Itachi & Nagato vs Each Hokage

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Virhtue

Virhtue

Күн бұрын

Edo Nagato and Itachi were single handedly Kabuto’s strongest assets not only noted by himself but demonstrably shown narratively aswell, so what would happen if these two monsters, that initially hinted Naruto and Bee for the eight and nine tails respectively c hinted The four hokage. This being ironic as the four hokage are Orochimaru’s main pieces on the board so what if each hokage was seperated individually rather than all sent to Obito’s battlefield and Nagato and Itachi intercepted them, and tried to kill them, could they win? Or does the hokage reign supreme?!!?
Time Stamps;
Introduction - 0:00
Itachi & Nagato - 1:04
Hashirama - 10:18
Tobirama - 13:57
Hiruzen - 25:58
Minato - 34:28
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@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 2 ай бұрын
Before we discuss Tobitama, please like the video. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
😭😭😭
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 2 ай бұрын
​@@Virhtue How did the FTG seal got on jubito?? This was kishimootos way of letting us know that tobirama is insanely fast. 👍
@rxquiem4574
@rxquiem4574 2 ай бұрын
What I find nuts about the itachi getting behind killer bee and having to TELL him that he's behind him is the fact that this is the same killer bee that was able to react to MINATO and point a kunai behind him so that he wouldn't get speed blitzed and killed during the fight with the Minato vs Raikage and Bee
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
This is a Jonin Minato, but pretty crazy
@stumpyalex503
@stumpyalex503 2 ай бұрын
Minato is rightfully hyped as ridiculously fast, and I do think he's faster than these guys, but I really do think guys like itachi, nagato and bee are on the same tier of speed, and not like blitz levels below him or anything
@lexogun1311
@lexogun1311 2 ай бұрын
​@@stumpyalex503it's just that ftg is busted and he can use different version of it with his already ridiculous speed. I also think these top tier shinobis are close in speed to him but the ftg is just as OP as kamui.
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 2 ай бұрын
​@@Virhtue was the FTG speed jonin too?? Kishimooto, confuses me sometimes. Minato is always using FTG. But in war arc, he is now insanely fast with natural speed 😮. Like, why not just blitz every opponent with body flicker, and put FTG to rest 🤔 Because minato was never really that fast, just too dependent on FTG, because he needed it more than tobirama.
@shawnlord3419
@shawnlord3419 Ай бұрын
It is impressive but bee didn’t react to minato. He probably saw minato’s justu formula on his tail and preped for a blitz
@exiledknight3961
@exiledknight3961 2 ай бұрын
Man I really want to see Hiruzen in his Prime and end this debate with him lol.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more
@jason15212
@jason15212 2 ай бұрын
Man it really sucks we never got to see the Hiruzen that was praised. I think the time period after Madara died and before Minato was born is the least covered part of the story. Would love to see some manga chapters or OVA’s about that time period. The fights with Tobirama and the Cloud brothers, Prime Hiruzen, The First and Second Great Ninja war in general.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
The second war had so much aura
@rrrrr.55555
@rrrrr.55555 Ай бұрын
I think I heard somewhere that it was under Hiruzen that the first war ended, although I'm not exactly sure of how they ended it. During the second war I don't think he fought much. In the flashbacks it's just the Sannin fighting. As far as I know, he's only shown in that period when Tsunade asks in a meeting to incorporate 1 medic ninja into each Team. About the second war: There seems like there was a lot of corruption at the time, because this is the war that Pain told Naruto that was started due to the Village having a lot of people and needing more resources, thus getting those resources through war. We even have flashbacks of Danzo and Hanzo working together (which might be the reason why Hanzo let the three Sannin live. Maybe that war was just a "make believe" war to get resources)
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 2 ай бұрын
Tobirama putting the bombs on jubito as well as the FTG seal, is meant to show off his speed. Kishimooto is clear, no need to be confused. Even madara acknowledges tobirama.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
And I explained both feats
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 2 ай бұрын
Madara literally says " look at you who once *boasted* the fasted shinobi ever" and after that said Tobirama was infamous for striking when his opponent is sure of victory i.e. off guard.
@Archer170
@Archer170 2 ай бұрын
@@ShadowFiend777He also said faith was on his side because you and your brother were not full power.Reading comprehension is a real problem in the naruto debating community.This is just a disingenuous argument to down play tobirama because he’s not an Uchiha friend.If kishimoto meant he liked saying he was fast he wouldn’t brother giving him relative showings with KCM2 minato,or having madara stat its a good thing you aren’t full power.Common sense man.
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 2 ай бұрын
@@Archer170 That's the problem, Tobirama doesn't have relative showing to full power kcm2 Minato or Kcm1 for that matter. It's all ftg, his base speed (or natural speed) is actually slower than Hiruzen.
@kelvinallen9327
@kelvinallen9327 2 ай бұрын
​@@ShadowFiend777 You need to look at the hiruzen fight in part 1. Tobirama combat & reaction speed was on par with hashirama. Later in the war he arrived same time with hashi. But with FTG, he is faster than both madara & hashi. 👍
@4thQuarter.Z
@4thQuarter.Z 2 ай бұрын
I’m loving this new surge of Naruto related content I’ve seen recently. Virhtue and FTG been going band for band🙂‍↕️🙌🏽
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Band for band😉
@lakithchandra8901
@lakithchandra8901 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video man
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it my man!
@NA-lf6ik
@NA-lf6ik 2 ай бұрын
Once again, a banger ❤
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Love to hear this…
@thomasheaden3376
@thomasheaden3376 2 ай бұрын
You made a banger with this one dawg!! Ima post again when I’m done watching 🔥🔥
@thomasheaden3376
@thomasheaden3376 2 ай бұрын
Alright ima minute in. This how I think it going. Hashirama is written as god so he’s gonna clear, minato clears off reaper(draw but win since he eliminated the threat the job of a hokage) The others do notttttt. Nagato and itachi individually are a handful but together they may stomp everyone. Let’s see 👀👀
@thomasheaden3376
@thomasheaden3376 2 ай бұрын
Great video man! Some real good in-depth breakdown fr. Good sht man!!!
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate that my man
@austinbrianbowers
@austinbrianbowers 2 ай бұрын
Great video man thanks for the entertainment
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Any time!
@primus_orion3933
@primus_orion3933 2 ай бұрын
I'm ready with a fresh rolled one for this hefty video 🙌
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@iliebalica4012
@iliebalica4012 2 ай бұрын
Same bro 😂😂
@SubZer00fucksgiven
@SubZer00fucksgiven 2 ай бұрын
What you rolling up with 😀
@Steven-rk3ky
@Steven-rk3ky 2 ай бұрын
Nice video topic
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@Spexz07
@Spexz07 2 ай бұрын
Nice video bro but the idea of Nagato Universal pulling people into Itachi's Totsuka blade is crazy and OP.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Yeah true, it’s insane the combos that he could pull off
@Reconciliations
@Reconciliations 2 ай бұрын
Hell of a topic 🎉
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@_GREASY_
@_GREASY_ 2 ай бұрын
banger after banger from Virhtue fuck yeah
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Thank you goat, gotta stay on top
@isshinkurosaki252
@isshinkurosaki252 2 ай бұрын
With this one you’ve definitely entered the territory of the unmatched. Honestly between you and ThunderGod I don’t even think your peers can catch up anymore. At this point I’m convinced there was some type of power scaler time skip I missed. 🙏🏾🔥
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate that Goat, I think that myself sometimes but I got to be humble🐐❤️
@thmistrapillay1811
@thmistrapillay1811 2 ай бұрын
Edo Nagato & Itachi are THE most broken hax tag team before SO6P powers. I TRULY believe no one beats both of those Edo combined. Their combined hax, versatility, Battle IQ & general Power Output are basically unstoppable
@lazairance
@lazairance 2 ай бұрын
Madara is basically both of them in one body. And achieved greater than their showings by using woodclones
@thmistrapillay1811
@thmistrapillay1811 2 ай бұрын
@@lazairance a lot of people like to pretend he's the combination of both of them but he's absolutely not He doesn't have the IQ or Battle IQ of Itachi He doesn't have the _ridiculous_ hax of Itachi He doesn't show anywhere _near_ the level of proficiency with the Rinnegan as Nagato And he's a LOT more wild in his fighting style and less tactical than either of them
@patrickcampbell4137
@patrickcampbell4137 2 ай бұрын
@@thmistrapillay1811Madara absolutely has a equal if not superior iq lol he’s been shown outsmarting obito, and the rest of the hokage. Basically had a hand in most of the conflict in Naruto. Nagato is using madara’s rinnigan so he’s able to use all the same techniques as him. has more Chaka than both and has a master of all five chakra releases. Fought the entire ninja alliance and almost killed the five kage alone. Nah they aren’t close at all
@thmistrapillay1811
@thmistrapillay1811 2 ай бұрын
@@patrickcampbell4137 1. Grooming a child, having him do literally ALL the work and then suddenly betraying him doesn't constitute as IQ 2. It may be his Rinnegan but Nagato has 1000% shown to be a better user and it's not even _partially_ close 3. Has a little more chakra than Nagato although that's debatable since Nagato is a FULL Blooded Uzumaki and Itachi has an insane out of chakra too. Plus all 3 are edo so chakra amount barely matters 4. The 5 Kage get absolutely dogwalked by Itachi & Nagato so nobody cares 5. Both Nagato & Itachi have spent most of their entire lives with the _literal_ world against them while they were in the Akatsuki and they mopped everyone they came across.... while they were human and not immortal untiring unlimited chakra zombies Yeah they are extremely close and Itachi is MUCH smarter and Both Itachi and Nagato hax abilities outweigh madara's 10 fold
@SA-js8sb
@SA-js8sb 2 ай бұрын
​@@thmistrapillay1811 How does itachi have higher battle iq and iq than madara ? Youre straight glazing Itachi. How does itachi have an insane chakra pool ?? Itachi and nagato would not do better than Madara in regards to the 5 kage . Itachi and nagato had the world against them in akatsuki ? well Madara was a child killing armies during the waring states era. washed most senju. Was the top dog during that era and the ms was more common during that time. Madara is an EMS user whereas itachi has ms and koto that too cause of shisui so I guess we can count hashirama cells and kyubi in Madaras arsenal. Fought against the whole shinobi Alliance which i dont see itachi pulling off alone lol. Madaras susanoo was tiers above itachis . Single handedly packed out ohnoki and muu . There is alot more too .
@xrim1139
@xrim1139 2 ай бұрын
Two uploads in a week virhtue is cooking one more thing id like to bring up is edo minato being able to like bijuu bomb them then seal them as another win con
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
I post every three to four days, out here working my a** off
@yeahyousowhat7841
@yeahyousowhat7841 2 ай бұрын
*We've never seen a bloodlusted, fully in control, non suppressed, Pain nor Nagato. Let that sink in. In addition to Pain and Nagato needed the PLOT to defeat them.*
@anonymous02847
@anonymous02847 2 ай бұрын
Prime Nagato would be insane.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Same could be said for Itachi aswell
@anonymous02847
@anonymous02847 2 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue agree, but itachi already showed so many inpressive stuff, where prime nagato didnt.
@CH1C4N0444
@CH1C4N0444 2 ай бұрын
Nagato is cracked 1. No one points this out, but it's stated Nagato was resisting Kabuto's control and was actively trying to die until Kabuto turns off his personality (Nagato actively tells Naruto how to counter his jutsus, warns Naruto and Bee about the Amaterasu, etc) 2. Nagato sees Itachi charging Amaterasu and warns Naruto, realizes Naruto wasn't the target and comments, "Ah, I see," before being "blitzed." 3. Itachi only attacks Nagato while Kabuto is distracted (yes, Kabuto, since Kabuto is in control and Nagato isn't). This is actually a character flaw in Kabuto that Itachi points out during the Sage Kabuto fight (Itachi says something like, "I only attack when you're sure of your own victory," during the Kabuto fight) 4. Kabuto wasn't in Sage Mode until after he fights Itachi and Sasuke, so the version who controlled Nagato was slower than the version who fought Itachi 5. Kabuto by his own admission was bad at utilizing Nagato 6. The Yasaka Beads seem to not be interconnected when he launches four, so either he's launching four individual beads or the beads no longer stay connected once four are being sent out, which to me either implies that the three interconnected beads should be more powerful than the four since they stay connected still and don't act independently of one another
@thmistrapillay1811
@thmistrapillay1811 2 ай бұрын
Same with Itachi honestly. Throughout all his accomplishments and feats, Itachi is a legitimate Pacifist. Imagine a bloodlusted Itachi
@derekseago9647
@derekseago9647 2 ай бұрын
i read the title and yelled out “lets go another fuckin banger”
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
I love to hear this, people actually enjoy my content🤔
@derekseago9647
@derekseago9647 2 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue of course ! i have to finish it later tho cause of work 😒
@Robbieuchiha
@Robbieuchiha 2 ай бұрын
Great video I’m on the higher interpretations of tobirama so I think he wins but that’s just my opinion keep up the good work
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Fair enough❤️ thank you
@KamranCreates
@KamranCreates 2 ай бұрын
Great video! It's crazy how little the "biggest of the big fish" statement in regards to the Hokage is brought up. Especially since the Japanese is even more blatant and calls them the "strongest soldiers" which further supports your interpretation. Here's the kanji if you want to check it out: "最強の兵ども、 起つ!!!!"
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, I’ve seen that translation but like like, huh must be a mistranslation, guess it was the other way around
@AidenB1010
@AidenB1010 2 ай бұрын
before watching the video: they destroy the 5 in the middle struggle with hashirama and lose to naruto
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Damnnnnnnn
@kabeloramaru23
@kabeloramaru23 2 ай бұрын
Blud is implying that Itachi and Nagato would lose to the kinkaku force
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Nah I think Edo is a lot better than alive
@temiadeyinka3675
@temiadeyinka3675 2 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue I don’t understand how Tobirama lost to them maybe Kishimoto retcon how strong tobirama was
@jason15212
@jason15212 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@temiadeyinka3675 The context of the situation is that he and the rest of his team including Hiruzen were exhausted and close to being out of chakra. It’s implied that even Hiruzen would’ve been killed had he gone back but should a better chance than the rest of the team(not including tobirama). Also I think Tobirama killed ginkaku(whoever is the weaker) prior to this last match. He was killed by the the unit not kin and gin.
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 2 ай бұрын
​@@temiadeyinka3675Kishimoto did not retcon anything, fans just like to overhype Tobirama.
@SubZer00fucksgiven
@SubZer00fucksgiven 2 ай бұрын
With the so6p tools it's not impossible I suppose. And 2 pseudo kyuubi Jin's is probably as tough as an opponent he would have come against
@_JonJon_
@_JonJon_ 3 күн бұрын
Good video fam. When kabuto was controlling Nagato , and itachi came out of nowhere with his susano, kabuto says himself that he wasn’t able to react, not Nagato. So it wasn’t Nagato not being able to react, it was kabuto not being able to react. If Nagato can react to kcm Naruto, trust me he can react to itachi.. nagato is over everyone there, even itachi, as far as speed, power, and amount of jutsu at their disposal. He literally blitz kcm naruto and put his hand on his stomach and started taking his soul out, while itachi was relative to bee and naruto
@thebigg8454
@thebigg8454 2 ай бұрын
Tobirama: Killing another Uchigger and a Uzumaki sellout who distroyed my village with Madara's eyes? Shit i dont need to go back, heaven is right here!
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Killing another what?!?!!?!!
@Noblesavage31
@Noblesavage31 2 ай бұрын
Virtue constanlty mentioning “dazed minato” lol anything to glaze the dude
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
No, to give a difference
@Noblesavage31
@Noblesavage31 2 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue there was really no true difference other than that he was shocked for a bit He is a Shinobi. He shouldn’t be like that under pressure I understand. Kakashi but by this point Minato was fully capable
@obsidianquill7949
@obsidianquill7949 Ай бұрын
@@Noblesavage31mental nerfs exist in naruto…
@grantwilliams93
@grantwilliams93 2 ай бұрын
You have consistently been making top tier content. Please keep up the great work! Id love a video with Toneri breakdown and him vs Juubito, War arc Naruto, War arc Sasuke, DMS, Kakashi, Madara, Kaguya, Momoshiki, Hagoromo, etc Id love to see you break him down and talk about where you think he fits in the hierarchy in terms of raw stats and ability matchups
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
I have planned on this before, not sure when, but anyway, appreciate it❤️
@Cyoulater7
@Cyoulater7 2 ай бұрын
You should make a Kid obito vs the konoha twelve video. Maybe a kid Minato too. And kid kakashi
@Virhtue
@Virhtue Ай бұрын
I’ve thought about it
@Cyoulater7
@Cyoulater7 Ай бұрын
@@Virhtue lessgo! He do be pondering
@AnassLouisOfficial
@AnassLouisOfficial 2 ай бұрын
26:03 ahh yes , Hiruzen , the famed “Processor” lol
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Did mess that up💀💀
@iftekharahmad2423
@iftekharahmad2423 2 ай бұрын
Many people don't understand how busted arsenal Itachi and Nagato have. In Edo they are not getting blitz and killed and the combo they can do is crazy. Imo 1. Hashirama 10/10 2. Tobirama 3/10 3. Hiruzen 0/10 4. Minato 9/10.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
W opinion
@AMAZIAH
@AMAZIAH Ай бұрын
Finally someone put respect on Edo Itachi's name. The amount of people that believe Edo Itachi is like Taka Sasuke level. When the narrative clearly displays him to be still a obstacle for Sasuke to overcome is hilarious. Its like what the heck were they reading? Itachi shouldnt be competing with KCM Naruto at all. But for him to just vanish from Naruto's perception. Shows he's faster than KCM. Bee blitzed KCM and Ay. Itachi blitzed him. Granted you can make some concessions to Naruto and Bee. But it doesnt change the fact the narrative would also implicate Itachi to be stronger than EMS Sasuke for a while too. He just doesnt have EMS Sasuke's longevity.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue Ай бұрын
For sure, he’s a monster
@rolion4424
@rolion4424 12 күн бұрын
Honestly I gotta say I think both Nagato and Itachi can take on Tobirama on their own individually, specially Itachi with his Susanoo, at least if it's Edo Tobirama he has the explosive tandem Tho well you really could argue he knows how to cancel their edo tensei, but I think he would have tried to do that with Madara if there was a way too, so it's more probable that only the caster can take down it's reanimations
@Twix44
@Twix44 2 күн бұрын
The fact that edo nagato was still surpress the entire time and he's being controlled by someone who doesn't even have full knowledge of the rinnegan and how to exploit nagato's abilities properly, too bad nagato wasn't in control of his own power because no one knows his abilities more than him so it's a good thing kishimoto nerf nagato to made him be controlled instead of having his mind and fighting for himself
@thiagocavendish2928
@thiagocavendish2928 Ай бұрын
EDO Nagato ~ EDO Itachi > Sage Minato Base Minato > All Hokage
@RanMaru144
@RanMaru144 2 ай бұрын
If tobirama>base hashirama in speed then his certainly a blitz level above itachi and nagato unless u don’t wanna think his faster then hashirama despite arriving to the battlefield before him
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
If he’s above this base hashirama in Edo and above it his KCM1.5 as shown it just grounds more of where a base Edo Hashirama scales
@treylearns634
@treylearns634 Ай бұрын
In no way is itachi superior to nagato. And in no way does he have ANY means of stopping chibaku tensei. Itachi basically had an opening to “blitz” nagato ONLY because he was distracted. Him blitzing the summons is in no way a comparison to nagatos actual speed. Nagato scales ABOVE his summons. I like itachi but he’s not exactly on nagato level.
@celsiusnebula
@celsiusnebula Ай бұрын
Nagato Universal Pulls them into the Sword of Totsuka, gg all except Minato. Or Itachi looks at them with Tsukuyomi, gg with Human Path.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue Ай бұрын
Their win comes are so insane
@celsiusnebula
@celsiusnebula Ай бұрын
I remembered that Tsukuyomi isn't an omnipotent genjutsu, and that targets can break out. Still, Minato has barely any wincons, just the Rasengan, which Nagato can easily absorb with Preta Path.
@Steckdose_
@Steckdose_ 2 ай бұрын
I always thought that Hiruzen not using the advantageous Element in the 5 Element Clash with Guru Guru was really stupid and just goes to show that sometimes Kishimoto isn't too consistent with the writing especially in the later stages of War Arc. Because "The Professor" not using the advantage when actively protecting the Alliance just makes it seem like Hiruzen would rather flex than actually get shit done lol
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Nah, wait till people start pointing out why tf the alliance listened to the Raikage when he told them to use earth style against his lightning😭
@stanis_gaming
@stanis_gaming 2 ай бұрын
You know it’s not a Swag video, because it’s not called ‘how many hokages need to team up to scratch Itachi one time’
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
What a beautiful title😭😭
@agahuseynov7608
@agahuseynov7608 2 ай бұрын
Hmm should I watch this right before my lin alg final??? ofc…
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Yessirrrrr
@lynnusuk2092
@lynnusuk2092 2 ай бұрын
I get what you were putting at the start, but Tobirama does know the hand seal and control talisman for edo tensei so he does have a way to “seal” them. Though it’s more like releasing their souls back to where it was summoned, he just need to beat them by altering the talisman mid fight. This should be feasible if he has an ftg seal on one of them.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
He doesn’t have the same seal as Kabuto that’s stated
@lynnusuk2092
@lynnusuk2092 2 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue wait really? Where? So I can check it.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
@@lynnusuk2092 seals are based on signs, Minato has two different seals, one for people and one for inanimate objects; each being flying raijin so therefore when it’s stated that Orochimaru honed the jutsu enough to call it unimpressive and Kabuto perfecting it to where they also act different, the seals have to be different
@lynnusuk2092
@lynnusuk2092 2 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue that’s interesting though didn’t Madara said if the revived soul know the edo seal they can break out of the summoner’s control? If the seal are different how could he know the way to easily break out (though this answer could just be Swag Kage’s “cause he’s Madara, he’s that crack sound clip” XD)
@lufa7886
@lufa7886 2 ай бұрын
if Sasuke and Orochimaru could beat the kage i don’t see why Itachi and Nagato would have any trouble
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Why could they beat the Kage???
@robertlee9602
@robertlee9602 2 ай бұрын
They could handle them except the 1st and Naruto of course.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Yeah
@midsectionmark8956
@midsectionmark8956 13 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Honesty each Hokage would have a problem with them 1 on 1. 2 on 1 is not fair. Naruto and Hashirama are the only forsure wins and those are fun fights to see.
@DhruChaney
@DhruChaney 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone brings up the fact that itachi vs nagato is actually close
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
There’s definitely can be nuance to that discussion
@diamantemrobinson
@diamantemrobinson 2 ай бұрын
Madara did say Tobimara was close to him and Hashirama in power and pretty much stated they were the 3 strongest people on the battlefield. He even said they could beat him if they were at full power without the edo nerf.
@willduncalfe1260
@willduncalfe1260 2 ай бұрын
never implied that at all it is not conisistent at all since Tobirama is consistnely portrayed to be below both hashirama and Madara why are u trying to wank him??
@willduncalfe1260
@willduncalfe1260 2 ай бұрын
him respecting Tobirama isnt saying he is even and Tobirama is on a base hashirama teir not sage mode who madara combats and stated that only hashirama can rival him while Tobirama was alive and him and Hashirama both conceed to this
@diamantemrobinson
@diamantemrobinson 2 ай бұрын
@@willduncalfe1260 bruh he basically put him near their level
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
When tf he state this shii
@willduncalfe1260
@willduncalfe1260 2 ай бұрын
@@diamantemrobinson i can't remember that at all but the only time Madara saw him was when he killed his brother Izuna who Madara surpasses, Tobirama is always implicative to be below his brother who Madara simply rivals...
@memmalatelmorganii7779
@memmalatelmorganii7779 2 ай бұрын
I’m assuming BSM is bijuu Sage mode and not bull-shit(plotarmor- how did you get the nine tails so conveniently ) mode
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Interesting💀
@caleblowe1924
@caleblowe1924 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think itachi could use koto, the crow is inside Naruto and the only reason it appeared was because it saw itachi’s MS and then used the “stronger, once every 10 years” koto.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Still is Itachi’s ms but he does have the crow summons
@jason15212
@jason15212 2 ай бұрын
Tobirama water style probably stops Itachi’s fire ball if he create a water wall and shock wave out of thin air surrounded by a dragon flame bomb from Hiruzen.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
I mean it could happen
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 2 ай бұрын
I respectively disagree with the Tobirama take. I say "respectively " because Im aware Tobirama is either criminally downplayed or overhyped; I do neither. With that said, I believe Tobirama puts up a decent fight against Nagato and moreso Itachi, but he would ultimately lose to both *individually* and my reasoning is his history with Kin and Gin as well as dying to the 20 unknown ninja. I understand the Kin and Gin arguments have been done to death, but theres a reason for that. Pain took on the entire leaf village and despite being fatiqued, took on Sage Naruto and his summonings and then 6 tails Kurama avatar and Sage mode Naruto again after that. Tobirama was also fatiqued against 20 ninja but if he were in the same teir as Pain, he wouldve walked outta the predicament alive imo.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
You said you disagree, and stated my exact stance?
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 2 ай бұрын
​@@Virhtue Did I hear it wrong? I'll listen to that part again but you said 6/10 Tobirama against Itachi and Nagato as a duo. I'm of the opinion he would fall to Nagato by himself or Itachi by himself.
@ross.b8699
@ross.b8699 2 ай бұрын
When it comes to ftg why does no one mentions that it was a Tobirama clone who teleported the TSO away before “daze Minato” … Tobirama proceeded to say a clones flying raijin is too slow and marked Minato with his seal and vice versa. Wouldn’t that scale up his ftg since a clone despite being slow has better activation of the technique than “daze Minato”?
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
His initial arrival was body flicker then he used FTG that’s why Minato lowered his guard and changed his mouth when Tobirama got there, he noticed him
@LuiopK
@LuiopK 2 ай бұрын
Itachi Uchiha Itachi, known for his exceptional intelligence, mastery of genjutsu, and formidable Sharingan abilities, would bring a strategic edge to the fight. His Susanoo, Amaterasu, and Tsukuyomi techniques could prove devastating in combat. Nagato (Pain) Nagato, with his Rinnegan eyes and mastery of the Six Paths of Pain, possesses immense power and versatility. His ability to control gravity, summon creatures, and absorb chakra would make him a formidable opponent. First Hokage - Hashirama Senju Hashirama's Wood Release techniques and immense chakra reserves would provide a strong defense against Itachi and Nagato's attacks. His Sage Mode abilities and experience in battle could turn the tide in his favor. Second Hokage - Tobirama Senju Tobirama's Water Release techniques and mastery of space-time ninjutsu would offer him the speed and versatility needed to counter the duo's attacks. His intelligence and tactical skills could make him a challenging adversary. Third Hokage - Hiruzen Sarutobi Hiruzen's mastery of all five basic nature transformations and his proficiency in various jutsu styles would make him a well-rounded opponent. His experience and knowledge of forbidden techniques could give him an edge in the battle. Fourth Hokage - Minato Namikaze Minato's Flying Thunder God Technique and incredible speed would make him a difficult target for Itachi and Nagato. His strategic mind and sealing jutsu could be crucial in countering their powerful abilities. Fifth Hokage - Tsunade Tsunade's immense strength, medical ninjutsu, and Creation Rebirth technique would make her a resilient opponent. Her ability to heal and withstand damage could prolong the battle and wear down the duo. Sixth Hokage - Kakashi Hatake Kakashi's Sharingan, Lightning Cutter, and Kamui would provide him with the means to counter Itachi and Nagato's genjutsu and long-range attacks. His intelligence and adaptability in combat could make him a formidable foe. Seventh Hokage - Naruto Uzumaki Naruto's Sage Mode, Rasengan variants, and Kurama's power would give him the strength and versatility to face Itachi and Nagato head-on. His determination and ability to inspire others could be a deciding factor in the battle.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
A lot of typing for bro to hype the characters up
@Spexz07
@Spexz07 Ай бұрын
As much of an tobirama fan I am tbh Nagato (not pain) alone can beat Tobirama, mid to high diff. Tobirama Supremacy tho.
@metal42
@metal42 2 ай бұрын
here's a showcase of the true might of the strongest Uchiha, ITACHI UCHIHA: Itachi Uchiha has: -Ultimate Mangekyo Sharingan: this is a version of Sharingan that he developed after everybody in his clan died, the ultimate trauma unlocked the ultimate power. However he isn't able to use it due to his illness. The ultimate mangekyo sharingan unlocks the full potential of Itachi, allowing him to fight at his absolute limit. If he were to create a Susanoo, it would be the tallest and most powerful susanoo the world has seen. Even more perfect than Madara's. -Rinnegan: Since Itachi holds back alot, he's never used it. -Uchiha Power: after decimating his entire clan, Itachi was amped by all the spirits of the dead Uchihas, he's able to use these combined spirits as a cloak, coating his arms, legs and entire body with it, this increases his attack by 70%. -The Sword of Totsuka: This is the most powerful version of the sword, being able to slice through continents with ease. He once showed this against Orochimaru, causing Orochimaru to be afraid, the sole reason why he left the Akatsuki. -The Yata Mirror: This is the most powerful version of the shield, being able to block and reflect a 1000 jutsus, it's said if Madara and Hashirama combined the susanoo with the nine tails and used the bijuu bomb along with Hashirama's giant statues, Itachi's yata mirror will only suffer a small crack. -Taijutsu: it's stated Itachi's taijutsu was almost as great as might guy's, if Itachi bothered to, he could easily invent the 9th and 10th inner gate. -Truth seeker swords: Itachi can also unlock the truth seeker swords with his Ultimate mangekyo sharingan, he discovered this when one of Hagoromo's descendants interacted him after the events of Naruto part 1. -Truth Seeker Shield: also attained by his ultimate mangekyo sharingan, this shield could easily block 1 thousand bijuu bombs. Now do you see the true power of Itachi, the most powerful character of Naruto. Even more powerful than Kaguya, and all the otsutkies?
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Buddy, these do not grant power
@vaughnjackson6297
@vaughnjackson6297 2 ай бұрын
​@@Virhtue😂😂😂😂
@55ibman
@55ibman Ай бұрын
Dude please drink som goddamn water. You swallowed more than a pelican this video
@Virhtue
@Virhtue Ай бұрын
Ain’t got time for allat, some that video was off the dome
@yeahyousowhat7841
@yeahyousowhat7841 2 ай бұрын
*We can't say that Itachi has the means to takeout Chibaku Tensei when it needed an S-Rank KCM Rasenshuriken, A Biju Dama from the 3rd most powerful beast, and another asspull Itachi jutsu, to stop it*
@AidenB1010
@AidenB1010 2 ай бұрын
itachi has access to shadow clones, if the situation was THAT dire and he didnt have help he would just pull out 2 or even 3+ shadow clones to use the same jutsu he did. it would tire him out alot but alive nagato had to lower his lifespan to use chibaku tensei, so theyre even
@Farenhyte-
@Farenhyte- 2 ай бұрын
​@@AidenB1010Alive nagato had exhausted a gigantic portion of his chakra between 6 deparate bodues in an extended battoe against the single most powerful village in the world and then fought ANOTHER lengthy and costly battle against naruto and then fought 6 tails before using CT. An edo nagatos CT would be vastly stronger and less taxing. Also, itachi would by no means have the chakra pool required to activate 3 susanoo attacks
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
And I demonstrably proved why he either could drop it on its own as presuming he destroyed only 33% which is impossible due to it vaporing and being many many many joules greater in that realm of force, but if we just say it’s 33% then it still crumbles as Nagato can’t hold it up. Then I proved Amaterasu would mess it up more than either the RasenShuriken or the biju bomb
@Farenhyte-
@Farenhyte- 2 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue I have to disagree here. If i heard correctly, you said PAINS chibaku tensei crumbled after being damaged because he was HEAVILY fatigued. Also, the amaterasu is NOT his most powerful jutsu, that would be the yasaka magatama, which Itachi states is his "most powerful long distance ninjutsu", so, amaterasu would not be more effective or else he would have used it. In addition, itachi directly specifies in the same page that ALL 3 of them need to attack it simultaneously. Again, he would not have naruto and bee attack with him when they could be targeting nagato himself if he didnt need their assistance. Also, they did not vaporize the CT, as we clearly see debris and rubble in the aftermath, it would be pulverisation at best (not sure how thay affects the math though tbh) That said, in the entirety of the video, this is the only real point i would have to disagree with, so great work. I genuinely do enjoy your content. As an edit, i misread your take on amaterasu bing more effective than the rasenshuriken or biju bomb, i thkught you were comparing it to ITACHIS other jutsu. My b.
@vaughnjackson6297
@vaughnjackson6297 2 ай бұрын
​@@Virhtueigniting that small black ball makes sense.Good reasoning there BigV
@Robbieuchiha
@Robbieuchiha 2 ай бұрын
I think hokage minato vs itachi and nagato would be closer which i think they would win more times than not I think kcm minato is too much for them and I’m not the biggest minato fan
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
I could agree for dazed Minato and what not
@allmight3221
@allmight3221 2 ай бұрын
Like comment and now i watch
@agahuseynov7608
@agahuseynov7608 2 ай бұрын
oh look at that guys I found the yapper prime again yay!
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Love to hear it
@allmight3221
@allmight3221 2 ай бұрын
@@agahuseynov7608 Oh look at that, my side kick and number one cheerleader MegaPron is here, yay!
@incogni.bro3957
@incogni.bro3957 2 ай бұрын
Minato vs Bardock the konah 12 vs akatsuki dou (ie team guy vs kakuzu and hidan) part 1 Sarada vs part 1 Naruto(replace sasuke with sarada in fights like sarada vs haku, lee,orochimaru, garaa ect.)
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
These could be could but none of them are close
@incogni.bro3957
@incogni.bro3957 2 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue yea minato slams lmao
@razenhell9721
@razenhell9721 2 ай бұрын
You know everyone always talks about Madara, harshimara, tobimara but you know people don’t talk about Madaras other 3 brothers or the senju brothers other two brothers kawarama Senju and Itama Senju.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Yeah they don’t really have anything other than Izuna
@razenhell9721
@razenhell9721 2 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue you got the naming convention Madara and izuna are named after a group of five mountains named Mount lizuna, Mount Madarao, Mount Kurohima, Mount Togashuki, Mount Myoko and I’m 99% sure had the author properly introduced them the other brothers would be based on this.
@razenhell9721
@razenhell9721 2 ай бұрын
Also the other senjus brothers would’ve cool to see as adults and could’ve been potentially hokages as they mentioned as being extremely talented even as small children but the warring states was just kinda brutal and not a lot great training opportunities.
@LuiopK
@LuiopK 2 ай бұрын
I feel like Edo itachi and Edo Nagato can solo They donut Nagato ever since they seen him cripple after pain vs Naruto fight but now in his Edo he is indeed on itachi's level if compared though the only that they cant defeat is naruto. When Edo they have same abilities but there way broken abilities then before I believe they can go against madara in a fair fight Edo tensi vs The Ghost of the Uchiha.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
I mean… I could see this pov
@akasakasad6271
@akasakasad6271 2 ай бұрын
justice for hiruzen 😓
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
I’m sorry!!! I try 😭😭
@thmistrapillay1811
@thmistrapillay1811 2 ай бұрын
Prime Hiruzen the GOAT fr🔥
@Lorenzoh_Victor
@Lorenzoh_Victor 2 ай бұрын
you reactors talk like kids sometimes..nagato never even considered itachi as anything,he was being controlled and his main focus was on capturing naruto and bee..so anything itachi did to nagato doesnt even count..if itachi was nagatos focus,one on one,itachi woudnt have been able to do nothing...even the totsuka blade that caught him was off guard
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Never considered him as anything when Itachi blitzed him and sealed him after evaporating Chibaku Tensei, another opinion
@Lorenzoh_Victor
@Lorenzoh_Victor 2 ай бұрын
@@Virhtuekabuto was focusing on bee and naruto. Itachi was not a priority.......itachi didnt evaporate chibaku tensei..it was a team effort ..it was itachi,naruto and bee vs a controlled nagato who was after naruto and bee
@Lukeiano
@Lukeiano 2 ай бұрын
Bro talked about tobirama for half the vid when we all know he ain’t beating nagato or itachi even 1 on 1😂
@ross.b8699
@ross.b8699 2 ай бұрын
Nahh he mid diffs the 1v1
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
1on1 is tough
@Jusaguywithbrain
@Jusaguywithbrain 2 ай бұрын
He is low diffing Naruto and negging Itachi in a 1v1
@Ntimidation
@Ntimidation Ай бұрын
@@Jusaguywithbrainfacts spoken
@janpaulgarde8639
@janpaulgarde8639 2 ай бұрын
How would an edo nagato vs war arc ems sasuke end up?
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
EMS Sasuke should just have a general advantage, I think the abilities Nagato has help but ultimately Sasuke should just stand among a higher tier
@yeahyousowhat7841
@yeahyousowhat7841 2 ай бұрын
Lmao. Edo Nagato stomps
@thmistrapillay1811
@thmistrapillay1811 2 ай бұрын
Peak EMS Sasuke is more powerful but the real problem is Edo Nagato constantly absorbing Amaterasu 50/50
@vaughnjackson6297
@vaughnjackson6297 2 ай бұрын
No​@@Virhtue
@vaughnjackson6297
@vaughnjackson6297 2 ай бұрын
80/20 to nagato​@@thmistrapillay1811
@joshuacanny4858
@joshuacanny4858 2 ай бұрын
Bro Said itachis susano scales higher than full power nagato. I can't believe people really think itachi stands a chance against nagato or pain. Full power pain beats edo itachi. Pain/nagatos power is on a whole other lvl than itachi people . Or any akatsuki members. It's not even close .
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Agreed man, why do people think Itachi could ever graze Nagato with an attack, he only blitzed him three times
@joshuacanny4858
@joshuacanny4858 2 ай бұрын
@Virhtue The only reason itachi was faster than nagato was bc hanzo damaged his feet long ago. Thats why itachi got him with the totsuka blade. Otherwise, why would kabuto say nagato wasn't mobile enough. Implying nagato could have dodged it. But ya itachi blitzed him bc his feet wasn't damaged. You need to re-watch the show bub 😅
@wurqhx
@wurqhx 2 ай бұрын
i think tobirama wins can’t lie
@Virhtue
@Virhtue Ай бұрын
Interesting I could see it
@Arcadia_warlic
@Arcadia_warlic 2 ай бұрын
Nagato's name is not Uzumaki Nagato. It is just Nagato, like Tsunade (not Senju) or Karin (also not Uzumaki). If Kabuto was not controlling Nagato, Nagato likely would have just absorbed the Amaterasu. Rin no Sho suggests Hiruzen can legitimately handle all jutsu: プロフェッサー ●三代目火影の 異名。里にある全ての術を知り 尽くし、かつそれらを自在に使 いこなすことに由来。三代目は 歴代火影の中でも最強と言われ、 「忍の神」と謳われたことも。 Professor - Alias of the Third Hokage. It is derived from the fact that he knows all the techniques in the village and uses them at will/freely. The Third Hokageis said to be the strongest of all the previous Hokage, and was even called the "God of Shinobi". Tobirama might have actually made the Academy before the First Shinobi World War, with the institution instead being made during a time of minor conflicts called "war". Rin no Sho also suggets Hiruzen is stronger than the Sannin: 伝説の三忍●かつて木ノ葉隠れ の里で、火影に迫る強さを誇っ た三人の忍者を指す。自来也と 大蛇丸はその内の一人である。 Legendary Three Shinobi (Sannin): Three ninja who once boasted a strength approaching that of the Hokage in the village of Konohagakure. Jiraiya and Orochimaru were one of them. With Hiruzen's greater stamina as an Edo Tensei he could use more Shadow Clones which would help guard against the numbers disadvantage (alongside Enma doing the same with his Vajra Prison). Naruto does not have that Kurama at the end of the series. The one he is using against Kaguya and Sasuke is actually Minato's Kurama, so it does not seem like it would be referring to that specifically.
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
They are stated to be Uzumaki, saying the red hair holds proof of their Uzumaki lineage when Kabuto states it
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
I’ve also had this natively translated the the first part is just wrong
@Arcadia_warlic
@Arcadia_warlic 2 ай бұрын
That they are Uzumaki does not mean that is their names.
@jasonk6336
@jasonk6336 Ай бұрын
? Easy clear for Itachi and Nagato
@Virhtue
@Virhtue Ай бұрын
I guess for some
@Lorenzoh_Victor
@Lorenzoh_Victor 2 ай бұрын
how the fuck does itachi has a solo means of taking down chibaku tensei..this is b.s..good thing i never subscribed..amaterasu was effective against the chameleon not because it has more destrictive power than rasenshuriken ,but because IT DOESNT STOP TILL ITS TARGET DIES
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
You never substantiated anything you said how, I answered don’t play this dishonest rat game of “I don’t subscribe” when you can’t disprove a point that was made in relation to that; rather you just state your opinion? An opinion that’s entirely arbitrary💀
@Whis__
@Whis__ 2 ай бұрын
Hashirama stomps. Haha
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
I mean, true
@jason15212
@jason15212 2 ай бұрын
Obito>> Itachi and Nagato
@Virhtue
@Virhtue 2 ай бұрын
Could be, depends on the Obito
@irvinmorales5641
@irvinmorales5641 Ай бұрын
Itachi was never on pair with kcm, he was going all out while naruto was trying to talk.
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