Jarvis Reacts To Try Guys on SNL

[@christinaiverson2009]

it's so absurd to decide that the party you should making fun of is the remaining try guys who did nothing (other than respond), and *not* the guy who abused his position of power in the workplace and cheated on his wife

[@myliza700]

Honestly I think this is what carries the most weight as far as the writers being the two friends Ned has that work for SNL.

[@ragnhild2674]

@@myliza700 It sounds so absurd, but it has to be true. Or the person who made the sketch is cheating. They even used the classic fallacy of relative privation.

[@buberrycrunch]

@@ragnhild2674 It is, Ned himself said a friend of his writes for SNL and and another of his friends from yale is there too

[@kathylennerds750]

Not surprised a show like SNL would be like that but writers being friends with Ned also just makes sense.

[@lildicky1058]

@@buberrycrunch Yeah I'm pretty sure it's Will who's the writer friend

[@rowie5396]

the fact that first article just assumes that 4 men (one of which is actually gay) wearing dresses and doing feminine things is "grotesque" and making fun of gay people says more about the person who wrote this article than them!

[@chivi-]

For real, I was wondering who would point this out. People getting mad at the remaining Try Guys for existing is so weird! They just publicly lost a friend who threw their business under the bus. Now is not the time to be homophobic. It never is.

[@smciuha3254]

Sensitive asf if you think a man wearing a dress is grotesque lmao

[@can0cringe]

@@smciuha3254 Fr they calling us sensitive when they out here mad about a guy wearing _clothes._

[@luxthesarcastic1027]

Every time they've done that kind of stuff it's been respect and everyone's had a great time. They've also worked with drag queens a lot too.

[@dandy10195]

@@luxthesarcastic1027 Eugene does drag, so this guys take his even worse lmaoo

[@mylamename14]

The irony is that whoever wrote that article is the true try-hard. They’re so desperate for quotable, pithy one-liners that they sound like a nasty little bully who can’t even do basic journalistic research. It reeks of sour grapes and jealousy.

[@MilkChocolateGeese]

reeks of sour grapes....amazing saying. ill be incorporating that into my lexicon thank u

[@semjart]

It was so mean-spirited. And for what? Now Ill remember this author forever as an asshole who punches down.

[@lugoorstar]

yeah this is practically what's annoying with urban dictionary, instead of just saying what they're supposed to be saying and leaving there's this sad bitterness of competition against anything that doesn't exist only on their fragile opinion box.

[@lugoorstar]

(that or he also cheated on his wife and is infuriated that everyone else at the company didn't also get punished)

[@Kill3rrockstar]

Yet here you are jealous of them clearly

[@user-vm6mw5xw7o]

as a woman, the author’s use of “they tried on heels as men and were funny about it so that’s misogynistic and I’m better than them” IS SO INCREDIBLY RICH when they go on to bash them for being some of the only men in the public eye recently who have very strictly and properly held a male colleague/friend accountable. that means IMMEASURABLY MORE to me and femmes in general than any half-assed critique thrown at their comedy that is widely inoffensive. the three try guys are, in my eyes, MILES ahead of the author in being allies towards women. such a man move to throw claims of misogyny at other men without looking at yourself first. absolute fake performative ally-ship

[@KaelWrit]

for real and I havent seen the show but Im on far-left feminist twitter all the time and everyone I see discussing it seems to take their trying that stuff as being pro-woman/femme if anything. Guys trying femme stuff is not inherently bad, it's good actually. So that struck me as weird too!

[@princessaria]

Yupppp, and while it’s often got a comedic tinge, they are often pretty respectful when doing drag or crossdressing videos. Sure, it’s funny to see them clomp around in heels like foals walking for the first time, but they largely just contribute to a normalization of men embracing traditionally feminine things. They generally promote healthy masculinity.

[@hannahlane5675]

@@princessaria In addition, they often talk about how hard being a woman must be from discussing the pink tax to the expectation that women always have to wear makeup and look nice while guys arent held to the same standard. Like they actually do care and take things seriously. Its insane to treat it like they are making fun of the activities themselves

[@peachy_lili]

as a progressive, yes. this is some typical neolib BS, and exactly what I'd come to expect from Gawker pre-lawsuit, so no surprise the new publication is just straight-up mean spirited and not actually calling out anybody who deserves to be called out anymore Gawker was originally part of my journey left, through other blogs like the Root (and even Jezebel at times, long ago in a galaxy far away).. but like everything capitalism touches it's just a shell of its former self -- and its former self wasn't sinless lmao. the Root is still good i guess

[@marietailor3100]

Yeah! Like, they tried menstrual cramps YEARS ago! The whole point of a lot of those videos was for men to experience some of the challenges women face to gain a better sense of perspective and share it with their audience. I couldn’t imagine a more sincere version of allyship if I tried.

[@ragnhild2674]

Even if it was "just" cheating and not an inapropriate relationship between a boss and employee, it's still so strange to make fun of everyone except the person who actually cheated.

[@trailblazer225]

Right? There's actually a very funny potential sketch in the idea that Ned was publicly the wife guy and yet was privately the least loyal to his wife. Like imagine a sketch where the Try Guys are recording a video and Ned has nothing to contribute except saying how much he loves his wife even when it's not at all relevant, and then the second they yell cut he becomes a comically exaggerated adulterer/womanizer, and they keep switching back and forth and making it more and more exaggerated and he's working harder and harder to hide it while recording. And then it could end with the fact that he's cheating in public and onlookers are just like, "He knows we can see this, right?" I'm not an SNL writer but I think that would have been pretty funny.

[@Hannahgs]

Exactly. Like his best friends and business partners for like a decade have a right to be upset about their trust being betrayed.

[@sweetly1634]

@@trailblazer225 i saw another comment saying they couldnt really make that kind of skit because john mulaney is one of theirs, and he was also a 'wife guy who cheated'

[@emiliew5553]

@@sweetly1634 also because Ned is friends with one of the writers for SNL.

[@spOOkytimes]

everyone should look up the show "The Review" with Andy Daly. It's a show where he tries real things but it gets dark and his life slowly starts to fall apart for him pushing the envelope on what he tries, i think one is even cheating. The situation with Ned reminds me of this. "Try Guy Tries an Affair" and he reviews having an affair as one star because it basically ruined his whole life.

[@vae3253]

i just think it’s such a disappointment to see a company handle a situation like this swiftly, compassionately, and correctly FOR ONCE-only to be ridiculed. it’s very disheartening.

[@rowanquynn9964]

The people ridiculing it are typically the ones who feel called out and scared of facing the same consequences. It's sad to see, but it says a lot about the people doing the ridiculing

[@oliviaerror4203]

How this whole thing played out it really opened my eyes to how things that I thought were obvious (like how is good follow HR guidelines and that it’s bad to have work relationships especially with a power dynamic!!) but now I see that a alarming amount of people just don’t think that way??? I don’t understand, kinda makes me mad

[@hagelslag9312]

@@oliviaerror4203 It's worrying when you see how many people victim blame or downplay a situation that is completely life changing for some, they ridicule those who have their life changed involuntarily for 'overreacting'. Happens over and over (Amouranth is now experiencing it). I'm convinced they're toxic and/or abusive themselves because only abusive people try to control the emotions of another (geez don't be so sensitive about it - wow you're overreacting - don't be such a crybaby). Unfortunately we have a LOT of them (look at the percentages and then realize how many people are on this planet... it's loaded with horrible people).

[@OneHappyOnion]

This skit is honestly so difficult to get through. How did they look at this situation and go: "Oh, he cheated on his wife with a subordinate and nearly destroyed a company that he and his friends built for years? The other guys are really overreacting, this is hilarious!" Are they so disconnected from reality that they think Zack, Keith, and Eugene should be the ones ridiculed because they didn't just swipe Ned's disgusting behaviour under the rug?

[@schnozz4301]

Nah apparently it's cuz Ned is friends with an SNL writer

[@OneHappyOnion]

@@schnozz4301 true, but how did it go through all of the people who produce these skits and no one questioned it? Breaks my brain

[@BouncyKnight331]

@@OneHappyOnion because SNL has a history of the same thing happening in their workplace, and they can't bring attention to that, so they have to go after the other party. They also can't make fun of Ned for being the "wife guy that cheated" since John Mulaney is also one of their own.

[@Cove_Blue]

Well seeing as that's how SNL tends to handle things maybe they really do think the correct action would be to sweep it under the rug

[@princessaria]

It’s because SNL is large enough to not experience any real repercussions for workplace sexual harassment (just look at the allegations made recently, it’s hard to even find coverage and they’ve addressed nothing publicly).

[@emjl6082]

the thing that gets me is the wording "hes a try guy and shes a food baby" is intentionally vague and implies they're coworkers on different shows, not a boss and an employee.

[@cas6359]

it’s kinda funny to seriously say “well… but you see… she’s a food baby” and i could see this joke working in other contexts but what they’re trying to imply with that quote is really distasteful for sure

[@octosadventures1949]

It makes me involuntary smile thinking about Jarvis and Zach being friends

[@shirin9452]

Zach is my fav and I’m very happy to hear it 😊

[@dandy10195]

the two guilty pleasures podcasts Jarvis was on about high school musical movies were so funny, i recommend watching them!

[@DPadGamer]

The SNL bit was just uncomfortable, for a number of reasons. Firstly, it seems to blame the (perhaps overblown) reaction the internet has had on the three remaining Try Guys, as if they are stirring the pot because they want attention. It also claims their "FACE OF GRIEF" and heartbreak are spawned from their friend... not being honest with them? It also completely ignores the power dynamic between Ned (founder & manager) and the "Food Baby". Also the phrase "side chick" and overall dismissive tone of the News Lady, painted as the reasonable one in this skit, just normalizes cheating. Which shouldn't be normalized... cause cheating is bad. Is that somehow a hot take, cause the sketch seems to act like its completely normal. It just seems to be slinging mud at some dudes who run a youtube channel / media company for being responsible upon hearing the claims, contacting the appropriate resources (HR, Lawyers) and making an honest response publicly, rather than the man who cheated on his wife and abused his position of power. ...Kinda cringe, ngl.

[@chelscara]

Oh you know someone thought they were so smart for comparing this to Beyoncé, because she needs to have her husband cheating on her thrown in her face anytime cheating happens. They’re all disgusting for this shit, but it’s obviously a consistent view for them

[@shesthebethest]

Yeah the normalizing or belittling of cheating was frustrating. Betrayal of trust is traumatizing for people.

[@theokunkel]

It's pretty cheugy behavior from snl tbh

[@Emnms68]

@@chelscara and the thing about drawing that parallel is that Beyoncé and Jay Z are celebrities if a different fashion. The try guys are KZbin creators who have taken audiences with them as they left Buzzfeed and established themselves as their own company. Many videos involve them sharing aspects with their lives with viewers, and the people they know and love are involved a lot, too. The try wives content creates an even further sense that the audience “knows” them. Parasocial relationships are much more common and more prevalent between internet content creators and their audiences than between major celebrity icons and their fans. Most Beyoncé fans will never interact directly with her, but on YT and through patreon and twitch and the like, viewers feel like there is a much higher chance that a comment they make will actually be seen by the creator and possibly even reacted or responded to by them. It’s just a totally different dynamic.

[@marissashuler7199]

@@shesthebethest Fr!! I don’t see why some think it’s far fetched for the other guys to be affected too - albeit not as much as Ariel but still. If I found out my friend was cheating on a long term partner or honestly in general… I would not be friends with them anymore!! It says a lot about a person and even if it doesn’t happen to me, I would still just be dumbfounded that someone I was close to would behave in a way that I find just so so disgusting ESPECIALLY with serial cheating. A one time drunken mistake… eh it depends on the situation ig. But to have a secret partner for almost a year? I mean that’s just blatantly abusive.

[@bad_bau]

Imagine writing an article shitting on the Try Guy's work when you literally write for Gawker.

[@bad_bau]

I'm queer and heavily involved in queer activism and theory, and every time he talks about Eugene, it gives major internalized homophobia vibes. Like this had nothing to do with Eugene's sexuality, so the choice to spend half a paragraph making a dig about it was a really weird one.

[@hannahb2306]

@@bad_bau right? I’m not a try guys fan but the “this is stupid and you’re stupid and also evil for liking it” brand of criticism is so weird and childish and needlessly cruel without actually even being funny.

[@sageoctober4617]

I feel like the narrative of toxic masculinity plays a role in this too, like “oh these guys are way too emotional and men can’t possibly have trauma” I’ve gone through something similar where a person you thought you knew and could trust does something like this and it’s difficult. It’s actually a lot to process and I certainly wouldn’t appreciate if anyone made fun of my situation.

[@atinypinkmuffin2040]

you should have WAY more likes for this.

[@melbapeach162]

Definitely smacks of that, the SNL skit especially the way they blow everyone’s emotions up to 11 as if men having feelings is just inherently silly.

[@sulaf604]

Brilliant point! I also got this vibe from an article about this situation from Vox. The author essentially stated that the Try Guys were only thinking of their brand in all this and were simply using “therapeutic buzzwords” bc man have feeling is stupid, right? And somehow claimed that all the videos they put out about this (including their official statement witch was for LEGAL REASONS) was simply to stir the pot bc they…monetized them??

[@Shoulderpads-mcgee]

Also I’m just mad that SNL is purposely simplifying and misrepresenting the situation to make the try guys look bad and make Ned look not so bad. The fact that it’s been reduced to a single kiss with the vague term of food baby and so the guys reacted by irrationally firing him and hoping he dies is kinda sick. Because you know that this was a lot of people’s first exposure to the topic and they’re gonna take SNL’s take as gospel rather than find out for themselves that it was a year long affair between a married man with kids and a subordinate employee where the try guys quietly and calmly remove him due to the wife guy being and adulterer hurting their business and livelihoods while not expressing any particular ill will to Ned personally.

[@alyssestephens7726]

Exactly 100% this, thanks for putting into words why I’m so mad at that ridiculous sketch

[@andreahale6999]

It also sucks that they are taking a company that handled this correctly and demonizing them. Their actions should be the playbook for other companies.

[@heartbeat1198]

Ned and Alex both have friends at SNL and it has been confirmed that two of these people were credited as writers for this sketch.

[@grey7685]

Not to mention Alex was also part of a 10 year long relationship, and engaged at the time of the affair (though I believe the engagement has been called off)

[@Ashbrash1998]

They didn't even HAVE to use the try guys, they could have made up people for the sketch. They just wanted to jump on the hype train and make fail to make fun of the situation. Not even a week or two after the situation

[@hecknfrick4236]

I personally believe that the try company did really well in handling the situation. I really respect how they didn't mention Alex and explained their reasoning. Women do tend to get hit with backlash harder about these things than their male counterparts. Also because I don't think Alex was equally guilty, seeing as it was her actual boss

[@Bananachan289]

💯!!!

[@rVnsunshine]

He literally was the guy who signed her paychecks. It’s fucking abhorrent.

[@iguessso1790]

She is equally guilty, because Ned is not her only boss. She could've told one of the other 3. Let's not dismiss that she participated happily in this behaviour because he is her boss. She has multiple sources she can reach out too when she felt uncomfortable. Women say that they are equal to men, so she is strong enough to go ask for help. We are after all in the believe all women era, so everyone would side with her from the beginning like they did Amber Heard

[@ratt2199]

@@iguessso1790 tell me you don't understand the issue without telling me lol

[@iguessso1790]

@@ratt2199 i do understand the situation. But let's not pretend that she is not equally guilty/bad. A cheater is a cheater no matter the situation. I rather lose my job then start an affair with my boss. She could've gathered evidence and spread it online to expose him, but she didn't. She was willingly participating just like he did

[@weemil]

The snl sketch would've been a lot funnier if they didn't add the "interview" thing at all, just had the news anchor trying to get back to the news, while the white house correspondent keeps bringing up the try guys drama. Just escalating that back and forth would've been better, they could've ended similarily with her googling them. I guess ned's friend couldn't resist doing the unfunny boring try guys impression 🙄

[@robineras477]

I’m mad because that could have been actually funny! There was a universe where this was funny but they just blew it and made it gross

[@Rovo04]

Exactly Brendan Gleeson (the host) was so funny. Something about an older man trying to explain the try guys to the news anchor was funny! I wish they kept it like that

[@In_Spite]

Actually, this whole sketch had potential. I think there were bits of it that the interviewer guy was acting like an enraged fan and they could have made that really funny. Like the 'CNN News anchor' could be the one who was like: "Yeah so, this isn't that important?" And the guy could have been like: "NO! IT IS EVERYTHING" and then he could be representing the weird comments that some people leave. Like the 'I wish the best of luck for everyone involved, but Ned can die". And she could be saying something like: "Do you even know these people?" And the reporter could go into the weird stan culture and saying things like: "we haven't met yet, but if we would, we would be friends. I once went to one of the restaurants that they filmed at". You know, like, a 'normal' person who respects boundaries talking to someone who is a stan and doesn't understand that these are real people that they don't really know. They could have a found a weeping person on the streets and ask if they cried for the attack on Kiev, but then they go like: "NOOOOO, Ned betrayed my trust!" You know, just people overreacting to the drama representing the internet and it makes the 'CNN news anchor' question whether she should actually care or not. Maybe at the end of it, she would become a stan as well and start shouting at another person about this? Maybe the haters can also join being like: 'THEY ARE TRYING TO SWEEP THIS UNDER THE RUG!" and then the try-guys release the video explaining what happened, then the camera going back to haters, looking at each other being like: 'okay so, I still don't like them, what do we say now?' Then one of the haters goes: 'THEY ARE MILKING IT FOR CONTENT!' So many great things that this sketch could have been, but they didn't even try it seems...

[@Hokage0kitt]

yea i thought the beginning was silly and then it crashed and burned... cus i get it. random internet dudes that a lot of ppl don't know about, but eeeeveryone is talking about? that's kind of funny.

[@rwolfheart6580]

I felt such whiplash when you mentioned that the article author was gay because it feels so homophobic for no reason. Like the things they make fun of in particular are instances where the Try Guys wore underwear and costumes marketed towards women.

[@jordmin]

For real! And describing Eugene as a “fashionista” was so weirdly pointed?

[@Caelinus]

That us a good point, though it seems like the author was just dismissive of their entire lives, no matter which identities they may have, for literally no reason. Like the fact that they made fun of the er two for being white men, but the implication was only that it was impossible for white straight men to have negative experiences? It reminds me of a lot of faux-progressive rhetoric that carries the illusion of being for the benefit of the disenfranchised but is actually just a way to disguise arrogance and cruelty. So since there is little here to actually be mean about, the disguise did not work and you can see the underlying meanness clearly, which then came out even when they author was talking about the guy member of the group. Which then made it seem homophobic. Like, there is literally nothing wrong with men curiously wearing clothing marketed to women, and the aggression towards them "daring" to do so comes off as unhinged. The joke, such as there was one, is that the guy did not know what they were doing, not that the clothes are bad or those who wear them are worse. It came off as being very trans/non binary phobic even if that was not the goal. The whole hing just reminds me of a particular kind of popular person in high-school who is only popular because they are wealthy and good looking, but their whole personality is literally just saying other people are cringy or pathetic. This is the kind of person who would rant at you for an hour on the bus because they saw you reading Lord of the Rings instead of Dostoyevsky, and then goes home and refuses to try anything new because it is all beneath them.

[@kirlypop1638]

We all know Ned's friend wrote that SNL episode 😭

[@werewooof]

quite literally lmao

[@Lucifersfursona]

Imagine destroying your reputation in comedy for Ned fucking Fulmer 🤡

[@Bananachan289]

I thought that too 😂 Ned is obviously sending a smear campaign via his privilege circle

[@ava_marie_v]

Yup! His name was literally in the writing credits

[@usoppshammer]

@@ava_marie_v Ned’s was????? For real?

[@una9906]

this article is insufferable all the way through 😭😭 kudos to jarvis for reading and analyzing it, i honestly would’ve given up after the first few lines

[@mango_man551]

the article sounded racist & bit homophobic and idk why did it sounded like that,i think it because the text of it or something 😭

[@AnEmu404]

Is that an omori pfp? It looks like one of the slime girls, if i remember! And yes, 100% agree.

[@una9906]

@@AnEmu404 yea it’s medusa!! you have wonderful taste 🫶🫶

[@AnEmu404]

@@una9906

[@AnEmu404]

@@mango_man551 and a rottmnt pfp as well, this is a great reply section! Also, i totally got a hint of internalised homophobia from the article author, since Jarvis mentioned that he’s gay. The whole thing was a bit yikes.

[@imeantloveyou5eva]

the thing about this response to the situation that makes me upset is a male owned company takes responsibility for misconduct of a head of the company and gets mocked for it. good to see we’ve made so much progress.

[@melbapeach162]

The company’s behind gawker and SNL are seriously out of touch and they’re doing a good job of proving that.

[@alithomas7326]

I feel like a lot of people are forgetting and ignoring that Eugene is like best friends with Ned’s wife Ariel. Like if he’s pissed, he has every right to be. Anyone would be pissed if one of their closest friends got cheated on by another of their closest friends.

[@cawright0110]

As someone who doesn't like Try Guys content, but my gf shows me their videos from time to time, they don't mock the stuff they do at all, they almost always genuinely try to have a fun time with whatever they are doing even if that means just goofing around. Media will be media I guess

[@dena81]

They could've easily made the joke that a news story like Ukraine kept being interrupted between statements between Ned and the Try guys back and forth, making fun of Ned imitating their Twitter statement, etc. They lost me with how they tried to really make it like it wasn't a big deal. First off when Jay-Z cheated on Beyonce it was a huge deal, as well as the fight etc. And anyone my age or older (I'm 41) would know most established companies have very strict workplace romance policies. I had one company, big name company, where two coworkers were dating with one the manager of the other and they gave the ultimatum that one had to switch departments. Unfortunately in this case that's not possible as he's the part of the main management team of the entire company and on top of that it does also have an effect on the brand. I'm sure they were hurt he lied to them but in both their statement and the podcast their biggest worry was how it would affect the entire company and anyone involved in the company. It was a situation far bigger than them and that was apparent. SNL completely minimized that and made it like the scandal was she kissed Ned's cheek. I'm sure NBC has their own policies though that doesn't seem to apply to SNL talent, so maybe that's why they don't see it as a big deal. Especially since they (allegedly) don't care about grooming

[@indieoregano]

"allegedly"

[@EF-kk3vh]

Totally agree! The sketch could have been funny if it was about interrupting serious news with ~Try Guys drama~ as a commentary on how people are obsessed with grabbing their popcorn and following internet drama updates even if there are 1) real people and families hurting because of it and 2) other more pressing stories to cover instead. Like maybe there's a little holier-than-thou-ness in that too, like "how dare people get attached to internet personalities they've followed and gotten to know for several years, that's so silly of them! Kim there's people that are dying!", but it still could've been an alright idea for a sketch. What the hell was this lol

[@julsweaver]

When someone close to me cheated on someone important in my life, it really hurt. The entirety of their world felt the shake of their unfaithful behavior. And some people felt I was being too harsh, but the fact is that I lost a LOT of respect for this person when they did what they did. It took a lot of time to get back to a semblance of normal between us. And it's still not normal. This person isn't even my own husband, just someone I grew up with. Cheating affects everyone around you bc it brings into question your loyalty and honesty. For some, that blow is so little it feels like nothing. But to be shocked that others are hurt and personally offended that someone they loved and cared for cheated on their partner? It speaks on the the person speaking negatively of those just trying to feel their way through the betrayal more than anything.

[@marissashuler7199]

100%! I really couldn't stay friends with someone who cheats on their partner. It says a whole lot of bad about that person and their integrity. ESPECIALLY with a nearly year long secret relationship. Just... what the fuck.

[@saraashkir5793]

A couple years ago 2 long term friends of mine were hanging out one night with another group of people, doing something slightly illegal. One of them had a medical emergency and it was a whole situation, and the other friend had the audacity to blame her for having an emergency (which wasnt her fault) because the cops had to show up. She didnt understand why were so upset at her for it and we ended up cutting her off for blaming someone for a medical emergency. She said, several times, “I dont see why that situation has anything to do with the rest of you guys and why youre losing trust in me, youre just teaming up on me.” In my opinion, if someone does a huge thing to someone else that exposes their true character and lack of trustworthiness, it 100% affects me and shows what kind of person they are

[@cassandra.wladyslava]

I had a relationship with a guy for several months before finding out I was “The Other Woman”. I felt so horrible when I found out he was married. In retrospect, however, how I found out is kind of funny.

[@rotmuscaria]

@@cassandra.wladyslava I'm sorry that happened to you, but also why are you leaving us hanging like that?

[@psychadelicpotato8580]

@@cassandra.wladyslava please tell us more

[@sydneyhuff6976]

Ned literally put The entire company at risk. He opened them up for lawsuits and at risk to lose brand deals. He put peoples jobs at risk. And they are all friends so of course they’re upset! The three of them lost a friend essentially, had a friend screw them over AND they are friends with Ariel so they have a friend who got screwed over too

[@adelined]

what blew my mind about the snl sketch is they never mentioned ned was married!! or that he was her boss. how can you have any commentary on the situation without presenting the facts?

[@melbapeach162]

Because who gives a shit about the women in the situation I guess

[@mirirabinowitz3629]

Nice icon

[@KirbyCom]

They like, technically-sort-of-imply Ned's married by saying "sidechick" but honestly wording it like that is a whole new pile of what the fuck

[@galaxyocicat5660]

Because snl supports cheaters they just dont want to admit it

[@shiko906]

I want to mention: Keith: "There's going to be ads, and it's going to be a little weird, but we have contractual obligations." Most People: "Okay, that makes sense. Protect your bag." Other People: "Isn't it weird they put all those ads in their podcast?"

[@whyispickingusernamessohar5559]

“Edgy and judgy for no reason” was my nickname in college

[@casadastraphobia]

I'm glad you've recovered

[@Bee-rt5qf]

“…mockingly performing activities traditionally associated with women and gay men….” Tell me you wrote an article about Try Guys, without even fricken researching Try Guys. There’s SO MUCH CONTENT about Eugene and his sexuality, and how he feels/expresses himself.

[@basementdwellercosplay]

The try guys truly seemed disgusted and hurt by what Ned did, like Zach looked genuinely sad, Keith looked just done with it all, and Eugene looked ready to attack Ned for what he did to Ariel and the kids. Hope the best for them

[@thefrostyslime]

The reason why this was such a big deal to so many people (myself included) was because the Try Guys have always made an effort to be positive influences on the internet (being open-minded towards other cultures, being inquisitive about queer and POC perspectives, etc.), and Ned completely blindsided his partners and their entire viewership by abusing the power he gained from curating that image. The Try Guys made content that wasn't always super profound, but it made life livable on a day-to-day basis for a lot of people; and Ned's actions unfortunately did a good job of reminding everyone that the world is awful.

[@shboomgirl]

It's so rare that men actually hold other men accountable, ESPECIALLY when they're friends.

[@dominickwest7558]

Generalization spotted

[@shboomgirl]

@@dominickwest7558 Defensive man spotted 😂

[@drake_diangelo]

The better joke in the segment would have been the guys trying to focus on more important topics, but the news people continuously going back to it. The Try Guys aren't the ones making this a big thing

[@dangernoodledee111]

I agree, it would honestly have been funnier to me if it was mainly THE GUYS who were confused about why the news people were talking about this. Like, the white house reporter says that they have gotten in touch with the guys, and we cut to the three leaned over a table talking about legal stuff and how their company will move forward, before looking up, completely confused when the white house reporter starts asking them questions. Eugene might even ask "how did you get our number?" The guys continuously keep on trying to focus back in on their meeting, but the random reporter guy keeps interrupting them and asking increasingly weirder and weirder questions while the guys and the new reporter lady are baffled at why these mainstream news outlets are covering this and getting so nosy.

[@clarahesse3970]

People definitely blew the try guys thing out of proportions, but the Try Guys didn't. They tried to keep things calm, and has shared pretty much only what they needed to for transparency and clarification of anything that people got wrong.

[@Bananachan289]

I always saw the try guys not as mocking as trying to challenge toxic masculinity

[@dangernoodledee111]

I showed some of their "Trying On Feminine Clothes" type videos to some of the women in my family, and all of them said that their commentary was incredibly relatable. They never punch down at women or even at the clothes. They just TRY to see what it's like, and they kinda end up voicing the views of many women, like during the "Trying on Prom Dresses" video, where Keith said "this dress makes me feel insecure about my body." They were just absolute moods and confident enough in their masculinity to be perfectly fine wearing those dresses.

[@baileybrian9560]

Jarvis is the only one asking the real questions!! what in the hell is a sweet greens harvest bowl

[@myspacepunk]

@EasyCoast to be fair he'd clearly read and done research around this article/it's author so he could have just looked it up beforehand

[@Shoulderpads-mcgee]

Jarvis is right, I am an average try guys fan and I have no idea what a sweet green harvest bowl is

[@hecknfrick4236]

No clue

[@JarvisJohnsonLIVE]

hang on, do i not say in the video that sweetgreen is a fancy salad spot in la?

[@JarvisJohnsonLIVE]

i do at 7:25

[@olivia7782]

Of all the people to target in this case, it literally makes the least sense to target the remaining Try Guys? Target the media for over-focusing on it or Ned for doing it: even if you don't care abt who's in the right, theres SO much more material there! Like come on! You WENT OUT OF YOUR WAY to have the shittiest possible take!

[@Shoulderpads-mcgee]

Exactly! Why is your take “cheating isn’t that bad, get over it”? Like? What?

[@buberrycrunch]

they probably did this, because of the writers is friends with ned

[@sarahbischoff2375]

That article is annoying partially cause it’s so comedically safe. I feel like stuff that’s actually funny is always vulnerable, it shows care, and this article is just full of mean-spirited hackneyed jokes that any insecure person could come up with

[@myspacepunk]

People who think the guys are milking this... as if Ned isn't responsible for it being public in the first place by cheating in a public place full of his key demographic. The guys didn't say anything until someone else leaked pics of Ned. And then the person who put it on national TV and arguably spread the news around the most is his friend from college lmao. Also... SNL KNOWING about the power dynamic and turning it into a joke ("she's a food baby") is obvious willful misrepresentation.

[@glynislily]

They use “Food Baby” instead of employee to sort of hide just how bad it was. Plus, the Try Guys were never talking to people outside of their audience. They didn’t publicize this.

[@littlewillowlinda]

Why would they even make light of something like this, they said whoa they kissed but like... Yall know it was more than that. It's also weird to comment on something that's hurt other people (namely the wife and kid). Ain't nobody was making fun of bey or saying she was overreacting for making a whole album about it

[@mylamename14]

Ned has at least two friends who are current writers for SNL. So that’s probably a big reason why.

[@Kill3rrockstar]

Ariel should get over it

[@marnenotmarnie259]

@@Kill3rrockstar what are you even doing here

[@littlewillowlinda]

@@mylamename14 yea, I'm kind of surprised no neutral party spoke up to veto such a demeaning take lol. For the sake of the show they could've just Not gone for the idea altogether instead of trying to scrape together a biased hot take lmao

[@Clownbunnycosplay]

Just says a lot, that NED- has not one but TWO friends who wrote on SNL, (said on a past podcast!!) he’s clearly mature and handling it well.

[@Gxmwp]

Apparently one of them was on the credits for the skit too

[@Fionacle]

Like I don’t wanna assume he told them to do it, like maybe they decided on their own to try and back up their friend, idk, but yeah definitely very suspicious

[@isitleeyourelookingfor6352]

I'm actually really happy to hear Jarvis talk about the type of attitude that comes with the article in the beginning. Like he's expressing, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world, I don't think the writer is doing anything terrible, but the attitude bothers me. It's sort of that, everything has to be ironic, no genuinely enjoying anything, no expressing anything in a non-sarcastic way because that's Cringe, no having strong feelings about fictional media or celebrities or anything because that's Cringe, cynical type of attitude. That "I love being a hater, it's fun" type of internet persona.

[@heidiiiiiiii]

You took the biggest chill pill before this because you've reacted the calmest out of the entire internet.

[@CatastrophicGay]

The only person who had said it was consensual was Ned. I'm not saying that it wasn't, I'm just saying maybe we shouldn't just take him at his word when no one else has said it was consensual.

[@randomstuff-qu7sh]

One very big reason bosses shouldn't engage in relations with employees is specifically because of the risk of direct or implied coercion. Even if he thought it was consensual, she may have been worried about what would happen if she refused.

[@BouncyKnight331]

Seriously. If there is ANY kind of power imbalance (which obviously there is) it CAN'T be fully consensual.

[@someoddchick9296]

I'm always sus when someone specifies something like that

[@SicCeboo]

Literally no one. And it feels like hes trying to preserve the idea that the victim also chose to cheat rather than being coerced to cheat and therefore being forced by definition to call coercion, rape. Because his actions are already extremely abusive. He seems like the only person willing to label himself Not A Rapist by calling the relationship consensual, which is telling.

[@andreahale6999]

Also, why should we believe him? He’s been lying to his audience and his friends for sometime now. He is a known liar. And on top of that is the power dynamic of a founder and owner dating an employee.

[@annalicciardi9950]

That article sounded like someone who is pissed and angry at someone's else success... they were just petty

[@joearnold6881]

People might not be old enough to remember the Bill Clinton scandal, but actually, no, the issue for most people at the time really _wasn’t_ the power dynamic. The people using it to impeach him… were republicans. They inherently would not be morally opposed to abusing their power in that way. They just cared about getting Clinton. On the other side you had the libs who, if they cared at all, cared only that he cheated on his wife (and moreover, they generally blamed Lewinsky) The 90s sucked.

[@thebadpoet]

I was maybe in kindergarten for the Clinton impeachment trial, but even as a tiny wee child I got the impression that a lady did something bad with the President. Not like… literally the most powerful man in the world sexually harassing an intern.

[@rowaena6561]

I think it’s interesting that everyone insists it was consensual but since Alex hasn’t said anything we don’t know if it was. That’s why it’s such a bad thing to have a power imbalance. Ned was HR. So she may not have felt she could leave the relationship. We don’t know anything. We probably never will. I think that it was handled very well and professionally. I also love that they said to remember a family is at the center of it. His wife and kids deserve privacy rn.

[@DeadlyAnteater]

all i can think about is how much backlash these dudes would get if they didn’t address it at all, kept their cheating/power-abusing friend in his same position, and swept it all under the rug. i mean, that seems more like the norm at this point. like, for once we’re seeing men hold another man accountable in his professional life for doing something fucked up, and we make light of it all & direct the hate towards the ones who didn’t even do the thing. lmao OKAY

[@Bobo-xm6jb]

Ned makes the most money out of all of them by FAR. His net worth is $10 mil - and Zach being the 2nd at only $2 mil so, I don't think he was worried about the consequences. Maybe he was bored with his home life and they wanted to be caught. It would explain the very public PDA when sooo many people know Ned's face.

[@paranoiarpincess]

Yeah, this article definitely comes off as douchy. It's as though the writer assumes everyone hates the Try Guys without actually checking whether everyone hates them or not.

[@iamalittler]

My major issue with that sketch is that people got paid to write it.

[@RoxxyKaosGG]

I had a boss who asked me on a date. I knew that saying "no" would be equivalent to "fire me". I went to the movies with him because his WIFE "hates movies". He stared at me more than he looked at the screen. My mom called the cops because I was 17, and I am still anxious af whenever I have a male boss to this day. I recently quit a job a month ago after my boss showed me his s*x tape 👌

[@Maria_745]

The "and... they're millionaires" line is just so obviously rooted in jealously from someone who does not have a million dollars

[@Lucifersfursona]

Writer who doesn’t know the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire: tried it

[@jijitters]

I don't think it's that. The joke there was 'oh they're rich so there's no reason to care about their problems' or whatever. I hate all obscenely rich people and think their money should be taken away and redistributed, and even still I know that having money doesn't mean people stop being affected by personal issues in their lives.

[@Bee-rt5qf]

Their “Try Guys, who?” jokes and takes reek of jealousy. I know who Try Guys are without even watching their content. Idk who tf this author is in the least bit.

[@bethdavisjimenez]

People who don't watch the Try Guys don't seem to understand the appeal and why they are so angry. Ned could have lost the guys and the entire company everything! Not only were they close with their significant others, thier entire livelihood depended upon everything going smoothly

[@lamibonxd]

exactly, n everyone painting it as “hurr durr stupid internet drama who are these guys😂😂😂” are so dumb lol

[@bethdavisjimenez]

@@lamibonxd People's lives are really at stake in many ways not just Ned and his family's. People don't see every side of the situation

[@squidee1177]

It’s still so funny to me how people from traditional media slander KZbinrs like KZbin hasn’t become one of the biggest media moguls in the past two decades. Most of the new generation wouldn’t even know what SNL was if it wasn’t for their show clips on KZbin. I know it’s meant to make people who can’t even check their emails by themselves and need to take their teeth out at night laugh, but it just makes them look more out of the loop than they think the try guys are

[@notmychannel6247]

Even the premise of “it’s funny to act like this small thing is as important as big things” is such a throwaway joke. It’s been done a million times, it’s made every single time some internet drama gets big. “What’s a try guy” was the very first joke to come out of the situation. It feels extremely lazy which just makes the bad take feel even worse.

[@missaniebananie6473]

It was like Kelsey and Miles said: They managed to find the only wrong take and ran with that.

[@khirstenh4550]

Preaching to the choir Jarvis. It's wild to see writers/creators/etc who are supposedly "progressive" criticize the guys for... doing the right thing and addressing their viewers directly? but if they didn't say anything they'd be sweeping it under the rug. And of course the other side of entertainment is mocking them for responding full force to a scenario that most folks in the industry would keep secret and look the other way at. Wild times.

[@atinypinkmuffin2040]

I let out a huge sigh of relief when I saw this, because I had a feeling you'd have good takes on this. You proved me right by IMMEDIATELY emphasizing the biggest issue here: that Ned engaged in workplace misconduct *with an employee*, which is wrong on an ethical level because of the power imbalance. I appreciate your work so much and I am so happy you're lending your signature gentle-yet-reasoned analysis to the issue. 💜

[@Emnms68]

Kennie JD made a video explaining why it’s such a big deal really well. It’s worth checking out, imo.

[@wonderlucky1912]

Yes highly recommend Kennie J.D.’s video on the Try Guys. Kendall mentioned she was a viewer of Try Guys videos before she found about the scandal/situation that happened.

[@dangernoodledee111]

Especially because she focuses on both the personal and legal/financial mess that Ned caused. The more you learn about this situation, the more you realize that he messed up more things than you though he could.

[@iniyama]

why they even bring up BuzzFeed I don't get. like...they didn't leave last month, it's been literal years, and using the BuzzFeed name won't get you clicks, just let it go

[@jestyr5979]

the snl skit was definitely for the people who had never heard of the Try Guys and were confused why their social media feeds were flooded with their stuff, while downplaying what happened and making it seem like the rest of the guys overreacted

[@Random_loaf_of_bread]

As an iranian woman, I would rather SNL didn't mention us in the middle of their dumb little try guys skit

[@kyiamack]

I feel bad for Ariel, Eugene, Keith, and Zach. Imagine someone you trusted betrays you and IN PUBLIC and because of your fame, people are shaming YOU for their betrayal and further embarrassing you and making you feel guilty. I could never trust anybody again because you have messed my image and messed up my mental health. And because we worked together also, you messed up our financials, too. Like??? You messed up EVERYTHING for EVERYONE because you were selfish. Was it truly worth it to do all of that and mess it up for EVERYBODY including yourself?

[@tamhuy10]

there's the kids, the other person's ex fiance, the other employees

[@kyiamack]

@@tamhuy10 Them, too. This will follow all of them for years and probably mess up the kids, too.

[@MegCazalet]

They aren’t removing Ned from all previous Try Guys content. They had to remove him from content released during the internal review and after he was fired because of legal reasons.

[@daisie4505]

honestly I enjoy listening to your thoughts on things because you have shown to have a pretty well worded, mature, and thought out perspective on the topics you covered so far and it is a refreshing release from others who are a little too drama.

[@xeracia]

8ve seen others turn against Keith, Eugene, and Zach for "turning on their friend" who "just cheated". I am just stunned at the bad takes this has generated. The SNL skit was particularly gross

[@jijitters]

Really appreciated your take on this. I'm not a Try Guys subscriber but anyone who spends a lot of time on youtube knows who they are, so I had some awareness. While obviously the big legal issue of the power imbalance was the top priority, I appreciate that the other guys took the situation seriously and took Ariel's side instead of forgiving the cheating. The situation with their employment made it worse but cheating is also morally reprehensible and it's cool to know there are some guys out there with enough integrity to drop their shitty friends who partake in it.

[@mollyclifford2242]

Also an important part a lot of people are forgetting is that Ariel (Ned’s wife) was at least a little bit employed by the try guys. She might not be an official employee but she was still in enough videos were she had gotten a pay check from them at least once and she had a podcast under the try guys label

[@MaryAlice08]

The reason these takes make me irritated is that they have to include snide remarks implying that a power imbalance in a work place relationship is a non issue. They could’ve just made jokes about the Try Guys being over hyped without trivializing the legitimate issue that happened with Ned. They’re treating it like this celebrity cheating public spectacle while downplaying the real societal issues.

[@EPiche09]

The funniest part of the skit is this middle aged man with a (irish?)accent, who is a just a fan boy of the tru guys breaking in with his gossip. Mansplaining Try Guys lore to the host.

[@Magicivie]

This has come at the perfect time, thank u 😭

[@tessietooturnt]

agreed

[@pancake7601]

I fully assumed a sweet green harvest bowl was some kind of cereal lmao

[@xxminglexx]

I gathered that it was somehow what a Chipotle burrito was in 2010 but a salad, as in the ingredients being barely a couple dollars but being inherently expensive just because it's that brand™. But I live in Alaska, where brands come to die

[@peterscarpino9610]

Jarvis has such a fair outlook on issues like these. Really respectfully discussing why he disagrees with something instead of just lowering himself and getting angry and attacking the journalist.

[@Lucifersfursona]

Anger isn’t a “lower” emotion, it’s a human emotion, it matters how you handle it. It’s fine people are angry about this. They’re allowed. Lemme guess you think you’ve won an argument when you needle the other person until they snap back, then lord over them with how “calm” you are over shit that doesn’t affect you.

[@jijitters]

​@@Lucifersfursona This is such a weird comment. You're attacking someone meaninglessly because they praised Jarvis for being level-headed. Please take a look at yourself and ask your inner child why they can't stop yelling at harmless strangers on youtube.

[@MsSphinx91]

@@Lucifersfursona OP never said anger was a lower emotion, but you should probably take some of your own advice about handling anger in a better way. Also, you're doing that exact thing where you needle someone to get them upset so you can win an argument that no one really started.

[@arithmomania1237]

@@Lucifersfursona agree

[@emmettvictor]

What is so wild to me is that there is so much material available here! Like there are so many absurd parts to this story that would lend themselves really well to comedy, but instead the gawker writer and SNL just totally fumbled the bag and missed every possible joke they could

[@katherinewoodhouse6106]

So Bowen Yang also co-wrote this skit, and I think his main motivation was just recreating Eugene's look 😄

[@Eiffiel]

This is completely beside the point but it warmed my heart to know that Jarvis is a fellow Andy Samberg aficionado

[@imanidapenha]

A brand new JJ video, I feel premium today.

[@oldshoes5199]

also, with regard to Ned's friends at SNL, on the Trypod ep 166 Ned mentions that he has a friend who is a writer at SNL and has just had a baby, then Alex Herring mentions she also knows a different person that is also a writer for SNL who went to Yale with Ned. that person's name is Will Stephen. so based on that podcast, Ned actually has two friends who work as writers for SNL.

[@chelscara]

To your beginning statements, exactly. I’ve grown out of them and haven’t watched them for a few years, but they’re still great? I’m still glad people can find fairly clean content to watch especially when it’s not hidden behind a shitty abusive family. They’re just doing fun stuff.

[@iPancake3]

You're my intro to the Guilty Pleasures podcast, and it's been my favorite thing to listen to these days! Looking forward to your HSM3 episode!

[@robineras477]

Same. Those are always my favourite episodes of the pod. Kelsey and Jarvis have great back and forth humor

[@CaptainKarebear]

I mean, personally, the fact that they threw in the line "Jay-Z cheated on Beyonce, you're gonna be fine" doesn't sit well with me. Like, Beyonce didn't create a whole album about what happened, I don't think she was okay for awhile. It just really feels like a slap in the face to her for some shitty "comedy" sketch that glossed over the actual issue.

[@AJFilms14]

I still just cannot get over the fact that this Gawker article called men trying on women’s clothes grotesque, it’s just very telling.

[@hsilver20]

This all just reads like it's just someone profoundly bitter that their stand-up career isn't successful enough they don't have to write for Gawker.

[@pinkpunther]

In the actual video they all looked like they didn't want to be in there, having to say this, having to admit this about their friend, but they knew it was their responsibility as public figures

[@MirrorRiker]

I can name more try guys than current snl cast members

[@anonymixx8106]

I'm not done watching it so I haven't seen I'd you mentioned this, but apparently it's coming out that the SNL skit may have been at least partially directed by someone Ned is personally connected to.

[@hazel9490]

I think that the reason a lot of people is taking this so personally is because the Try Guys are the type of people you can watch with your parents, supposedly the safe option. Yes, there are videos they’ve done that are not so PG 13+, but it’s from the perspective of family friendly guys dragged into not so family friendly situations. They’re advertised as average people that we’re supposed to relate to, a branding that insists on erasing the line between fan & friend. Comparable to a reality show if it was produced by the contestants. Now here we have this giant betrayal because Ned, a person that we’re relating to as “one of us”, did something that almost everyone unanimously agrees is scummy. Not only that but Ned’s entire caricature of himself has consistently been cemented as the “I love my wife & family so much I’m going to remind everyone to a repetitive degree”. His public identity as we know it has been shattered. Was it all a lie? Is the Ned I trusted enough to see a part of myself in just a fabrication? With that as a basis it’s understandable why the internet went crazy. Finally, we have the “SNL” type reaction to the controversy. Whether it’s because these people they don’t know are getting what the think is fanatical undeserving attention so they want to have a tantrum because they’re not included or because they thought it would be a smart move to corner the market of quirky people who are on nobody’s side it’s just a bad take. Everyone is basically saying “we’re mad at Ned for ruining the Try Guys status quo & for being a bad guy so it’s uncontroversial free realestate to go complete ape shit at him” & SNL (among other people) are going out of their way to bring the remaining Try Guys into the line of fire for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Let alone the fact that they’re spreading misinformation/misinterpretation by ignoring the moral reason why the internet is so incredibly mad in the first place & going “haha look at all these people getting mad at generic famous person for doing a quintessential famous person thing what snowflakes”. Of course we’re going to be irritated by it!

[@picklewhop]

I'm glad you're doing this cause I wanted to see the SNL clip but I didn't want to contribute to the view count

[@springwater6693]

the try guys have money so they’re not allowed to be upset with their friend for jeopardising their livelihoods, reputations and all of their work in the last 8 years,

[@lorenedwards6427]

Also, a lot of people aren’t talking about how, not only was Alex an employee of Ned, but by her own admission she also was a big fan of the Try Guys before ever working for them and honestly, she seemed like she had almost idolized them even.

[@blakewhite3131]

Honestly though I think this is going to be good in the end for the "surviving guys". like zach said in the podcast, their content had become just recycling what worked, and thats why I didnt follow them over the years despite generally knowing and enjoying them. Im very excited to see them branch out and the way they handled this situation only reinforces that they are good people, and I'll definitely be interested in their future projects. Content creators, especially on youtube, can get caught up in a very standard and repeated experience with their videos, because thats what the algorithm favours, and what keeps up audience retention. It's safe to make generic content, and i know they're creative people who could do a lot more.

[@hecknfrick4236]

I didn't know people made fun of the try guys content. No one in my circles even talked about them until this recent drama

[@samsee_ca]

"I can't be bothered to learn the names of these internet people, who are so uninteresting and unimportant that I'm literally being paid to write an article about them right now" What a weird article. How confusing it must be for readers, who open on this article to get more information about this story, and then seemingly get made fun of for doing so.

[@MeredithHagan]

The main writer of the sketch is Will Stephen. And yes he is friends with Ned from Yale. He was literally trying to mitigate what Ned did in the court of public opinion, because as of right now Ned’s career in the entertainment industry is 100% done. And it would have been funnier if the focus had been the confusion of mainstream media why an internet company is trending, but they had to make it clear in the sketch that the real “problem” was the emotions of the remaining Try Guys themselves, all while trying to mitigate the damage Ned caused. They never mention that Alex was Ned’s subordinate, only that she was a “Food Baby,” which means literally nothing to people who don’t know Second Try, and they reduce a yearlong affair behind the backs of their respective wife and fiancé as a “kiss.” It was wholly disrespectful to the affected parties and well as dismissive of the massive problem that is romances between bosses and subordinates. People really don’t seem to grasp how much of a betrayal this was. Not only were they close friends - they’ve called each other “brothers” on repeated occasions, they formed a business together which was quite a risk and required a lot of trust. Additionally, their families are close - Ned was a groomsman at Keith’s wedding and I’m sure was supposed to have been one in Zach’s upcoming wedding as well! The Fulmers were basically raising their two children communally with their producer Rachel Cole who has twin toddlers herself. These relationships are not easily untangled! For Ned to do what he did is not just a betrayal of his marriage and the company he helped form, but every single person on their lives.

[@Violexie-wb7op]

Also I respect you making a video about this because as a society, we should call out people just being shitty.

[@Shoulderpads-mcgee]

It’s just bonkers insane to me to make fun of people hurt by a betrayal and the hoops they have to go through as a result and who did the right thing and maturely addresses the situation rather than I dunno make fun of the asshole who cheated on his wife while marketing himself as the Wife Guy

[@Basicslag]

when Ned’s “buddy” wrote this sketch, it was low key telling the try guys to “get over it”

[@Jay-th3tn]

Ned’s friend’s name is Will Stephen and Heidi Garner who is a cast member supposedly confirmed that Will was one of the writers for the sketch.

[@alicethemad1613]

Man I’m glad you specified the first article was written by a standup comedian. I would literally never have guessed.

[@autumnnordeen3594]

This whole skit is giving The Ember Island Players.