'Mission Impossible'. Another actor literally said it was 'Guardians of the Galaxy 3'. I have a problem with using modern music in Star Trek. It immediately dates it. It makes you work harder at suspending your disbelief, instead of working less. The bigger problem is that the Federation is supposedly in an optimistic future, where most people can pursue their goals and are moral and ethical. According to Picard 'The First Duty is to the truth'. The trailer just simply was lots of action, and to me, Star Trek is not about action. And I liked Guardians 3. It had lots of tragic character development. This seems more like Transformers.

[@shealstewart271]

Music is eternal, it isinfinite.

[@tmnt2105]

Basically this is darker than some other Star Trek movies.

[@1978rharris]

So was deep space nine and look what happened there. Being darker doesn’t mean worse. It doesn’t mean better. And it certainly doesn’t make it any LESS Star Trek than any other iteration.

[@tonydagostino6158]

Except for the opening, I think the production group intentionally left out much of anything that sets the story. All we got from this teaser is some taste of Georgiou's team and personalities. Section 31 is the Federation's undercover force, not just a human org, so having a Vulcan doesn't disturb me. Vulcans can be pretty reactionary and secretive when they want to be. Weren't Frank Gorshin and the other alien the last two members of their black/white race? When Kirk's Enterprise got back to their planet it was devastated by total war and those two chased each other through the wreckage.

[@WebMetlReese]

Honestly SNW kind of put me into a mindset of just keep an open mind, same with LowerDecks and TBH I've enjoyed both of those series with only a few episodes that fell flat with me. As far as S31 it's going to be interesting to see Yeoh take the lead, but if it's all Terran vibe badazz'in then how much can one endure of eyeball eating and raunchy villianry. EDIT: After watching the panel at CC regarding this show really saddened me as watching the history of S31 way back when Bashir was outed for being augmented and seeing the outwardness of how they are operating really shows me that the writers are missing the point of why and how S31 has developed.

[@hcharles1983]

It's section 31 I don't expect it to be like star trek because they don't follow federation rules. Also, their blackops so they have to blend in with the civilian. I like can't wait to see it.

[@troywilliams9788]

How can you have a secret organization inside Star Trek? It looks like Star Trek. I think section 31 looks like Star Trek when dealing with the Federation when they’re not dealing with the Federation, they’re freaking secret. They look like everyone else in the galaxy.

[@NALurking]

Making some sense, I hope you're right.

[@billycovingtonjr4036]

You should wait and see. Remember section 31 is a very big unknown in the Star Trek universe, and so is suppose to be an off the books Black ops type of organization; it is safe to say they will find themselves in situations that would not be traditional Startrek situations . So, wait until you watch the movie and then make your opinions known .

[@s.hagens5389]

If the captain of the enterprise C is in it, there will probably be a healthy dose of Star Trek content in this movie, but they’re deliberately not showing it

[@djoneforever]

It's Star Trek But NO longer exploring strange new worlds and civilization And NO longer boldly go where no one has gone before.

[@dannyrod1980]

I want that plug-in

[@dennisud]

They made it very clear it was not going to be the Standard Trek movie! The subject matter alone with the current powers that be means a very different story! To me, it's like Star Trek Meets BladeRunner! Yes, it shows the underground of the Trrk universe, and I will await what comes next!

[@John-fn2ln]

Looks good to me

[@Dimmary]

I subbed

[@Svenhardy.K]

I Like it🎉🎉

[@chrisohara2325]

Was this done by Disney?

[@ambientcafe]

*THE ORVILLE is infinitely more Star Trek than Star Trek, and looking forward to Season 4 🖖😎

[@alvinbanks]

The young looking Vulcan at the beginning looks more like he has horns instead of ears, who the H** is the makeup artist on this film?

[@Chris22IE]

I think it looks great. I've always wanted a Trek show/movie to explore different perspectives of the Trek universe like Section 31. Not every show/movie has to be set on a Starship with a Starfleet Crew exploring space and there is so much more to the Trek universe that should be explored too. I hope this TV Movie does well enough that more Trek content can take risks and do something completely different from past shows/movies. I also hope someday we will get a Trek show/movie that is entirely based on an alien species like the Klingons or even the Romulans etc or even a Trek show like the West Wing TV show would be cool. As Kirk is famous for saying 'Young minds, fresh ideas. Be tolerant!' or the more famous message of Trek 'to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.' What could be more pure to the core message of Trek than the Franchise it'self exploring new areas of its own universe. To seek out new takes/explore new ideas on it and to boldly go where the franchise hasn't been before.

[@brianpeterson8908]

Section 31 since it's introduction has been established as operating outside of the federation. We know they have technology, likely taken from other races that Starfleet does not. They work in the dark corners, outside the norms where you won't find Stafleet. One thing I loved about DS9 is they took the stolid, perfect setting of Starfleet and started exposing it's underbelly. Earth is a paradise but everywhere else isn't gong to be. I'm looking forward to this, lets see that underbelly.

[@knighriderredux]

I like Michelle Yeoh, but this is starting to feel like Star Wars level of downfall here. When I'm hoping for another season of Prodigy, a kid's animation, though a very well done one imo, over other Trek, there's something wrong. I get its mirror universe stuff, but ehhh

[@KickAChicken]

I agree it looks like they just want to follow what Disney did to Star Wars, and imo thats a bad thing

[@zac8670]

That's the thing: they've a lot of groundwork to make Trek appeal to anyone that viewed nutrek as an overall failure. That would require them to see alienating the original audience and lore as a bad thing, and so far their actions have been pretty upfront that they don't see it that way. Paramount would need to put another studio in charge and clear the ranks. Seems like they don't want to do that. It's more likely that they will continue to pimp out the IP trying to gain a new audience and push agendas. It's rather foolish, seeing as Trekies have been fairly passionate throughout history and would happily keep the franchise alive if it were, ya know, still the same franchise. We will have to see, but their track record has been awful for a while now.

[@reniasva]

A trailer should make you interested in the actual movie but it didn't do that for me. On the contrary: it contains everything I don't like and turning Michelle Yeoh into a stereotype isn't the best decision.

[@LaraA55]

I am with you on this

[@reniasva]

@@LaraA55 Thanks. I actually would love more Trek and I can deal with new ideas, but they should be Trek - not random modern stuff with a Trek flavour.

[@LaraA55]

@@reniasva agreed 🤝

[@alevyts3523]

If the Federation has abandoned money, there is no capitalism, society does not engage in predatory consumption, does not destroy nature, and there is no hunger and poverty. It is a post-scarcity society where everyone has everything they need. There is even a book called Trekonomics: The Economics of Star Trek. So my question is why everything looks like dystopian cyberpunk. Can someone explain this to me?

[@1978rharris]

Since when has aesthetic been dictated by money? You’re not making any point here.

[@alevyts3523]

@@1978rharris Aesthetics is built on scarcity. That is, someone can afford a Birkin bag for 50,000 dollars, while someone has to sell their body to feed their family. Scarcity means that there are only a limited number of artifacts in the world. For example, a limited batch of bags, cars, yachts, paintings, statues, certain clothes, food, etc. The advent of replicator technology has eliminated material shortages. Everyone can afford to dress and consume like the richest man in the galaxy, because replicators are in the public domain. Everything works on the principle of open source. That's why it's ridiculous that someone works as a security guard in a bar, sells their body in various forms, and engages in trade to survive. Everyone works in the Starfleet on a voluntary basis because it is a voluntary association of people who have gathered around the ideas of space exploration, diplomacy, defense, technical and scientific development, and work for free. The only deficit in the Federation is to have a large starship of its own and other huge artifacts. That's why people unite in open source projects to create something great for themselves together with the help of replicators and knowledge sharing.

[@TuomasLeone]

I don't care if it's traditional Star Trek or not. If it can plausibly fit in that universe, has good writing, a entertaining story, and good acting, I'm in. That said, I do hope we see more along the lines of SNW, but I *also* want to see things like this that push the boundaries. This is along the lines of what I imagined the Tarantino Trek would have been.

[@MrYoung22004]

People need to stop gatekeeping what you all think star trek can be. Star trek is and has always been about embracing change and differences. I enjoyed all of Discovery for the record all of Discovery. Enjoy the shows for what they are.

[@JimmySailor]

You’re right, but it still looks like crap. Yeoh looks baffled and gives a terrible line read. They included 4/5 shots of the same ballroom scene. The other characters look like they escaped from Hunger Games. Not to mention Yeoh’s character is so boring. Talk about plot armor. “She’s bad” they litterally tell us ok, but isn’t this a well known spinoff character? You’d think if they had any confidence they would have introduced us to them instead. Imagine a Picard trailer starting with “you’re such a good captain”. Thats such a lame approach that it reveals what they think is fun. It’s like they’re dancing on a chalk outline of a dead loved one.

[@christovog]

Well said but they probably wpnt listen. Also while i agree, it still looks like a fever dream.

[@robusher3205]

I too do not care for the direction that most of the new ST shows have gone. Strange New Worlds is the best of the bunch, but still has quirky episodes. Still trying to forget the whole woke and sensative disco series and do not expect StarFleetAcademy to be any better. Hopefully i am wrong. Id really liek to see a SNW episode where Spock wakes up and reports he had a terrible dream where he had a sister. Kind of like the last episode of the Bob Newhart show. ;-) In this trailer for Sec31. The first scene shows an oily-Tar substance under the foot of the person walking away. It reminds me of the creature that killed Tasha Yar in a TNG episode. Just say'in.

[@trevorwhite915]

I really debated with myself if I should bother making a comment, this site has basically turned into a hate site of anything new Trek. It’s a 30 second clip how anyone can decide whether the show is going to be good or bad amazes me. It’s possible the music used won’t even be in the show they often use generic music for trailers. The little bit of action looks good and her team also look great.

[@jjmfrees]

Like “Wherever You Will Go” by The Calling was used in the first Enterprise trailer, despite the song not being in the show.

[@CodeBluMagik]

Thanks for taking the time. It was the final push I needed to unsubscribe from this channel. LLAP

[@shadscott469]

You need to surround yourself with only people who like what you like. The real world is too dangerous for you.

[@bluestripetiger]

Kurtzman has never truly understood what makes a show "Trek." He can ape it to a certain extent: hi tech look for inside of ships, ships that have the traditional pylon and saucer look, techno babble, uniforms etc. But he has never understood that at its heart Trek is about large ideas, philosophy, ethics, science, crew relationships etc. Trek is NOT first and foremost about shooting at enemy ships. Trek is also above all hopeful not dystopian. It is an indictment of Kurtzman that the shows that resonated the most with fans: Strange New Worlds, Picard Season 3, and Prodigy are all shows in which Kurtzman has not been directly involved in the planning of the details and the day to day. Regarding the Section 31 movie--Michelle Yeoh is a fantastic actress--hopefully they have given her good material to work with in terms of a well plotted script. Since Section 31 is a "naughty" organization and works outside the system , i am prepared for the fact that the movie will be different and will show the Section 31 crew bending a few Trek rules since obviously the character that Yeoh plays is no saint!! But at its heart, something about the Section 31 movie should still resonate as Trek if the people involved with it did a good job. All we can do is hope.

[@iheartlofi]

I don’t understand why it’s a disco inferno.

[@EngineerBoi81]

Hopefully this teaser doesn’t encompass the whole movie and it’s just part of a covert mission where everyone is dressed to fit in with the local crowd but then once they return to their Section 31 ship or HQ we will see more recognizable Star Trek. I’m sure it’ll be a great action movie but so far not looking like traditional Star Trek.

[@paulmillbank3617]

Is this even Star Trek? No this is a teaser trailer for section 31 a Star Trek movie. History just keeps repeating, too many fans and Trek anti-fans build up so much hate based on nothing and ruin what could be a great movie. Stop your stressing until you know more. All you know about this movie is a handful of images and what think that means. This trailer is a teaser which is designed to keep you talking, not giving you enough to ruin any surprises.

[@richardajoy79]

Iv said it many times, this teaser makes the long trek look generic scifi... either they're hiding a crap tonne or that's it.

[@LaraA55]

Agreed

[@shealstewart271]

Do you realize that Star Trek was, is responsible for multiple inventions. It was a syfy program, in most part that looked, forward and was open to change. Why ask an open change mind, to always remind the same, never change, never show that life is not static, never tell the full stories?

[@KickAChicken]

Is This Even Star Trek? No imo. I feel the recent Star Trek series have strayed from the franchise's core values. While DIS initiated this shift, SNW tried to somewhat reversed it. However, the upcoming Starfleet Academy series and this Section 31 Special Movie Event worries me as it seems to be leaning further away from classic Trek ideals. The possibility of making another Amazing show like TNG, VOY, DS9 or even ENT is getting smaller and smaller.

[@carmenlynn5441]

Welp, you've earned a Dont Recommend Channel

[@ruhafla8326]

"I know I probably shouldn't be to judgemental just yet because it is in fact, the teaser trailer." Bingo. But you have to make content, so....

[@coecludd]

My trailer review in three words: IT LOOKS TERRIBLE!

[@b4nes]

Star Trek gets its own Acolyte

[@LaraA55]

OMG, I thought the same thing

[@raymondcanessa7208]

I hope netflix does season 6 of Lower Decks

[@zac8670]

Wow, there are some obvious astroturfing shill comments on this video. Lol 😂

[@JonathanBate-kq3bf]

Growing up watching Star Trek in the 1990's the episodes felt positive and uplifting to watch, but with new Trek scenes like in season 1 of Picard,what happened to poor Icheb,was a level of darkness and brutality that was so un Star Trek to me,I don't think Gene Rodennberry would have put a scene in an episode of a character eating an eyeball

[@Svenhardy.K]

wait wait isnt a Show its a Movie wait could be cool.

[@wushumsz-k7858]

People hate "Section31", just like "Discovery", because the main characters are not a group of white men. "Deep Space 9" was also said to be not Star Trek and the series was criticized. If someone wants a copy of the past, they can watch "Picard". Especially the second half of series 3 is a repetition of what happened. "Star Trek" has always evolved. Let's not turn it into a dusty museum for the sentimental. "Section 31" definitely shouldn't be a copy of everything we already know. And basing your opinion on the ratings of haters only speaks of conformism. Sorry for mistakes. I use G translator.

[@aaronmorse9071]

No Starfleet uniforms.. No Andorians... No Starfleet Starships... NO monster maroons... So far not too impressed. Here's hoping though...

[@MovieLateNight]

Star trek is written by rupauls drag race now....just end us all

[@adamleal670]

Agreed!!!

[@davidlaurahay]

I warned you, all of you, you didn't believe me...

[@lindamaclaren1866]

Nope, not Star Trek. Just a show riding on the coattails of legendary show, while ignoring the legend.

[@kinglord7707]

Someone please keep Michelle Yeoh away from Star Trek

[@christianmerciari6174]

Good analysis... looks like a mess!

[@crimsonorc]

I have to say I didn't like it. It looked like all the action happens in a disco bar. I was hoping for a bit more of a dark spy thriller storyline which explores the underworlds of some Trek alien cultures and that takes advantage of Yeoh's acting talents. As you say its a teaser trailer but my excitement has been really dampened to zero. I don't know if its the marketing department's fault.

[@eddiecharles8170]

All the negative comments shows how noone appreciate creativity. And lack the imagination of enjoying a new vision and direction for Star trek....

[@PaulChristianJenkinsJD]

Frankly dude, you would like a steaming turd if it had the name Star Trek attached to it.

[@mr2pt]

Suicide Squad in space......get in your minds....this is not startrek...this is just some random scific BS

[@memeyers1962]

I must say that with every new ideation of Star Trek I have been against them because they were different. When STNG first came on I knew I would hate it, but was very wrong. Same for STDS9, STV, and so on and so on. I think you have to watch with an open mind and watch each show as its own entity within the umbrella of a franchise.

[@currytigre]

Could be a Romulan given he's showing emotion. Unless they already revealed he's a Vulcan. Also agreeing with everyone else about the trailer not feeling very Star Trek and more generic sci-fi thriller. Also the guy in the mech suit...nothing about that says covert agent to me. You're drawing to much attention.

[@01LTO]

Star Trek hasn’t been truly Star Trek for a while now!

[@curtistate8524]

Boycott Kurtzman Crap

[@90855jkj]

I mean section 31 is an undercover agency that do things that is not aligned with star fleet morals. I don’t mind it looking different than a Star Trek show.

[@Adnegoo]

Man.. This is disapointing... I expect something like a 007, X-Files type of story... Like, the Section31 its aways been played like the "serious man in black business" where just the best of the best personal where recruited.. And we are presented at this young-problematic-chaotic cyberpunk party. As someone describe, its a "disco inferno" vibe. In DISC we have the Dr. Kovich character that give a good vibe to what section31 COULD be. We hope to see "M16/CIA" like stories.. they give us "Junior Woodchucks with bad atitudes"...

[@LaraA55]

@Sci-Finatics I completely agree with you 100% and the insertion of modern music doesn't make sense for Star Trek. The trailer actually put me off from wanting to see the movie due it is non Star trek vibe. I was looking forward to it. I did expect it to be dark Star trek but not dark in the way I thought it would be. It comes across as cyber punkish/ Bladerunner style. The character with the blue hair reminds of Chiana from Farscape. I just see a movie with the Star Trek name slapped on it and memberries of Star Trek aliens, yet feeling so far removed from Star Trek . This has also happened with recent Star Wars shows, such as Andor and the Acolyte which only appealed to a small niche of Star wars fans.. I can't see this movie doing well, won't appeal to the majority of Star Trek fans and the trailer being ratioed speaks volumes.

[@kenk5269]

as much i love ST and swallowed alot of nasty pill when watching STD.... this SECTION 69 is just too much. hard pass on this one.

[@ArtDunnJr]

Trash • Not Watching • Stop It

[@ernieeats6113]

Something to remember... we've had star trek at surface level most of our lives and seen pretty much the apex of starfleet. But there are things, even in TOS we did not know about and would happen under the surface. Just like governments/military today would have. Things that go against the principles to get the job done. Just because we haven't seen it, doesn’t mean it doesn't/didn’t happen just because we're used to the aesthetically pleasing and comfortable trek. You can also think about it like we see the media cover up of adventures. People swear, people kill, do all the naughty things. This will happen far into our own future ao its not so much a stretch to think these things can happen in a star trek. Heck...its only tv anyway 😂.

[@CodeBluMagik]

There is an important context missing in this video. This trailer was for comic con. This was not for Star Trek Las Vegas. This trailer was specifically for non-Star Trek fans. This was to attract all the other fandoms there, which is specifically why it doesn’t look or feel like Star Trek; Star Trek fans were given casting information earlier on so that, we would be a little more at ease when something like this happens.

[@ceekay8644]

Section 31 was on the books for years and was ideally a one-off project for Michelle Yeoh. I do not think its presenting itself to be canonical like DISCO? I hope it's more successful than Discovery!

[@anonymousscience4095]

More successful than Discovery? You mean the series that has spawn 230 Star Trek episodes and 1 movie? I hope Section 31 is more successful than that, but its a damn high bar.

[@meyerhaus3189]

Don’t be such an “old fogy”

[@sandyzalecki1145]

What is this? It doesn't look like Star Trek. That's why I have stopped watching most Star Trek. It doesn't resemble the original intent that Gene Roddenberry had.

[@anonymousscience4095]

This comment could have been lifted straight out of Star Trek fanzines when DS9 was released.

[@sandyzalecki1145]

@@anonymousscience4095 If you like that's fine. We are all entitled to our own opinion.

[@anonymousscience4095]

@@sandyzalecki1145 “I don’t like this and this is why” - valid opinion. “This isn’t Star Trek” - gatekeeping and toxic fandom.

[@sandyzalecki1145]

@@anonymousscience4095 I don't usually care about what people say, but I want to reply to this. I've been a Star Trek fan since 1972. I believe Gene Roddenberry's idea for Star Trek was to be about inclusion, the elimination of racism, sexism, and greed, and a hope for a better future. Even DS9 was edgy but still stuck to Roddenberry's original intent. However, this Dark Trek where people are eating eye balls isn't what Trek is all about. If you like it, fine, but I have a right have my opinion about it.

[@anonymousscience4095]

@@sandyzalecki1145 We don’t know what the main themes of this movie are. We don’t know what the context or author’s intent and message is for those scenes are. We can tell from the diverse cast that the IDIC philosophy does appear to be in effect for this movie. Once again, if you don’t like the aesthetic, if you are worried it looks like it isn’t upholding Trek’s secular humanism roots, etc., that is fine. You don’t have to like it. If you say, “this isn’t Trek”, that is gatekeeping and toxic fandom. Those opinions are not welcome.

[@anonymousscience4095]

I have never understood the attitude of, "I want more of what we have already done". We did it. It's over. If we don't do something new, there is no point in the art. DS9 isn't "Roddenbury's Star Trek". It is dark, has a different aesthetic and has the main character hate Picard. It flips the "Wagon Train" idea on its head and has the show be the frontier town instead of the wagon train. It completely abandons the episodic/Twilight Zone-y nature of TOS and embraces serial storytelling. And it is probably the most loved Star Trek series amongst fans. With the click-baity title of "Is this even Star Trek", you are going to attract the "NuTrek isn't Trek" crowd to your channel. Warning, they are toxic as fuck, and actual fans of the franchise will leave to go where those trolls are not welcome.

[@andybigwood5260]

Sect31 = not trek

[@MovieLateNight]

Thanfully cauase its S31 in the Mirror universe they can get away w it but.... new trek really stinks.

[@dizzwizz3012]

Its a bit like Treks version for Guardians of the Galaxy 😀

[@prezwil46]

Agree! This didn't look like Trek!

[@shealstewart271]

*W H Y,* would *_Section 31_* look like *Star Trek?* *_Section 31,_* is supposed to be *_underbelly_* of *Star Trek UNIVERSE,* *_" "you kNoW!" "_* °^•`~ Do know the world of the CIA *OR* other *_SECRET SECURITY SERVICES_* in the world *Y O U* live in?

[@shealstewart271]

Just remember all the times and things *Section 31* was up, when they *D I D* crossed paths with *_" "normal" " Star Trek!_*

[@Texas_Bob_210]

This show looks soooooo BAD!!!!

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

It's not a show, it's a movie.

[@stevengalloway8052]

Soooo bad in a good way, or just awful bad? 😏

[@canadianguy1955]

Star trek dead. Here's to hoping the sky dance merger gets these hacks fired.

[@SupAJ1M]

Rubbish...You're all being taken for mugs

[@Badhans2007]

WHY so MANY WOMEN?

[@Chris22IE]

You have got a problem with women?

[@Badhans2007]

Go clan your room kid!​@@Chris22IE

[@Chris22IE]

@@Badhans2007 Resorting to childish insults huh? Goes to show that you have no foundation to your opinion and you are just a sad person.

[@anonymousscience4095]

Star Trek Voyager, the feminism focused Star Trek, has more male main cast members than female ones. TOS has three male leads. I think we can afford to have more women in Star Trek.

[@JJ-ni3qo]

Error404: star trek not found

[@suzietexus8620]

I personally have liked the new Star Treks but this teaser doesn’t give me any incentive to be excited for S31. Come on - Beyoncé? 😫

[@andrewchilcott5312]

The same criticisms can be vented at any of the JJ-Verse films and Disco too - it 'aint my Star Trek, it's a generic sci-fi romp with a Star Trek badge slapped on it

[@1978rharris]

It’s Star Trek to ME if I say it is. Same goes with anyone else. But no one gets to tell me if it is or isn’t. Based on a short clip. Edit: I’d like to see what the dislikes are on THIS video. Unsubbed.

[@odysseytravelapp]

Preach! I hate the internet sometimes

[@georgegolden532]

This has the stink of Picard all over it!!! Everything shown is unrecognizable from Star Trek and Star Trek Discovery. This doesn’t even look like our Phillipa! And stacking it with callbacks to Star Trek aliens doesn’t make it Star Trek.

[@timdunnusa]

Mirror Mirror universe is overdone. Disco was being grimdark for being grimdark's sake. Section 31 is all the idiocy of ST: Into Darkness with none of the anchoring characters. Disco was never my Star Trek, and never will be. Anything that stems from it already starts with 2 strikes, including Academy. I'm expecting a train wreck like ST:ID or worse.

[@krashmrh]

Sounds like they are digging in the bottom of the barrel and riding on the name of Star Trek. No thank you!

[@bioshock6935]

Another not star trek show that will flop