J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1984 - Public Talk 1 - Truth is the catalyst to end conflict

J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1984 - Public Talk 1 - Truth is the catalyst to end conflict
Summary:
We are going to question everything, including what the speaker is saying.
If you are dissatisfied, not in revolt, with all the things that man has put together, then you are beginning to inquire into it.
Is it possible to fundamentally change human behaviour?
Love and simplicity are the essence of austerity. Can there be austerity without inward clarity?
Do I approach a problem freely or with a solution I would like to bring about?
What is thinking? Knowledge and thought being limited must bring about conflict.
What is the place of thought?
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[@kaushalkishore4217]

After 25 years of my education....finally got to hear a perfect teacher.

[@davidAIserrano]

Esoteric thinkers. Manly p hall is another great teacher. And another could be will Durant

[@arulselva5169]

I'm 17 I guess I'm lucky

[@noone5461]

@@arulselva5169 if you put this into practice of your daily life from moment to moment, then yes, you are, I would suggest to try to observe your thoughts with out any effort to change the content of thoughts for 3 or more hours straight so when you will start understand jk more and later on jk will be your friend and inspiration to keep practising it , but you won’t need any teachers any more, u will become your own teacher, I also would suggest to take vipassana course it is also great tool to discover the nature of our suffering, now when I feel misery fear or other “unpleasant” feelings (now they are not actually unpleasant anymore) there is awareness how that feeling arises there is also awareness of the thoughts, since that awareness noticing constantly that constant change of your feelings and in your thoughts and you don’t try to change anything there is only observation of fact takes place, you finally become free of all suffering that is result of thoughts, for example when there is a sense of pain in your body happening almost at the same moment the thoughts comes in and crates resistance to that feeling of pain, and that resistance creates suffering additional to the feeling of pain, once attention will be strong enough to be aware of itself there is no place for any kind of sociological suffering at all. If more people tried to do what JK said that is observe your misery and stay with and observer all your feelings and thoughts every day every moment there would be more people like Krishnamurti

[@sebop2251]

"Test out. Do not accept something from anybody, even from the speaker." These are more or less those words.

[@rajasekaran1874]

I got him at my age of 55.Got truth of the searching.

[@RaviKumar-qm6rg]

after listening to his talk i realized that i am out of depression.

[@arracinghotlap7115]

I wouldn't describe it as an 'it' my friend it is only you and what you bring forth into life all is withing or so I've heard

[@rajatsingh4553]

Were you diagnosed with clinical depression? Don't belittle a disease. Watching a video doesn't cure anything.

[@aviralgigi7441]

Glad you feel better:)

[@dogwalk3]

@@rajatsingh4553i think it's pretty obvious when people are speaking in lay terms & common pop usage

[@kalapitrivedi6966]

Very simple words, no complicated terminology yet highly effect 🙏

[@ankiitsingh5263]

I haven't seen a man like him. Incredible! Indeed a free man .

[@thinkforyourself101]

This Man is The Greatest of all Time. He has given the answers of how to save this Planet. REST IN POWER SIR. Thank you for all your work.

[@coucousalut4899]

When you compare, you are in the ego

[@wingjin8496]

Yes K…after 25 years a student searching searcher. I finally STOP. Now Only a simple watcher, looker, seeing now our “Flowing IS only in this moving breath now flowing…”thank you “K“. ❤I’m finally getting your message…❤ 🎸Blueschinaman🎸

[@freedomruby1434]

Krishnamurti saved my life. Thankyou sir for your unconditional love and kindness to all.

[@rajasekaran1874]

Oh what a struggle for long 30 years and found him at the age of 55.The search had stopped. K saved me.

[@limalongkumer9395]

He is the real teacher of the world

[@harshitboss]

All experiences are limited. Even quantum physics says this exact thing. Therefore, knowledge is limited and the memory and the thinking and the thought too..And this limited thought is the cause of conflict... What a wonderful explaination.. I wish I was alive in Krishnamurti's era...

[@LDRester]

I wish I would have known of him earlier in my life

[@riolink36]

Thank you, Sir, for providing direction to understand me and to live with the world.

[@rajasekaran1874]

Yes this has happened to me also.The only friend of the whole humanity.

[@priscillamathekga1924]

Much respected from South Africa.

[@Locky78btcourt]

No words to describe j 🙏🏽

[@smaeldelaunay7182]

Un vrai et magnifique humain.

[@legaspirio]

Pure learning and timely.

[@sanciadavidson8263]

I don't know if I would have had any sense to appreciate this as a youth. I sure do value his words now.

[@kamaurahamukti5919]

BRILLIANT 🙏🏽❤️

[@weaamkhalid2478]

Thank You ❤️

[@allpointstoone4346]

a great wise man

[@gaimqyen5966]

Great

[@alexandratrifler2667]

Awesome.

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Alexandra Trifler

[@markrobinson6200]

K walks his talk we thank you great talk

[@binoypatel6182]

Best teacher in the world.

[@user-mx9hh1pw7o]

日本語の字幕で内容が分かりやすいです❤

[@ramongomez8849]

🙏🏻

[@Shunya_Advait]

🙏

[@leoghamari9899]

❤🌻❤️

[@atomschmidt5902]

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[@timothy2817]

🧚🏻‍♂️🌌🦅

[@Infinitelynobody]

How would it be if K and Swami Vivekanda discuss about life and its origin...

[@robertopuccianti8498]

🙏💥🌻

[@Anonymous-uf6xo]

Thoughts are cause of conflict How bwcaue twhy are limited and there will always some gaos that thought cannnot fill and can be questioned which ithwe thought which sre in opposition.I don't know how thiyfhr cause if conflict like how??

[@deanchapman2465]

So we say, let's say that thought plays a big part in some relationship of yours. Thought is limited. Your relationship, your connection, is not contained in it--am I getting this right? So then, JK says...........Thought --> Sense of Division --> Conflict. And conflict is already 'the very essence of violence.' (Do not, suggests the speaker, do not begin to think that violence is 'out there'.)

[@smaeldelaunay7182]

En ce monde d'experts je n'ai pas vu d'amis sincères en 2022

[@srinivasarao6171]

15:05 one wonders why a young nation like this (USA) is so caught up in the travail of experts... so we are losing our own... inward stability and clarity... and a sense of behaviour. This is true with the whole of humanity, not just with the USA. The experts, the specialists, the professors, the sophisticated and of course the gurus, the leaders of every kind and galore are literally bulldozing the human mind making it flat and manageable. To break through all this is the real creativity, again not as a reaction or a synthesis of opposites. The very perception of the fact as it is, without any distortion, brings its own action which is right under all circumstances. Easier said than done. This very sensitive observation and perception opens up new vistas and horizons in the human mind; if it is free from all reward/ punishment, reputation or any other psychological accumulation or some effort to be or become.

[@kahlschlag17]

Only thing I think Krishnamurti (with all due respect!!) misunderstands Atman to be the self. Atman is just a word for the consciousness he is talking about.

[@krishthakur9573]

53:35

[@ouro-tagbasadikou3151]

If everything thought has created is a source of division but language diversity and skins color I mean race weren’t created by thought. But if see closely it also create the division. How can you explain that ?

[@ciskaschenk]

How come language would not be created by thought? The naming of skin color and so on is created by language. K's talking about thought in the psychological field. In relation to our perception of our own being, towards relations, life.

[@ciskaschenk]

Just listen again and listen to other the many talks of K.

[@punithm7770]

Truth bomb LOL

[@hariigaire]

20:58 What does he mean : It's not the sunlight unfortunately 🤔🤔

[@gospodine]

That he's not a prophet, a Guru, a person to follow blindly .

[@scott-o3345]

My impression is that he's referring to his sweating. I'm just guessing, though.

[@nsandeepk]

That light is purposefully - probably it means that he intended to have the session in open natural env. For the tiny movement there was a halt in the flow of his speech, which he means not to account the glitch to sunlight rather his delay in taking action over his unconscious body reaction.

[@sandrak3706]

Cualquiera sabe, todo él era un misterio.

[@danw7373]

He says it's a discussion then wants to bite someone's face off if they speak?

[@marshadingle3550]

Socrates

[@TheGeetha1950]

what if we are faced with a serious health condition (a problem )which can be handled by medicine and surgery .....do we seek to solve it by finding a solution ....or would it be self centred ness to extend life.

[@TheGeetha1950]

clapping hard but coming back “tomoro to listen to the whole of it

[@partha91]

@@TheGeetha1950 Yes.As long as we are trying to extend anything which is unnatural.We do not know what is spontaneous living and so we try to extend the lifetime or anything with which we are identified.We do not live with facts but with dreams, thoughts of future etc.

[@ciskaschenk]

@@TheGeetha1950 it doesn't matter what it is. You decide whether to live with or without surgery. It's your life, your decision. Try listening again and again. Questions are ment to inquire. Not to find out other person's opinions about you.

[@janklaas6885]

🇺🇳1:05:28

[@JasonBunting]

Another guru telling you you don't need a guru, and yet, no one seems to heed that part. ;)

[@WhiteFace2012]

this man is not a guru, a guru is the one who is giding you, he is just talking about stuff and it led it to you to interpret thta, he always say, don't believe me

[@user-em9yy3kf2w]

全然日本語じゃない（笑）

[@mikeq5807]

Thought, I would disagree, is indeed useful and vital to meditation. The speaker is being hypocritical to say otherwise. Those fine lectures are product of thoughtful meditation. Another hypocritical assertion is that if one says he knows, he does not know. This is not meant to be understood as absolute truth. It is designed to get you to think meditatively. In this respect, it is like a koan. Why hypocritical once again? Because the fine speaker would not be speaking to you if he did not know. In the same way, Laozi would not have written his Dào Dé Jīng if he did not know. That one who knows does not know is a statement to deepen your understanding. The question to be asked is, what is the not knowing referring to? That will ferry you to the next shore of query.

[@GomteshUpadhye]

He is talking about thought in it's psychological nature alone.

[@ciskaschenk]

@Mike Q This is your conclusion. You may not have understood what K is trying to explain.

[@ciskaschenk]

@@GomteshUpadhye Absolutely.

[@rajivmishra6278]

sir I think you have misunderstood the purpose of speaker how many time does he have to say to you that we are walking together, we are exploring no body is authority he is just using thought as a means of inquiry words are just a means to put his observations about human mind with people he is only instigating you to explore how can such humility be misconstrued as hypocrisy I just don't comprehend

[@atomschmidt5902]

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[@azurebttrfly]

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