IWI Ace Gen 2 13" Galil SAR Pistol Review (My Honest Opinion & Why?)

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[@surfingtothestars]

I must be the only one thinking that the gen 2 is the better option. Especially with it being the same price as the gen 1. The factory MLOK handguard is a great upgrade considering a lot of gen 1 owners replaced their handguards for either a RS Regulate or Midwest Industries handguard (which saves you $200+). And the AR buffer tube is a big upgrade over the gen 1 stock which didn't have the option for you to change stocks due to its proprietary design. Sure the gen 1 sights were nice, but the standard today is adding an optic to a rifle.

[@echodelta2172]

the issue is we are now full circle back to "KISS" philosophies on guns. You put just enough on it to make it work well with nothing else.

[@Dukenukem777]

Agree w you

[@jasonkidd1689]

I'm definitely getting a gen2. I have a gen 1 ace pistol 5.56 and I love it. I seen the gen2 just like the one in the video for under 1600 that's way less than what I paid for my gen1.

[@bert3837]

The gen 2 is a lot better than the gen one. I had the gen 1 for about 2 years then bought this one and sold that one because I realized how lacking the gen one was for me at least.

[@wcsdiaries]

can you add gen 1 sights to the gen 2?

[@Dukenukem777]

I guess it depends on what you want it for. If it’s to collect militaria, Gen 1. If it’s a tool, Gen 2. I think IWI actually just listened to their customer base. Everyone was swapping out the handguards anyway, installing the ALG trigger, and the front sight post on the Gen 1 was imprecise due to width. Frankly, I’ve shot both, and liked both. The Gen 2 is definitely an improved version. My only gripe is that Micha’s right in that the bolt is not as “ornately” milled. I prefer the original bolt. Everything else, I’m good w the improvements. She’s a tank.

[@wcsdiaries]

Is there any difference in accuracy between thetwo? I love the look of the gen 1 so I'm reluctant to go with gen 2.

[@danielsmith5041]

I watched Garand Thumbs video and they literally just switched out everything he complained about. I’m not saying it was because of him it was just interesting to note. It seems most of the user base prefers Gen 1

[@teilani_ayures]

I picked one up a couple weeks back and have been digging it. I've been wanting an "AK but modernized and in 5.56" setup for a while and the 13in gen2 is the best execution of that I've seen.

[@shootandcruise]

Do you prefer the AR style mags for the 5.56? I understand about 500 Gen 1 rock and lock 5.56 galils are about to drop and am trying to decide which I prefer. I used standard AR mags for 8 years in the army, but have spent the past few years training with AKs.

[@richieoliver9671]

I think IWI was just listening to their consumers. They wanted modularity. They wanted to make it their own, if it it wasn’t “uniquely Galil”, it can be uniquely their own rifles. With still being a cool ass Galil 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@sadaway4301]

Excellent. Really needed some insight on this particular model

[@nukeblue]

I called IWI US & asked about the "defective" brace adjustment. They confirmed it was by design & needed to import ‐ referencing approval for overall length.

[@zeme0556]

Always wanted a Micro so when Gen first came out, I attempted to make a quasi one. I added a micro handguard,CNC tubular brace and trimmed the trigger guard and mag well.

[@chadjones2168]

I just put on a bone steel/cnc warrior brace on mine. It is awesome makes it look like a micro Galil since mine is the gen 2 8.3” barrel. I have a can on mine and it Just looks badass. I had to change out the back plate and replace with a kns pica tinny plate. The cnc brace attaches perfect and looks clean. I really like my gen 2.

[@Justin31789]

I’ve been wanting to do the same setup either the cnc warrior brace or a jmac tail hook brace. I haven’t seen one with the cnc brace yet I bet it does look good

[@teilani_ayures]

I haven't finished the video yet as I'm typing this, but the new gen2 pistol brace tubes are only drilled with 1 hole for the adjustable stock. It only locks fully collapsed. [edit] Yep you found it.

[@TheREALLibertyOrDeath]

Damn you just confirmed I need a longer gas tube and piston for my 18” galil build , just getting all my parts together

[@jahman8005]

Got my 16” Gen 1 556 a few months back. Absolutely love it. I HATED the trigger tho. Luckily Dissident Arms and a few other companies shape out ALG triggers to fit the 556 variant allowing you to keep your bolt hold open. Just make sure you use your original trigger spring and hammer spring. Oh and don’t forget to remove that little block that’s at the front base of the hammer so your hammer actually makes contact with the bolt. Just remove the polymer lower and you’ll see a little screw you remove with an Allen key. Boda bing boda boom reassemble and you’re good to go!

[@misha5670]

Funny, i don't much like ALG triggers *shrug*

[@brighthought11]

@@misha5670 its basically a Geissele lightning bow, great trigger, to each his own! good videos! whats the best between : CZ Bren 2 ms, CMMG MK47, IWI Galil Ace, Robison Arms XCR and SIG Spear? those are the 5 big non ak I am interested in what is the best. I have owned an AK, CZ Bren 2 and a CMMG Mk47 and I liked them in that order. I'd prefer to stay Piston which knocks the CMMG out of the conversation though.

[@dizzydan6268]

Nice set-up! Question for you, do you know what the barrel thread pitch is ? I'm looking online and can't seem to find out. I have the rifle but I'll assume it'd be the same. Thank you!

[@PrescottCaliberClub]

I just started running my Ace 5.45. I did a bunch of upgrades. So far I'm liking it a lot but I'm not much of a fan of the stock Ace, It just does not feel right in my hands. New setup makes me really start to like it.

[@sethperry1323]

Has the gen2 ace 5.45x39 13" arrived yet? I see the short one is in stock...

[@royshobe6642]

Thanks for making this video

[@The13Boogyman]

I saw in another video that the SBA3 doesn't have all the holes for some import legal reason. You can drill more holes in it.

[@justanothergunnerd8128]

Thanks Mr. Misha - good video

[@leadhead7338]

Hey Mish, i hope all is well with you fellas, have a great holiday season sir AMERICA STRONG STAY FREE LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC

[@Flatline74]

The Gen 2 is sweet!! Those complaining about the lack of sights, they are not making sense with this complaint. Now on the Gen 2 you can choose any type of BUIS out there or none at all. My Gen 2 Ace hands down one my my favorites in my bunch.

[@ceejay8775]

They cried about the lack of a decent hand guard on the gen 1 prior , can’t please everyone.

[@rhoover5o]

i've really been enjoying my gen 2 in 7.62x39. my interest is mostly from a functional standpoint. aside from being a heavy pig it performs very well.

[@JaredWalsh]

I picked up a gen 2 with a le discount. I planned on doing rnl conversion but might be a little shy after pulling the plastic lower off. I’ve build a sar and an arm. Might just reweld another sar kit instead of cutting up an expensive gun 😂. Arm is definitely my favorite. Thanks Misha!

[@misha5670]

For what its worth? I agree with your 2nd/updated plan. An Ace willl never truely be a classic Galil, really not even 100% as a Micro. So what people are doing is cutting up an Ace to make a hybrid or mutt gun. Sometimes we just need to realise the good in what we do have vs worrying over what we don't have.

[@phitaujwalk]

I would’ve liked if this came with the x95 backup iron sights that flip up and are concealed within the picatinny rail.

[@misha5670]

Good idea.

[@aleksy5686]

Thank you 👍

[@Matt_Moore]

Great video Misha! Have you been able to put your hands on the new WBP MILLED version Mini Jack pistols I’m seeing Arms of America now offer? Hope to get your take on those.

[@undeadwarrior88]

He made a video about them about a week ago

[@Matt_Moore]

@@undeadwarrior88 whoops. On it.

[@petepedro5422]

Both are so nice! The gen 1’s are definitely sexier

[@cajuncatfish5417]

I share your personal taste for the Gen 1 guns that are basically just semi auto versions of their military ACEs. The Gen 2s just seem too commercialized for the civilian market. And, call me old fashioned, but I'm not really a fan of mlok and prefer good ol' 1913 rails on both my AR15s and my AKs (if I have rails at all on my AK). Those paper-thin MLOK handguards get really hot really fast and just won't be as durable.

[@ashvasquez3416]

Nice work keep it up

[@Carrots105]

They should bring back the classic galil SAR with wood handguards for the civilian market so we can have both the classic and the modernized gun:)

[@Taprack13]

It very well may get discontinued due to poor sales. Could be a great collector investment. Especially the gen 1 because of the lightening cuts and tritium fixed sights. Great video showing the difference/cost saving cuts.

[@DeltaCharlie27]

Are the sales slow both in the civ and mil markets? Just curious because i picked up one up last week locally and there dont seem to be a lot of the 7.62s around

[@brandondane4777]

I can’t find one in stock and when I do. It sold out in 10 mins

[@aramb5482]

Poor sales ?? Can’t find these things anywhere and if you do they’re marked up enough to make grown men cry

[@Jojo69869]

So the original isn't sold anymore?

[@timothycain4512]

I really like the 545x39 rock and lock gen 2

[@HonchoHustle901]

Can someone tell me why the Gen1 is so desirable? I never heard about the Galil Ace until the Gen 2 and I love it the Gen 1 looks like a hodgepodge of various pieces. But everyone in the comment sections prefers or wants the Gen 1. What am I missing?

[@SOBIsHobbies]

To answer your question I believe there are couple of reasons. And the very first one being that Gen 1 is now discontinued. Since there’s no longer production of gen 1 Galils it’s more of a rarity to find one than the current 2nd gen. Second point, gen 1 Galil was a copy of actual military version of Galil. Consequently it’s more desired by collectors and military firearm enthusiasts. Thirdly, gen 1 Galil was more refined and had more unique IWI touches where you could tell right away that it was Galil ACE by looking at it as opposed to gen 2. And Misha mentions those unique things in his video. Second generation Galil looks more like mixture of couple of firearms (AR, CZ Bren and etc) but certainly doesn’t look like a Galil that everyone was used to seeing. Granted it does have some added modularity features but that’s the only advantage that goes towards gen 2 Galil’s way. Otherwise, gen 1 Galil ACE has lot more personality than gen 2. I was on the verge of “upgrading” my gen 1 Galil ACEs when IWI introduced gen 2. However, after seeing how gen 2 looks and what kind of reception it received by enthusiasts I quickly realized that I should keep my originals. Demand for gen 1s is keep on rising and I think in few years time their values will only get higher.

[@mikewatson1517]

Hey Misha, do you think there are any other steps IWI took to cheapen the gen 2s that are a bit worse than mere cosmetics? Ignoring the removal of the irons of course. For instance, Inferior materials? My concern is one that you voiced with where this road typically leads manufacturers. I'm willing to ignore the removal of the lightning cuts, in particular if they've already hit their weight requirement(s) through the new handguard and what not. Lack of irons isn't great, but fine. Losing the texture on the charging handle also sucks. But are all of the same parts still forged? Is this Americanized crap or is it a real workhorse identical to the original? Sidenote: My guess as to why the pistol version of the Gen 2 has a one slot buffer tube for its stock is purely a risk mitigation measure with respect to the BATFE. Perhaps it's easier to sell it as a 'brace' vs a stock if its not adjustable.

[@misha5670]

I have no evidence or reason to suspect that IWI is making the barrel or receiver out of inferior material. Saving a few lightning cuts is one thing, but setting up a whole different productionline to make US guns would seem to cost more money, not less.

[@dylana.601]

I can’t stress enough how much not having iron sights is a deal breaker. Just sucks gen 1 prices will go through the roof and will be harder to get.

[@poolee77]

With as cheap as BUIS are these days how is that a problem?

[@dylana.601]

@@poolee77 BUIS’s are cool but for a decent pair you are paying more than 100$ and they will never compare to having a fixed front post. Maybe if the gun was cheaper like misha said but it’s the same price for a lesser upgrades. I’m just a iron sight whore

[@surfingtothestars]

it's heavily favored toward the US market. Having some sort of an optic is basically the standard now days. Just like how with the AR15, its marketed as "optic ready"

[@misha5670]

@@surfingtothestars And IWI offers a nice AR15 as the Z15. Its about 1/2 the cost of the Ace Gen 2. We reviewed it a year or so back. Really was a nice shooting little midlength carbine.

[@blue_ridge_shooting7668]

@@poolee77 my gen 1 has factory night sights, there are no back night sights with built in tritium available at all as far as I know.

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

I like vintage galil looks but wanna play with one someday

[@ErickGarcia-fw6jl]

I have the original unfired in .308 as well as the Ace in .308, was considering getting the third rendition....still might but want a high end AR......???

[@aramb5482]

Since when does milling a block of metal cost less than injection molding plastic?

[@pr5721]

Honestly i feel like the one to get is the 8in 7.62x39 as a modernized ak it comes with allot of features you end up paying extra to get on a traditional ak, i agree the buffer tube was playing to the ar crowd but in 5.56 iwi's own 13in ar for half the price and lighter weight makes a whole lot of sence. For the record i still prefer my sam7 sf for enjoyable extended range time over everything! Its just that after accessories for optics, flashlight etc its a bit more expensive than the galil ace.

[@blue_ridge_shooting7668]

I managed to find a Gen 1, 5.56 rifle with a Gen2 trigger in it. I love it! It's an amazing rifle and in a few years it will be an extremely desirable rifle. The Gen2 was a cost cutting measure, simple as.

[@devonkieft1534]

I prefer the Gen 1. Put an RS Regulate 10" rail on mine and have a CNC tubular stock on the way. Preserving the iconic looks while making it an overall better handling rifle. The AK operating system with NATO caliber and mags were the big draws for me.

[@jimmyvalhalla1939]

I want to know how you got an LM5 In the states…

[@JohnZ556]

13 inch 7.62x39 is the best choice between size/weight and performance. You almost don't lose any velocity from 16 inch, but you do lose quite some weight and length. It will have better ballistic and accuracy; way less muzzle blast/fireball and a bit less recoil than the 8.3 inch version. Not sure about 5.56 versions, but to each of their own.😁

[@GraveZero]

100% need that gun

[@mengx94]

Do you have both 16 and 13 inch versions? I ordered a 13 cause I can't stabilize the 16 when shooting.. way too front heavy. I'm worried the 13 wouldn't make much of a difference with my setup

[@JohnZ556]

@@mengx94 8.3 and 13, the full size ACE is just way too heavy for the caliber.(more like a battle rifle) Usually front heavy helps to stabilize when shooting, so are you saying you can't handle the weight? Well... this platform is essentially an enhanced milled receiver AK, so lightweight isn't really a consideration of the design.

[@JohnZ556]

@@mengx94 16'' version is about a # heavier and that's mostly 3.5'' of bbl and stock differences. Other AK platforms won't be much lighter either if you install full rails and adjustable cheek-riser stock. FYI, ACE gen 2 16''(lack of iron sights) is much heavier than a SCAR17s. My 8.3'' is about 11lbs when suppressed and ready. So yeah, better watch that weight.

[@JohnZ556]

@@mengx94 So, what you think of the 13" version? I think it's an excellent x39 platform with good aesthetic. Setup recommendation: OSS 762Ti(best reliability suppressed and unsuppressed, skip KNS, skip disassembling the gun to make over 20 clicks and human error, manual also says you shouldn't take it apart very often b/c of the dust cover mount), Tailhook Mod2(no qd sling point but ok, since it folds anyways, get a HK hook for the back), Magpul AFG(well...pistol), and PA GLx 2X 7.62*39 version(best overall choice, purpose-built for the caliber and no iron needed). Plus a QD light like inforce or other pistol light to keep the weight down.

[@backyardFoods]

I really wanna like the gen2 but no backup sights. 😕

[@danh5397]

I honestly like the look of the Gen 1 with iron sights better I think iwi kind of shot themselves in the foot on this one

[@misha5670]

I don't like the flat top look much and miss the sights myself...and i can't even use the damn things lol.

[@bryy2053]

I prefer the gen 1 better. They "AR'd" the ACE, and im usually not a fan when manufacturers make their guns more AR like, especially AKs. I learned this personally by putting the midwest industries handguard on my ACE .308. I thought it would be a good idea for attaching light/accessories, and it was fine, but then it kind of gets lost in my safe if you know what I mean. I kind of wish I went with RS regulate at least, but ideally I should have just left it be.

[@misha5670]

Yep, i know exactly what you mean. In fact, that's part of my conclusion at the end of this video.

[@bryy2053]

@@misha5670 yes I'm in total agreement with you. Great video as always. Thanks again

[@RickDeckard2049]

its called modernizing the ACE, literally every new rifle has these features.

[@bryy2053]

@@RickDeckard2049profound. "Its called....?" The ACE is already considered a modern gun, and rails/handguards like this were around long before the ACE. IWI could have went that route from its inception, and they chose not to. Militaries that adopted the ACE were totally fine with the original handguard setup and didn't demand a change before buying it. It was the American commercial market that IWI seems to have accommodated, so "its called" commercialized, not modernized.

[@josephrobison8886]

The plastic handguard is flimsy though. my scout light will flex about 1/4 " when pressed with one finger.

[@taylornutt]

I bet the one position buffer tube is a lawyer thing. It probably is done so the ATF can't claim the brace is an adjustable stock. As far as I know, you can just replace the buffer tube with a Mil Spec one and it's still legal. I would be interested in these with Rock and Lock mags or in 5.45x39mm.

[@misha5670]

Funny thing is i just had one of the newest M85s come in from Zastava this week. It shipped with the SBA-3, and its on a standard 6 pos. tube.

[@In-Midnight-Clad]

@@misha5670 Maybe due to the length of pull requirements for pistols? That would vary from gun to gun and I bet with the extra length added by the ACE hinge, they would have been over 13" at any position other than the first.

[@queefersutherland8495]

You got one of those fancy rip braces

[@Rocksteady713]

Thank you for this I know it’s an awesome rifle but I think I’ll go with the JAKL since PSA is more hands on and I don’t like what the changes they made between gens, I don’t even have to mention the price.

[@magich3133]

🤣🤡

[@1997LT1Camaro]

Seems like these are hard to find in short barrel 7.62x39 today. I think people are purchasing imports up quick

[@jayw947]

I love it

[@happyhaunter_5546]

why...why would they have one stock position in the buffer tube...

[@surfingtothestars]

IWI says its for legal reasons

[@misha5670]

@@surfingtothestars Its a CYA thing for IWI. Other mfgrs like Zastava & CZ are still shipping SBA3s on 4-6 pos. tubes.

[@tomelroy]

999.00 would be a steal for an IWI barreled receiver...

[@leadcounsel4869]

See, I think the changes were smart - fixed sights get in the way and most people will put a optic on it, anyway. Backup sights are not expensive. The front handguard is far more useful, modular, and probably lighter. The AR style stocks are far more utilitarian. If you want a more classic look, get the paddle mag release calibers, and you can probably get some wood dressing on the forward grip. And a traditional Galil stock.

[@sethperry1323]

I wish they would left the front site on it!

[@turbografx16]

The old Galil is so much more svelte.

[@Vonsairsoft]

My Galil Ace Gen 2 SBA3 brace does not lock in fully extended either.

[@stephenwinchester6668]

Mine doesn’t either, looking at the buffer tube, it doesn’t have different locking positions 💁🏻‍♂️

[@teilani_ayures]

You could replace the buffer tube or just drill a hole in it.

[@bobgrover8691]

If it locked it would then fall under the SBR guidelines

[@lungcanc3r666]

Probably because LOP for pistols...

[@misha5670]

preposed guidelines....

[@ai5dd]

Seems to me, IWI dropped a lot of milling and small details from the original gen 1. I'm good with my IWI original Galil Ace carbine in 7.62x39

[@FunkyPertwee]

Wow that brace situation is a huge disappointment. Unfortunately they were probably trying to comply with length-of-pull guidelines for braces. Too bad they didn't stick with the original.

[@misha5670]

preposed guidelines; they haven't been codified yet. This is why other mfgrs are shipping their pistols w/ SBA3s on standard 4/6 pos. tubes. I just had a Zastava M85TAC come in like this a couple days ago.

[@FunkyPertwee]

@@misha5670 Wow that makes IWI look even worse.

[@josephrobison8886]

"lost my grabby thing" --Misha 2021

[@kevspss]

Arsenal always arrives with barrel sticking out of the end of the box.

[@wilso2jasonp]

This. And their budget finish. And the price for what you are getting. Any Galil any day for me. Sorry Misha

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

Valid points. Gen 2 will be difficult for it to compete against the AR15 for the price and weight. I am wondering how much more muzzle heavy Gen 2 is with that chunky rail.

[@misha5670]

Actually, i think the railed HG is slightly lighter than the orig Gen 1's.

[@teilani_ayures]

I want to say when they first came out, MAC weighed a Gen1 and a Gen2 and they actually weighed the same even without all those lightening cuts. Don't quote me on that though. [edit] Looking elsewhere on the internet, people are saying they weighed theirs and the Gen2 actually turned out to be lighter than the Gen1.

[@misha5670]

@@teilani_ayures Yup, what i said ;p Also weighed both my Gen 1STANAG w/ cuts and Gen 1 RNL w/o cuts back in last week's video, and the RNL was 'slightly' lighter...like 2-3 oz is all though.

[@tomelroy]

buy a micro or SAR kit on GB, buy a Gen 2 ace...and make the gun of your dreams...Nothing beats an IMI or IWI barrel and receiver if you have the Galil BUG.

[@misha5670]

That sounds quite spendy unfortunately.

[@tomelroy]

@@misha5670 It may sting a little at first, but in the long run its a bargin if you think about it...for a headspaced IWI barrel and receiver with bolt!. I wish IWI would offer a retro series, but until then...I am think an old School SAR but in 5.45x39...hopefully they come out with the G2 13" soon (hopefully for 1500.00 ish). But a g2 5.56 rock and lock with the bolt hold open and old school SAR gas block, trigger guard, pistol grip, and top cover....keep with a brace or better yet SBR with the original stock.. IWI is really spoiling Galil nuts with what they are offering. And there has never been a better time to pick up galil kits.

[@bobgrover8691]

I was told at the gun shop that if the brace locked fully extended that it would then be considered a SBR requiring a stamp

[@lungcanc3r666]

It's the issue of LOP on braces. It's not so simple but technically right.

[@misha5670]

@@lungcanc3r666 And yet other mfgrs like CZ and Zastava continue to ship pistols, with SBA3s on standard 4-6 pos. tubes. IWI is simply playing things very safe here.

[@lungcanc3r666]

@@misha5670 can't blame them tbh. ATF will flip flop on it. Simple the end user to swap the tube or just drill the holes if that's a huge deal.

[@justanothergunnerd8128]

The gen 1 is in the desirable original military configuration - adopted by quite a few countries (Chile, Vietnam, etc.) and now that its gone forever, highly collectable. Killing everything that makes it a Galil is dumb (iron sights, weird handguards, proprietary buttstock, etc.) and makes it not as collectable, unique or fun. The gen 2 is just a boring "AR-ified" Galil Ace that might appeal to a few AR guys. Not everything in the world needs a buffer tube stock and ugly metal handguards for mounting every accessory under the sun. I think IWI should still offer some gen 1s along with this - why force the consumer into a corner and not give us options? But this is a clear case of tyranny of the majority, manufacturer practicality and profits of course.

[@misha5670]

Hey, not honest to sum up in 2 well done lines what it took me 30 minutes to ramble out lol j/k.

[@MrManson1337]

7.62x39 pistol. Idk why some1 would want this in 556 over some Ars

[@misha5670]

Of course someone coud say why would someone want it in 7.62x39 over all the various AK options on the market? In the end, options and choices are always good things.

[@yeedbottomtext7563]

Why on earth would they replace the gen 1 with this horrifying thing

[@robmeglaughlin325]

ARM is still#1

[@misha5670]

I really like the ARM, its a classic for sure. But for me, the SAR is my personal favorite.

[@TheREALLibertyOrDeath]

The old galil ar just looks better to me

[@danielsmith5041]

Why do you always rub stuff like that? This is the second video of yours I’ve watched sir. The rubbing is weird. It’s got a weird sensual feel to it. Super disconcerting

[@paperclip6993]

Galil ace gen 2 *5.45x39 king of the market. No competition. *7.62x39 best modern AK available Period.. *5.56x45..... sam5, polish beyrl, zastava probably better option, AR15 mag well kills it for me personally.

[@kabanchan5768]

love your vids Mishaco i can ley down and sick in bed and learn about guns the psl still my fav rifle

[@misha5670]

So....my videos end up making you sick in bed? Damn, i knew i wasn't the best camera operator but shit! sorry! lol j/k

[@nedanschutz]

It's not a galil but I am attracted to the zavasta krinkish pistol. It has sights and is much less expensive. If I were to hunt down a galil I find the original gen 1 to be much more desirable to my aesthetic. Very interesting video. By being able to view the differences, as you show them I wouldn't be going down the gen. 2 road.

[@misha5670]

We're in the middle of doing a video with the current 2021 Zastava M85 options.

[@nedanschutz]

You also have the tactical m85 on gunbroker currently. You may hear from me directly. I haven't decided yet. Intrigued though.

[@misha5670]

@@nedanschutz Yeah, have the base model M85PA and the fancypants M85TAC at the store.

[@airsoftdude1990]

Zastavas are cool but the galil is a MUCH higher quality gun. The fit, finish and build quality stomps zastava

[@BrandtHambrick]

SAR pistol is an oxymoron. It's only a SAR with the 16" barrel.

[@Dfire79]

Hey just some constructive feedback I’m about to throw up after watching your video for a few minutes something to hold your camera would help you record then you could use both hands. On the positive note your videos are very informative.

[@bkhix208]

Drop & tune with KNS, then get back to me… 🤙🏽

[@cmdrcriton]

Don't like the new one's and I can't find a gen 1 ( let alone one in 5.45) so I guess I will stick with my sar and arm.

[@luger700]

It’s the BREN 2S to BREN 2MS all over again. Take a semi-auto version of a military firearm and bastardize it for the American market, the same market that reeees about “what does this do they an AR can’t?” and “does it take Glock mags?” Very happy I have my generation one Galil ACE rifles!

[@ColeDedhand]

Should we infer from the title that most of the time you're not being honest..? Kidding obviously. But the internet has an uncanny ability to miss sarcasm.

[@misha5670]

Hey, ya' never know. "Misha' could just be a persona...a charactor I play. I'm actually a 25 year old Asian woman. Its a reverse-catfish lol

[@rmc7098]

I will stick with my Gen 1.

[@leadcounsel4869]

Nice attempt, but you mumble too much and the camera is too shaky. Seems every time you get to something interesting, you mumble or it's not on camera clearly.

[@christopherbishop4927]

Demographically targeting AR guys that want an AK IMHO

[@surfingtothestars]

its more to do with the demand, not just AR guys. Since a lot of owners who have the gen 1 just added some aftermarket mlok handguard anyways as soon as they bought their gen 1.

[@christopherbishop4927]

@@surfingtothestars as this may be true, I did not

[@polyteclegendgoldentiger1225]

It’s just like most cars now a days they all look a like

[@misha5670]

Not to me....

[@loboloco866]

Fix your camera 📷 😒 😑 🙄 common

[@josephrobison8886]

Natoey--lol

[@josephrobison8886]

PSA has ARs for$500. They work just fine for the generic American.

[@louispittman7367]

It's a carbine STILL. People only call it a pistol because that's what the alphabet punks "classified" it as. So if the ATF say they classified you as Brenda,then that's what we call you now. Right?

[@robreadinger5340]

I hate gun "laws" stupidest shit ever how they classify everything.

[@misha5670]

@@robreadinger5340 There's a certain type of person that truely loves classifying and catagorizing literally everything in this world.

[@Tom-ho9mx]

Basically Mish states exactly how I feel about the Gen II. The Gen II is ugly is every way, sure it’s more modularity than Gen I. But Gen I has way better looking design or in other word it has it own character, and Gen II has lost it all. Sorry to say, but a Big fail on IWI.

[@John-ro3vu]

Those Generic MLOK hand guards are ugly asf. Totally ruin it for me.

[@misha5670]

Me and you both...and i felt the same with the CZ Bren 2MS Carbine, but hey diffferent strokes right? I am sure plenty of guys like them.

[@chromosomehoarder6927]

I am quad rail trash I love the way quad rail looks and feels the mlock is why I got a gen 1 ace

[@aramb5482]

I don’t think this review is accurate at all. Whoever wants an AK but doesn’t want an old Soviet platform buys a galil. The way Mish is saying it is “whoever buys this doesn’t want an AR” since when did galil ever compete with a DI AR? You can’t compare a piston driven AK platform to a “perfectly good ar” there is NO di ar chambered in 7.62 that can shoot like this. And if the buffer tube is the issue just change it they cost little to nothing. This gun is NOT cheaper than the gen1 in quality and the price hike can be blamed on inflation. I really didn’t like this review at all, you’re not looking at it through the eyes of someone who wants to spend 2k on a SAM7 but decides to invest it in a better more modular AK style variant.

[@woahdude3853]

Gen 1 will always be better unless they do something

[@d30gaijin]

I have absolutely no interest in a gen 1 or gen 2 Ace. IMI should do us all a favor, as well as themselves, and reintroduce a classic Galil ARM "rock & lock" in various configurations/barrel lengths. In the mean time I'll make do with my JRA ARM clone.

[@misha5670]

And its folks like you that I point out during my conclusion.

[@d30gaijin]

@@misha5670 Yes I saw that, and probably should have mentioned it. Thanks for another great video!

[@surfingtothestars]

IWI says they have no interest in reintroducing any of the classic Galils

[@d30gaijin]

@@surfingtothestars That's too bad.

[@airsoftdude1990]

I dont think IWI has the tooling for galils any more. I think you would have to source them from columbia or south africa

[@wewon5325]

Hahaha arsenal

[@rustys.1070]

they didn't have to make it as ugly as possible

[@karabiner98-k_89]

Ruined. The gen 1 rock n locks with lower plastic removed actually look really good. But these. Ehh too AR’ed. AK people dont want AR sorry.

[@brandondane4777]

It don’t lock in. Government bs makes them ship it that way.