Joe Louis: The Training Methods & Lessons of a Boxing Icon

[@striperking6083]

The greatest heavyweight champion in boxing history

[@fsrsaa]

Agree. Class act too. Looked like a polo dog in that fedora.

[@striperking6083]

No doubt . Just look at video of Louis in his prime .

[@joshuajarod1909]

This should be archived by the Joe Louis Estate. A tremendous in-depth look at one of the greatest and most iconic boxers to ever live. Well done.

[@BoxingLife]

Thank you for the kind words.

[@mrcjrowe]

@@BoxingLife How would Joe Louis do against Mike Tyson if Louis started boxing in the same era as Mike in the 1980s ?

[@BrotherPatriot]

@@mrcjrowe We can only surmise but in my opinion...due to Joe's natural skills, his ability to adapt and his phenomenal ring I.Q...he would have flourished. For myself, I rank Joe as one of the best of all time, if not THE best. Don't forget...Tyson was savage yes, but he also failed & lost heart against the Big Names...Holyfield (x2) and Lennox Lewis (I don't count Buster Douglas). He also lost to some no names...Danny Williams & Kevin McBride (was Tyson's last fight, so understandable). Had the Brown Bomber not been forced out of retirement, his record would have been 56 and 1. But due to what the American government did to him, taxing him for his donations to the Army & Navy Relief Funds...the war effort...the IRS forced Joe from retirement. He still won 8 out of the 10 fights but he wasn't the same man as he was before. All he really had left of his old arsenal was that powerful left jab.

[@slidecounter5813]

1 of the greatest heavyweight champions in history 🥊 his punches was so accurate & he always had perfect balance

[@mervmervalot2296]

Some of his ko punches only moved 4 inches!!!!

[@Ali-nw8iz]

Joe louis lincomparable

[@Punchout101]

*The GREATEST

[@joshstevens4626]

no@@Punchout101

[@Wayf4rer]

To think he had the heart and generosity to donate so much to his country at a time when men were not equal, and then the government went after him for it is completely shameful. I know Joe is looking down with a smile on those who recognize his true legacy as a great boxer, and a great man.

[@BST-lm4po]

And to think that a German (Max Schmeling), who we are taught to despise and who we are taught to paint as racist, not only paid for Joe's funeral but was also a pallbearer. Seems like the "Powers to Be" are full of misinformation & prejudices!

[@RajSingh-lr7lj]

Without a warning we get treated to such a BANGER! Really love the legend behind Joe Louis. How he was the first black Heavyweight Champion after Jack Johnson and how his reign as champ made it possible for future black boxers to gain recognition. Really informative video, I can see how much effort you put into it, Jamie! Keep up the good work!

[@BoxingLife]

Much appreciated Raj! Agreed, one of the best to ever lace them up and set a path for future heavyweight legends.

[@ck5421]

His punch mechanics were perfect ❤

[@paysonfox88]

The reason I think he would beat Muhammad ali. It is because they both have the same hand speed. The difference is, Joe Lewis is punching with a whole lot more power in his fast flurries then Muhammad Ali. His power came from his speed. He was able to use perfect punch mechanics in order to shorten up and accelerate his hands

[@robrepublic1]

No one mastered the basics better than Joe Louis. ❤

[@castlesmack5659]

Balance and patience is everything

[@troutaholic8834]

Great video. Joe Louis was simply as close to perfect mechanically as a boxer could be.

[@MaddoxGanz]

His control of range, position, and balance is incredible. I will definitely take notes to improve specifically, my control of range, as it can improve a lot.

[@surgicalboxing]

Anytime I meet someone who asks me whose film to study I always go back to Joe Luis & fighters of those past eras. Nothing too cute, no wasted movements, masterful technical skills & incredible pacing

[@CousinJesse1]

His right cross in particular is something to be admired. I have tried (and still do try) to teach myself how to do it the way he does but to no avail, lol. I think it’s almost like throwing a shotput or tennis ball or baseball but not quite.

[@Pedro_Le_Chef]

I think he explains the way to do it in his boxing book

[@whatthatguysays7357]

Here's a few ways to help that right hand come out straight. Think about pulling your opposite shoulder back, first of all.. keeping ur lead hand at your chin. Think putting a cigarette butt out with your rear foot, pivoting will give your hips the twist they need to deliver torque. Stand beside a wall with your right shoulder almost touching it, throw the punch.. that'll train your elbow not to flare out, you can do the same for the jab. Avoid energy "leaks" and keep the full force traveling forward not out.

[@bossplayermfs5972]

To me the great Joe Louis is the greatest heavyweight boxer of all times, the man has 25 title defenses and 22 of them were won by KO’s. He held the title for 12 years and the during his time in the military he fought over a 100 exhibition bouts people are entitled to believe, feel, or think whatever they want to but i‘ll take any day a resume of a man like the great Joe Louis over any other heavyweight fighter. Ring Magazine rated him as number one of the greatest punchers of all time the International Boxing Organization proved to scientific studies that Louis is the best heavyweight of all times. Big George Foreman did a top ten greatest heavyweights of all time and Louis was his number one and even told Max Kellerman that in a interview it’s extremely sad and disrespectful that this great man is even mentioned as much as an Ali who made it possible for Ali to danced around the ring and talk crazy to his opponents and what he meant to BP in that dangerous and tougher “Great Depression “ era rest in power Mr. Joseph Louis Barrow #BrownBomber #Goat #HeavyweightKing 🐐 🥊 🥊 👑.

[@BrotherPatriot]

For me too...Joe is simply the Greatest. A real life American Hero.

[@vinniedixon1140]

The GOAT heavyweight. His 25 consecutive defences of the heavyweight title will stand for a very long time & will take one hell of a fighter to beat it.

[@ShawnFX]

Beyonce Wilder thought he can fight trash cans to defend his titles many times. Thank God for Fury to stop it

[@jabr0nicus]

in my heart he'll always be the heavyweight GOAT

[@paoloalcantara2465]

He is

[@johngerard3218]

The greatest pinpoint puncher ever in the heavyweight division. The yardstick by which we measure all heavyweight champs, past and present.

[@MaximusWolfe]

I think the guy who retired undefeated has to be the yardstick.

[@glynhannaford7332]

​@Maximos Wolfe That's a good point bud, Joe or Rocky? That's a long running debate to which there can never be a definitive answer. 😊

[@screwhead303]

​@@glynhannaford7332 There is no debate imo. Joe Louis is the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time. Rocky Marciano retired after only 6 or 7 heavyweight title defenses. How can anyone compare that to Joe Louis 25 consecutive title defenses? Plus, Joe Louis had way better boxing mechanics and techniques. Roc hit hard and could take a punch. That was largely his greatness.

[@melvinsims5379]

@@screwhead303 There is no debate Joe Louis was the greatest title defender of them all but he at 6'1 190 and Ali at 6'3 215 were midgets compared to the 6'7 270 pound Tyson Fury who by the way has the best jab since Larry Holmes.If either of them ever stepped in the ring with Fury he would have destroyed them both.Hell, Joe Louis got his head handed to him on a platter when Lightheavyweight fighter Billy Conn boxed his sox off.And Ali had 3 life and death encounters with the average jabbing ken Norton.Tyson Fury is the greatest of all time!🥊🥊🥊

[@melvinsims5379]

@@glynhannaford7332 Tyson Fury stomps both of those little, little men. Never forget the old boxing adage, A good big man always beats a good little man. Long live King Fury!🥊🥊🥊🤴

[@kmyattjr]

Honestly man I knew Louis was an all time great but until looking at the details I truly missed the attributes that made him great. Just wow. Great video man!

[@MarvelousErV]

💯

[@BenoîtKUZMA]

Hello from France, sorry for my english. This lesson about "balance" had litteraly change my life. Thank you so much Jamie and respect to Boxing Life for all your great work. Peace.

[@BoxingLife]

Thanks Benoit! Glad to hear this helped you. Peace to you too! 👊

[@jgatchaljgatchal8350]

Master the basics and you'll get far, not just in boxing, but in life.

[@mattjeffsdpt]

This was a great, loving tribute. Thank you for putting in the work to make it - and putting it together. Joe Louis was my late father's era - who was himself a boxer and fighter, too. He told me about Joe Louis in reverent tones. Now - I see why. I only wish he was still around, so I might watch it with him - and watch his eyes light up again - as he described a cultural hero from the WWII era.

[@BoxingLife]

Thank you Matt this really means a lot. Not surprised your father admired him. He is true all time great and we can still learn a lot from him to this day. Glad you enjoyed!

[@gesto70]

i want to thank you for your content. This reminded me that I need to make sure to get the roadwork in and also focus on balanced footwork instead of trying to be too fast with "happy feet". I really appreciate your work on this. The narration is great, the videography is very good and the editing is seamless.

[@BenoîtKUZMA]

All th sweet science resumed in one word : balance ! That's so simple and so pretty. Thank you again from Saint-Etienne (France).

[@tomdunn7710]

Joe would rule the cruiser weight division today .

[@crawdaddy511]

Inside the ring joe Louis was as smooth as tennesse whisky, the greatest of all time

[@chadwithautism]

Looking at his footwork it's very interesting how somatotypes, limb length etc. go in relation with how fighters can change subtleties in the ring and create opportunities for themselves. Sometimes I feel that it's beneficial to tear down and rebuild the fundamentals just a little. Reluctance can be sort of a double edged sword.

[@surfghost9121]

Fantastic doc. Thanks for creating this. Joe Louis was the most consistently perfect boxer ever, hands down. He didn't waste a step or a punch. A cold, calculating knockout machine. Loved the heavy bag spot. Small bag for a hw, and that right hand to the body - sheesh. Imho the second Schmeling fight is the most important in boxing history, followed by Johnson/Burns and Clay/Liston.

[@Confucius202]

First fight against Frazier was Ali's biggest fight. And Foreman vs. Ali is also historically bigger than his fights vs. Liston.

[@surfghost9121]

@@Confucius202 I think historically, Liston was Ali's biggest fight. The effects, like Louis/Schmeling, Johnson/Burns, went way beyond the sport of boxing. Clay was given no chance, Liston was considered unbeatable. One of the divisions biggest upsets ever, and began the Ali era. It was when Ali announced his conversion to Islam, which led to his renunciation of Vietnam and gave great momentum to the Black Power movement of the 60s. Frazier and Foreman were big wins for his boxing legacy and career, but the Ali saga, imho, starts with Liston.

[@Confucius202]

@@surfghost9121 yea but the fight between Ali and Frazier was promoted as the fight of the century. People who were adults back then say that it was the biggest sports event up until that point... Undefeated vs undefeated. Ali was also given no chance against Big George Foreman, who was not only considered unbeatable, but also 5x stronger than Sonny Liston. People were concern about Ali's life going into the fight. And the result was shocking... It literally changed how people look back at the 1970s era of heavyweight boxing.

[@mr.livoti9578]

@@Confucius202 I know, but my point is that the three fights I mentioned had implications to society itself, not just the world of boxing.

[@danielnelson3136]

Great video coverage of Joe Louis's training. Here I want to add another part of his training outside the boxing ring not covered, and that he used Charles Atlas's muscle training program called 'dynamic Tension', which has it's sources of inspiration form isometric exercises and old school strongmen in circuses bending iron rods and doing ridiculous feats of strength. IMO, part of Joe Louis's strength is less part training the techniques, but more in part training his mind muscle connection for those very powerful hits. If you look through the Dynamic Tension program, some of the movement patterns and positions that strengthens the muscles are similar and transferable to boxing movements, which IMO contributed more to the heavy impacts he can do besides the muscle coordination training he does for boxing.

[@scottmckee8783]

The first innovator of the 6 inch punch.never saw anyone who had a stronger short punch.

[@deansharpe7499]

The greatest heavyweight of all time and my favourite boxer of all time.

[@dominic6066]

Ray Robinson gave his prediction on Louis vs Ali/clay in his autobiography. In his mind Ali’s rope a dope style would result in Ali arms being broken vs Joe. The Cassius clay style would be better off. However Joe would eventually catch up to Cassius and stop him late in the fight. Just the Greatest Pound 4 Pound fighter’s analysis. 🐐

[@bossplayermfs5972]

Joe Louis was SRR’s idol he met Joe when he was 10 years old and Joe was 17 years old. SRR use to carry Joe’s gym bag for him both of them heading to Brewster’s Center and SRR said it hadn’t been for the great Joe Louis he wouldn’t became a fighter. And proof of this go type in SRR on his idol Joe Louis.

[@dominic6066]

@@melvinsims5379 u better read it again sims

[@melvinsims5379]

@@dominic6066Dommy, are you sure you're not delusional? I've read 3 books from cover to cover on Sugar Ray Robinson, Pound For Pound, The Life Of, and Sugar Ray. And in them, I saw no mention of Ali in any of them.🤔

[@dominic6066]

@@melvinsims5379 Sugar Ray by Sugar Ray Robinson and Dave Anderson Get to reading son

[@melvinsims5379]

@@dominic6066 I read that book.Must have missed that paragraph.Have to dig in the bottom of my closet to find and reread it.👍

[@BrotherPatriot]

GREAT VIDEO...!!! For me...a prime Brown Bomber is simply the best in History. His natural abilities combined with his ability to adapt along with his phenomenal ring I.Q...would have allowed him to rise to any challenge during his prime, in any age. There has NEVER been another boxer quite like him since and I dare say, we'll never see his like again. His original trainer, Jack Blackburn...really gave us something special. HOO-YAH & God Bless the Great Joe Louis and his Memory...!!!

[@BoxingLife]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. Agreed The Brown Bomber was truly special

[@abudujana13]

Thanks for the video, BOXING LIFE

[@jk28416]

i spent a couple of winters with a log fire in Norway, I chopped all the wood with an axe. Definitely the most physically demanding thing I've ever done. You chop a wedge, left side then right side then you are through the log, the 'hammer tire' thing doesn't really catch the intensity of log chopping. You soon learn that power has to come from the toes and be delivered by the core, quite amusing to be in the back garden -10 deg C with your shirt off because your sweating like a work horse!

[@mikekemper9566]

Yep what ali and shavers liked

[@SirSmizzi]

So glad I followed this page 🙌🏿💪🏿

[@josemucarselsacoto5122]

Thanks for another jewel champ! Keep up the good work! 🤜😁🤛

[@BoxingLife]

Thank you! Will do! 👊

[@MarvelousErV]

Another gem...... Thx for the informative fight perspective, & old fight footage! 💯

[@Just_a_Reflection]

Thank you for this. For some reason, I know less about Joe Louis than possibly any of the All-Time greats.

[@BoxingLife]

My pleasure. Hope you enjoyed and took from it 👊

[@gregpettis1113]

He was cus hero

[@jasminefaniel077]

My first time ever hearing about Joe Louis was through the movie COMING TO AMERICA. I took the time out to google who he was, what he accomplished and even what he looked like. It's truly sad that he's NOT talked about, honored, and recognized as he should be. The Greatest boxer in history. I think it's because how dirty the government did him is to why he is NOT well known like other greats.

[@clarkkent8286]

The greatest Heavyweight, PERIOD. Also, I love that you included the specifics of Louis' training routine

[@MaximusWolfe]

No, that is quite debatable actually. He is among the very best without a doubt.

[@stakschedd6724]

Great heavyweight Champion not the greatest

[@bossplayermfs5972]

Agreed, no other heavyweight has accomplished what the great Joe Louis has.

[@screwhead303]

​@Maximos Wolfe who and what would the debate be based on?

[@paoloalcantara2465]

Greatest HW champion definitely.

[@chriskim457]

Another amazing piece! Thank you!

[@BoxingLife]

My pleasure! Thanks!

[@genekostron7998]

Alright let's do this, my favorite heavyweight period,

[@surrealistidealist]

10:00 "Sprinting to sharpen the mind" -- Honestly, yes, I can certainly see this. I notice it in myself, at least.

[@powerplay4real174]

They was the perfect team Joe ,the trainer and the financial backer guy. A team of A Class 🥊🥊💯🎯

[@ANDREFAIDA]

THIS IS SO GOLD!! Thankfully u exist sir!

[@BoxingLife]

Haah thank you for the kind words. Hope you enjoyed

[@ybk927]

Once again your channel is amazing keep up the good work !!!

[@neomagneto84]

Best mini-doc I have seen on Louis.

[@BoxingLife]

Thank you. Truly means a lot!

[@mertk.9136]

Banger Both the video an Louis

[@Kusurigamaj]

This was AMAZING!

[@WildDisaster]

What a beautiful video. Thank you for putting it together.

[@BoxingLife]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@davidluckens3479]

this video captures the essence of Joe Louis-he may well have been the best heavyweight ever.

[@philipansa4568]

He is boxings greatest champion

[@qizrquacolaban8813]

The Brown Bomber is #1 on list of greatest Heavyweights

[@calel7724]

pause, but he's the defintion of a natural. has the best heavyweight physique ever, tryna build like him

[@Atsutane77]

Thank You for this video mate! Really comprehensive picture about the Brown Bomber and his trainer. Highlighted that no tricks but the daily regime the boring stuff makes the fighter eventually the mighty one. I have learnt a lot. Cheers,

[@BoxingLife]

My pleasure! Great to hear you took something from it!

[@Pedro_Le_Chef]

Such a thorough and informative breakdown. Joe Louis was the best.

[@the.dove.effect]

Great video! Love Joe Louis. American Hero betrayed.

[@toddfrancis8428]

Excellent work. A must see!

[@edandkarendamadio4108]

Joe Louis was a great combination puncher. He featured the "old one-two", left jab-right cross. He took all comers in his career.

[@rockymarcianobrasil317]

Joe changed boxing. And intelligent on the canvas.❤

[@erikmorales17]

What a channel glad to be here at 71k. I play soccer but also use aspects from other sports to help me in mine

[@BoxingLife]

Thanks Erik! Welcome!

[@TonyDeanDrums]

I'm here and I play drums. Greatness 🤝Greatness

[@BrockOLee4real]

Thank You sir , And Thanks to the great Joe Louis

[@gregorybatman]

Awesome video, Thanks!!!

[@BoxinghHstory]

I really appreciate your work brother it was a great video on the greatest offensive fighter of all time Mr Joe Louis and yes he would have given hell to any heavyweight not in this but any Era. Respect

[@Brandnewshoes]

This was brilliant 🥊

[@xGhostRidah]

Do Sugar Ray Robinson next.

[@powerplay4real174]

The Great Joe Lewis , I'm glad his mom encouraged him to continue as a boxer 🥊🥊 He was the greatest my grandfather said 🥊🥊💯

[@YHWHChokhamh]

Love these videos

[@Hellserch]

Very good, mini documentary. Well researched and insightful commentary.

[@BoxingLife]

Thank you! Appreciate the kind words!

[@Hellserch]

@@BoxingLife Yes. I appreciate the attention to detail and how you make it applicable to the viewer. No mystification or bluster. Great voice btw. Which helps.

[@vicvega3614]

Dam what a great video, just happened to find your channel, professional quality 👏 now to see if you have a "hands of stone" video

[@BoxingLife]

Thank you Vic. Unfortunately not yet, but I do plan on something this year.

[@bkk_savateur2437]

Excellent!

[@glynhannaford7332]

This is a superb piece of work.

[@andreasmau9686]

This video is amazing. Nothing less👏🏻

[@wildmanz8233]

Love these vids of Champs from back in the day!

[@koreymatthews7137]

Such a great video! Could you provide a list of the music?

[@miragef191]

My favorite fighter,real hero.

[@Drive1979]

Very worthy. Well done 👍

[@berriasgordy8835]

Look at Joe Louis an doing the traditional simple workouts work

[@albertobencivenga2966]

Thank you for the video, very interesting, great storytelling and edited very well. In response of your question I think that Joe Louis would definitly compete with Usyk, Tyson Fury and Wilder and probably would win against all of them.

[@MikeS24-v4s]

15:22 look at that guys feet compare to Louis. I believe Joe Louis could compete with the fighters of today because of his simplicity.

[@entwouanne]

beautiful thank you!

[@Mr313PATRIOT]

Incredible analysis ! Thanks !

[@interestedparty7523]

Your content is excellent.

[@karlangelfrank]

Even though Muay Thai isn’t boxing its kickboxing, can you please breakdown a Muay Thai training regimen? It’s very interesting to me.

[@calmwater2529]

You do great work.

[@sureshchauhan3263]

There is not a single video on ameature boxer training routine in KZbin. Can u please make one on general training routine of Olympic boxers.

[@ashleyf.8910]

A great lesson from the past.

[@GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd]

Best finisher ever in HW division. When he got you in trouble it was over. Ray Robinson and Ray Leonard two other great finishers

[@reneepatterson3035]

I think Joe would have dominated in our time.

[@vinniedixon1140]

I beg to differ as the heavyweights of today are far bigger and would use the extra weight to their advantage. No way would Joe dominate Fury.

[@josenieves62]

Most definitely would he got ko’s against guy over 240lbs and actually lifted off the ground … also the rules today are a piece of cake compared to joe era they use to be able to jump back on a fighter with no standing 8 count none of that shit…shit was way more brutal also they guys today are too outta shape and flabby back in the day they went 15 rds

[@Pedro_Le_Chef]

@@vinniedixon1140 The fact that modern heavyweights are so big would work in Louis' favour. He'd have a big target to punch and no one can survive a sustained beating by Louis. He broke Schmeling's back.

[@billystone8204]

Amazing work Jamie on the best heavyweight ever imo Louis the best but Ali the greatest for everything he did and stood for 🥊life 🔥

[@BoxingLife]

Cheers Billy! I’d probably have to put Ali 1. Louis & Marciano 2 or 3. Hard to pick.

[@Ali-nw8iz]

Pas sur car sil qvais pris la droite de louis il se serais pas relever comme un soir de mars 1971

[@screwhead303]

​@Boxing Life why do you rank Marciano so high when he only had 6 or 7 title defenses before retiring? Also, compare Joe and Rocs boxing mechanics. Joe mechanics are light years better than Roc imo.

[@billystone8204]

@@screwhead303 it’s probably because he retired undefeated but imo the great fighters he beat were all way past their prime

[@screwhead303]

@@billystone8204 Facts!!! I just posted a lengthy comment breaking down Marciano's notable fights against those great fighters that were past their prime. Check it out if you can. ✌️

[@carsonjamesiv2512]

OH YEAH, LOUIS was A MONSTER❗😎

[@Rinkydink73274]

My favourite boxer of all time..

[@alcosmic]

Terrific!

[@chrisrowe6340]

He's so wholesome he stated golf as one of his major vices. Can't help but love that

[@Maurice76746]

Thre heavyweight division is so lame today, ther'ers not a lot of skill, and Joe was very skillfull, so yes i believe he could compete today.

[@brianvesta]

Joes Louis would be able to complete with todays cruiserweights but he would have to beef up abit to be able to hang with the top level heavyweights...But Louis had power and a economical style he didn't waste too much energy in the ring so I could easily envision a heavy big Louis doing well as a heavyweight in today's eara....

[@stanleyf9923]

great video

[@The_Void_Staring_Back]

Even most average boxing fans of the modern day don't really give enough respect, or truly realize how incredible of a feat it is to defend the heavyweight title *TWENTY FIVE* times in a row... with 22 of those being KO's.. I highly highly doubt I will live to ever see that record even get close to being matched.

[@Merciful_Munchies]

One guy I’ve always been curious on his training is Micky Ward I’ve not been able to get that much info on his training.

[@cory6002]

Dude was working 40 hours a week shoveling concrete haha. He attributes that for his left hook!

[@Merciful_Munchies]

That’s interesting I would love to see one of these videos done on him.

[@MAMII-ks2qg]

👏👏👏👏 Excellent.

[@paulcooper5748]

The Brown bomber much better than the bronze bomber.

[@surrealistidealist]

Louis would go through today's giants like a hot knife through butter. They wouldn't have his speed, stamina, technique, timing or chin.

[@coachingconfidant2785]

louis didnt have a good chin. Schmelling wasnt a big puncher.

[@surrealistidealist]

@@coachingconfidant2785 Louis was only ko'd twice in his decades-long career. Schmeling ko'd 40 opponents, injured Louis' eye early on in the first fight, which Louis didn't train for and was terribly out of shape. Because Louis didn't fix his problem with leaving his jaw open, Schmeling was able to land his overhand right over 100 times. It's hard for anyone to take all that in such condition, especially when you don't see the punch. So Louis definitely had a great chin. Abe Simon and the Baer Brothers tested it very well, among many others.

[@coachingconfidant2785]

@@surrealistidealist yeah that is true, but that is not because of his chin. His chin was barely tested, and the two times that it was tested. He was knocked out

[@coachingconfidant2785]

@@surrealistidealist baer barely hit Louis, and was a shell of a man. Holding back his power after killing a boxer in the ring

[@surrealistidealist]

@@coachingconfidant2785 I can grant for the sake of argument that Max Baer may have held back even against Louis after killing Frankie Campbell and possibly Ernie Schaff. But what about Buddy Baer, who had more first-round ko's than Jack Dempsey? He knocked Louis down in the first round of their first fight, which went 7 rounds (before Louis knocked him out in the first round of the rematch). Plus 19 rounds in 2 fights with the massive Abe Simon, after getting staggered by Tony Galento (who had 57 ko wins). He had 26 total rounds with Jersey Joe Walcott. He went the 15-round distance with Ezzard Charles in his first fight after retirement. And then in his very last fight against a prime Rocky Marciano with his own insane ko rate, Louis suffered only his 2nd ko in 69 fights. If that doesn't show a great chin to you, then please tell me who was tested better. I'm sure there are a few, but not many.