My Dream 2nd Gen Cummins Suspension System! Carli Pintop Install! 2nd Gen Build Part 2

I was tired of the horrible 2nd gen ride, and decided to fix things the right way with a Carli 3” pintop suspension system. This is the best bolt on suspension system for these trucks, and I was stoked to see how it transformed the ride from the horrible stock suspension that everyone knows so well! This system uses a 2.5” diameter King shock with Carli’s tuning, plus a bunch of other upgraded parts to lift the truck and make the ride a whole lot better!
The parts list:
Carli 3” Pintop Suspension system:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collection...
Carli Control Arms:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collection...
Carli Rear Leaf Springs:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collection...
Thuren Sway Bar:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collection...
Thuren 2nd Gen Track Bar:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collection...
#carlisuspension #cummins #2ndgencummins

[@JustDiesels]

For cool shirts, sweatshirts, and more check out the Just Diesels merch store: just-diesels.com The parts list: Carli 3” Pintop Suspension system: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/94-02-carli-systems/products/carli-dodge-1994-2002-pintop-2-5-3-lift-suspension-system Carli Control Arms: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/carli-dodge-suspension-components/products/copy-of-carli-suspension-dodge-ram-2500-3500-control-arms Carli Rear Leaf Springs: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/carli-dodge-suspension-components/products/carli-dodge-ram-2500-3500-full-progressive-leaf-spring-pack Thuren Sway Bar: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/1994-2012-thuren-ram/products/active-rate-sway-bar-ram-2500-1998-5-2002 Thuren 2nd Gen Track Bar: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/1994-2012-thuren-ram/products/copy-of-thuren-active-rate-sway-bar-ram-2500-3500-1998-5-2002

[@matt704]

Wait till you get the rear leaf springs on from them. I have the full system arms coils basic shocks from them and rear leaf springs.40mph thru the dirt with ease. I want to get the pin tops next.

[@JustDiesels]

@@matt704 I can't wait to get them on! It just takes a long time to do leaf springs on these 2nd gens since you have to drop the tank and remove the trailer hitch.

[@matt704]

@@JustDiesels Yeah it took a little of finessing but I was able to get the bolts out on the tank side with out having to drop the tank. In total it took about 3 hours to replace everything it’s just a lot of heavy stuff like everything else is on these trucks.

[@lovmyrx7841]

@@JustDiesels There’s a truck you need to see if your looking for super clean low mileage 2nd gen dually.

[@sethhayes8884]

22 comfort with 1990’s reliability

[@thomashopper3705]

Perfect way to put it

[@JasonWaterfalls13]

Don't mind me...I'll just be in the corner telling myself I don't need a clean low mile 2nd gen... 2nd gen's looking great! Loving the step by step build videos, thank you!

[@MrSrtman18]

Of course you do. This is a way overpriced system in mho. Im sure its good. Not worth 5k tho.

[@303Mopar]

You should do a good/better/best for headlight conversion on a 2nd gen. Stock lights suck and it would be nice to know some plug n play options.

[@forrestcary]

WE NEED MORE 2nd gen CONTENT!!! there’s a huge lack of 2nd gen KZbinrs on here.. we want more! Do you even have it still?

[@JustDiesels]

Oh yeah! Got a video coming next week about a new tuner that hasn’t hit the market yet, and a Carli leaf pack review. Just been busy!

[@JustDiesels]

Please let me know any videos you want to see and I’ll make em!

[@Usialbubba7283]

Just got the dominator kit for my 99. Rides just as good as my dad’s 23 with the pintop system it’s great.

[@ChadFrutiger]

A true unicorn on the road. Loving every new update man.

[@stevenowell]

Impressive truck Bro. I have a 94, now I have something to shoot for. One good thing about me procrastinating is that all kinds of new developments are coming to the forefront

[@rudyy9033]

Looks just plain awesome plus functionality for truck use is GREAT 👍

[@JustDiesels]

Exactly! Win win!

[@markleipfert3954]

Coming along great! Love the content, thank you for the quality videos👍🏻

[@tannerkawi]

Such a sweet rig! My all time favorite truck. My dad bought the same truck brand new in 2001 and still has it! Only has about 160k miles on it.

[@JackTruitt]

love this video. gives me hope for my 2nd gen, I bought my truck with a 6" skyjacker lift and it's horrible. can't wait to get Carli on the truck

[@jeffreyyeater1780]

You're truck is looking very nice . Just a killer build . Great video content . 👌

[@estimatingonediscoveringthree]

Great video

[@Archie144]

By far the best info videos out there for Dodge trucks….awesome job explaining, very detailed!

[@jesuscampos5124]

Paso Robles is definitely a beautiful place and that truck is goals

[@SeventyEightCivic]

Thank you, more 2nd gen ram please

[@jeffreyyeater1780]

My 06 is finally going to be almost complete. I'm ordering 3" springs , sway bar links , from Thuren , upgraded steering, and pittman arm from BD , also threw in a deep trans pan from A T S. I already had Thuren control arms and track bar . Air bags in the back . 35 terra grapplers and an ARB locker . Lol. Almost there.

[@mikestrucks]

What a really nice setup Andrew 💪🏻👍🏻

[@ll_sch1zophr3ni4_ii9]

My loose its your gain

[@ryanhallidaho]

Your truck is coming along nicely. Can't wait to hear what you have to say regarding the Thuren track bar. I need one for my 01 when they are fully released.

[@JustDiesels]

It’s absolutely the best 2nd gen track bar option around! The bar was pretty damn low though haha.

[@bigmurph68]

Gotta say that’s a pretty clean and sharp 2nd gen. I sorta redid the front end on my 2nd gen a few years ago and I did Thuren springs, Dodge Off Road control arms ( won them in a contest), Synergy steering and track bar, and honestly forget what sway bar end links I have (I think DT Fab). I notice with my 2nd gen I have the 2nd gen lean (leans over an inch to the driver side front and back). I’ll prob just add a spacer and block front and rear. I wanna add the leafs but the cost is kinda high for me to spend for a 300,000mi (had 80,430mi when I bought it in 2008). I’m enjoying this build and gonna keep a watch on this.

[@guitartalk999]

I’m completely inspired!

[@jeffwilliams4676]

Looks good

[@landondixonn]

who else just loves the sound of a 24v second gen???

[@jmo2640]

So sick!

[@jeffreyyeater1780]

can't beat those wheels

[@payloadperformance9706]

Can’t wait to see the new track bar video, i just installed a track bar for my carli springs but i’m kind of hoping my track bar maybe breaks in the new year or so that way it gives me an excuse to install the thuren track bar 😂

[@tristenhunt2272]

The 2nd Gen Cummins is my all time favorite truck. I have an ‘02 that my grandfather bought new. Although he took good care of it, it still needs some love. I’m progressively working on “future proofing” it so that my family and I can continue to enjoy it. I’ve retrofitted it to the updated 3rd Gen steering linkage system, and I’m installing EMF ball joints tomorrow, to my knowledge the EMF’s are the best available for 2nd gens. I was unaware Thuren would be releasing a track bar for these, I would have probably waited, but at the moment the truck currently has the DOR in it. I’m eager to see your video on that Thuren track bar. You do by far the best informational videos on diesels. Thank you!

[@phendrix9476]

I’m adding much of these same upgrades to my 2nd Gen. It’s great to know what to expect so thanks for the video. The EMF BJ’s are incredible. They include the press adapter which is crucial. Got about 60K on mine and they’re one of the best upgrades I’ve added. The free spin kit is great also. I’d be shocked if you ever needed to replace them. Also, zerk fitting orientation is really important.

[@ericestep9880]

Got my carli signature series shocks and thuren 2” coils and track bar! 👍🏼

[@JustDiesels]

Those shocks are such a good deal since they have a lifetime warranty and are tuned for the Ram platform!

[@Doggysong]

I hope you enjoyed Paso! Make sure to visit Pine St Saloon next time, it's always an experience... We have a handful of 2nd gens in north county, hopefully you saw a few. Keep making awesome videos 🤟

[@matthewsplawn729]

Ordered the Thuren extra soft coils with fox 2inch shocks all around for my 99 think the next step is that sway bar, then leafs love the videos second gens are the best

[@korn111685]

I subbed for the 2nd gen content

[@kennylemmonds408]

Nice 2nd gen bro

[@GMCJay_lly]

Commenting for support.

[@Agui1226]

I love that truck bro

[@brantshaw6156]

pretty nice truck

[@imtheplayerandthecoach2409]

Awesome video jus got back from Paso Robles myself I'm ordering parts from Carli for my 24v tired of ruff riding leveling kit

[@jeffreyyeater1780]

If you keep all your trucks in the same shop please include a shot of them in a video ..so cool.

[@benbernhard9374]

My 01 is going in the same direction as your 99. I have the thuren 2" linear springs and would love to compare the ride between equally equipped trucks just the carli progressive vs the thuren linear rate springs.

[@joeyrakas8364]

I love it.

[@spencersgarage]

I love that truck

[@firehawk956]

We need more videos ASAP

[@michaelcorrales4970]

Nothing is more comfortable than a 89 f350 front suspension. Change my mind. Mine rides like a cloud ☁️ other than the dually rear stiffer than a board

[@eddiefranchuk2838]

Waiting for that Thuren track bar install vid!!

[@AUSSIEGARAGE_YT]

I really wish Carli would offer this setup for the 1500 gassers. I've got a 2 door short bed off road package with the 5.9l magnum v8. It's got a completely hand-built 4 inch lift kit on it and 37s, but it's still using the stock front coils with a spacer until I can get the money together for some ORI struts.

[@JustDiesels]

Actually the 1500 2nd gens use the same overall suspension, so you can fit most of these parts on them! I recommend doing the Thuren XS coils since they’re the lightest rate coil made for these trucks, and would be the best fit for the lower weight of yours.

[@hunterbrock2347]

I can tell you're really lining up a lot of future videos including this truck and that's great. You got the OBS Powerstroke guys roped in with your '97 F-350 7.3 so please show it some love too. I remember seeing and hearing that the transmission was doing old E40D things but once that's sorted out, doing a simple enough RSK would be great or a 99-04 front spring swap and an 08-16 rear spring swap would help too but I would be intrigued to see what you think the best suspension system solution for that is.

[@JustDiesels]

Yeah that damn truck has literally spent 8 months at the shop this year with trans issues! Parts availability made it way worse, since there were no replacements available for stuff. I THINK everything is sorted now so that truck will be back on the channel more instead of sitting at the shop! My suspension plan is to do custom front and rear Deaver springs with some nice shocks. Not sure I want to do the RSK as I hate the look of the shackle hanging down, and doing those custom springs should be a huge change in the ride. I’ll figure it out though and make an update video!

[@hunterbrock2347]

@@JustDiesels well hopefully it is all sorted out. I understand your frustrations to a degree, I bought my '95 F-250 7.3 not really running and brought it home to a shop to have it fixed. Turns out the shop mechanic didn't know his way around a 7.3 Powerstroke very well and he just pushed it off to the side and kept putting everything else in front of it. 6 months went by and I was plenty fed up myself in that the only time I ever drove my truck, it was coasting down a hill, onto a trailer and then off of it when it was home. I ended up limping it from this diesel mechanic to a friend of a friend who turns out he knows the 7.3 Powerstroke very well and ever since, they've been who I talk to when my trucks rough past cocks it's ugly head at me and it lets me down. Now in regards to your F-350, honestly I can't really see how some custom Deaver springs would remedy the harshness of the factory flawed suspension with the front leaf spring shackle going forwards and making the axle jump through forward bumps rather than compress along with the bumps.

[@ll_sch1zophr3ni4_ii9]

Why everyone loves second gen dodge Cummins😩😋😎🤤

[@Madhuntr]

that system looks really clean. doesnt bolster it too much for a lift. looks very nice. Maybe this all might also fit on a 1500 ^^

[@JustDiesels]

If the truck is 4wd it does fit!

[@Madhuntr]

@@JustDiesels nice thx yes IT is a 4wd

[@Deckers_fab]

When are we gonna get more second gen content. I really enjoy it

[@bobscott9253]

Curious about how the rear leafs will possibly raise the rear... It's at the perfect angle now. 👏🏼

[@JustDiesels]

It’s just a hair rear low, so the rear leaf springs should make it sit perfect!

[@bluedodge99]

@@JustDiesels i agree alittle rear low

[@TheDiegob1]

Damn ads came on right when you said epic bead roll haha and no skip button😂

[@JustDiesels]

Sadly KZbin picks where they place them… 😒

[@justinmtbiking]

man I wish the OBS ford came was capable of great bolt on suspension like this...

[@derekbetts7442]

Watching this laying in bed makes me wanna go out side and take my gen 2 for a drive! Lol

[@tysonw1031]

Whenever you’re ready to sell this Beauty, I’m ready to buy!

[@JustDiesels]

Only if I find the holy grail 98 12v!

[@truesyn1]

Hopefully some OBS 7.3 suspension option content soon. :)

[@thebluelunarmonkey]

I saw in another video you have the automatic instead of an NV. 47RE? If that 2nd gen doesn't have a transmission cooler and temp gauge, that'd be a good project video. Keeping it at 175-180 is ideal, but even 200 is good.

[@migoman98]

GORGEOUS truck. Can we also get some VW content?

[@jc.938]

If SHTF which truck would do anything to upgrade the truck to prepare it? For example put a 100 gallon diesel fuel container with the option to hard wire a gas pump or set up as auxiliary diesel tank! I am thinking about prepping my 2003 Ford F-250. You could make a video on this Dodge as you have a great start already!

[@jeffreyyeater1780]

More fuel is always a good thing . If the shtf stay home , Safest place to be in most cases .

[@mrgooberdoodle]

What did you do with the other lift kit you had on previously? Do a giveaway, or sell it to me. 😉 Love your content by the way! Definitely an underrated channel!

[@Ulfstigandr]

Too much block in the rear causes wrap. Its always better to find a spring pack designed for the lift you want

[@370HSSV66]

Your 2nd gen is my personal favorite out of all the trucks you got. I remember you used to have thuren control arms? Did you switch to Carli arms because of it's in the pintop kit?

[@JustDiesels]

I just like the Carli arms better so I took the opportunity to switch!

[@mindcraft1701]

I’m just starting to think it’s time to sell my my 4Runner and am falling in love with the idea of a 2nd gen Cummins with this sort of set up. Can anyone give me a ball park figure of how much these parts and labour will cost at the end of the day?

[@24valveperformance19]

Can we get a update on the trackbar please!!

[@RoamingLost]

that thing is dialedddd

[@vancekeith5642]

Looks Great Andrew!! Now wondering wether i stick with Back country 2.0 or Pin top for the 2009 2500?

[@JustDiesels]

It just depends on how much off road you do and at what speed. The Back Country is perfect unless you plan to go 40+ miles an hour in the dirt!

[@dodgedude908]

Speaking of the rear leaf springs, you also gonna at some point do their long travel air bags with them? I’m thinking about doing that with the rear of my 2012 in the future sometime and would like to know how it works out as far as ride quality and payload (both leaf springs and air bags)

[@JustDiesels]

They actually discontinued their 2nd gen long travel bags due to low order volume, but those will work perfectly with your 2012 to get the best of both worlds! Keep in mind though that airbags always hurt ride, so only get them if you absolutely need them! The Carli springs are totally fine as long as your trailer pin/tongue weight is 1k or less.

[@davemeier929]

Love my '99 also, I've had it since new and drive it almost everyday. Are you going to do anything with the steering box?

[@JustDiesels]

Mine’s decent for now so I’ll probably only address it when it gets play! Redhead is the way to go!

[@kalebstout7673]

What would be the best Thuren sway bar alternative for a 97 Dodge Ram 2500 12valve. I planned on running the Thuren until I realized I can’t with the cobra style mounts that are on my truck.

[@WheelsGunsShoes]

What did you do with the extra soft coils? Is there a difference compared to carli springs vs thuren?

[@korn111685]

Finally….

[@eduardoruiz840]

Can you post the stabilizer stock as well. I have a 2001 dodge ram 3500 and am currently working on the front suspension. I'm trying to get the coil springs without the shocks. I have those installed already.

[@JustDiesels]

I’m running this stabilizer, but it ONLY works with the factory 99 HD steering if you have the cap positioned perfectly! It will not work on the more common factory Y-style steering. www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/steering-stabilizers/products/fox-dodge-2014-2500-2013-3500-ram-2500-3500-2-0-performance-series-stabilizer

[@sandmans74]

Follow up on the rear spring install?

[@JustDiesels]

I love them! I just need to finish the video and I’ve been insanely busy with life!

[@yaroslavnesteruk9507]

Awesome info! Can I ask a favor for a guy that's not too smart, for you to explain in future videos more in detail why oe design is not So good or why it should be replaced with something better than stock and what other companies offer the upgrades but why you went with the company or system you chose. I might be asking too much, and I understand if it's too much I ask for but my brain wants to know why it needs the upgrades or what not, I might be questioning too much, but that's just how my logic works.. anyway I love your channel and your enthusiasm for Mechanical contraptions sush as ram trucks!!!

[@JustDiesels]

Totally! I'm going to make an in depth track bar video on the third gen coming up!

[@PhalanxR]

What mirrors are those?

[@Baptistbowhunter]

Can you do a pure sound video on the 24v?

[@JustDiesels]

Yeah! I tried that on the 1st gen but it never did super well. Those are easy enough to make though!

[@johnlopez128]

Cycling through KZbin and social media bored…. Instagram: New video up……..Me: yes!

[@tannermontana93]

Have you done the rear springs yet?

[@JustDiesels]

Yep! Just need to do an update video. Long story short: they’re awesome.

[@aznb_ghost]

Will it work for the v10 Magnum, because you said the sway bar won't work for the 12v so I was wondering with the v10 Will it differ or does it not matter

[@sethhayes8884]

First to comment!! Keep up the great content

[@JustDiesels]

Thank you for supporting!

[@eduardoruiz840]

So with that thuren sway bar, would you need to use the sway bar links that come with them. I just installed BDD SWAY BAR LINKS on my truck. Can you use those instead?

[@JustDiesels]

Yeah they come with a pretty unique end link to allow for the amount of flex that sway bar and the Carli/Thuren coils and shocks can provide! Sadly yours won’t work!

[@kraignewton4617]

How much sag does it have after installed I’m looking to level my truck but want to upgrade the front like what you have and still be able to tow

[@JustDiesels]

This truck still has the factory rear springs, which means factory payload and the same sag when loaded as a factory truck!

[@kevinkodonnell]

Any info on that Carli leaf pack?

[@JustDiesels]

I have it on the truck now and it’s awesome. Ride is dramatically better.

[@jp2073]

JD, Love ur trucks. Thinking of buying my buddy's 2nd gen 2500 cummins NV4500 Manual. 2 questions: 1)It has 410 gears, if I put 35s, will it still be geared too low? Don't want 37s. 2) Can I add side & tailgate black plastic moldings/trim from a '99 to a '01? Thanks in advance

[@wyattlewis8671]

That would put you just shy of 2100 rpm at 70 mph, but almost 2400 at 80. In my opinion, 1700-2100 rpm is the sweet spot for cruising on these trucks. Too much lower and they start to bog down a bit, too much higher and they get noisy enough that it kind of sucks to drive long periods in them.

[@dylanwaldun8890]

Do you have any idea what kind of fuel mileage it gets

[@johngregson4030]

Besides the Hassel of installation why don't you use long arms on any of your trucks??

[@jeffreyyeater1780]

You don't need long arms until you go over 4" lift . I dont think any of his trucks are over 4"

[@howardgood5394]

New to the channel. Got my first 2gen. Where did you get the yellow fog lights. And can you get them for the second gen. Love those wheels on the second gen. Wish I could something similar. You said they don’t make them anymore.

[@JustDiesels]

The lights on top came with the truck from the factory, but you can add cab lights to any truck! As for the wheels, while this exact finish is discontinued, Walker Evans does have a newer version available.

[@sheldoncollin6291]

Out of all your trucks which one do you think is the strongest most reliable truck?

[@JustDiesels]

The third gen is the truck I’d do anything in!

[@srooster4410]

what kind of engine mods you got? hp tq?

[@wireproof]

I have a 1997 Ram 2500 with the Synergy T-Steering Setup and the Top Tier Suspension 3rd Gen Track Bar Conversion Kit paired with the Carli 3rd Gen Adjustable Track Bar. Would you recommend upgrading to the Tauren 2nd Gen Track Bar that you are currently beta testing? Only issues I’ve had with the TTS conversion kit is that there is way too much flex with the track bar even working with the company and the shop turned into a nightmare..

[@JustDiesels]

At this point in time the Thuren track bar is hands down the nicest track bar made for 2nd gens. I’d personally get that over anything else available since the geometry is correct with a 2nd gen specific track bar, and a quality bracket.

[@wireproof]

@@JustDiesels just installed mine last night, test drive was night and day! When is the update video coming out??

[@insomniahobbies]

Are the spherical bushings loud? Do the clunk at all? I had a Spohn set up on my Camaro and it was noisy and I hated it.

[@JustDiesels]

Not a single sound out of them! Had a set on my third gen for about 40-50k miles without issue too!

[@jeffreyyeater1780]

Mine dont make any noise at all. Keep them greased well.

[@taylorkok8581]

Hey can you tell me the height of your truck with those wheels and tires?

[@AUSSIEGARAGE_YT]

I wish there were more good options for aftermarket suspension parts for these trucks. There are a few companies like synergy and Carli, but they only cater to the 2500 and 3500s. Dodge Off-Road has great products that are bulletproof but their company is a scam and is shady.

[@Allan.m432]

All of my dodge offroad products have sucked

[@jonahmcclelland3894]

I’m getting an out of state 98 24v and was wondering if you had issues getting smog done?

[@JustDiesels]

Nope! It’s super easy as long as the truck doesn’t have insane engine mods!

[@eduardoruiz840]

Do you know if thuren makes a rear sway bar? Or who would you recommend?

[@JustDiesels]

Nope! You don’t really want one if ride quality is your goal. I took the factory one off this truck almost immediately!

[@niconotaro3514]

hey Andrew, is that a cb or ham radio antenna on the front passenger fender? or is it just an am/fm radio antenna?

[@clorox2287]

Am/fm

[@brotherfreeman2223]

What was cost for this job

[@bigmurph68]

Still waiting on the leaf spring video.

[@JustDiesels]

So funny story, the batteries in this truck were defective and the warranty replacements were on national back order so I haven’t driven it in months! FINALLY got batteries in it last week so I can do an update. Damn back orders suck!

[@javienj.2535]

How much did all this run you?

[@jsnmart97]

You should help me work on my truck !

[@Graffian108]

How much for a ride setup like this?