MacBook Pro M4: What We Really Think

[@JustJoshTech]

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[@Hi-how-are-you-today.]

@@JustJoshTech by the way the 64gb M4 pro chip can only be had in the Mac mini for some reason

[@OGtruthserum]

I take it the Macbook Air comes out next year?

[@Hi-how-are-you-today.]

@ yeah probably

[@AhmedSh-nc6lj]

When he's worried about your money and how you spend it and keeps you out of debt Josh is more of a very good friend than a KZbinr.

[@amitkumar-wj8gn]

The difference is cadence between the two speakers is insane. Josh speaks like he is chilling by the beach, Sarah talks like she is about to DJ in a nightclub.

[@young9534]

Haven't upgraded in 10 years. I'm so ready for this

[@whiteshadow247]

I feel you! My MacBook Pro Mid 2015 model just bricked on me which is giving me a reason to finally upgrade. So im debating on getting a new M4 or getting a heavily discounted custom built M3 Max through eBay. What do you think? I can get nearly a maxed out MacBook Pro M3 max for considerably less money (or equivalent to) the price of a M4. Tough choice. I am wanting to future proof though.

[@young9534]

@@whiteshadow247 My 10 year old Macbook pro is still going strong. But it sucks for video editing unfortunately. I think M3 would be worth it if its a really big discount, not just like $300 off. But I plan on going M4 max with the hope that it lasts 10 years like my current Macbook has

[@alvinphk]

There are so many tech channels on KZbin. However none is as honest, sincere and genuine as Josh’s. This is the channel that I can trust fully on what is being shared, is in the best interest of the audience. Thanks Josh.🙏👍

[@dirtysprite_]

I love these guys, genuinely feels like they're on our side

[@stephenhayes5636]

Brown nose

[@NigraXXL]

I don't know about honest, but their reviews are very good

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

Jarrod is also honest person, i remember watching him when deciding what is the best value gaming laptop at that time, from my experience it was almost the same as he said

[@hockey1freak]

Every single one with >1million followers have sold out years ago.

[@Jimmyfly215]

the M4 Pro MB Pro 14 inch is the best model this year of their Macbooks. and the Mini, i can’t wait to get one

[@ASM_31]

12 core or 14 core CPU?

[@sanatani_mikey]

@@ASM_31 12 core CPU for 512gb and 14 core CPU for 1tb

[@4b978]

Not sure if I should get 14 or 16 inch version, I'm dev, working from home and rarely traveling, using external display most of the time and mac display only for teams/slack. 14 inch version is probably fine if there is no thermal throttling compared to 16 inch version

[@sanatani_mikey]

@@4b978 14 inch is solid pick . You won't regret it . I have a 13 inch macbook pro M2 and trust me it's just fine and i never had a complaint

[@Jimmyfly215]

@ depends, but I went for the 14 inch back in 2021, and it was a great experience. But I also had it attached to an external monitor. I now have a M3 Pro 16 inch, and use the same monitor. The screen real estate really matters to me, and the screen is gorgeous. Performance has been incredible

[@candysnatcher6916]

Josh, I’ve been waiting for your take on the new MacBooks. Last year, I considered getting the base M3 MBP 14, but I held off because of the RAM situation. This year, I’m set on getting the base M4 MBP 14 (16/512). I’ll be primarily using it for programming on an external 4K display. I’ll still keep my Legion Slim 7 (5800H/3060) for gaming. Until now, I used my Legion for both work and gaming, but I’m ready to switch to the M4 MBP. Thanks for your honest and clear thoughts on the new Macs, Josh.

[@JustJoshTech]

I'm glad you waited. These are better

[@firechikara]

Is 16GB enough for programming? I have friends as software engineers and they said bare minimum is 32 and sweet spot is 64GB.

[@JustJoshTech]

@firechikara They are in general wrong. 16 GB is enough but it depends on what you are coding. If you run a VM that will use alot of memory. So I'd prefer you on a 24 GB base M4 Pro model

[@firechikara]

@@JustJoshTech I don't know exactly what kind of coding they do nor their exact tasks aside coding something as it's not my field. But I do know someone having the need to rely on something called AWS and to avoid to big latency on relying on it and do things faster locally, he got from his job a MBP M2 Max with 96GB RAM. That's why I'm intrigue to know how much RAM usually a dev need.

[@Tanaka-x9g]

I have been waiting for your video to drop

[@Samvisualarts]

Same. Josh has the best laptop buying advice on KZbin

[@SimBargo]

I‘ll be 100% honest, so don’t take this the wrong way. Josh is a lot smoother, he speaks in a good tempo and more clearly. Sarah speaks too fast which is kinda stressing.

[@Wombat7777777]

I personally enjoy that she is talking much faster. Josh speaks a little slow that sometimes I skip ahead to get to the information quicker.

[@miscwork-qb7pd]

It's the juxtaposition that's jarring. And it's magnified if you watch at faster than 1x speed

[@BriariusTitan]

personally I like her pace, she delivers information quickly and accurately

[@remixisthis]

I watch in 2x speed so don’t mind

[@sydguitar99]

Nah I agree, she seems like she's tense and just trying to read off a script very quickly

[@anshumaanmishra3748]

The Air getting "Cheaper" is the highlight for me. Although still out of my budget, it is now a worthy upgrade when I can afford it.

[@ohHeyKev]

Don't forget to look at refubrished deals on Apple's website or major retailers. Although I would trust Apple's program far better than other open-box retailer programs as they test their products more for quality purposes.

[@firechikara]

Seeing that the regular M4 chip of the MacBook Pro has now three ThunderBolt ports, it could be possible that the next refresh MacBook Air with M4 chip will finally get an additional TB port alongside the 3.5mm jack port. Also, the ability to use two monitors without having the need to close the lid is big plus. I think for anyone who's interested in getting the MacBook Air, it'll best to wait for next year

[@EverythingisFire]

@@firechikara When do they typically release updated Air's? This was my first year looking at them.

[@firechikara]

@@EverythingisFire For now, take it with a grain of salt as it's rumors based on Mark Gurman's reports and Tweets that the MBA with M4 chip will enter in production and estimate a release during Q1 2025. There's also the fact that there'll be a refresh of the iPhone SE, iPad Air and basic iPad planned for 2025, though don't know if it'll be at the same time.

[@thedownunderverse]

@@firechikarabut will the screen still suck?

[@wlcrutch]

Reminder: PLEASE like and subscribe. This is hands down the best laptop channel out there!

[@JustJoshTech]

Thank you!!!

[@Lilia.Pavageau-r7m]

🙌🏻

[@Winnetou17]

17% club reporting in!

[@popeye82]

Agreed

[@nespppp]

Love you, Josh. So excited to upgrade from my MBP 2015 to the MBP M4 Pro

[@ajsliter]

Please keep in mind, audio workstations depend largely on if you are mastering pre-recorded audio (Mastering Pre-Recorded Audio or bouncing Sample libraries to raw audio can run on 24 or 32 GB, maybe 64GB in some cases) or are using sample libraries. I am the latter camp and my windows usage with REAPER on an orchestral template is 48 gigs alone. I intend to expand and I know that Macs use slightly more ram at idle and Logic Pro uses about 25% more memory than REAPER Does which means I may need more than 64GB of ram to do music production. I was originally eyeing an 14 Core M3 Max Macbook Pro with 96 GB and 1TB internal for 4200 bucks, but the M4 models did away with 96 GB of ram which increased price for me because I only needed 96 GB, not 128. Also it doesn't make sense that the Mac Mini can have 64GB ram with its M4 Pro, but the Macbook Pro can't have that configuration unless you pay for the top end max chip.

[@77Mowgli]

Thanks!

[@JustJoshTech]

You're a legend. Thank you

[@omarcortes5754]

I'm a Thinkpad daddy so not into Macbooks but I'm feeling tempted to get a Mini Pro.

[@one_step_sideways]

I think the $600 Mac Mini is everything you would ever need, and you absolutely have to use an external 10Gbit NVMe enclosure, because it's a desktop computer and there is absolutely no reason to pay $200 for 256GB more, which won't be portable, unlike a 2TB SSD connected to a cheap 10Gbit enclosure. Even then, if all you ever do is browse the web and do office tasks, you shouldn't buy any Mac period. Let alone buy into the whole Apple ecosystem meme

[@scubasteve1555]

@@one_step_sideways Disagree, I browse the web and do office tasks and prefer Mac OS any day over Windows. Smoother, better longevity, less issues. Just a better overall experience.

[@one_step_sideways]

@scubasteve1555 Longevity for what? Also, if that's the case, I can run Hackintosh on some used ThinkPad.

[@scubasteve1555]

@@one_step_sideways Computer longevity, as in how long you can use it. I get far more longevity out of Macs than I do Windows machines. I’m not talking about hackintosh, talking about a Mac computer’s longevity.

[@whiteshadow247]

Unparalleled content - always looking out for your uploads when it comes to tech releases and comparisons. Can't wait for your latest video on this M4 release.

[@bryans8656]

I agree with your recommendation. Since I have an M3 MBP I won't be upgrading any time soon even though the M4s have some attractive new features.

[@supercellex4D]

I got a max and I'm thinking of getting the M5 max. The M5 max will have the tandem OLED and new body

[@hawking1989]

​@@supercellex4D don't think so

[@VladdyDaddy369]

As I understand, the screen brightness is not related to a new panel as it is the same as on previous models. It's software related which can be achieved on previous models with an app better display.

[@lukabosnjak3829]

Yes

[@jefebeatz184]

Finally upgrading to a regular M4 macbook! The one i was using was a 2013 macbook and couldn’t update logic pro on it for a long time. Its still going strong!

[@synen]

I've watched about a dozen videos exploring the pros and cons of these new Apple machines. This is, far and way, the most technical but done in such a way that it is clear and concise. Applause.

[@alexdenton6586]

For me, the 13-inch iPad Pro with the M4 chip has completely replaced my Mac, which I eventually sold. I still keep a Windows PC for gaming, as Windows remains the dominant platform for PC games. Beyond that, mobile devices have taken over tasks I used to perform on laptops. The iPad’s design offers a simplicity that traditional PC operating systems lack, yet it doesn’t feel limiting. With cloud services now available for various tasks, an iPad meets the needs of most people, alongside a smartphone, of course. I’m eager to see how artificial intelligence will influence and transform computing in general.

[@gokseningozde7826]

This is the best review I watched about m4 chips. Thanks!

[@JustJoshTech]

Thanks. A new one is coming tomorrow am too :)

[@Hundredthldiot]

I don't think MBPs should be recommended for students when the MBA is absolutely fine for 90% of professional software engineers.

[@JustJoshTech]

Woah. I was not saying to buy it over an Air. I was saying for students who want a MacBook Pro and can afford it. The M4 model is the one to get

[@Hundredthldiot]

​@@JustJoshTechsure but it's a bit like saying "which model of Porsche is best for a learner driver". It's a question but not a good question 😂

[@juantomasrago6846]

Honestly, didn't know this channel, but this video has me sold. Amazing stuff guys!

[@JustJoshTech]

Thank you. And welcome aboard from all of us

[@Burbanana]

Slightly off-topic but.. I noticed you guys haven't reviewed the premium Thinkbook 13X from this year. It comes with an optional *haptic trackpad* (very rare), a 3:2 high res IPS display, an aluminium body, USB-C ports on both sides for a total of 3 and up to a Core Ultra 9 with 32GB RAM. Honestly I think it is one of the more interesting and underrated options of the year, I just don't know if it's good or not. Will you review it at all? Have you missed that one? I think it would be a really interesting video review for everyone!

[@JustJoshTech]

Ah yes we know it well. We had it for a while and returned it. Its an extremely high quality laptop. Feels like a really nice bit of kit when you hold it. Everything about it is super premium. As I recall, the reason we didn't make a video about it was that we felt a) it was too expensive for most people (at least at the price it was being sold at that tiem), b) we felt the Core Ultra 9 likely couldn't be effectively cooled in the chassis and would run warm c) Other more interesting laptops were arriving at that time that we needed to cover e.g. Qualcomm. It is a very nice laptop though.

[@Burbanana]

@@JustJoshTech Thanks for the thorough explanation! Just to clear something up though: did you just feel that it could not cool it, or did you also experience that in tests? On sale it might be an option, as I would not care if it did not get hot but was just a more limited CU9. Big factor for me is heat you feel. (It should have been a CU7 at most) *I still think you should publish a review on it because finding haptic trackpads is a pain.*

[@abdurrahmankhan129]

Best Buy has the 16” M4 Pro 48/512 on sale for $2800 and the 16” M3 Max 36/1tb on sale for $2900. Wondering which one to buy for learning to code and some gaming with parallels and Windows 11? Would you think the M4 would be better for battery life and the more ram?

[@realnotes]

Thanks

[@accesswireless189]

How much worse is the 12MP webcam on the M4 Macs compared to the 1080p webcam on previous Macs? It seems counterintuitive, but the 12MP center stage camera apparently is worse than the 1080p web cam of the previous Macs because of the center stage processing, meaning that the 12MP takes picture of the entire room and then digitally crops the person to keep him/her in the center. So only a portion of the 12MP camera is used on the centered person, and the actual total pixels used to show the person in the center is less pixels than the previous 1080p camera. In other words, the image created is a digitally zoomed and cropped picture with less than 1080p pixels, so the image is more blurry and noisy. It is not like the entire 12MP of the camera is all used on the image centered, the 12MP sensor is used to take a picture of the entire room, and since the camera does not physically move to center the person but just digitally crops the 12MP image to show the centered person, maybe only 1MP is used on the image of the person centered. The picture quality is even worse when you have your picture centered and the picture of your desk is also shown at the same time, since the 12MP camera has to be divided between cropping you and also cropping the desk picture.

[@GuyGamer1]

1080P is 2MP.

[@nevermindasa]

I ended up buying the M4 Pro Mbp, with 48gb of ram and 1 tb of storage. After my M1 mbp crashed 2 days ago! Cant wait! The only thing i might regret is the color i went with. I really wanted silver but ended up with stellarblack

[@Ortiis]

Which one do you think makes more sense? M4 Vs M3 Pro ?! I am a graphic design student, I need a mac for school but I am a bit confused. My general use will be Adobe programs and occasional video editing programs. The price of both Macs is the same in my country. What are your ideas for these two Mac Pro. Macbook Pro M4 14 inch Specs 10 CPU, 10 GPU, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Macbook Pro M3 Pro 14 inch Specs 11 CPU, 14 GPU, 18GB RAM, 512GB SSD

[@TJ-hs1qm]

it doesn't matter for you kind of work. Take the M4 it should have even better battery life.

[@hawking1989]

​@@TJ-hs1qmbut sacrificing 2gb of ram?

[@drakata27]

I have always wanted one of those redesigned Pros and finally upgraded my M1 Air to the base MBP M4

[@tty2020]

I need a larger memory bandwidth for LLM work, but I also work outside a lot, so 16" is not an option. But Max on a 14" does not perform as good as on a 16" chassis (hopefully this year's model proves me wrong). This is giving me a headache to choose.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

You can get a cooling pad? 😂

[@Creator245]

Now since the M4 is about to release, the M3 Pro is getting discounted - so it begs the question - is it better to get the M3 Pro or the M4? It’s really difficult to choose because the M3 Pro has 2 extra GBs of RAM, as well as 4 extra GPU cores and 1 extra CPU core, but the M4 should have higher single core scores… Do you have any recommendations?

[@MehmetTanselYILDIZ]

m3 pro of course..

[@hawking1989]

and dual fans

[@davids5257]

Best and most honest channel!!

[@JustJoshTech]

Thanks, we apprecaite it

[@flowwhite3192]

Real world gaming performance would be very interesting (especially Baldurs Gate 3 native and Cyberpunk or Elden Ring via crossover). And if the Base M4 Model has just one fan (like M3) or the same chassi (hopefully with two fans) as the M4 Pro. At least it seems as we now may finally get quiet gaming machines 🎉

[@LuiKast]

A comparison of the cooling solutions would be extremely interesting. I’ve heard, that the M4 ist louder and has worse cooling than the M4 Pro in the 14“ chassis. So the cooling solutions might be different. Also a comparison of the 14“ and 16“ cooling solutions for the M4 Pro would be interesting too.

[@Spartan720-l3f]

the irony of a maxed out macbook air price is the same as entry level m4 14 inch mbp with slightly lower spec.

[@thedownunderverse]

Whats ironic about it?

[@desklamp4792]

Josh, can you make a video comparing the M4 Macbook Pro and the M3 Pro Macbook Pro? They can be purchased for around the same price.

[@JustJoshTech]

Absolutely. Will be in my video in about 2 weeks. We only get them in a week

[@macacovelho94]

Do you guys think M4 PRO 48GB is good for heavy programming, productivity and overall tech work? Occasional editing and potentially messing around with LLMs.

[@SharedCookies]

One of the best honest and legit reviewers to watch on here. Love the content!

[@TCMeehan008]

Liked and subscribed. Thanks for breaking this down!

[@gabbo004]

Both of you guys are really good 👍🏼, maybe Sierra should talk a bit slower but she explains things really well as good as Josh!

[@rimbaud0000]

Such a solid no fuss channel

[@HOPCOUNT]

Very pleased with this overview of the M4 Macs, no hype feeling.

[@sunnyboat777]

Josh, as you guys are working on reviewing these new m4 macbooks, it would be great if you zoom in a bit on their new thermal profile / fan noise. It looks like Apple runs them at higher frequencies and wattage, so they naturally run hotter. Even MPB16 with M4 Pro chip now has that “extra fan noise” (aka High power) mode, which M3 Pro didn’t need

[@vicariousvindicator7545]

Very well done breakdown of the various Mac tiers. Thank you!

[@abczzzz3721]

Could you do a detailed video on laptops for machine learning? Covering stuff like mac vs windows and memory requirements etc etc

[@cjlafleur7585]

No OLED screen, the lack of Wi-Fi 7, and the gross notch are really big deal breakers. It's 2024. No OLED screen and Wi-Fi 6E is inexcusable.

[@asianstud7]

Agree 👍

[@scod3908]

Wifi 6E is >9Gbps and the average user won't even have wifi7 hardware to make use of it The miniLED display at 1000nits SDR has been upgraded from 600nits on the outgoing model. I'll take the already excellent miniLED over an OLED thru a touch layer covered in fingerprints Users are more likely to utilise the macbook pro chassis speakers, most of the competition is way behind in side by side comparisons. That's a feature every able-hearing user can actually appreciate! Very few reviewers are actually doing side-by-side speaker comparisons, and some of the competition is severely lacking in speaker quality The notch lives in no-mans land where a gap used to be between the menus and the date/time and function shortcuts. I thought I would hate it, but the truth is you don't even really notice it and it practically disappears when viewing full screen content. It would be nice if it was smaller or not present, but it's so far down the decision making hierarchy that it's a moot point

[@avalotikeshwara6136]

A transfer speed of 1,2 Gigabytes per second (Wifi6) is inexcusable, right...

[@tackytaco8133]

This is the most privileged, out of touch take I have read throughout the past week. Not to mention OLEDs haven't solved burn in, so this is technically ignorant as well.

[@scod3908]

@@tackytaco8133 X-Elite was rushed to market and heavily pushed against the base model M3 Air chassis to be able to compete. Lunar Lake is a few years behind in performance and leans on X86 compatibility for marketability It comes down to whatever cherry picking they can do to cement their bias, I guess! What I find unacceptable is that users are still reporting sleep issues with MS Windows. When I open my laptop I want it to wake up immediately like my MB's have for the past 15yrs 🤣

[@Javerni]

You forgot to mention that you need to upgrade to the highest end M4 Max chip to get more than 36GB of RAM, which is bonkers. The M4 Pro can be specced with 48GB, but the first Max cannot!

[@AikonMGB]

You mention maybe waiting for the default configurations to go on sale at third party retailers; how long do we think that will be for M4 Pros, given that they're just starting to deliver this week? In other words, might we expect to see the 14-core/1TB M4P 14" on sale before the end of the year, maybe for Black Friday?

[@User_n1d6g62f9j]

For the Final Cut Pro, is 16GB RAM on the standard M4 sufficient or should I upgrade to 24GB? I'm also planning to future-proof my Mac Mini and use it for as long as it can last.

[@TheEditorify]

Serious suspicions that the M3 was just a choked M4 with limited memory bandwidth and disabled cores to justify the release of M4?!

[@RaffayZFone]

Oh Josh, I just binge watched latest uploads on Apple channel & I must say it's a relief to see you kept the comments on

[@alfredoaraujo9294]

Would love like a buyers guide oj wither buying m4 series or refurbished ones like M2 pro m3 pro etc? In particular i am curious if the value of the base m4 macbook pro outweighs buying older mpro chips.

[@adinnugroho6544]

Cierra said Thunderbolt 5 is the first for MacBook. While the Razer 18 Josh reviewed a few months ago did have Thunderbolt 5 before MacBook M4 series

[@GlobalWave1]

I think she said one of the first. Also that only had one. These have 3 which is insane 😅

[@JustJoshTech]

I believe she said one of the first

[@SkylerMills]

i decided to go for the M4 pro 14 inch with 48gb ram and 2T of storage! my needs are music production and video editing! let me know if you think that's a good choice! Oh and I got that nano texture display ( i fly 4 times a month)! But to be sure.. went into a apple store yesterday and saw the difference on their display. Just mind blowing how it cut the glare from all the lights in the store!

[@AhmedSh-nc6lj]

I wouldn't mind upgrading the RAM, but the storage is too much and can be replaced with a much larger external storage.

[@Ivan_1986]

Good choice.

[@RemofRenaissance]

Appreciate the content. Thank you.

[@sebastian.tristan]

It's difficult to find reliable information on KZbin but you know that this channel is trustworthy and great for laypeople. Also, too bad that MacBook Pros are so expensive.

[@JonasPerssonPhoto]

They should all start with 24gb ram. But yeah, great they removed the 8gb. I will probably buy both 16 and 14 inch on the release. Because I am such a fanboy! 😅

[@mattwildmnt]

Thanks for your honest advises. This is going to be my first Apple Silicon laptop coming from a 16” 2019 Intel MacBook Pro and I really want it to last at least 4 or 5 years. My colleagues working with M1 Pro with 16Gb (they are software developers) have told me that any of the Mx will work for me but I’m more inclined to buy the latest versions of them. Taking into account that I don’t consider myself a “power user” but still I work in IT and have developed many years, I like this stuff and my plan is to use it to “do it all” from programming (pet projects and learning mainly) to edit RAW photos (Fujifilm mirrorless camera), some 4K video editing as well and, why not, to play video games every now and then although I’m a casual gamers. Should I go for the M4 Pro with 14-core CPU and 20-core GPU with 48Gb or would be 24Gb enough (I would save up to 400€ for this upgrade which I think is ridiculous expensive as I’m buying it in Europe and we pay much more because of taxes)? Moreover, should I look for a refurbished M3 Max that will provide even same/more power for less money. Is it worth to buy the M4 instead of M3 sacrificing some Gb of RAM. Great thanks

[@RakeshKumar-wy8ff]

I’m wondering the same thing

[@andrewbridgman3062]

Finally subbed even though I don't use Mac. Hope I made your dearest Mum proud and sorry for not doing it earlier. Keep up the high quality work!

[@robb7148]

Awesome and honest review. You gained another subscriber. Thank you!

[@anetizen6404]

the Airs are the stars of the show cuz they all start with 16GB of RAM. You only pay 200$ to upgrade storage to 512, and _for the 13" M2 model_ the price is reasonable with extra benefits too.

[@DeepSnap]

I was waiting for this video before making an order.

[@kouseiarima6524]

Should I go for the Macbook pro14 base or macbook pro M3 pro 14

[@JustJoshTech]

No one can properly answer this till we've used and tested them. They arrive to everyone November 8th. Real reviews out about a week after that

[@kudichris1168]

Hi Josh, I'm seriously considering getting a M4 Pro for the 1st time (I'm deep into Samsung ecosystem and been using PC so far). Could you please make a video about using a MBP with Android devices? They are not that much material out there and I would appreciate to have your feedback on that?

[@exmob88]

Josh, thank you! Great job, as always!

[@numberz010]

Call me crazy but I actually liked that the Pro chip sku had 6+6 cores it allowed for great performance while also maintaining leading battery life for lighter tasks, not entirely sure why people got so bent about that

[@larsbattermann]

Hey Josh, I would like to get a quick suggestion. I work in IT and study Computer Science. My main workload on the Macbook would be studying and Coding since I want to transition to a Backend Developer Role. In terms of CPU should I go with the M4 or the M4 Pro? My Configuration would also include the default memory and an upgrade to 1 TB storage. PS: Keep up the great content. Always a pleasure.

[@latinreuben]

Big fan here. My dilemma is keeping M3pro 14 18/512 or upgrading to base M4 or M4pro. In what ways is base m4 better than M3pro? Recalling pros are better batt life, center stage, chip, 1000nits. Cons smaller memory bandwidth (m3pro-150gb, m4-120gb)...m4 has only 1 fan?

[@vincentpohlmeier-5421]

I dont think you will notice such a didference

[@latinreuben]

@@vincentpohlmeier-5421 Just saw greek bench 6 single core base m4 is almost 4,000 and m3pro is 3000 approx & multicore base m4 is 15,288 and m3pro (11 core) is 14,043. This plus other pros makes m4 a better option, imo

[@Arvindkumar-zm7gc]

I was waiting for your video on M4 .

[@bhanusharma233]

nice video josh!!

[@JustineCooksVegan]

Thank you guys for this video!! I actually just bought a 14 in. MacBook Pro m3 max with 14/30 GPU & 36 ram for video editing but I did notice it using a lot of memory and gets warm already on the trackpad...I'm wondering if upgrading to an MacBook m4 pro chip with 14/20 GPU & 48 ram would be a worth upgrade for video editing? I see you recommended the Max chip but it only comes with 36 gb ram. I wasn't sure if it's better to have a MAX chip with a little more Gpu or take a little loss with GPU and get some more ram and the newest m4 pro chip? Thanks in advance to anyone who has advice!! ☺️🙏🏼

[@JustJoshTech]

I have the same laptop and the same issue. I will absolutely test this when I get the new ones in. So hang tight Justine

[@JustineCooksVegan]

@ thanks for letting me know! I look forward to your reviews! 🙌🏼My return window ends tmro so will probably return and hope the M4s don’t have that issue. Do you think an m4 pro with 48 ram would potentially be sufficient for video editing, or would an Max chip configuration be a better option? Thank you! ☺️

[@JustJoshTech]

@JustineCooksVegan I would get a max chip for sure for the 2 media engines. I doubt you need more than 36gb memory for video editing

[@hiddenau]

Would be interesting to see a comparison between a M1 Pro to the base m4

[@LashonEvans216]

When she started talking i thought the video got accidentally sped up 🤣🤣

[@statebased]

Good timing, having spent yesterday evening and this morning reviewing the options, I agree with the review, the only unknown: what killer ML apps will need the 48G of memory. I can well imagine real time feedback that depends on a "large" in memory local model.

[@dev.sharif]

To be honest I ONLY watched your video about the new M4 MacBook until now, I can only trust you other videos might be good but I'd like to not see nonsense about apple everyone says just for getting views.

[@Ozzymandius1]

I think Apple made a mistake in the press release regarding the RAM for the M4 Pro chip. Similar to the mistake they made with the Mac mini in saying that it was able to support 8K120. That was wrong.

[@mwd6478]

Cutting through the hype, great job as always

[@ZombieRofl]

I've seen allot of Apple M4 content, and must say that you really shown your extra effort. Keep it up!

[@IoannisStavrou-w1e]

Kudos Josh! Your ademic and professional background are obvious on your channel. I am a Professor of Medicine and you really helped me a lot in choosing what laptop is the best for my needs.

[@fuzzylogix]

You both are amazing with in depth knowledge.. subscribed .. Fazal from India

[@tivtag]

What about: display response times, PWM flickering and FRC Dithering? Also: Windows 11 on Arm performance in Parallels. How is it to work with common developer tools like Visual Studio in a VM? Please test these! Thanks 🎉

[@iclonethefirst]

I know that you mainly do laptop reviews, but could you compare the MacBooks to the new Mini in terms of price and value? It would immensely help me with my purchase decision between the two.

[@TinoBurset]

Top quality content as usual Josh 🔥

[@HomesickMac]

Oops, now you’ve just made me think twice about the configuration I was just (Josh) about to order. I thought the absolute best deal for me was the MB Pro with 14/20, 48GB memory and a 1TB SSD… Then Sierra (right? Nor Sarah..) stated the Pro Max with the 14/32, 36GB memory would be best for video editing. So now you gotta help me. This is of course a more expensive option but I’m upgrading from an M1 Mac Mini because I realized I need a laptop after all. Since I usually buy a machine that’ll last me long, and I’m editing video a lot, it would be a thing to do. But my editing is not more than 2-3 cameras 4K footage and no fancy effects, and I’m also editing photos in various apps (no Adobe products) where I noticed my M1 Mini (w.16GB memory) struggled frequently. So is the GPU that significantly better in the Max (at 14/32) compared to the Pro (14/20) for me? The reason I’m still trying to play cheap(er) is that I also need to get a Deck Link (4HDMI card) and an enclosure to that which is around $900… Thanks whoever finds the time to reply!

[@szigetiszabolcs9640]

If I’m planning to keep it for like 8-10 years, do you think 24GB is enough? I will be using it for office work, web browsing, watching movies etc…

[@JustJoshTech]

I definitely think so. Plenty

[@saulbecerra5830]

Question: should u wait till the new MacBook drop to buy an m2 pro one, or the price will nothing change at all?

[@maxhill9254]

I very much appreciate that you guys mention the details. that's really important to someone like me 👍

[@TriniTrent]

What's the difference between the 14 inch base M4 Max and the 16 inch base M4 Max other than screen size? Does it have better cooling or something extra?

[@JustJoshTech]

It does. And will likely perform a bit better

[@TriniTrent]

@ I feel really curious about the key differences between the two sizes. Please include that on your hands on review!

[@4b978]

@@JustJoshTech does it apply also for mac pro chips (e.g. 14CPU20GPU) when it comes to thermal throttling on 14'' and 16'' version? Thanks for the content, subscribed.

[@john_murch]

Mac Pro mid 2012 user here. Time for an upgrade? What do you all think?

[@avalotikeshwara6136]

You "missed" the M1, you "missed" the M2 etc...what impact did that have on you? What huge changes in CPU needs happened in the software you use? Don't let some youtuber's advertisement video mess with your psyche and make you buy "processor power" that you don't need.

[@john_murch]

Answer: I am definitely in need of an upgrade, and have been for quite awhile. I will wait until I've seen a number of reviews before I decide on my exact configuration. I will not be deterred! 😀

[@KilliOKrew]

Im trying to pick the best cpu to handle computational tasks and my professional social science research. I will be working with large sets of data and expect it to be able to handle quite a few tasks at once. Do you think the M4 Pro is going to be able to go above and beyond for someone with those needs?

[@KilliOKrew]

My 2018 MacBook Pro 15” bricked a few days ago and I’m sad to say goodbye, but want to make the proper upgrade

[@adamandsarahquinn]

For graphic designers and video editors using an older MBP, is it worth grabbing an M4 or is there a model of M3 we should consider for similar performance at a discounted price?

[@hawking1989]

MBP M3 Pro base model 18GB of RAM

[@N8Catona]

Honestly waiting for the M4 MacBook air to see if I even need to upgrade from my M1 Air

[@RodrigoFerreira-bs6hd]

I can buy an M2 Pro 14" MBP for the same price as this new M4 base model (1800€). That's a much better deal, right?

[@CycleDoc675]

If that video doesn't "Make your mother proud," I don't know what will. You saved her from getting scammed into an Apple credit card with the usual 29.99% APR and a Macbook M4 she didn't need! Great video!

[@PerpetualPreponderer]

Eagerly awaiting your review, am currently using an M1 Pro 16/512. Its just about enough for my needs, but the keyboard and palmrest areas are so often warm to the touch. If there aren't any such issues with the M4 Pro one, I might just trade up or something...

[@stevewilson6211]

The MacBook Pro laptop (14-inch) - Apple M4 chip on apples store has two different M4 pro processors 1- Apple M4 Pro chip with 12-core CPU, 16-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine 2- Apple M4 Pro chip with 14-core CPU, 20-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine for an additional $200 What are the reasons to spend the additional $200 Please help me make an informed decision I trust your judgment

[@SridharKatakam]

Same question here.

[@LordAbe679]

Josh, seems to be tremendously relieved that Apple MacBook Pros and Airs come with a standard 16 GB of RAM. I am looking forward to the full on review and breakdown soon.

[@walkmanbg]

what do you think about an upgrade from m1 PRO 10 CPU, 16 GPU to m4 10 CPU, 10 GPU? I am not using it for any video or photo editing - mainly devops, programming things? I am thinking of getting the base 14 pro with m4 because the m1 pro is 3 years old now.