Black Christians vs Black Muslims | Middle Ground

[@jubilee]

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[@vincentlester9684]

One of the most annoying ads I've ever seen on this site. The bar slows down near the end and that Cailiou looking nerd should never be in front of a camera again

[@vincentlester9684]

Bros probably in his mid 20s and dressing like a little kid

[@alexbr550]

Do an episode of children raised by lgbt parents and children raised by the straights.

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

Who gave you this bad idea?

[@DefaOmega]

​@@alexbr550To what end? Unless either group has children whose parents hated them for their choices it'll likely be unproductive. And even if they are it'll be terrible and painful, presumably

[@Ummh25]

They need to bring pastors and Imams, so that people will get more knowledge. Both group need more studying about their faith and there is so much to learn every single day about our religion. As a Muslim I learn every single day

[@tutorialsforyou3981]

and this is why protestants exist

[@abigailaig]

Yepppp

[@MrsIdontMiss]

Yes I was actually disappointed no scholars they brought for Islam.

[@bilalmuhammad4544]

Agreed

[@NuhaHabila]

Yess and they debate each other❤

[@LadybugMaraj]

Omg who ever chose this idea is messy af 😭😭😭

[@onmyjourney7189]

No I’m glad they did this. Many Muslims don’t know the ideas of Christianity and many Christians don’t know the ideas of Islam.

[@HamzahKhan-sn5zt]

Fr

[@efe6153]

numbers 31:18 deuteronomy 21:10-13 22:28-29

[@mleaniex]

Real messy

[@lothegoat-e6r]

deadass bro 😭

[@aidasall4815]

The Muslims in this video were so much more informed & respectful throughout the entirety of this conversation - and I’m saying this as a Christian.

[@isasooner5]

Unfortunately, the difference between the Islam/Quran and Christianity/Bible, Islam/Quran put the most emphasis on being educated on other religions, people, societies/civilizations, nature, the earth and the universe. Historically the Christian civilization don’t really study much outside of Christianity. As the Islamic civilization for millennia has an entire tradition of studying EVERYTHING, on top of all the Islamic sciences!

[@thalady7726]

@aidasall4815 really ? Christian ? Aaah Aida tamite !

[@BruceBanner-u8z]

They were misinformed about a lot of their religion. They made claims that simply don’t align with Islam.

[@DheetLarka]

Black Christians were amazing... I have some black Christian friends and they are very loyal to their religion and i respect that as a Hindu

[@rehenabegum9732]

Im a muslim but how the christians less respectful?

[@darliqo]

Watching this makes me realize how much we all have to learn about each other’s beliefs. I’ve been diving into some great books from Darliqo, and they’ve really opened my eyes to things I didn’t know about Islam and Christianity.

[@Toxus8]

Uhm.. no?

[@Crazythings-e5b]

No thanks

[@samxxv8443]

uhh self promo or wha?

[@Crazythings-e5b]

@@samxxv8443 yess

[@kaanaksu9201]

it would be much better to get actual people who are specialized in the religions to debate, like real Islamic scholars and Christian priests. People can add their own views or lack knowledge about a certain topic. This would also be better for the people who watch the video to understand the religions.

[@jaiquanboykins13]

I think thats the point you kinda wanna see where the average practitioner of each religion stands

[@Yourhighnessnona]

Exactly. The muslims didn't represent Islam. It was a very overly secular, sugary version of Islam. The Christians, too, were coming from a very weird place. They didn't even know a slightest thing about Islam, making it obvious these were just random Christians that have no interest in theism as a whole. This was an empty discussion.

[@terryosteen8378]

I think what you are suggesting is so much more interesting because theological debates are better when there are experts because people tend to put personal experience into debates and that gets annoying

[@kaanaksu9201]

@@terryosteen8378 exactly, i'm here like "omg what are they saying, it isn't even true"

[@michellestella7477]

Yeah but jubilee is trying to be entertaining and shocking. Even if they disguise it as trying to help find connections and the middle ground. One brings in a lot more views than the other

[@18kayyy82]

Dont know why the girl on the Christian side was so rude with the constant eye rolling

[@3ampremiere782]

It was a long day. I spoke with her after and got to know her more those were misconstrued

[@tumosetswammung9961]

Don’t be shocked. That’s a true sign of a Christian. Treating people with derision

[@Berriyes]

@@3ampremiere782 Always making excuses...

[@keifer7813]

​@@3ampremiere782 We know you're her. You ain't fooling us 😏

[@DoPeMaN60]

Which one? 😂

[@vixen910]

One girl didn't even know how to pronounce "Islam", how is that supposed to be a productive debate? Please, choose people that have knowledge in the subject! 💜

[@HigumaHoney]

maybe she thought it was pronounced like island but islam. then corrected herself when she heard the muslims pronouncing it as it is. lol

[@thyneighborsdonkey]

its jubilee get used to it lol

[@tutorialsforyou3981]

@@HigumaHoneyseriously 🤦‍♀️

[@MuMasoo]

​@HigumaHoney Nah, her attitude the entire time tells you all you need to know.

[@thatarmyblink9002]

Pronunciation might differ in a way like in our country we say it like "Izlam " then others say "Islam" but spelling is the same

[@eks779]

As a Christian I’m shocked on how uneducated the Christian side was🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Silver_79]

I’m not…..most of the professing Christian’s I know have almost no scholarship or discernment in the word…..It’s a turn style of my pastor said or my elder said…..Laziness.

[@smooth2477]

I am actually surprised that you are shocked. Majority of Christians have even lesser knowledge when comes to religion than this group

[@merg-vh5sx]

​@@Silver_79You know the wrong kind.

[@AfroSunGoddess]

​@Silver_79 honestly they are not grounded in scripture. the questions did not even require someone to be a theology major😅

[@Lil_Robya]

Bruh it was just one Christian

[@goop1401]

Messy religious debate on a Sunday okay jubilee

[@sophspice32]

this is such a jubilee move that nobody should be surprised honestly

[@Sanjay-fy7ql]

you mean monday

[@Seen_not_heard]

@@Sanjay-fy7qlnope. It’s Sunday where we are.

[@Black-sh9ko]

@@Sanjay-fy7qlIt’s Sunday 😂😊

[@lothegoat-e6r]

@@Sanjay-fy7qltimezones bro, sunday for me

[@nobitnnn11]

It was incredible how much Muslims knew about Christianity, and how Christians knew so little about Islam. At 7:27 girl does not even know how to refer to the religion.

[@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή]

Brother the video was posted 12 mins ago and its one hour+ video. Don’t judge so fast

[@efe6153]

fr. especially considering that the muslims were massively washed and didnt even know their own religion properly

[@chrisjohnson5581]

Generally people from Abrahamic religions outside of Christianity have deeper understandings of their faith.

[@nobitnnn11]

@@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή I agree, maybe i spoke too early. We will see

[@flexermc4333]

That's because christians don't know their religion the way muslims know theirs.

[@clatbomba]

"It's not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts"

[@jazmynelane8767]

Facts

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

What is the punishment for apostasy?

[@taylorwatermel0n]

@@PROVOCATEURSK The Quran tells us that apostasy’s punishment is hellfire. Sharia laws ~may~ give death penalty, but it’s also important to know that not all Muslim countries have the same Sharia Laws. Quran 2:256 states, “Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood.”

[@Cbari92]

Ask Mulsim Lantern on KZbin?

[@Samballbellachanz]

@@PROVOCATEURSKwhat is the punishment for being a spy against your country ?

[@bigHoh]

Muslims seemed more grounded and logical tbh

[@stanbily9416]

Both still ungrounded and illogical, though.

[@brib7037]

Islam is so straightforward and logical. Its so unfortunate how people turn a blind eye to it

[@annagatler8372]

That's because Islam is a religion of logic and justice. In our religion we are pushed to doubt our belief and search about it. We are also encouraged to know about other religions. Like that we will be more sure about our choice.

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

@@brib7037 Flying donkeys are logical? Splitting moon in half is logical? Unaliving your daughters and daughters for apostasy is logical?

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

@@annagatler8372 So why don´t the children of muslims have a choice? Why are they forced to islam? There is no logic and justice in that. Tell them about all the options at 25 and let them choose.

[@oceanjewel4373]

I’m agnostic but I was very impressed by the Muslims here

[@حارس_شاہ]

Please be careful though because the guy in the blue shirt is Nation of Islam which is a VERY different thing to actual Islam, most of us Muslims don’t believe they are Muslim because their beliefs are VERY extremist. (Sorry for my bad English, it’s not my native language)

[@ABDULAZIZ-p3e5z]

How even I being a born Muslim was shocked after hearing their nonsense response like they don't even know the basic belief of Islam they have learnt more about Christianity than the basic belief of Islam

[@HairLessBush]

Cope lol ur not Muslim😂😂 If u think against them.

[@opinionatedteen9839]

sister i recomend muslim lantern on youtube and feel free to up and ask any quastion

[@abdullahchaudhry1709]

@@opinionatedteen9839 Yes I agree, he is one of my favorite da'ees. Him and Shaykh uthman bin farooq

[@chrisjohnson5581]

Yall should’ve brought on Christian’s who also know about Islam, can’t have someone on who’s quoting things from the Quran that’s not there.

[@MXHMustafaXHorror]

The idea is to bring the average black muslims vs the average black Christians, this are your average christians

[@qqqalo]

Jubilee doesn't care about actual debate. Having a true intellectual conversation isn't entertaining to the vast majority of people on KZbin, so will simply lead to them clicking off the video. Jubilee is a company which wants to make money. If you actually want to learn about the topics, read a book.

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

​@qqqaloplease say it louder

[@ThePastaManCan]

Thought the same, they were either very misguided muslims or just lying to prove their point on every question... last guy spoke about christian slavery as an extreme but its always been practiced in the middle east.

[@chrisvallejos6115]

i think i know who you are talking about and he should've been invited on!

[@jokerofdestruction]

The muslim brother in the blue shirt just gave such a peaceful vibe. Great video!

[@mspears_bobobuddytheseniorcat]

I really liked him too!

[@charlesmaddox8551]

He's an imam, well studied of the religion

[@KingKing-ru2qd]

He was yappin. Saying a lot without any meaning

[@charlesmaddox8551]

@KingKing-ru2qd He had a lot of meaning to me, but I'm muslim so I understand if the meaning doesn't resonate the same with non muslims. I've noticed that with interfaith discussions that we often look at somethings through different lenses, which to the other doesn't make any sense.

[@jordannemclean6467]

Obsessed

[@christians7071]

Don’t forget that the point of Middle Ground is to bring average civilians together to talk and provide discourse. Purposely including an entire panel of imams and pastors isn’t the point of the program. If u don’t recognize that these people aren’t the all-encompassing representatives of their roles, then there’s some outside maturing that needs to be done before yall comment

[@ramisarazi3772]

I think folks are worried about the power of misinformation and misrepresentation of thoughts and ideas. However, I do think it is the viewers responsibility to think critically and perform their own research after watching a video. So, all in all, I do agree with you. It's interesting to see what the average person thinks, and I do like the format of these videos, but I think it would be helpful and interesting if Jubilee was to fact check some of these points with scholars throughout the video - similar to their political debates - in maybe a part 2 video? or even with a fact-check text bubble

[@ViperblueHD]

Laypeople should never have their stupidity platformed. platforms should be for experts and learn-ed people

[@SYEcHiiLZ14]

The big guy and the blue shirt guy were the most calm intellectual individuals out of the group. Stating facts and logic and not preach. Very calm and collected.

[@riwilliamss]

Came here to say this. Likely comes with maturity.

[@iceloli-rn3pu]

The blue suit guy is a genius

[@ajam-n3s]

Hes NOI from what I know​@@iceloli-rn3pu

[@stanbily9416]

@@iceloli-rn3pu No he is not.

[@Dee-p6v6g]

They’re highly misinformed.

[@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή]

Jubilee please make a Europeans vs Americans episode Also the guy in the extremist question really said that Christianity has more extremists and mentioned examples that have nothing to do with the prompt and examples from centuries ago 💀

[@peterbatcheller4570]

Commenting so Jubilee will see :)

[@specticent]

european white people vs american white people would be fun to see.

[@sahandforoozanfar9069]

W

[@rotulaman630]

Tbh it would narrow crazily to only those who speak English confidently enough to be there... Personally I'd love to participate tho hahaha

[@PeterJordansonn]

Americans vs Russians

[@JibrīlNasirRose]

I wish this debate included Christian’s who actually knew the Quran. This was such a surface level discussion that had way more potential

[@zain6930]

I think the whole point is to invite people who are surface level in knowledge tbh, not scholars

[@supertenor561]

Why would a Christian know the Quran unless they were formerly a Muslim

[@MsPizzazz85]

Its also really relatable as well for a person who has listened to both types, I still can not see myself with either SET. So Contradictory Homosexuality is an Abomination not a Sin

[@therealfatou]

the fact that your name is jibril & you’re chistian is sending me 😂

[@wyzou7380]

oh they brought casual muslims instead of the ones u hear about in ur medias ?

[@Sunlova]

I am not Muslim nor Christian, however, I have immense respect for the Muslim community. I see them in the community protecting and feeding the the people here in L.A. Always so respectful and kind🙏🏽 (not saying christains don't) that's just what i see and my experience 🙏🏽

[@kristianoleg7113]

As norwegian i couldnt be more agree with you. Once i have a muslim family neighbor in Oslo and they were the most generous people i've ever known. Now i live in Indonesia the largest muslim country in the world, and i can feel the atmosphere. The people are so nice, kind, humble, very tolerant among other relegious beliefs. I hate what media saying about muslim. I feel bad and i feel sorry for my fellow muslims around the world.

[@Heimerh]

Muslims are so respectful ❤

[@abdullahchaudhry1709]

As a Muslim, thank you for your kind words 🙏

[@Sunlova]

@@abdullahchaudhry1709 you're very welcome :)

[@congondubz6257]

You guys are delusional ‼️👀

[@beefcake08]

as an atheist, one thing i really admire about muslims is how knowledgeable they are of their religion. compared to the christian side they seem like einsteins.

[@be-dog-free]

Really? Look at the Quran vs the Bible, the Bible is way more complex. It takes years of studying. The Quran is significantly shorter than even the New Testament.

[@jadenisiah]

That's because those Christians aren't real Christians they just like the Christian aesthetic. It's called religious psychosis 😭😭

[@salahuddinkakar6681]

lmao these 4 muslims dont even know the BARE MINIMUM.

[@JOUJOU.m3]

Ikr ,i really love muslim people ❤

[@ABDULAZIZ-p3e5z]

Maybe they are knowledgeable of other religions but that is not the case for Islam for them

[@fia908-i4b]

10:22 being a PEAK example of prioritizing comfort over truth. “I can’t get down with islam because my salvation isn’t guaranteed”. You seek a “get to heaven free” card and not the one true religion. Notice how that isn’t even an intellectual argument against the faith but an emotional one.

[@djokampungtz2108]

Resurection of Christ, undeniable historical and logical point. Point. Case.

[@ChristianWelch-rq9rv]

I agree like shouldn’t it be without the work and not the reward

[@fia908-i4b]

@@djokampungtz2108 A. Doesn’t negate my statement like at all in the slightest it’s laughable B. There aren’t nearly enough reliable witness accounts of the resurrection C. The books that claim he was resurrected + witness accounts are proven to be improperly preserved I’m not about to have a religious debate in a youtube comment section, have a great rest of your sunday☺️

[@djokampungtz2108]

@ source at least?

[@keifer7813]

True, I've heard that from quite a few Christians. But Muslims often do a similar thing. They'll say "Islam (or all religion) can't be false, because then life would be meaningless" - comfort over truth

[@princesjasmyn]

I feel like the Muslim side had individuals that were more knowledgeable about their own religion and knew more about Christianity than the Christians knew about Muslim. I side with Malcom X much more than I side with Martin Luther. Martin wanted acceptance from whites, Malcom wanted black people to accept themselves and do better for THEIR community.

[@MrBjoern91]

Malcolm X was a reactionary racist that used a twisted version of Islam to gain a following from black Americans by manipulating them. Islam is an Arab-Colonialist ideology that promotes war and slavery, and black people have been its main victims.

[@GojosMiddleFinger]

Stop you have zero clue what Malcom x ☓ nor MLK wanted or what they were actually fighting for. They both want the same thing but had different approaches to the problem

[@keifer7813]

Probably because Christianity has been entrenched in African American culture far longer than Islam has

[@guts7518]

@@GojosMiddleFinger they didnt want the same thing but YT isnt the place to debate. So I'll hush..

[@BodaBodaMc]

Malcolm wanted acceptance from Arabs some people can claim. I side with Martin More than Malcolm

[@Mrman-vi2ul]

The Muslims are soo much more humble and more knowledgeable, they even know the Christian religion.

[@dinant12345]

Mohammed owns black slaves

[@c.williams4583]

probably because it was their background, being from the US.

[@TRI-STAR28]

I'm a Muslim from Trinidad. This debate was definetly not needed. Race should never matter in religion. All races have the freedom to follow whatever religion they want. Kind of bad on jubilees part to set up this debate in the first place.

[@BeyondMagical]

How are muslims doing in Trinidad?? Is there any religious tension at all?

[@fozianoreen3495]

Ikr 😂 this is such a strange debate Lmfaoo

[@estephaniap9027]

Oiye Trini! 👋🏾 Baje here. 😊

[@Ibrahim-1234]

I'm also a Muslim, and that was my thought exactly. It seemed like an attempt to create division. A theological debate is one thing, but this kind of discussion shouldn’t involve race. If anything, Black people should focus on unity as their shared values are what truly matter in a shared community.

[@cactus1296]

As an Indonesian muslim I also got confused with this episode lol. What is jubilee trying to say???

[@AverageSuperrhero]

I thought the “all adds up to four” was a profound way to explain religion. I’m not religious myself, but I really appreciated that way of thinking.

[@bluecat7684]

Weird he said it when it contradicts Islam completely

[@afnanj]

Can you timestamp I must of missed it and I don’t think I understood it

[@emjae2]

@@bluecat7684 where in the video did he say that

[@savesheikhjarrah1480]

Not all paths lead to the truth when the fundamentals of different religions contradict. You cannot get to monotheism from polytheism

[@AverageSuperrhero]

@@bluecat7684 I interpreted it as whatever brings you peace and your own divinity. You get there your way, in the end you’re achieving YOUR higher self, that’s the 4.

[@iv8923]

the muslims were more open minded and level headed. the christian’s seemed to come on to the debate not wanting to hear something above their opinion. with the body language it’s really clear who’s level headed. from this group specifically anyway.

[@3ampremiere782]

I was on this episode in the beige thobe. Trust me the Christians’ were very respectful and easy to talk to. We all talked afterwards and had a lot of common ground.

[@handfuloflight]

@@3ampremiere782 MashAllah

[@youragronk6208]

​@3ampremiere782 are you part of NOI (nation of Islam the sect)?

[@youragronk6208]

Also do you know the guy in blue?

[@3ampremiere782]

@ super warm and welcoming guy. Gives great leader energy

[@janaiahlenay2803]

As a former Christian, this makes me want to take a closer look into the Muslim faith…straight out the gate I was so triggered by the Christian’s. Muslims seem way more chill

[@raffiqzin]

When looking for answers, make sure to confirm it with actual knowledgeable person like the imams from the nearest mosque. They'd be more than happy answer any question.

[@Iwasth3person]

Why did u quit being Christian 🤔

[@Kkaaa83]

you are always welcome to ask questions abous ilam and i will answer them the best i can

[@Idkbroitsmee312]

You will find a lot of beauty ❤

[@Idkbroitsmee312]

Please read “secrets of divine love by A. Helwa” ❤ it is an intro into Islam

[@alexandriasyi0]

I love the way the Black Muslims approached each quote with grace and tranquility. Not with judgment and aggression like some of the members on the Christian side.

[@Sarah_Stephenson]

Understandable, please know that these people do not represent the entire faith♡♡♡♡

[@kaylzzzza]

I feel like accountability, responsibility and judgment are all different experiences and really need to stop being generally conflated by people

[@00carl46]

If you think those are real muslims I've got some bad news for you lol.

[@patrlcksreaLView]

What about when Moe Moe had black slaves?

[@elizabethpaulsen5895]

womp womp

[@CatholicCanada23-vi5rx]

You should have Catholics vs Protestants debate

[@humanbeing8400]

Yes! They always group us together but we might as well be from different planets.

[@CatholicCanada23-vi5rx]

@@humanbeing8400Yeah, the Protestant lady said purgatory doesn’t exist and that triggered me as a Catholic. Protestants can’t speak for most Christians cuz the vast majority of Christians are Catholic

[@HigumaHoney]

catholics and protestants share similar values, but are two different belief systems. the very label of protestant is kinda derogatory, as it implies a subgroup protesting against the catholicism.

[@CatholicCanada23-vi5rx]

@@HigumaHoney We might share similar values with Protestants but we have different perspectives of salvation or how prayers work. And the Protestant lady in the video said "we don't believe in purgatory". Well, for 1500 years, Christians believed in Purgatory - she is "protesting" against the long-held beliefs of the Christian Church

[@katelynduerr]

@@HigumaHoney bruh catholicism and protestantism are two sublabels of christianity, just more specific. neither is derogatory...?

[@rootsgod]

I love the way the Muslims handled the first question. Very respectful.

[@emma-zu9xx]

Bro, they didn't even answer the question. Be forreal 😂😂

[@mikepictor]

They absolutely answered the question.

[@SoldierofGod123]

As a Christian I’m embarrassed of the display of these “Christians”.. so self righteous.

[@stratiskey]

@@SoldierofGod123 its scripture, if you disagree that's on you.

[@nancyfancy1956]

@@SoldierofGod123Scripture is clear.

[@Livelaughandlearn]

All humans are descended from Adam and Eve. Mohammed PBUH said “There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab, or of a non-Arab over an Arab, and no superiority of a white person over a black person or of a black person over a white person, except on the basis of personal piety and righteousness "

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

And why does he want to punish apostates? Doesn´t he love his children? Does he hate free will?

[@Livelaughandlearn]

@PROVOCATEURSK we are not children of Muhammad peace be upon him. He was the last messenger . Read the Quran and you will find your answers .

[@Ahki_AbuBakr]

That was put in place because people like ex muslims LIE about leaving the faith. ​@@PROVOCATEURSK

[@estevo1111-n4u]

Aren't Jews described as descended from apes and pigs? And don't they believe in punishing and beheading apostates and infidels?

[@justice5897]

And even back then they couldn’t get along

[@randomplaydo]

Although I'm not religious, one thing that has always stood out to me about Muslims (speaking generally) vs. Christians is that Muslims by and large are VERY knowledgeable about what's in the Koran, the context, the history, the facts and the interpretation, etc. They're encouraged to read and learn and ask questions, and the end result is they very often KNOW their religion front the back. Can't say the same about the average Christian. Not even remotely. At best I may find someone who knows a lot of verses by memory, but have no true understanding of what those verses are talking about. They only know what their pastor has told them the verse means and they accept it fully, without question or thought.

[@weidchar1646]

I don't think this is true at all. For one Muslims only have one book to study, whereas Christians have 66 (at least the protestant canon). 2, you'd be surprised by how many Muslim memorize the Quran, barely knowing any Arabic. In much of Africa, I know this is the case. Probably North America and parts of Europe as well. Most Muslim also don't know the context behind most verses in the Quran. The scholars? Sure. But not the every day Muslim. Dawg, I don't know where you got your info from, but it's faulty.

[@ammaranwar5343]

There are several reasons for this. For one, Islam, particularly in the west, is so politicized that Muslims have been encouraged to read a lot in order to defend their beliefs. Post 911, and the insurgence of political Islam and Islamic extremism factors into this. Second , Islam is the state religion of several countries, and the lack of separation between state and mosque means that many aspects of our lives are shaped by the religion regardless of how practicing we are in our personal lives ( ex mandatory hijab laws in Iran, apostasy laws in the middle east, marriage laws in south Asia) . This forces us to examine our religion in a way that the average christian may not have to. Thirdly, month long rituals like Ramadan and Muharram involve giving more attention to the Quran, serving as yearly knowledge boosters for the community. I'm not sure if Christianity has an equivalent. Lastly, I think the fact that we have 3-5 mandatory prayers daily, forces us to reflect on our faith at a deeper level. This is all just my observation as a Muslim.

[@saigie3908]

Catholics & Orthodox Christians looking at this comment like 👁👄👁

[@samtv6447]

Have u spoken to orthodox Christian’s before because anyone can repeat hearsay’s but doesn’t make it true like how Muslims claim go to other countries and judge well don’t be speaking anything u witness in ur own country go toe africa and Asia orthodox Christian’s especially u will see great knowledge and don’t jump to conclusions that Islam is true because even Jews pray 3 times and read their Torah and knows it but still yet Islam says it’s false but can’t even provide any sort of fact that refuted them just depending on a book that came after the fact. Don’t follow the public do ur own research watch Sam shamoun on shamounian channel judge carefully of the journey u want to embark on don’t just assume it’s correct .

[@Shockguey]

​@@saigie3908 Bro, these people don't know. They wouldn't know what a Janissary* or a Houdi** is if you mention them. *Christan child soldiers taken away from their parents to fight for the Caliph **Eternal virgins who are deflowered in Islamic heaven

[@fmjjjjn7510]

As a Somali, I admire my muslim black American brothers and sisters, much love 💕🫶🏾🇸🇴

[@Ciilow24]

Waryaa 😂

[@punti9019]

Uff no need to put Somaliness in to this.

[@IsmaAragto]

See tahay 😂😊

[@fmjjjjn7510]

@@Ciilow24😭😭😂😂😂

[@Nebiyu135]

Which clan are you?

[@Rated_Fenty]

Posting this on a Sunday is diabolical😂

[@nashi._.7563]

Fr 😂

[@HigumaHoney]

it doesn't mean they were filmed on a Sunday.

[@Rated_Fenty]

@@HigumaHoneyclearly comprehension isn’t your strong point… where did I allude to this being filmed on a Sunday?

[@smelly1060]

Probably on a Friday😂​@@HigumaHoney

[@ano-momo]

@@smelly1060 🤣🤣🤣

[@iamnaz_]

They need to stop giving weird looks when muslims are talking its so disrespectful

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

Religions teach people to hate other religions.

[@shimmer4771]

​@@PROVOCATEURSKno, it doesn't.

[@ysltobi3701]

Exactly! Not Christlike

[@jerrrythemouse]

I wanna see Nation of Islam vs Islam after this

[@micellaragua]

What’s the difference? /g

[@realfunnybunny]

Then, Nation of Domination vs Islam

[@Hknasw]

@@realfunnybunny Then Shield vs Nexus

[@Ava-so7vv]

As a Muslim can you briefly explain the difference? I never heard those terms before

[@Hknasw]

@@Ava-so7vv It was a wrestling joke. Those are teams in wrestling

[@chaoticjoker247]

I thought the Christian lady in the white tee was ready to fire off some knowledge based off her facial expressions/body language and said nothing. She didn’t even know how to refer to their religion. So she just wants to be argumentative 😂 7:37

[@rayinchrist1]

You didn’t even finish the video and are already judging lol

[@chaoticjoker247]

@ catching feelings because I spoke on what I saw, aww here’s some tissues 🧻

[@zeeplay2924]

​@@rayinchrist1how do you Know maybe he watched it and he can judge free platform

[@Afrogirrl]

⁠there was no huge argument at the beginning

[@chaoticjoker247]

@@rayinchrist1 and..

[@simelane]

As an atheist I always find it humorous that Muslims read the New Testament but Christians don’t read the Quran. You cannot claim Truth when you wilfully refuse to read the books of the major religions. This shows in how shallow the Christian panelists’ reasonings are.

[@SM_MEX]

These guys don't represent all christians just so you know

[@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή]

You think that the majority of Muslims have read the New Testament? The majority, especially in Muslim countries, haven’t. And its natural honestly

[@aaronmcclain8037]

Hey. Panelist here. I read the Quran and the Hadiths.

[@terrie6738]

Whether they have read the New Testament or not, they do not believe in the New Testament. So even if they have all read it, which I highly doubt, as most religious people haven’t even read the whole bible on their own, it wouldn’t make a difference on their beliefs. It is a waste of time to study something you don’t believe in.

[@phd_phd]

Find it funny how Christians read Bible (which’s not New Testament only) and Quran and muslims dont even reas quran still butting in the debates

[@historian3290]

Muslims definitely seemed more with it… Christian girl kept rolling her eyes didn’t help her at all… What happened to the love 😂

[@gianniclaud]

Ngl, the Muslims seem way more grounded and level-headed than the Christians.

[@khaleelorwhatever]

Research Islam with an open mind and heart and I promise you'll start to realize it.

[@lordronn472]

Yeah because they are not in a Muslim country! They are not being honest here clearly!

[@arifbakar3719]

True.

[@omara6693]

Your kingdom is of this world, and their kingdom is not of this world…so you would feel that. They are not from this world.

[@malazficent]

@@omara6693 Thats because the muslims are actually correct and the christians are just talking non sense

[@EvaSaid-d1o]

I don’t know if ppl are aware, the Nation of Islam is not mainstream Islam, it is an idea limited to America as a response to the injustices that black ppl went through. if you generalize the title as “black Muslims“ those should be different people not members of the Nation of Islam

[@rehenabegum9732]

Ppl keep saying this but im pretty sure theyre all sunni? Even if the were part of NOI none of their answers went against the orthodox belief.

[@alphapanda2854]

​@rehenabegum9732 nah, nation of islam isnt islam. We dont believe in elijah mohamed.

[@Threezi04]

Only one of them was of the nation, the guy next to the lady.

[@haiitosa2254]

All of the answers align with mainstreak islam, even if they are from the Nation of Islam.

[@thenellierose]

Yeah, there's definitely a distinction to be made there but they stated they weren't currently Nation of Islam. It seemed like they touched on it a bit but maybe those were cut out because it's kind of a tangent...

[@jidf32]

*Loved how these guys literally and openly challenged the framing and divisive nature of the prompts, prompts based on the most controversial stereotypes. Jubilee was looking for fights and the participants did not take the bait*

[@character6ix]

Bro this! This whole video was beauty , the only side you could take is the basis of your own religion. But we as people have foreseen the divide and I believe we are overcoming the struggle of division in terms of faith. I don’t see ignorance nor bias, I see black people in mutual ground of Love from their individual faiths

[@ajam-n3s]

Look into who founded this org

[@jidf32]

@@ajam-n3s Jason Lee. What about him?

[@lukassanting7506]

What makes you think Jubilee was looking for a fight? Very unnecessarily aggressive negative presumption

[@jidf32]

@@lukassanting7506 Tell that to the participants of the Middle ground because they also called it out. Are your going to whitesplain it to them?

[@sunnyraindrop582]

ok so this has been one of the best, most peaceful, and insightful episodes of Middle Ground. Loved every bit of it and the entire panel!

[@luisfilipe2023]

Why do so many Americans not understand the concept that there’s an entire world outside of the USA

[@Ummkelechi]

I think that can be said of most people…most people don’t leave their home countries.

[@luisfilipe2023]

@ but we are aware of them

[@zacharyo.484]

They do, people like you like to continually revive this stereotype to make Americans look bad and make you feel better about yourself. Either you are a non-American who was taught from a young age to make fun of Americans to make yourself feel better about your own county or self-loathing American who probably apologizes about everything.

[@f0rxp3rt36]

because of the way the US is, the us is a similar size to all of western europe and we have a bunch of people all in one country. you could genuinely one week go and a skiing trip then one week later go get a tan at a beach while not leaving the country once. majority of even rich people in america dont travel outside america because they dont see a point considering 99% of people have never been to each state considering theres 50 of them + Guam, american samoa, puerto rico, and probably a couple others im forgetting.

[@nonapplicable9590]

Why are y’all so bothered by this? Genuinely asking bc I don’t understand

[@artekkerz16]

You just get this inner feeling of peace whenever the brother wearing the blue shirt talks

[@Thrivinbwoy]

I don’t

[@wombmanibringlife2649]

Alhamdulilah! That is the former Imam of our Masjid in Atlanta, Atlanta Masjid of Al-Islam. Imam Rashad Abdul-Rahmaan also has a youtube channel.

[@Sanjistars]

Just shows how respectful and peacefully Islam is and wish more knew about it and our lord without the media stereotypes 👏 love how the Muslims handled this topic

[@kaoshi_kutie]

It’s not a religion of peace , sorry

[@dystmaspera.1560]

u believe they represent true muslim? cmmon, the most hypocrites person are muslims. they can practice taqqiyyah to anyone😌

[@meezuswest1781]

Why don’t Muslims want to live in Muslim countries?

[@mm-pb9fs]

Question: Can non-Muslims enter heaven? In the video, your people did not answer the question.

[@dystmaspera.1560]

@ they hide it, they wont tell it. or they simply doing taqqiyyah and ppl forget abt it😂

[@ratanatomy8929]

yall the point of this series is they choose average people, not scholars/academics. If you're disappointed about the lack of education of the people on your side, you should have a think about what that means

[@Swaggles1228]

I really wish the hijabi woman spoke during the question about religion valuing women. Her position would’ve cleared up a lot of misconceptions about hijab and Islam being “oppressive”

[@phi4721]

Islam oppresses women and hijab is forced upon women. You're just coping

[@rehenabegum9732]

To me it seemed shes not as educated which kinda dissapointed me cus she was the only woman on the muslim side and also I feel like her takes are more liberal but she didnt speak much so i cant say for sure

[@ajam-n3s]

You can watch other episodes where they speak about hijab this is a very very tired stereotype at this point

[@ajam-n3s]

​@rehenabegum9732 that's extremely rude maybe you should speak better of others as a South Asian and Muslim.. .

[@ijanurjannah1144]

This is answered in Qur’an 74:38 this is talking about Free will

[@pimp1111]

The amount of ignorance and hate in the comment section is ridiculous. This was the most civil jubilee vid I've ever seen on such a nuance discussion that didn't feel patronizing and cringe unlike most of there other vids

[@character6ix]

Yes this video was beautiful. Neither side gave surface level truth yet answers to questions that invoke reflection in one’s own personal opinion.

[@saram217]

Muslims are more knowledgeable but its a shame Christians dont know their own bible

[@Thefinancegirlie]

You know whenever Black ppl are involved, people are always gonna find something disrespectful and hateful to say.

[@emjae2]

literally

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

@@saram217 Knowing the bible leads to based atheism.

[@estes1022]

Wee need White Christian vs White Muslim....ooo this gone be interesting.

[@heba-o6u]

ooooh

[@n.a3642]

That would basically be Muslim Reverts vs Born Christians (statistically speaking)

[@jamila442]

That would be so interesting.

[@kordei-7839]

I know it’s about to be disrespectful from the white Christian side

[@කාවින්දවිජේසිංහ]

WOW!

[@Elisa00x]

Islam is so straightforward and logical. Its so unfortunate how people turn a blind eye to it

[@koketsomogashoa9015]

It's not

[@sumaiaahmed8076]

​@@koketsomogashoa9015mad?

[@EnneSicksTeaPhore]

Well the violence is a really big deal

[@niyaniya7530]

Hmm

[@Ukraine_446]

Uhm... No

[@ArtsyField]

As a Muslim, I really dislike the muslim panel. Some questions are very straightforward and can be answered to using the Quran verses. No feelings or thoughts involved. For example, homosexuality IS a sin if you act on it. The feeling is not a sin. Simply put. Second, there are extremists in every religion. You can't necessarily blame the religion. A Muslim extremist would still be an exremist if he was Christian. Third, when discussing black people and women's rights, the Muslim side could have delved into specific scenarios where ISLAM helped black people and women and regave them their rights! Everyone's arguments were based on personal views. Actually show proof from the scripture instead of tiptoeing around the answer.

[@ajam-n3s]

Who disagreed with what you wrote

[@dinant12345]

Why prophet Mohammed owns black slaves ?

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

You don´t see christian extremists flying planes and punishing apostates and doing to women what Taliban does, do you?

[@feefs2139]

Yesssssss 👏🏼

[@smooth2477]

They were trying to please so hard that they miss the whole question. Some of those questions were simple and straightforward

[@Seen_not_heard]

7:50 I’m buying a Koran after watching this. I had one as a kid (mom is Christian and dad is agnostic but had interest in Islam when I was a kid). I want another one, any suggestions?

[@kingdavid4115]

I think you should do a Christian apologetic training and understand doctrine true

[@msaalz]

yes, go to your local mousque and try to research more.. also theyres digital qurans online!

[@CelineMitchell]

The Quran Project I’d recommend! Very clear English

[@zahraaalhabeeb2121]

I recommend the clear quran its made easy to understand especially for non-Muslims.

[@ahmedabdelbagi7985]

There's something called the quran project where they will give you a quran for free if you're a non muslim translated in english with an explanation in each page!

[@KRUGISH]

I wish there was representation of Black Catholics because that first question is very different for Catholics vs. Protestants

[@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή]

Whats the difference?

[@terryosteen8378]

@@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστήthere are different denominations, so they have sometimes radical different interpretations of the Bible. In fact, Protestant is too liberal of a representation of the denomination because there are so many denomination within the denomination

[@lamb12777]

​@@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή Not all Christians are fundamentalists

[@rayinchrist1]

@@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστήpurgatory

[@zeeplay2924]

​@@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή that's what I wanna know

[@Legalacademiabussinessbuzz]

20:47 why did no one talk about how in America in the past black people where put in a separate church than white people. This never happened in Islam by the way

[@Pancakegr8]

But Muhammad owned black slaves, so what’s even off the table at this point.

[@c.williams4583]

What similar setting could it be compared to? It's a different scenario.

[@Rated_Fenty]

The guy in the blazer made some points but sheesh he took up so much of the talking time

[@haroldbrown893]

Preaching

[@jeyrnaj]

Agreed.

[@Pancakegr8]

They all do that 🤦‍♂️ idk why they have to preach for so long.

[@VenStarrr]

As a Christian, I really enjoyed the conversation and education from the muslims brothers (also the christian guy with locs). I really appreciate the black nuances in both. Great video!

[@Arya_pointy_end_stark]

Love a respectful Middle Ground episode. And how the panelists pushed against questions which were meant to be divisive in order to come together. You can tell from the comments who watched the whole video and who did not.

[@aaronmcclain8037]

This is EXACTLY what happened!

[@tshedzamatodzi8420]

I agree 100%

[@keepitreelcatfishing5883]

“Christianity began in Palestine as a fellowship, and then moved to Greece and became a philosophy. Afterward, it moved on to Rome and became an institution and then to Europe where it became a culture. Finally it settled in America where it has become an enterprise.” - Sam Pascoe

[@kiaq1153]

interesting.... will have to come back to this and read into that. Palestine was called many things throughout history, but for sure Palestine for the longest. In 2024, my heart goes out to those in Bethlehem.....shits scary for them.

[@feachica]

christianity began in Israel.

[@Ahki_AbuBakr]

Palestine has been around for a long time lol Israel didn't exist due to romans ​@@kiaq1153

[@benyseus6325]

Wasn’t called Palestine at the time, it was called Judea.

[@muslimgirliess]

@@benyseus6325 and Greece was called Hellas. fun facts for everyone!

[@riojxreaper2463]

The way the Christians responded to the first question is why I feel overwhelmed and afraid to go to church lol

[@theoddgamer7147]

Afraid of what? I haven't went to church in months and I still fail to understand what you're overwhelmed by..

[@onmyjourney7189]

You suppress the truth in unrighteousness

[@raoulajay98]

​@@theoddgamer7147 your reply lacks empathy and kinda proves their point

[@rayinchrist1]

They said the most basic beliefs ever which almost every religion believes including Islam, if that alone scares you then everything will.

[@jonseilim4321]

@@theoddgamer7147 1:27 "There is no middle ground", from a Buddhist perspective that statement alone is so extremist, no wonder the United States is all like "if you're not for me then you're against me" like damn, wtf is up with you all

[@cricketflightstar]

For me, the fact that all of the Christians stepped forward for the first prompt and none of the Muslims did is so telling to what we tolerate from Muslims vs Christians. Edit: Also the Christians looked so confused whenever the Muslims were speaking and it was so clear they'd never met a Muslim in their life

[@19523G]

wdym?

[@Afrogirrl]

Never met a Muslim? That’s a huge assumption, especially because it’s one of the biggest religions in the world.

[@cricketflightstar]

@Afrogirrl It's an exxageration

[@cricketflightstar]

@@19523G I feel like when a Muslim does something it's considered as jihadist but when a Christian does something it isn't. I'm not super educated on this topic but that is what I have noticed

[@luciferadoresme]

​@Afrogirrl i think they meant that they stayed in their communities and didn't engage much with other communities. at least that's what i assume by their comment and what makes most sense to me

[@apeyayo2391]

The 1st question showed me all I needed to see lol

[@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή]

Do you expect them to lie and twist their religion so that they please others?

[@apeyayo2391]

@ ???? You have low comprehension and it shows!!!!

[@kingkoop7326]

Exactly ​@@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή

[@K.w897]

@@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστήits the fact that the muslims don’t even know their own religion, yes you have to be a muslim to go to Paradise

[@johnsmith-ti9yz]

The Muslims didn’t even answer it the correct way lol

[@wowisers]

Jubilee needs to do a British black people vs American black people middle ground

[@MindsetTime2024]

They should get the ghetto ones too

[@ruby5136]

I don’t know how to feel about this video as a Muslim woman …. But for information about Islam I recommend watching several videos of the Muslim lantern on KZbin He gives many explanations on questions non Muslims have and addressing claims,misconceptions,and curiosity about the religion in general within scripture and etc !

[@AnonymousBr1t]

‘Muslim Lantern’ is indeed very knowledgeable on both the Quran and bible. Would recommend him also.

[@KaTya24434]

Mohammed Ali from Muslim lantern is amazing.

[@bluecat7684]

Muslim lantern is actually so amazing

[@yournumber1189]

They dont want him in this channel he will take the spotlight

[@naviifra2374]

Why whats wrong?

[@imanbashir-mi2zx]

no one asked but let me say i'm proud to be muslim. i'm muslim before being black. i identify by my faith. i still love being black but at the end of the day, i can't pray with my non muslim friends and that's crazy and sad tbh

[@g-man6775]

are you a member of nation of islam? I really want to talk to NOI members.

[@MujahidDomov]

@@g-man6775I’m a member of bangin ya moms

[@dreamy.izzy26]

To say “if you don’t want to be with me then you’re not going to be with me” is just ridiculous cuz saying that is different then saying “if you don’t want to be with me you’re gonna be in a place of eternal damnation” instead and THAT is what he is saying

[@keifer7813]

Yeah religious people often sugar-coat their horrendous beliefs. Like yeah ok, I deserve to be tortured for eternity for a finite crime - if you can even call rejecting a fairytale a crime.

[@faith_myopinion6888]

Both those statements are true, actually. He says if you don't want to be with me, then He wont force you, but unfortunately for us, not being with Him is being in eternal damnation because there's no in-between. Like the young lady said, there's no purgatory.

[@betteryourlife865]

He said it gives you an option…but how’s that an option. It’s either love me or go somewhere that will torture you for eternity. That’s not optional 🤣

[@francisbonnafoy307]

Well that’s an arrogant take. Do you think that it would be fair to put people who want paradise and worked to be there by abstaining from sin and people who wanted their own pleasures and comfort in the same place…

[@roxrox1897]

@faith_myopinion6888 If someone is pointing a gun at your head, and asks you to do somethjng? Do you find that to be coercive?

[@selma.inlog10]

Honestly I noticed that the Muslims are way calmer and uderstanding in terms of listening to the other sides the Christians were making faces and interrupted them multiple times , like if you are going to be offended by discussion of your religion why come here in the first place?

[@artekkerz16]

That Muslim brother wearing the blazer is very intelligent and knowledgeable. Kudos to him 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@curiousformula]

The Christian side did not mention that the only anti-slavery movement historically in US was Christian led, Black and White. Also, Black Christians identified as not just Black but African way before Islam in America, hence the African Methodist Episcopal Church, the oldest organized Black church in America. THE AME Church built Morris Brown And Wilberforce Universities, several K-12 private schools, hospitals, housing way before the Nation of Islam. We have to acknowledge facts when we have these conversations, not knock off history. The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad did not change MLK, King was already writing books and making speeches about his evolution two years before he met with Muhammad and it was a 20 minute meeting.

[@aaronmcclain8037]

I did, it was cut out for some reason.

[@BetterThanKanye]

Christians were also the ones doing the enslaving in America so I would hope an anti-slavery movement would come from within..

[@why-ge7cr]

​@@aaronmcclain8037 they already had a agenda in mind to make one side look bad tbh, just myself thought

[@Raxs0G]

There’s Muslims that grape boys in the name of Islam today and kll them does that mean the book of the Quran? Maybe but what I’m trying to say what you said is irrelevant and clearly the people who you referred to didn’t read the bible as if they did it would condemn their actions

[@mrdada210]

Nation of Islam is not Islam.

[@lukehunter1849]

thought this would be insanely dramatic and messy but as an agnostic who grew up christian, it rlly did teach me a lot about Islam. very educational video! and i'm glad yall got so many intelligent and respectful speakers compared to how these middle grounds usually go

[@smelly1060]

Ayy my brother in fence sitting😂 what made you not go full atheist

[@saramayoun6126]

Lowkey it was really sad to see how uneducated the Christian side was on Islam, which I think took away from a huge potential of them having really interesting intellectual conversations about things instead of clearing up very basic misconceptions for a large majority of the video.

[@freekickman7644]

this taught u NOTHING about islam. These “muslims” know nothing about the religion and have done it a disservice with their ignorance

[@lukehunter1849]

@@saramayoun6126 Fair point. I guess I'd count myself as part of the group that was relatively uninformed about Islam so I definitely still got value from the discussion. Though I agree it could've gotten more philosophical than it did. Really I blame the prompts for desperately trying to force them to be divided on certain things though

[@kordei-7839]

@@saramayoun6126 I’m not even surprised that’s literally 90% of conversations with ppl who aren’t Muslim. They make a lot of assumptions

[@samialauria7175]

Next time let’s have scholars, pastors, Imams, authors, etc who not only practice but who are knowledgeable of both faiths. I would love to see this convo from that lens.

[@feefs2139]

💯

[@adefilaomotayo2300]

There is one already by the the channel SMAADallas. It was a very interesting conversation

[@captinknight2116]

realll

[@IWLNIF]

I agree.

[@Bird1-r2n]

1:17 I am neither Christian or Muslim but the first question just shows how open Muslims are❤️

[@lordronn472]

No, it shows that they are not honest at all, they are saying what people what to hear and not what Islam says! Imagine if this debate were in a Muslim country? Do you think they would be so ''open''?

[@ryanelee]

Christian are being open when we witness and preach the Gospel because we want everyone to make it to Heaven. With that said the only way to Heaven is through Christ. That’s what the Bible says. So, again us preaching the Gospel is us being open because we are saying you can make it to Heaven too.

[@lordronn472]

@@ryanelee trust me, had this debate taken place in a Muslim country, these Muslims would have given slightly different answers! It is always easy to live in a country and in a society that does not officially(or even unofficially) force a religion on you and be so ''open''! Next time they should do this in Indonesia or Afghanistan, let's see how ''open'' these precious Muslims will be

[@hollysimmonette8085]

they believe people who leave islam should be executed, how open ❤️

[@sayfmalik6417]

​@@lordronn472im born muslim and i thought some muslim panelist would agree to the prompt but after hearing em i forgot that if an individual never heard anything about islam then they'll be judge accordingly from their life so its quite contradictory if the muslims agree with the prompt

[@jacobjackson-fx9gx]

The true middle ground should be unconditional love for all, but so many conditions.

[@Someone-vr7me]

Because unconditional love doesn’t and shouldn’t exist what .

[@mikeldurant5249]

there will always be conditions, no creature loves unconditionally

[@jacobjackson-fx9gx]

@@Someone-vr7me why not?

[@Someone-vr7me]

@@jacobjackson-fx9gx you should love people under conditions . You should have standards . If you love people while having no boundaries then you lack self respect.. closest thing to unconditional love is a mothers love to her child but then again that also has its limit under certain circumstances

[@universal1771]

​@@jacobjackson-fx9gxBecause it just doesn't. Are you telling me that you love someone no matter what they do.

[@ChristyLuisDostoevskyinSpace]

This was the most gentle discussion, I loved it. Thanks. As a Christian ☺️

[@Monohassan]

Rashad is so logical and can explain complexity in such a unique and simple way. He speaks without emotion, just sources the deen.

[@kangkhita]

Please do vegans vs. vegetarians!

[@axa5005]

ooo I'd like to see it

[@rootsgod]

And put me on

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

I don't think that will be interesting because they are almost the same

[@Bobbyheebee]

@@jeffersonhassan4558as a vegetarian, trust me, vegans and vegetarians are frequently quite different.

[@brandalynveail808]

bring vegan parents too

[@hero4963]

This was amazing we need White Christians vs White Muslims please like this so Jubilee can see

[@inspectorgadget247]

👏🏼 that would be epic! Should the white Christians be catholic or Protestant, Mormon/latter day or Jehovah witness?!

[@hero4963]

@ lol didnt think that far lol

[@heyloji]

Jubilee, please do a middle ground for android vs apple fanatics

[@Mr3121996]

Oh this would be a banger

[@QueenSinger]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 yeeeessssssssss

[@judemorgan1798]

Hardcore this!! My friend and I are going through this!!

[@justme-dm7sb]

It would be everyone tapping on thier phones to prove a point and we would get nothing from it.

[@Berriyes]

this would be sooo messy & Im ready for it💀

[@waqti21]

Just clarifying for people who don’t know: Nation of Islam and Islam are not the same thing and are fundamentally very different faiths.

[@jawadnoor2298]

Please do Arab Christians vs Arab Muslims for next episode.

[@muzziemulti]

i love how respectful everyone was in this discussion

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

It was a show for the cameras.

[@garryo6523]

I like that this is a conversation filled with young people dedicated to their faith.

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

Those young people had no choice as kids.

[@shahyawar3709]

Do white Christians vs white muslims next

[@projectdavid5109]

No WAY they got Nation of Islam people for black Americans instead of normal Sunni brothers 😭

[@bluecat7684]

LITERALLY 😭

[@inspectorgadget247]

Next time they have a casting call sign up 😅😅 can’t complain if you’re not willing to go on the show… these are regular viewers just like *YOU* be the change you want to see!!

[@haiitosa2254]

They are sunni, everything they said aligns with sunni islam

[@hoijhjmbgresg8844]

Brother don’t assume unless they said it. They seem very knowledgeable Muslims

[@blackmenwomensuperpower305]

@@haiitosa2254 "spaces for gay people" is a sunni concept? Wow that's new.

[@zakiyacarter3714]

Jadesola talked herself in circles at 39:00. She agreed with the prompt but said she disagreed. Girl!

[@rehenabegum9732]

Yes im a muslim but she made me cringe a bit

[@kadianedobor1715]

The brother explained really well how sticky of a question that can be.

[@achrafel9828]

What ya mean​@@kadianedobor1715

[@chrisb9996]

Can you include video with Black Jews in it too? Black Christians vs Black Jews or Black Jews vs Black Muslims

[@nacirema2710]

We have to include all the other hundreds of religions as well.

[@chrisb9996]

@@nacirema2710 If you want, go for it lol. I'm just interested since I'm a Black Jewish person.

[@mohammedal-rawi3420]

Jews don’t believe in propagating their religion, they simply don’t feel the need to invite black christians and muslims to be jewish, it would be a boring video.

[@tamiausten873]

​@@nacirema2710 it's Abrahamic religions. These three have overlapping stories, prophets and doctrines. There are Jews who are Christians, as in like the disciples of Yeshua who practiced Judaism already, they just believed Yeshua is the Messiah spoken off in the Torah.

[@brandalynveail808]

@@nacirema2710just the abrahamic ones 😹

[@aretharenika1581]

The only thing that annoyed me was how closed minded the Christians were. I’m a Christian myself but I love hearing and learning about other’s beliefs. I think the conversation would have been much better if it were had with more open minded Christian’s.

[@lilren2021]

@44:09 Preach, Marquis!! As an agnostic, I like the Muslim speaking out against Christian nationalism! Thanks bro!

[@fawziyajaffan1518]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@Bellajoie24]

You don’t understand the concept of Islam at all… their sole purpose is to always over power so if you are a woman and you looking the Islamic way then I feel sorry for you because you will never be valued.

[@aryastark19]

As if Islamic countries secular democratic paradise

[@Mr3121996]

I used to be in the Nation of Islam. Grew up in it, and my dad is still apart of it. I can appreciate what it has done for the black community, I've personally seen people on hard drugs clean themselves up and put on a suit and tie. I'm no longer in it because of the dogma and indoctrination, which I see in Christianity as well, but I can always appreciate people trying to lift society up.

[@IncredibleDude11]

Nation of Islam isn’t Islam, full of indoctrination and more of a cult

[@roz0971]

Is Nation of Islam different than Islam in general?

[@Shekwhdkwlna]

Nation of Islam is not Islam, that’s it own thing

[@IncredibleDude11]

@@roz0971 Yes. Nation of Islam was something created for the Blacks of America during the Civil rights era. It includes beliefs like the divinity of Elijah Muhammad and racial doctrines that contradict Islam’s universal message of equality. Islam, based on the Quran and Sunnah, teaches strict monotheism and that Prophet Muhammad is the last messenger. Malcolm X was part of the Nation of Islam before learning the true Islam when he traveled to Mecca

[@Bluee033]

@@roz0971thats a mis placed word, its just islam as a religion to follow There's nothing as nation of islam its just called islam

[@BillytheConquer]

What is the Muslim in the light blue jacket talking about? Christianity was in Ethiopia way before Europe. Blacks were Christians before Europeans were. Christianity isn't a white religion!

[@bang0utsc]

Speak brother louder🙏

[@aamna145]

Islam did not exist for Blacks in America (the descendants of slaves) until the Nation of Islam. He is 100% correct.

[@MichelleBruce-x7f]

Still doesn’t make it a black religion . It originated from the middle east

[@exsims1307]

Yes Christianity was in Ethiopia however that is east Africa and just one simple country when it comes to use west and south Africans then the religion was usually forced on us by the Europeans

[@Ray03595]

It's a Middle East religion. Not an African one. It's a confirmation you've been brainwashed and conquered nonetheless. For black Americans our ancestors slavemasters literally stripped them of their original beliefs and gave them a version of Christianity that justified slavery. It's been used as a tool to control people for thousands of years and is nothing more than that.

[@ebyanahmed5430]

This just showed me that Islam is a open and welcoming and respectful of other people religion and don’t look down on them even tho they may not agree that’s peace of Islam.

[@Dominknows]

Yea its kinda sad how crappy our Christian brothers and sisters continue to represent themselves and the faith.

[@sumer3270]

this is a crazy debate because why would you include a christian who doesn’t even know if the religion is called muslim or islam like ???

[@Thrivinbwoy]

That’s an unfair argument and doesn’t really do anything

[@sumer3270]

@ huh

[@remzzz912]

@@Thrivinbwoy how is it unfair? How can you argue against something you don’t understand?

[@luckii.__17]

@@Thrivinbwoy No, it shows that Jubilee needs to stop taking people who are threads away from not aligning with their teams in the video.

[@alistairt7544]

Lol these videos aren't meant to help people understand each other, they're just meant for people to hate each other more, and to rile up the audience. Jubilee be making bank on people being divided *french kiss

[@newblue7183]

I haven’t completed the video yet but so far it’s really peaceful and helping me understand both sides

[@tutorialsforyou3981]

you don’t understand social experimental film

[@jadenisiah]

No, it's clearly that the Christians weren't willfully listening. like usually. Usually they weren't willing to learn anything

[@mslmfakhura6997]

@@tutorialsforyou3981 Tu dis ça parce que les musulmans ont eu un meilleur comportement. Et la plupart des gens sur Terre capitalisent sur nos différences, là au moins, le but est qu'on se comprenne...

[@davemwng8623]

Or maybe that's just your way of understanding. I don't see any division here. People are coming together and understanding their differences and common ground & helping to make informed choices based on logic & not "tradition"

[@Oulaqi]

Just to clarify something the producers should have noted: The Muslims gusts are representing the Nation of Islam type of Islam which is different than the mainstream original Islam....

[@maishesbeautiful]

youre thinking about Black Israelites. Black muslims are the same as any other Muslim

[@DawahInBaltimore]

That’s a shame

[@ShugriDualle]

Thank you for mentioning this. They picked the wrong Muslims. Nation of Islam are not Muslims

[@kordei-7839]

How are they representing that? What do you mean?

[@Oulaqi]

@kordei-7839 google "nation of Islam" and "elijah muhammad" to get some education, I don't have time sorry...

[@az-pe5wh]

The Muslim group absolutely displayed maturity and knowledge on several topics. The christian girl did not even know how to pronounce Islam. That was disrespectful

[@niyaniya7530]

Gurl not knowing how to pronounce something is NOT disrespectful like if I don’t know how to say someone’s name then is it disrespectful?

[@sherabingham27]

Facts ​@@niyaniya7530

[@Seen_not_heard]

7:50 I’m buying a Quran after watching this. I had one as a kid (mom is Christian and dad is agnostic but had interest in Islam when I was a kid). I want another one, any suggestions?

[@jerrrythemouse]

All Quran books are the same. Some come with the translation and the Hadith/the event when was the chapter or the verse revealed. I’d say get one that comes with the English translation so you know what youre reciting. If you go to any mosque and ask for Quran, I’m sure they’ll give you the best one for you in your situation

[@petrstanik7597]

I suggest The Satanic Verses from Salman Rushdie

[@Oumaima500]

The Clear Quran

[@neenee8798]

I'd suggest one from darussalam! Peace be upon you. 💕

[@mina7739]

I highly suggest The Clear Quran. It is easy to understand, and has extra notes for clarity.

[@aleksandratesanovic9975]

This is such a surface level debate, I really wish you guys would have Orthodox priests or even Catholic ones instead of kids who just understand the tip of the iceberg. All respect to these people, i know the Christians will continue to grow and develop more depth.

[@MsPizzazz85]

We all get taught by teachers however we are not teachers we ascend to different occupations, So not everyone will have the same Level of Knowledge

[@EyaOueslati-ol4kz]

They are videos of imam and pastor and I never see a Christian win 😅

[@anj19911]

jubilee just wants clicks, not fruitful conversations

[@MohamedAyedary-kp3qj]

I agree, would be a much more conductive and fair conversation if they used those who are considered to be knowledgeable on the matters of each religion, this way, questions are answered more clearly, correctly, and are more likely to come with proofs/reference rather than subjective personal sways

[@JarredMunson-v6q]

Im not speaking on nobody, but the performance on both sides should be legitimate if we want to call this a debate. Please choose more devoted religous people next time its more interesting.