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Just Some Guy

Just Some Guy

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@glprime2814
@glprime2814 5 жыл бұрын
In the words of Raging Golden Eagle, “Kick them out of our fandoms, or they will take over and kick us out.”
@NTBXP1
@NTBXP1 5 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@mysteriousmistere3641
@mysteriousmistere3641 5 жыл бұрын
Amen
@JohnnyMcJim
@JohnnyMcJim 5 жыл бұрын
I want to, but I don't know how :'(
@MyRickyjoe
@MyRickyjoe 5 жыл бұрын
He has been saying that for years now and it hasn't changed a thing. Who is he speaking to? His own echo chamber? Ever heard of a "purity spiral"? Every nerd community I interact with already dismisses disingenuous concern trolls(mostly gamergate splinter groups, I don't get along with normie "nerds"), I don't understand how we are supposed to take that any further without becoming the monster we hate. And I don't see how it applies to comicsgate, as it is literally the most successful anti-SJW alliance of its kind, who are we kicking out exactly? The people who work for Marvel who want nothing to do with us? I don't understand. Can we shit or get off the pot already? Where are we going with this?
@berserkhunter1981
@berserkhunter1981 5 жыл бұрын
@@mysteriousmistere3641 Amen indeed
@jackofallclaws6672
@jackofallclaws6672 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing that JSG is guilty of...is being as brutally honest and funny as hell.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 5 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@TSPH1992
@TSPH1992 4 жыл бұрын
This
@abigailslade3824
@abigailslade3824 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@MarioMoss69
@MarioMoss69 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@devilsadvocacypress3151
@devilsadvocacypress3151 5 жыл бұрын
You know he's really mad if he doesn't end with "what do I know? I'm just some guy"
@thebigg8454
@thebigg8454 5 жыл бұрын
I was gonna make my own comic but I'm worried people will think I'm trying to be woke because the main characters are people of different ethnicities. I'm Jamaican I don't know anything other than my own culture and what I see of the rest of the world using the internet. My views are limited so I work with what I can mold with the easiest. But the story isn't about race, at its core it's about why people "think is a hero". I mean, growing up I always saw the wide contrast between Hero's like batman and superman and thought "why are these two Hero's? " Powers? No, batman has no powers. Revenge? No, batman and superman refuse to kill. Fame? No. Batman stays in the shadows and superman hates being looked on as a idol. It's why he tries to act human. So I why are they Hero's I asked myself. Because, they CHOOSE to do good. That's it. That's all it takes. Being a Hero is the choosing to do good. Not preaching or virtue signaling, just getting up and do the thing you wished other were kind enough to do. That's my story. A girl who tries to find the meaning of being a Hero as she is slowing learning the ropes from a the "retired" hero ,Iconic. The thing is In my world there is no powers, just people with guts, adrenaline, will power and blood. Lots and LOTS of blood. She's actually very cowardly on the inside but holds up the front of courage to motivate the people who expect her to be brave for them. She's actually somewhat inspired by cartoon and anime characters like courage the cowardly dog and eventually vash the stampede . She's not naturally bold, but can be brave when she see's something she finds precious is in danger and will go above and beyond what her body can manage to pull them out of harms way, that's her Courage the dog side. She has a hard time understanding why people just can't help each other instead of kill as a first response and she views the lives of all people even her enemies as on the same level of value as hers so she'd actually go out of her way to save the bad guys life if she could prevent another senseless death. That's her Vash side. She's basically a shonen protagonist in comic form
@TCGCasper
@TCGCasper 5 жыл бұрын
The Big G yo make your comic, if your not trying to be woke or push an agenda then it won’t come off that way. We need more people trying to tell good stories - doesn’t matter the race of the creator or characters - just tell the story you think people will read. And if people get on you for the race of the characters tell them to read something else because this is what you wanna writing about
@Mariusweeddeath
@Mariusweeddeath 5 жыл бұрын
Write it. I doubt anyone is going to complain about whatever ethnicity the characters are so long as the story is first and foremost focus of the comic book. So long as its written well, the character are either likable, relate-able or fun to read about and whatever world your in makes sense; people aren't going to think you're woke. They'll just be thinking about your story and that's the goal. Godspeed.
@TheDandyMann
@TheDandyMann 5 жыл бұрын
That's doesn't sound woke at all and I think most who would actually read it would learn it's not about race at all, just the characters merits, strengths, and weaknesses and how they work through them. Only those who haven't read it would think it's woke.
@likonatera7452
@likonatera7452 5 жыл бұрын
I say Do It. Show them how it's done.
@SuperDude-ul4vi
@SuperDude-ul4vi 5 жыл бұрын
I would definitely read a comic like that because it sounds like a good story that I would enjoy reading so I say go ahead and make that comic the way you want to and so long as you do your best to make a good story you'll do great
@luigikiller123
@luigikiller123 5 жыл бұрын
It’s Richard and Some Guy who seem to be the only ones with some integrity when doing reviews and giving their honest opinions on authors no matter the political alignment or beliefs in general. Thank you for reminding people what individualism is, dude. Thank you!
@Vyktym76
@Vyktym76 5 жыл бұрын
Who's Richard? Always looking for new people to hear from.
@luigikiller123
@luigikiller123 5 жыл бұрын
Vyktym 76 that is diversity and comics, great channel.
@5H4D0W-TP
@5H4D0W-TP 5 жыл бұрын
@@Vyktym76 it's the guys who reviews comics on his crotch and put people on suicide watch.
@divinerydia8765
@divinerydia8765 5 жыл бұрын
Thatstarwarsgirl laid it heavy on EVS comic. She was very authintic.
@Mr.VonStoogle
@Mr.VonStoogle 5 жыл бұрын
@JerseyHellspawn yeah dont send them to the leech Jon Del Arroz.
@Protocurity
@Protocurity 5 жыл бұрын
The best metaphor I've heard for why gatekeeping is good is this: Imagine that you own a restaurant. Not a famous one. Just your own little restaurant. Now, as the store owner, you can let anyone you want in, and you can keep anyone you want out. Of course, you let everyone in. Why wouldn't you? A dollar is a dollar after all. No fuss no muss. Eventually, you're going to get a collection of people who like to eat your particular style of food regularly coming in. Why those people? Who knows. But you're doing alright, so it's no big deal. But then, somebody else comes in. This person usually goes to other stores, but they're here now for some reason. Also, this person doesn't act like anyone else does. This person is annoying. They complain constantly. So what? You've got a stiff upper lip. But then... they get aggressive. They start insulting the other customers. They start shouting at you and the kitchen staff. They start threatening you with bad press and their nebulous friends. They demand that you change your menu, and that you hire them and their friends. Their reason? In so many words, "You're evil, everyone who eats here is evil, you're all hurting the entire world, and if you don't hire us and change your menu we will punish you for it." What would any reasonable restaurant owner do? They'd throw them out of the store, and then ban them from ever coming in. That person, and all of the people like them, are not welcome in your restaurant anymore, because they want to ruin everything and are generally disagreeable with the population at large. The customers will thank you for it, and everything will work better without the ousted people there. This is... pretty much how it goes with businesses, communities, hobbies, and any general way to categorize a group of people. It is not the act of gatekeeping that is evil. To paraphrase the quote manufacturing machine Thomas Sowell, "Ideas are neither good nor evil. Intentions are evil." Not gatekeeping is not morally superior to gatekeeping, and frankly it isn't functionally superior, either. The real difference is where and how gatekeeping is used, to what end it is used for. An SJW gatekeeps to fundamentally change a community and what they're organized around to become about their incredibly warped worldview. A regular person gatekeeps to retain a community, to preserve what they're organized around, and to keep it accessible to everyone who _doesn't want to destroy it._ If you claim that you have a set of values, but do nothing to protect them, then you don't really have those values. Being inclusive is not a virtue. It piggybacks off of the real virtues that our forefathers held. The reality is that you should never suspend your ability to discern jerkwads from normal people, because "inclusivity."
@juniorjunior5884
@juniorjunior5884 5 жыл бұрын
It's like conflict, the act isn't good or evil either. If you or something you love is being attacked then fighting back is the proper thing to do. If you can't be bothered to do your part to enforce peace then you have no right to complain when things go to shit, nor do you get to pat yourself on the back while others do the work of preserving order.
@asarishepard8171
@asarishepard8171 5 жыл бұрын
the restaurant analogy is correct. very correct.
@Zinlain
@Zinlain 5 жыл бұрын
I tried discussing this with a friend who will not look at any news regarding this stuff and has decided it isn't really a problem because other people she knows dont talk about it, and that I am looking to be angry(which I am not, often times I am actually just laughing at how dumb some of the proposed SJW ideologies would play out. I.E. that article that claimed the implied sex between Steve Trevor and Diana was rape because she didn't verbally consent onscreen). So I tried to ask the question "if people fundamentally change the thing you enjoy, what do you do? Discuss it? Try to fight the change? or Abandon something you have cherished for years?" with the specific analog of toxic shippers managing to get jobs with creative control over her favorite series kingdom hearts. Her response was to claim that it could never happen and that my hypothetical might as well included them taking over the world. Your restaurant analogy is much, MUCH more concise. I think i may try to use it next time I find myself in a discussion.
@asarishepard8171
@asarishepard8171 5 жыл бұрын
@@Zinlain dude this is very apt. I have tried to ignore in some areas but where it fringes on my beloved movies, even books, and video games, ya gone too far and they creeped on in. and I HATE IT.
@siphiwekaunda4032
@siphiwekaunda4032 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good metaphor.
@dbsommers1
@dbsommers1 5 жыл бұрын
"I act like the smartest guy in the room because I am. Unfortunately I'm not that smart, which says a lot about you." Also "Movements are for toilets and San Francisco streets."
@jovenc4508
@jovenc4508 5 жыл бұрын
I feel that first statement about the entire building I work in every day.
@ArcherWarhound
@ArcherWarhound 4 жыл бұрын
You're second statement is redundant; San Francisco streets are all just one open toilet at this point.
@shaneyy__
@shaneyy__ 4 жыл бұрын
ArcherWarhound I thought it was an earthquake joke.
@marshmallowvampire8503
@marshmallowvampire8503 4 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaaiiiiiimmm
@koimonsterkhaos6329
@koimonsterkhaos6329 5 жыл бұрын
"Give a man a mask, he'll show you his true face"
@thatguybrody4819
@thatguybrody4819 4 жыл бұрын
give me a mask and i'll show you a more energetic side of me, but i'll only reveal my true self if completely alone. i don't think people could handle the amount of autistic ADHD i output.
@jwchampagne1
@jwchampagne1 5 жыл бұрын
"But that shit ain't the truth." Great riff on a classic monologue. Seriously: when someone tells me I MUST assent to something because I'm "x" - even if I'm naturally sympathetic, even if I might agree absent being forced - that's game over. Anyone who says I MUST be on one side or else I'm on the other - GTFO. The SJWs earned my contempt for that kind of reasoning. I won't accept it from people "on my side", either.
@howdoyoudo5949
@howdoyoudo5949 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Cobra_Kumanda
@Cobra_Kumanda 5 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@benthemother3fan884
@benthemother3fan884 5 жыл бұрын
Can't lie jsg is kinda scary when he's being serious
@asiergrant7088
@asiergrant7088 5 жыл бұрын
Just Some Guy: Outclassed you with his WITS and CLASS
@2centsonpt
@2centsonpt 5 жыл бұрын
he outclassed them by sheer integrity alone, he calls out all the bs and reiterates his original standpoint, if he was a "shill" or was being disingenuous he would have backtracked or used apologetic framing... but he doesn't.. why? because the boy has integrity in his reviews.
@jackdaalfbrainork6392
@jackdaalfbrainork6392 5 жыл бұрын
Asier Grant in complete honesty *twitter should be thrown out the window*
@Canalus
@Canalus 5 жыл бұрын
Remember that scene in Life of Brian when Brian is running away from the Romans and everyone is trying to make him into a Messiah and completely misunderstanding what he says, or taking it literally? Yeah, that's what you're experiencing now. Monty Python knew.
@indyvisualist
@indyvisualist 5 жыл бұрын
@Stripey Arse That was the first NPC, you found patient 0, maybe we can came up with a cure! YEAHHHHHHHH!!!!!
@Soridan
@Soridan 5 жыл бұрын
@@indyvisualist The "I'm not" guy was the only individual in a sea of blind followers though. If anything he was the only non-NPC there.
@Jason_Black
@Jason_Black 5 жыл бұрын
Some of this _Who gatekeeps the gatekeepers_ stuff is going right over my head. I feel like I'm missing some nuance? I'm not gonna tell some kid that because they see the world differently they can't be on my side. I just wanted comics to stop condescending to people for having different views.
@ravoln2457
@ravoln2457 5 жыл бұрын
No nuance, just pseudo intellectuals and people who hate success in others. God I hate those oh so haughty philosophers of yore. Their bleeding hearts and false naivety makes me sick.
@FURognar
@FURognar 5 жыл бұрын
its not about side. its about interaction. when you are engaging in your hobby, you want to engage with people who like the hobby in the same way you do. if someone comes into your space and wants to change the way your group is engaging with the hobby, it makes perfect sense that people will have a problem with these changes. if your friends like to talk Shonen manga and someone comes in trying to change the subject to Shoujo manga, it makes sense you would want that person to go away. they dont fit in your group.
@Jason_Black
@Jason_Black 5 жыл бұрын
Well said. But that would still only call for a polite reminder that we're talking about one right now, not the other. I don't want to see the Shoujo people kicked to the curb? I want to see SJWism out of all comics (manga included.) My argument isn't about seeing the individuals gone, I want to see the behaviour changed.
@ravoln2457
@ravoln2457 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jason_Black Use the same tactics against them that they employ against normal people. The world is not a nice place and unfortunately individuals comprise ideologies. That would mean seeing individuals gone. Incinerate anything they have touched and do not even for a moment consider them to be in good faith. They have already given up on everyone that isn't one of them. Everyone is a Nazi that needs to be punched in their eyes. Never forget that it was peoples laziness that let these spoiled adult sized children to be the pain in our arse today.
@FURognar
@FURognar 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jason_Black heck, the SJWs can have their own comics. thats always been a thing. but what the SJWs shouldnt do is take over mainstream superhero comics. which is reflected in the sales. the mass market doesnt want them. but they arent satisfied with the indie scene. they want it all. sure I am okay with the Shoujo fan hanging around *if they also like shonen manga*, but if they dont, why are they hanging out with us? why dont they go hang out with other people who like shoujo manga?
@reliuskaiser
@reliuskaiser 5 жыл бұрын
"What could he possibly do? He's JustSomeGuy." Those be famous last words, my dude.
@iDEATH
@iDEATH 5 жыл бұрын
Social media is stupid. Drama is even more stupid. I've said if before, but I'll say it again now, CG is just (or should be) a loose community gathered around a very simple ethos: 1. good comics that don't read like any kind of propaganda 2. respect; for the consumer who allows you to make a living creating comics, and when applicable, the properties and legacies of the creators who came before you No one has to even say they are CG. This little internal struggle is pointless. Both sides should just walk away and focus on making comics. The consumers will be the final arbiters anyways; this drama is ultimately just a distraction.
@Muck006
@Muck006 5 жыл бұрын
@Confusing Zark The problem is EVS HAS added "an iron rule" to his version of ComicsGate ... which created drama: ABSOLUTELY ZERO POLITICS in comics ... which is stupid because it blocks all "mutant registration act" storylines. This has been the reason for beef with Timothy Lim which was the first split in CG because Ethan is the one who is narrow-minded and transferred that mindset to their attitude on what CG is about. Ethan himself says "Richard defines what CG is about" ... but five seconds after Zack gives his definition Ethan gives his own one which is the narrow-minded version.
@vlo4829
@vlo4829 5 жыл бұрын
@Muck006: No, people asked Ethan what ComicsGate was to him and he gave his response. It was not "an iron rule" as you describe. You are acting just like Just Some Guy said; YOU are making Ethan's opinion your own "Iron Clad Rule". Ethan never ousted Tim Lim from ComicsGate or said that he wasn't ComicsGate. He did later admit that he can see in retrospect how his response made people like Tim feel and that he should have given more thought to his wording but of course what was said was said and Tim's weird "glove" operation makes mending fences difficult. Ethan was also talking about sustainability and mapping the future, and he's right about Trump comics. They are really only sustainable as long as Trump is in office. How long after can you realistically continue to write such comics and maintain a reader base? Trump comics are very dated. A movement away from the mainstream has to be based on more timeless stories.
@Muck006
@Muck006 5 жыл бұрын
@@vlo4829 Oh come off it. You are TRYING to justify this as "just Ethan's opinion" ... but that simply shows that Ethan NEVER UNDERSTOOD what CG is about ... GOOD stories WITHOUT politics SHOVED INTO YOUR FACE. The simpleton solution is "zero politics", but there are loads of storylines which you cant tell with that rule ... and Ethan never understood that because he is DUMB and doesnt recognize nuance. And now you are one of his fanboys who is the reason for the rifts in CG ... because Ethan cant be criticised. Thanks for telling me that I am just like Just Some Guy ... because that means I dont fall into the "blind idiotic FANBOY" trap. Grow up ... and learn to criticise your idols and accept where they are wrong ... unless you like being a RELIGIOUS ZEALOT (just like the SJWs, feminists, globalists/capitalists, ...).
@vlo4829
@vlo4829 5 жыл бұрын
@Much006: lol All I did was correct your false iteration of how Ethan's statement about politics came about. You can call me names, but I'm right, so maybe you are the one who needs to "come off it" and "grow up". I didn't say you are like Just Some Guy. I said you're like the people he's talking about. You are the one claiming Ethan's word is law and then getting mad about it. You wanted Ethan to say YOUR definition, just like people want Just Some Guy to agree with them that Ethan is a rat and his books sucks, and you're upset with Ethan for not saying everything you believe and they're upset with JSG. I disagreed with you (or rather corrected you) and therefore I must be "a fanboy", "a ZEALOT", and "everything wrong with CG!" Clearly you think and care about Ethan A LOT more than I do and why? If he's a "dummy" who "never understood what CG is about" then why do you need him to agree with you? Why do you hold him up so high? For me, I can disagree with Ethan and other people without demonizing them. I don't require everyone to agree with me about everything... Like a normal person. You seem to be struggling with that and projecting a lot of that onto me here and to Ethan regarding CG. Just chill out. Stop taking everything on the internet personally.
@jeangentry6656
@jeangentry6656 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@jackobrien47
@jackobrien47 5 жыл бұрын
This is why ya Boi Zack is the only one I follow. He always manages to avoid all the drama and just does his own thing. He's the only righteous man on the internet.
@overlordtealover1128
@overlordtealover1128 3 жыл бұрын
JSG is making a good point though, he's saying that both sides are being being plain stupid.
@thebigg8454
@thebigg8454 5 жыл бұрын
It's very easy to to write a comic that strikes all the "standards" of the SJWs, just make a Japanese dude write a manga. And then have twitter translate one dub and shonen jump translate the official Dub. There, fixed it
@ThatUmbrellaGuy
@ThatUmbrellaGuy 5 жыл бұрын
HEY THERE - some of these folks are seriously saying that we should platform Zoe Quinn and others now bc 'COMICSGATE is a platform for everyone.' Wait - what? I'd rather gargle glass than pretend these people haven't screwed up our hobbies, and inviting them in? Make me.
@gothamknight7965
@gothamknight7965 5 жыл бұрын
Matty you are so full of shit.
@simpletonapollo9723
@simpletonapollo9723 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Platform Zoe Quinn, the same bimbo that killed a motherfucker. (even though it was indirectly, blood is still on her hands)
@MrCarlosj0
@MrCarlosj0 5 жыл бұрын
@@simpletonapollo9723 thats two deaths. Dont forget Vertigo.
@Soridan
@Soridan 5 жыл бұрын
@Happy HarblThis. GG made the same mistake and quickly became a joke/farce. Also Jesus, haven't seen the word harbl in ages. I didn't need this nostalgia.
@BrightWulph
@BrightWulph 5 жыл бұрын
Twitter is on it's way to becoming the New Tumblr...or is it already too late?
@henryjenkins2839
@henryjenkins2839 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, it’s far too late...
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 5 жыл бұрын
Twitter is a mistake.
@henryjenkins2839
@henryjenkins2839 5 жыл бұрын
*Steel Beam* Facebook too.
@mrpurple11
@mrpurple11 5 жыл бұрын
Late. Actually by comparison tumblr has become chiller in comparison bc the radical cells migrated to Twitter.
@Danahell
@Danahell 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing that the porn and degenerate people fled from Tumblr and many went to Twitter, along with the crazy SJWs, I'd say it's already too late. Now we wait until it crashes and burns.
@nathanhogan6873
@nathanhogan6873 5 жыл бұрын
for me comics, games and other media is escapism, i go there to get away from politics, religion and other things in the real world i need a break from. thanks for doing what you do to stand up for people like me who want to protect the things we hold dear to us.
@TSPH1992
@TSPH1992 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I don't care if the writer or developer is a jew, a Christian or an Asian. I don't care about their gender either. What I care about is the quality of the game, the story, artwork and character development
@thefreshestslice4105
@thefreshestslice4105 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, that opening.
@chrisw6164
@chrisw6164 5 жыл бұрын
Fix this now.
@Sweetcast
@Sweetcast 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is great. I'm rethinking a few things.
@popstarprincess123
@popstarprincess123 5 жыл бұрын
Sweetcast hi Clint
@Trencher1375
@Trencher1375 5 жыл бұрын
"Captain Childsupport" lol!
@henryferkey4505
@henryferkey4505 5 жыл бұрын
Rock--hard, stone-cold and crystal-clear honesty. Thank you for your time and effort.
@Windora13
@Windora13 5 жыл бұрын
dont really comment on your videos but you pretty much hit the nail on the head on why i didnt like the comicsgate label as it would lead to this sort of thing
@MrRobot-0
@MrRobot-0 5 жыл бұрын
The only label that i acept is the "fucking weeb" because is a extremly losely organised group o hiperactive fucknut ho wil stat shit and heneraly have a good time, like 40K orks
@kalystagutierrez1607
@kalystagutierrez1607 5 жыл бұрын
I love when you back talk! It's so fun to listen to!
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, I must have missed a lot because DAYUM! And good points on this; sometimes....ya just gotta cut it. When the drama gets too much and the original message is lost, you just have to cut it before it drives you insane. Still for improving comics and all that but inner drama isn't going to help anyone.
@lewiebennett282
@lewiebennett282 5 жыл бұрын
I came for the reviews but stayed for the rants. It’s so nice to know that they’re are people in this community who still have common sense.
@rickwj324
@rickwj324 5 жыл бұрын
I don't do Twitter at all so I may be a little lost on this. I know you are one of the most well spoken, right minded individuals I've had the pleasure of listening to. I could listen to you speak for days!!
@Bradman1978
@Bradman1978 5 жыл бұрын
Is it a bad thing that I don't know what JSG is talking about? I never go on social media.
@residentantagonist5352
@residentantagonist5352 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, summer child... Stay pure, don't walk the twisted path of Twitter.
@connercampbell9086
@connercampbell9086 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty great, huh?
@Clash-wn3lr
@Clash-wn3lr 5 жыл бұрын
Lucky bastard. Im debating getting off of twitter entirely
@thesplendor8654
@thesplendor8654 5 жыл бұрын
+Brad Gardner Same here. I will never be a part of the vacuums that are those social media sites. Only school makes me check on Facebook. Keep strong, sir.
@jwb2814
@jwb2814 4 жыл бұрын
Brad Gardner I don’t either, but he still insightful, truthful and funny as hell.
@stephanc6138
@stephanc6138 5 жыл бұрын
you learn via fighting your own battles. sure, it'd be great having people fighting with you but you've got to learn. how to fight. when to retreat how to lick your wounds and learn lessons. doing that gains you expierence....and a thicker hide.
@NerdettesNewsStand
@NerdettesNewsStand 5 жыл бұрын
Respect!
@dandhan87
@dandhan87 5 жыл бұрын
Jules is my favourite movie character ever, that Intro was fire and Twitter is full of psychopaths
@KennyGordon
@KennyGordon 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even know what's going on, other than folks splintering into factions. It's whatever. Nothing inherently wrong with that, when you consider some friendships have an expiration date. That goes especially for groups on the Internet. Something like this will always have splintering. The thing that gets on my nerves is that the conversation switched from unprofessionalism in mainstream comics to schism within CG. It's around every corner.
@winslowfriday4987
@winslowfriday4987 5 жыл бұрын
As much as I love EVS and his usual crew for the comics and banter they supply, they get caught up in this drama and bullshit a lot. You, Ya Boi Zach, and YoungRippa are the only three I've noticed with unique and genuine insight into the philosophy/motivations behind these type of obsessions without getting super caught up in it. Zach used to but since he got off Twitter his videos have been significantly more meaningful and interesting lately and though I don't always agree with him it's nice to hear his differing perspective on things. Keep it up man, you're doing great work.
@birthdayfruitecake8158
@birthdayfruitecake8158 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I'd like to see people do more is to see people as a cluster of individuals instead of cloned bricks of a polarized group.
@marioreyes6471
@marioreyes6471 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know you were from Chicago. South side of the city would have Twitter scared to death.
@DGolden247
@DGolden247 5 жыл бұрын
Most comments: “Damn that opening” Me, an intellectual: Damn this entire video, I just witnessed some cut throat slap back, and I’m here for it.
@morgansheepman2403
@morgansheepman2403 5 жыл бұрын
I have nothing intelligent to say, just here to increase viewer interaction
@jwb2814
@jwb2814 4 жыл бұрын
Morgan Sheepman And for algorithm purposes.
@katyushamarikov8819
@katyushamarikov8819 5 жыл бұрын
Me: *completely unaware of drama because I watch Ya Boi Zack who doesn't deal in drama*
@gamecitysavior2910
@gamecitysavior2910 5 жыл бұрын
When you walk into a room and Just Some Guy is going Bruce Lee on all his haters. Get'em, lol.
@fenrir607
@fenrir607 5 жыл бұрын
I said it once, and I'll say it a thousand more times! Twitter is for twits! And are they implying that SJWs actually READ comics? Lol! Best joke I've heard all day. Next they'll say SJWs play games and watch movies too!
@LordGrim1313
@LordGrim1313 5 жыл бұрын
You are pretty much the only comic KZbinr I haven't dropped since ComicsGate started specifically because you don't touch that nonsense. Neither for nor against. Side note: in interviews with both Mark Waid and Alex Ross, Waid had basically nothing to do with Kingdom Come. Ross hated Waid so much he refused to work with him on The Kingdom, and later got to do his own sequel in Thy Kingdom Come which was leagues better than Waids The Kingdom.
@Travis-ig7bx
@Travis-ig7bx 5 жыл бұрын
Jaw broken and you walk the same street. I like you dude. You have strong principles and you don't jump to conclusions. I need more folks like you in my feed.
@Sousabird
@Sousabird 5 жыл бұрын
Whole lotta tism on Twitter
@JasonGodwin69
@JasonGodwin69 5 жыл бұрын
Femintism
@eyesofthewolf101
@eyesofthewolf101 5 жыл бұрын
The tism is strong with twitter
@TSPH1992
@TSPH1992 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I don't use it
@alexanderkeltz1596
@alexanderkeltz1596 5 жыл бұрын
Ya know, I'm Im not into comics, I'm simply here for your laser focused, crushing rebuttals. And the common sense. I miss that.
@danwill9467
@danwill9467 5 жыл бұрын
This man has an etiquette I could never had, I would've popped off
@itsxora3207
@itsxora3207 5 жыл бұрын
Is this not popping off?
@Mr.VonStoogle
@Mr.VonStoogle 5 жыл бұрын
@itsXora Not really
@Clash-wn3lr
@Clash-wn3lr 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly? Same. It's why my engagement is simply mocking and playful. If I actually get angry, well, the janitor will need a vacuum to pick up the pieces.
@delkracko8139
@delkracko8139 5 жыл бұрын
Stop they are already dead! Seriously this is the problem with "communities" and fandoms.
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 5 жыл бұрын
Aw shit, someone's pissed off Just Some Guy something fierce.
@StaceyGardner
@StaceyGardner 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. If people want to be apart of the gaming world and behave, they can stay. If they inject politics, they can get out or be called out for their crap.
@lordslugthemastermind6108
@lordslugthemastermind6108 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I always say that human emotions are fickle things. They can swing at any direction. But the most important thing is that emotions can bite you in the ass whenever they want.
@ComicBookRadio
@ComicBookRadio 5 жыл бұрын
Let's say that gatekeeping is the answer. How would you do it? How do you prevent someone from having an opinion on something and expressing that opinion? Outrage culture? Cancel culture? Aren't we already there? Is it just an endless back and forth of that until nothing is left? If you figure out the "how" and think it can be sustainable and to the benefit of all, at that point the next question then is "should". Because should you do all those things to gatekeep... when does it end and who decides where the line is and what the qualifications are? Not to mention, once you start gatekeeping, it's incredibly easy to infiltrate. Especially with the anonymity of the internet. Paranoia becomes the default mindset of the gatekeeper and at that time, implosion occurs and no one can tell who is friend or foe. This is why gatekeeping always leads to a struggle for power and control. The only answer I can see working in the long run, without the need for gatekeeping, is the one that already exists. Shine a light on the products you enjoy, the creators doing good work or at least trying to, and the companies doing things the right way. Shine a light on how things are going wrong, sure, but if we constantly push people away from something and give them reasons to leave, we shouldn't be surprised when no one really wants to stay. Which of course, makes it easier for detractors to gain ground because there's no one there to oppose them with competing products or marketshare. There's a ton of great things happening right now. We should be striving to push towards an open and free market without gatekeepers. Gatekeeping, limiting choices, controlling trends, and crushing competition with predatory and monopolistic practices -- is how the comic industry got to the point it's currently at. The exodus of mass distribution to the average person, led to comics becoming an incredibly insular echo chamber. The smaller the market gets, the more people will fight fiercely to retain control of their piece of it. Encouraging competition and providing a choice, breaks down the gatekeeping practices that are crippling the comics industry. There will always be people creating, building, and rebuilding what others have destroyed. Supporting those people and those works by lifting them up, enables an alternative to thrive and compete. Customers benefit from it and creators and companies then have to innovate and compete at the highest level to earn the customer's time and money. But what do I know, I'm just some publisher. ;) (I enjoy your videos for the most part and would be open to having you on my show to have a discussion about your thoughts on the subject at large -- all the best to you)
@JustSomeGuy
@JustSomeGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Here's how you do this: if you have a club or group, and someone starts making everything about them and their politics, you ask them to stop. If they keep doing it, you ask them to leave or stop inviting them to group. It's that simple. No one's stopping them from doing these things. They just can't do them with you. Now, when it comes to a business, that gets tricky because a) you can't and shouldn't fire people for their political views, b) these people already run many of the companies, and c) you don't want to exclude politics from creative fields. That said, I think the same rule from above still applies. If someone is constantly turning in stories about the same generic transwoman bashing people in the head, you can ask that person to write something different and if they won't, stop giving them projects. If outside of the project they're constantly going on about their politics, then, given how it affects the company or the workers, you can fire them or not offer a new contract. This is already something people do. The sjws do it to the extreme and for far less, so it is doable.
@ComicBookRadio
@ComicBookRadio 5 жыл бұрын
​@@JustSomeGuy First off, thanks for responding, I appreciate it. This all would be better done in a conversation, but here goes! When I read the above, I immediately think: but do people really want to become what they hate and what they view as wrong? We already see a lot of that now, don't we? It might create a short term change, but there's no long-lasting effects because it's a knee jerk reaction that isn't really thought out. This kind of thing would also be very hard to control because fandom doesn't have a governing body with any authority to say: "you're not welcome". It might be who other people are... but is that who we want to be? Given the option, is that how we want things to be? Without rules that have enforceable consequences, you either get locked into an endless power struggle or everyone just takes their ball and goes home because they're tired of the fighting (which always takes a toll on product creation, sometimes ceasing it completely) and implosion occurs. If the government passed a law tomorrow that allowed for the imprisonment of people for their views on a story, character, creator, or company -- would that be okay? Would that be something to advocate for as long as our "enemies" were the ones being incarcerated? That's a nightmarish dystopia that I don't think anyone truly wants. It's a step in the wrong direction. But that's the way this kind of thing goes. You can't truly stop someone from having an opinion, finding a way to express that opinion, or creating something/destroying something without the authority to imprison. Even when the comics code authority existed, you had an underground and indie movement that made comics without the approval of the CCA. A store can tell an unruly customer to leave, a business can fire someone on grounds of poor performance, negligence, misrepresentation, fraud, etc.. But fandom can't really do anything other than be outraged, express displeasure, boycott, buycott, etc.. If a business wants to stay in business, they'll evaluate what's working and course correct. Sometimes businesses don't do that, sometimes they do, sometimes the course correction comes too late, sometimes nothing should be course corrected because a small but loud subset is being listened to and the business is fooled into thinking a small sample size represents the silent majority. This is all part of a free market society though. People are free to run their businesses into the ground, destroy legacies of those that came before, and use their reach for propaganda. Does that mean any of that is right? Does it mean that that's the best way to run a business? No... but that's how this stuff goes. The best way to fight it is to understand that all you can control is your own spending habits, what you support and don't support, what you create and don't create. What you state in your reply and in your videos, shows that you understand that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. We're at a tipping point right now... whether any of us realize it or not... and what we build or destroy right now, is going to have long-lasting ramifications for generations to come. Let's lead by example, not by force.
@SleepTastesGood
@SleepTastesGood 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I like you JSG- you are a true individual who sticks to his guns. If you think something is right, you stand by it. If you're proven wrong, you admit it. If "your side" is wrong, you don't sugarcoat it. If you're pushed, you push back without worrying about how other people percieve it. Every fandom needs more people like you.
@brianmurphy250
@brianmurphy250 5 жыл бұрын
. You let the whole internet know where you stand. Your up front, honest and consistent. Much respect.
@jurassicroom7673
@jurassicroom7673 5 жыл бұрын
This is literally me right now with my family.
@Danosauruscrecks
@Danosauruscrecks 5 жыл бұрын
Got to have tegridy
@Gotrul117
@Gotrul117 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of one of Rick sanchez quotes. The one about how the councils of ricks being too scared to be fighting the galactic federation and so they formed their own government.
@onup1475
@onup1475 5 жыл бұрын
“YOU SHALL NOT PAAAAAASS” -Gandalf the Gray
@MrRobot-0
@MrRobot-0 5 жыл бұрын
Is more: GET THE FUCK OUT!!! me the weeb
@Adorni
@Adorni 5 жыл бұрын
I get that on the surface, JSG’s statements about gatekeeping sound harsh, but consider this angle: If you were a motorcycle fan, let’s say a Harley man (or woman) and you talked about how much you _loved_ Harleys. You just say all the right things, know about the specs, and all that stuff. And so Harley Davidson notices you and says “you, there! Tell us what you want to see us do with Harley!” And you immediately start spinning a yarn about how Harley’s are too loud, too masculine, too environmentally harmful... basically painting a picture of how much you *HATE* Harley Davidson motorcycles and think “they should be better,” you aren’t a fan, and you don’t care about Harley Davidson. You just want it to be something else, something that isn’t a Harley, but still has the name. Fans will criticize things they like. That will happen. But it’s often in a complimentary fashion. People didn’t like Man of Steel because Superman didn’t act like Superman, not because “Superman is a symbol of Trump’s America” or something stupid like that. A person who claims to be a fan of comic books but can only ever talk about how “problematic” they are because of race, gender, body type, or sexuality doesn’t give a shit about comics. They only care about how they can use comics to serve their own purposes. And I don’t know about you, but I do not want someone who hates what I like in my fandom, messing with my stuff.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap 5 жыл бұрын
The people complaining at JSG thinking he's some kind of authority figure or someone to validate their displeasure towards Ethan I guess. But JSG ain't gonna be their warden or babysitter. He's just some guy and just one guy at that.
@scorch2155
@scorch2155 5 жыл бұрын
and got more respect for you then i did before.
@paleknight1
@paleknight1 5 жыл бұрын
Same here I am tired of this insane drama. I am ironically reading a manga called Beastars that is a drama, but am fed up with this real life industry drama due to insane people.
@LoRukeEX
@LoRukeEX 5 жыл бұрын
I got something to say to you. Well said. :)
@endless3cho
@endless3cho 5 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of those scenes in the movies where you have the ppl saying, "Don't do it, whatever you do, don't EVER open this door!" or "Make sure to keep at least one guard here at ALL times, understand?", and in the very next scene, you see that one MFer walking towards the door and turning the knob; or you see the checkpoint unmanned and the enemy gets through. It's interesting that bcuz of my political ideology I only see ppl as individuals and tend to steer clear of "communities". I agree that CG should just signify ppl that agree on certain principles in relation to comics. There doesn't need to be a leader, a team of generals, any type of hierarchy whatsoever. All opinions should bear the same weight, at least that's how I see it.
@OllieByGolly
@OllieByGolly 5 жыл бұрын
11:11 Before he retired, when George Perez went on a tantrum after the Presidential election and vowed never to appear at another comic book convention in a red state (despite making his home in Florida), I sure as hell didn't sell/trade/throw away all of the old New Teen Titans, Fantastic Four and Avengers comics I grew up with and cherish. For the same reason you stand by Kingdom Come, I can separate the political views of the creator from the good work he or she has done.
@dbsommers1
@dbsommers1 5 жыл бұрын
I'd still have him do artwork on a book of mine, especially a team oriented one. As long as he's not being obnoxious to my face, I don't care what he thinks
@MrCarlosj0
@MrCarlosj0 5 жыл бұрын
Whats funny during his retirement tour he went into red states because thats where remaining comicbook stores have actual customers shopping.
@davidgusquiloor2665
@davidgusquiloor2665 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that intro was just brutal but fair. I don't know exactly how all this problems happened but im glad i don't use Twitter. And of course you have to tell sjw' s how the things really are, otherwise they will start acting like they own the damn place they infiltrated.
@sonicroze
@sonicroze 5 жыл бұрын
@Just Some Guy , I like your integrity, I like what you do. I've disagreed with your opinions at times or some of the particulars... but I agree with you mostly. Especially on this Twitter drama stuff. Congrats on the backbone of steel + 10. I learned when I was a teenager on message boards what a Flame war was. I'm not getting into that shit on Social media. Also, much kudos on rising above circumstances, that's what being an everyday hero is.
@DanWestErupt
@DanWestErupt 5 жыл бұрын
Your video about gatekeeping is probably the best and most true video ever made. Are there seriously people disagreeing with it?! Wtf?!
@tut28Angel
@tut28Angel 5 жыл бұрын
Strange I feel like I have more balls then the twitter bullies. Strange I dont have man parts tho XD
@handlebarfox2366
@handlebarfox2366 5 жыл бұрын
you get a steady audience with integrity, not in whose ego you stroke.
@harveydents
@harveydents 5 жыл бұрын
" Dont make me make a project out of you!" LOL classic!
@juniorjunior5884
@juniorjunior5884 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the final warning before dropping an ether video.
@asarishepard8171
@asarishepard8171 5 жыл бұрын
heheh project out of them :P
@matthewlee8667
@matthewlee8667 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you standing up for yourself as you always do, JSG. I can always count on you to be brutally honest about your views and ideas and I greatly respect you for it. Keep up the good work!
@Ruteger100
@Ruteger100 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for this beautiful display of personal integrity. It really baffles some people.
@greenman3120
@greenman3120 5 жыл бұрын
Come to you to hear no nonsense objective commentary bud keep up the amazing work
@r.s.belcher8704
@r.s.belcher8704 5 жыл бұрын
This was perfect. This encapsulates what's going on in society today, not just in fan culture. I love your channel and your reviews are some of the very best on KZbin. Thanks for speaking truth and walking your own path. We got your back.
@gorkamorka999
@gorkamorka999 5 жыл бұрын
I swear I heard faint coughing in the distance when you said Captain Childsupport. Anyway take a page out of his playbook and ignore twitter idiots and drama and focus on the books and reviews.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just don't respond. Sometimes (or maybe on the internet most of the time) it is just people trying to get a rise out of you. I've had a couple a friends like that with one specifically admitting it. They probably believe it gives them some kind of control or power to manipulate or make you feel a certain way, which gives them their amusement.
@nardopolo7407
@nardopolo7407 5 жыл бұрын
how are you responsible for a damn thing any other creator does cept maybe Zack getting some ice for the burns you give him.
@chadmagnus5850
@chadmagnus5850 5 жыл бұрын
This stuff is why I'm not on Twitter. If I wan't drama, I go to work and listen to my colleagues talk abouttheir jobs, or I watch a movie.
@residentantagonist5352
@residentantagonist5352 5 жыл бұрын
Meh. I'm with ya, we need to have strong gates in the community. Labels don't matter, actions and patterns of behavior matter.
@Muck006
@Muck006 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh .... how have I missed the "Mark S. Zaid, supperattorney at law" ...
@TheShock_Master99
@TheShock_Master99 5 жыл бұрын
You got a badass voice
@saskestheman
@saskestheman 5 жыл бұрын
Damn son. That opening was intimidating.
@nerdyempress6745
@nerdyempress6745 5 жыл бұрын
“I’ll treat you like your name is Krillin.”
@itsxora3207
@itsxora3207 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have context for this but I just appreciate keeping the c names with "captain child support" thank you for your service
@marquisd79
@marquisd79 4 жыл бұрын
I gotcha back homie! Your insights are always welcome. You always seem the hit the nail square on the head. Keep speaking with the intelligence and fortitude that you always bring to the table. Keep them on their heels and in the corner. The more drama the better it just means you are getting to them. So that being said deuces homie!
@nothanks6039
@nothanks6039 5 жыл бұрын
SHOT TOWN!!! Knew i liked you for a reason. Im a midwest man myself. St.louis for life baby.
@TerryB01
@TerryB01 5 жыл бұрын
Why pick a twitter fight with JSG? He stomps ppl like they're weasels on weasel stomping day.
@sirmikalus9923
@sirmikalus9923 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Robot Chicken reference. Love that show as well as that scene😁
@grunge2001
@grunge2001 5 жыл бұрын
🎼All the little girls and boys Love that wonderful crunching noise 🎼You'll know what the post's about When he stomps a weasel's guts right out😁
@nickn4135
@nickn4135 5 жыл бұрын
@@sirmikalus9923 Spread that mayonnaise on the lawn!
@devilsadvocacypress3151
@devilsadvocacypress3151 5 жыл бұрын
@TerryB01 it *is* weasel stomping. It's Twitter.
@SamtheBravesFan
@SamtheBravesFan 5 жыл бұрын
@@nickn4135 Grab your boots and stomp your cares awaaaayyy... Hip hip hooray, it's Weasel Stomping Day!
@b.w.sanders6765
@b.w.sanders6765 5 жыл бұрын
Very sensible position on the whole thing. Hats off to you good sir and to hell with immatures that we are supposed to pretend are adults.
@justaguywithagoodphoto4801
@justaguywithagoodphoto4801 4 жыл бұрын
Found this in my recommendation I am pleased that youtube knows what i want today
@christanner8765
@christanner8765 3 жыл бұрын
Mate, love your work. Yes, I am catching up with your back catalogue.
@thenuclearsandwich
@thenuclearsandwich 5 жыл бұрын
Sad how in one year things have changed in the "community" and not for the better.
@Kal_g
@Kal_g 5 жыл бұрын
Saw this coming not too long ago. And I said to myself, "Did these niggas watch JSG's video all the way through?" "Is context really of the devil?" Also, those "Richard 'insert what the 'C' could stand for' Meyer" jokes are gold. Keep on being you.
@ed022859
@ed022859 5 жыл бұрын
Well done! Keep up the good work.
@quinlewis4314
@quinlewis4314 5 жыл бұрын
Unsubbed, then resubbed Angry JSG is best JSG 😂
@TSPH1992
@TSPH1992 4 жыл бұрын
It was a good rant
@nickcosentino5368
@nickcosentino5368 3 жыл бұрын
Stay strong, your doing the right thing. I'm 60 years old, and have never read a comic. But I look for truth. Your doing your part to spread truth. My hats off to you.
@holygoat
@holygoat 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just trying to wrap my head around the thought process that would lead one to attack JSG and thinking it would lead to a positive outcome for them.
@katnerd6712
@katnerd6712 5 жыл бұрын
They're mad at you because you said the art was great in a book that was done by a guy who is, objectively, one of the best comic book artists of the last twenty-five years!?! Regardless of what anybody thinks of Ethan his art and storytelling is not now, nor has it ever been, in question. Anybody saying otherwise is pushing an agenda. That's like calling a black kid from the South side of Chicago a white supremacist.
@juniorjunior5884
@juniorjunior5884 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, calling a black guy a white supremacist? We call that pulling a Waid.
@hwk_9
@hwk_9 5 жыл бұрын
Man.... You're a wise dude, loved the quote from the Bible at the beginning...
@FizzFop1
@FizzFop1 5 жыл бұрын
It's tough standing on your own when a bunch of people start taking sides. Bravo!
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