JCW Slam TV Retrospective | Wrestling With Wregret

[@TheLokiBiz]

There's a relatively recent interview with Violent J where he talks about his regret for past homophobic remarks/lyrics. Here's the quote: "At the same time, we were also crazy homophobic back in the day. And now, my daughter says, “Dad, why did you say this?” And I say, “Because your dad was a fucking fool.” I hate to blame Ice Cube, but we wanted to be like Ice Cube. We wanted to be like gangsta rap, and gangsta rap said it all the time. And we had a gay producer! Our producer was gay! And he didn’t give a fuck. It was us three in the studio - night and day, night and day - making these albums. It was something that didn’t come up. It was just part of life back then. We wanted to be hardcore, and that’s why we did it, you know? And when I look back now, what can I say? We don’t have an excuse. I can tell you this: There was never a time when we had a problem with gay people. It was just the word being thrown around, like “asshole.” It was just something we called each other all the time - just a bunch of dumbasses. And the amount of gay Juggalos out there is really surprising. I think about them doing their research and getting the old records, getting excited about it, and getting their hearts broke or something, you know? I tell my daughter, “For the rest of your life, when your friends ask why your dad said that, say it’s because your dad was a fool. Don’t defend me. Say I was a fool then, but I’m not now.” There’s no excuse. I was going with the flow, and that’s the very thing we preach against - being a sheep. And that’s what I was doing"

[@kevinramsey417]

They were what are called today edgelords. They knew it, they own it, they don't defend it and I respect them for it.

[@Tubahater43]

Much respect for owning the mistakes of the past.

[@TheLokiBiz]

@@Tubahater43 Yeah, the reason I figured I'd post it is cus as a bisexual dude who was a big fan of ICP back in the day, I genuinely found this to be one of the better apologies for that sorta thing I've read. It made me wanna dig up my old records of theirs.

[@bladestormviking]

say what you want about their music and fans, but these dudes have done a LOT of growing up and they own the dumb shit they did. "fleas, flaws, and all" as my mother used to say. that's admirable.

[@moviestodrinkto6041]

@Broken Faces Targeting kids like how WWF did back in the day? And as for the way they talk, they grew up in Detroit, so if anyone is racist, it's you.

[@willdallas53]

“What the fuck am I doing down there” will go down in history as the best commentary line in the history of pro wrestling.

[@suitedpenguins4640]

That confused sorry by ICP honestly had me laughing.

[@AusMarkus]

It was actually better than if they'd doubled down!

[@tombstonejones9581]

It reminded me of Jay and Silent Bob lol

[@dalime605]

@nemo pouncey that was how i discovered ICP, JCW, and indy wrestling altogether. they weren't the best,

[@Vesperitis]

I love how young Brian's screen is 4:3 and modern Brian is 16:9.

[@danielstaystrong]

Good pick up on that. Didn't notice. Lol

[@MetalGearMk2]

Oh yeah. Attention to detail

[@mrterp04]

Didn’t even notice that at first!

[@celticwarrior8574]

Good eye

[@johnremp3470]

I'm fuckin dead lmao

[@RGT85]

I've always heard that ICP always took care of the boys and everyone got paid really good for doing those shows, especially the Legends. So for that, whether you like the music or not, ICP really respected and loved wrestling.

[@chrisbohn1759]

I know this is a year later, but I know the Thomasellis/ Haters. They said ICP really took care of the boys.

[@pepeshadilay]

What a mark

[@WurdZ_17]

RGT. Wrestling fan, or secret juggalo?

[@MBeats27]

​@@pepeshadilayyour watching a wrestling channel

[@murderpartyyy]

They do! Watch Violent Js interview with Booker T Konan or Kevin Nash, or any interview where wrestlers talk about their time at the gathering

[@CinefreekProductions]

5:22: Shaggy: "What the?! What am I doing down there?!" LMAO! I don't know why but that made me laugh!

[@chrisjamesr77]

Reminds of me some of those Smackdown vs Raw games, where you could have Jerry Lawler in a match, while he's on commentary at the same time, lol

[@Obscusion2]

He inherited Rick Rude's ability to appear in two places at the same time, apparently.

[@StudioThirtyEight]

Brian saying "woop woop everyone " has the same feel as principal Skinner saying "Up yours, children!"

[@dr.snakes]

One thing I'll always remember about Slam TV is Tracy Smothers calling an entire crowd of Juggalos "a bunch of nerds!!". 😂😂 Love that dude. #RIP

[@Supervillain725]

He wasn't wrong.

[@tobysgamingworld1550]

I got to spend a weekend with him once, my friend had a local wrestling promotion and Tracey stayed at our house. He was genuinely the funniest person I’d ever met. He tried to pay for our meals every time and even broke our recliner lol. He was just so funny and hard working. At that point he was selling vitamins and working as a bail bonds guy.

[@billbennett8754]

That "I'm helping" line was hilarious. So short and perfectly delivered. Thanks for the awesome content!!!

[@ballsdeep1698]

I lol'd hard

[@enigmaskull3495]

7:55

[@salvadorthe6ix289]

It was so good 😂😂

[@arturfilipecastanha580]

Some one is a brutal legend fan

[@deadafchannelkden]

The timing, the smile, the generic roadie attire, just perfect!

[@benjaminrosa1418]

Don't know why, but the "I'm helping" cutaway was what made me laugh most on this episode.

[@TFitz1]

It was the look on his face for me 😂

[@Hazemawile]

I agree it did with me as well

[@smcauley600]

same

[@phreakout93]

I saw this comment before hand and still busted out laughing 🤣

[@JERRYTHECOG]

It'll never get old for me 🤣

[@misfit_kev]

If you didn’t pop for "WHAT THE - WHAT AM I DOING DOWN THERE?" then we can’t be friends. Love the content Brian! Thanks for some good stuff to start off my shift tonight ✌🏻

[@UnexpectedDanger]

Yeah I died

[@markl5998]

What do you do for work

[@ZakAttak38]

That guy throwing pants at Tracy Smothers had me laughing really hard.

[@gst013]

Smothers' reaction of "wtf is this?!?" was awesome 😅

[@PrinceWatercressXadara]

I love how the pants land on him right when Brian says "pants."

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Homer Simpson

[@dasdeke]

6:26 I marked out! Loved this one B! It's awesome seeing the ICP showing respect to W3 after he showed them respect.

[@hollywoodhulklogan3318]

J’s “That was extra weak tonight” reaction to the Silencer just about killed me.

[@MarioUcomics]

Always like to see more of Nintendo 64 era Zane

[@gregdeandrea1450]

I'm just happy that I'm not the only one who played Jet Force Gemeni!

[@JUGGALOKEMON]

Thanks for making this bro. You are a juggalo homie in my eyes. WHOOP WHOOP!

[@manmadeaids]

Whoop Whoop

[@cthulhupthagn5771]

One of my favorite ICP stories, from a very long time ago. Maxim magazine went through a period where they would take a famous person, give them a budget of say $1,500, and then have that famous person take them on a tour of their Hometown while they interviewed them. Most famous people would take the interviewer to their favorite restaurant, go to venues, go to places that were significant to them growing up. What did the Clown's do? They put something out on their website letting their fans know the day of the interview. They told fans that they could join in if they paid a small fee and brought materials like canned goods, and blankets, also Faygo because that's their gimmick. Then they rented a bus. While the interview went down, the bus took them to local homeless shelter. They donated all of the materials and money gathered by the fans along with a chunk of what they were using for a budget. They also put on a quick little impromptu concert for the homeless shelter. As for where they went to eat? They went to a local restaurant that they've always loved, a little dive bar. While they were there, the interviewer had noted that there were people at the Dive Bar making fun of ICP and complaining about them. Icp's response? They went up to the bar and paid everybody's tab in the entire place. I could go on and on about stuff they've done that really shows them to be great people. The time when they apologized to Terry Funk and when Terry Funk wouldn't take money from them, they left the money under the salt shaker and snuck out of his house. Or how after September 11th and kids were afraid to go out on Halloween, they did concerts and released a single specifically to try and raise spirits.. or the fact that you used to be able to call into their 1-800 number and listen to a song, and on Mother's Day the two of them did a song talking about how wonderful their mothers were for raising them. Their fanbase may be a mixed bag. And for some people they get misunderstood because they can't tell the difference between a storytelling song gimmick and real life. But to me they'll always be some of the favourite stuff I've ever listened to and I have nothing but the utmost respect for them

[@TheBC313]

I still love The Mom Song to this day.

[@mattjones5531]

This is what endeared ICP to me, considering they are/where dubbed "the most hated band in the world" they've done far more for charity than most mainstream artists and it's not for the publicity either but to give back cause they know what it's like to go through those shitty times.

[@Bandana_Boi]

Beautifully said, friend. Mick Foley has since told the story that upon first meeting the boys, they paid him in cash for the first BloodyMania tape. No questions asked. They do a canned food drive every year at The Gathering.

[@hotboxrox]

Damn man actually getting ICP in the video and them sending you the tapes is so friggin awesome. 2 scoops of whoop for that.

[@FallenStarPunk]

Whoop whoop!

[@JUGGALOKEMON]

WHOOP WHOOP!

[@comixproviderftw_02]

When your idols tell you they’re a fan of you, that’s when you know you’ve made it.

[@chrisjamesr77]

Yeah, really...I thought it was awesome just being friends on FB with a former member of my favorite band lol

[@jr03312010]

"Boys is there anything you want to say?" ".....Sorry?" Shrugs shoulders Hilarious like a parent telling his children to apologize to the kid they just bullied. Also the light thing "I'm helpin" lmao

[@DristXantrum13]

My favorite bury of pondo's move was after it was deemed The Silencer. Gweedo: "1..2..Hell No...nobody gets beat by the The Silencer" 3D: "I f*ckin HATE The Silencer!!!"

[@brianmesaric9350]

In case you're wondering ... I'm the random fan that jumped in the ring in the Las Vegas episode.. and ended up with a 13 year wrestling career including wrestling as a regular for JCW for 5 years.. thank you for doing this review 💓

[@judeelaman1902]

Are you Gary Galaxy?

[@NickC_479]

Listen. As much as people hate to say it, we love the insane clown posse and love hearing stories about them in wrestling. Humble cats the clowns are.

[@timefoambathray9339]

When I was a kid I heard Great Malenko and was like "this is the greatest thing I've ever heard! ICP RULES!" Then I grew up a little and realized ICP is terrible. Then I grew up a little MORE and realized that I was right the first time. Great video!

[@vft5593]

Icp is terrible lol

[@JUGGALOKEMON]

WHOOP WHOOP!

[@JUGGALOKEMON]

@@vft5593 what you know about terrible? You dont know whats terrible

[@vft5593]

@@JUGGALOKEMON it's terrible 😂

[@EroticWhale]

I will give it to ya the first few albums of ICP were pretty good. Last great malenko though…I’m good lol

[@mikeisernie]

"I'm helping".....I almost spit out my coffee. I just want that clip to be available as a gif.

[@evanhanley6437]

Damn this was awesome! Great for ICP to give you the DVDs and be in the video. Loved the flashlight gag. I love ICP. Their music is so cool. The Backyard Wrestling games are so fun to play. Great video Brian!

[@claymathewselevator8121]

I’m Helping

[@Aman--Wangnao77]

'The Flying Fat Guy' had me dying 😂

[@wstine79]

It's our favorite Juggilo, Brian Zane.

[@joshuaperez441]

The whole reading of the "letter" from Great Muta was fuckin hilarious. "Your win-loss record in JCW thus far fuckin sucks"

[@1nONLY_DRock]

And just like that The Meteorite is my new favorite finishing move. That's insane! Thanks for showing this off. This was actually pretty damn good!

[@ItsTheFizz]

"THE SPINNING HORNWHEEL! AND IT LOOKED LIKE SHIT!" still makes me chuckle to this day...

[@tafua_a]

"There goes the lazy man from the bar stool!"

[@theCommenter-gw6so]

When I heard “what am I doing down there?!” I lost it 😂

[@Adamdidit]

Love that. It would've been so easy to just pretend he was going to the ring and then be silent. They said fuck it and just ran with it.

[@ellibod1]

The fact the ICP themselves sent you this is honestly the funniest part, I can't stop laughing at that alone. That and them saying "Sorry?" was fucking awesome

[@jerseyvoid3123]

I met Mickey Knuckles and and Jessie Bell Smoothers after the TNA ECW reunion show they ended up being in the same hotel we were and ran into them in the love after the show. Ended up smoking weed with them, Mickey showed , me her death matches and got Bill Alfonso to come smoke weed with us. I had a roommate that was a Juggalo and walked by his room seeing him watching JCW and Mickey was wrestling. She was awesome and ended up watching all those JCW shows.

[@Lobobandido]

I used to own those dvds, those shows had me laughing my ass off, if your a wrestling purist this ain’t for you, but if you wanna lose yourself with entertaining shit then this is for you. I never thought I see the day someone talked about this.

[@barrywallace2744]

It certainly was leave your brain at the door and grab the popcorn tv. I do mean that in a good way.

[@KMmouse20]

I never rated them musically but have nothing but respect for the love they have for the graps and what they brought to the table.

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

If you survived that 70's guy aka Mike Awesome the awesome bomb off of a school bus I automatically rank them higher

[@butcherben82]

Magnets! How do they work?

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

@@butcherben82 I still don't know and I took physics

[@doomsdan101ortiz4]

Holy shit, 3D and Gweedo are the best 2 man commentary team in the business.

[@TheNaturalPatHarris]

They need to Remaster Jet Force Gemini

[@MetalJT24]

Agreed It is playable on Xbox one via the Rare Replay collection.

[@freeparking301]

I’m not too familiar with ICP’s music, but I will always give them props when it comes down to their business sense. They were smart enough to come up with a gimmick that can cross over in different platforms and is marketable. When they want to make music they start their own label. When they want to play a festival they create their own. When they get the urge to ummmm…act I guess? They go out and make movies. When the opportunity came to be in wrestling they eventually started their own fed. They don’t want others to stifle their vision or have middlemen in the way of things they can handle themselves. And you know they aren’t going to do it half-assed either. They know who their fan base is and they give them what they want while creating an environment for them to be themselves. They give other musicians opportunities by signing them to their label and they give the Wrestlers they admire a chance to get a decent paycheck. And it seems they can do all that without getting caught up in all the negativity that ruins a lot of our favorite musicians/celebrities. From what I seen and heard it’s one of the few times you don’t regret meeting your heroes and I respect that along with the business acumen. You get the feeling they’re fans just like you and that’s the reason they make the music they make and book the wrestling they want to book because it’s what they would want to consume themselves as fans.

[@valeriaibarra4049]

This video lands better when you remember that Nosawa booked Muto's 2021 GHC Heavyweight Championship win in Noah

[@echosidefiend]

That's awesome that ICP reached out to you for the review! J mentioned you and your channel on one of their Patreon live streams and was excited about how you had made a video covering their wrestling career. Can't wait for the BloodyMania review! 🤘

[@michaelnagle5482]

Great Muta must be the coolest dude in history. No business being in a JUGGALO indie promotion, but he agreed to help them out. That's awesome.

[@jackburton2680]

Pretty sure it had more to do with how much money ICP had to throw his way than it did some kindhearted desire to "help" these scumbags

[@markl5998]

Scumbags is a weird way of spelling legends

[@SlaterRecordsTV]

wrestling is wrestling. why care if it's a "JUGGALO indie promotion"?? lol

[@thedoif2540]

My uncle owns the first dvd, so I’ve seen this before, and I always thought he was singing “Jericho”.

[@brad3042]

I had JCW (the Championshit version) on VHS and remember watching it and not getting it. My brother on the other hand was more into ICP.

[@jcace13]

Okay, a flaming fist finisher is pretty damn cool.

[@brianstone3722]

I agree it was pretty dope looking. It was definitely a 🔥 Finisher lol.

[@ColeslawVariant]

I like his entrance music too

[@natesalisbury2196]

you are the first person ever to acknowledge the original JCW (championshit) name. props for that.

[@Chigen_Atomic]

Knowing they requested it themselves, now I want a joint ICP/W3 review. Doesn't even have to be a JCW event. Going by his name and reputation, I'm always impressed with what Necro Butcher pulls off.

[@medes5597]

Necro Butcher is insanely intelligent. Look up some of the videos of him talking out of character. Definitely one of the more interesting figures that gets overlooked.

[@EmmaBonn96]

Whenever I hear about ICP these days I just can’t help but smile. I don’t know if I’ll like their style of wrestling, but they are stand up dudes through and through

[@checky6825]

I need the theme song in my playlist. Also, all the content you put out is friggin great! Thanks for being a Good Brother BZ!

[@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954]

"What am I doing there." -Greatest commentary line ever.

[@joecarroll3371]

Zack Gowen worked as a stuntman in Hatchet 3. Thought I'd throw that out there.

[@maxvekich2094]

The smile you had the whole time was great. Just a guy living his dream by being acknowledged by his favorite artists. That's as humbling as it gets

[@markmyers6756]

If I was calling my younger self I'd say "go outside all the stuff on toonmai will be available at anytime on streaming in less than 20 years".

[@TheKillOG]

Whoop Whoop!!! I've been a Juggalo since 1997. I was at the Allentown PA show

[@iangray1980]

I cannot stand ICP as a band but they're such great dudes. Really good boys. Can't help but love them as people

[@marcohavokkhaos]

Nah, they are assholes. They are just marks.

[@iangray1980]

@@marcohavokkhaos no they're not lol. They do a ton for charity and marginalized people. Child comment

[@thehottag3763]

You miss the perfect cutaway of Homer Simpson yelling “don’t you hate pants?”

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Canyonero

[@lewisaino]

Or Baki Characters

[@alonedownthere47]

i laughed way too hard at the idea that dude was yelling "JELLICLE!"

[@theman4884]

Can I recommend a wrestling movie for you to review? Bad Day To Go Fishing from 2009. It is one of the best wrestling movies I have seen.

[@erpjones537]

You lost him at good.

[@chrisrozens1125]

I love W3. It’s easy to look down on ICP and Juggalos but the respect he has is awesome!!!

[@ChaingunCassidy]

"What am I doing down there?" Got a belly-laugh from me.

[@alfonsoperezthreezerosix]

“What am I doing down there?” I lost it as soon as I heard that 💀

[@VirgilZandig]

Died laughing at the Great Muta voiceover And holy shit at Kamala taking both those moves.

[@anjake01]

Slam TV/JCW introduced me to Tracy Smothers, Trent Acid, and Colt Cabana oddly enough. Officer Colt will forever live in my heart

[@tweetert.9978]

I bet that feels pretty good getting the ICP themselves to request this review.

[@haydenmillholland4496]

Would love to see stranglemania 1 and 2 reviewed

[@EvaFull]

Was wondering when this would show up. Glad to see someone mention where it all started. Stranglefuckingmania

[@fthomason93]

That would be awesome

[@haydenmillholland4496]

@@EvaFull gotta love drunk Terry Flunk and cactus sac and the mushroom boys and can't forget about the big 25.00 battle royal

[@GamersHolyArmy]

The obviously-not-Great Muta saying "[Nozawa's] win-loss record (...) fucking sucks" never fails to get me to giggle like a child.

[@TheTribalgame]

I bought these back in 08. I still have them!

[@mrs6968]

7:56 "I'm helping" rotflmao

[@jeffmoran6774]

The I'm helping bit killed me 🤣🤣

[@marioamador1600]

WOW I have been waiting for someone to cover Slam TV for years and lo' and behold, it finally happened lol. Awesome.

[@slanderman3296]

"So hard we showed it 3x" Hahhahahahahahhaahhahahahahhahahha Jcw commentary would prob have me lauging the whole time. Like Lawler used to do.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

It's good to see the return of "Teenage Fanboy" Brian Zane.

[@lewisaino]

Now we just need Old Man Zane for the Zane of Multiple Earths.

[@redbigun]

Throwing your pants at someone in anger feels like something out of The Simpsons.

[@Blurrygil]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you even formatted Young Zane in 4:3!! 😆

[@spudmoneybags85]

Great review. I think I’m going to be randomly saying “I’m helping” for the next week or two lol

[@chrisjones3372]

Loved every minute of it and the secondary Slam TV Express. Also Mad Man Pondo's hot tub promo was hilarious. However not sure if it was on Express or 2nd Season

[@rickyjkuron5275]

Rest In Paradise “Holy” Trent Acid

[@DaremoTen]

Best celebrity apology ever.

[@davidtruett3346]

I love the fact you used a different aspect ratio for the intro skit

[@deadpoolnerd]

9:50 I dunno why but I just find it so wholesome commentary putting O'Doyle over calling him handsome.

[@JustJulyo]

This was probably the funniest video of 2022 this far!

[@doctorevil3326]

Remember being at the long beach show..I believe Boondox and some band called Wolfpack performed that night, good times.

[@MetaKnuxXbeats]

Ok, that cameos was funny and awesome 6:20

[@tbonemann]

14:03 "Don't you hate pants?!" - Homer Simpson

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Canyonero

[@bobbysheila]

This is up there with my top favorites for the channel. So excited for next week!!

[@AlexanderKahrs]

"Water under the bridge" That's clearly snow, Brian. Anyway, thanks for this vid!

[@kael2450]

Loved the JFG reference, great game. Also I laughed when someone threw their pants at Smothers, reminded me of that time when Vince got a pair of pants thrown at him.

[@southweststrangla420]

"i dont like the bad language" lmao

[@dstaple3]

"WHAT AM I DOING DOWN THERE?!"

[@zubrhero5270]

9:26 Hawaiian Lion the Podcast Brian. Fucking LOVED this episode! Love all the promotion graveyard and retrospective stuff!

[@StonedMexicanGuy]

I like the jet force Gemini reference .

[@josephmiga]

Lmao the great Muta letter to nozawa

[@TheCheat420]

9:50 I have incorporated "What a handsome man!" Into my vocabulary since this review came out.

[@guillermosierracuellar9812]

Congratulations Zane The ICP noticed you Whoop whoop

[@lewisaino]

Whoop over uwup

[@charlessaints]

2:34 nice. props for THAT alone, despite the awesome video 👍 keep em coming, mr zane

[@PrinXessDime]

I been waiting for some JCW to come up here!

[@dannyhipolito817]

Nosawa in juggalo paint reading The Great Muta’s note that says “your win-loss record fucking sucks” made me chuckle

[@mrwarped]

Jet Force Gemini, now that's a blast from the past!

[@ThaShowStopper]

Dick Kick City, The Kid Gets Busy! I say this literally every video with the intro theme song in it, but it's so dope! Lol I love when you cover the more obscure shows/PPVS/Promotions! Keep it up My G, Brain!

[@mikethegrunty5968]

I laughed way too hard at ICP’s cameo😂