Israel-Hamas War: Norman Finkelstein vs Rabbi Shmuley | Full Debate

[@benjamingoldstein6298]

Norman wants to discuss Gaza; Shmuley wants to discuss Norman.

[@steve7236]

Shmuley has no facts to argue. He's just another Zionist who believes he's superior to everyone else.

[@piotrswat169]

we should discuss Shmuley

[@FaerieSidhe]

@@piotrswat169 Hijab did. It didn't win him any points. Suddenly he doesn't have an opinion when he wants to dodge.

[@JenZee-oe2no]

@@FaerieSidheI don't understand the refusal to speak plainly, myself. People who refuse to do it are revealing more then they are trying to hide.

[@urielros]

When a historian makes a mockery of historical research and historical objectivity then indeed his historical analysis is moot.

[@eruston]

Norm did what Sun Tzu recommends: 'when your enemy is making a fool of himself... don't interrupt him.'

[@waveradio3654]

😂😂😂😂😂😂... so true!!!! 😂😂😂😂

[@abbydollars8679]

Yep👍🏼

[@staycalmandreflect5296]

Absolutely. Made a real mockery of himself.

[@AshlyCovington]

absolutely!!!!

[@MrBlessed70]

On the contrary

[@zsht]

Pretty sure Finkelstein talked 15% slower than normal just to annoy Shmuley 😂 and it worked

[@narcissismnow4338]

I think so too x

[@HaseenaPatel-en8dg]

😂

[@leyali524]

😂

[@wiiliskaako5875]

That is how he usually talk😂,slow he thinks and talks at the same time unlike the brainless tlk like this guy

[@rolandhawken6628]

As the man said you fall asleep listening to him total boring speaker spouting the usual they are committing genocide BS trouble is the pop of Gaza is increasing ,Jews are not very good at it

[@everykneeshallbowzao]

Telling a man whose parents both were in concentration camps during the holocaust, that he’s a holocaust denier is completely insane.

[@seanhall6317]

Especially when denying genocide in the same conversation.

[@everykneeshallbowzao]

@@seanhall6317 what are you talking about? Who denied genocide ?

[@seanhall6317]

@@everykneeshallbowzao Rabbi Shmuley

[@everykneeshallbowzao]

@@seanhall6317 he’s weird.

[@Cedawood]

​@@seanhall6317 How did Shumely deny the genocide of Jews?

[@888Jt88]

Is a debate necessary at this point? The whole world sees what's happening.

[@miapax1962]

Hear Hear

[@Hshdzsskidi]

I doubt because u still pro Palestinian yet so much evidence so u all just choose to stay dumb.

[@RaoufHasan]

Apparently yes, the US just vetoed another Un resolution for a ceasefire. Seems like no matter how much we talk about it the government doesn’t care. No matter how much we talk about it, Israel still deserves all of our money instead of our own people and our homeless, and our kids and literally every other crumbling aspect of the US and it’s infrastructure. It’s a shame we have to talk about it this much, but we can’t stop because this has been going on for too damn long, and I’m not talking about since Oct 7th, I’m talking about the DECADES, before it.

[@SureHoney]

The world is seeing only what the media is showing it.

[@BertGraef]

if you really study that religion its nothing but endless rabbinic debates, bickering, ostracism of the minority, shunning . Even the early rabbis managing to kick their own God out of that religion. search " Oven of Akhnai". " " coiled sepent of argument",

[@Ed-zp2xo]

Shmuley spent months with Michael Jackson as a spiritual advisor and defended him against charges of child sex abuse. He then disavowed Jackson and waited until he died before releasing tapes of their private spiritual and therapeutic conversations. That's the kind of vampire this man is

[@marcd828]

Classic!

[@detrockcity3]

Oh okay. So getting into the dildo business with his daughter (in every bit as creepy a fashion as you’d have a nightmare about) was actually a step up for him.

[@MilahanPhilosophersCorner]

I had no idea wow.

[@ellalanier1251]

Both men are very bad then! No doubt.

[@adventureisoutthere2603]

That's good to know , thank you

[@EscapeTheHold]

Sometimes letting your opponent speak is the greatest tactic of defeat.

[@berrybones3112]

Yeah norm looks really fucking stupid when all he does it lie

[@HELLO-b1p]

Yep 100%

[@caramelbilquees]

Shmuley he keeps Denying & Deflecting the obvious 🙄

[@hinayum]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@shh57431]

Yup Norm definitely let shmuley demolish himself

[@AmericasIronman]

“What would you like me to respond to?” Was a cold line.

[@goodegggreg8189]

that’s right.

[@Fitri_Madran]

Haha i get didd . Hahaha😂😂

[@rivalgameplay3254]

Ignore your life problems the way Finkelstein ignored shmoley the whole interview 😂😂

[@Crystal-mm8sb]

I wish I could lol man has skill

[@FaerieSidhe]

He has nothing of substance to add. How many time do you listen to the exact same emotional (and mostly false) talking points and not get bored?

[@RoyalBlue292]

True!

[@RaoufHasan]

Man it’s exhausting listening to a Zionist talk, they put so little effort in their lies and change stories so much, it takes the mental acuity of a scholar to keep up with them…

[@donstunner1987]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@uncledan2u]

Shmuley is talking about Norman and Norman is talking Gaza while Piers is taking about Hamas and the topic was Gaza. No wonder Norman is a Professor.

[@hkkh1058]

Perfectly summed up

[@juliaeberle4095]

So true😢😂

[@toneloke454]

Hamas is the reason we are talking about Gaza. They are the reason all of this is happening right now. Also, Norman is a coward and has been dodging hard questions and refusing to answer then his whole life. Shmuley is right to challenge him.

[@valihinker6390]

​@@toneloke454Bullshit the only reason why everything is the way it is, is because of a terrorist state that exploits the suffering of its ancestors in the most disgusting way. a. And it's coming to light more and more every day. Education doesn't hurt..

[@IrfanShaikh-y3s]

​​@@toneloke454 It's not Hamas. It's Israel's occupation and oppression of PALESTINIANS. That's the reason why it's happening. Stop pretending that you will not fight back Oppressors who kill your family and who do disgusting things to them. All want Justice. Where is justice?

[@lightseeker7956]

29K comments and none in favour of Shmuley!! Playing the victim card has lost its power.

[@jacobpeters5458]

playing the Savior complex by the KZbin commenters, however, is on a stellar rise!

[@ahmedalani3513]

@@jacobpeters5458god sees your heart and hears what can’t be heard. Remember that

[@goddlessanarchist845]

@@ahmedalani3513poor reaponse

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

@@jacobpeters5458scurry off to your tunnel 🐀

[@ronakohne2604]

Maybe you need to check again

[@anafernandes225]

"He's suffering from Judeo Dementia". Exactly, Norman. Human Rights and International Law that Israel doesn't respect.

[@jclgts10]

I no longer watch Piers Morgan for his partial atittude . I just came today to see Norman Finkelstein

[@Swormy097]

I share your sentiment I have unsubscribed. I was led here from another page.

[@teresasteele5327]

I'm not subscribed to the Morgan's channel. I came to listen to Norn.

[@jclgts10]

@@Swormy097 I am subscribed just to keep an eye . However I don't like this style these journalists do. Usually they do not let people say what they have to say. They interrupt always on the most important moments.

[@zamzamsarah3682]

Mi too , I already unsubscribe

[@shahislam50]

Took the words right out of my mouth!

[@fencalmari5609]

“The issue before us is Gaza, it’s not me. Now, there is a temptation obviously on my part to defend my professional honour and my personal honour, but I am going to withstand that temptation, and end on the note that this conversation began” WHAT A KING!! 🙌

[@abdillehhussein3726]

Indeed

[@spellerwix]

thats's called being a condescending narcissist.

[@irishscience580]

The issue before us is hamas. If there was no hamas there is no death. If the palestinian people didnt vote hamas in and reject every olive branch given by israel...this wouldnt be happening

[@FreshNSlunky]

@@spellerwix literally the opposite, but ok

[@ActiveRehabMobility]

@@spellerwix Can you explain? He wants to concentrate on the subject and not deal with childish insults. I’m sure he could have brought up the dildo issues but he concentrated on the situation on hand.

[@DG02468]

I watched 6 minutes till now and shmuley has completely forgotten the topic of the debate and is just name calling norman Finkelstein

[@munezeromunyangeyo9549]

You don't like what shmuley said before he said what you don't want to hear , shmuley is right and right, viva Israel ❤

[@safwat0818]

Zi0nists are Pretty Good at That! Mr. Norman Showed His Incredible Decency ! Hat’s off to Mr. Norman! Love and Respect!

[@Edwin-sn6bw]

Are you crazy fooool

[@Logia1978]

@@munezeromunyangeyo9549 read the comments... i think you have a Jewish Dementia too LOL

[@rollingknuckleball]

@@munezeromunyangeyo9549 Dispensationalist detected

[@romaitoazhar5066]

The only human being on this program is Mr Norman. Thank you for representing us to use patience and common sense, 🎉.

[@mg6md]

Norman is a sociopath. He fully supports Hazbullah and calls Hamas October 7th attack "resistance". In his debates, ironically, he is the one throwing ad hominem attacks like against Destiny calling him a "fantastic moron".

[@ImanGaming1]

.1. Haifa Massacre 1937 2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937 3. Haifa Massacre 1938 4. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939 5. Haifa Massacre 1939 6. Haifa Massacre 1947 7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947 8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947 9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947 10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947 11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947 12.Tantura Massacre 1948 13. Jaffa Massacre 1948 14. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956 15. Jerusalem Massacre 1967 16. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982 17. Al-Aqsa Massacre 1990 18. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994 19. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002 20. Gaza Massacre 2008-09 21. Gaza Massacre 2012 22. Gaza Massacre 2014 23. Gaza Massacre 2018-19 24. Gaza Massacre 2021 25. Gaza Genocide 2023 is still ongoing DONT LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU THAT IT STARTED ON OCTOBER 7th PLEASE REPOST

[@halvorson566]

Interesting….this is…biased&partial. IF the Palestinians had be the original people of the region for thousands&thousands of years, you think they’d be any better than they are now? Painting Palestine as the ultimate victim isn’t the move. They’ve broke ceasefires, they’ve massacred their own people, they’ve been shunned by their own Muslim neighbors while also being sent by those same countries to carry out suicide missions so they have plausible deniability&aren’t loosing their own people. Israel isn’t blameless either, do not twist my damned words. If you want to be taken serious by people outside of the echo chamber, do not play one side being biased. Look into the whole thing&see the details of the picture. Look farther back to when the land was first inhabited. Then work your way towards current times. See how that entire region has been, how many people have laid sacred claim to it&are the true heirs if it. Even if some of them didn’t have a connection to it religiously or ethnically until “recently”, less than two thousand years. Theirs one way this is going to end, one side as the victor. Otherwise, they’ll continue trading blows, one side breaking a peace agreement, the other retaliates. Then rinse, &switch sides. Sometimes one side takes a few turns in the same position, same with the other. Palestine, they want to genuinely eradicate out Israel. If Israel wanted to wipe out all Palestinians, they could’ve a long time ago&quickly. They could do it now&quicker. Even if Israel took a peaceful stance from any point, we would’ve seen Palestinians attacking them. My solutions, leave them be. Let them hash it out because they’re going to with or without any outside influence supporting or opposing. Go in strong, hard&fast. Disarm every weapon in the region. Occupy them, make sure nothing gets in that’s not from the coalition of nations that are occupying them to prevent any weapons. Force them to play nice&if they start back up again after leaving the zone, either come back or let them hash it out. That’s not really a plausible strategy&very wasteful. Force an evacuation. Glass the region. Turn it in a “eternal fire” zone with as much artillery as it takes to make it inhabitable. Worse than it is now. Let them find a new holy land to fight over. Which makes that another wasteful scenario. Basically every scenario besides let them handle it themselves is wasteful. That region has always been entrenched in conflict, no matter who was there. Spurts of peace, then it kicks off again&eventually it ends until the next neighbor comes along.

[@finchvalor]

None of those are on the Jews of today so you just wasted your time typing all that garbage out. That’d be like me typing out every single time Muslims have slaughtered innocent people in that region(which would take several lifetimes) and expecting it to mean something. Israel is going to destroy Hamas because of the evil they did on October 7th. Get over it.

[@YourNapoleon]

Israel failed to.conduct genocide they must learn from.muslims

[@TheKingYona13]

▪ 622-627: ethnic cleansing of Jews from Mecca and Medina, (Jewish boys were publicly inspected for pubic hair and executed if they had any) ▪ 624: after the victory of Badr, beginning of the elimination of the Jews ▪ 625: expulsion of the Jewish clan of Al Nadir ▪ 626: massacre of the Beni Khazradj Jews and division of families and loot ▪ 626? : expedition against the Jews beni Qoraizha, insulted by Mohammed: “O you, monkeys and pigs…” ▪ 626? : massacre of 700 Beni Qoraïzha Jews, bound for three days, then slaughtered above a ditch, with the young boys ▪ 626: murder of the Jew Kab, leader of the Beni Nadhir and satirist poet, and of his wife who had made fun of Mohammed ▪ 626: expedition against the Jews of Kaihbar ▪ 626: murder on the orders of Muhammad of the Jew Sallam abu Rafi ▪ 626: Mohammed had the palm trees of the Jewish oasis Beni Nadhir cut down ▪ 627: elimination of the Jewish Qurayza clan in Medina ▪ 627: massacre of the Jews of Medina; sharing of families and property ▪ 628? : attack on the Jews of Khaibar, and torture of prisoners ▪ 628? : taking of the Jewish oasis of Fadak as Mohammed’s personal property ▪ 628: submission of the Jews of Wadil Qora ▪ 628: Mohammed to the Jews beni Qainoqa: “if you do not embrace Islam, I declare war on you” ▪ 629: first massacres in Alexandria, Egypt ▪ 622-634: extermination of the 14 Arab Jewish tribes ▪ 630: submission of the Jews and Christians of Makna, Eilat, Jerba ▪ 638: expulsion of the Jews from Jerusalem ▪ 640: expulsion of Jews from Hedjez ▪ 643: expulsion of the Jews from Khaibar by Omar ▪ 822-861: the Islamic empire adopts a law requiring Jews to wear yellow stars (a bit like Nazi Germany), caliph al-Mutawakkil ▪ 940: beheading of the Jewish exilarch of Baghdad for having sullied the name of Mohammed ▪ 945: assassination by a crowd of fanatics of the last Jewish exilarch of Baghdad ▪ 948: closure of the Jewish theological school of Baghdad “Sora” ▪ 1004: Jews and Christians must wear a black turban and sash in Egypt ▪ 1009: Jews and Christians in Egypt must wear a cross or bells in the baths ▪ 1009: destruction of the Holy Sepulcher of Jerusalem by the Fatimids ▪ 1010-1013: start of massacre of hundreds of Jews around Cordoba ▪ 1016: Jews are persecuted and driven out of Kairouan ▪ 1010: persecution of Christians, Jews and Sunnis by the Fatimid caliph Al Hakim ▪ 1032: 5 to 6,000 Jews killed in a riot in Fez and expulsion of survivors ▪ 1040: beheading of the Jewish theologian Gaon Chizkiya, head of a Talmudic school ▪ 1106: Ali Ibn Yousef Ibn Tashifin of Marrakech decrees the death penalty for any local Jew, including his Jewish doctor, and his military general. ▪ 1148: the Almohads of Morocco give Jews the choice of converting to Islam or being expelled ▪ 1057: capture and pillage of Kairouan by the Hilalian tribes; expulsion of Jews and certain Muslims ▪ 1066: Massacre of thousands of Jews in Granada in Muslim-occupied Spain ▪ 1073: start of persecution against Jews and Christians by the Turks in Jerusalem ▪ 1127: in Morocco, after the failure of the prophetic movement of the Jewish messiah Moshe Dhery, wave of persecutions and forced conversions ▪ 1142: start of persecution against the Jews by the Almohads; massacre in Tlemcen, Bougie, Oran ▪ 1145: the Jews of Tunis must choose between conversion and exile ▪ 1146: capture of Meknes by the Almohads; persecution of the Jews ▪ 1147: capture of Tlemcen by the Almohads; persecution of the Jews ▪ 1147: Almohad invasion of Spain: expulsion of Jews or forced conversions ▪ 1147: capture of Marrakech by the Almohads; persecution of the Jews ▪ 1147: start of Almohad persecutions against the Jews of North Africa ▪ 1148: start of the exodus of Maimonides fleeing the intolerance of the Almohads ▪ 1148: Almohadin of Morocco gives Jews the choice of converting to Islam or being expelled. ▪ 1152: advent of Abd el Moumin in Morocco; choice for Christians and Jews between conversion or death ▪ 1159: controversy between Maimonides and the rabbi of Fez on the attitude towards forcible converts

[@TheKingYona13]

▪ 1160: capture of Ifriqiya by the Moroccans of Abd el Moumen; Jews and Christians must choose between death and conversion; Jews are converted by force and superficially. ▪ 1165-1178: Yemen: Jews throughout the country were given the choice (under the new constitution) to convert to Islam or die ▪ 1165: chief rabbi of the Maghreb burned alive. The Rambam fled to Egypt. ▪ 1165: flight of Maimonides to Egypt to escape the Almohads ▪ 1171: in Egypt, decree recalling obedience to ordinances concerning the submission of Jewish and Christian infidels under penalty of death ▪ 1184: the Almohads impose distinctive signs on Christians and Jews in Spain ▪ 1198: forced conversion of the Jews of Aden ▪ 1220: tens of thousands of Jews killed by Muslims after being blamed for the Mongol invasion, Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Egypt ▪ 1232: massacre of the Jews of Marrakech ▪ 1266: the tomb of the Patriarchs of Hebron is converted into a mosque and closed to Jews and Christians ▪ 1267: Mamluk Sultan Baybars forbids Jews from entering the vault of the Patriarchs in Hebron; the ban ended exactly five centuries later in 1967 ▪ 1270: Sultan Baibars of Egypt resolved to burn all the Jews, a ditch having been dug for this purpose; but at the last moment he repented and instead demanded a heavy tribute, in which many perished. ▪ 1270: widespread segregation of Jews in Andalusia ▪ 1276: 2nd pogrom of Fez, Morocco ▪ 1284: In Baghdad, the Jewish doctor Ibn Kammuna died locked in a trunk after writing “a book in which he showed irreverence towards the prophecies”; he escapes a lynching and is threatened with the stake ▪ 1291: death of the converted Jew Sad al Dawla, grand vizier of Argun Khan in Iran, a rank which provoked the anger of the Muslim court ▪ 1291: forced conversion of the Jews of Tabriz in Persia ▪ 1301: start of the persecution of the Jews in Egypt ▪ 1318: beheading of Rashid aldin Tabid, historian and Persian minister, Jewish convert who provoked the anger of Muslim elites ▪ 1318: forced conversion of the Jews of Tabriz in Persia ▪ 1333: forced conversion of the Jews of Baghdad ▪ 1333: the traveler Ibn Battuta complains that Djenkchi Khan djagataï allows Jews and Christians to repair their places of worship ▪ 1334: forced conversion of the Jews of Baghdad ▪ 1344: forced conversion of the Jews of Baghdad ▪ 1351: trial of Jews (in Cairo?) accused of desecration, who must choose between conversion or death ▪ 1385 : Massacres du Khorasan, Iran ▪ 1390: foundation of the first Jewish ghetto in Fez ▪ 1391: in Morocco, persecution of Jews from Spain ▪ 1438: creation of ghettos for Jews in the cities of Morocco, under the name “mellah” ▪ 1438: 1st massacres in the Mellah ghetto, North Africa ▪ 1448: in Egypt, decree recalling obedience to ordinances concerning the submission of Jewish and Christian infidels under penalty of death ▪ 1450: trial of Jews accused of having written the name of Mohammed in their synagogue in Fustat; they are converted by force ▪ 1465: In Fez, pogroms after the discovery in the Jewish quarter of the tomb of the city’s founder, a descendant of Mohammed…; Jews are forced to move to the ghetto (11 Jews left alive) ▪ 1492: Jewish community of Touat in Morocco is massacred; synagogues destroyed ▪ 1516: Algerian Jews receive the official status of dhimmi from the Ottomans; certain colors are forbidden to them (red and green); they are not allowed to ride horses or carry weapons; they must pay the discriminatory tax; their representative is ritually slapped during the delivery of tribute to the authorities ▪ 1517: 1st pogrom in Safed, Ottoman Palestine ▪ 1517: 1st pogrom of Hebron, Ottoman Palestine ▪ Massacre of Marsa ibn Ghazi, Ottoman Libya ▪ 1521: expulsion of Jews from Belgrade by the Ottomans ▪ 1524: expulsion of Jews from Buda in Hungary by the Ottomans ▪ 1535: pogrom then expulsion of Jews from Tunisia ▪ 1554: looting and persecution against the Jewish population of Marrakech by the Turks who took the city ▪ 1574: civil war in Morocco between three claimants; Jews are victims of all camps

[@femu27]

God, please give me the patience. calmness and composure of Professor Norman!

[@ArabDweller]

You'll be a sloth then

[@pratoarancione7646]

I want to remark that Finkelstein say false when he compares the certainity of Jews genocide by Nazis to certainity of Palestinians genocide by Israelis!! The first one remains supposed by scholars: no proofs or evidences, only some, mostly Jewish, human very discutable testimony while the opposite scholars are forbidden to speak by anti-Holocaust-denying laws!!!, then the second one is as real as tv images and sounds!!! No comparison. Piers Morgan here play into the dirty hands of Jews and their lies!!! Be careful!

[@justmytwocents6212]

@@ArabDwellerI’d rather be an intelligent and emotionally stable sloth than an adult with toddler-tantrum issue 😂

[@ArabDweller]

​@@justmytwocents6212An emotionally stable sloth who doesn't answer questions? You do you 🤷‍♂️

[@justmytwocents6212]

@@ArabDweller Au contraire, he actually did answered it with context and background story. But it’s okay if you don’t get that…😌. Anyway, I’d still rather be a sloth who doesn’t do anything than someone with major anger issue problem. I mean, surely it’s not good for the blood pressure

[@khalidsaad1089]

As a former toddler, I relate to Shmuley’s tantrums.

[@BronwynReiss]

Classic

[@Amaking10000]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@shovanbijoy7136]

Hahaha

[@syskj]

Listening to psychotic Smalley it’s very painful like walking on shreds of glass👹👺👺👺🤮

[@anacc3257]

Both of them are a bit obnoxious but it's understandable that people get frustrated with norm evading every question about his extreme and biased opinions and remarks.

[@Bootstataboots]

"What would you like me to respond to?" - Norman Finkelstein. LOL, I love the patience and class of this guy. Schmuley was all over the place.

[@apataye9148]

He is NOT PATIENT, he is just always HALF SLEPT.

[@b.c627]

@@apataye9148and you are blind. 😂

[@abdelouahedlahmoudi8916]

​@@apataye9148 Norman is smart and human Guy, Shumely is racist again to children if Gaza.

[@malusa9508]

If one day I can respond to my enemies and false acusations, the way Finkelstein does, I would consider my whole life a worthwhile learning lesson.

[@usmanjamshed-m7t]

think the same most times i hear him speak. i bet they learn from mr noam chomsky

[@Shir_Hadash]

Well said. Finkelstein's moral and intellectual clarity and his humility stand in stark contrast to Shmuley's absolute madness.

[@shiekhashraf5378]

Same as me. From Indian Kashmir ❤

[@nisahmed9121]

2 Israelis vs a Jewish voice for peace!

[@raoulduke8720]

if you read as much as he has then you know the truth and you know you cant really defend it in the face of a psychopath, all you can do is let the truth speak for itself

[@JeezVince]

I cant believe the way Shmuley started this debate. He humiliated himself, how can this man be on tv is beyond me.

[@rosemarykingpate7832]

He disgusts me.

[@michellelarden5281]

Bullshit!

[@JeezVince]

@@michellelarden5281 That's how I think of Shmuley too.

[@avigoldstein5836]

because when you debate Finkelstein, he tries to drag on his answers so that his opponent does not get to speak. Shmuley beat Finky at his own game!

[@JeezVince]

@@avigoldstein5836 "Shmuley beat Finky" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[@scathachmuirisc7149]

Did Piers think the UK government should have destroyed Northern Ireland to obliterate the IRA and flatten Catholic areas, schools and infrastructure?

[@jessicalacasse6205]

don t ask you might be surprise he s a brit after alll

[@nisahmed9121]

He has no moral compass but money compass!

[@Shiggystardust]

Hardly the same now is it. Apples and potatoes

[@daanachmad4032]

I would not be surprised if some people will support that proposal.

[@Holdfast1812]

@@jessicalacasse6205 Actually he is Irish - and is on record as pointing out that even with the IRA being terrorists - the UK made peace. A good lesson for Israel perhaps...

[@ZAli-jt9es]

Rabbi Shmuley is a perfect fit for an Indian TV debate.😂

[@nagoorimtiyas6269]

😂😂😂😂😂 i canot stop smile..😂😂

[@bxz-um9mg]

What’s an ‘Indian TV debate’? I didn’t know Indians have their own TV shows…

[@MayaKaur-e5o]

True 😂

[@TradingGuru364]

@@bxz-um9mg try listening to Arnab Goswami 🤣 I dare you to control your laughter on his stupidity

[@khan92asif]

While watching this debate i thought i was on indian news channel

[@scientifier]

Shmuley studied all Norman's history to prepare for this debate, but he was surprised that the topic was about Gaza 😅

[@caratheresehodge4255]

that's a good one

[@shovanbijoy7136]

Perfect

[@waveradio3654]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@shalombaumanian4278]

😂😂😂

[@talebasnl]

He learned that tactic from Mohammed Hijab when he exposed shmuley but it backfired for shmuley again

[@bartosztomkiewicz6269]

Norman Finkelstein should start giving lectures on how to stay patient and how to ignore fools.

[@castelodeossos3947]

And keep a straight face when you want to burst out laughing.

[@moeamanzadeh5273]

Exactly, it is extremely hard when you are under direct attack. words are activating the same hormones as a physical attack… The whole body and brain automatic response is defense. Amazing how he could do this…

[@castelodeossos3947]

@@moeamanzadeh5273 Not so sure, really. If the person making the attack is a clown, he's infradig, meaning his attack is like a mosquito's attack. Hardly worth getting excited about.

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

I would listen to him.

[@zachdave2994]

@@moeamanzadeh5273Sticks and stones, this man can handle words and he’s a messiah? He thinks this is the worst of humanity, after Dr. Mengele cut his ancestors in half and sewed them back together. He’s an animal.

[@AlirezAek]

Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. -Norman Finklestein

[@avigoldstein5836]

and yes, shmuley did allow norman to speak and make his mistakes, but eventually norman just had to be stopped; how long should we tolerate his drivel?

[@jullietmburu9672]

​@@avigoldstein5836provide one piece of evidence that his work is discredited (ie, research, articles, books lectures etc). Show one incident where his peer-reviewed findings are wrong... Just one. I'll wait ☕⌛

[@ronakohne2604]

Ja, a despicable human being like you would say something like that

[@Eatprepd]

Schmoly went home in tears 😂

[@Sidi.mohamed4]

​@@avigoldstein5836This is his misfortune.that he did not learn from Norman, Listen well😛

[@maureenberendonk4662]

According to shmuley, Israeli leaders know exactly where hamas leaders are AND how wealthy each one is…why not go after them rather than regular Palestinian people?

[@bayanbishara6666]

THIS

[@Jay-dh4pd]

Lmao how about now

[@davidradaku-ho4yi]

THEY WANT ETHNIC CLEASING.......

[@mubarakyakubu]

This debate is the literal manifestation of the quote: ‘when truth is hurled against falsehood, it knocks its brains out’

[@wreckitwalsh4623]

Precisely! Finkelstein's brain was laying bare for us all to see. Could not answer a simple question because he is bought and paid for by Hamas.

[@greendholia5206]

or when falsehood is hurled against truth

[@izzyboy999]

It's not a quote, that's an Ayah feom the Quran "No! We hurl the truth against falsehood, and truth obliterates it- see how falsehood vanishes away! Woe to you [people] for the way you describe God!" (Quran 21:18)

[@PoshByDefault]

It's so weird how Piers audience/comments are all pro terrorist while projecting.. I mean, we're all educated enough to know that Hamas exists and uses them as human shields. Before you reprobates disagree, why aren't the civilians allowed in the tunnels then? They're only for Hamas? Can you not put two and two together? Why wouldn't Hamas shelter Palestinians while the fight for their freedom? Is it because of the concepts like martydom and jihad? The Hamas charter literally says they are there to kill the Jews. Why can't you acknowledge this? The IDFs retaliatory terrorism is retaliatory. Big whoop. I'm pro Israel and fully aware that Israel are boming women and children. They are trying not to by sending all kinds of communications NO OTHER COUNTRY has ever done in the same fashion.. If Hamas puts Palestinians under harms way by shooting rockets at Israel, what exactly is going on in this situation? Is that Israel's fault? It's Israel's fault that Hamas are shooting at Israel next to women and children? It's Israel's fault they fire back? All rockets fired are Israel's fault? Is anything Hamas' fault? Let alone the Palestinians for celebrating Oct 7th and having majority support for Hamas' actions.

[@williampatton7476]

Unlike the true story of Buraq @@izzyboy999

[@zainabmirza4447]

Shmuley is doing what he does best "personal attacks" instead of answering the question, or addressing the issue at hand.

[@andrewphillips6853]

Mohammed hijab taught him 😂😂😂

[@zainabmirza4447]

@@andrewphillips6853 oh i didnt know he was that inspired by Muhammed Hijab. You sound really smart. Who taught you?

[@Gphilly819]

Should Hamas stay in power ?

[@ori1676]

Im from Israel, Rabbi Shmuley definitely won

[@zainabmirza4447]

@@Gphilly819 acc to international law Palestinian people have a right to self determination. So in a scenario where Palestine is from israel's colonization, they can decide whoever they want as their leaders.

[@davidcampbell4647]

Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are the bird is going to kick over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.

[@1a2b3cman]

agree, but why does piers allow rabbi to attack the character of norman? piers should have told rabbi to shut the fuck up and discuss situation in middle east. extremely unprofessional, i condemn this action. yet norm destroyed rabbi, literally rabbi is admitting to the genocide and defending it.

[@ndadzo06]

this is so good

[@davidcampbell4647]

@@1a2b3cman Because this is about ratings not civil discourse, why MMA cage fights attract such a large audience. People enjoy being shocked more than watching a reasoned well moderated debate on a serious topic. Look at us debating this guy now, I’d never have heard of this insane “rabbi” had I not seen his unhinged rants being circulated on social media.

[@ambergray7552]

😂😂😂absolutely!

[@RonMi95]

Ad hominems against Finkelstein are legitimate as he is widely discredited as a researcher and does spout gross misrepresentations

[@adrianaslund8605]

Finkelstein's face throughout this is so funny. It's like he's a classy oldschool intellectual debating a South Park character and just questioning his sense of reality.

[@gabagod9238]

fantastic perspective on it!

[@matthewtyler7233]

This sums up how I get the entire time so we’ll

[@Caution40404]

An intellectual that after several minutes have passed he couldn't answer one simple question...

[@Elemento000]

@@Caution40404 Wrong, he answered it, but didn't give the answer that Piers was expecting. Piers always try to do this, asking "yes or no" questions to questions that aren't meant to be responded with a simple yes or no. Piers wanted to put in check the moral compass of Norman Finklestein with a trap question but Norman simply but brilliantly put the moral compass in check of Piers too. He gave probably the best answer that I've heard to that question, it was incredible. Norman is on another level and the original comment here said it perfectly.

[@owaisfayoumi618]

@@Caution40404 Yeah wow, an old man talks slow, who would've thought. Have you ever thought of using your br41n?

[@The_Voice_of_Reason748]

"Most Zionists don't believe that God exists but they do believe he promised them PALESTINE" - Ilan Pappe

[@milmark11]

I ❤ this quote

[@_fatimafarhat]

@porter9494exactly like shmuley. Discredit their argument, not who they are.

[@becky8605]

@porter9494 ur such a weirdo, keep speaking on the prophet, when you can’t even spell his name right. Ur disgusting, and pathetic. That was 1,400 years ago of course things were different then. People would get married young and over time that changed and people do things differently than that time period. That has nothing to do with this topic. Free Palestine and end the occupation. All the innocent kids don’t deserve to die. Netanyahu and the people on his side do.

[@PaperPizza]

​​@porter9494oi rabbi can you tell me the age of Rebekkah when she married issac and Metzitzah b'peh. How many times your people got kicked out again?

[@josephgee143]

Excellent comment

[@tumelovinger7270]

Wow blew my mind when Norman said he is tempted to defend himself, but that he would restrain himself, this showed the depth of his character, him and shumley r literally not in the same stratosphere

[@kennethtemew8409]

fiklestein cannot answer ... can't you see that? foolishness is one who can't defend himself when the other comes to "draw".

[@RAAAHUM]

​@@kennethtemew8409Yet all shmuley did was attack Finkelstein personally. He is one of the worst debaters on the show. He is unable to control his emotions. It is as though he was never disciplined by his own parents. He quite literally made a fool out of himself.

[@joshuakohn4408]

It shows that when one is naive, he is easily impressed

[@caramelbilquees]

Sign of MENTAL ILLNESS There is something wrong with him..

[@bjjpenguin]

@@kennethtemew8409 You aren't very bright are you?

[@azakatar2624]

Norm you held yourself with such dignity and discipline while addressing the issue. Your opponent on the other hand was completely unhinged and based his argument on lies and trying to discredit you.

[@Dr_Shkar]

If I could ignore my life problems the way Finkelstein ignored the unholy Shmoley.

[@Trickyksa]

I've stopped watching this show for a while for obvious reasons but Dr. Norman is the exception

[@Hemma-mm]

Me too Norman is the man … all respect

[@siminoof]

Me too

[@the_zenden]

Same!! Piers lost my respect by not condemning the Israeli occupation and genocide.

[@lf9341]

@@the_zenden There is no occupation or genocide. Psychopaths like Norman make a lot of money with their lies. People believe propaganda more if it comes from a non-biased source. So it pays very well when a Jew attacks the Jewish state. After all, who cares if someone Muslim says something nasty about the Jewish state? But if a Jewish person says it…

[@Saby217]

​@@the_zendenHe will have to at some point if he wants respect from his own children.

[@dmldml9260]

I have such an enormous respect for how mr Finkelstein conducts himself in situations like this. BRAVO!!!!

[@hamodi20091]

“The issue before us is Gaza, it is not me” This old man is a legend 😂🐐

[@MAli-nw4jq]

☠️💀🤣 they way proffersor says it made me laugh😅

[@davidhepnerr]

Piers: Should Hamas remain in power in Gaza? "Professor" Fakenstein: ahm... oh... well... ahm... It is hot today, isn't it?

[@Open_your_mind786]

Norman spoke like a true King 👑 when he said this. Defending the innocent people is more important than giving into selfish desires of petty pointless arguments.

[@JohnIvory713]

@@davidhepnerr you must not have been watching: “If Hamas should be removed from power, so should the Isreali government for killing more people”

[@hassanbaig4375]

​So you want to bring in context for Israels actions but don't want to bring in context for Hamas's actions?! ​@@davidhepnerr

[@kargoo-ws6fz]

shmuley had a free medical consultation, he must thank professor norman who very quickly detected his dementia problem

[@MA-ts9qt]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@hamzanawazcheema8107]

😂

[@georgiostaskasaplidis8492]

Socrates told: "Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people". Well I think all of them are represented in this conversation and who is who is a very easy task.

[@fitzjafaru7107]

😂😂😂, very perceptive.

[@karebergengren6862]

You are so right

[@MidnightSunshine27]

So true!!

[@bachirchabane1603]

Awesome and Amazing quote from Socrates. That's why thousands years later, people still talk about and remember him.

[@dgim7]

Socrates would never debate Norman - he may be let him wash the dishes . Norman had made a carrier in Hating his own people - Socrates would not accept this

[@stagssix9504]

Piers morgan doing his "but do you condemn hamas?" again desguised as "do you think hamas should stay in power? "

[@jessy1982]

It's a nonsenical question given the Palestinians in Gaza are facing certain death or expulsion and trying to find a way for them to stay alive and in place at all is the first requirement before any kind of leadership is discussable.

[@user-in07kr12]

​@jessy1982 Hamas put them in that situation by their reckless Invasion into a sovereign country on Oct 7.

[@rtavan]

​@@jessy1982Because you idiots are avoiding the question. Hamas are terrorists like Al Qaeda and isis

[@droidzz7858]

@@user-in07kr12it was a planned resistance attack, that mossad mysteriously couldn’t see coming from a mile away. Don’t illegally occupy another country’s land and expect them to do nothing.

[@MuhammadUmar-zb6hf]

​@@user-in07kr12well what else were u expecting them to do?.....to let Jewish people enjoy their freedom and rights in a sovereign state while their freedom rights and country has been stolen by the same.......the only conclusion to a peaceful start is to give a Palestinians authority which will think about property of their lands....unless u do it or things like oct 7 will continue on forever

[@aishcreamsundae]

Norman Finklestein is a SAGE. His calmness when dealing with an idiot is magnificent. May God give him a LONG life to continue to speak the truth.

[@MarkG-yr6un]

He sounds like Biden and did not make a single decent point - wtf is wrong with you??

[@vok7584]

​@MarkG-yr6un, too many woke individuals these days. Liberals!!! This "Frankestein" guy is a very slow mind who is only trying to please his pay masters. Biden reloaded!

[@annesmith159]

​@@MarkG-yr6unIsraeli bot 😢

[@traderjourney8652]

​@@MarkG-yr6un my thought exactly.

[@chebailey950]

​@@MarkG-yr6unzioNazi getting uppity..

[@MuhammadUsmanMughal99]

Shmuley has talked about everything in the World EXCEPT for the Israel-Palestine War.

[@theulins2896]

he's so calm when both of them tried to "push him". Thank you Mr Norman.

[@ellie.l6585]

I get the feeling that Norman Finkelstein's pulse rate never goes above 25 beats per minute.

[@Chemistrygreenleaf]

reptilian

[@razanalolimat]

God bless him

[@pointofpersonalprivilege6057]

I think he's half dead..

[@IadoreyouMaxxy]

He sounds like an android robot weirdo

[@-ruzh24244]

The most manipulative person that exists in this world . Speak in slow motion , ignores every question , and just got demolished with facts that he almost started crying

[@jamesc210]

Keeping a very calm tone is the best way to talk to Shmuli. He just wants to rile up the other person and sidetrack from the topic at hand. Norm didn't entertain it

[@xoxamyyyx]

Exactly

[@francojoaquim569]

OF COURSE... BECAUSE HE IS A DENIER OF THE GENOCIDE FROM ISRAELIS TO THE PALESTINIANS.... PALESTINE LIVES IN APPARTIED......

[@alexanderbergh830]

Norman is really a genius. He was in full control the entire time.

[@lifecrazyfr]

@@alexanderbergh830 have you read a single Finkelstein paper or book because I dunno how you could read any of his scholarship and come away with a “he’s a genius!” Conclusion.

[@mohdfarhan5255]

@@lifecrazyfr you sound like Schmuli, like you ever read it. I rather believe in an actual jewish prophesor whose parent is a victim of a holocaust trying to prevent history repeating agian than a rabbi trying to protect himself.

[@minerva566]

Let this rabbi on TV more often, he's serving our Cause as Palestine Supporters.

[@sazidfarhan8515]

Why are we having a debate between a scholar and a nobody again?

[@cokesmocker39]

Twinklestein is a clown no matter how you feel about schmooley.

[@bkasnita2161]

@@cokesmocker39Nobody agrees with you

[@HR4_]

​@@cokesmocker39 The only clown here is you bud

[@nycsfinest4712]

Doesn't rabbi smuley's daughter have a se× shop 😂😂😂😂

[@nycsfinest4712]

Doesn't rabbi smuley's daughter have a se× shop 😂😂😂😂

[@Hydra-V]

It was an insult to Norm, bringing the utterly lacking in integrity Shmuley as debater. Shmuley does not do "complete picture". Shmuley does not do serious. Shmuley is a caricature...he doesn't believe his own bs.

[@ranapour]

Shmuley is a Zionist scholar. He is the author of Kosher Sex: A Recipe for Passion and Intimacy. His daughter Chana followed up on her father's theme years later. In 2019 when she was 28 years old she opened a Kosher Sex shop in Tel Aviv.

[@nothingbuthuman6560]

Norman should choose whom he debates

[@nisahmed9121]

Professor Norman Finkelstein is debating a serial liar clown!

[@col2959]

Their called lies

[@vickysharpe11]

Spot on 🤣

[@junaidmehmood5105]

It was such a shame a scholar like Dr. Norman Finkelstein had to debate someone like Rabbi Shmuley.

[@junaidmehmood5105]

Also, Piers is a terrible Moderator.

[@ymmp30]

Finkelstien a scholar? 😂😂😂

[@ras3636]

Lmao scholar

[@ultramagalatino]

Schmuly and his s toys

[@sarahhamilton347]

Finkelstein cannot say Hamas should not be in power, its the only way we suffer in the west, these cells of radicals pop up as one dies,and we can never agree to anyone on earth thinking that a people should be eradicated from this life. Remember these terrorist hate the west also. Fanatics

[@mbarakji]

There are no words to express how much I admire and respect Dr Finklestein.

[@TheCpobarnet]

Norman please don't return to Piers Morgan. You deserve to be interviewed by a real ethical unbiased journalist like the late Jon Snow. Piers is only in this for the money. You are a true hero that deserves a much better platform.

[@WonLotto100M]

Indeed. I feel exhausted watching that rabbi just rant on incoherently. He speaks for his ego not for the people

[@stanleycullen2690]

tbf tho Piers did at least attack Shmuley for failing to answer the questions and defended Norman for being unnecessarily verbally attacked

[@RobynShorrock]

totally agree with you. Piers did a poor attempt to moderate and I sincerely hope Norman does not have to attend another joke of a interview like this again with people who are incapable of having a intelligent debate.

[@TheNonpariel]

He converts more people by talking to people who disagree with him than with people who already agree with him.

[@Catb3333]

​@@RobynShorrockPierde is allowing Schmuly to doom himself. The more he speaks and blantly attacks Norman the better Normans image gets. I think this is great publicity. You can clearly see in this interview Norman is the bigger person here

[@jahidzaynal7334]

Can someone please tell Piers and all israeli advocates that the world didn't start on October 7th?! Why is israel's crimes seen as "response" to Hamas's attack, yet Hamas's attack isn't seen as a response to decades of israeli crimes? Why?

[@Burgalo2001]

And the main cause and effect is that Israel funded and crated HAMAS....

[@CoomerGremlinDGGfan]

We know. Terrorists have been attacking Israel for many years

[@khernandez46]

Because the Zionist led US gov, MSM, etc don't WANT anyone to see so they provide cover for Israhell and themselves even while they all scream for GENOCIDE.

[@_amura_xd248]

fr

[@Reave-ng3st]

Facts. But the evil ones want to spread denial as it hurts their zionist agenda.

[@jesusaaj]

Its so dishonest to say what Israel has been doing is retaliation but oct 7 wasn't. How do you start a movie or a show halfway and have an opinion in what the movie was about if you didnt watch it from the beginning? Its ridiculous.

[@khalidsaad1089]

Norman Finkelstein mopped the floor with Rabbi Shmuley without even talking. He just had to listen while smiling, and he won the arguments.

[@kingdra-winston3500]

lmao no tf he didnt

[@tinxaomxi3462]

@@kingdra-winston3500but he did

[@CrimeEnjoyer]

@@kingdra-winston3500 Yes he obviously did and the only people who think otherwise are delusionally fascist zios like Smuley.

[@kingdra-winston3500]

@@tinxaomxi3462 he said a whole bunch of nothing tbh. Mohammad hijab did a better job and even he wasnt that good

[@miralabualjadail4206]

Yes he won by showing moral character making Shmpuly look bad

[@pixiedragon83]

You contradict yourself Piers...you say you don't think Israel is committing Genocide, and then immediately say you think the end game of Israel is the obliteration of most of Gaza and many people living there...are you aware of what the definition of Genocide is??...because you just described it in what you believe is happening...

[@nisahmed9121]

2 Israelis vs a Jewish voice for peace!

[@nini_aeranoid]

He doesn’t have the balls to publicly say that he thinks that Īsræl is committing Gēnōzīde, cause he’s a media whōre and doesn’t want to lose his career and privileges.

[@sudanbewaobdedebo]

Make up your F--king mind Piers, especially if you want people to keep watching your show. Step up your act PLEASE 🙏

[@lucasmoreno5330]

Shmuley is better suited to being interviewed in the Jeremy Kyle show. This was so embarrassing.

[@arunsalwan8558]

yeah he is clownish but Finkelstein is ridiculous as well

[@Dandelliondreams]

Hahah, I didn't know I came here to say this, before I came here and saw the best summation ever, bro: excellent Lucas!

[@Mindful0093]

😂 very true the guy is like unique in being unique I can’t think of a human behaving in that way that he is !

[@NDezzy6700]

Let them embarrassed themselves.. they are all the same

[@itsnadaaaa]

@@arunsalwan8558Finkelstein doesn’t shout or melt like a snowflake, there’s a difference

[@kaleikailikini2118]

Prof Norman Finkelstein, thank you for your courage, honesty, & speaking for all the innocent children killed in Gaza & Israel. You persevere with truth while being attacked. You are in our prayers, from Hilo, Hawaii

[@lchsin59]

Professor thank you for your absolute patience with a man who has nothing but absolute ANGER. WHAT A ANGRY MAN INDEED.

[@ottoman5713]

unholy shmoley

[@nightkingsavenger3827]

He was upset he cant using the antisemitic card again Mr. Norman a real Jew😊

[@KraffZava7350]

though he sure tried!@@nightkingsavenger3827

[@RadiantStar8997]

The personal attacks against Norman were disgusting to watch. He was right to question why Piers had invited Sumuley to debate him.

[@sammystouch3464]

Yeah we are angry because we are hated simply for existing. We just want peace, is that too much to ask. Bygones are bygones, you don't get anything back. Period. Move on

[@TheMaestromMephisto]

“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts. While the stupid ones are full of confidence.” - Charles Bukowski

[@dota4noobs360]

It's called "dunning kruger effect"

[@nycsfinest4712]

Doesn't rabbi smuley's daughter have a se× shop 😂😂😂😂

[@killablooz]

Applies perfectly to Finkelstein.

[@sayfeddinebentatou8662]

@@killabloozApplies to you sir

[@killablooz]

@@sayfeddinebentatou8662 How can it, when I'm full of doubts concerning Stinkelfein?

[@vocabliftpk]

I thought the Rabbi might get a heart attack due to the calmness of Professor Norman!

[@joesph322]

He isn't calm. He his just sick in his head. Trash diploma spot on

[@SirBobertThe3rd]

Being passionate about a subject close to his heart isn't anger. Learn to recognise the difference.

[@HussainLooth-yg9cf]

​@@joesph322 yeah cus a diploma is what gets a Dr Infront of your name

[@joesph322]

@@HussainLooth-yg9cf this "Dr " needs a Dr himself

[@ruleroftheuniverse1832]

The debate shows who the agressors are

[@missmymo96]

Norman is an absolute legend, he is one of the very few people that will tell the truth even if it means being outcasted from their own community.

[@stompthedragon4010]

" the issue before us is not me. it is Gaza." Way to go Norm!

[@generacion2636]

Shmuley is a fraud!!!!! The same that Shapiro they speak fast and make strange sentences to look smart but they both Shapiro and shmuley are a fraud!!!! 🤡 😂😂

[@jimmygirotto-9095]

How Norman finklestein kept his mind on topic and emotions in check after the barrage of personal attacks is admirable,we’ll done mate

[@hooligan9794]

Pity he couldn't keep his emotions in check when he was celebrating Oct 7th.

[@MB.77]

You’re right. It’s impressive.

[@joeburner7120]

@@hooligan9794He was not alone in celebrating.

[@hooligan9794]

@@joeburner7120 sadly and disgracefully true

[@TheJReZone]

​@@hooligan9794source?

[@Grant_BW]

As the moderator, Piers should correct Shmuley regarding the ICJ decision. Fact: The court ruled 15-2 in favor of South Africa that they made a plausible case that Israel is committing genocide.

[@jessy1982]

And one of the 2 was Israel's judge so had political bias.

[@polyticks8453]

Piers Morgan will never do that. He's there to play the role of appearing fair. He's not there to actually be fair. He and his production curates everything before airing these segments.

[@samben8915]

He is scared to lose his job

[@fortune392]

Wrong, they didn't. Christ, people are so idiotic. This is actual quote " at least some of the acts and omissions alleged by South Africa to have been committed by Israel in Gaza appear to be capable of falling within the provisions of the (Genocide) Convention.” Note the word ALLEGED

[@ayeee.w]

​@@fortune392 So how is he wrong? He also said "they made a plausible case". "Case" implies that what South Africa is "alleging" is plausible to call genocide. "People are so idiotic"

[@Tidfall]

The best way to make people start supporting Palestinians is to keep bringing Shmuley on air.

[@ade1963]

Professor Finkelstein's stance reminds me of Oscar Wildes's quote: "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man"

[@BrRizzy1]

Love it! ❤😂😂❤

[@mongofx]

Sums it up perfectly.

[@stephendoherty981]

Great comment👏👏👏

[@larrycapija8980]

But he didn’t reply a single question, he just parroted the same canned response.

[@Adoceltic]

Brilliant quote!

[@kamranasif2004]

How was this a debate? There was one guy who was giving references to law, history and quotes and using precise logic to present an argument and the other making personal attacks, presenting emotionally exagerrated arguments and calling names like a child. So this was no match! I would either like to see Douglas Murray vs Norman Finklstein or Ben Shapiro vs Norman Finklestein.

[@nimaabbasi1459]

According to Norman, Ben shapiro has avoided that debate with him

[@AngieStewart]

The Rabbi was clearly out of his intellectual element but maybe that was the kind of tv programming they were going for?

[@msbramble176]

@@nimaabbasi1459 So has Gutless Murray

[@lynncrf]

Neither will debate him unfortunately.

[@nfetiu]

Because Piers of §hit Morgan all he wants is VIEWS on KZbin. That's everything he cares of.

[@peterbolton6193]

Less than six minutes in and I can tell already that this Shmuley character is a complete madman.

[@supernova7848]

A complete nutter !

[@haveaniceday365.]

Can you think of the man of god Mr Rabbi and owns Adult Toy S*. That combination is more the mad man.I don't have a word for him other than why he is wearing two watches on his both hands?

[@mariamyosufi]

May God almighty Grant Mr. Finkelstein a long and healthy Life 🙏

[@MCV1105V]

I recall Christopher Hitchens characterizing Rabbi Shmuley’s debate style as “white noise.”

[@dLehman]

I think Hitchens was trying to be polite..

[@MrRamazanLale2]

Bitchens the lover of Bush 😂

[@sher09]

Hitchens was an incredible story teller and debater..he is missed

[@LeonApricus]

Christopher Hitchens was a narcissist, conman and warmonger. He died because of his degenerate lifestyle. His brother Peter has always been a more interesting character, and still lives today because of his better, healthier life choices.

[@milosheppard7261]

Schmuley also said in one of those debates that he valued human life above all things, being a Jew. It’s clear Schmuley got his check and became a mouthpiece for Netanyahu’s government.

[@dannijabara]

When i first heard about this, i was surprised Norman agreed to be on with Shmuley. I gotta say, it was a damn hard watch. Piers, Piers Morgan, you owe Norman Finkelstein an apology for allowing this to happen.

[@gigiizzy5651]

Norman Finkelstein ows me 10 minutes of my life back for going rounds in circles to avoid a simple question. And every other Jew for his vile and frankly evil response to the October 7th attack.

[@Qanitanita99]

FACTS

[@Qanitanita99]

​@@gigiizzy5651What do you want, so that you are happy? Get them in jail?

[@mohamadtarekislam8066]

Yes.

[@georgiamulhall284]

Well said

[@blackwhite5879]

Actually, shmuley solved the israel-palestine issue here in the debate - take Israel to Florida. That's so radical but a workable one.

[@sexonlithium]

And here I thought Florida couldn't get worse 😂

[@jxdieoneofive1072]

@@sexonlithiumwas jus thinking ab never seeing disney world the same again😂😂

[@officialjunot]

Why, Florida? Why even Israel? They don’t need either state because they have the state of New York.

[@reythatake5955]

110 even Canada doesn’t want Israel 😂

[@vorbo01]

Absolutely not. We don't want them here

[@mohmmadkhuder-pj9ox]

Coming after professor Finkelstein's family and doubting his mental helth to discredit him and avoid discussing facts...is just DISGUSTING

[@BLOME777]

It seems to be a general trait across the board.. pulling the mental card and ad hominem in order to deflect.. Even today a shill told me to "stop drinking all day" even when i don't drink xD

[@personaldevelopment9874]

“If you want to know who rules over you, just look for who you are not allowed to criticize.”

[@lf9341]

Yeagh, damn Muslims!

[@georgerockwellll6143]

✡️✡️✡️

[@asifasad4880]

Yeah people with small hats 😂​@lf9341

[@RadiantStar8997]

The best answer came from Norman Finkelstein who said ""if one is able to be consistent, I'd think you find that neither party deserves to be in power, and certainly israel has committed a far more vast number and degree of crimes." AND ... "if israel is only doing this as a response to october 7th, what do you think Hamas's crimes were a response to? Could it be a response to the decades of concentration camps and land seizures?"

[@democratsrepublicansbothan7973]

Smooly is wrong. The march was not just for George Floyd it was for the whole history of tyranny slavery genocide against black Americans. And black people around the world under neo colonialism

[@karanthaker2191]

Why was Schmuly allowed to yap like a little chihuahua uninterrupted for 20 mins at a time despite answering 0 questions, but finkelstein gets interrupted seconds into his answer when asked a really complex question

[@bobwilliams4895]

Lol at seconds. Frankenstein talks like his brain can't process.

[@vjtm7061]

Lol a Karan asking a Karen question.

[@elchapoguzman4249]

because piers works for the zionist lobby

[@murpht2012]

😂😂@@vjtm7061 You don't see that often🤣

[@bob45142]

​@vjtm7061 do uk how old norman finklestein is he is 79 years old and he thinks about his answers before saying it. I think u guys are antisemitism because look at how u are insulting a man whose parents were aushwitz victims

[@eleni8920]

Did anyone notice Norm calming himself at the end of the interview? At one point, he closed his eyes when being attacked as if in meditation. The man has great self-control.

[@dreamshore_music]

lol yeah... and then he goes "thank you... Piers" , felt like he didn't even want to aknowledge all the lies & adhominems by the other dude

[@adhisanjaya235]

Hahaha, he try to refuse an fact you ppl 😂. Same like you all, refuse fact hamas start attack on 7 of october

[@j_freed]

Yes, two rules of debate that he learned from Chomsky: don't get emotional, keep going back to the facts.

[@x__thesickest6388]

​@@adhisanjaya235 must be nice spewing lies knowing any truths thrown back at you get censored by KZbin. 😂

[@adhisanjaya235]

@@x__thesickest6388 hhh isnt true? Ye all refuse hamas as the disaster maker? Ye all see hamas as hero right? Dont lie 😂

[@normmacdonald1]

Respect to Norman Finklestein for remaining so calm and responding so logically when being personally attacked by that load mouth

[@Bobby0505]

I didnt even watch the video yet. But i feel its very disrespectfull to put someone like shmoley with Prof. Norman Finkelstein who stands for truth and knowledge and honesty. Who invested so much of his life in studying and teaching. One of the most influencial people in the world in his expertise. He deserves way more respect.

[@FND-GH]

Professor of what?

[@ifyoudidntknownowyouknow1208]

Professor of truth​@@FND-GH

[@Matt_H_]

Second only to Hitler. 😂

[@beetie1308]

​@@FND-GHi think he has a website, Im assuming all his academic teachings and writings are listed

[@bjjblue]

Professor of biased

[@jish2008]

"The issue before us is Gaza, it's not me. Now, there is a temptation obviously on my part to defend my professional honour and my personal honour, but I am going to withstand that temptation, and end on the note that this conversation began" respect omg !! What is that is amazing all respect to you !!!

[@phillaysheo8]

That is why Norman was a clear winner. Magnaminous words at the end.

[@Stephen-lt1tp]

@@phillaysheo8 lol so you support hamas? Should the Native Americans also take on the US government? Should Tibet take on the Chinese army? Why not?

[@TheMrCalindo]

@@Stephen-lt1tp do yu even read your comments before posting them? or think twice before doing it?

[@Stephen-lt1tp]

@@TheMrCalindo lol Why are you scared of answering my questions? Was Churchill wrong for bombing/ 500,000 German civilians/?

[@Stephen-lt1tp]

@@TheMrCalindo why are you scared to answer my questions lol. Is USA wrong for bombing Japan?

[@yazero1]

It's fascinating and admirable how Norman stays focused on the core of the problem rather than getting bogged down by personal grievances or distractions. His ability to remain unfazed by petty criticism and his refusal to engage in unnecessary explanations demonstrates his commitment to facts. Kudos to him. And no, not all questions have black and white answers; some are open to debate, just like the answers themselves. This is why advocates and lawmakers engage in a series of debates before reaching conclusions.

[@chadirvine9700]

Cause he's been doing this since back before the reality could be broadcast to the world by individual civilians. Everyone was fed bullshit and we ate it and he was blacklisted by the AIPAC. Now he's got the world on his side after years of libel and rich college kids crying about the bullshit at his lectures

[@somaticspirituality]

Norm has been the target of it for so long, had his career derailed etc, he's made a lot of sacrifices in his life and this is a moment he's really shining, it's the product of a lifetime of dedication

[@MuhammadAli-cw1ed]

Norman Finkelstein. I love this man. At 42:22 he listens to an array of insults from Shmuley, and simply responds, 'The issue before us is Gaza. It is not me.' Amazing.

[@YaaqoubEtwani]

Such a debate! Sublimity vs nastiness Politeness vs rudeness Consistency vs contradiction Knowledgability vs charlatanry

[@Bobochee]

Exactly! That Rabbi is trash

[@jjohn408]

“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy" Haaretz, October 2023

[@liline1ctou]

Please elaborate im not quite sure to understand Thanks​@@jjohn408

[@mar-vl2bb]

😂😂👍

[@aoda1240]

right vs wrong

[@dr.earnest.ujaama]

Shmuley just said South Africa lost their case. Shmuley doesn't read. He is a talker. South Africa prevailed on all of their provisions except the "ceasefire," which they did not need because of the wording in the ICJ ruling and the other provisions that would require a ceasefire to accomplish the provisions. Shmuley is also repeating myths spread by the IDF. The court wrote, "Israel must take immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance to address the adverse conditions of life faced by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip" (p. 23). The Court further ordered Israel by sixteen votes to one, to "take all measures within its power to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to members of the Palestinian group in the Gaza strip" (p. 25). You can read the order at the ICJ website. It is only 29 pages.

[@janetpahima2404]

Not one person on the program described the judgment correctly. And you have not either.

[@409CJ]

​@@janetpahima2404South Africa's claim to ICJ was so problematic to Israel that the ISRAELITES called the ICJ antisemitic. 😂😂😂😂

[@dr.earnest.ujaama]

@@janetpahima2404 I am writing a book on it. I have the 29-page judgment, so please, enlighten me.

[@dr.earnest.ujaama]

I also read South Africa's original Application and have it. And I also have CCR's case, as well, which has received little attention despite being the first legal case accusing Israel of committing genocide. I am looking forward to your response.

[@mideastgirl8926]

@@dr.earnest.ujaama janet just tries to confuse you. pls do not take it seriously. you are absolutely right and did a great job by explaining it so well.

[@amerqarabsa2793]

if i can cruise life with the same patience of Dr.Finkelstein in this interview I am satisfied

[@TahmidAhmed-s1f]

Islam is the way of life

[@steeleheroesmedia4699]

When you are a disingenuous liar, life is EASY.

[@ilyas_elouchihi]

​@@steeleheroesmedia4699ok clown

[@donttouchyerbumnsniffit]

​@user-ll8rz9zp2o If you have the mindset of a sheep then yes 😏🐑

[@happyhouse4948]

@@TahmidAhmed-s1f Well he is not a muslim, so that doesn't help much

[@b.c627]

I’m a simple man.I see Dr. Norman I watch fully 😊

[@Mostafa_Ser]

Professor Norman's remarkable consistency and precision is very clear as he navigated the questions with unwavering focus, maintaining an attractive demeanor marked by politeness and patience. Even in the face of successive accusations and interruptions, his unwavering professionalism made him truly exceptional.

[@beebeebee7000]

Did we watch the same interview?

[@thomassharmer7127]

I am British and I have no problem saying that the carpet bombing of German towns and cities was indeed immoral, even though the war on the Nazis was justifiable. By the same token, I can say that the tactics being used by the Netanyahu government of Israel are unjustifiable without my being in any sense anti-semitic or even anti-Israeli. There are plenty of Jewish people, including close friends of mine, who do not support Netanyahu or what he is doing.

[@jessicalacasse6205]

jewish people can live everywhere no like an us president put a travel ban on em ... you cannot be a rape victim who start raping others ...maybe the chosen people thing should be remove if not you just like th Nzi guys we can only judge on action

[@asht750]

True! This is what happens when religion penetrates our society

[@YouJGSousa]

Do you Jew friends have to live next to Hamas? Or do they live in the safety of the west?

[@khernandez46]

​@@YouJGSousaWhat you really meant to ask do your friends have to live under BRUTAL occupation and have for 75 years?

[@YouJGSousa]

@@khernandez46 Israel left Gaza in 2005, so if there was a brutal occupation, it was Hamas doing it.

[@Jemma29]

The speaker who always gets emotional and personally attacks, loses every time.

[@ChaimBulua]

Boteach destroyed Fink

[@itsnadaaaa]

Shmuley melts like a snowflake in every “debate”

[@joanhager528]

Then there is the zombie Finkelstein.

[@sanab210]

@@ChaimBulua in your dreams ;

[@mirjahmlinen2698]

Norman Finkelstein lost. He cannot discuss. He wants to speak monologs and listen to his own horrible voice!

[@jmuniz15]

When someone doesn't have a credible defense they directly go to personal attacks.

[@azzyfreeman]

This was facts vs fiction/drama, prof. Norman always sides with truth and humanity

[@עינתכהן-ח4ל]

Rabbi Shmoli ground him to dust. This idiot Norman turned out to be a complete liar and crazy. He doesn't even remember the things he said and did.

[@nisahmed9121]

Professor Norman Finkelstein is debating a serial liar clown!

[@yashmin786]

Schmuley denies Gaza deaths....then calls Norm a Holocaust denier after his own family were massacred in the Holocaust

[@sarahalaf1986]

That’s the case with the entire nation of Itsnotreal

[@Mazyartube]

When someone starts the conversation by pesonal attacks (which seems to be in most of Shmuley's interviews), you know they have nothing to say in regard to the topic discussed...

[@tahabharmal6909]

true

[@lauriethomason1937]

It really makes him look bad and it makes isreal look bad . He has no solutions and is always abusive

[@mordechaikohn5434]

Piers starts off asking Shmuly if he feels his rhetoric against Finkel on x is warranted. And he answered the question by expressing his anger with Norman's shortcomings. Then Piers lies in a response that he asked him to respond to the question of Gaza instead Shmuly attacks his opponent. Which wasn't the case

[@tnndll4294]

That he praises terrorist groups like Hezzbolah is relevant. professor he is not.

[@davehug5405]

@@mordechaikohn5434exactly piers lead that question

[@ringmaster1727]

Please keep bringing Schmuley on. A pro Palestine voice could never make Israel look like shit as effectively as Schmuley does by defending it in the most disingenuous and psychotic fashion.

[@MontanaRealtyCompany934]

No hes perfect for your cause. Hes a great metaphor for the idf and their morals.

[@tessa.j]

Lmfao yessss. This psycho is unraveling the Zionist entity himself.

[@patrickrilana]

Lock HIM up for hate speech free PALESTINA 🇵🇸

[@ApostateAIaddin]

I find Shmuley pretty convincing. Idk what planet the rest of you are living on.

[@chuletaization]

@@ApostateAIaddin 179 to one. Talk about ratioed. LOL.

[@sealbeater]

I wish I could stay as calm as Norman Finkelstein.

[@davidi5195]

He was not calm..he was due for next dose of Nuvigil....went to sleep right after.

[@lets_wrapitup]

@@davidi5195thank you for displaying your incompetency for anything other than ad hominem, much like your friend shmuley.

[@radwaibrahim9276]

Gosh the envy I feel towards him😅😅

[@anisdesai4692]

@sealbeater. I know right! Gotta rate his patience. But I guess he has been the circuit many times with such discussions with such people that is just so used to this kinda discourse

[@kwameamo1194]

I think Piers doesn't know his job as a moderator, the rabbi is just talking and doesn't know what he is talking about, he even misquoted the ICJ ruling and Piers refuse to correct him, and still allowed him to continue talking.

[@catherinethomas1276]

You're joking right ? Ijc? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@khairolshukri2341]

Totally agreed!

[@zoralinman]

Exactly, fake neutral.

[@silentwitness536]

sit and be quiet and learn truth.@@catherinethomas1276

[@nisahmed9121]

2 Israelis vs a Jewish voice for peace!

[@tawhidsajeeb2553]

Once a wise man said, Doesn’t matter how intellectual you are! You can't win a argue with a barking dog, you just can't bark like it.

[@WORKERS.DREADNOUGHT]

If you lie down with a pig you both get covered in shite - but the pig likes it.

[@mojbr704]

but i see a rational man who is straight to the point discussing the issue not the people, people's responsibility to keep focused on the point of the interview, Norman is winning every time cause he speaks facts

[@Abalkacem]

Well said

[@alexb9969]

Finklestein just sounds stoned here

[@WORKERS.DREADNOUGHT]

Finkelstein sounds slow because he is containing himself whereas Schmuley is not. Imagine yourself having top deal with someone dissing your mum like that.@@alexb9969

[@quotivation47]

Norman Finkelstein's composure is LEGENDARY!!!!!

[@AnEs77644]

Having a renowned scholar debate a sex shop owner is beyond insane to me.

[@wkwk9367]

👏

[@RagnarCrumpets]

Dildos are very important to the Jewish community. Don't be anti-semitic sir

[@Spartos83]

😂😂😂

[@steveryder1174]

Na'am

[@liena7907]

And then he calls himself Rabi

[@mohammedsharif736]

As the saying goes "A WISE MAN SPEAKS AND A FOOL TALKS"

[@MomodouLaminCham-p2f]

😂😂

[@itsme_shanti]

Hind Rajab was with her family in a vehicle when all were murdered by IDF. Was she a hamas terrorist that was "surgically" targeted?

[@mrtaha360]

If you look like an Arab then you're hamas

[@StrapOnPleasureMachine]

No she wasn't a Hamas terrorist but she was fake news though. 📰😅

[@ballinspalding11]

​@@StrapOnPleasureMachineI find it surprising that humans support the IDF who butcher children and babies in diapers. Like the example she just quoted that you ignored.

[@StrapOnPleasureMachine]

You are Atheist and pro choice both of those are death sentences under Hamas. I am not kidding look up what Hamas did to women.

[@Musthecrazygooner]

Preaccccccch !!!