JOE BUDDEN and BRANDON MARSHALL Discuss Podcast Breakup | I AM ATHLETE

[@km-oy6pr]

In The Equalizer movie, Denzel said "Sometimes you can take a wrong turn trying to get to the right place." I think that's what happened with BMarshall. He thought what he wanted was the "right place". It was the right place for him but no one else. Hopefully everyone involved reaches peace and closure one day

[@mrjay3047]

He wanted them to share the vision and passion and not just the success, but wanted them to be all successful. Sometimes people are afraid to be great until shown the way.

[@patdeezy716]

Denzel is the 🐐

[@richardmatthews2807]

@@whodat5492 you must be one of them that’s great detail

[@chandlerbrickner7251]

wow good perspective on the situation man

[@dlj8694]

I Am Athlete exist today because of the original cast. Not to take away from Marshall’s vision and drive. There were issues in the beginning with Marshall and the other host feeling silenced by Marshall and his seemingly need to control. These things happen often and sadly this one is happening publicly. I hope they all find peace and forgiveness with much success whether separate or apart.

[@fb7881]

What r u talking about? Those are your feelings. He just told us the issues bro! IAA exist today because of B's vision, period. The original cast left because once they saw the potential money involved and wanted to change the contracts because of buyer's remorse. None of that is B's fault and none of that has anything to do with B shutting them out. He had a right to "control" because he was the majority owner. Business is business at the end of the day. If you chose an employee tract over a partnership tract that's your problem

[@eligutierrez9062]

Facts. The original cast is why I'm still here. Ocho needs to come back. And Shady is the main reason I still watch

[@ricardocampbell8430]

Stop dreaming!

[@tiffanibanks7218]

One person has a vision but builds a platform WITH others. You have to acknowledge their contribution AND thank them.

[@GoatedCulturePodcast]

@@tiffanibanks7218 he had the vision … they didn’t believe in it , he gave them a chance to put the money up & become real partners , they didn’t believe so they didn’t put up money , leaving him to put all the money up & take all the risks … then once they saw how much his vision was coming to life they THEN wanted to have ownership and that’s not fair to Brandon 🤦🏽‍♂️ that being said … I wish Brandon could’ve just gave them a price … like “I spent X amount total … y’all need to pay me this much to make things even & THEN let’s bust the contract down split even from that point” still not fair to Brandon but at the same time giving them the respect to say my money is what built this … but also you guys talents …

[@ariallefty]

Doesn't seem like Brandon fully communicated his dream to everyone. Percentages change but the work and effort didn't change? Does not add up. Podcasts blew up in COVID and no one knew how to manage them as a business. Everyone needs to admit their faults and move on.

[@jneville2206]

I agree!!! I get the start of the Podcast but waiting to the last minute and barley explaining will have people think different which will leave people hanging in the dark.

[@whoareyoumanful]

🎯

[@blakemasters5742]

brandon’s admits himself that he didn’t know what he was doing. So much so that he was asking everyone he knew that did a podcast to get advice

[@ebonylea7465]

I think Brandon OVERcommunicated. In business, you can lose people when you talk too much about your vision. I get the sense that’s part of what happened. Brandon is an emotional dude who wants everyone to win and be successful. Some view that as a weakness or weak-mindedness.

[@nathancalipari8050]

true colors in people truly shine when large amounts of money are involved as well as egos aren't checked at the door and then whomever you're surrounding yourself with, whether its friends or family or both, etc...

[@SOAKTV]

This is sad. Joe and Brandon are two different cases. Joe is mature and experienced to know why his situation fell apart. The chemistry wasn’t there for a long time. You can almost say, they fell outta love. In Brandon’s situation, he was the toxic spouse. And as a result he watched his family get torn apart, and his ex is happy and doing better without him, than he even is doing. I love B Marshall. That’s why I said this is sad for all of us. He’s hurting because he knows there were things he could’ve done differently. Joe is not stressing because they just fell out of love, nothing you can do about that. It is what it is. It’s the ones that you can prevent, them the ones that hurt yknow

[@coachtali5151]

This is wrong Brandon put the money up they didn't it's really as simple as that

[@SOAKTV]

@@coachtali5151 okay still. My point is on the analogy of a marriage. Most times it’s one partner who puts everything up at the onset anyway. But not even sticking to that, the guys who left IAA most definitely got paid before exiting. And they put their time in. So I don’t know where I’m wrong

[@coachtali5151]

@@SOAKTV cause how is he toxic because they left. He didn't do anything wrong

[@mwalker29]

@@coachtali5151 they all did it was a four way split

[@theblackcyde2506]

This analogy is off because Joe Budden has been way more toxic. Brandon never fried one then got upset the other left, he never told a cohost this podcast was “none of his business”. This is different

[@Rock3head]

It’s crazy how the platform was built off of them and now it’s used against them. Truthfully, it’s hard to watch without them

[@cavemanyogi150]

I stopped watching when they left, only clicked this bc im a big Budden fan and it popped on my feed.

[@bdmoore3703]

@@cavemanyogi150 same for me💯

[@itsmeimnuggas2743]

@@cavemanyogi150 you missing out fr , both pods fire 🔥

[@drewill57]

@@itsmeimnuggas2743 nah, can’t follow fakes. You are who you surround yourself around

[@reneesantiago6496]

@@cavemanyogi150 If your a big Budden fan then why did you stop watching??? Because Rory and Mal left??

[@CRANKDATDONTE]

I didn’t even know Ocho left. I mean Chef Nancy was even a big part of the show for me!

[@boblansonfig3972]

He left?!

[@wererer]

holy shit did he really? thats a shame..

[@MayDay2304]

Chef Nancy 🐐

[@Quinn.F]

Ocho better not pop up on the ops podcast!!

[@earliecoffield9742]

He ain’t leave he had his kid

[@timothy8484]

I wonder how many times each of these guys were told to be “grateful” by the owners and GMs of the teams they played for and how much they loved to be told that come contract time.

[@mbtez6322]

Mannnnn shits crazy

[@moneymike9685]

It’s crazy because it wasn’t a big platform at the time because they made it that big

[@alexandrejean-pierre5091]

tell it to Shady..grateful grateful…shady shoudnt talk

[@dhunter7622]

Yeah, the "be grateful" comment by Shady was lame and didn't make sense. These dudes want every Million that they can get and will hold out for more money. Pretty sure they not trying to hear "be grateful" during contract time.

[@omgeoh]

🎯 🎯 thank you. They think running a business requires screwing your partners over. They’re hypocrites, they sound exactly like the NFL GMs and Owners they used to criticize.

[@princeshine9062]

I understand everything they saying but the old I am athlete crew was the dream team and all of these men (speaking of the old crew) seemed emotionally mature enough to get through any difficulties they may have been facing. Hopefully someday we can see that dynamic again.

[@blakshaeinc6175]

I personally like the new crew Better just like Joes situation. His new crew is more mature and actually challenge him

[@blestcriminal]

I agree

[@MrJreed98]

There’s no way to get past ownership of intellectual property.

[@princeshine9062]

@@MrJreed98 that's not really what I was trying to imply. More about coming to an understanding.

[@cortrellhonor8839]

It wouldn’t hit the same

[@quinntona.657]

McCoy said that they should be grateful. That comment is crazyyy

[@DatBoyK21]

He acting like b marsh did them a favor. Shady the one that should be grateful.

[@starttheconvopod]

He tried to make it like B Marsh made those dudes. They all made each other. No one really knew B Marsh outside of football like that until IAA. Shady needs to stop.

[@MsPowerb40]

I supremely dislike the way "we", just really getting into big business, implement these shark tactics against each other and mask it as "just business" because that is the way we have been conditioned to behave. The fact is we don't have the network the people we "learn" from have and need to do right and build with each other. Also, the people we are looking to supposedly emulate don't mess in their own network the same way they may do business with you. There is a lot of growing to be done.

[@GoogleAccount00]

Your first sentence!!!

[@bebeskids4759]

This was powerful.

[@xOTSxGAMERSx]

Facts

[@ATHTSupply]

But honestly businesses would prosper without some form of “shark tactics” that’s where the conditioning comes from. When you see business after business flourishing with said tactics your gonna pick some of them up. That build with each other sounds good. But as you said we all are just now getting there or trying to get there

[@tahitiantreatskeetjuice692]

I made this point countless of times. The podcast space is full of talentless wyt boys, so for 2 successful blk podcast, to blow up in that space, yet waste time attacking each other, is sad. But I think this is more about ego than race. As egos tend to ruin many businesses, in all cultures. So even tho u see it as black vs black, this situation is actually deeper than that

[@shawn-xu8jj]

Read between the lines… once it blew up Brandon wanted it all for him and his lady … and wanted them to be happy with smaller percentage

[@terrywilson8240]

It feels like Brandon woman was quarterbacking the whole situation on the low..she seems like she's an asshole..but b marsh seems as a sweetheart but emotional at times..the wife is the puppet master I believe..but selfish covertly

[@michaelwilson939]

Boom

[@valerieavery8025]

That part!!!!

[@vanrickwilson3350]

Even Alicia leave too

[@omgeoh]

And he replaced them with people who are oblivious to the fact that they’re getting a small percentage or none at all.

[@1217BULB]

I liked how Omar spoke up and told them stop beating around the bush. B Marshall was acting too scared to say something just speak on it and leave it alone.

[@AROUNDDAWAY]

Chef Nacy and the OG crew gone says it all

[@Poppa417]

You still watching

[@ralphsemerson]

Man I hope they read this comment. But this doesn’t have to be the NFL on Sunday. I pray all of these dope grown men can move past this and know that everyone can win. Everyone can eat!! We the audience can watch both, buy both brands and support both. Appreciate Brandon’s transparency.

[@nikibf28]

Right I didn't get that.. trying to make it a competition isn't a good thing

[@themartialartway]

Everyone can eat. It enough for everyone! Hope men can come back together and make amend.

[@nuera9086]

I agree and tbh I think bmarsh feels the same DJ just making it seem like that but if you ask Brandon he wants those guys to do well too and so do they for him. I don’t know how off camera they operated but on camera the impression I got is that they were all doing it as friends then money came into the picture and we all know that changes people

[@ThomasPhoenixJr]

Everybody wants to judge and most of you all blame Brandon sorry it did not work let it go all these brothers can eat give them all some love

[@nikibf28]

McCoy and Pacman are yes men.. and they know damn well the show was better with the original cast

[@mechiloc7]

Facts!!! Shady and Pac-Man isn’t right for a podcast the whole vibe isn’t right. They made the show worse

[@Th3gr3atjuan]

That don’t make them yes men. Quit insulting them Grown men. The show goes on despite how we feel. It’s a business

[@jowallace23]

This episode was not what it was hyped to be. How are three of the four people talking about a break up they weren't a part of? Where's Ocho? Brandon and Ocho are the only ones that should be talking about the break-up

[@WearyKawhi]

Ocho left

[@EXPIredKUSH]

@@WearyKawhi Ocho didn’t leave

[@mrmiller941]

What killed me is shady saying they should have been grateful and not understanding that without them IAA would not be what it is today. B marsh alone didn't make the show he was the weakest cast member to me

[@jowallace23]

@@mrmiller941 💯💯

[@mrsantanabmoregamer2148]

Ocho left amicably because he still calls Brandon . Ocho more then likely left for personal issues

[@johnblake9817]

I haven’t Watched IAA and I came to see if Brandon was gonna admit his wrongs. Instead continues to blame and act like he can’t do no wrong we have to stop giving this channel attention

[@valerieavery8025]

A waste of time and I only gave it five minutes.

[@esttre2718]

You don’t even know him

[@laurenp6818]

@@esttre2718 never met a politician either but I know nonsense a Mile away. Common now. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@johnblake9817]

@@laurenp6818 ‼️‼️

[@Joe-gl3sc]

This episode was so hyped up for views! Y’all was all over the place ! Shady & Pac shouldn’t even speak on the topic

[@curlyvirgo58]

I thought it was just me. My head is hurting, trying to follow.

[@christopherhaslon5021]

Agreed but as a jbp fan it was fluent somewhat It’s basically about break ups

[@Joe-gl3sc]

@@curlyvirgo58 lol

[@ScarfaceKingOfKings]

I see a problem. When you sit down at the inception of a business, and those people invest, they are the set shareholders. The owners. For Brandon Marshall to say once the podcast grew, and the percentages changed, that was his lacking business acumen speaking. The percentages of ownership do not change, unless each of the investors sell some of their shares. If Brandon Marshall included his wife and friends that comes out of his percentage, not Fred's. That's bad business; Toxic ideology. It feels like Brandon just tried to take over and do what he wanted within vision, regardless of what the other guys wanted. I don't know the full story, I'm just going off of what bmarsh said here.

[@jerrymurphy329]

Bingo...you hit the nail on the head!

[@Acizzle76]

thats how i saw it too

[@bullet5760]

swear to god I'm listening right now like how do the percentages change🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cms74p]

Bingo, was just about to write this

[@ShogunTen]

🎯

[@GroovusChrist]

Joe and Brandon are pretty similar. They both had top notch podcasts and ruined them both by not doing right by their cohosts. Nobody was tuning in to hear just Joe or just Brandon. The collective is what made the shows great and now both lack that same hook that they used to have.

[@geesworld]

Ruining and then rebuilding. That is the way of life. I applaud these brothers for having the ability to show how to bounce back after you been knock down.

[@BrotherShakur]

Saying "Be grateful" to the men who started and now own a podcast that is on 🔥 is ridiculous...

[@CaSH187-0]

Saying “be grateful “ when he’s only there because of them🤣🤣🤣 I lost so much respect for Shady and Pacman

[@BrotherShakur]

One thing I respect about RC is that he never gave too much of his opinion publicly when the guys speak about the break up...

[@seandavis4412]

@@CaSH187-0 facts! These dudes are 🤡

[@laurenp6818]

He's not thinking the only reason he's there is because they left. If anybody should be grateful and stay out that conversation is him. He sounds just like his name. SHADY

[@NickN_215]

I love shady, Philly shit but where tf was shady before IAA? smh

[@sethgordon4215]

Shady saying be grateful is crazy. Why should they be “ GRATEFUL “ and take less for something they worked for ?

[@gerlinen]

Shady comes across as immature and almost kissing up to BMarsh. What was he doing before this opportunity?

[@bigdrews4360]

Exactly

[@SwaggOut56]

I don’t understand why the new members speaking more on the subject than Brandon is tho

[@HustleOrNothing]

Yet people who know less than they do are on here painting their own narrative based on their hate for Brandon.

[@Miaflman22]

I really wanted to hear what Brandon had to say when asked the question on “ If they wanted to do a podcast what would you do?” He said to be honest and THEN Pac Man to save his spot interrupted. He was coat ridding this show because he knew Brandon was going to say yeah I probably would. But we will never know THANKS PAC-MAN. BRANDON MISSES THE ORIGINAL IAA CAST. Be a big man and admit it and build back relationships that truly where friendships to begin with. LIFE IS TOO SHORT 💯💯💯

[@jamalwolfe3536]

I appreciate Omar pivoting the convo to get the real stuff on the table

[@msladyp]

Pac, Shady, if you are friends with Brandon don’t let your friend be out here looking like a control freak. Brandon, we get it, you help people…but it’s under your terms

[@cotoniomoses3454]

I agree

[@israelcarrillo6048]

Me too straight control freak vein starts popping out the neck intimidation style.

[@malikrevis6896]

If u help somebody ofcourse u have the control, if that’s the case u would be out here helping everybody. I’m not doing nothin for u to run over me nd forget wha i done did for u

[@ricardocampbell8430]

It's his damn podcast and his damn company so he can do whatever he wants. Stop reaching!

[@laurenp6818]

@@malikrevis6896 and you really believe those two guys ran over BMarsh like their hungry and desperate. You do not believe that one bit. . I understand your point but in this case? B helping B.

[@brooklynforever1990]

The biggest lesson in all of this make sure the paperwork is right from the jump. There’s room enough for both.

[@KallMeSensei-_-]

As we say down south, Brandon said a whole bunch of nothing😂😂😂. And shady and Pac-Man need to stay out business that don’t concern them

[@MrJayelamont]

My gawd this was such a GREAT discussion!!! These discussions need to be had more often, early because when it comes to business we all fall into specific quadrants whether its Employee, Self employed, Business, or Investor and each think and are wired differently regardless of whats on the table. Most friends cant separate the friendship and stick strictly with the business, and additionally most people dont make good business decisions due to the fact they have never started one themselves or been apart of one. All of that needs to be considered before we start talking about ownership.

[@johnmoore1011]

B Marsh said fuck that i need some yes men cuz thats what Pac and Shady is

[@tiwanjones7678]

I would like to know how the "break-up" effected the wives relationships and how they feel about it, because they were taking off as well?? I beleive IAA was on its way to becoming an empire.

[@leonverzuznoel636]

Great point

[@gregorydunston2952]

Tbh, the wives podcast of IAA was part of the problem. Brandon did entirely too much branching out way too quickly. If he wanted to do an IAA for the women, that was fine but then, he did an I Am NASCAR, an IAALA. It was way too much way too soon. Should of just continued to build on your core audience, THEN branch out to more opportunities

[@AlexiusS]

Who cares about the wives?

[@deequeen363]

The wives show was getting very good, no matter what anyone says. I hate that all of this went down like it did.

[@antwanpk]

@@deequeen363 I was really interested in what the wife of a high profile athlete is like they get a bad reps

[@ItsGambinOway]

This should’ve been BMarsh, Ocho and Joe.. only people that can speak to starting a podcast and then going a different direction

[@seedub6288]

I really felt like Pacman did a disservice to what this show should have been, tbh.

[@baylu911]

🎯

[@ItsGambinOway]

@@seedub6288 I kinda like what Pac-Man brings. It’s dope to see him be seen in a different light.

[@seedub6288]

@@ItsGambinOway I meant just this show/episode specifically. What it should have been was B Marsh, Joe, and imo that's it. The title of the podcast was about the breakup - too many people were including themselves in it when in reality had nothing to do with them. That's Pacman included. DJ too.

[@themaster61]

@@seedub6288 Pac-Man was a fucking mess on this episode. No fucking way is he on this screen chewing dip trying to talk looking crazy. Like bruh present yourself and the pod professionally.

[@InspirationalDom]

18:00 is where everything begins!

[@KingMarcellous]

Thank you!

[@mr3000sr]

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sharesecombs3931]

Thank You!!!😏 lol

[@mikeg9730]

Thank u

[@kareemenya]

Yesssss. I’m in a hurry.

[@TeeWord]

This one peeled the curtain back a lil bit but Shady was off base with that 'be grateful' comment. Those guys built IAA together. None of that back office and investment stuff would've mattered if the front facing side wasn't dope.

[@decoreyhale2191]

Facts. That rubbed me the wrong way too

[@demontedudley9607]

Nooo they didn’t Brandon invested all money while they didn’t

[@TeeWord]

@@demontedudley9607 some invested money, some sweat equity. I assure you IAA doesn't blow up without all 4 guys. That has a valuation which unfortunately differs from person to person

[@demontedudley9607]

@@TeeWord I assure you it doesn’t come out period without Brandon investing HIS 11M they didn’t put anything in to start the business but want equities? Make that make sense that’s not how business works

[@TeeWord]

@@demontedudley9607 Brandon didn't put 11m into the show, 10m+ went to House of Athlete. Plus Fred and Channing literally put out a show without Brandon that is more successful. Which proves my point and debunk yours.

[@Commanders2025]

Me and my friend was best friends for almost 20 years. As soon as we mixed business with the friendship and started working together, the friendship definitely faded away. We still talk sometimes, but things are just not the same.. i now understand why you keep your business separated from your personal relationships. Money is the root of everything..

[@drewill57]

That’s why you consult the most high before making decisions like that. It might sound like a good idea to YOU but that move wasn’t apart of the plan which then caused friction that should’ve never happened

[@kenpaacchi]

Saying "Be grateful" when your only here because of what they build form the ground up...

[@laurenp6818]

Fr 😂

[@UjuNduka]

So trueeee

[@MC-pq6hi]

I usually never comment but this was a hot mess. If Brandon really wanted to address the topic it should've been done in a different setting. One on one with Omar maybe...but not with people who were not involved. They overtalked each other jumping from point to point and the audience got absolute nothing out of it. A clickbait for sure. I've supported IAA since its inception, but this was it for me ✌🏽

[@valerieavery8025]

I couldn’t get through 5 minutes but BM got what he wanted! A lot of views!

[@etc4312]

honestly and pac and the dude in red being lowkey disrespectful like they are needed, byee

[@hebrewharv8018]

@@etc4312 yeah. I didn’t like that either. Like what them dudes to you you. Shady was super petty about that for no reason

[@ebonylea7465]

Also… As a 4th generation entrepreneur, I felt what Brandon and Joe were saying… it was spot on. But the reason neither Brandon or Joe talked about their break up situations previously, is because no matter how much they addresses the issue, it’s not going to make sense to everyone. We (the audience) are being let in on what should be a private conversation or “locker room talk” like they used to talk about. Business is messssssssy. It’s messy because you’re creating something out of nothing and hoping and praying and working hard so that it’s successful. You have people (staff) leaning on you and depending on you to be successful. You have an audience and fans, etc. It’s hella pressure. If you’ve never been in the situation, you won’t understand. You just can’t understand because building a company is not just about logic and following a plan. It does require emotion and an understanding of your “why” which is what you must always come back to.

[@jebarlee]

I TOTALLY AGREE ‼️‼️

[@Sexygirl7021]

Yes! This should be pinned. Business is messy. People need to take the emotions out of money.

[@FitFury]

So true!! Best comment

[@leonbryant5474]

Been there done that....The private conversations are just that PRIVATE!!!!!!!!

[@bassman4819]

I think everybody wanted a piece of the pie and to get what they put in....but with that comes patience and trust which started to disappear with the original cast of IAA....i remember when Marsh went to NASCAR for a min...some of us as fans had an issue with it but he was trying to expand the brand and not stay on dimensional.....like Marsh said I think there was to much communication at times....and not enough other times. Plus if everyone invested equal amounts to get the ball rolling...then they also feel they should have equal say so and input which can be very difficult at times.....hated to see this break up man but I wish them all the best

[@oneshotpony7217]

This was dope. Came to watch this cuz I fuck with Joe and them but this shit fire. Def gone keep tuning in.

[@smush4566]

Shady and Pacman played defense against a real honest conversation. Honestly would have preferred a panel of just Budden and Brandon without the distractions.

[@chrisactivefool]

Cap

[@JDBass36]

Is it only me or this episode felt all over the place and didn't quite quinch our thirst

[@GoogleAccount00]

Sounds right on brand with IAA.

[@lbrock16]

@jdbass36 this is every episode now.

[@AshtonRJames]

you are exactly right.

[@Ritfeld89]

Heavily edited

[@jrod3109]

Agreed.. they will get the point when we stop watching it

[@laurenjessica]

Them "grateful" comments by Shady are wild af

[@CTwenty7]

🎯 wild! lol scratching my head because this crew is definitely not giving grateful

[@laurenjessica]

@@CTwenty7 seriously...

[@molebogengm7456]

I wanted to slap some sense and humility in him for that comment especially because he's commenting about things and people he doesn't know about

[@laurenjessica]

@@molebogengm7456 exactly... you cant have an opinion on something you were not involved in. He should have just listened.

[@jiggy8158]

I understand that the conversation needed to be had but why it had to be had with PAC, shady and DJ? They shouldn’t even be speaking on the situation tbh because they’re gonna be biased anyway..

[@jamesedwards8813]

I wish everybody the best. No shots at the new squad they doing their thing but I got to keep it a buck. It ain't the same. It saddens me as a fan to see something so good destroyed. I don't think there is a single podcast on this planet that is as good as the old IAMATHLETE. No hate just keeping it 100. God Bless.

[@lakobeball2881]

💯

[@aaronwright8407]

Facts bro.

[@jakezarlingo3315]

You can’t just say “god bless” at the end. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@lakobeball2881]

@@jakezarlingo3315 god bless

[@MarleyMar87]

Thank you to the production manager for getting the wheels turning!

[@robbanks6112]

I am athlete ain’t the same anymore, I used to tune in all the time.

[@sydneyjones1338]

I appreciate that this is just a good conversation for people to learn about business from real life examples.

[@allante404]

Everyone wants to know…”WHERE’S OCHO?!”

[@doctordef324]

He just had a new child. He's spending time with family.

[@santrice23]

"too many teams divide when dreams collide" - Styles P

[@jameriking]

This is both a podcast & business behind friendships - glad I heard the struggle, doesn't sound like beef, just a series of decisions (not bad or good) & control. I'll tune back into I Am Athlete because of Brandon's explanation. 🙏🏾

[@hudson9812]

You can support multiple platforms ! I still watch both bc they keep the top guests coming and that’s all the consumer wants ! If you actually care that much about the fallout of either party when everybody “landed” as budden said-it probably says more about you 💯

[@jona1han2k4]

I watch em all.. like hell more channels means more content from a different perspective

[@miamihurricane36]

Shady said be grateful 😂. That’s the worst advice you can ever give another man. You should never be content in a situation you know is not right,

[@KR-oo2wx]

He was saying be grateful about the fact they have a big podcast. Cause these days, any and everyone can start up their own

[@akeemMagic01]

Thin line. 🤷🏾‍♂️ a man standing up for himself should be a given.

[@marcquan89]

Nah it’s not actually. Be grateful in a sense of where you started. How you started and what was gained from it. Maybe not all the benefits were gained or were given to you but you gained something in order to profit or progress. But yea if funny business was going on then nah I’ll be grateful but damn sure need mines. I get what you saying tho.

[@700DOADotty]

18:02 is what you all are here for if you were a fan of the OG cast

[@str8facts607]

I hope Brandon finds good ppl to surround himself with. Its clear Pacman and Shady would let the man jump off a cliff and cheer him on.

[@IAMKC84]

👊 YOU SAID IT. Talk your stuff!!!!

[@lebrown3301]

I AM ATHLETE podcast was lightening in a bottle. I think fans have to be willing to love what was, while being okay with supporting what is. The new cast isn’t as dope, but it’s still fairly entertaining. I hope there is still room to find the right mix.

[@GodlyNatureYT]

You bugging.

[@jayo961]

OnG I hate they split because that first group was strong like gorilla glue I swear

[@lebrown3301]

@@GodlyNatureYT I would respond, but you failed to write a complete sentence. Moreover, what was written, wasn’t grammatically correct. Perhaps the “bug” is in your autocorrect.

[@Monique-hg3ml]

Not at all.

[@byronhardy1577]

About time. Thanks Joe to help bring this conversation out

[@TRELL3132]

Brandon didn’t want to and don’t want to talk about this topic that’s why he was defensive and angry in the face. Brandon knows deep down he’s at fault for the breakup but he won’t acknowledge such

[@Nola2texas]

He said he didn't know what he was doing which is try every new business is a trial and area

[@Nola2texas]

Don't forget this isn't all B have stop thinking these dudes have one income they don't

[@TRELL3132]

@@Nola2texas it’s not about him not knowing what he wasn’t doing it’s about when it’s time to handle business and you handle it the wrong way you are at fault. It’s cool and understandable not knowing what to do but when he says he was emotional when it came to the money that tells you he didn’t handle that conversation the right way

[@TRELL3132]

@@Nola2texas it don’t matter if it’s their 5th or 10th stream of income business is business and it needs to be handled accordingly. Money is money and ppl don’t play about their money

[@Nola2texas]

@@TRELL3132 after a while went by and they started changing there mines is what he was trying to say. He tried doing everything the business way he knew but remember he set a meeting the other party didn't take it seriously so he kinda just kept going and just paid for the rest because the other two wasn't interested. But when the money came they started looking for there cut when they didn't do there part to make sure the paperwork was right. Remember they also said that they didn't take it seriously and they didn't do the proper paperwork. So let's not just blame B because they played a part too. As humans we all make errors but we also have to be understanding to each other also

[@KD_SWAGGER]

This is grown man talk that is needed more of. Salute to Joe Budden, Brandon Marshall and everything involved in this.

[@BossDini]

Agreed

[@KD_SWAGGER]

@@BossDini 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@KD_SWAGGER]

@@whodat5492 I'm talking about the convo, not what was done before. It's ok to reevaluate a situation and reflect on it like what is done here. To each their own though.

[@jco549]

Bro let's be straight up!!!!! Brandon wanted more because it was more of his vision!!!!! IAA did better than expected, and he wanted more!!! It happens all the time...

[@mitchy2311]

freddie should've took the original buy-in but he didn't so here we are

[@datdude1021]

@@mitchy2311 facts! It’s like the stock market. 35,000 will get you 20% of the company, but a year go by and the stock go up. Now that same 35,000 only worth 5% now! It happens in business all of the time

[@mitchy2311]

@@datdude1021yup he missed his opportunity. Not only is the investment worth less but now since there's more moving parts there's less percentage to go around

[@itsjrj]

Both of y'all can win... There is enough space for the both podcast. I watch both faithfully.

[@xaye24]

I agree

[@thesfa69]

Shady talking about being grateful the show was a super smash because of everyone not just brandon

[@bigdrews4360]

Right!

[@pumpkinseed1981]

Facts!

[@IAMNORRIN]

The problem is still Brandon. He always interrupting folks when they making a point.

[@carlostuckjr]

I appreciated this, it threw so many gems in the beginning within my own situation. I’m glad you guys were able to put it in terms of your own and I could decipher it in my own way to understand it

[@alexanderthegreats9011]

Show was never the same after that NASCAR series….

[@MoneyGangGuttah]

Is there and uncensored version of this I hate listening to muted parts in podcasts

[@georgeparker8198]

They actually talked a lot about it I can see the look on Brandon's face he can tell he made some mistakes, I honestly don't think he was totally wrong in the way he handled it but he definitely has to accept his fault in this breakup. I'm not sure he did this in today's episode, he was defensive but to be fair this is his first time talking publicly about it as far as I know. I do like how DJ frames this as a competition and I appreciate that. Ultimately those guys have moved on and Brandon has to do the same. I enjoy both shows personally and I don't have to put them against each other. I can like both.

[@EXPIredKUSH]

B been moved on lol that’s why he don’t talk about it.

[@mbtez6322]

Facts im so neutral

[@Hopkins8564]

THIS!

[@georgeparker8198]

@@EXPIredKUSH I mean he clearly seems to be getting emotional and defensive about he situation so...it matters to him at the very least

[@georgeparker8198]

@Randy Jackson I don't know about his numbers suffered dramatically and doing much better without him...that's hyperbole on both parts. But they are doing well and he's doing well. Both shows are thriving. I'm good with that.

[@juliandavis119]

Joe explained with a great analogy and that he was wrong

[@randystarks2690]

They all were wrong, None of them wanted to go Joe's route on his show.

[@J_Chris_B]

Hell yeah he was wrong Mal and Rory just wanted what they we're owed at the end of the day. I think what killed the pod was when Joe tried to snake Rory thinking Mal would be onboard but he wasn't.

[@IAMKC84]

Man.. go watch the breakfast club joint, they made it clear. It was about the treatment and how he talk down to them. Men have to respect each other. Chad made it clear "good business or bad business your not going to disrespect me."

[@tdotTIP]

I definitely don’t like the tone Shady taking through all this. He throwing lil slick shots whole time and that’s not even needed. Especially when he really don’t have a dog in the race

[@rlpayne58]

Forreal tho. Need to chill.

[@RV-de5gb]

💯

[@kristylove100]

Respect the conversation Kings. We live we learn and we grow. I see it's respect there even if y'all went y'all separate ways, but people have different visions. Keep pushing keep thriving, I like the new look and I support the show!

[@straightnochaser2450]

💯

[@demarcosmalls8966]

Pac was so insightful about his "NFL owner and fair treatment" comment. No team owner has ever treated a professional player fairly - No Fully Guaranteed contracts; Player Rights & Exclusivity; etc.

[@cotoniomoses3454]

I believe DJ really know what happened

[@timothy8484]

He did his best to not say anything too revealing but still question Brandon. Brandon clearly didn’t want to give it up

[@cotoniomoses3454]

@@timothy8484 yeah man dj really wanted to say what he really wanted to say but Marshall cut him off. But the hold situation is fishy to me.

[@malikbrooks173]

Why did Brandon keep cutting off DJ when he tried to share his thoughts 😂😂

[@trulyblessed2498]

He didn’t want DJ to tell what really went down because it would corroborate Chan and Fred’s story.

[@JDBass36]

Can you give me a time stamp Thank you

[@illmaticJJ]

Joe’s pod got better after the break up, Brandon can’t relate lol

[@miamihurricane36]

How TF Brandon Marshall had the paper work directly next to him 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kierreross4622]

Shady telling people to be grateful was a bit much….you weren’t there you don’t know what happened. Respect the situation and try not to be so biased

[@jordanwoodard8054]

They broke up that’s what happened. Everybody knows that. And he def know more than you he said what’s own his heart

[@jordanwoodard8054]

@@whodat5492 okay shady a millionaire wakes up everyday a millionaire but my opinion matters. He never said he wasn’t grateful he said we need to learn that word lol now chill.

[@khidrae]

Cap… we seen the Tralier , y’all got Deebo’d by that producer 🤣

[@tyreesmall757]

Big time

[@UnpopularOpinionSports]

It’s not just emotion it’s actually ego like Joe said. Call it what it is

[@peprallying]

🎯

[@Hifrequencymeditations]

The guys here talking about "they should be grateful" and "you won't talk to them cus I won't let you.." are just happy to be brought on to something that is already successful. But they know damn well they would feel a level of disrespect if someone who had a vision, brought them on, their presence is felt, they are now a vital part of the program, and then are told in so many words, "although we all put in the same amount, this is business, percentages change. All these other people also have to get paid" they (the new guys) would feel a way also. There was too much too fast, he was excited and wanted to do a lot, but these are grown men who invested their money into your vision, and it became something because of their personalities too, you don't switch up on ppl and then hide your hands when they question you.

[@tyreqbryant9731]

I wish BMarsh would let ppl finish their question & just ANSWER the questions damn!

[@br801]

The DownHill for B was having Omar Kelly in his ear. You can clearly tell he produces from a “Lets try to go viral” goal

[@kiiiké1019]

Shady is a YES man! 🤣 down bad

[@powaman5963]

🤣🤣

[@cassieY69]

Very much so! Mr Flip Flop! The name fits him "Shady"

[@molebogengm7456]

I wanted to slap him when he started insinuating how the original crew should've been 'grateful' just to be on this platform. TF he talking about? 😂

[@marquezshine747]

Dude basically told Brandon that he was wrong on some things and then Brandon started to get messy lol

[@jayshepp2217]

Wtf is wrong with Pac-Man lips. lmao 😅

[@marquezshine747]

@@jayshepp2217 I think he was chewing tobacco

[@molebogengm7456]

And unfortunately Brandon is too proud to admit his faults 🤧

[@ericag.7337]

@@jayshepp2217 I keep staring at it too. It's such a distraction. Like chew it; spit it out and don't put anymore in your mouth. LoL.

[@IAMKC84]

@@ericag.7337 🤣

[@JayJ1091]

Shady, DJ, nor Pac Man were on the panel back in the day. So I don't really care to hear their POV, before Brandon talks. So Brandon's comment about sitting back on the topic, I'm not here for it. He still being P.C.

[@stephenlacey5925]

Pac and Shady shouldn't have been there, they got in the way of what could have been a great conversation. Especially Shady interrupting everyone like he wants to be just like B

[@ricoandersonofficial]

S/O to Ocho for choosing to stay out of it on both sides

[@noPjusNUT]

I really like Shady McCoy, but this didn't feel like the conversation for him. Felt like an immature person involved in what should've been a serious conversation

[@doctordef324]

McCoy always wants to throw some smiley jokes into the conversation.. Which is off...

[@TheePotluck]

In the podcast world, PERSONALITY is the TALENT. Shady and Pacman < Channing & Fred. Be humble.

[@janaemiller1554]

Very true. You can’t put numbers up about what an audience naturally reacts well to. People loved the personalities and chemistry of the original four and trying to treat that the same as other business models isn’t always going to work by thinking to just pull new people in.

[@lamontgordon5389]

PAC take that dip out your mouth and get your thoughts together

[@koaltech]

DJ Williams got rev share because he had a valuable brand which gave him leverage that other cats didn't have...

[@corysworld6108]

I understand the passion B has. He really wants to do something great and he sincerely cares about it. It’s his baby and dream. It hurts when others don’t see it the way you do. You just want them to trust you. However, we gotta be considerate of the people who we bring on board. They’re helping us! Gosh I hate that this happened because they were on the incline through the roof. Brandon’s vision and passion along with that kind of supporting cast that is pure gold…. It’s gonna hurt for a long time. It’s most def a lesson learned for both parties. Just imagine what could’ve been.

[@stizzy27]

Man both of these guys are always the common denominator in conflict in their situations

[@kevinsmith6516]

I watch and support both and love them.. Ain't no versus for me..

[@rwingo3592]

Time heals a heart. Reconcile your friendship cause it hurt both family

[@anthonyfisher1733]

If y’all invested the same capital it still doesn’t explain why you (Brandon) are entitled to more

[@israelcarrillo6048]

Exactly

[@lindsaycuba8661]

Thank you

[@arvie89]

I think it’s because he owns the production company and the facility they record from.

[@CaSH187-0]

Because he’s a snake

[@jeremyseven9468]

I love that y'all brothers is out here doing everything you're doing. This is building better brothers out here for the ones who listen and take it seriously. Mad love👍🏾🖤👍🏾

[@groundtenpro]

This was definitely a great Podcast I'm not the biggest Joe button fan but he made some excellent points and he kept a cool calm demeanor unlike usual Joe who flips out every 5 minutes lol I also respect B marsh for not getting messy he actually went the high road and kept it on good terms

[@jarrodlewis9459]

I just want all parties to have a sit down and really brother up and wish each other the best.. these men have kids that would hang out and wives that became friends.. y’all show the world the we as black people can exist in the same space of success.. Please y’all..

[@Vmoore24]

Maybe the realest comment on here? Men are made to be logical. So drop the emotion and brother up as the OP stated! Don't let money come in between friendships. Especially when all of y'all had financial security BEFORE the show ever started! Show the world what true brotherhood looks like!

[@i.p.freely5974]

They shouldn't do it for our entertainment.

[@cotoniomoses3454]

I agree with this one

[@Poppa417]

Facts they talk all the stuff now it’s time to stand on it. Great comment

[@Pleaseopenyoureyes]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@johnlee4606]

Brandon said the percentages changed once the show blew up & you think that’s okay even tho everyone from what you said put up the same amount? If you reverse roles would you be okay with taking less % I doubt it also peep when joe said something about the original agreement you said nothing smh lol

[@CaSH187-0]

I was thinking the same thing

[@laurenp6818]

I wonder if they got paid even now?

[@cblackmanrun]

It was just something to do during the pandemic. They didn't discuss what would happen if it blew up or how much was put in. They didn't even get the option to put their own money in

[@teddyfla]

it’s not emotion, it’s ego. and business shouldn’t get in the way of that either.

[@shaelineelise7641]

I enjoyed this talk 🔥

[@marshawhite2670]

The ego mixed with male testosterone can have you soaring to top but it can also send you plummeting down to a lonely deep sorrow. I pray both sides will eventually make amends. Life is short