Who Taught Bruce Lee - The True Origins of JKD

[@phntmNG5]

He came to San Francisco in 1959, Master Fook Yueng picked him up, took him back to Seattle. Fook Yueng was friends, and a fellow red boat opera performer with Bruce Lee’s father. Bruce lived above Ruby Chows restaurant, Fook taught Bruce Lee aspects of red boat wing chun, mantis, crane, chin-na, and tai chi, among other things related to performing and gung fu. In terms of boxing, he had exposure from Wong Shun Leung, when he came to US, his first student was Jesse Glover, and following students Ed Hart, and James deMile exposes Bruce Lee to boxing as well. Jesse also taught him Judo, as well as Fred Sato. He was doing long and mid range closing in his years in Seattle. From 4 to 6 feet away. His brother was a commonwealth fencing champion, at first he could get Bruce Lee, later he couldn’t, but Bruce Lee could close on his brother. But, his primary weapons were a super fast close, pressure sticking, and fast chain punch while moving forward. Aldo Nadi’s book is very good, and definitely an influence. Another book that should be mentioned is “Boxing: a self instruction manual,” which was also a direct influence.....

[@jopalo31675]

Actually Bruce was in a boxing club in High School ( yes, this was in Hong Kong). He was recorded as winning one tournament( don’t know the weight class). He also studied Judo in San Francisco; but he didn’t like grappling.

[@phntmNG5]

jopalo31675 whether he studied judo in San Francisco or not, I can’t speak to. He studied it in Seattle for sure, with his first student, Jesse Glover, who had been a judo player, and sone of Jesse’s teachers. Including Fred Sato. I’m a lot more familiar with the Seattle stuff specific to Jesse, Fook, and so on. Those earlier years, between 1959 through 1964/65.

[@phntmNG5]

@ I appreciate you taking the time to write. So I’ll respond. I’m not a Bruce Lee historian. I met and learned some stuff from Fook, and his longest student, David Harris, as well as from Jesse, and to an extent, Steve Smith. I do my own thing, I don’t bother anyone, or play politics. I know what I was told from them, and what I’ve found out from my own. Also, from what I’ve read from Jesse’s accounts, they differ greatly from what you’re saying. But, in the end, sadly the history is being changed or lost. I’m sure Bruce Lee was a very flawed man, being a human being, like the rest of us. I’m not my place to defend him. I believe in free will, and I have no interest in changing your mind. I think it’s very cool you met Wong Shun Leung and he was a brother to you. I would have loved to meet him. That said, I really dislike online arguments, calling people who are dead and can’t respond names, and will openly say that I disagree with the information you’re suggesting, and simply thank you for taking the time to write.

[@Nicole-m1p4f]

​@@phntmNG5 that's so cool that you trained with Steve Smith, I was really hoping to train with Steve Gray but as you may know he passed away last year. Do you have any way to contact you?

[@Carlparishhonda]

Muhammad Ali was using Sugar Ray Robinson boxing style. I met Ali many times in person in Chicago during the late 1960s when the government took his title away because he would not fight in Vietnam war. Muhammad Ali use to live in Chicago. I’m 70 years old and I still live in Chicago. I have never met Bruce Lee in person, but I met Muhammad Ali in person many times and his hand speed without boxing gloves is fast like Lightning flash.

[@dkyoung9345]

It is well known that Bruce Lee was also influenced and trained in boxing by his good friend Leo Fong, and in grappling by both Gene LeBell and Wally Jay. Look at the grappling in the fight scene at the beginning of Enter the Dragon. He didn’t learn that from a book on boxing.

[@TonyqTNT]

What about the influence of Filipino Kali, Escrima, Arnis and Dumog grappling which Bruce Lee had learned from his friend and training partner Guro Dan Inosanto? Lee also studied wrestling holds and counter grappling techniques with Gene Lebell.

[@williamallen2565]

Not to mention small circle jujitsu with Wally Jay, and who knows who else? Fifty two hand blocks maybe?

[@AsafoUniversity]

@@williamallen2565 52 Handblocks AKA Stato AKA Jail House Rok, was mainly utilized by Black New yorkers at that time on the street and in prison, unless he had ties to that element then probably not.

[@therealTylerDurden]

Guro Dan Inosanto was not Bruce's training partner, he was a student of Bruce and they were close friends. Bruce told Danny to study Filipino arts. Which is why he teaches it as part of JKD in his school. Gene Lebell was a huge influence on Bruce. Which is why grappling is a part of JKD. Bruce had a curious and open mind, he was always experimenting and learning.Thank you for your post Anthony.

[@stevebrindle1724]

I studied Wing Chun in the UK under Sifu Joseph Cheng, this was before Bruce Lee films hit the west and I believe Sifu Cheng was the first Chinese master to teach Wing Chun in the UK. He taught a way of punching I have never seen in Wing Chun teachings on the net. He taught us to use the bottom 3 knuckles with a vertical fist, the difference being the addition of an upward twist at the end of the punch, similar to a Karate punch twist but at 90 degrees to a horizontal Karate fist. The twist was drilled into the punch with repetition of the movement. Try it, trust me it works and adds more power to the punch. Try placing the fist on a training partners chin and just applying the upward twist. I used it once in self-defence and in combination with a tan sau block, caught the guy attacking me on the bottom of the cheekbone. It floored him and his cheekbone immediately swelled up to the size of a chickens egg! We always did knuckle press-ups to strengthen the wrist and encourage a very tight fist, obviously tensing up right at the end of the technique after throwing the punch totally relaxed. TRUST ME IT WORKS! Sifu Cheng was the real thing! I studied WC for 6 years before changing to TKD and practising that for 14 yrs reaching 3rd dan. I stopped WC when Sifu Cheng left the UK. Currently, at 66yrs old i am a Shotokan student.

[@warrenlung4290]

You're absolutely correct about the twist of the wrist right before impact and punching with the last 3 knuckles. That is how the 1 inch punch is done.

[@adnaanu]

Yup . I was taught the same. Also taught to keep a bend in the elbow and wrist, and then straighten, and twist up when you have made contact.

[@tarkajedi3331]

Knowing the roots helps explain the style.... Kind Regards from Australia Hopefully one day my country will allow us to travel again!

[@silasashe4158]

As a student of Paul Vunak for 2 decades, it's very clear where JKD came from and where it was meant to go

[@user-qy1ie4fp8l]

Silas Ash care to share your opinion?

[@theredninja2817]

I love Paul vunak I have some of his tapes you're at home and I've met him in person before he's a great teacher an amazing man

[@wnerko7484]

yeah.paul seems to have taken it in a logical direction with his pfs r.a.t...people in this chat forum are blowing hard on what is what, but its always been anchored in wing chun principles and .not in specific techniques.JKD is a concept.bruce said he shouldnt have named it.i agree.its flat out MARTIAL ARTS

[@MrSilus2000]

Please everybody read Bruce Lee’s article in Black Belt magazine.

[@philosopher0076]

And he actually did totally dump Wing Chun from JKD. He still used WC stuff in films...but insofar as his JKD, he dumped it. Dan Inosanto has stated so many times. Ted Wong has stated that also, to his top student Teri Tom who studied for years under Ted with over 1,000 hours of sparring with Sifu Ted in total. JKD used techniques and methods and principles MAINLY from fencing and western boxing with a tiny bit of savate and muay thai, judo/jiu-jitsu/wrestling etc. methods.

[@jet6268]

Jeet Kune Do is a "Concept" and cannot be standardized. Find your personal Jeet Kune Do, what works for you. And JKD is a process and evolving, today's JKD will never be the same JKD in the future.

[@mangoMango-ck3et]

Well said, Bruce Lee wanted us all to find our own way,,not just imitate him..be simple and direct the way our body moves,,.

[@samuelL.mackin]

Totally agree! Find what works for you & your own personal strengths. Everyone’s style should be custom or unique to themselves. I believe that’s what Bruce was trying to push ppl to do. It’s art, make your own painting

[@VoteforAndrewYang-ei6zn]

Spot on

[@michaelblack5030]

It has a core to build from and then make it your own

[@walterevans2118]

Yes, one must study the sources Bruce studied rather than taking Bruce's word for their validity without doing ones own research....People would frequently criticize Bruce as 'not being the originator' of this material having reproduced passages of it sometimes even word for word changing terms but what these critics miss is that Bruce was BRINGING TOGETHER ALL THE BEST SOURCES and using them to RE THINK LIMITATIONS with regard to what was PRACTICAL..In boxing as well as Driscoll's book he also read Dempsey's and Haislet's boxing.....The thing one also has to remember about Bruce was that he was LARGELY SELF TAUGHT.....Some people tried to say he was over rated not staying the course on Wing Chun for instance but people like Ed Parker said Bruce was a brilliant 'Auto Didactic' who could cut through the impractical to get to the practical very quickly and whose basics never faltered...He studied OLD school boxing for its mechanics and he saw the limits of Wing Chun in close and how with boxing counterattack it could be destroyed by angles and power...He indeed studied Muhammad Ali's technique in a mirror to observe Ali's style in reverse but I believe he did so NOT for practical scientific streetfighting because Ali's style being a SPORT would have been much too UNECONOMICAL in this more dangerous environment....He studied Ali more for the cinematic stuff in Way of the Dragon which he wouldn't have used for street in real altercations......One thing I might argue is that Bruce didn't lose most of the trapping from Wing Chun because he was patching up his own limitations having not finished all the stages of it...Rather Bruce jettisoned this stuff because he was becoming more RADICAL at applying these PRINCIPLES of SIMPLICITY to refine the art to make it more EFFICIENT in dangerous situations...These Principles of Economy originally came from Wing Chun but ironically they were not applying them radically enough (& certainly not as radically as Bruce was applying them)....For evidence of this we need to talk to those who knew Jesse Glover who had listened intently to Bruce's vision of 'fencing with the hands and feet' even if getting exceptional at this is VERY difficult to achieve....You mentioned Ted Wong,,,,Actually it was TED who used the metaphor of Wing Chun being 'the core of an Apple' of the Art....That JKD grew around the core but once the fruit has grown around it we don't eat the core....We jettison it to replace it with simpler ways relating to closing the distance fast on decisive targets by staying DETACHED rather than plugged into the opponent physically....Now,,,what about CATS ? ...Well' cats understand economy of movement better than humans if you watch how they don't trap each others paws before striking...As for cats hating humans,,, welllll,,,,,In my experience with looking after strays where I am in S.E England I've found if humans are mean to them then a Baby Bengal can turn into a Siberian Tiger...But conversely If humans are nice to them they generally can mellow into the PINK PANTHER .....a groovy cat,,,,a gentleman, a scholar & an acrobat.....and its as plain as your nose, (sings)..The-one-an-only-truly ORIGINAL JKD Panther from head to toes .....errrr,,,sorry....lol

[@williamallen2565]

Jesse Glover, Lee's first student, stated that he didn't jump around in a real fight. That was primarily during sparring. In the fights he saw Bruce have, he basically closed ground, or distance, and punched.

bl never sparred with anyone ,.,joe lewis

[@Brother_Dre1900]

A lot of his boxing style, and his punch delivery, was also influenced by Sugar Ray Robinson.

[@dkyoung9345]

Andre Ledoux he learned that through Leo Fong who was trained by Sugar Ray Robinson

[@thomashenderson7481]

Mr. Ledoux? I I commend you on your knowledge of this fact! U save me a little time of this gross oversight about other fighters other than Muhammad Ali influencing Bruce Lee's boxing knowledge! I am not saying there wasn't some acknowledgement of those individuals by Bruce! What I am saying I don't believe the BULK of his boxing knowledge rested with them as some would like to have us believe. Sugar Ray Robinson was the boxer who influenced Muhammad Ali's footwork & and style of boxing! And Bruce Lee learned Muhammad Ali! So all & all , Sugar Ray Robinson was Bruce's Grand-Sifu!!

[@Brother_Dre1900]

@@thomashenderson7481thanks for the kind words. With that said, the fight scene that has a strong Sugar Ray Robinson influence, was Bruce Lee's fight with Chuck Norris in, "Way of The Dragon," aka, "Return of The Dragon."

[@thomashenderson7481]

@@Brother_Dre1900 How right U R Andre!! Even better than my assumption of those fight seens in that 📽️ I was going with Muhammad Ali and his in ring bouts. When people tries to make a theory about subjects that may appear they know what they R saying but, use the wrong people to substantiate their stories, don't seem very knowledgeable in their efforts! Because that person has a more bio- CONNECTED "understanding" with fighters from another time, doesn't mean Bruce required his boxing knowledge from them. Muhammad Ali influence Bruce's boxing knowledge, & Sugar Ray Robinson influenced Muhammad Ali's boxing knowledge! So ,in Theory, Sugar Ray Robinson was Bruce Lee's Gran-Sifu. Because Ali learn from Sugar Ray. To make a claim that Bruce Lee was influenced by Euro- Americans! Look no further than Chuck Norris ( who showed Bruce how to do high kicks) & Gene LaBelle( wrestling legend who help Bruce become a Grappler)

[@Brother_Dre1900]

@@thomashenderson7481 according to Chuck Norris, he and Bruce met in 68'. If you were to look at old footage of Bruce Lee, prior to 68', from old tournament footage: he was displaying high kicks. His use of high kicks are very evident from his days on, "The Green Hornet," which came out in 67." Also, check out the photo demonstrations from his "Bruce Lee's Fighting Methods," books. Those photos were taken prior to 68.' He is demonstrating all types of very high kicks. Again, those photos were taken prior to 68.' (Have we forgot his audition footage-from the mid 60's- where he is displaying high kicks?) My theory is that he acquired those high kicks from Choy Li Fut Kung Fu (a style he gave high praise), and Jhoon Rhee- considered to be the father of American Taekwondo. There are photos of these two together, during the time period in question, training. Furthermore, Jhoon Rhee even stated as much. Now, am I saying that Chuck didn't have an influence? No I'm not. I just believe that at times, his contributions to Bruce's high kicks are overstated. As far as Gene LeBell's influence: that's true.

[@benwilliams1889]

What's the main difference between Ted Wong and Dan Inosanto's approach to JKD? Thanks

[@ThePsychoguy]

As I understand it the 26 arts included ALL influences on JKD no matter how minor. For example most are just different Kung fu systems that influenced his view of Chinese martial arts. When you take those out you’re basically left with boxing, Savate, and Muay Thai for striking, kali and fencing for weapons, and wrestling and Jiujitsu for grappling. Boxing and wing Chun were always the main influences though, like 85-90% or so.

[@scottsummers684]

Bruce Lee even when he was a young boy was already an exceptional person and he learned fast and absorbed as much as he could in a very short period of time. As he grew older and met more and more interesting and exceptional individuals like himself, not only did he befriended them but also he learned ideas and skills from them or whatever talent they had he absorbed and improved and at the same time he was also developing his own style and increasingly innovated whatever knowledge he acquired. Moreover, he combined science and philosophy into his daily regiment of physical fitness and martial arts and lo and behold he became a sensational master of mixed martial artist...!!!

[@lifeishealinghealthwellnes1979]

By far the best information on JKD I have seen online with a simple to understand explanation. Thanks

[@JKDandWingChun]

@@lifeishealinghealthwellnes1979 glad it helped. thanks for watching and for the input too.

[@regcatdog]

not well known , but savate was in there too and not just from a book .

[@thomasthorne4010]

Another great HISTORY lesson on the life of Bruce Lee and the development of his art. This information is priceless !!!!!! Thank you sir

[@JKDandWingChun]

thomas thorne so glad to help! Thanks for watching.

[@jopalo31675]

Bruce was in a boxing club in High school( yes, Hong Kong). He was recorded as winning one tournament. Some of his biggest influences were western boxing and fencing. He also had one leg longer than the other. This gave him and advantage in kicking.

[@LambSauce.]

Wait, Linda Lee herself said Bruce Lee beat Wong in 3 minutes and he in fact did run away but Bruce chased him. So where did you get your info? (Dont mean that to sound rude, just a legitimate question.)

[@88KUNGFUMAN]

I'm thoroughly convinced that Bruce WOULD have learned other arts..even if he DID learn the entire Wing Chun style because he was always looking for more knowledge.

[@walterevans2118]

I think Bruce was after QUALITY of knowledge rather than quantity of it.

[@jacobharris954]

Dan insansto Once I become a black belt in one system, I become a white belt another

[@stephanwatson7902]

I try to explain jkd and mma to people, who must be only half listening when they say "That stuff doesn't work" Using only what works doesn't work guys

[@jpmorgain912]

LOL!!!!!!

[@obamabarack5529]

Steven Watson lol

[@tabbylove744]

Thank you Sifu this is really enlightening---many of us as students are a work in progress...knowing the history behind these amazing ideas adds much to my study and art.

[@JOHNROBERTCRUZ]

Fantastic JKD insights.. Thanks for the links...

[@wlphantom]

Check out Edwin Haislet's boxing manual as well. Large portions are quoted in The Tao of JKD. I got my copy off Amazon.

[@masterbagua]

The best summary of anything I've ever heard about Bruce.

[@keithnmdowling]

As always your insight coherence to both the technical and deeper undersanding is some of the best around. Wonderful tutorials; and on the nail as an emerging descriptive of Jeet Kune Do and indeed its original roots Blessings from Ireland Keith

[@danielrockmyer949]

Thank You Sifu Jason. I've realized these things you spoke about in this vid. But I didn't have all the correct names and books. Thanks Again!

[@dannypuzo7668]

Ankle to shoulder ..open hand until impact..with the torque in your hips..distance matters

[@Solarmass7-7]

Former KD student and reader of all things Bruce Lee and o approve this message

[@moodyprime6818]

great video as always sifu Jason!

[@76kamikazi]

In the fight video of lee with taky kimura you can see the similarity in his stance and foot work to Driscoll.

[@JKDandWingChun]

fernando linton absolutely!

[@memyself4ever1]

@@JKDandWingChun Bruce was also friends with the late Jhoon Rhee a grandmaster in Tae Kwon Do. They use to train together for hours and exchange techniques. One of the things Rhee mentioned was that he showed Bruce some Tae Kwon Do kicks which he said he added to JKD because according to him, Bruce did not have many kicking techniques which was lacking in Wing Chun.

[@thegazzyboomchannel4869]

Wow! This is crazy, only found out a few days ago that I'm related to Jim driscoll! Thanks for the video!!

[@RJO71169]

This was best perspective on Bruce Lee Thank you

[@Rockousley]

Good shit! Eye was always telling people about how Bruce Lee didn't come up with everything out if thin air. He just researched it and put shit together and prospered.

[@pjtheory]

The list of people that Bruce Lee trained with are a who's who of martial arts legends. Aside from several Chi Sao sessions, Bruce did not train with Yip Man. Bruce Lee's main Wing Chun teachers and influences were Wong Shun Leung and Fook Yeung. The first evidence of Lee's genius were his modifications of his beloved Wing Chun which included the inclusion of the backfist. A day after his fight with Wong Jack Man, Oakland student Leo Fong suggested to Bruce that he incorporate Boxing techniques into his art, with an emphasis on hook punches and the use of angular attacks. During this time period, Bruce was also learning joint locks and holds from Small Circle Jujitsu founder Wally Jay, and grappling techniques from Judo expert Hayward Nishioka. In early 1966, the Einstein of Martial Arts then added Fencing techniques to his fighting method, leading to the birth of JKD. This fascinating mixture of Wing Chun/Boxing/Fencing was unlike any Martial Art in 1966, and it remains unique in 2019.

[@thomashenderson7481]

I definitely agree with you R saying, I looked at what brought Bruce Lee to Yip Man & then I see the many other actors who came after Bruce. Like the likes of Samuel Hung, a few others I know by their faces and not their names. Like "Enter the Dragon" there was many, I believe ,real life students of Wong Shun Leung with Samuel being the most recognizable. Look at the IP Man Movies 📽️ base on the life & times of Yip Man! U will see Samuel & those faces I told you about. Bruce's primary instructor, Yip Man is the Sifu Bruce study under.

[@thomashenderson7481]

@Tony Ngo Mr. Ngo,!! This is what make Bruce Lee SUCH A remarkable human being. Before his cinematic appearance , he had this mental ability abdication if you will, recognize his limitations & did something about it. To do that one has be VERY HONEST with ones self without lying to ones self. That's not a easy thing to do. Martial Perception was the advantage Bruce had, few can understand. I no longer wish to fuss with anyone about a legend who had influence many fans around the world. That's because MANY had an influence on him. "Jeet Kune Do is not to hurt, but is one of the Avenues where life reveal it's secrets. Please don't fuss over it" A thought from The Tao of Jeet Kune Do..... Written by Bruce Lee.

[@silverfoxsilverfox6932]

@Tony Ngo Have you got links to joe Joe Lewis and chuck Norris saying Bruce Lee was an actor?

[@FrancisMaxino]

Hold on he later added stronger and high kicking from training with Jhoon Rhee from the TKD camp as well and would 'gate crash' Karate schools according to Lewis.

[@pjtheory]

@@FrancisMaxino One of Bruce Lee's many strengths was his ability to set his massive ego aside and absorb ideas from other martial artists. Examples include learning Red Boat Wing Chun from Fook Yueng; Small Circle Jujitsu from Wally Jay; Judo/grappling techniques from Jesse Glover/Hayward Nishioka/Gene Lebell; Boxing from Leo Fong/Dan Lee/Joe Orbillo; kicking techniques from Jhoon Rhee/Chuck Norris/Louis Delgado; and Fencing from his brother Peter Lee. In terms of gate crashing Karate schools, Bruce only did that in the late 60's, and that only happened a handful of times. In one instance, he went into a karate school with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and another gate crashing event involved Bruce walking into the school run by the now discredited George Dillman. Bruce was borderline friends with Dillman and he asked George if he could spar with some of his senior students. Dillman allowed this to occur, but after Lee was "too rough" in these sparring sessions, George asked Bruce if he would just point spar with his senior students.

[@cmarqz1]

Thank you , your perspective is a discovery.

[@roboct6]

Bruce did not study directly under Ip Man (also known as Yip Man). Bruce was trained by his seniors Wong Shun Leung and Cheung Cheuk Hing (William Cheung).

[@anthonycastaneda7767]

He got a little bit from different style that work for him that’s being creative , like art, but he really taught himself!!

[@markkilburn112]

If you watch Enter the Dragon, Bruce Lee clearly uses double stick techniques that look very much like Kali, Escrima or Arnis.

[@bryansinger8906]

Mark Kilburn he might of started learning the style from Dan Insanto at that time.

[@FrancisMaxino]

He learnt that from Dan Inosanto.

[@JKDVIPER]

Awesome instruction history lesson too🤝

[@kondeladunami7918]

Bruce love Willie pep and jersey Joe Walcott he love there balance and foot steps

[@dariusewing6962]

Right Willie Pep

[@vaibhavpdspune4489]

Whatever it is... Bruce Lee is the Best. That's the only thing i know and i believe.. 😊

[@QuickmixProductions]

This is it!

[@savedantepleasekilldante]

In movies not real life

[@mauricewennbo5407]

You are awesome.

[@yousefahmad538]

Hey Jason I want to ask you about your opinion on the Tao it jeet kune do, is it worth it for me To Read

[@paolosmaldone7852]

100%agree with you!Both Bruce Lee s widow and his daughter said fencing and boxing were the main sources for jkd and he NEVER studied filipino martial arts!And Jack Dempsey in his book recomend to use "last 3 knuckles vertical fist"

[@thomashenderson7481]

Sir? I totally disagree with you about Bruce Lee not learning Filipino martial arts! I explained, the man who some regards as the living father of Jeet Kune Do, Grand-Sifu, Dan Inosanto was one of Bruce's senior students and best friends. Sifu Dan is from the Philippines & is a Filipino martial artist! He & Bruce exchange ideas in martial arts pretty much the way Bruce and Chuck Norris exchange ideas to each other. It was Sifu Dan who taught Bruce how to use Kali sticks & the nuchaunus ( the double stick weapon with the chain in between them) Bruce didn't require the knowledge of using these weapons from Wing Chun ( the chosen weapons of the Kung Fu system is the 6 foot 6-in longstaff & Butterfly knives). Furthermore, those weapons are of Chinese origin and not Filipino. And Bruce CERTAINLY didn't learned how to use those weapons from Jack Dempsey!!! Now if you care to check those facts out , please do so. But, if you do be honest with yourself without lying to yourself. And know the facts as they R SHOWN! 😊 Always 😁 to help!

[@Robinson11]

Guro Inosanto is also the only one of 3 left alive certified full instructor under Si-Gung Lee in Jeet Kune Do. Brandon continued to train with Guro Inosanto until his untimely death as well.

[@Robinson11]

@@thomashenderson7481 very well said. That's facts

[@paolosmaldone7852]

@@thomashenderson7481 With the utmost repect for guru Inosanto;sharing techniques is not the same as studing an art.Bruce shared kicks with John Rhee but was never a tkd student nor consider tkd in his jkd.When Inosanto met Bruce ,he was a kenpo karate b.b.and tournament fighter under Ed Parker(who wrote a nunchaku manual)In the 60 the only weapon inosanto was demostring was a chinese(with chains)nunchaku,that never was a filipino weapon.And,beside the witness of both Bruce `s wife and daughter,in the TAO OF JKD are drawing and citations about savate thai boxing,judo,wrestling and,mostly boxing and fencing;none of kali,arnis or eskrima.Jkd was about less no more:less techs,less arts .and THIS video was about empty hands techniques(the leading strike the main point)no weapons ,chinese,filipino ,japanes or so on.

[@thomashenderson7481]

@@paolosmaldone7852 Paolo! What do U call what Grand Sifu Dan was doing in the movie "Game of Death?" That was eskrima martial arts! & The nunchaku is part of the Kali martial art system. What was that double stick battle Bruce had in" Enter the Dragon?" While Dan may had some of Kenpo martial arts studying, I still believe he shared them with Bruce! Any true JKD student has knowledge of what I call the 12 families that ultimately consist of "Jeet Kune Do" Can U name them?

[@svenkik79]

You can also read Joaquin Marcelo's "Jeet Kune Do the way of simplicity" which also covers Bruce Lee's training source.

[@brucemfvane4148]

According to Linda lee Bruce Lee exhausted his self chasing that guy!!! He was running and Bruce Lee was upset that the fight took too long and he was fatigue that's when he started focusing in on cardiovascular strength. And frankly when it comes to the fight I would believe Linda Lee over anybody!!!! SHE WAS THERE!!! Pregnant with Brandon Lee. And according to Linda he beat that man it was no stalemate. Bruce Lee also said that JKD was not a fighting style. JKD is about bringing out your best inner fighter. That's why they called him the father of MMA

[@AndronikosKoutroumpelis]

Nice points but regarding 10:26 and "no evidence of Bruce studying 26 martial arts". It's an exaggeration to speak about so many, but reading his Tao of JKD, Bruce certainly didn't only study boxing after WC. As with punches, he has named every possible type of kicking, and has provided accurate sketches of both Muai Thai and Savate. He has also provided pages of sketches with wrestling, Judo and Jiu-Jitsu techniques. He doesn't cover their whole curriculum, but it certainly shows that he studied them and kept notes of what he recognized as useful.

[@Chronicskillness]

Bruce Lee didn't write that book. His students wrote that after he passed. His formal training was this: - Wing Chun 1956-1958 he learned Sil Lum Tao and half of Chum Kiu forms of Wing Chun's 6 forms. - Fencing preteen to 14 - Judo Dec 1959-1961 school Jesse Glover went to. - Northern Praying Mantis 2 months 1965 Learned Bong Bo Quan and a section of Tam Tui kicking drill Semi formal - Tae Kwan Do Jhoon Rhee 65-66 - Wu Taiji from his father 13-14 yo but he absolutely hated it - Hung Gar and more Wing Chun from James Yimm Lee 63-65. He learned a few Tiger and Crane techniques and rest of Chum Kiu - Yi Quan from his father's friend as a pre teen. Little bit of fighting philosophy. It's a formless system like JKD - Karate, Tang Soo Do and Kickboxing 1967-1970 under Joe Lewis, Jim Kelly and Chuck Norris. - Kenpo but just a little Ed Parker 1965-67 - Pencak silat Dan Inosanto just a little - Boxing from various 66-69 That's it aside from maybe a move or two from Choi Li Fut and Southern Mantis. He didn't actually study systems aside from Wing Chun, Judo and a little Northern Praying Mantis. I'm giving him that one even though he didn't even spend a whole 2 months at the school. He did have 3 good Mantis books which he read cover to cover and took notes on the applications and made a few adjustments. He knew a few moves so well they ended up in his 1963 Self Defense book. I think his copy of the Mantis book he made notes in sold for $88,000 in auction. But that's really it. What he did know it was obvious. I been doing Northern systems for 19 years and a few Southern for 15. His Tiger Crane section he did on that TV interview along with a piece of Tam Tui and Wu Taiji. There's also a nice picture of him in a Tam Tui transition. And a nice Hung Gar Southern White Crane beak strike. The N Mantis lolol is something that rhymes with blagerism. He copied them frame for frame. But he did study it a little bit two years later. And Mantis people get a kick out of it. Cause he does the technique 4 times in that short book and that Mantis side step drag parry Ping Choi to the ribs is only in N Mantis. His modified Lop Sao grab grab rolling backfist is also straight from Mantis. So JKT, my take on his arsenal? Karate/TSD/TQD point fighting from the 3 point fighters; TKD/TSD from Jhoon, Boxing, Mantis which looks like WC but it's Mantis (I do them both), little Judo and WC's Tan Sao and Bong Sao. It's more than just Boxing and WC. Because his closing the gap skip in side and diet-roundhouse are Chuck, Joe and Jim.

[@Chronicskillness]

Oh and Muay Thai in the book was Dan Inosanto lol. He did some. But Bruce didn't do anything close to a Thai kick or guard etc. His grappling was stand up part was Judo... throws and take downs. On the ground was Gene. Judo is like Shuai Jiao. You don't really train on the ground. Gene knew real wrestling which is another level. Several levels. It's used to deal with elite BJJ people.

[@randalwung8715]

Y'know, I've never understood the adamance over firmly establishing what Bruce Lee did and didn't study and/or train in. He encouraged Dan Inosanto to explore his culture's martial arts, and as soon as he came back from any Kali class, he’d go, "Okay, Dan, show me what you learned today!" How do you think he picked up his famous nunchucks in the first place? One time, Dan showed him some stick work and when he was done, Bruce went, "Okay, this is what I would do," and basically improvised a routine from, I believe, Largo Mano, something Dan knew he'd never seen before. How’d he do that? Well, like everything else in his art, Lee understood the weapon to the point where he figured out the same combative solutions others had. He simply-wait for it-absorbed what was useful. So given that ability and mindset, is it really so hard to accept that he possibly studied 26 different arts-who knows, maybe more-and what he chose to keep eventually resembled boxing, fencing, and a little Wing Chun? Does the notion of examining other things somehow taint the final product? Because if it does, you might be concentrating less on the moon and more on the finger pointing to it.

[@carloscruz2850]

Show me the proof!

[@deejaye72]

Great video

[@jamest4198]

Bruce took part in boxing in high school for a while. When Bruce started learning Wing Chun Kung Fu, Yip Man only taught him a little bit. Yip Man was quite elderly and was more of a supervisor. Bruce learned most of his Wing Chun from the senior students in Wing Chun, Wong Shun Leung and William Cheung. After coming to the USA Bruce also learned some Judo from Gene LeBelle.

[@JEM-fo6rs]

James T well said, William Cheung was a huge part of that time line. They were friends and Yip Man sent Cheung to continue Lee’s training after Lee was removed from the school because of his mix blood. (Jealousy)

[@jamest4198]

@Tony Ngo I know Jesse Glover was a student of Bruce in the USA, did Jesse teach Bruce some Judo?

[@yogamarga6743]

Bruce Lee started learning Judo 5-6 years before he met Gene Lebelle!. Follow KGF and Golden Bell for accurate facts.

[@jamest4198]

@@yogamarga6743 Ok sure, but that in no way invalidates my statement that Bruce also learned some Judo from Gene LeBelle! Take your negative energy and cram it lol.

[@yogamarga6743]

@@jamest4198 I stated a fact to correct your misrepresentation. Whats so negative about that? Stop being a sensitive infant! Grow up!

[@marsonofjo344]

You are correct. "Keep what is useful, reject what is useless."

[@steveholland6982]

Great video I thought I knew a lot about Bruce but didn't

[@georgegoodyear9631]

Thank you very much for taking the time and trouble to produce such a cogent video. The background context to JKD gave an insightful understanding to a relative beginner, such as myself.

[@JKDandWingChun]

George Goodyear I’m delighted to be of service. I know there’s quite a bit of info out there - and not all of it accurate - so I’m just trying to help clarify things and save folks some time. Thanks for watching.

[@thewarriorscode2311]

Fook Yeung who was friends with Bruce Lee's father taught Bruce Lee in Seattle too according to most of his original group of students Jessie Glover and so forth, a great guy to look up is Steve Smith he knows a lot of the history he has done a few interviews about his teachers and friends great stuff and as you say the truth will set you free. Love your videos man 😊

[@JKDandWingChun]

sean kieve great input! Thanks for watching.

[@corylaverdure1866]

agreed that that Steve Smith is a good source of info on Mr. Yeung, but there were many other influences on Lee during that time. now that I think about it, I think Sid Woodcock had an influence as well, but Steve would know that too.

[@alekswanson]

Fook Yeung was knowledgeable in Red Boat Wing Chun, Southern Mantis, and 4 or 5 other styles. He helped Bruce's Wing Chun and influenced Bruce's ideas and foundation.

[@COMB0RICO]

Thanks from Texas.

[@LovinglyStonedProd]

Yes! So true!

[@nineroundforest5760]

Good information. Glad you shared.

[@anonymoose9907]

Awesome video. I am wondering where did the grappling come from? I have started up with Syracuse Martial Arts Academy which teaches Wing Chun, JKD and Kali. I haven't taken too many JDK classes yet but there seems to be a lot of it that is oriented to grappling, takedowns and judo similar ground fighting. Some of the classes are basically 1 hour of judo which really isn't something that I want to be doing, even though I probably SHOULD want to be doing judo. The physical fitness portion of the class at the beginning also relies heavily on 3 ground exercises geared toward ground fighting and one is called "shrimping". Did Bruce Lee's JDK contain a shit ton of judo / wrestling or did that get introduced later by various people looking to add their own favorite martial arts to JKD?

[@JKDandWingChun]

To answer your question directly, it was added. I will say, however, that this isn’t necessarily a bad thing for two reasons. One, Lee himself was dabbling in it so it’s kind of inferred in the method. Second, judo is highly effective for a self-defender (after all, when man meets asphalt, asphalt is undefeated). Of course, this assumes that the instructors are upfront with you about the whole thing. No, judo isn’t central to JKD. I think the whole thing is about communication and intellectual honesty with the student. All of us have a bias, that is to say an basic premise. Mine is that the intercepting fist methodology meets the needs of the self-defender expertly and most of our training should go to that end. Anything else is auxiliary. In our school we do lots of boxing because I think it’s the safest way to develop timing and accuracy under pressure. But again, it’s my job as the instructor to educate the student about all that and not go down a rabbit hole. Hopefully that all makes sense and your training is going well.

[@anonymoose9907]

@@JKDandWingChun Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply. I have subscribed. Looking forward to watching more of your videos.

[@palnagok1720]

Look for some shuai Jiao lessons

[@taiquangong9912]

Thank you! I read and build my art.

[@i-evi-l]

Watched Video. Went straight to comments to see how much people were calling blasphemy. Wasn't disappointed.

[@JKDandWingChun]

50k3r2 🤣

[@JerryLynch2]

A very, very, enjoyable video. Not a bunch of rah, rah, rah, or showing off, nor hidden agenda to promote and capitalize. Homegrown knowledge through research and investigation. He didn't conceal discoveries and even selflessly shared his work. Never once trying to sell you...not saying profit is a dirty word. You just gained a loyal subscriber. This is a true teacher. Please realise how much time he has saved you. Furthermore, the paths and paved direction...priceless. Thank you, sir!

[@JKDandWingChun]

Jerry Lynch I’m truly humbled by your comments. Thanks. It’s certainly our goal here - God willing - to keep producing stuff that can help everyone out there. Thanks again.

[@JerryLynch2]

You're welcome and thank you for everything!

[@michaelblack5030]

My sifu always did research as well and separated Kali from jkd the big deference is the practice of the straight lead with we got from Tim tackett

[@theredninja2817]

Tim tackett was my instructor you in Redlands California where he still lives and has the Wednesday night class in his garagemy first instructor was a guy by the name of Dennis blue when I was 17 years old at Chaffey college in the inland empire California and it was then invited to the Redlands area Tim tackett trained under Danny inosanto but he also took different forms of kung fu before ever really training and JKD

[@mikeruddell6091]

In watching this for the 3rd time, I had a Homer Simpson moment (DOH). I used to wonder why the academy was a combination of boxing, Wing Chun and JKD. Now I get the method to your brilliance!

[@pointdoc1]

Bravo!

[@zman4116]

Hi Jason. I hope that people listen to your advice imo it’s spot on. Anyway, if you got hold of an old British Boys Boxing Manual, they describe the cuff riposte, otherwise known as a pak-sao punch, and executed simultaneous circa1924. Trivia but maybe a little interesting. Just to rave on. I believe that BL followed Ip Man and sought to not only fill gaps in his WC but to improve or adapt, which it seems Ip Man did. That is, Ip seemed open to modifying his expression of WC where necessary. Have a good one.

[@JKDandWingChun]

G Sea absolutely! Great input. Thanks a bunch for that and for watching.

[@josephperkins4080]

What book on Wing Chun would you reccomend?

[@JKDandWingChun]

P4P G.O.A.T. UBF Champion Joseph Strong I really like David Peterson’s book on Wong Shun Leung.

[@soufichan1791]

In short, bruce developed constantly and learned from what he thought useful and this is the idea behind jkd. The style of no style. Bruce also had strong knowledge about chinese internal arts.

[@axelstone3131]

How was Bruce able to execute such rapid kicks with the amount of force he had? My legs don’t move like that.

[@palnagok1720]

Wear iron shoes for 6 months and hold your leg out in a fixed position for 25 min and then raise it up

[@axelstone3131]

@@palnagok1720 I don’t think he was doing that, he was doing other stuff. Thanks for the reply though even though this comment is 3 years old

[@moneystewart5257]

He also has books he would read and extract knowledge from and his close friend James got him into weight lifting and hand conditioning and they wrote a book "ironpalm in 100 days" with James ,but Bruce learn from many people and sources ,I got a few Bruce Lee books and Boxing is a heavy influence on his Martial Arts system along with Wing Chun and Grappling, it is also believe that Bruce was a amateur boxing competitor but his knowledge and understanding of conditioning was extremely advance because he was doing what he loved and knew many knowledgeable people that shared information with him ,but he really like boxing and should that knowledge could be take to a whole nother level personally and teaching.

[@hotlanta35]

Bruce was planning on going back to Hong Kong to continue Wing Chun after closing his JKD schools.

[@adami2140]

Yes, true but their was never the implication he was leaving JKD behind. I know about the letter, but I think Bruce wanted to finish his training in Wing Chun because he never knew the whole system and there was more that could be used for the advancement of his own style. When we look at WSL there is a air of modification and different understandings that Bruce was interested in exploring through WSL and Ving Tsun.

[@corylaverdure1866]

many good points. curious you skipped over the time Lee spent in Seattle.

[@Shubham-kw8pz]

Great information keep going sir

[@JKDandWingChun]

Shubham thanks for watching

[@Shubham-kw8pz]

@@JKDandWingChun I respect you sir you give great information for jkd to me

[@ricardodiaz4381]

the bottom line is who train you in this art and who were your instructors i would like to see you have a talk with goru Dan and speak about JKD concepts and compare notes and ideas and also who was your wing chun instructors also

[@Shubham-kw8pz]

Sifu Jeet kune do is better than wingchun reply me ?

[@stephanwatson7902]

6:21 No way as way means you can use anything that works. Any effective technique can be "jkd" jkd is not a set of specific martial arts. Restricting your style is literally the opposite of jkd

[@stephanwatson7902]

Bruce Lee literally said in the towel don't limit yourself to what you read here or only to what you find in my style. He knew people would try to fight only how he did or with what he's figured out in his time, he wanted people to evolve, not to be stuck in the 1960's

[@elasticharmony]

Bruce Lee was a great speaker, his expressions are a marvel. You all have seen his numchuck vs matches! Epic If old man Bruce were alive today the world would be a better place. I learned from reading him, and gave up all forms.

[@worldclass64]

You are correct on what you mentioned , Bruce also was influenced by his own students or piers which ever way you want to see them karate , kenpo and tae kwon do backgrounds . Such as Joe Lewis , Mike Stone, Jhoon Rhee , and others

[@fr.jamesrosselli9701]

Jason Sifu, Thank you for so freely sharing your art. As a Tai Chi guy, I wish there would be more acknowledgment of the fact that Bruce Lee's foundation was in the Tai Chi that his father taught him as a child. Your own counter that closes inside the opponent, we cal "entering the opponent's garden." If you watch Tai Chi Chuan Wu Shu, I'm sure you will see how TRai Chi, Wing Chun and Jeet Kun Do are a logical progression. Much respect /o --Fr, James+ Tai Chi for Christians

[@mtolivesecurityshipping5455]

Leo Fong said Bruce needed to learn boxing because he was open to hooks. He also told me that Bruce was not the greatest fighter in the world. Greatest film star, yes!

[@OldManFrank]

*I trained in JKD for about a year. My trainer was Mike Rivas who was taught by Ted Wong. To be honest, I trained in 2003 and my training is a bit hazy. I wish I had a bit more experience but, I later moved on to an MMA gym, to a boxing coach and now Krav Maga.*

[@Robinson11]

Who is this guy and who is he certified under in JKD??

[@jackhartsough3]

Theres a lot of people teaching jkd that don't know what their doing. I trained only a couple years and can trace back my teachers 3 people to Dan inosanto and I see people claiming jkd and they are frauds.

[@melodicdestruction]

Based off his stance on JKD as a style and who he mentioned, I think it’s pretty obvious he’s from the Ted Wong lineage, weather or not he’s certified directly under him idk.

[@thomashenderson7481]

If U R referring to Sifu Jason Darius, I believe he's a disciple of Ted Wong . He mentioned that in another one of his videos. I stand by him & trusts what he says 👌

[@pehunter1]

@@melodicdestruction, you may be right about this guy in the video. I just would like to know why you all don't check your grammar and spelling when you all are making comments. Although this isn't a classroom for English, I do believe that those who're native speakers should know how to read, write, and speak correctly to convey their message without slopping up the language. Sometimes, it detracts from the message due to the lack of clarity.

[@tarkajedi3331]

I have been inspired by these videos and did a full session with just my lead jab with my power side forwards!!!! Ok that was weird !!! Normally my left is forwards!!! I also did footork with the Jab and kicked my shin on the coffee table!!!! Anyway thank you for sharing your wisdom Sifu! I think Bruce was a genius for his time!

[@elindioedwards1048]

Good and very well researched video. I have always wondered why Lee didn't explore Muay Thai or have a greater regard for it. It certainly was very 'alive', the fighters conditioning is off the charts, and it is a somewhat hybrid system with stand up grappling and a distinct boxing influence and structure. Maybe because he came back to the US as a relatively young man?

[@elindioedwards1048]

@VINCENTNATTI Hey Vincent, good to hear from you. From what I have seen Bruce drew very little from Muay Thai. I have never seen Lee throw a knee or elbow. Nor did I ever see him throw a Muay Thai/Lethwei round kick. Lee did mention Thai Boxing in The Tao of JKD but it is really not that flattering of a review. In fact it is almost word for word the same review given by Robert W Smith in Asian Fighting Arts. I don't think Lee gave it much of an overall rating than what he gave Tae Kwon Do. I have to say that I am really surprised at his lack of interest. Yes, the Thais are probably better now and they have incorporated some western boxing concepts into their training. With that said I would say on average your run of the mill Thai was probably better than most of the 1960s Karate stylists that Lee encountered in the states. I have seen the Choy Li Fut quote before. Do you know the source of this quote?

[@elindioedwards1048]

@VINCENTNATTI Does he mention the jab and hook as being inadequate? That description is almost word for word the same as what Robert W Smith stated. I have heard the same type of critique in regards from others. Compared to western boxing they are correct I guess. Im also surprised that the martial arts community in the 60s seemed to have been oblivious to the Vale Tudo events that were held in Brazil . I think prior to his death Lee began to have more regard for Muay Thai. Seems like Inosanto was kind of the catalyst for this interest.

[@elindioedwards1048]

@VINCENTNATTI I remember reading a Black Belt magazine around 1973 that had an article about a Karate stylist who was Japanese Brazilian. Otherwise I don't any mention about anything in Brazil. Like I said earlier Robert W Smith was also somewhat critical of Muay Thai. On the other hand he was very biased towards internal boxing such as Tai Chi. There are full contact competitions in Taiwan but I think pro Muay Thai is more polished overall.

[@bcjclj]

El Indio Edwards Bruce allegedly sparred some MT guys while in Thailand shooting The Big Boss. He respected MT but wasn’t a fan of their footwork. He thought they were too flat footed. Also, Bruce used knees in sparring. You can even see when he’s sparring his students at Longbeach. He actually lands a knee to the dome in the video.

[@elindioedwards1048]

@@bcjclj I seem to recall that he took a second look at MT after Inosanto was exposed to it. They even attempted to create some Thai pads. The cardio and conditioning required I would have thought would have something that he would really appreciated . In addition Muay Thai for its time was probably the most wide open rule set compared to anything for the time period. Of course nowadays the JKD concepts guys have incorporated at lot of Muay Thai and Inosanto also has discovered Lethwei.

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

Dragon is barely a biopic. It leaves out that Bruce Lee was a huge child star in China, as big as Macaulay Culkin.

[@scotty1404]

William Cheung deserves a mention in teaching Bruce Lee

[@canpfire]

Bruce Lee was older than Muhammad by 2 years. He created his own style through movements from other martial arts techniques which allowed him to utilize feet as well as hands in a fluid manner.

[@88KUNGFUMAN]

I think before you say "There is no evidence he studied 26 different arts, other than what others have said", you may want to consider that some of those who "said" are/were people who trained with, taught or knew Bruce personally. The odds are. had he finished all of the Ip Man lineage WC(and it is short sighted to make an assumption that his is the only true WC family), he would have still created JKD. Whether he would have called it that name or another is speculatory.

[@fahrad7075]

But how will you know what bruces thaughts was on it ? About ali innosanto said(even i dont like him caling all them other arts jkd) that bruce watched him move from the back of the screen like if you are seating in the cinema behind the screen so it looked like he was standing with the right foot forward. If we want to do it we could watch him mirrored. Keep on recomending them books and making videos .thx for the work man .

[@shinobi1kenobi75]

Jhoon Ree taught Bruce Lee effective kicking techniques.

[@jaimcgee4566]

You need to get with Robert Kerbo in Tulsa, Oklahoma. We under Ted Wong as well.

[@FrancisMaxino]

Didn't Bruce win a boxing tournament in school in 1958 ? I mean he did box at the same time as he was learning Wing Chun didn't he ? He also learnt Judo and knew a lot of the Tai Chi sets, very definitely seen him do crane type routines in the early sixties so I don't think he was just Wing Chun like everyone seems to claim otherwise why would he be doing amazing Shaolin type demonstrations with spinning high kicks and stuff, that's niot Wing Chun....

[@deejaye72]

Would love to come train with you, I'm in Atlanta Ga

[@JKDandWingChun]

deejaye72 that’s only a couple of hours unless traffic is bad and then it could be a day or two. Lol. But, seriously, a few guys do come in from Atlanta a few times a month.

[@deejaye72]

@@JKDandWingChun I'm an old wing Chun practitioner, always wanted to learn JKD, I also have been studying tai chi for the last eight years, Cheng man ching style. Maybe we can trade....ever want to learn tai chi? Good for you

[@theredninja2817]

@@JKDandWingChun I live in southern California do you have any videos or any type of DVD courses downloads whatnotI would love to train some of your stuff if so can you email me any of that information especially any type of course info aside from just a KZbin channel if you don't mind [e-mail]

[@cuzz63]

Great video. I was impressed that you didnt perpetuate the myth of why Bruce fought Wong Jack Man.

[@yang5159]

Bruce li's techniques also comes from high caliber shaolin combat exponents. I have witness some very high caliber shaolin that are equal or faster than Bruce, shaolin can generate very powerful punch or push through internal energy training

[@marlonlo9661]

What about his kicking techniques?

[@justacontrarian]

Exactly. Certain instructors (and members of the Lee family) for political reasons want to ignore the fact that Sijo Lee learned -- and taught --more than gung fu, boxing, and fencing. It's just quite disingenuous to say that Jun Fan/JKD is only Wing Chun, Western boxing, and Western Fencing. None of those systems teach you to kick as what's taught in Jeet Kune Do. Smh.

[@zman4116]

If you haven’t already, look at Jack Johnson’s boxing style. Johnny Famechon, who you likely have not heard of, was a fly weight boxer whose defensive skills saw him win a lot but notably, was never seriously hurt in the ring. Famechon traces his style directly from Jack Johnson. Famechons book is more than likely out of print, but you never know. Just a suggestion since you have an interest in the area and what you find might be of value to your skill set.

[@bowlineobama]

Talk to Bruce's wife, Linda, and she can tell you the truth and settle the arguments.

[@thecrowrains]

Spot-on! Agreed. This 13 minute video is in a sense a moot point, because Bruce Lee ALREADY divulged who taught him, by way of conveying verbally and physically, everything about Jeet Kune Do to the current teachers of Jeet Kune Do (the direct lineage of Bruce Lee to Grandmaster Daniel Inosanto, the direct lineage of Daniel Glover, Taky Kimura, Ted Wong, and the teachers under Poteet’s extended lineage UNDER Bruce Lee), so in nutshell one does not NEED Greenville Academy to regurgitate what has long been known by the Inosanto lineage UNDER Bruce Lee, the Ted Wong lineage UNDER Bruce Lee, etc, etc. One could also ask the daughter of Bruce Lee and Linda Lee Cadwell, none other than Shannon Lee who is in direct control of EVERTHING Bruce Lee and Jeet Kune Do, by way of the Bruce Lee Estate.

[@user-qy1ie4fp8l]

thecrowrains what the heck are you babbling about? Lots of people find JKD and are quite confused about the m disconnect between Ted Wong JKD, JKD Concepts, and frankly the many people who claim to teach JKD but are frauds.

[@thecrowrains]

@@user-qy1ie4fp8l Whoa, guy you just tossed in an authentic Jeet Kune Do name specifically Ted Wong, with JKD-Concepts, then included an extremely vague description of ″many people who claim to teach JKD but are frauds″. Sounds like it is YOU who needs some education on the matter. Here is what you need to do right now: separate Ted Wong and by extension his Jeet Kune Do lineage that still teaches under his name and Bruce AWAY FROM anything related to concepts. Concepts are NOT authentic Jeet Kune Do. Concepts started under Paul Vunak who is NOT official Bruce Lee lineage! Vunak was 14 years old when Bruce Lee had already died; far too young to ever be a Bruce Lee protege. Vunak was considered a protege but he never studied under Lee, instead occasionally under Inosanto. Vunak at age 10 started studying Taekwondo, getting his black belt four years later at age 14. Vunak was born in 1960. If you do that math that means he was 14 upon receiving his Taekwondo black belt in the year 1977. Bruce Lee sadly died 4 years prior. Impossible to be a protege. Grandmaster Inosanto, a direct student under Bruce, did occasionally mentored Vunak, but Vunak went out on his own and created concepts. The authentic lineages UNDER Bruce are Ted Wong, Taky Kimura, Inosanto, Daniel Glover. If confused contact the Bruce Lee Estate, run directly by Shannon Lee.

[@user-qy1ie4fp8l]

thecrowrains I think you misread my comment. I outlined the three general types of schools people run across when finding JKD: Ted Wong JKD, Concepts, and other. There are some 'other' which are legit lineage from Bruce students, but there's a lot more people who claim to teach JKD but are fakes. Even without the 'other' camp, people finding JKD are often confused as to what it is, because of the history of JKD, specifically due to Bruce's premature death. Why is Concepts strong hand back? Why do these guys use sticks? Why do all these schools teach Muy Thai and JKD classes? Is JKD the practice of taking things from other arts and making it your own? Should we just trust what Bruce came to by the end of his life and accept that as JKD? These are questions new practitioners and curious people ask. The point of my comment is to say that "Just go ask Bruce's widow" is a silly statement to make. Thousands of people discover JKD for the first time every day. It's simply a fact that the history and definition of JKD is unclear. We owe it to Bruce and to our art to spend time making it clearer.

[@thecrowrains]

@@user-qy1ie4fp8l Understand your confusion, it is messy in this era of social media where any yahoo can claim to be something she/he is not. I left out some other names that studied directly under Bruce, but did not want to bog you down with excessive info. I would highly recommend reaching out to the Bruce Lee Estate, run directly by his daughter who is in charge of everything legal-related, everything publicly rendered (film, tv, etc). She or her staff may offer an official school-instructor list. I understand Khan Loo’s comment, for he/she is right that Linda Lee Cadwell WOULD KNOW all there is to know about Bruce Lee’s authentic Jeet Kune Do (as would his daughter). Logistically speaking the widow is not making herself publicly available, whereas his daughter by running the Bruce Lee Estate, is. Lastly, if you are in California you could visit Grandmaster Daniel Inosanto’s studio to ask him/them yourself. Inosanto trained-with and starred-in Bruce Lee’s films. He would be an awesome resource.