IsraelPalestine For Critical Thinkers: #15 Unresolved

In the last episode of Israel-Palestine For Critical Thinkers, Richard Bass summarizes issues that remain unsettled in the peace negotiations between Israeli and Palestinian leaders.
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Host:
Richard Bass
Animated by:
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Music Composition & Sound Design:
Allan Levy
Written by:
Richard Bass & Thought Café
Script Consultant:
Matthew de Zoete
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[@anshulkhandelwal44]

Binge watched the entire series after the recent outbreak of war. I just developed a whole lot of new perspective after watching the series. Brilliant unbiased content!

[@honestfriend767]

Same

[@doziaonyeguli5814]

Here in 2023 , This Series made the even current events make more sense .

[@sofdemi8042]

This series was very informative, thank you. I hope you'll do an update soon.

[@juliaanna578]

My personal impression on the conflict: I think it allways remains a bit difficult with too many layers and events in this conflict. Like many Jews had no own place and no safe space or suffered persecution while their ancesters and spirituality is based on this land. The Palestianes have been an established people living there for many centruries and the other arabs did not accept them either. Both sides have reasonalbe needs and claims on the land. I think the core is a philosophical conflict between the idea of self-determanation of the people and the idea of equality of the people, what makes it so hard to solve. Now the Palestians suffer problably the most of the conflict, why many call for their equality and wonder about emerging racism in Israel. On the other hand the claim of the lefty antiracist movements is a double standard because most Palestinian leaders make antisemtitic statements or never integrated a percentage of Jews like Israel did with its Arabs population, what makes a reasonable cohabition difficult. In addition, the history of antisemitism made the Zionist Jews so scared about living as a minority. A one state solution might is not reasonable due to violance and the conflict between equality and self-determination, the two state solution failed at camp David and it didn't went better afterwards. I think both groups need a new goverment of a new generation to solve things, that can balance safty, equality, and the historical experiances. Well made and lovely animated. I think the videos explained Israel a bit better than Palestine, but the approach was very good. I missed a bit the mentioning of the more insane massacres between the groups in the early conflict e.g. Hebron 1929 or Deir Yasin 1948.

[@hx-flixblog4569]

This is by far the most objective series of videos documentary on the subject of the Palestinian/Israeli question I've seen on KZbin. Once you remove religious influence of a producer you can get an unbiased untarnished analysis on the subject. This was exactly what I was looking for in order to better understand this ongoing violent conflict. Thanks.

[@sofyaleyz]

Thank you so much for this wonderful series! It’s the most balanced presentation of the history of the region that I’ve seen. I have been looking for something like this for the past few weeks. Have you considered putting these videos up on Instagram, so they are easier to share?

[@tippytop6510]

Everyone should watch this series in today's time. Incredible piece of work 👏

[@jedimmj11]

Thank you for this terrific series. (I feel this summary episode was a little too even handed, "the intifada had casualties on both sides", but an incredibly valuable resource nonetheless)

[@terrybaptist795]

This was a very interesting video series.

[@ellieatthejewishfamilyinst837]

Love that it was left open with the push to learn critical thinking skills going forward. An AMAZING series with so much value in getting people to the discussion and encouraging thoughtful questioning and discourse rather than emotional rhetoric or misinformation. Thank you!!!

[@golactico1178]

This series of videos appears to be a very rare thing, i.e. KZbin content on the Middle East conflict that presents factual information, offering both points of view and leaving the viewer to make up their own mind.

[@alanwelch9216]

Here I thought it was just more religious violence but really it's my own country of the UK which I feel caused the majority of the current issues with offering the same land to multiple people...jeez the British legacy sure is..... something Thank you for a wonderful series very eye opening stuff

[@ms.crystal8280]

Thank you for explaining this. It is hard to follow otherwise. You did a perfect job.

[@fluffymimi6748]

Very informative, thank you

[@gogrape9716]

It is wonderful to encounter such a rich source of factual information on a very complex situation. Thank You.

[@RocketChild]

Thanks for this series. Learnt a lot

[@steventennant106]

This series is amazing!

[@leonardotonatiuhcastillohe1734]

Thanks for this excelent production. Greetings from Mexico!

[@joeyr3357]

Thank you for creating this, has been put together exceptionally well for the purpose of depicting the relevant issues without forcing specific points of view on the audience.

[@kaceyross8955]

I feel that the Native Americans have it right. No one can really own the land. You certainly cannot take it with you. God is in your heart, wherever you go.

[@cooloox]

Actually, this pretend God is the cause of so many issues between nations. If we dropped religion altogether, we might all start getting along, rather than my fantasy is better than yours nonsense.

[@nashienoo]

fantastic, clear, concise, good visuals... Thanks!

[@alexplotkin3368]

This series should be used as a teaching resource.

[@kshathriya]

Spectacular series . Thank you 🙏❤️

[@Forcriticalthinkersseries]

Thank you for your feedback.

[@joemackenzie5903]

Loving the vids, get it up

[@alanwelch9216]

This seems unbiased to me, however if someone disagrees in either direction, I'd be happy receive a link to a different Series, any takers?

[@andyw8025]

This series is very good but this video by Warographics is also fantastic. It covers the modern Israeli-Palestinian history in great depth and in a very unbiased fashion. kzbin.info/www/bejne/npW8i6eIhsSYm9Esi=_g-UzQjLGvhQSKD0

[@Menanddragons]

Thanks for the actual history. So many videos on the topic made general statements that were clearly not enough to understand what was actually going on.

[@alaajom]

I watched all of your 15 episodes and you done a good job narrating facts but in my opinion you took Israeli side (for example: you didn't mention anything about haganah gangs & others killing, rapping, and kicking :civilians, the land owners and non armed people to claim the land for the Jews alone) so it's not fair to take sides if you want to be just and honest Critcalthinker

[@hx-flixblog4569]

I'm sure there is a lot that was left out but that's understandable considering the length of this series. Never the less, the most important points of history were presented to my satisfaction. This was a kind of synopsis for a more in-depth study which is mentioned at the end of each chapter.

[@alexplotkin3368]

They didn't discuss the execution of Israeli prisoners of war by Syria and Egypt in the 1973 war. Your side committed PLENTY of atrocities. Do you object to the fact this series shows the Palestinians have turned down every peace deal with Israel? And that the series shows the Palestinians rejected partition in 1947. The truth hurts doesn't it.

[@webbophone3377]

Very interesting series! Ultimately, very sad, though.

[@emmafialkoff7684]

Thank you for the excellent series. It is great to have so much valuable information presented so coherently. My one criticism is that it does feel like you lean toward Israel's side, so you might consider including more information -- such as the riots and massacres on each side, and the role of revisionist zionism and the Irgun and Lehi.

[@HxH2011DRA]

Ah so it's over now?

[@kaceyross8955]

There is still much to learn on this topic

[@Hannah.Belle.]

Just finished watching the entire series. This was very informative. As an outsider to this conflict, all I can say is both sides have a point. Both were also wrong on some points. With what's going on there right now, I don't think who is right and who owns this or that matters anymore. We are all human beings. I sincerely hope peace for them and that they see eye to eye.

[@Forcriticalthinkersseries]

Thank you Hannah.

[@amberdean4984]

Who is Richard Bass? Like why does he make these videos?

[@gilanglukman6135]

He is the founder of Emet Education. You can search that up.

[@alanivar2752]

an educated populace benefits all

[@foryourspirit3995]

Applause, applause, applause etc.........

[@terrybaptist795]

Subcribed thumbed up rang your notification bell?

[@Forcriticalthinkersseries]

Awesome thank you!

[@user-rn2ky8bs5g]

BALFOUR DECLARATION :The promise of who doesn't have to those who don't deserve! (Free palestine)

[@cooloox]

Free the world from religion, just ban it altogether, then we might all get along far better.

[@jabu3553]

@@cooloox if u read about islam with a open mind u will see it's the truth

[@ompskatelitty5356]

@@cooloox communist countries have tried it, with china literally putting muslim uighurs in concentration camp for practicing their religion. This is just not a good idea, and i am saying it as an agnostic israeli.

[@adriankamt3261]

why Jerusalem just don't became some kind of """""Vatican"""" or Switzerland a neutral spot

[@Forcriticalthinkersseries]

Thanks for your question Adrian. In the proposed United Nations Res. 181 in 1947 Jerusalem was to become an 'international zone' as you alluded to but the Resolution was not accepted by Arab leaders so it was never ratified as a treaty and therefore never achieved any legal standing.

[@jabu3553]

@@Forcriticalthinkersseries biased for israel prolly funded by some Israeli or evangelicals

[@davidtamiran]

For 3000 years, Israel was the Eternal Capital of the Jews. It will Never be divided!!!

[@hannahmasih1923]

Wonderful series , enough to tell to whom Israel belongs. It was always a Promised Land to us , no politics after that. 🔥♥️

[@Forcriticalthinkersseries]

Thank you for your feedback.

[@cooloox]

If you don't buy into religious BS then you're not being totally honest. It was promised to the Jews and the Palestinians.

[@hannahmasih1923]

@@cooloox really ? I don't find any scriptures confirming that , do you ?

[@bjornpillay8718]

My brother falls asleep than it is me

[@iJay2000]

I am Atheist and really believe all religions should be stripped out of power. However this series just shows that if anyone has any claims on the area based on religion, it's the jewish people who were there before the other religions even existed...

[@rawanq8740]

But your an atheist so logicaly you should side with natives of the region who were born and raised their since hundred years ago. Not immgrates who came by force under an a religion claim 🙄.

[@maharizvi1821]

That proves the biasness of the series

[@Forcriticalthinkersseries]

Thank you for your comment Maha. Thousands of hours of research were put into the creation of the videos in this series and primary sources from all sides were used. I would welcome hearing which claims "proves the biasness of the series"?

[@rawanq8740]

Why my comments keeps being removed 😒

[@cooloox]

@@rawanq8740 I'm an atheist and I agree with you to an extent. If it was that simple. The issue is - populations have been wiped out or infiltrated/replaced so many times over history, it cannot work that way. We cannot trace back to original habitants and say 'have this back'. I think now that we have 'mostly' passed primitive times, the past is the past and it's best left as that. Any nation now, whether resulting from an invasion or otherwise, should stand - if those nations have built the land to what it is now. Meaning, all the labour and expense of creating infrastructure, employment, social systems etc. Why should some people who once were primitives have rights to get back a land infinitely more developed than it ever was at their time of reign?

[@user-jo2ks9xj6c]

جةغل

[@janetwunder3000]

Can you please translate into English? Thank you.

[@indykurt]

A Roman leadership (if you will) should take over all the land of Jordan, West Bank, Lebanon, Gaza, Golan, and all other places who wish to kill people for land in that area. Also take the political leadership of Israel. Now anyone who fights, fights against Rome and will be answered back in force. All land will be shared and all peoples will get along. The people in these areas only respect a strong hand so the World community needs to appoint that hand and give them the power and freedom to be what they need to be all the while overseeing and limiting expansion. This is the path to Revelation's words, your welcome. Yes, I know how it all ends and in one way, as long as all this turmoil is allowed to happen, the longer we will exist the way we currently do.

[@hamsterbass123]

propaganda

[@mahdi3561]

Free phalastine

[@jayremyjuarez5652]

1 kings 3 :16-28 now two prostitute came to the king and stood before him.one of them said,one of them said"My LOrd,this woman and I live in the same house.I had a baby while she was there with me.18the third day after my child was born,this woman also had a baby .we were alone.there was no one in the house but two of us.. 19 during the night this woman"s son died because she lay on him 20 so she got up the middle of the night and took my son from my side while i your servant was asleep.she put him by her breast and put her dead sonby my breast the next morning i woke to nurse my son-and he was dead!butwhen i lookedat him closely in the morninglight i saw that wastnt the son i had borne the other women said no the living one is my son; the dead one is yours but the first one insisted no!the dead one is your;the living one is mine and so they argue before the king.. 24then the king said"BRING ME A SWORD"so they brought a sword to the king.he then gave an order..cut the living child in two and give half to one and half to other...,.,.,.,in this case palestine and israel must obserb both the administered justice by GOD through our lord JESUS CHRIST...AMEN

[@cooloox]

Why are you reciting the utterly nonsense writings of stone-aged men in this topic?

[@jayremyjuarez5652]

@@cooloox this message is only for the people that have senses

[@mesuzuita]

I don't know. It was wrong from the start. Arabs and Jews and Christians lived side by side there in peace for centuries. When the Middle East was to be divided Arabs who lived there wanted to govern the land, living side to side with the Jews already there, they didn't want anyone out. But Jews wanted to come into the land from other part of the world and make it theirs. Ever since the world is trying to fix a mistake by more doing more mistakes. You can't find peace unless you untangle the main knot instead of trying to fix it to another shape.

[@ilanesh]

Israel is only for the jewish people G-d has given the land to the twelve tribes of Israel. There was never Islam befor there! Those wo willing to live in peace with Israel are wellcome. But not blood thirsty Terrorists. Again! There was never Palastine and will never be! Get a Live there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rv4002]

If you watched this series it tells a bit different story.

[@abdoz.7021]

​@@ilanesh You just say "hey! I just knew my grandfather was living here thousands of years ago so it's my right to live here and I gonna kick u out of your home" by such a stupid zionist inhumane mentality so people in the USA should leave their homes right now to the native Americans!! That's settler colonization and its existence in the 21st century is a shame to our Humanity! i even doubt if it's existed in this world!

[@iJay2000]

@@abdoz.7021 isn't that what happened to the jews who lived there before the muslins and the christians (as those religions didn't even existed before)? Israel has tried several peace offerings and the Arab world came out with the 3 NOs...

[@abdoz.7021]

@@iJay2000 Dude, two wrongs don't make a right! I do believe Jews belong there historically and I really support their existence there but I only condemn the ethnic cleansing process. They didn't came to share the land They came to kick out the indigenous Palestinians from their homes and replace them with only Jews! Is that okay with U? FYI, Arab Jews were living with Christians and Muslims in harmony in Palestine before the Zionists came. All Muslims, Jews, Christians or atheists there have the right to get equal treat whatever their race, religion, ethnicity, color are. Zionists instead made a majority state where one ethnic group (Jews) is privileged over another! Isn't that Racism, Injustice, and Inhumane?!

[@shainazion4073]

Jerusalem has nothing Holy to Islam!! The Al Aqsa mosque was not named or built until 70 years after Muhammed's death. They pretend that thst mosque (that was not named or built yet, was the al Aqsa mosque in the Quran) The Real al Aqsa mosque is in Ji'irrana, Saudi Arabia near Taif. Its written about in early Arabic sources as the mosque that Muhammed often prayed in. The only reason the Muslims want Jerusalem is because the it is so important to Jews.