Space Jam 2 Is The Definition of Corporate

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[@dawg9585]

Space Jam 3 is just going to be bugs bunny sitting in a blank room and listing off every single property that warner brothers owns

[@michaelbolcato192]

The director of Scary Movie 5 wants Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson as the main role in Space Jam 3.

[@CoraCreates]

@@michaelbolcato192 oh no…. Ready Player One wrestling addition…. And it might be a musical because the Rock can fucking sing.

[@MultiNacho8]

@@almightydreadhead6909 He might be referring to how Lola was nerfed.

[@larniieplayz6285]

@@DanielsAlt503 what?

[@chronomage4939]

you forgot about him literally transforming into big chungus for the entirety of it too

[@Horneroid]

Why didn’t they hire the Director of the Lego Movie? If WB wanted a movie that cash grabs on the fans nostalgia, they could have at least hired a director who knew how to cater to the fans.

[@spoonybard13]

I haven't actually checked out what Phil Lord and Chris Miller have been up to, but maybe they were busy with another project? Of course, that's assuming that Warner Bros actually had the idea to get them onboard at all.

[@yhavinmiles]

@@spoonybard13 they made the lego movie and worked on spider verse everything they touch is a masterwork

[@josephnewsome2935]

@@spoonybard13 the crappy America the motion picture

[@mr.goblin6039]

@@josephnewsome2935 Even that dumb as heck film is better than Space Jam 2. At least that one was self aware of how dumb it was.

[@classicinternettroll4188]

the lego movie was good wdym

[@JDubs1464]

Space Jam 1: “Yeah, this is a marketing film but we’ll make it funny and enjoyable while referencing things like MJ’s horrible baseball career” Space Jam 2: Look, it’s all our Warner Bros properties, with a plot nobody cares about

[@okok-sk2zq]

space jam 1 was also bad

[@1nc0rr1g1bl3]

@@okok-sk2zq no. It has flaws tho

[@Mike-kl5yc]

@@okok-sk2zq it wasn’t. The thing is it keep the plot simple and it was entertaining with charm to it. This second movies blows trash to me because it doesn’t I have those elements like OP said.

[@okok-sk2zq]

@@Mike-kl5yc nah the movie was shit bro trust me, i love the movie i really do, but its bad

[@okok-sk2zq]

@@1nc0rr1g1bl3 the movie was a cashgrab and its noticeable, don't get me wrong I love the movie but its not good

[@Jackvonblood]

I can't exactly say I'm surprised, this is just what Disney has been doing for the past 5-10 years now, remaking/rebooting/restarting/re-whatevering their previously beloved franchises into ugly, pointless garbage. Hopefully they run out things soon so they can start the whole cycle over again, whoopee, I'm so delighted.

[@100lovenana]

True, Warner Bros is just copying Disney AGAIN. Let's remember how they tried to do the same in the 90s

[@DSX1]

Funny thing is, people say this and still watch the movies anyway.

[@100lovenana]

@@DSX1 Sadly, yeah

[@bigsmoke9421]

if this little space jam 2 shit turns into a nightmare like the avengers.

[@darreideamos2309]

Well I dont. I hate what Disney does so I boycot them until they start making sonething decent

[@AshaTheGameGenie]

My favourite part of the movie is when they reference The Matrix *SEVEN* different times. They really want people to be aware there's a new movie coming.

[@sega-megadeth1276]

The fourth Matrix movie was originally supposed to be released BEFORE Space Jam 2, before COVID happened.

[@LilComedown]

Goshh I noticed two references but there's that many?! Well still not watching it again lmao

[@KingHoborg]

Wait what? There's a new Matrix coming out? I don't know if I should be getting hyped up for it or dreading it...

[@alexarviso6836]

@@sega-megadeth1276 it doesn't change that they are still trying to promote it

[@Luka-zt4ju]

@James Pietsch wrong opinion but ok

[@narxmagee727]

I love Space Jam, not because it was a well put together, Oscar worthy movie since it's the furthest thing from that but because it had charm, a lot fun moments, knew what it was and didn't go past that, was 90's as hell and didn't try to waste your time. Things this movie absolutely lack.

[@misterdewott8766]

Exactly. The original has some charm, this shit show is just annoying.

[@jackjax7921]

Or you just hate LeBron Lmao.

[@yourfatboy5359]

@@jackjax7921 i mean even if you brought mj instead of lj i would still hate this film

[@ddjsoyenby]

for what it is it was fun tbh.

[@explosionmage]

Some movies are just stupid fun some movies don’t have to have to be Oscar worthy movies are for entertainment anyway.

[@TeamStudNation1280]

Just a reminder that Pepe Le Pew wasn't in the movie because of cancel culture calling him a rapist yet the dudes from A Clockwork Orange, who did much worse acts than what the skunk did, made the cut as background characters during the last part of the movie 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

And not only that, the female cat Penelope got cancelled as well and both will no longer exist. Fifi from Tiny Toons is probably next.

[@walkerphillips2818]

Also expect Speedy Gonzales to go to cartoon purgatory.

[@walkerphillips2818]

I also forgot to say that A Clockwork Orange inspired copycat rape crimes across the country.

[@DarkButz]

@@walkerphillips2818 Yeah, he's going to end up the same way Apu did. Even though the cultures they're supposed to parody absolutely love those characters.

[@masterchief8637]

@@walkerphillips2818 actually, that was attempted one but it failed. Speedy is here to stay

[@Totentanz2440]

Now that I think about it if Space Jam was reconstructed to be around the whole movie being just the Tune Squad preparing heavily for the game before Bugs just sweeps the whole opponent team would make for a pretty good punchline, and combined with a shorter run time that could totally work

[@walkerphillips2818]

That’d be hilarious.

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

I found a bunch of action figures of LeBron James with their head pulled off in the store I work at today. I'm guessing some of our customers REALLY didn't like this movie.

[@yourfatboy5359]

Bruh

[@deltaflamestorm7400]

or they just wanted a new basketball

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

That or they don't like Lebron James. Also plausible.

[@Jenazad.]

Or they really love his face.

[@Te0strath]

Yikes

[@AssfaceOmega]

I never really cared about Space Jam, but this just makes the original movie look like it could cure cancer and end climate change.

[@kyotheman69]

dude this shit makes first film a masterpiece, fuck WB and fuck this movie

[@jacob-ryuhosunahara7725]

@@kyotheman69 the first film sucks as well and has the same flaws as the new one

[@ne3856]

Watch out for those wrist rockets!

[@jacob-ryuhosunahara7725]

@@DJR___ that doesn’t make the original space jam a really good movie

[@nickwasnothere4924]

The original movie was great imo but I respect ur opinion

[@fbmb1337]

So this was just Warner's take on Ready Player One or Ralph Breaks the Internet, yet another movie to the list of "Look at all the intelectual properties we own" flex movies.

[@siddharthkrishna8463]

Lego batman was sort of one of these but it worked so much better

[@cadendicky1855]

........Ready Player One was also made by Warner Bros.

[@fatcat1414]

Space Jam isn't really something you can write a sequel to without changing the premise. Otherwise you just end up with a near-copy. Even just changing the sport would've opened the writers up to different aesthetics and visual gags. A Space Jam Olympics, maybe? At the very least that would've been a marketable gimmick.

[@chadschmaltz9790]

The first thing that came to mind was Wile E Coyote trying to launch off a long ramp using rocket skiis.

[@Sorel2020]

I'll be honest, Space Jam is particularly a success because of Michael Jordan. He was, and to an extant still is, a pretty well liked celebrity. I don't think Lebron is as universally liked, not that he's awful, just not on the same level. While it was also very corporate, they managed to, largely, restrain themselfs. The amound of cutaways and random cameos here was ridiculous. This FELT much more corporate while the other felt more genuine.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Lebron tried doxxing a police officer after he saved a woman from being stabbed. Trust me, he's not nearly as great as people think.

[@PKMN37]

@@thefanwithoutaface8105 From what I've heard, he's also a shill for China.

[@johnhallman3611]

"I'm Lebron James and I support racial justice! Buy my Nike sneakers made in Chinese sweatshops!"

[@xx1j]

Ofc LeBron isn't on the same level, he's on a different pedestal than Michael Jordan. He can't fill the Goat James' shoes 😅

[@Attmay]

LeBron James didn't quit basketball for baseball, so there's that.

[@mqfii8992]

The moment I saw the sheer visual pollution on the trailer, I was like: "Oh. So this movie Is just gonna be Warner Bros. flexing on all the properties they have while maybe having some Looney Tunes In the middle?" Guess I was right.

[@Lugmillord]

I love that term. "Visual pollution" describes it perfectly.

[@MChuck-]

When I saw the clip of Porky rapping I was like "Oh, this movie is going to suck."

[@Yougotcaged102]

Guess they didn't learn from Ralph Breaks the Internet

[@luiginastro8831]

Like Ready Player One

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

@super dude man , Space Jam the remake Sequel would have been if it was just called the Isekai Jam because it wasn’t at all like the original first film, and the second film goes from mediocre to complete dog shit depending on what scene was happening.

[@Frozen_Death_Knight]

One of the biggest sins of this movie is its run time. As flawed as the original Space Jam is, its running time was reasonably short and the story was primarily centered around the main premise of Looney Tunes playing basketball with Michael Jordan. Space Jam 2 has no business clocking in just before the 2 hour mark. The writers really over complicated the premise while trying to justify this Warner Bros. Universe which was a complete waste of time. Heck, the movie barely even had any basketball. Oh no. Don't tell me. Space Jam 2 was just another attempt at creating a cinematic universe, wasn't it? That would explain too much about why the movie is structured the way it is. I don't know how they could make the movie more corporate than the original, but they somehow did it.

[@bigsmoke9421]

it was some crazy shit, is it avengers????

[@Omnywrench]

At the very least, this movie gave me a newfound appreciation for the original Space Jam. It's a weird movie to be sure, but it fully embraces its weirdness without trying to be ironic or painfully self-aware; it just let's the Looney Tunes be the Looney Tunes. It doesn't try to justify or apologize for anything it offers. Space Jam basically comes out saying "We're gonna do all this weird shit and have a good time, and maybe you will too! Or maybe not; we don't care! It's time to slam now!" Meanwhile, Space Jam 2: The Search for More Money is like "Hey remember all that stuff you liked? Well here's even more stuff! That means you'll like it even more, right? Right? Please say you do! I'm not lame, honest! Would someone lame have all this cool stuff? Please love me!"

[@DCT-tt8ib]

This is our punishment for not watching “Looney Tunes: Back in Action”.

[@orangeslash1667]

Your right!!!!

[@papaG6423]

That movie actually kinda slapped

[@jazzratoon]

@@papaG6423 With the animated scenes that is, can't forget that the best scene of Bugs dressed as Marilyn Monroe. Dang, does Bugs knows how make it work.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@jazzratoon The Problem with Back in Action is Warner Bros didn't give the director any creative freedom at all.

[@jazzratoon]

@@orangeslash1667 I won't be surprised if Space Jam 2 was in a similar boat.

[@HarmonySword]

The biggest problem is this movie had all these extra characters and virtually zero interactions with each other. They were just there as cardboard cutouts

[@neoniguana655]

I mean, some of them were interacting. I can’t take my mind off of pennywise desperately trying to get attention from a white walker in the background. It took him 30 seconds of tapping on his shoulder, idk why I laughed at that XD

[@sporetv57]

King Kong and Iron Giant made a fist bump. That was pretty cool and King Kong getting angry was so funny.

[@larniieplayz6285]

I thought they did

[@HarmonySword]

@@rickythereaper1943 And you have the spelling and mindset of a four year old. How hard is it to realize that not everyone is going to like something just because you do. Opinion 101

[@HarmonySword]

@@rickythereaper1943 Says the white knight who can't accept other people's preferences. You are really projecting here trying to defend this trash.

[@discarmon7422]

This guys nails it at the end. "They knew what it was and just embraced it to have fun with it." That's why even though the first Space Jam was also a shameless cash grab it was still a fun movie because they made a point to have fun with the movie.

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

I don't get why people are like "Yeah, the original wasn't good, but it was fun." It kinda sounds pretentious, like people are thinking "It couldn't have been good, it was Bugs Bunny and Michael Jordan playing basketball. That concept is just too dumb to make a good movie. Maybe the only reason why I liked it was because I was a dumb kid who liked dumb things, and the movie was dumb but funny." Just pointing out that Ebert, one of the most respected film critics ever, said it was a good movie, rated it 3.5/4, and also put it on his list of his 10 favorite sports movies. Saying that you think it isn't a good movie is saying that you think you have better taste and judgement than Roger Ebert.

[@theunlawfulsponge5908]

It blows my mind how the 2D animation from 1996 looks leagues better than the modern 2D animation

[@robinmaner3455]

Every movie wants to be that Endgame level crossover at this point. And sometimes it’s done well, but sometimes it’s done laughably bad

[@professornova1236]

@@fei8151 The movie itself wasn't really a cashgrab. It's just the amount of advertising it got just to push it to the top

[@David-ic7gm]

@@fei8151 endgame was legendary

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

MCU is successful because of its storytelling wise and great characters, not just the dumb humor.

[@1nc0rr1g1bl3]

@@fei8151 Endgame wasn't exactly a cashgrab. People loved Infinity War so why wouldn't they want to see what happens next?

[@venti3849]

@@fei8151 endgame wasnt a cash grab, only a shit movie

[@purplehaze2358]

The fact that it was directed by the same person who did _Scary Movie 5_ makes way too much sense.

[@100lovenana]

This is why we must pay attention to the names in the credits and posters. Most people judge the images first and later (or never) look at the people who worked on the film.

[@HunterXWorld95]

Dr. Bright is forbidden from watching the KZbin channel commonly known as "Just Stop" for the foreseeable future.

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

Didn't he do Barbershop 3 which was positively received? Never seen it tho

[@quintonposs3286]

He also did Undercover Brother as well.

[@SatanenPerkele]

@Freesmart Detective Pikachu, another soulless cgi cash grab.

[@craigime]

"Then Space Jam 2 came out, and we all sort of lost hope." - Randy Marsh

[@VileGlory]

Movies today rely too heavily on pop culture references. Most don't even have original soundtracks anymore.

[@mikerueffer579]

I remember Chuck Jones said he hated the original movie when asked why he simply replied they spent an hour trying to solve a problem bugs bunny could have solved in 7 minutes.

[@100lovenana]

Wow, that's true! He nailed it right there (which isn't surprising, it's Chuck Jones). Do you have a link to that interview??

[@wilmagregg3131]

that is kind of a dumb reason to hate a movie though because bugs as a toon could literally do anything chuck wanted and solve any problem in any amount of time because its ment to be unrealistic and of course if they did do that the movie would suck as theyd just have to create a new plot every 10 minutes

[@azinyefantasy4445]

@@wilmagregg3131 you don't take it literally. He Was talking about how they dumbed down bugs to make him one of the boys when he didn't need any of them to win. Lola was the real mvp until bugs made the super juice. You can be faithful without compromise and still come out a winner.

[@angela.luntian]

@@wilmagregg3131 it means the script wasnt as creative as he wanted

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@angela.luntian but in what way could they be more creative without breaking the plot? again it seems like the author just had a favourite loony toon who he wanted to carry the whole movie but it was a loony toon movie not a bugs bunny movie. which i would watch as immiedatly bugs is my favourite cartoon icon way better then boring and tyrannical micky mouse for instance.

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

Can we talk about how they got rid of Pepe Le Pew for his character, but added the droogies from Clockwork friggin Orange?!

[@alfiejob6546]

Are yes, A Clockwork Orange, the greatest family film ever made. Seriously, if they replaced a character which was borderline r@pey with characters that are literal r@pists, then that just goes to show how incompetent and hypocritical studio executives are.

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

@@alfiejob6546 Plus Pepe was originally had a character arc about how his behavior isn't okay. Something that didn't even an issue in the first movie. Yes he's always been a lech but not during Space Jam.

[@ThiccSumoWarDog]

The funny thing is that, just like Lola as he talks about in the video, they ALREADY had a more tame version of Pepe appear in the Looney Tuned Show who was still fairly loyal to his character that they could have used, but what do I know?

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

@@ThiccSumoWarDog Exactly. And yet they removed him because of grape culture even though he was going to learn about consent. Yet the r//pist gets a cameo because of muh nostalgia

[@alfiejob6546]

@@ThiccSumoWarDog Wait! They already had a tamer version of Pepe they could've used?... What the hell! I mean, I get the reason as to why he wasn't put in the film, but when you remove him and act like he doesn't exist, you aren't solving the the problem you are creating an even bigger one by ignoring the issue. ( A good example is the 2019 Dumbo remake, when Disney just removed the crows.)

[@secretformulathief910]

So hear me out, the 2D animation got me thinking of something I've been wanting to get out there, what if Disney (because we all know it's going downhill) went back to they're roots, id love to see a modern 2D animation especially since technology has advanced so much I bet it would look fantastic.

[@adamriddle7425]

I see his point about Lola's character. Her trying to to complete the Amazon trials with her airhead but caring personality of the looney tunes shoe would have actually been funny to watch

[@kade6952]

I really wish the Looney Tunes would get a movie by themselves in today's era though, I want a Back in Action 2 so bad

[@orangeslash1667]

At least we have Roger Rabbit.

[@spideyguy3315]

Same for Sonic or the Transformers.

[@franklinbonnefoy2295]

There's already a back in action 2. It.... It just wasn't that good

[@spideyguy3315]

@Axsoul CAMPBELL Yeah Ik, just saying that the franchise should focus on the sonic universe than being on earth.

[@spideyguy3315]

@Axsoul CAMPBELL Nah u good 👍

[@GarfieldthaGreat672]

The movie would've been better if he'd repeated 'Want a Sprite Cranberry?' for two hours.

[@GarfieldthaGreat672]

@@romansaguilar7810 Is that a copypasta?

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

@@GarfieldthaGreat672 But I like Sprite Cranberry. Not joking, it's actually pretty decent imo.

[@bluestar8779]

@@romansaguilar7810 then explain the Rick and Morty reference lmao

[@Darthwgamer]

@@GarfieldthaGreat672 Sounds like it

[@elladoros]

@@romansaguilar7810 Damn you really need a sprite cranberry

[@arandomcamper5403]

6:50 I'm more shocked that out of all the people in the Looney Toons universe, Granny is the one who has a Twitter

[@chesterstevens8870]

They should have gotten Charles Barkley to star in this movie. Him and Looney Tunes have a bit in common; they're both icons of their respective fields that have since gone past their prime. And Barkley even has his own signature move, the legendary Chaos Dunk.

[@RSN_SGT_RENEWAL]

Should Pound call him up for a Space Jam 1.5 thing

[@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736]

😂😂😂😂 lmfaoooo Charles Barkley??? Yeah okay

[@iguanaboi3921]

When me and my dad watched Godzilla vs Kong in the theater, we had to watch the trailer for this movie, after it was over he leaned over and told me it looked like shit

[@bottomtext4911]

I like your dad

[@oneofnone7947]

He is smart

[@virusINJUSTICE]

Awesome dad

[@foundry6715]

Yeah I saw godzilla and saw the trailer for this too

[@iguanaboi3921]

@Picante Tamal yeah, it was good

[@Raph___A]

The Rick and Morty reference was the nail on the coffin. It didn't feel like an actual Rick and Morty cameo.

[@chidaluokoro9104]

How?

[@hardondong3550]

@@chidaluokoro9104 Rick and Morty don't act self aware like they usually do.

[@chidaluokoro9104]

@@hardondong3550 they don't always act self aware

[@bestduelistever2374]

Haven’t seen it yet. Rick and Morty are in it??

[@chidaluokoro9104]

@@bestduelistever2374 yes but not for long

[@erindunn6689]

I haven’t felt this sorry for Porky since his suicide in Tails Gets Trolled.

[@jacobb17]

1:01 Everyone talks about Lola Bunny being hot in the original, but they didn't have to make that alien so THICC

[@Deoxys_Used_Mimic]

There’s a real difference in mindset between: 1) Making a movie because someone had an idea. 2) Making a movie because someone wanted to make money.

[@kadiriolanipekun6486]

That applies to the first one to. Because that was a cash grab

[@Deoxys_Used_Mimic]

@@kadiriolanipekun6486 Priorities, but yes.

[@1nc0rr1g1bl3]

@@kadiriolanipekun6486 They somehow masked that and made it into it's own film.

[@basedbattledroid3507]

@@kadiriolanipekun6486 it was still a big experimental cash grab though, it took risks, whereas space jam 2 is just selling space jam nostalgia.

[@xcellentcreations3312]

So mindset 1 is the MCU, Edge of tommorow, Christopher Nolan's films, Zack snyder's films, and virtually all of Disney's animated films. And mindset 2 is the DCEU, DragonBall evolution, the last Airbender, butch Hartman's modern works, Adam Sandler films, and half of live action Disney movies.

[@CelticAkumathefirst]

The only thing savable from this movie: Coyote in Mad Max. The rest was a soul less cashgrab that you expect Disney to do.

[@LuckoDaStars]

Yeah that was actually pretty funny and that's the only part I find remotely enjoyable was the part where bugs is recruiting his old friends back in other universes. Daffy Duck trying to be a hero by deliberately causing the problem the first place is very much in character. Although it would have been even funnier if he tried going out again as Duck Dodgers but I guess the Looney Tunes back in Action already did that The Matrix stuff was already going to be pretty bad. As well as the Foghorn Leghorn bit. It definitely could have been a lot better in the movie as a whole. I watched it with a friend for free. I'm not supporting LeBron James and him being a sell-out that's for certain

[@moeextra2091]

This isn’t Disney but ok...?

[@CelticAkumathefirst]

@@moeextra2091 yeah, I know that is not Disney. I'm saying that this level of cashgrab is usually expected from them.

[@c0rn651]

i like how they kept making fun of lebron

[@moeextra2091]

@@CelticAkumathefirst ohhhh gotcha

[@NathanTarantlawriter]

Rarely has a movie screamed so loud that it was empty and a cash grab from the trailer to the first posters they put out.

[@dragonskunkstudio7582]

I wanted to make a parody of Space Jam, I wanted to make a woman's all star game where all the popular Rule 34 cartoon characters play against each other. I would put Renamon, Pete's wife, Krystal, Toriel, Twana, Loona, Lola, Rouge, finished all but a couple of the characters, sculpted ready to be rigged. Wanted to make it fun and not a 2 hour infomercial.

[@hassathunter2464]

Much more hyped to see that than Space Jam 2.

[@samuelbutton7185]

My dad took a look at the screen for the movie on HBO, asked my brother if he really wanted to watch this, and mentally prepared himself for the next two hours

[@michaelbolcato192]

Did you brother enjoy the movie?

[@samuelbutton7185]

@@michaelbolcato192 Unfortunately

[@eatatjoes6751]

My dad and I talked about this movie (he's a big Looney Tunes fan) and he said that "they couldn't pay him to watch this crap."

[@edman813]

Space Jam + Ralph breaks the Internet = This movie.

[@taiahunter2600]

Only Ralph breaks the internet was better

[@Wizard-gj8go]

@@taiahunter2600 eh Ralph breaks the internet was kind of worse

[@JonathanGaeta]

This Space Jam is basically Warner’s response to Disney’s Ralph Breaks The Internet

[@JonathanGaeta]

@Ink my brain hurts

[@donnovandalusong266]

@@Wizard-gj8go I just hate what they did to Ralph and Vanelope and Theres no fucking Video Game Cameos we grow up during the age of computer.Its fucking underwhelming.

[@teddydrums8149]

the re use of 30 year old assets is what blows my mind. what laziness

[@joeybu8152]

Reject Space Jam 2, Embrace Back in Action 2!

[@JackedThor-so]

It always frustrates me when movies like this or Ready Player Overly-Done have an impressive scope and a lot of talent powering the visuals while still ultimately feeling like utterly hollow nostalgia cannibalization.

[@susie1175]

I thought that Ready Player One was good but to each their own

[@Flome810]

@@susie1175 I hope you’re joking about liking Ready Player One.

[@sentrycominup7501]

@@Flome810 dude literally just stated their opinion

[@donnovandalusong266]

God,I hope they don’t touch Ready Player One again.One movie is enough for me.

[@pokemoss9223]

@Vixen Lunastra I just read it and I enjoyed it. I'm scared about how badly they'll mess up the story if they make a movie though.

[@Dragonk116]

This new space jam should have just been called "References: the movie"

[@alfiejob6546]

That probably sums up a lot of movies nowadays, not just Space Jam 2.

[@bighand1530]

@@alfiejob6546 I like nostalgia. But it can get annoying when it's in overload.

[@ashkitt7719]

I'm surprised Seltzerberg didn't direct this.

[@alfiejob6546]

@@bighand1530 Agreed, it also doesn't help that a lot of is just put in there for the sake of having there.

[@bossmaster3437]

HBO Max: The Movie

[@strangescottvoiceacting5351]

I think the part of Porky Pig rapping is supposed to be another reference to the original, or at least the soundtrack. The last track on the album is called "Buggin' " and its a Bugs Bunny 90s hip hop track. Fun fact, the lyrics to that song are rumored to be ghostwritten by Jay-Z. And while it does have that kid pandering sound of the time, its not totally terrible. I grew up with the movie, so I have a soft spot for it, and I have mad respect for Billy West as a VA. But they didn't put the track in the film. Honestly, I'm glad they didn't because if they had animated it, it probably would've looked just as bad as what that Porky Pig scene looks like.

[@akiraeatsguitarpicks491]

I’m 100% sure the script was written in like, 2018. Theres no way they would’ve added fat bugs and rick otherwise

[@hexnight]

warner bros already has a movie making several references to properties. it's called ready player one

[@wrrrryyyy12]

i thought it was the lego movie

[@wrrrryyyy12]

@schiggy2319 was talking about films but you are still correct

[@Attmay]

I look at that movie more like Spielberg saying "Oh my God, what have I done?" than Warner Bros. flexing its acquisition muscles. If this has a Disney parallel, it's *Ralph Breaks the Internet.*

[@hexnight]

@@wrrrryyyy12 well, lego does have sets of some of the properties mentioned though, ready player one (both the movie & the book) was mainly just 80s references

[@hexnight]

@@Attmay fun fact: they had the original author write the movie along with someone else and still got about 95% of the adaptation wrong O_O

[@denises9120]

The only good live action and animated hybrid is Who Framed Roger Rabbit. No one can hold a candle to that film.

[@alexnacud25]

And don't forget Back on Action

[@alexnacud25]

@James Pietsch Oh, come on, it's mot just 'milennials' (who, by the way, are at least 26 today), just studios discovering new ways to be cheap

[@thepylonperspective]

Both Space Jam’s were fun… Not good, not bad, they were a nice experience…

[@yunghov23]

Yeah

[@WildWyomingProductions]

Producer: "So, how many advertisements do you want to have in your movie?" Space Jam: *"Yes."*

[@jewelsdragonfly]

In an alternate universe, we could have had Skate Jam with Tony Hawk. Edit: Jokes aside, its ironic that Chuck Jones criticism about the orignal is in the sequel that Bugs and the gang being Looney would beat these characters, but couldn't at first because Le Bron held them back from their full potential. But it was poorly executed.

[@aidangordon2713]

Or _Wacky Races_ with Jeff Gordon. (Changed from _Race Jam_ because... well, you can guess.)

[@LocketInThinePocket]

Skate Jam with Tony Hawk makes me think of Tony Hawk Underground 2, man those were good times hahah!

[@escaladism]

Or Space Bogey with Tiger Woods

[@larniieplayz6285]

@@aidangordon2713 ?

[@AMVpurgatory]

I've been looking for a way to define these kinds of soulless movies that every studio keeps churning out and "Pop Culture Universe" hits the nail on the head. I'm so sick of extended universes. It's actually a selling point for me these days to hear that a story is entirely self-contained.

[@100lovenana]

It seems we're going through a similar phase as the late 90s/early 2000s, when every film was obligated to be filled with pop culture references.

[@AMVpurgatory]

@@100lovenana That phase never really ended. It just got worse.

[@aesiro1336]

What about the concept of All-Fiction?

[@coolnut99]

In my amateur writing days, one of the first things I learned: When everything is possible, nothing is interesting.

[@stcx2610]

I showed my uncle the trailer for this movie and all he could say was “nah.”

[@konnorfoxworth9632]

If you actually look closely at Al G Rythms presentation, btw, you actually see the poster for the first Space Jam pop up! IT MAKES NO FRIGGIN SENSE! You have to be extremely desperate with your sequel/reboot/adaptation when you destroy the IP’s universe by dropping in the poster of the original movie in the very sequel of that same movie. Just like when we saw the original arcade ports in the Rampage and Double Dragon movies. The WB Serververse may as well just implode!

[@brnk2]

Space jam 1 was already incredibly corporate, must be hard to outdo THAT

[@senorapples1115]

atleast that had some heart into

[@kadiriolanipekun6486]

@@senorapples1115 how can you say that with a straight face? People have said countless times that the director didn’t know what he was doing when directing the first one

[@asscheeks3212]

When modern liberal corporations are SOO corporate, they make the Conservative pre war era corporations look communists in comparison. Hell I think I can convert a C.E.O of the 90s/80s era into a red just showing him this mess of a film.

[@senorapples1115]

@@kadiriolanipekun6486 i didn't know that but still space jam 1 has more into it. space jam 2 is so coperate that 1 is a indie film

[@redactedoktor]

@@asscheeks3212 Holy shit! That was the best and most creative goddamn analogy I have ever heard! This sounds like something that belongs in r/rareinsults! Congrats!

[@tatertot64]

Potentially learning that both Rick and Morty and Big Chungus appear in Space Jam 2 within the 10 minute span of this video should be a Surgeon General's warning at the beginning of this video.

[@Matislavio]

"So how much visuals do you want in the new Space Jam movie?" "Yes" "And how much Looney Tunes?" "No"

[@dave___]

space jam 2 sounds like warner bros flexing on disney about how many properties they own, feels like a thing you'd present at the meeting with all ceos of the industry

[@kuraichyan]

Merging live action and animation was done before the original Space Jam and done best six years previously with Who Framed Roger Rabbit. And that movie even aged well. Of course, its production was so expensive people were working on it practically for free at the end as a passion project.

[@100lovenana]

And what makes that film better than Space Jam 2 is that had heart and good writing. You could tell that everyone (or at least most of the people) who worked on Roger Rabbit were actually passionate about animation and what it represents.

[@kuraichyan]

@@100lovenana They really were so passionate. I highly recommend the extras from the anniversary bluray, they go into so many details on the making of, the difficulties they went through, and just how hard they all worked. I also find it funny that it's probably the only adaptation of a novel where the original author decided to make his own book an AU because he liked the movie better.

[@googamp32]

WB: "Complain all you want, you still gave us your money."

[@lostcrusader8053]

Yarr harr fiddle dee dee!

[@KAMFP]

I've stopped watching most if not all hollywood haha

[@soarinskies1105]

Not me

[@Sonic171K]

Just get HBO Max people. You get to see this movie and more. Worth the money that way. I might be tempted to buy this disappointing and a little fun movie. If I ever see it in one of those $5 bins at a store. lol

[@PKMN37]

@@Sonic171K HBO Max? After they took Elmer's shotgun? No thanks.

[@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051]

So they decide to remove Pepe Le Pew, and yet they're willing to insert cameos of characters from some of the most controversial films ever made...

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

What a bunch of hypocrites.

[@CrazyMautty]

I liked this look into the sequel as it basically encompasses all the fears I had of what it would be. Except the Lola Bunny part. I absolutely hated the new version of her character in the show as the 'psychotic, airhead blonde who doesn't shut up' and much prefer the original space jam version of her being the confident, sexy, but ultimately badass and being the real star of the group. Fleshed out, that version of her character could have been so much better than what we got in the cartoon show.

[@Budshartley]

Chuck Jones isn't just rolling in his grave, no, He's breaking the sound barrier 10x over

[@viruschris3160]

Makes me wonder what he would've said about *A New Legacy* after ripping apart the first one. I'd think he'll say the first Space Jam was still awful and hates it regardless, but it had LEAST had charm and about the Looney Tunes for the most part. I don't know the guy, so the world will never know.

[@Attmay]

@@viruschris3160 At least the original *Space Jam* looked like it was made by people who had actually seen an OG Looney Tunes cartoon.

[@michaelbolcato192]

@@Attmay Why did they get the director of Scary Movie 5?

[@conormullins4900]

That's why I went deaf after hearing someone yell "WHY, JUST WHY", thanks for clearing that up.

[@Sato_Goth]

Chuck Jones is rolling so fast in his grave that his cadaver could be used to power the entirety of the United States for 50 years.

[@blackwaterlotus5466]

This was basically HBO Max: The Movie

[@tobiodeyemi5274]

Exactly. I would say that wreck it ralph 2 would be disney+ the movie but there are two things that defunct this idea. 1: the movie was released months before disney+ was even announced. 2. There was basically references to everything in that movie. Also I enjoyed that better than space jam 2.

[@blackwaterlotus5466]

@@tobiodeyemi5274 it didn't feel soulless when Wreck it Ralph did it. You couldn't pay attention to the plot for an entire hour in Space Jam without seeing corporate synergy barfed everywhere

[@tobiodeyemi5274]

@@blackwaterlotus5466 Sorry I should have worded it better. What I meant to say was that ralph 2 does it in a way where it isn't in your face like space jam.

[@kevinmccallister1992]

If they ever make a Space Jam 3 they should make The Animaniacs the Main Characters.

[@basedbattledroid3507]

Why do they have a Matrix world... *INSIDE A MATRIX WORLD?!!??*

[@mattc2306]

To me, this feels less like a sequel to Space Jam instead feeling like a cross between Ready Player One and last year's Scoob! (Coincidentally, also featured classic Warner Brothers cartoons)

[@fluidwolf]

They seem to want everything to reference all their stuff at all times now for some weird reason. Nothing can just be it's own thing.

[@VileGlory]

Hollywood is still following the Scary Movie formula.

[@lighthawk3720]

Fuck no. I'd rather watch Space Jam 2 any day of the week than watch Scoob again for even a minute.

[@dannypalin9583]

Fun fact: seeing the SCOOB poster during the WB tour was the only time I saw it on the big screen.

[@mattc2306]

@@VileGlory Interesting that you mention that, because this almost reminds me of the Seltzerman/Friedburg spoof movies of the 2000's, more specifically, Epic Movie, Disaster Movie, and Meet The Spartans.

[@mechajay3358]

I enjoy Space Jam for what it was as a kid with it's flaws, that movie knew what it was and it's plot and characters was simple and consist. I can't say the same for Space Jam New Legacy. That movie is bloated with one pop culture references after another, with a plot that drags on way too long and a story that's convoluted. And that's not getting into the idiotic controversy it had with Lola Bunny and Pepe Le Pew. Also Michael Jordan > LeBron James.

[@northcali6685]

I like your profile pic. I love Daft Punk, so I always enjoy seeing nice art of them.

[@dannypalin9583]

Funniest part was that they revealed that Penelope was replacing Pepe as a member of the Tune Squad and there's promotional art of her wearing the uniform. She's nowhere to be seen in the actual movie. The only female players are Lola and Granny.

[@1nc0rr1g1bl3]

The Pepe Le Pew one is stupid.

[@mechajay3358]

@@northcali6685 Thanks, me too

[@Begeru]

Dude the original is exactly like that too. What’s the difference really?

[@SpaceLobster21]

All this modern-day corporate stuff that happens in the entertainment industry is just really disappointing. It's really sad to see how uncaring these once-great movie companies are becoming, or how Nintendo is making overpriced games with a lack of content. Companies of the past have realized just how much they can get away with thanks to their brands alone, and are abusing that to make money without really trying. It just hurt to see modern entertainment going downhill like this.

[@spykidtalksaboutanything4395]

It’s literally just “space jam: into the warnerverse”

[@Jenazad.]

Space Jam 2 is just another Emoji movie, but instead of a disguised advert for Mobile Apps, it's for Warner Bros owned IP/Shows while using the Nostalgia and Sports Fan as the bait and Filled to the brim with Pop-culture reference instead of a proper good story.

[@thejumpboy1185]

That's crossing the line. Emoji movie was bad in EVERYTHING, at least this one had some good moments

[@joecool2987]

As ridiculous as space jam was we have to admit it was the shit when we were kids

[@sheldynh.8320]

I watched it so much as a kid

[@kimberlybogert7031]

Yeah this and sonic ova was my most fav back in the day😅

[@nightmarefanatic1819]

I loved that movie, I watched it every day for a week when I was home with a bad case of Strep Throat.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

I didn't even know the movie existed until a few years ago. Looney Tunes: Back in Action and Who Framed Roger Rabbit? THOSE are classics.

[@thundahcrash6827]

what i never understood was why adapt this movie to appeal to modern day children and the not kids from the 90s (you know the ones that watched the 1996 version) like why not appeal to ones that watched/ loved the original and would've loved to see a sequel to a childhood classic, just saying, because I've never seen ANY modern day kid watch or even talk about Looney Tunes.

[@JurassicBattleDroid]

9:48 *porky pig has an epileptic seizure 2021 colorized*

[@andrewb6194]

To me, the first warning signs where when they were using Controversy as Marketing. While I personally don’t care about cutting a character or changing a design, especially of characters that I honestly don’t care about. But it’s very telling when it becomes a main focus and a massive deal over everything else. This happens a lot, and I’m surprised nobody is picking up on it.

[@alfiejob6546]

What are the other times this sort of thing has happened?

[@andrewb6194]

@@alfiejob6546 Most cases come from Disney, but here are a few. 1. Making curtain, already established characters gay, black, etc.. It’s unfortunate too, because all of those actors are probably doing their best, but they were only hired to gain controversy. And it usually hurts the actors in the longrun. and 2. Curtain remakes or series removing things because their “controversial” or “not with the times”. (Examples include Removing curtain Spongebob episodes, including the “panty raid” one, and Family Guy removing gay jokes… Didn’t really work out in the end, but you get the idea)

[@alfiejob6546]

@@andrewb6194 Ah, I see, it doesn't surprise me that Disney is a culprit in this sort of thing. I can understand the reasoning for removing controversial material, but it just creates an even bigger problem, especially if it's easily solvable. Take for instance, the removal of the crows in the Dumbo remake; yes, the crows in the original film are racist stereotypes, but by removing them, you are essentially just saying: "Oh, that never happened" and just digging yourself a deeper hole. And what's worse is that the whole issue can be easily solved by not writing them as African American stereotypes and hiring Black voice actors.

[@andrewb6194]

@@alfiejob6546 I can understand not wanting to include the crows, as they were outright racist stereotypes. But I do agree that they should have addressed it a bit better.

[@alfiejob6546]

@@andrewb6194 Exactly, I can't understand why they do these things; it's just stupid. Another thing I can't understand is when studios outright contradicting themselves. This film is good example of this: they removed Pepe Le Pew from the film because he's a bit r@pey (which is understandable), BUT, one of the characters they decided to have make an appearance is Alex from A Clockwork Orange. Let that sink in.

[@arnold20139]

As many references there was in this movie, I literally thought I was watching a compilation of Family Guy references and in between translational gags.

[@danwilliams1989]

I never really saw Lola as sexy in the original. I saw her more as the cool big sis archetype.

[@AndrewConlan]

so basically this movie is just WB going "look at all these licences we don't use"

[@morningblue84]

They could've had just literally made a movie of Bugs and getting back all the Looney Tunes back home from other Warner-themed worlds without a basketball game and it would've been 100 times better a film.

[@theredguy4043]

Literally the 2011 muppet movie

[@morningblue84]

@@theredguy4043 But with Warner Bros. properties. Don't break what isn't broken.

[@wilmagregg3131]

they could even have other warner vilians try to stop them and let us see some toon violence i mean imagine how funny a fight bewteen pennywise and bugs could be

[@gasterthemaster6490]

@@wilmagregg3131 oh no, that's impossible. That would require actually caring! And Warner doesn't care!

[@khdo12346]

SuperEyepatchWolf's version is way better, corporations know jack shit about the true Space Jam's lore

[@aj1218]

I would watch the fuck out of that

[@ovahlord1451]

ngl Michael Jordan vs Lebron would be pretty hype

[@aidangordon2713]

Right? *And* it seems like something the insane WB behind _Lord of the Rings_ and the _Dark Knight_ trilogy would've been all for... instead of this, brought to you be the soulless telephone corporation that stole Warner's face and name.

[@davidmccormick550]

I take offense to a part of what you said! Fan-fiction usually tends to be far more consistent and have better plots than current movies. You meant to say bad fanfiction I think.

[@TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz]

No one cares though

[@cindadimaggio6679]

After watching this I have to say, I completely agree. That’s all. Good video 👍🏻

[@jimrustler]

I noticed that the terrible Tom and Jerry movie we got this year was a test for Space Jam New Legacy... In my opinion, all warner thinks is money, doesn't matter a good history, just money.

[@BlazingKhioneus]

Didnt T&J flop?

[@iankirby4160]

Well they are pretty strapped for cash right now, so it kind of explains itself.

[@sporetv57]

@@BlazingKhioneus I couldn't even make it through that movie. Generic, cliché plot with boring human characters.

[@camilleremiano8463]

Well,aren't all companies like this.

[@lut2843]

Jokes on WB. 🤣😂🤣😂 Space Jam 2 lost money.

[@ihvojd]

Feels more like a sequel to Ready Played One.

[@elonleon4452]

Still better than the ACTUAL ready player one sequel. (Yes, it's a book, but it's still awful)

[@187Streak]

I thought that neutering of Lola would be the only bad thing about this movie

[@katmonroe4611]

😭

[@rokamayono2312]

Space Jam 2 is just that scene from Disney where they shove everything they own down your throat, but with a different company and a movie’s runtime

[@WCBriton]

Worst outcome of this movie; LeBron James patting himself on the back because he's a "producer" now. And he has the temerity to discuss privilege.

[@John-wb1ny]

I mean a film in which the whole thing is based around other entities and calling yourself a producer is very funny but I’ll never underestimate lebrons ego

[@alphalax7747]

Im extremely disappointed the title isn't "Space Jam 2 Is The Definition Of Insanity"

[@romansaguilar7810]

Your childhood is over. Just stop. This movie was made for children. I’m honestly not surprised grown people are judging this. Kids have no power to show their own opinions on this movie

[@alphalax7747]

@@romansaguilar7810 I was making a far cry 3 joke

[@Dr.Oofers]

@@romansaguilar7810 *Man just made a joke and you’re here with the generic “It’S fOr KiDS” argument.*

[@romansaguilar7810]

@@Dr.Oofers I’m littlerally the only one standing up against the movie

[@phuct4980]

@@romansaguilar7810 your statements is extremely unnecessary on this comment thread then.

[@John-doe955]

Honestly, if that had just basically copy pasted the entire plot of the original space jam movie but just had LeBron James replace Michael Jordan I would have respected the movie a lot more and would have probably watched it.

[@THEFurfoot]

I've been bombarded by trailers commercials and crossover products for this movie for weeks now and still have no idea who their even playing basketball against

[@VidtopiaEntertainment]

This movie is literally Pooh’s Adventures The Movie.

[@dannypalin9583]

Just wait until they do Tom & Jerry: Space Jam: A New Legacy!

[@SolarFarle]

Pooh's Adventures in Pooh's Adventures The Movie in Pooh's Adventures in Space Jam 2.

[@nicocarrero5953]

Pooh's Adventures of ME

[@Brindlebrother]

Oh, bother

[@tiamystic]

@@dannypalin9583 Featuring all the Winnie the Pooh characters, the Jungle Book, MLP, Thomas the Tank Engine, and Kim Possible

[@elementalscreator10]

I'd honestly say the only the major ad moment in the first was when Wayne Knight picks up Michael "Wheaties, Nikes, Big Mac, etc." Space Jam 2 was literally WB References and kissing Lebron's ass. I think a big reason for Michael being more likable is the fact that he is helping the toons. In 2, the toons are helping Lebron and he clearly would have someone else's help.

[@Big-Chungus21]

It had big chungus. It deserves an oscar.

[@bignosh]

You gotta respect the effort the put into space jam for the animation, they put in alot of effort to mix 2d with 3d, sad it didn't turn out to well

[@SparkleWolf404]

And then they didn't even credit said animators

[@oksayso]

@@SparkleWolf404 I thought it was just one?

[@SparkleWolf404]

@@oksayso Hard to say how many they didn't credit on account of em being uncredited

[@oksayso]

@@SparkleWolf404 well only one spoke out about not being credited, so I assumed it was one. Either way it’s still messed up.

[@SparkleWolf404]

@@oksayso agreed

[@Esinololly]

The least they could have done was keep the cartoon characters as 2-D animation through out the whole movie. otherwise the CGI just looks like every other movie now adays and it doesnt stand out at all. We pretty much have "CGI exhaustion" at this point. Why CGI something if you don't have to? (oh..right. Money.)

[@usoppfangirl8153]

As a 3D animator, I know myself how hard it is to animate, and seeing all the cg just pains me. To me, some aspects of the cg look really good, particularly the feathers on the blue bad guy. However a lot of the characters' fur look like they either werent rendered properly or were rushed to be rendered. More often than not bad looking cg fur comes down to not having enough time to properly develop it other than it just being made poorly, especially when an animation invloves pros. TLDR some cg looks good, fur looks horrendous and was likely rushed, which is why it looks bad.

[@Esinololly]

@@usoppfangirl8153 thanks for your input, especially since it is your field of expertise! Given the fact that this movie recycled quite a bit from other media already, I am not surprised to hear that is why the CGI fur looks so off sometimes.

[@TetsuRiken]

@@usoppfangirl8153 1. I didn't know that there were Usopp fan girls I guess I should have guessed but that thought never occurred to me 2. Is it just me or does a lot of cgi animation seem very lazy these days? You would know better cause I've seen good 3d stuff but most of it looks worse then Shrek 1 even if it is technically better

[@Sugarsugarkittycat]

@@TetsuRiken its not so much that it's lazy, more like production studios are getting greedy and crunching the CG staff to the point where they no longer have the time to create quality work. it's really sad, the job conditions are inhumane and the art produced as a result is subpar

[@TetsuRiken]

@@Sugarsugarkittycat the only reason I say it's lazy is because it's all animation is anymore at least in the west with occasional outlires

[@Grimmmleigh]

i hated space jam: electric boogaloo, both for the unnecessary references out of nowhere and LeBron James' terrible inexpressive acting

[@KittentheFennecFox]

LeBrons acting was so monotone, like damn can you care about the movie just a little bit

[@FlaminGingerbread]

Didn't Michael Jorden also have shit acting

[@Grimmmleigh]

@@FlaminGingerbread yeah but it made sense for what his characterisation was supposed to be - supposed to be a straight man figure to everyone. Lebron James just has shitty mobile ad tier acting

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

@@Grimmmleigh Yeah, a straightman is necessary for comedy

[@youngcitybandit]

@@FlaminGingerbread in all fairness MJ was on screen a lot less than lebron. from what i recall MJ was just being MJ

[@fc4259]

Can’t wait for Space Jam 3 in 15 years with Zion, Luka, or Giannis.

[@SomeHarbourBastard]

Dissatisfied as I was with this film, I did my usual schtick and thought up my own scenario. Hope you like it... Have the Tunes abducted by new aliens. These new ones are war-mongers who have watched their cartoons and want to learn the secret of cartoon violence as a tool of war. They have three options. One, give the conqueror aliens what they want, and see the Earth potentially conquered next. Two, refuse the request and be vaporised (maybe dipped) for good. Three, make a bet with them… Bugs: “Eh, you a betting ma-uhh… thing, per chance, Doc?” Emperor: “I’m a conqueror! Every battle is a gamble.” So, they challenge him, once again, to a Basketball game. The aliens win, they get the secret of cartoon violence. The Tunes win, they have to go back to where they came from and stay. Even when the Emperor brings out his players [even more intimidating than the Monstars], they just brush it off, again, still overconfident from their first triumph. But there's one thing that they don’t count on… it’s been 25 years, and while they are timeless, Michael Jordan is nearing 60. While this figuratively pops their balloon. He gives them a confidence boosting (like you expect from the greatest), he can’t play, but he agrees to return as their Coach. A few Tooney training sessions and montages later, they’re ready to play... As side characters, I'd bring in the Tiny Toons. Young and desperate to prove themselves to the old masters, they volunteer to help behind the scenes. They would come through as secondary heroes, when the game stops going in the Tune Squad’s favour and it’s looking bad for them, Buster and Babs discover that the aliens are cheating and, using the cartoon violence that they so seek, thwart the aliens and even the odds back up. I'd also include Yakko, Wakko and Dot on the sidelines, the brothers as the game announcers [Yakko yaks, as they use to say], and Dot as the Cheer Captain.