Jim Brown - The Race-Baiting Athlete/Activist Who Liked To Beat Black Women - The Irony!

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Jim Brown was a legendary fullback for the Cleveland Browns. When he died on May 18th, 2023 he left family, friends and fans behind to mourn and celebrate his NFL and acting careers and his civil rights activism. Those things were his legacy. But so is this - a long list of accusations of abuse of women that dates back to the 1960s. Spoiler alert - he never gets found guilty. It's another Hot Mess History scandal from Ti. Enjoy!

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@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
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@s0g1am0rous
@s0g1am0rous Жыл бұрын
I watched a documentary on the Playboy empire and it mentioned Jim Brown and how he mauled a woman. He was just awful.
@powerbadpowerbad
@powerbadpowerbad Жыл бұрын
A lot of black men from the 1900s till the 60s were beating their wives/girlfriends constantly.I think the dis-respect they got from white men,they took it out on black women.
@sexychocolateable
@sexychocolateable Жыл бұрын
Yes I saw the same documentary. Him and Bill Cosby were a**holes
@TransmutedLiving
@TransmutedLiving Жыл бұрын
Yep that's where I first saw it
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
He really was terrible. That documentary exposed a lot of those men.
@riley3543
@riley3543 5 ай бұрын
A lot of these men hate women and are secretly g-a-y....no offense but its true
@kekeboo2375
@kekeboo2375 Жыл бұрын
He was engaged to one of my mothers childhood friends. She was in hs when he met her in Mexico on a family vacation and her parents allowed her to date him, mind you he was already playing professionally. I met him at a celebrity gulf tournament and my mom called me and I shared who I met. When I mentioned him it triggered her because of what her friend went through. She asked if he was inappropriate with me(mind you this was 7 years ago). He was so abusive to her friend and did horrific things to her. Jet did a spread on them back then. Her family helped her leave after the embarrassment she went underground and not much was on her online. She went on to have a fulfilling life as a mother, wife, lawyer and had transitioned years ago.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to know that she lived a great life.
@LydiLa222
@LydiLa222 Ай бұрын
Your mother's friend is Debra Clark?
@kekeboo2375
@kekeboo2375 Ай бұрын
@@LydiLa222 No Diane Stanley. Google Jet Magazine Feb 17, 1974 and they are on the cover. You can obviously see she was just a baby😔. After the things that were shared and what's going on in todays world reminds me alot of the Cassie situation.
@kekeboo2375
@kekeboo2375 Ай бұрын
@@LydiLa222 no it was Diane Stanley who is on the 1974 Jet Valentine magazine cover with him. When you google you will see how young she is was.
@mjt0194
@mjt0194 Жыл бұрын
I think there's a story about every celebrity that visits the playboy mansion
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
You're probably right. There are several.
@sexymama1966
@sexymama1966 Жыл бұрын
Yes, a mini series on hoo-luu
@ronpl8473
@ronpl8473 Жыл бұрын
The playboy mansion was full of h*es and you know h*es are scandalous.
@joy2theworld488
@joy2theworld488 Жыл бұрын
🤔
@elainelane1119
@elainelane1119 Жыл бұрын
@@TisHotMessHistory Hi,why wasn't Hugh Hefner arrested for underage girls being molested. THEY SURE WENT AFTER BILL COSBY.
@epluribusmasseyjr
@epluribusmasseyjr Жыл бұрын
Young lady I am 60 and most of your info seems to be in line with how it really was in that era. I have aunts that experienced the same, but athletes
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry that your aunts had to experience such pain. Thank you for watching, EPluribus.
@charliesweat4361
@charliesweat4361 Жыл бұрын
@@TisHotMessHistory How was the Great Jim Brown a race baiter!! Abuse??? Yeah!! But not a race baiter or Coward!! He'd do the same thing to a man!!! In that era!! Those men had no coincidence about beating a Woman!!!
@kiranholt3296
@kiranholt3296 Жыл бұрын
It may have been the era, but it was demonic, violent and criminal. There were plenty of men when did not behave that way.
@toddmoney8921
@toddmoney8921 Жыл бұрын
@@charliesweat4361Things haven’t changed. Athletes - White and Black - who show promise are coddled and protected from high school forward right on through to the NFL/NBA/MLB. You almost can’t blame the athletes because they’re never taught that actions have consequences. Almost….
@LaunchPadMcQuack4Hire
@LaunchPadMcQuack4Hire Жыл бұрын
​@@charliesweat4361so it looks like you didn't listen to what she said. She clearly explained what he did in terms of race baiting.
@Thesekidstookmychannel
@Thesekidstookmychannel Жыл бұрын
It all makes sense now. My daddy (not a football man) hated him and OJ with a passion!! He said they were brutes and were gorillas (how violent they are)
@RedeemedbyYAHUSHA
@RedeemedbyYAHUSHA Жыл бұрын
Your dad very honorable
@joeyjo-joshabadu9636
@joeyjo-joshabadu9636 Жыл бұрын
Gorillas are mostly gentle creatures. If you want to compare him to an ape(which you probably shouldn't for obvious reasons) compare him to a chimpanzee
@gedenironald8635
@gedenironald8635 Жыл бұрын
That sound like your children and your father. White peoples are not wrong for calling you those names. Next time a white person likens you to an animal, yo I must know he is correct.
@misterkgb1
@misterkgb1 Жыл бұрын
They lived up to the King Kong stereotype.
@luvellecummingsiii9438
@luvellecummingsiii9438 Ай бұрын
I believed that. These althletes and entertainers should not be exalted
@chrisholzhauer3698
@chrisholzhauer3698 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame how little powerful men are held accountable for their crimes. Thanks for setting the record straight, despite the backlash you've received for this. The research speaks for itself!
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
I agree. It's powerful, rich men who are not held accountable. Not black men. The way that people are making this a "black man" thing is annoying. Thank you for watching!
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Part 2 premieres at 4:00 pm CST (in a few minutes) in case you want to watch it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGPbg5qharKkibs
@MrSQUAD-qk9yo
@MrSQUAD-qk9yo 28 күн бұрын
@@TisHotMessHistoryyou not black so that’s why you say that. It’s easy for everybody to down talk on blacks.
@auntieeva4098
@auntieeva4098 Жыл бұрын
I can recall Jim Brown being accused of beating and assaulting an up and coming actress Brenda Sykes back in the day.
@gwendolynmurray8201
@gwendolynmurray8201 Жыл бұрын
Me too! I would hear stories about how he beat Brenda Sykes and I heard about a woman he threw off a balcony. Usually men like this are into other men and make the woman responsible for their dumb azzes being confused about their sexuality and won't admit to it! Say I'm wrong but I'm not!
@reneedennis2011
@reneedennis2011 Жыл бұрын
She was in Mandingo.
@MrSQUAD-qk9yo
@MrSQUAD-qk9yo 28 күн бұрын
Recall how foul you are and all types of f’d up sh!t you done.
@MrSQUAD-qk9yo
@MrSQUAD-qk9yo 28 күн бұрын
You will always be a worthless slave. Point blank your mind is always gonna keep you there.
@THECABSOURHERE
@THECABSOURHERE Жыл бұрын
How he beat all these cases and was guilty, we gotta protect all women, sheesh
@ThePhoenix3712
@ThePhoenix3712 Жыл бұрын
He's apart the masonic brotherhood, that's how but he's not alluding judgement before Yeshua's throne
@BrownSugarBaby1992
@BrownSugarBaby1992 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePhoenix3712facts! Judgement day is the guilty verdict..
@ronpl8473
@ronpl8473 Жыл бұрын
@@BrownSugarBaby1992 You do realize people have been waiting the Judgement day for 2 000 years, right?
@MrSQUAD-qk9yo
@MrSQUAD-qk9yo 28 күн бұрын
He is not guilty.
@THECABSOURHERE
@THECABSOURHERE 28 күн бұрын
@@MrSQUAD-qk9yo u a lie
@crencottrell7849
@crencottrell7849 Жыл бұрын
Between this channel and Cynthia G's channel, hearing about *other* Black men's behavior is exhausting and embarrassing 😅😆🤣
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Other... Thank you for knowing the difference. Hey Cren!
@career5690
@career5690 Жыл бұрын
It is
@imo.124
@imo.124 Жыл бұрын
Scary and violent!!!
@Kadafitheprince2379
@Kadafitheprince2379 Жыл бұрын
Demonizing black men is big $$$$ and black woman are cashing in! You ain’t know
@ronpl8473
@ronpl8473 Жыл бұрын
How do you know they're telling the truth?
@jpmackey1607
@jpmackey1607 Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute: if Brenda was 18 when Jim attacked her, how old was she when he met her?! 😳
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Not sure, but....one of the articles that I came across in my research said that a 16 year old girl introduced him to her.
@aaliyahImpersonator
@aaliyahImpersonator Жыл бұрын
​@@TisHotMessHistory So R. Kelly's teacher huh damn 😮
@nenep1872
@nenep1872 Жыл бұрын
​@@aaliyahImpersonator Soo many men in the industry do this heck even ones not in the industry do it as well
@ronpl8473
@ronpl8473 Жыл бұрын
18. When he first met her, they probably smashed the same night. Chicks in Hollywood are easy.
@brownbagz
@brownbagz Жыл бұрын
​@@nenep1872 I was just getting ready to say that! Damn shame HISTORIC just keeps repeating itself! Men and some women just don't learn!
@shaleenaabron2520
@shaleenaabron2520 Жыл бұрын
Jim didn’t just beat women, he absolutely brutalized them. In a lot of memorizing posts on socials upon his passing there were so many people who had an aunt or cousin he dated that he physically abused. He just hated women.
@jenniferfields1084
@jenniferfields1084 Жыл бұрын
HOT GIRTS AND SUGAR WOULD HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR HIM
@brownbagz
@brownbagz Жыл бұрын
​@@jenniferfields1084 Yup! Remember Al Greene!
@lonnjones6368
@lonnjones6368 Жыл бұрын
always a hater around the corner
@lonnjones6368
@lonnjones6368 Жыл бұрын
Trump has done much worse
@davidgerald133
@davidgerald133 Жыл бұрын
I watched the Playboy documentary...Jim was swining them by the ankles until the clothes came off"
@denisesellersking3791
@denisesellersking3791 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately my family knew Jim Brown very well. His first wife Sue was my medical terminology teacher in high school. Jim Brown beat his first wife as well. Jim and my father were best friends. Jim is also my half brother God father. His bad behavior was all over Cleveland Ohio in the early sixties.
@ronpl8473
@ronpl8473 Жыл бұрын
That was a long time ago. Move on!
@denisesellersking3791
@denisesellersking3791 Жыл бұрын
@@ronpl8473 well some of these people are still dealing with the trauma. If you haven’t been through it don’t tell anyone to move on!
@joy2theworld488
@joy2theworld488 Жыл бұрын
Omg
@charmedlife6378
@charmedlife6378 Жыл бұрын
Yes, my mom grew up in Cleveland and she told stories about abusive behavior. Happened to a high school friend of her's
@LooseBooty-ik5cs
@LooseBooty-ik5cs 5 ай бұрын
​@@denisesellersking3791Let it happen to his mama, sister, or Aunt...and see if that fool moves on, also...
@kimt4565
@kimt4565 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for making this video about this brutally sick man who for years was up held in the Black Community as some kinda hero and civil rights leader, movie star 🤮. He was a monster. For decades some folks in the community wanted to act like his athletic talent , acting and the fact that he talked about civil rights erased the burtal, abusive way he treated women. It's so sick. I see from the video that he has a long history of getting the women that he beats to change their story. I think it was in the 90's he beat his then wife and it was all over the news. Then about a week later he called a press conference outside his home with his wife standing next to him and she told the reporters that it was all lies. That she never said that Jim had hit her, someone was trying to smear his name. She said he would never hit her, that he was so kind, gentle and sweet. I would have given her an Oscar for best actress, but she actually looked scared when she was saying that crap. He definitely was a sick individual.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for watching this video, Kim T. I'm going to come back with Part 2. But since I'm working on his sexual abuse allegations for Patreon, I had to take a break and work on Titanic content for KZbin. This guy was dark and demonic. The whole story deserves to be heard.
@kimt4565
@kimt4565 Жыл бұрын
@@TisHotMessHistory I'm looking forward to part two. I love your channel, awesome content. Keep up the good work 👍
@tonylani2015
@tonylani2015 Жыл бұрын
Ti, this is such a great segment! I had no idea about these additional facts regarding Jim Brown. As always, keep up the amazing work. 🥰
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Tony!
@superdavelane4
@superdavelane4 Жыл бұрын
Watching Jim in real time, describe giving Hefner an award for whoring out black women was mad disturbing.
@zebibtekle4889
@zebibtekle4889 Жыл бұрын
There's a mini-series documentary on Hugh Hefner and the Playboy mansion and the depraved men that went there. It's horrific.
@djstorm40
@djstorm40 Жыл бұрын
@@zebibtekle4889 where can it be found?
@luvellecummingsiii9438
@luvellecummingsiii9438 Ай бұрын
He ruined that woman's modeling career for no reason.
@brownbagz
@brownbagz Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is this is still going on today! Men can have their preference but they forget they get old too! Hanging b&lls, skin, gray hair, etc. Some men feel as if because a woman is seasoned, she needs to be put out to pasture! I never respected him because his off field exploits overshadowed what he tried to do good for the community!
@sarahthomas2506
@sarahthomas2506 Жыл бұрын
My father has told me stories on Jim Brown a few years ago! My father inlaw said he was brutal to women back then!! A lot of actors and athletes abused women a lot back then! I'm not surprised at all! 😮😮😮😮😮
@fredkelley
@fredkelley Жыл бұрын
Man he was a looser. Beating women. An ONLY loosers go to the playboy mansion. He had money an still had to pay for it😅
@ronpl8473
@ronpl8473 Жыл бұрын
You pay so they can leave. I don't necessarily want a relationship with every chick I meet.
@IT-qb7dw
@IT-qb7dw Жыл бұрын
Everyone has got to pay
@fredkelley
@fredkelley Жыл бұрын
@@IT-qb7dw not if you cool 😎! Only loosers
@RedeemedbyYAHUSHA
@RedeemedbyYAHUSHA Жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ali beat women as well. Black men have never treated Black women how they want to be treated. Just beat Black women like the police beat them.
@daniellej7914
@daniellej7914 Жыл бұрын
Damn I ain’t know that
@langston122
@langston122 Жыл бұрын
Proof.
@sexychocolateable
@sexychocolateable Жыл бұрын
That's why I refuse to march for BM when they get attacked by police. I only support BW
@nenep1872
@nenep1872 Жыл бұрын
Man so true
@zarario4444
@zarario4444 Жыл бұрын
Black men never treated any race of women well not just BW.
@bohkhuj9247
@bohkhuj9247 Жыл бұрын
Did he say an African American booty of the year award is the reason he gave him a NAACP award ?!? BFFR!
@Michadoo
@Michadoo Жыл бұрын
He spent his entire life shuckin and jivin for the white man. Sad.
@AdultThirdCultureKid1971
@AdultThirdCultureKid1971 Жыл бұрын
Bunny, but it sounded like "booty" to me, too.
@Friday779
@Friday779 Жыл бұрын
Crazy
@Michadoo
@Michadoo Жыл бұрын
Even when I was a kid he gave me the ICK
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
You had good intuition.
@brahmabkitty03
@brahmabkitty03 Жыл бұрын
Oh so Jim Brown who I know from “I’m Gonna Get You Sucka” was a creep? Dang
@nenep1872
@nenep1872 Жыл бұрын
Exactly that's what i know him from too....
@brahmabkitty03
@brahmabkitty03 Жыл бұрын
@@nenep1872 that’s one of my favorite movies
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
@@brahmabkitty03 yes! And I used to laugh so hard at that movie.
@nenep1872
@nenep1872 Жыл бұрын
@@brahmabkitty03 man I grew up with that movie my dad had us watching all the classics lol.... Know every line
@s_h_a_w_n_d_a8903
@s_h_a_w_n_d_a8903 11 ай бұрын
Wow! He was a narcissistic creep! And had a nerve to be an activist? Could’ve been something to hide behind to conceal his real self. So that he could get good attention. Smh. And a damn predator at that.
@ladystarfish531
@ladystarfish531 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for these stories..I'm glad that you have a platform..
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for watching, Lady Starfish!
@feliciajenkins5041
@feliciajenkins5041 Жыл бұрын
There was this 70's blaxplotation movie where he verbally abused this woman and forced her in a shower. He looked like he thoroughly enjoyed it like not much acting on his part.
@ronpl8473
@ronpl8473 Жыл бұрын
It's a movie. If it didn't look real, you would've said he's a bad actor.
@brandyburke5325
@brandyburke5325 Жыл бұрын
Are you referencing the movie “Crack House”? That movie came out mid/late 80s and yeah JB played a pretty ruthless drug kingpin who kidnapped a high school girl, turned her out, and forced her in the shower. Great film but hard to watch at moments.
@davidgerald133
@davidgerald133 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching that Spike Lee doc....I came away thinking...."yep....he tossed that woman off that balcony"...she had a good point, "i was a model...I was beautiful ...why would I jump out a window"...makes sense to me
@sexymama1966
@sexymama1966 Жыл бұрын
I saw the Playboy mansion series and one of the stories was about him and i won't go into details but it was bruuu-TAL!
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Terrible, indeed.
@cadillacdeville5828
@cadillacdeville5828 Жыл бұрын
There will definitely someone is going to sit there and say" He''s innocent because he wasn't found guilty". If someone is accused of the same/similar crime numerous times. It's really only one consistent factor and variable.
@thankthelord4536
@thankthelord4536 Жыл бұрын
Joan Crawford was quoted stating that Jim Brown was the most handsome man she's ever seen.
@deonnadyson
@deonnadyson Жыл бұрын
Ohh wow... lol
@stepcollazo8134
@stepcollazo8134 6 ай бұрын
He probably was..back then.
@kellygregg8123
@kellygregg8123 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE your channel!!
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Kelly Gregg!
@BlackberryTitties
@BlackberryTitties Жыл бұрын
Typical!!! 🤷🏽‍♀️ I mean what has changed today? Anyhow!
@THECABSOURHERE
@THECABSOURHERE Жыл бұрын
He was a hot mess
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Yes. And that's putting it nicely. He was worse than that.
@stevenmcgillivray9283
@stevenmcgillivray9283 Жыл бұрын
He was morally depraved.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
He definitely was, Steve.
@gidgethrobowski3860
@gidgethrobowski3860 Жыл бұрын
Race-baiting? Whoever titled this seemingly is out of touch with reality given the fact Jim Brown's activism started in the '60s when racism was at an all-time high.
@mariascott7349
@mariascott7349 Жыл бұрын
Jim had so many issues and he needed therapy.
@Kruella_DeVille
@Kruella_DeVille Жыл бұрын
He struck a white cop and lived to tell about it?? He must have been something serious
@JJW77
@JJW77 Жыл бұрын
Ti you did another outstanding video!
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank you, J W!
@bosshog8277
@bosshog8277 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your story. And all your content. I’m glad you did this. So many people forget what a horrible person he was. The men complaining about it need to stop. Just Because a person is your football hero doesn’t mean they don’t do bad things off the field. There is even more that he did that was disgusting that you didn’t touch on. All the elders in my family spoke about his abusive behavior, it was no secret. And when you carry on like that, that person should not be protected. Our community needs to stop sheltering, taking up for and/or turning a blind eye to people like Jim Brown. Something is wrong with people who want to minimize his behavior and and get mad that it’s put out there. That’s why people like him, R Kelly and many others get away with it and more people get victimized. Shame on anyone that has a problem with you speaking on this. It speaks to their character. If it were their female fam member they suffered at the hands of someone like this I wonder if they’d have the same energy. But sick as they are they probably would still rally for this jerk. You keep doing what you doing. Normal people out here have no empathy or respect for abusers like Jim.
@darnell49
@darnell49 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Great storytelling. Wow, Ti, wonderful as usual 🥰🥰🥰.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Darnell!
@ElliotPlays
@ElliotPlays Жыл бұрын
Great upload and a very informative video. Don't know much about this so was interesting to learn about it from your video! 👍🏻
@nenep1872
@nenep1872 Жыл бұрын
People not understanding your channel honey🤦🏾‍♀️ and always making excuses for these men behavior.... All the good things committing adultery and beating women tells me all i need to know, you cannot expect respect doing those things, your good deeds don't matter at that point🤷🏾‍♀️ sorry.... Your priority is your family period...
@CJ-dg3bm
@CJ-dg3bm 5 ай бұрын
Bunny of the year equals activism? What a clown😂
@MyCraftyStyles
@MyCraftyStyles Жыл бұрын
So much abuse from so many which is so sad ☹. It is such a shame how many people get away with it too. Thanks for sharing your stories Ti 🤗💙
@pamelagordon8072
@pamelagordon8072 Жыл бұрын
Happy Tuesday Ti, Thank you for sharing this video,.
@CJ-dg3bm
@CJ-dg3bm 5 ай бұрын
My question is why would anyone be in his prescence or date him if he had this reputation? Fame and money is not worth this.
@cadillacdeville5828
@cadillacdeville5828 Жыл бұрын
These are the EXACT same MEN that view their daughters being treated SAME WAY very differently and have the expectation of them doing so. They they acted on their daughter dating and being with someone thirty-plus years older
@EnterpriseNCC-1701
@EnterpriseNCC-1701 Жыл бұрын
I know you get scrutinized by some black men and women for these videos, but I like them. I think they're informative and well written. Your voice narration is also compelling. Keep it up! I'm a football/sports fanatic. Now, Jim Brown was before my time, but as a football fan and historian, I admired the man's accomplishments on and off the field. However, I like the way you remind us that Brown was a very flawed individual, and any hero worshipping should be given with caution.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Right. Brown was insanely great on the football field. But he was human and he did some horrific things. That's all. Thank you for appreciating my work. I'm glad to have you as a viewer, James.
@reneedennis2011
@reneedennis2011 Жыл бұрын
True.
@donphilp7511
@donphilp7511 Жыл бұрын
Dear ty. I have watched your channel for a long time and and I love it and I have given you many compliments and I still do think you're the best. Your delivery on should I say tough subjects has been truthful And at the same time not deliberating salacious. I love it. I am seventy three years old. These things about jim brown I did not know about. I saw him once as a kid on a snowy t v screen because we could pick up the signal from buffalo new york w b e n t v. I can remember distinctly watching. And from then on I pretended I was jim brown when playing football from when I was a little kid to when I grew older. I was as tough and unyielding as he was or as I thought he was. But I never abused anybody in my life. To find out this may be true it's a little disconcerting. Some of your stories are hilarious unbelievable sometimes in the fact that real actual people did stupid things And sometimes a little dangerous like when somebody ends up with A scar on his face. Or worse or jail time. I could say that I knew some people in sports who had what I thought was a switch in their head and that they could be great in a violent sport. Beyond all expectations but then shut that switch off in real life. Perhaps in real life he could not shut that switch off. To most of us he was not just a man he was a man among men. Perhaps we expect too much of our heroes. And perhaps we excuse too much in our heroes. And perhaps if we knew the real lives of all our heroes we would have no heroes. I hope you understand what i'm saying. As usual a beautiful and tasteful delivery of a controversial and touchy subject. Thank you
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Don! I understand what you're saying. The bottom line is...we shouldn't put anyone on a pedestal.
@donphilp7511
@donphilp7511 Жыл бұрын
@@TisHotMessHistory Thanks ti. You said it. It's just that a kid needs heroes when he's growing up. Unfortunately I've lived long enough That my heroes are dying and i'm finding out that their feet were really made of clay. I'm glad to say that he was my hero when I was growing up and he also did many good Things during his life. He backed Ali, He did a lot for civil rights, He stepped in between the bloods and the cryps. However the other stuff he did was inexcusable. And some was horrifying. So no pedestal. But I will remember him. Thanks ti
@freedommgtow4996
@freedommgtow4996 Жыл бұрын
Wow' if only Instagram/Twitter/Facebook and people with camera phones was around then... This is so good research 👏
@t.nelson9345
@t.nelson9345 Жыл бұрын
Damn! He a stratoliner being a serial rapist. But I find Marvin Gaye story most shocking.
@stepcollazo8134
@stepcollazo8134 6 ай бұрын
I feel like meagan good be defending these predators ...smh
@artemisnectar7
@artemisnectar7 Жыл бұрын
#Ti😂😂 and I remember my Mumz & aunt talking bout his centerfold 😔 an itty bitty tallywacker😝 the staple was bigger..
@seagreen2034
@seagreen2034 Жыл бұрын
Not the staple was bigger 🤣🤣
@artemisnectar7
@artemisnectar7 Жыл бұрын
@@seagreen2034 🤸🏽‍♀️😝 hey seagreen💚💚
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Oh Lordy. LOL!
@nenep1872
@nenep1872 Жыл бұрын
😲😲😂😂🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ well thats why he was an adulterer and beating up on women, tryna prove his manhood
@artemisnectar7
@artemisnectar7 Жыл бұрын
@@TisHotMessHistory 😝🥳🥰 #Ti peace & Blessings
@overit7918
@overit7918 Жыл бұрын
Agents of chaos prevailed in those times of unawareness, in the age of pieces, but now we're Aquarius!😂
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
True.
@ronpl8473
@ronpl8473 Жыл бұрын
My sign is Aquarius. What is this Aquarius thing?
@overit7918
@overit7918 Жыл бұрын
@@ronpl8473 You may have heard of * the age of aquarius*. This is a phrase that correlates with a *new age*. **new ages last 2,150 years. If you learn how old the bible is (2.150 years) you can use that as a template to understand a graduation in and out of *ages. The previous 2,150 years was guided under the energy of Pisces. When you understand astrology more you can predict and understand the nature of the *collective energIES, propensitIES, and lessons, FOr A better understanding. These understandings default our individual decisions we make, and those decisions spill over into the collective... So learn the high low and neutral vibes of aquarius, and be honest with yourself, and this will enable you to understand the age we are embarking on. You can google the various ages.. it's similar to Asian year, the info is there. And astrology is in the bible. I'm glad you asked.. I'm a bit sleepy, but always happy to share ;) I also read that withing each **age, there are 4 astrological successions that are sparked by collective events that happen in society. Always remember that it's about choices, and when we choose to be asleep and mundane, it's like we are giving our power away, and that leaves us open to attacks... So that we now have to take the crumbs from the table, or pout screem and cry for our meals... that's not natural.. that's not what god had planned for us... but we have choice via wisdom and connection. We must speak in elevation when we speak, or dont speak.. we are leaving ourselves wide open to need to be governed. If you understand the laws you can be the energy that prevents those events that spark lower vibrational successions. P.s. those successions can be other signs.. so you will be in the age of aqua for 1 quarter of that age, butvthe underlying energy created by way of what the collective allowed may be in, say leo.. GN;)
@larkt6693
@larkt6693 Жыл бұрын
🌞🌞🌞🌞Let the sun shine in 🌞 🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞
@ronpl8473
@ronpl8473 Жыл бұрын
@@overit7918 Oh! I see. Thank you.
@jenniferray509
@jenniferray509 Жыл бұрын
Wow the story of him throwing a woman off the balcony in la sounds like the story my geandma told me about in Cleveland.
@sonyasees1022
@sonyasees1022 Жыл бұрын
Wow, he was a very handsome, brutal DEMON!
@freedommgtow4996
@freedommgtow4996 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait until part 2.
@BeautyBootyAndBrains
@BeautyBootyAndBrains 9 ай бұрын
My Aunt who lived in S.F back in the 60’s, use to go to LA parties and she always said Jim Brown was an evil man. He believed that no woman could say no to him.
@blondie7389
@blondie7389 Жыл бұрын
I read a few things after his passing that wasn’t good from his past, the incident with the girl in his apartment had me confused, first she said she fell on her own, then years later said he did it when they tracked her down 😢but at the of the day it just that everyone has a past😢 regardless he was an amazing nfl player, social activist intelligent loving caring man in the end 💪🏾 may he rip🕊️💙🙏🏽
@lavonsiasmith5767
@lavonsiasmith5767 Жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me?? 😳 You're right. Everyone has a past...but this was not Jim Brown's past, because he beat women until he could no longer physically do so. He was never repentant about beating women. So, if Jim Brown physically assaulted someone you loved...a woman in your family...would you still feel like he's so great? I hope he repented before he died. However, I will not uphold him as a great person. You're not great, at all, if you cannot control yourself. Period.
@rebels42wynn83
@rebels42wynn83 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ti, Happy Tuesday 😎❤️
@luvellecummingsiii9438
@luvellecummingsiii9438 Ай бұрын
This channel is fire 🔥🔥🔥. Respect
@ThatEducatorChick
@ThatEducatorChick Жыл бұрын
If anyone listening to this identifies with Jim Brown, they should get therapy immediately.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Immediately!!!!
@ThePhoenix3712
@ThePhoenix3712 Жыл бұрын
I don't see mixed women as African American women unless their moms is one of us cause girls female lines are the mothers
@NathanBrooken
@NathanBrooken Жыл бұрын
Jim Brown was no hero.
@YTC1234
@YTC1234 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel and content, Ti but where’s that calming music you used to play
@addingupto1002
@addingupto1002 Жыл бұрын
I can't for part 2 on this topic.
@cadillacdeville5828
@cadillacdeville5828 Жыл бұрын
KZbin did NOT give me this notification!
@kristinmolina508
@kristinmolina508 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate the honesty of Spike Lee.
@Eyesis_1
@Eyesis_1 Жыл бұрын
Damn, shame. ⚖️
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
SERIOUSLY, EyeSis!
@Olubumni
@Olubumni Жыл бұрын
I never new this. Thank you for this story. What an awful man.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for watching. Yes. Quite terrible.
@diamondpearlgem7589
@diamondpearlgem7589 Жыл бұрын
Ti, outstanding.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank you, DiamondPearl Gem!
@pagandeva2000
@pagandeva2000 Жыл бұрын
Where is the background music??
@sabrinaedde4024
@sabrinaedde4024 Жыл бұрын
God cam use bad people for good for sure but this is why we shouldn't idolize athletes and celebrities.
@reneedennis2011
@reneedennis2011 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@CECE1839
@CECE1839 Жыл бұрын
Great Tenancy (videos) to disclose True based on the facts, about these Abusive cowards. Unfortunately, many were Not held accountable for their Violence against Women …
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
You are right. Not many have been held accountable. Thank you for watching. Part 2 premieres at 4:00 pm CST (in a few minutes) in case you want to watch it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGPbg5qharKkibs
@JJJBRICE
@JJJBRICE Жыл бұрын
Jim Brown had half of the Cleveland police force surrouding him as he left the field in the 1964 NFL Championship game !
@Ramona1164
@Ramona1164 Жыл бұрын
Hi there...I'm older than you I'm almost certain and didn't know any of this or either blocked it because I didn't want to. That's unfortunately what we do when we don't want to hear something so horrific about someone we were a Fan of. God Bless you for digging in the mess! He had a troubled soul that's for sure.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
I know for sure that I have blocked things out of my mind that I'd rather not know. Thank you so much for watching! Part 2 premieres at 4:00 pm CST (in a few minutes) in case you want to watch it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGPbg5qharKkibs
@stepcollazo8134
@stepcollazo8134 6 ай бұрын
Its crazy how they let these celebrities. men get away wth battery assult and rape..and no1 says anything hes disgusting..so sad
@Dundatta258
@Dundatta258 Жыл бұрын
So are you going to do a story about pleasure island and the other atrocities that deals with grown men dressed up as women messing with little kids? Love your channel
@georgee3049
@georgee3049 Жыл бұрын
When is part 2 coming out?
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Part 2 premieres at 4:00 pm CST (in a few minutes) in case you want to watch it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGPbg5qharKkibs
@keenenhoward4854
@keenenhoward4854 Жыл бұрын
Damn 😂😂😂
@alexayuso3563
@alexayuso3563 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you can do a study on Emmit Till’s father. He and a friend raped and beat their way across Italy. I know war can drive a man insane but he was that way before going to Italy.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
Hi Alex! I have already made a video about that. It's here on my channel.
@Beautyroom300
@Beautyroom300 Жыл бұрын
Black men beat everybody but the White man🙄
@lynnieadams3070
@lynnieadams3070 Жыл бұрын
🤡
@thegworlsarefighting
@thegworlsarefighting Жыл бұрын
Dam
@RobertPorter-xy7ml
@RobertPorter-xy7ml Жыл бұрын
Correct
@justcallmebrian793
@justcallmebrian793 7 ай бұрын
Nope OJ.
@Biggdoom344
@Biggdoom344 Жыл бұрын
Brown was a love child that never really interacted with his father. His grandmother raised him until he was almost 9. He was basically abandoned as a child by both his parents and carried those scars. He then got hit with brutal racism being the only black football player at Syracuse. He became a very angry, bitter and somewhat crazy man. He hit a police officer as mentioned here and in his book he got mouthy with a police officer in 1950s Alabama during a stop for speeding. Not exactly wise. Luckily one of the officers knew who he was and figured the publicity from beating his ass wasn’t worth the trouble. I think he also had CTE. Great athlete..great activist…dangerous guy to date.
@msmewiththat7532
@msmewiththat7532 Жыл бұрын
The scene Brown did with Raquel Welch in 100 Rifles always made me uncomfortable; about as uncomfortable as she hid having to film it. Considering the famous has inside details on one another, I wonder what story she had about him if any at all. As far as Brown throwing Bon-Chin from the balcony, I vividly recall reading he did the same thing with another girlfriend or wife during either late 80s-mid 90s. I don't think she pressed charges despite the authorities coming to investigate.
@arseniojenkins43
@arseniojenkins43 Жыл бұрын
Herd these stories years ago then as of now very difficult to take in.....however very true...sad.
@winstoncarter8009
@winstoncarter8009 Жыл бұрын
I want to know if Malcolm X & Sam Cooke knew that Jim Brown beat women I'm curious about that because he was good friends with them if they would have known he was doing that, I'm quite sure they would've got on his but if any of this is true.
@rodb66
@rodb66 Жыл бұрын
What movie was Spike Lee making concerning Jim Brown Ti?
@devanshepard9118
@devanshepard9118 Жыл бұрын
its a documentary it came out in 2001
@rodb66
@rodb66 Жыл бұрын
@@devanshepard9118 Okay, thanks.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
@@rodb66 I said the name of it in the video. Jim Brown: All American
@rodb66
@rodb66 Жыл бұрын
@@TisHotMessHistory I missed that part. Thanks.
@allensacharov5424
@allensacharov5424 Жыл бұрын
so my question is this = when these women went with Jim Brown, did they think they would spend their time with him discussing algebra???
@UNKNOPUNK
@UNKNOPUNK Жыл бұрын
Jim like em tight, damn right
@dominicakenu4450
@dominicakenu4450 Жыл бұрын
Did anyone who commented read his book???
@nenep1872
@nenep1872 Жыл бұрын
Would definitely like to read this, didnt know he wrote a book
@siriusjones956
@siriusjones956 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I had no idea he was such trash. All I recall was about a few stints in prison. I never knew it was so much.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
He was the pits! Thank you for watching. Part 2 premieres at 4:00 pm CST (in a few minutes) in case you want to watch it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGPbg5qharKkibs
@paulomilan515
@paulomilan515 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping his dentures were not going to fall out of his mouth while he was talking.
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
LOL!!!!!! Part 2 premieres at 4:00 pm CST (in a few minutes) in case you want to watch it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGPbg5qharKkibs
@joy2theworld488
@joy2theworld488 Жыл бұрын
Beat Black Woman??? Ahhh man Damn😒
@ndorsey1969able
@ndorsey1969able Жыл бұрын
MY GOODNESS DIDINT KNOW HOW CRUEL HE WAS
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
He was awful. Thank you for watching. Part 2 premieres at 4:00 pm CST (in a few minutes) in case you want to watch it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGPbg5qharKkibs
@LordZedd123
@LordZedd123 Жыл бұрын
He never got found what? Say it again sister!
@TisHotMessHistory
@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын
I'm not your sister. I thank God that this punk ass abuser is dead.
@6time686
@6time686 Жыл бұрын
Trump supporter too...
@kevinlawrence8580
@kevinlawrence8580 Жыл бұрын
Jim Brown was a great athlete. His heart was in the right place and he did some good things for the community. However as a person he is not someone our youth should look up to. His treatment of women was atrocious. Maybe it could be because his Mother abandoned him when he was a youth.
@barnkieth3857
@barnkieth3857 5 ай бұрын
Rock star life. Sex drugs and more sex
@kkw-pal1178
@kkw-pal1178 Жыл бұрын
SMH. Good riddins.
@darrenpicone3214
@darrenpicone3214 Жыл бұрын
I loved his films he's big man like me man 😎
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