Jackson Katz: Violence against women-it's a men's issue

Domestic violence and sexual abuse are often called "women's issues." But in this bold, blunt talk, Jackson Katz points out that these are intrinsically men's issues -- and shows how these violent behaviors are tied to definitions of manhood. A clarion call for us all -- women and men -- to call out unacceptable behavior and be leaders of change.
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[@AchyuthShankar]

"In the end, what will hurt the most is not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends"

[@gabrieleelenapuisyte4928]

This needs to be boosted. This is very important message

[@heelswithjuliarose]

I love how he is so passionate, he is out of breath. I GET I DUDE AND THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!

[@johnthehumanist2333]

lose weight...............

[@faded9581]

I think it’s anxiety. I do that when I’m speaking publicly

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@r.m7808 ?

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@r.m7808 Yes,but peeps were saying he was out of breath! One way to change that is to lose weight, medical science! it's ok,i know socialists deny biology!

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@r.m7808 socialism online/in media is pro obesity! and this man is quite stocky,it couldbe OVERWEIGHT,i don't know for sure but it could be and it's a safe bet! sorry if i hurt your fe fees!

[@MagalitaRomeoz]

This video is from 2013, it's so sad that we are in 2021 and we are having the SAME problems.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

problems like feminism?

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@R S ?

[@jacindal7539]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@NoMondaysToSee]

Another year later and still nothing has changed.

[@VOIICENetwork]

2022 now 😢

[@Imhotep.inwords]

This is so important. Some years ago I became aware of my own misogyny and began the process of unlearning it. And over the years since I’ve challenged my male friends and family members when they’ve said or supported sexist comments or ideas and at first it was uncomfortable for them, but over time I think they began to really appreciate it and our conversations have really matured and so have our friendships.

[@allisonluciacastillosmall49]

Hi Imhotep! I think is so great you became aware of it and de-constructed yourself and your environment! Wanted to know, if its okay for you, how did this change process started? how so you became aware and what motivated you to change? It may help others going through that pathway too, or wanting to help loved ones to improve in this regard. Hope you are having a great day :)

[@miraigreen8272]

That's very sweet

[@Ryzot]

I am very lucky to have never learned misogyny. I wasn't raised by anyone, I had no friends until highschool when I met my best friend who was really popular, which made me really popular and I then gained a huge friend group, and this friend group was very special in that it was comprised of so many different personalities, that there wasn't a hint of judgement towards anyone. so there was no pressure to act a certain way. so i never learned those negative behaviors.

[@idktbh.2421]

Smart man.

[@renab.9202]

This is the change I'm waiting for. Great that you could detect it and that you're actively working on it like that. That gives me hope in the dark times.

[@VivianStorm]

I honestly dont get why this video has so many dislikes. Everything he said makes perfect sense.

[@renab.9202]

The predators/misogynists don't like to be exposed and analysed.

[@carolinakent7628]

exactly@@renab.9202

[@h_llama]

"If you remain neutrality in the face of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor."

[@AlliancedTrolls]

Hetty L "People who blame you for minding your own business will label you as the oppressor."

[@paulerdosdaughter]

Hetty L What is the definition of neutrality ?

[@Florence00pi]

After I saw this vid (as a man) I was really baffled by the fact that it got so many thumbs down .... I don't get why

[@moonmissy]

Because those are from men who cannot own up to the acts men and perpetrates on women. It’s a men issue! Some men take issues with growing up and owning up to what their gender do.

[@nukemars9445]

@@moonmissy shut up

[@moonmissy]

Nuke Mars can’t make any women shut up now.. ha ha ha pathetic loser!

[@TheGoaterGoat]

Cuz only men cause violence 🙄 Woman cant abuse men that’s literally impossible

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@TheGoaterGoat NO IT IS NOT!!!

[@user-js4rl7lr7m]

I don't really understand why this video has so few views because it was published more than six years ago!!! This words are so obvious and essential for us in modern society. I get so scared when I realize that almost nothing has changed in the issues of violence since then, especially in countries other than Europe and America

[@johnthehumanist2333]

Do you mean like the important issues of political balance,fairness and reducing bigotry against men and boys? Misandry is a increasing problem! Like the old saying goes/ "when hunting monsters,do not become one yourself"

[@klarienvanzyl4720]

I agree, it actually makes me kinda scared and uneasy knowing that their are thumbs down.

[@FishmasTree2]

Since WHEN? Out of the past 10,000 years of sexual violence, when exactly is “the moment”?

[@drunkrealtor]

So I spent 8 years active duty Navy and repeated this Bystandard Intervention training annually and I never knew who came up with it. Now I am a full-time student at Loyola University New Orleans and I came across this video as a part of our material and I'm like hey... I know what he is talking about. It is a great model and I think if somehow this training could hit the whole nation's population it would at least bring numbers down. I think right now, year 2020 would be a good time to somehow boost this video or do another one to bring it into the light. The country is very receptive right now and TED talks have become more and more popular. This material deserves more than 260k views.

[@annakabourque4216]

lol same geaux wolves

[@johnthehumanist2333]

It is a lopsided video!

[@johnthehumanist2333]

This vid is gyno propoganda!

[@aprilneault]

I absolutely love this! Jackson Katz nails it. Violence is a male issue. Focus should be shifted. We need to redefine what it means to be a "man" or maleness. I wish we could clone this man.

[@faded9581]

I’m here because of Sarah Everard.

[@kenandchr]

more men need to see this and take it in

[@elainemoore7627]

Me too

[@kirstinmarlyce1862]

Me too.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

I wish far leftists would stop acting like vultures over this young womans death!

[@GoingProWithTarot]

Thank you for your leadership, Jackson Katz. This is the message!! Creating a "currency" where respect rises above denigration...for all. Would like to see your presentation at a major TED talk with a significant male audience. Namaste' Katrina Wynne

[@crazyg4j]

I should know by now to never read the comments......

[@chiefjudge8456]

I know right? Can't have ONE discussion about women without neckbeards screaming "WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ?"

[@revspinnaker1932]

+Carol Danvers When it comes to child abuse, feminists are keeping us in the stone age.

[@revspinnaker1932]

Great at name calling Carol. The last refuge of a desperate argument. OK, why did feminists bury Barbara Boxer's Violence Against Children Act?

[@revspinnaker1932]

You really don't say much do you?

[@PavanMehat12]

Absolutely!!!!!

[@britishbuffalo21]

"In a sense, isn't your silence a form of consent and complicity?" Wow, that was powerful.

[@user-ee7vr9nn8f]

This Talk was made 10 years ago, which I give thumbs up. Could we have an update, please?

[@SeanLumly]

Bravo. This is a talk that needs to be heard and to be thoroughly understood.

[@Shannon-gl3ip]

I love this video I love the message and I love Jackson Katz This is a societal issue that men haven't been and need to start being a huge part of

[@hillsburghsangel]

Women often get blamed for sexual violence towards them which fuels the idea that it’s not men’s issue. This is age old problem. It’s narcissistic abuse, like a nail in the coffin. It’s time for men to acknowledge their responsibility. I’m a CSA and SA survivor myself. I’ve never dated one man who did not become violent in some way or another and I was blamed for it. “No” has to be taken as a final answer. Blaming your victim doesn’t free you from your responsibility and actions.

[@kately9958]

I really shouldn't read the comments.

[@SuburbanoidMisfit111]

What 'feeeeeeels' bring you to comment on a video that you clearly don't agree with Debar? The 'Feeeeeeels' to be a typical dickwipe MRA troll on anything that may concern women? Well done, I am sure your powerful (whining) arguments are driven wholly by stoicism and 'logic'. Bwa a ha ha aha ha. Whatever.

[@kustomkure]

he is right, I am with you on that

[@jamesdouglas2905]

Hello just here in 2021 to say how on earth have 20% of people voted this down? I mean I think I know the answer but still...

[@tartxcherries]

You can check out several of the other comments and see men lashing out because they don't want to take responsibility for their own actions on several posts here.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@tartxcherries You have no evidence anyone in this thread has done anything wrong or illegal! You are another far left whining crybully!

[@mshellokittyluver1o1]

^Exhibit A

[@tartxcherries]

@@mshellokittyluver1o1 yup. He's all over pretty much every other comment posting nonsensical bullshit.

[@mshellokittyluver1o1]

@@tartxcherries right? and he's been coming back for the past month and liking his own comments like dude get a life.

[@Anonymous5611k]

Its not a women or mens issue, its a Human Issue. We are creating a problem by separating ourselves into groups. Men and women need each other, hence this so called issue is not either man or woman but a human problem.

[@FredGumbo1]

Yes, Human Men quite often beat or kill Human Women. It's time that Human People tried to make an effort to stop it rather than forever argue over who did what to who.

[@FredGumbo1]

***** I should think there's an awful lot of over simplification on KZbin - it's in the nature of the site. I still stand by my belief that people, male and female, should really make an effort to stop this behaviour - rather than constantly bicker over who's the worst. I get the impression that most people commenting are more interested in 'gender blame' than on getting to the bottom of the issues here. Coercive and controlling behaviours are not discussed or highlighted enough in our society. Domestic violence is a learned intentional behaviour - it can be made worse by the use of drugs and alcohol, but they are not the cause (though they can be used as an excuse). The perpetrators are desperate to control and dominate their partner, if children get in the way they can be victims too. Domestic violence can create mental illness in the victims. The issue should be much more widely understood.

[@FredGumbo1]

***** Trouble is, it's so hard to define, here's a site that may be of interest. I found it after weeks of searching what my wife was experiencing at work, this was the only site that nailed it. the page here is specific to domestic, but the site is quite extensive... www.bullyonline.org/related/family.htm

[@tarbecker]

Thank you very much. Our society relies on people like these to perpetuate the snowball effect of building up a better world. This idea then spread to friends, fathers and sons, and one day we will see less sex abuse, less pornography, less prostitution and also less dumb KZbin comments of people that don't agree with this TED Talk.

[@sweetiepie9411]

Very good and insightful speech.

[@WePlayTheFox]

I'm disappointed by the number of dislikes. This is an excellent and perfectly reasonable talk, but perhaps some viewers are threatened by its accuracy.

[@GaryKocharian]

In the past I have spoken up and many friends have changed their attitudes and ways and this is heartening. Sometimes though, as with many people commenting here it is hopeless It's great that you do that though, I wish more people had the strength to confront their friends or step in when they felt something was wrong.

[@KimTenneson]

I absolutely LOVE this guy! I try to live my life by that 'bystander' model. It IS necessary to call people on their bullshit, whether it's sexism, racism, any form of hate speech.

[@OniJitsu]

It is called a "women's issue" only when it is a campaign to end "VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN". If we start talking about, "Let's end Domestic Violence!", then we can start talking about it being an issue for all of us. Segregation in language abuses people. He even cites this himself.

[@chiefjudge8456]

Domestic violence isn't an issue for men.

[@OniJitsu]

+Chief Why do you believe that? Were you lied to? Or did you just assume that's how things are? 40% of Domestic Violence victims are Men. If Men call 911, they are far more likely to have the Cops jump on them anyway. (Because those Cops have the same prejudicial ideas that you do.) Men stay silent. They are afraid to ask for help. They are mocked for "letting" a Woman abuse them. (But, if they ever hit back, even once...?) There are no shelters for Men. Many shelters won't take Men at all. There is no state-subsidized counseling available for Men from abusive situations. You know what I call that? Sexism.

[@PhoebeJaneway]

Why don't wa call it "Let's end violent men" ?

[@chrisr3120]

@@chiefjudge8456 Yes it is.

[@Dangersdi]

@@OniJitsu sorry to tell you your stats are wrong for one it's no where near 40 present two wemon get blamed to or did you not lesson to any thing his said yes we need to stop all domestic violence but the fact still remains a man is far more likely to be asulted by another man then a woman so if you lesson his not just trying to help wemon is he no and what about the kids you don't care about any one other then your self if you can't Evan lesson to what his saying it's not just a womans issue it's all our issues and by the way how can you have any one take you seriously when you twist facts chearry pic and don't take what his saying seriously when where fighting against violence against women it is also done under fighting against domestic violence witch yous also don't lesson you'd rather focus on fake stats and lie about things and twist the truth

[@GaryKocharian]

Don't worry you are not at all. At my University I know a vastly diverse group of men ranging from athletes, artists, to scientists who agree with this and constantly strive to be strong male role models. Don't give up, keep pushing for this cause.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

Androcentric men exist,many end up dead or in prison,but that does not excuse bigotry against men/boys. Did it ever occur to you that these men you know do this because of misplaced guilt? The far left agenda is just as insidious as the far right!

[@fatimasiad6181]

I find a honest man filled with truth and integrity to be the sexiest of them all. I bet his wife is very happy with him. ;) Beautifully said Jackson.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

His wife rules the house, nothing to do with sharing/equality!

[@kreshia777]

I do not think he was suggesting that there are no violent women.I am an ER nurse and i have seen men who have been abused / beaten up by a woman.The fact that the focus of his talk was on the male role models and leaders that are needed to help curb the violence does not suggest there is not violence on both sides.you are so correct Raymond, the verbal bashing needs to also be looked at seriously. These things being said the majority of victims of violence in my beds were attacked by males.

[@alexandrahaug1763]

Thank you so much 💚💚 for standing up and talking about this important topic !

[@alreadytakenthe3rd]

We men need to acknowledge that there are certain problems which are primarily our fault even if we are not directly responsible for them. The first step in understanding stuff like this is to acknowledge our privilege.

[@acidsunstudio]

thank you for posting this video

[@GaryKocharian]

Excellent way of putting it Florence. So many guys on here who are disagreeing take this so personally without focusing on the fact that, hopefully for the most part, they are not the problem, but the solution.

[@stephaniejade7056]

WARNING: So many anti-female woman-hater comments in the thread. Do not read the thread of comments. JACKSON KATZ, thank you for being a REAL MAN. May God Bless You and Your Family. And, thank you to all those out there who UNDERSTAND what Katz is talking about, and apply it in their own lives and community experience. Blessings, Peace & Love.

[@toddreynolds6522]

A real man. Shaming language, as always

[@stonecold2589]

This is why I'll never apologize or be ashamed for being a straight dude.

[@LanceWinslow]

Good passion in this speech.

[@Stressymessy]

when i lose faith in men completely, i come back to this video for hope. Its SAD how unfamiliar those questions are, asking why men do this, why men hurt children, why aren't more people asking that?? family annihilation has been on the rise for years and no one is talking about it, why is no one talking about it? Why are we talking about TikTok bans in Congress but not the violence against women? The violence stemming directly from men.

[@TseyiHastiin]

He is a revolutionary that has a message I will carry on for the betterment of our humanity. His message is a balanced recognition of everyone to achieve truly civilized actualization. Sadly, it looks like some of the women in this comment section are defending the male privilege because they may be as much of the issue as the men. The dominance and power of the dominant group must listen and watch more often. Our time is not the era of barbarism anymore. We have the technology to enhance our lives, and ultimately, society!

[@Mm2Lovely]

+Jay Draper thank you. love you. He IS absolutely a revolutionary. He is what i sense a real man is who takes a stand. He stands for men And boys who are abused just as much as he stands for women and girls who are abused. the system is sick, so the question, "What is up with men' is a good question because even if a man isn't being violent, he may be being silent. And i don't mean you n the other good guys on this forum. :) Thank you..

[@theknowall2232]

The Katz talk is false man-shaming which is a normal component of feminist indoctrination. Want the truth? Listen to a female researcher making a presentation. KZbin search for: *NICOLA GRAHAM KEVAN 2008* Nicola Kevan is an aggression researcher specialising in intimate partner violence. Look her up on Wiki. Notice how Beckë (radical feminist) complements the initial comment by Jay who supports the feminist ideology of patriarchy theory. Jay may not actually be a male, but Beckë's comment demonstrates how women manipulate men.

[@AmphiptereSiX]

What an absolutely flawless talk. He put forward some ideas I had never considered... Thanks a lot! This was really educational.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

This is gynocentrism!

[@OakleyANDSittingBull]

@john thehumanist, Hogwash! You’re apparently a non-humanist. More like a *BLACK PILLER* misogynist androsupremacist TERRORIST. Simply bringing up and lecturing on this *en masse social issue* in order to humanise men and boys, to re-educate away from all sorts of abuse types that target ALL sexes and gender identities, globally, but ESPECIALLY women and girls, to the point you *Dark Triads and Cluster-Bs* must be outed as you’ve chosen to NOT CARE and have actively perpetuated abuse against womxn, girls and children *so much* that it’s been a PANDEMIC for several DECADES and *worsens by the day.* It is not suggesting a “gynocentric” society at ALL. Take your wannabe cult leader self out of such conversations IF you’re going to not assist toward positive change for ALL, meaning away from hatred and abuse of privilege toward EQUITY. Not gynosupremacy, just EQUITY. If that’s too much to expect and request, you’re ungrateful, dangerously unrealistic and insane. Your lower comment, propagandising yet again, falsely claiming this lecture is a form of “misandry” is a bold faced LIE. You need to *leave with your misogynistic propaganda* because plenty of viewers and listeners are learning - by the DAY - about you hateful, violent, harmful, criminal, traumatising, cowardly, weak, cowardly, ABUSIVE, DISORDERED b*stards!

[@matchagirl7]

This is so validating, thank you Jackson Katz!!!!!!

[@Bimdorf]

I think I'm getting the hang of this: "Mary took the kids and the house from John. John lost the kids and house to Mary. John lost the kids and house. John lost. John is a loser." Oh.... I can totally see the potential in this linguistic circle jerk.

[@vandenbeusschemaud3359]

waouuw you're so smart , impressive!

[@Tomtaroo]

So Divorce = Violence? Flawless logic there.

[@britantics6950]

Wow what a winner you are. Internet sarcasm.

[@nirupamasharma4389]

Thanks a lot man, it made me emotional. Felt like a man is speaking up for me against the men who abused me!!

[@user-lf3zo4pc7f]

I feel the same!

[@VaiskiH]

great, great, great talk. thank you. especially loved the mention "i know there's more than men and women, there's more than male and female".

[@johnthehumanist2333]

472 genders and counting............

[@VaiskiH]

@@johnthehumanist2333 Indeed! Isn't it cool? One day we'll reach the point where gender disappears entirely, and what a day of joy that will be! :)

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@VaiskiH your comment is a contradiction???

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@VaiskiH will never happen,nothing wrong with heterosexuality!

[@VaiskiH]

@@johnthehumanist2333 Why wouldn't it happen? After all, the ideas we have about binary gender are only 200-50 years old (depending on the specifics). Within all human history that's a very short time. Nobody mentioned sexuality? But I guess you might think of the "distinctly different genders are needed for sexual attraction" fallacy. Tell me, have you ever met a man who is attracted to every single woman he meets? I mean every single one, no matter her age or looks. I certainly haven't! Most people are only attracted to people they find attractive :) For me personally, a combination of masculine and feminine features is much more attractive than perfectly aligning with the binary gender norms.

[@GaryKocharian]

That gets tiring for me to hear as well. Especially with all the time and energy i invest, as a male role model in my community, working towards ending domestic violence. But just think, who is more likely to put an end to at least the men's side of domestic violence (which is the most frequently occurring). Us, we as men, and that's why I stand up for this and take action towards reducing violence. I don't spend my time whining that male's are victimized in a feminist society (not to say u do).

[@johnthehumanist2333]

socialism (feninism) is a gynocentric culture, like traditionalism is androcentric! LEARN! sorry for whining,oh imean having an opinion!

[@ykMMD]

@@johnthehumanist2333 lmao, sure dude

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@ykMMD MARXIST OR COMMUNIST? which one are you? 🤮

[@jimseptuagenarian4482]

Warren Farrell (Myth of Male Power) has been has been shouted down several times by women's groups. I think he presents a fair look at many negative issues men face and how these issues may promote male violence. We raise our daughters differently than our sons. We don't teach our daughters to defend themselves against violence, while teaching (dehumanizing) our sons to be violent. Why?

[@SuburbanoidMisfit111]

Maybe you males embrace violence more than women. Sure looks that way looking around the world in ALL cultures.

[@jimseptuagenarian4482]

To embrace women men must be prepared to protect them by any means. Since this is still a very physical dangerous world women much prefer powerful men over wimps. And men suffer by (more often than women) being victims of violence.

[@Dangersdi]

@@jimseptuagenarian4482 yes but it's from other man witch is what his getting at

[@twoshakesofaratsass4748]

@@jimseptuagenarian4482 Yes but that's not from women mostly. That's the fucking point

[@awesomelyizzy]

I agree 100%, and also very well argued indeed.

[@Glwstick18]

I really wish a lot of people who have commented on this video took the time to watch and consider this entire video before they commented. I think a lot of concerns and complaints in the comments were addressed by Dr. Katz. His commentary was really about creating a non violent more empowering world for everyone, INCLUDING men since men are most often the victims of other men's violence.

[@mindprism]

Thank you also, take care.

[@erinwilkin7169]

Awesome message!!! one that needs to be herd

[@johnthehumanist2333]

i feel framed after watching this video..............

[@SpikedYum]

"One of the many ways dominant systems maintain and reproduce themselves, which is to say that dominant group is rarely challenged and made to look at its dominance because that is one of the key characteristics of power and privilege". And then he excludes women from the abuser role... Do feminists simply not understand the astounding hypocrisy in their word? How so often they defeat their own points if you merely apply one of their points to another? *Facepalm* Wearing a suit doesn't make you any less of a clown.

[@lovefor6ofthem]

TragedyStrikes precisely my point !!! it's a glaring contradiction

[@jenniferkerie9312]

I was raped very recently.. I didn't really know the guy, but I did get a first name and a phone number.. This traumatic experience hasn't stopped messing with my head.. is there anyway to be able to block it out of one's mind easier? and if so can you let me know

[@m.cabralfly9760]

We’re raising a 10 year old and this is refreshing. We’ve taught our son it’s okay to stand alone when standing for something he believes in. So far, he’s made some good stands. Thanks to your teachings we can show him your videos so he sees this is the proper direction of young men and not just because Mom and Dad say so.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

A lot of the wording in this video is far left,marxist!

[@ariannasosnowski1855]

This is amazing, everyone needs to see this

[@johnthehumanist2333]

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[@Niragan]

Very articulate, great talk!

[@johnthehumanist2333]

lot of androcentric women and gynocentric men in the world!

[@user-ee7vr9nn8f]

My Father always walked away or corrected men, even as a soldier in WW11. My Mother also a soldier WW11, faught for women's rights.

[@alreadytakenthe3rd]

He directly addresses people like you at 7:22.

[@pennykent5687]

This guy gets it. Thank you.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

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[@GaryHighFruit]

It's sexism. Men are not more violent than women. It's a myth that society perpetuates (with things like this video)

[@johnthehumanist2333]

so,you think all men should be gynocentric?

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@C Fah 😅🤣😂

[@frecklefingers]

If you find it necessary to judge me, please judge me as an individual.

[@soyusmaximus7176]

+Spasmolytic You misogynist shitlord.

[@frecklefingers]

Bhut_Trolokia - I have an idea. Chew on a soiled tampon.

[@bhut_trolokia9954]

Spasmolytic Advice: Look at the changes I nearly immediately made to my comment to address it at the correct person before you even reacted to it.

[@greekgirl209]

He's talking about a social problem in this country from a broader point if view. Changes are made by a collection of people, just like positive changes this country has made in the past...from a broader perspective. He's right. Domestic violence and violence against children is out of controller. I agree with him, you can't change anything if people keep looking the other way. Change can start at the dinner table, or over drinks, or a conversation among peers but it needs to start somewhere.

[@constancecrooker]

I was a criminal defense lawyer for a quarter of a century, and, in my experience in both urban and rural areas, the overwhelming majority of perpetrators of violence and sexual abuse were men. I'm talking over 90% of my caseload. I don't have the statistics on prison populations in front of me, but they prove the same point. There are vastly more male than female violent offenders serving time. This speaker is talking about a culture of male violence that is real and needs to be changed.

[@Porrie13]

This is an awesome and insightful speech. Pretty disappointed in the comments though :\

[@soyusmaximus7176]

I'm afraid misogyny like this will always be a thing, the only thing we can do is to censor it and educate people really.

[@Porrie13]

TheRefractingOne I don't think censorship is the way to go if you're truly looking to educate someone.

[@Porrie13]

Golden Dragon Literally chill.

[@scdobserver835]

+Troo Kidd check KZbin "factual feminist violence against women" and spend just 4 minutes to listen to a feminist debunking this notion that only men are largely to be blamed against domestic violence...

[@soyusmaximus7176]

It's a common conception that speech can't be harmful. We know that's actually not the case, though. I mean, I love the idea of free speech, but when you let certain parties have a voice ('cough'Trump/Hitler'cough') you sincerely open the door for these kinds of insidious ideas creeping up on people and causing them to take action - irreparable action sometimes, so yeah, I do think some form of intervention to keep these toxic anti-equality and similar parties from spewing their hatred so freely might be a good idea, wouldn't you agree?

[@roidroid]

When he first mentioned how it was a leadership issue, where men have to learn techniques to be able to talk out about this stuff without it being socially unacceptable... really hit a note. I tend to get tired (and feel super preachy) trying to educate my friends about this stuff, it's too much work to change literally everyone around you when you grow up in these social circles, so i opted to just let most of my old friendships fizzle out. But these ppl are just someone else's problem now :-/

[@tartxcherries]

Hopefully though as time went on you were able to find friendships that were more on your level. Having the support of a likeminded group of friends can definitely make it easier to call stuff like this out.

[@igorkrupitsky]

This guy is a verbal virtuoso! I liked the part where he said that he was not doing the sensibility training with the marines but he was doing the leadership training. This is how I am going to call it when I will be lecturing my kids. :) But I think my kids will see right though this.

[@leetrevor59]

I was a victim of sexual harassment and discrimination due to my racial color and gender in high school. I had to deal with that burden all through high school and it was not easy because I felt like my best friends were acting like devils, but high school is a place to meet new people and not a place to create hell. Domestic violence against women and men has to stop in our society, especially men acting violence towards young men like the Penn State University example.

[@Shirlyswirly]

all the videos of women discussing these issues, unless from an anti-feminist point of view, have so many more negative comments and dislikes. the fact that this time its a man speaking and the response is so different, says something about us as a society. About how we don't take women seriously, and how offended men get when a women tells them the truth, but will only ever listen if its another man saying the same thing. i see this time and time again.

[@Shirlyswirly]

David Archer that is because our society sees women as "too weak" to do any harm, and therefore if she hits someone its no big deal because she is just a woman who does not have the strength a man does and therefore he just has to suck it up and "be a man". this is a result of gender stereotypes, and this mindset is why women can often get away with that. If we as a culture work on less pressure for violence and strength in men, and learn to take women seriously the way we do with men, then we can work towards fixing this problem and almost all of the things discussed in this video, because this is the root problem.

[@swimdownx6365]

538659 f sense when you have it back wards who laughs at crotch kicks and dreams of beat unfaithful or said the wrong thing. who Bragg's about every one being afraid of their power. and first thing they ask would you die for me

[@alexiatr]

The comment section totally proves his point.

[@jemijenkins779]

I respect this guy for speaking out as a guy. The courage it would have taken to do this would have been huge- we need to empower not just women, but everyone on this planet, so that everyone can speak out against things that are wrong in society.

[@harryseldon6712]

Agree.. that things are wrong in society. This video is very wrong ... pure gynocentrism. Want the truth? Listen to a *female* researcher making a presentation. KZbin search for: *NICOLA GRAHAM KEVAN 2008*

[@jeremyzloty5116]

I personally don't know much about linguistics so I'll leave your comment as is but this talk was definitely TED-worthy. Admittedly, this could have been a better 'talk' however that does not dimness its importance in helping to bring this problem to light. TED Talks- "Ideas worth spreading" and the toast is only just being buttered my friend

[@JoJaDaRu]

Shouldn't he just say men committing violence rather than specifically against women? In all honesty men are the cause of the majority of violence in the world. Against women and men... mostly men. The domestic violence in our society is probably mostly against women but the rest of the violence, gang violence and fights in the streets and bars, is male on male. 90% of our prison populations are men. Men are filling up our prisons at an alarming rate all due to their incredible violence (I'm not talking about bullshit drug charges). Why are we failing our men so badly? Why are we raising such violent beasts that die so young and go to jail so often. There really is a problem in our society with men being violent, but this kind of divisive talk doesn't really get at that problem, it makes it a feminist issue (although he does say a men's issue) by making it about gender violence when the problem with men isn't that they hit women too often... it's that they hit people too often.

[@majajh]

My ex-wife punched me hard in the ribs. I never hit her, even once.

[@Waranoa]

He said that what we should put into practice is holding leaders accountable for remarks which glorify violence, like we have come to hold leaders accountable who make antisemitic remarks, and that we should also do this in our peer groups. I think that's pretty practical.

[@GaryKocharian]

Jackson Katz is a highly accomplished and practiced speaker, so it is puzzling to me as well. My guess is that many people don't agree that to help solve this issue we need to address the problem of how men are brought up and how men act towards women in our society today. i agree with him because I strongly feel that if more individuals (male, female, other) are active bystanders in their communities and don't tolerate violence towards others, we wouldnt be facing such a crisis.

[@thomasidumisa7463]

nice and amazing

[@designerpaper]

Not exclusively a men's issue but men have a role to play of course. His idea that males need to promote healthy attitudes towards respecting women is mostly already practiced, at least from my experience. Most men would agree that violence against women is wrong and growing up we were taught that's it's never OK to hit a woman. Men who are violent towards their partners typically hide their behavior from others around them. If a women is in a violent relationship she may be the only person who can act to change that situation whether that be reporting it to the police or leaving the relationship, that is why it's seen to be a women's issue, because it effects women directly. This is even more exaggerated in reverse as violence against men is generally not even seen as a men's issue but as an issue only for the male victims and is largely ignored. So, while I agree with most of what Jackson says, I don't agree with him labeling it as a men's issue. Non violent men can be advocates but are not to blame for the actions of violent men. This is a societal issue, we raise boys to be tough and often teach them indirectly that success is achieved by physical or mental dominance. Mothers are just as responsible for instilling these ideas in boys as their fathers. For the most part this is balanced with teaching respect and good values, but for some it is not balanced, usually because the parents do not have these values and may even be perpetrators of violence themselves. You can't paint domestic violence with a black and white brush, it's just too complex for that.

[@ejmmc7803]

Good comments but some editing would be great. Jackson is propagating feminist ideology. He is a vested interest. Listen to a female researcher making a presentation. KZbin search for: *NICOLA GRAHAM KEVAN 2008* I understand you have been indoctrinated by feminism, most people have, view the presentation and you will be cured. I was.

[@designerpaper]

Thanks, I don't have time to watch it now but have added it to my watch later list. I'm curious why you think I'm indoctrinated by feminism? I am not anti-feminist but I am largely skeptical of the agenda of modern feminism.

[@ejmmc7803]

+designerpaper You wrote: "So while I agree with most of what Jackson says". What he said is quite digusting, from start to finish, when he was referred to men. The "power and privilege" nonsense is straight out of radical feminist ideology. Batshit crazy nonsense. To really understand how affected you are, you need to watch Professor Janice Fiamengo's channel titled, *Fiamengo File*, you will benefit greatly.

[@ntothe8070]

@@ejmmc7803 of course you are a old woman so im not even surprised with your ignorant and regressive thinking. Just like in the suffragette movement when old backwards women justified what was happening to the suffragettes.

[@toddreynolds6522]

@@ntothe8070 You keep on hating. Don't stop

[@StephenSaul-xe6dz]

Attending a Domestic Abuse Advocacy course and I’m the only male there. Only sharing because, whatever puts men off, it’s so worthwhile learning how to help someone who may need support.

[@michaelcalderon4523]

What puts men off is the fact that blame is shared when it's a minority committing these atrocities. It's the same thing as white Americans being unable to see the point of the Black lives matter movement. If you make everyone a monster then people will be unwilling to listen.

[@AiCash-mc8fb]

This topic is more relevant now than ever. So much ignored these days. There are more protections in place for gay/trans etc but no protections for women in domestic abuse situations

[@SDRWORK]

Every adult should watch this video on a regular basis.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

YES,to learn about misandry!

[@PBrofaith]

Thank you for continuing the conversation I need the practice. A schema describes an organized pattern of thought and/or behavior. And language patterns drive our patterns of thought and behavior. It is quite well accepted that everything we do has the most often subconscious intention of meeting our needs behind it. not just in some cases in 100% of cases. And yes it is a static language that describes what people are and the idea of retributive justice that creates our violence.

[@angielai12]

this needs to be said.

[@hey.aidid_]

His speech is excellent. We can stop the gender violence if both the males and females integrate into this notion. We should work together to put an end to gender violence.

[@mirandarocho]

I have been binge watching male feminists and similar talking heads and this man seems so genuine and real. You can tell he actually cares about this.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

Talking heads?

[@jillsimons5902]

so beautiful and poignant. everyone should see this. this should be a required video in our schools curriculum

[@johnthehumanist2333]

i think the far left have enough influence in schools!

[@zoeirie]

@@johnthehumanist2333 people want equality and cant have it without people like you politicizing it. educate yourself and consider the benefit for society and not just your political party.

[@Mr_Mistah]

​@@zoeirieWomp Womp Womp

[@PBrofaith]

A surprising amount of the time the only two choices we see are ether submission or rebellion. I believe that when we see only these two choices it produces violence in one form or another.

[@Grigori7]

i completely agree. Heck, Katz even says that when the word "gender" is brought up, people often think it only applies to women, PROBABLY because every time topics of domestic violence is brought up, it comes packaged with a sole-focus on women with male victims getting no, or just a brief mention. These are important topics that need to be discussed with good detail, both male and female victims need to be discussed, and male and female abusers as well, if we are to get anywhere.

[@brunalemos8140]

I am here because of Marina 🦋

[@stopdemockery]

Real men don't abuse anyone. Real men can be neither predator nor prey.

[@stopdemockery]

tiny tim ~ I did.

[@frecklefingers]

+stopdemockery Real PEOPLE don't abuse anyone.

[@PBrofaith]

Thank you for making that clear I can see that I did not make myself clear if you heard me say that authority or the protective use of dominance is a problem. And I understand how hard it is to accept that retributive justice is not helpful. After all most of us have been conditioned to accept it and to adopt its language and it way of thinking and its way of using power from birth. Its how committing violence is made enjoyable one of our basic needs is to contribute to others no need for reward

[@pratimamishra6171]

Thank you

[@ToXiCVaPoRz29]

That's an amazing speech, I almost cried.

[@johnthehumanist2333]

i cried for ALL the victims of female serial killers!

[@cryptid4131]

@@johnthehumanist2333 ???

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@cryptid4131 ???

[@cryptid4131]

@@johnthehumanist2333 ????? i guess you don't even know yourself what you're on about

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@cryptid4131 lazy reply!

[@jesacoggins9745]

Watched this for class. I'm glad I did. Very insightful!

[@johnthehumanist2333]

which class?where?

[@saraeissa4954]

@@johnthehumanist2333 why are you under everybody’s comments here? This man is brilliant. Did you even listen to his lecture?

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@saraeissa4954 because EVERYONE has a right to comment!🤗

[@johnthehumanist2333]

@@saraeissa4954 I HAVE HEARD ENOUGH FAKE WOKE CIVIL RIGHTS TO LAST 10 LIFETIMES! RACE+GENDER BAITERS!😡

[@dandined]

I concur with you wholeheartedly! Was surprised to see such backlash on this video :(

[@johnthehumanist2333]

how deep is the hole you live in?

[@GaryHighFruit]

@@johnthehumanist2333 Way too deep for dandined to climb out.

[@cecibrazilian]

I really like this one talk..

[@TheLargino]

This guy starts out trying to separate gendered violence from violence against women. He then proceeds to conflate the terms he was trying to separate. Let's use the language game: Mary beat John. John was beaten by Mary. John was beaten. John was battered. John is a battered man. Mary beat Jane. Jane was beaten by Mary. Jane was beaten. Jane was battered. Jane is a battered woman. Most people who read the last sentence about Mary from the video and John/Jane in the examples I used would assume that all were beaten by a man? Why? Because people like this muddy the waters with the language they use. Another example: ISIS killed nine men and one woman. Nine men and one woman were killed by ISIS. Nine men and one woman were killed. Ten people were killed; one of which was a woman. Women are being killed. The message is still: men are bad and are the victims of mens abuse. Violence is violence no matter who does what to whom. Take the gendered aspect out of the dialogue.

[@FredGumbo1]

The overriding figures show that men commit violence against women and those women who commit violence against men have very often been the victims of male abuse for many years.

[@FredGumbo1]

***** Nope, according to some other stats that you no doubt won't be happy with - the BBC... 'On average about seven women and two men are killed by their current or former partner every month in England and Wales. Campaigners have called this death rate a "scandal" and say victims' appeals for help are too often met with apathy, disbelief and even hostility by police.' Ray Rice. No idea who he is - just saw a vid of a guy being flicked then taking a full on KO punch to a girl 6" shorter than him, what should I think? Nice guy, or anger issues? What do you think? Following from a UK Government Report. 'The latest statistics reported in the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) suggests that 30% of women and 16.3% of men will experience domestic abuse during their lifetimes2' www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/344674/Strengthening_the_law_on_Domestic_Abuse_-_A_Consultation_WEB.PDF.

[@FredGumbo1]

Jeff D. Oh - here we go - try this unbiased version - every country in the world that publishes stats, has men committing a higher number than women. You just have to look at the stats from around the world, try Latvia, Iceland, France, Spain, Australia, UK, Denmark, Germany, Holland etc etc etc... It's true that the numbers are sometimes quite close - but it's ALWAYS more men than women...

[@Jeff-tv8qc]

Mike Watts Not true. The only "studies" that show that are done by biased ideologues. Actual research shows that it's equal.

[@FredGumbo1]

Jeff D. So you are saying that every country in the whole world that publishes these figures is biased - but that some research that you have access to is unbiased? Sounds fishy to me, who are these unbiased researchers? Are they anonymous too?

The problem with this is that men who don't engage in domestic violence or sexual abuse cannot relate to the problem, it is abhorrent to them. Men who do engage in either, are probably on denial about the issue or it is somehow justified in their mind.

[@Dangersdi]

That's right and that's what needs to change domestic violence in a hole is issue for all of us and to say it's not is insane how many people need to be traumatised or killed before any one listens it dose not only affect wemon it also affects man and children alot of boy and girls who grow up in these house holds are victims too and grow up to ether asult other man or woman or children a child wether boy or girl will ether be vilont or live in fear or have PTSD and other mantel problems dv and is a big issue that we all need to talk about we all need to stand up and say no I well not lesson to you Puting people down or saying that violence is an answer or that demeaning or degrading someone is acceptable that it's ok to victim Shame we need to stop ask what the victim did and tell the perpetrator that where not going to tolerat it any more regardless who's doing it

[@Waranoa]

Also, I was wondering how language should change, concretely; what kind of words/phrasings do you think should be avoided; I just don't really think I understand what you mean without a concrete example of 'bad language' vs. 'good language'.

[@PBrofaith]

I really felt the passion of the speaker. I did not hear any great answers form him that people could take away and put into practice. This is unfortunate because there are helpful tools that uncover what support the violent nature of our society.

[@yoavgilad3354]

inspiring