A Masters Player Just Got Caught Cheating

[@Kaiff2]

At this point I can safely say he's banned Almost a month of no playtime Accounts don't get deleted on account trackers so we have to go by how long it's been since they last played

[@CeistylAela7205]

I was going to say, your explanation is great for me. Humans reacting down to the millisecond is not likely due to our processing power

[@japposaurusrex]

No I just hopped onto another account.

[@ssxxxxss]

@@japposaurusrex Endless cracked league accounts to pick from, Even if this was a joke, It happens, the scripter sites give free acounts to subscripted members.

[@daemonsdiablo]

Did you watch the reactions of Rhapsody in Blue? They’ve got the same dodge timing in a lot of the footage.

[@zzzz-b7d]

The Vayne auto at 11min into the video revealed them in the bush not the krug.

[@Chuchurute]

Just to put it in to perspective, in fighting games, we use frames when we're talking about the speed of a move. A move with 16 frames, is at the limit of being unreactable. It's possible, but not easy for everybody. 91 MS, the speed he's reacting to, is around 10 frames. If it happens, once, maybe we can say it was luck. But if it's consistent, it's definitively a script.

[@Herbile7]

That is a REALLY good view on things that helps put it in to perspective.

[@darkwaffle787]

Holy shit 10 frames?! Yep that guy is deffo script

[@blindfire3167]

It somewhat depends? Like you said, it'll rarely happen, but there are people (clearly not this guy, he's cheating) who develop incredible game sense and just predict when something is going to happen. It won't be consistently every single time, but there's plays by Lustboy and WildTurtle from previous seasons where they react within 6 frames of something happening time and time again in the same game, but they're just predicting when something is going to happen so it's very possible to do it more than once and not be considered a cheater or lucky. If a REALLY GOOD player decided to cheat and script, it would be incredibly hard to tell because they know how to hide it (especially not making it so damn sensitive to where they're charming a LB every time she jumps lol) and know how to not overdo their plays while staying within the realm of being possible.

[@sigglace8087]

Mf thought he was Faker

[@Kaiff2]

Yeah this is what i tried to point out. Just because he reacts after the spell comes out, didnt mean he wasnt in the process of predicting beforehand, creating a coincidence Obviously in this case its a bit more blatant haha

[@skankjochem]

You always find the greatest gems when you're on the toilet.

[@SolstaceWinters]

I swallow gems so I find them *_IN_* the toilet too.

[@NikoTurnip]

Me rn

[@PackRatPantry]

Often as I go to sit the gems glow the brightest

[@Imahetler]

To be fair i did find kaif's channel 5 years ago while in the toilet

[@draggy76]

gotta take shits to post shit.

[@musikmann95]

what bother me is that, even if he gets banned, he ruined games for other people, they aren't getting that LP or time back. I fucking hate cheaters

[@Chien-m2z]

Just get good

[@scorpionlord9175]

@@Chien-m2z your a cheater, arent you? turn the cheats off. 95% of the time you cheaters are shit XD

[@LinusAkaPano]

Meanwhile chess websites give you LP back whenever a cheater gets banned IF they are in your history. No matter how long ago.

[@glenndiddy]

@@LinusAkaPano Yep and it's only fair, if you win against a cheater good job you deserve the LP. If you lost against a cheater they refund you because you clearly didn't get a fair chance. Riot doesn't want to do that though, you just get 2 autofill protected games instead

[@XAlpt]

@@LinusAkaPano tbh it's a historical game with the least amount of variables, no glitches no bugs only moves being notated & databased through almost a century AND it is 1v1 so it is extremely simple to do that compared to a game with waaay more variables

[@banana9494]

The hilarious part is a lot of cheaters genuinely think theyre good at the game, i aspire to that level of delusion

[@milojevicdavid9956]

I rly cant understand that. I really dont know how its possible for ppl to be this delusional.

[@petrusv8752]

@@milojevicdavid9956 i actually get it. for the longest time i thought i was good at the game because i could play top and kill my opponent laner. now i look back at that time and yeah sure my trades and mechanics were good enough to not lose me lane but i didnt know macro, wave management or the importance of consistent cs were even a thing and those cost me many games. TLDR: you can FEEL like you are good at the game without being good at the game due to lack of information.

[@AskaLang]

Because they are good. Imagine you on a race competition, you are a fckng good athlete, you can run fast, you can run for a long time. Then there is a 100kg guy appears, who strugles to climb even on the stairs at his home. But he pull up his Lamborghini and won a race in a minute. You may cry hows it unfair, how he's bad, but in fact - he has Lambo and you not. In fact - he won and you are not. Same situtation with the scripters. Are they good? Yes. Do i want a scripter or a just a good player to be in my team in my promos? I definetely want a scripter. Simple as.

[@sarahfortune7760]

@@AskaLang What is bro lying and justifying about?

[@AskaLang]

@@sarahfortune7760 simple facts

[@GeekHelix]

Account is Lv 38. Account hit Lv 30 1 month ago, and then this guy starts playing 10 days ago, plays straight for 5 days and rockets 1074 LP on Pyke with a 74% win ratio on Pyke alone and a 70% WR on all. Yes... that is 100% a bought account and yes it's 100% for the sole purpose of scripting because he gets banned every time and he doesn't want to rank up to Lv30 each time.

[@GeekHelix]

He also played with a guy called LNG Gala 34 times who also has a disgusting WR for the last few times. So it could just be a cheating clan.

[@acrn9293]

@@GeekHelix LNG is the 3rd seed from the lpl for worlds not some cheating clan lol, gala is the ADC and Hang is the sup

[@taddeustentakel8598]

i thought the bans were actual hardware bans, so it would not matter if he buys bazilions of new accounts, or not?

[@richter9485]

​@@acrn9293 cheaters love impersonating pros to make themsleves look more legit/pretend they have skill to less knowledgeable players. Visiting Worlds players get Riot Accounts that already start at level 30 with high mmr. If the account is levelled to 30 its obviously not a riot account given to pros. cheikikingbrozzz is LNG Hang real worlds account and they dont play a ton of games. He is D4 with less than 40 games. Same with LNG Gala who is wenwhatwen D1 Only people from wildcards region tend to have high games.

[@checkyoursixgaming]

The account I think was to BOOST Rhapsody in Blue as well.... take a look at that account.

[@guymontag5]

0:53 fun fact! "Elo" is the name of the Hungarian-American physicist who created the ranking system, it's not an abbreviation that needs to be pronounced "E-L-O" :)

[@titusfortunus2916]

... holy shit I didn't believe you I was going to call bullshit so hard but I learned something today. Specifically something about Arpad Elo.

[@MátéStang]

Eyy let's gooo. My people creating ranking system for LoL lmao

[@christianlenik5307]

He is Not American though 😅🇭🇺

[@meowietham]

​@@christianlenik5307 He was born in Hungary, moved to the US so usually we say Hungarian-American in that situations.

[@Smug-Smirk]

@@meowietham But it's not even like he moved to the US at the age of 2 or 3 to warrant saying that. He moved at the age of 10. If you move to China as a preteen then are you suddenly part Chinese? lol

[@Tænki]

3:17 The blitz dodging the Anivia Q when he knows he's dead is not a master's play, he wouldve just stood still and died, but he perfectly dodges it within the miliseconds.

[@Tænki]

11:04 Was Vayne autoing from the bush that gave vision, still a like 0 ms reaction charm (while farming btw)

[@christianlenik5307]

Yes! I would be Like "K Im ded!"

[@antoshkagamechanle4156]

@@stankobarabata2406 its to mess with time of the enemy. he's wasting time on trying killing u even if inevitable. works better on lower ladder works nice in mid ladder and hard but doable at high. its to be in the head of the enemy. make enemy win or die but remember that match.

[@titon7608]

I'm glad he was caught this blatantly. With the replay system being bugged (you used to be able to just look up someone's name in client and watch their previous ranked matches). Its REALLY hard to tell if someone was scripting from one game unless its THIS blatant since you cant even open their match history. Had someone play in a VERY suspect way that could be a mixture of luck and skill but there just werent enough skillshot champions to tell from that one match,

[@Kaiff2]

Theres a program called runitback. When you look up a game in leagueofgraphs, the url will contain the game ID Slap it in runitback and it will download it from riot servers It must be current patch though

[@Zoey--]

Won't get banned.

[@MPSmaruj]

Cheaters ruining your game or a spyware-level intrusive anti-cheat software? Riot: "Why not both?"

[@Shulti_5]

Right on !

[@catmando268]

lmao.

[@blindfire3167]

Luckily, this guy cheating was bad. Nothing scarier than a cheater that's ACTUALLY decent at the game meaning they know exactly how to hide it and just look like they're Faker's son.

[@christianlenik5307]

Or even better

[@manapotu6623]

fortunately, good players don't get satisfied with wins that they got with cheats, so its hardly a thing, cheaters are usually people that can't play good so they HAVE to use cheats to be good, without cheats they are like a game journalist with no quest arrows trying to figure out the game.

[@miuletzmitzu6641]

@@manapotu6623 I wouldn't say that's the case. Low elo cheaters are caught more simply because they don't know how to hide it at all. This guy is like what, gold level at most without his scripts? His lack of macro shows it. He's pushing without vision, he doesn't provide vision for his jungler in the beginning. Now imagine a frustrated emarald/low diamond player that wants to hit challenger, their macro is already pretty decent, they just need to learn how to use the scripts and that's it. You can't imagine how many challenger/high diamond players use scripts, they just know how to hide it and are already good players. "Good players don't get satisfied with cheated wins" yeah but they're also frustrated from not being top of the top so they resort to cheats to get to it.

[@bradleymoore2797]

That guy that doesn't kill in shooting games but only uses scripts on a person until they're low hp and lets his teammates get the kill cam.

[@StoneKnight1]

Life is not fair, your favorite streamer can be cheater to and you won't know it

[@MrSyltphademus]

The craziest thing about the charm at 7:34 is that he likely would have hit the minion proactively, and he would have gotten chained by LB if he was late. That was probably the literal frame perfect charm.

[@Zoey--]

Yeah as an ahri player I often try to predict the leblanc only for my charm to zip through her dash too early or clip a minion that just happened to move 1 inch to the side.

[@TheEstafista]

​@@Zoey-- As Naut OTP I really like to stop LB enages with my Q. If you hit your Q on LB before she finishes her W dash it does no damage because damage happens then she actually dashes to the place she needs. So canceling that engage with Naut Q is possible, but really hard. For that to happen you litteraly just keep your eyes on LB and predict that hoping she didint got smart enough and not gonna do a very short dash in front of her to bait out your hook and then engage at no risk. That on replays looks really good but also it is quite clear that Naut is just looking at LB and waiting to react, there's nothink of sorts here. Every time she just reacts perfectly to cancel her damage AND even tryes to dodge the chain. Insane give away

[@Slyslug]

"they have vanguard now, so like, you cant hack" about the funniest thing he could have said.

[@OraeviaYT]

every single reaction in the blitzcrank and ahri game was almost exactly 91ms. i can understand being insane at reacting once or twice, but once its consistently the exact same time, there's no chance it isn't a script. if it wasnt a script, you'd be on a pro team winning worlds every year

[@opposingcritter]

It's those perfect little micro steps dodging shit esp when its a clusterfuck and they continue to do it while in a mosh pit.

[@midknightcrisis8612]

8:06 tbf, in this matchup, keeping an eye out for w engages and having your finger on charm at all times is the usual laning experience vs LeBlanc. The reason the streamer didnt react is bc it is expected behavior. Not saying it changes anything about it being scripted, but it's more hidden since it aligns with what high elo players consciously do in this matchup.

[@Azuciea]

Yup, thats why he didnt notice until he blind w in 2x in a row and had it happen.

[@PerfectZeroMusic_]

7:58 Also, notice that he also dodges the Le Blanc tether instantly after he throws his charm out He tried to do it again later when he was in the same situation, but there wasn't actually enough space to dodge. The first time the Le Blanc player just angled it slightly off (but it still would have hit him if he hadn't dodged)

[@Kukakkau]

16:12 what's even more telling is that both him and his duo partner turn back at the exact same moment

[@Kaiff2]

Aye I dont wanna accuse this guy, I havent looked into it

[@badkid3333]

I feel like a script wouldn't turn the Swain back there, it wasn't near him whatsoever so there's no reason for the script to flag that as a risk, the dude is obviously getting boosted regardless though

[@miki_mochi]

@@Kaiff2 Maybe you should look into it though! Could be interesting. I don't think he's scripting, necessarily. BUT. If it's duoing with a scripter, is it not possible that he's "safely" boosting his own account? Like imagine, "Dude, can you script and boost me with an account you dont care about?" I wonder if that's a thing. Completely talking out my ass here btw. Just a random thought I had since they did play together a lot, apparently. idk.

[@Donovan_Du_Bois]

I always wonder why these scripters don't set a MS delay to emulate human reaction times. Sure, your scripting becomes less effective, but you also don't look like an obvious cheater.

[@glenndiddy]

because then they only go from gold to emerald. They have 0 game knowledge so they invest everything into fake mechanics to boost up as high as they can for ego

[@yorik1006]

If you're going to get banned, might aswell use the whole package

[@coolertrooper]

Those are bad cheats/cheaters. Good cheats have humanized clicks and variable dodge delays. Depending on ur settings

[@Azguella]

IIRC Fastest reaction time was 101 millisecond Ahri just has very good gaming chair I bet

[@Kaiff2]

True true true!

[@milojevicdavid9956]

time to make her use a gaming wheelchair

[@J663B]

As much as I agree This was a myth by the Olympics rule makers for false starts in sprinting (Thier sample size was in the so gle digits), basically every major event someone gets a sub 100ms reaction time and gets a false start

[@Azguella]

@@J663B Visual test done with gaming gamers was 120ms but also generally humans tend to be at the 0.2 to 0.3 seconds

[@J663B]

@@Azguella again, I agree with you, Just saying the "100ms" number was pushed by the Olympic sprinting rules

[@LunaTrix212]

I love that after that copyright claim by that one cheating shop, it supercharged you to do more of these vids

[@kaelvolcain721]

I believe the vayne auto is what reveals them at 11:05

[@justin9744]

It is. This guy doesn't actually know what he is talking about.

[@lavaavalon]

7:46 it took him 91ms to react to the ability a research I found says that it takes about 25-65ms for your finger muscles to react to a command (tested when the subject was completely focused on clicking the button upon the sound queue) normal keyboards have a delay of ~40ms and professional keyboards have delay of ~15ms mice have a delay of ~8 ms without counting the time you need to move something with weight across a table that means that if he is the best there is of muscle reaction he still has about 25ms to react and click the charm button and then within that also click the mouse button exactly where the enemy is if we consider he is in the average and reacts at about 45ms instead of 25ms he would have literally no time to react to that, as 5ms is not within the human reaction speed, if he is playing in 60fps that is in between frames, even at 144fps it would be before a single frame came out if we argue that he is average and has a good keyboard he still only gets 30ms to react with his muscles and hardware delay considered, still only a couple of frames of action at 60fps

[@lillepil7]

at 11:00 the ahri gets vision cus vayne autos her, not from the krug

[@boomnukeshroom]

you should consider seeing Garden Warfare 2 cheats, sense the game stopped getting proper updates back in 2019 the things cheaters can do are crazy. (I.E. they can make someone else's character level 46 when the cap is 45, causing the game to think something is up and prohibits you from entering online matches. more specifically, a cheater can *BAN YOU* )

[@spiderninja8779]

Man! it's sad what happened to GW2. They even added EA anticheat to counter it and (like vanguard) it did nothing.

[@nemak89]

10:20 He did not even cast it to hit her in her dash as an actual player would do. He casted it next to him on pixel precise position where LB was landing, which would be extremely risky if done by player (because the angle and the timing have to be perfect to hit the charm like that) for no good reason. That one is a 100% giveaway that it is a script.

[@mralfiircu6642]

The Anivia grab at 1:53. There is indication she would turn around: the mere presence of Blitzcrank. She's anticipating his grab, which she successfully did, and if that Blitzcrank wasn't scripting, that grab is pretty similar to a normal outmaneuver.

[@ZeroGaming-el7yt]

Yep. It was the only way she could reasonably dodge

[@Dalauan_Sparrow]

thats what i was thinking

[@BarefootCM]

Especialy since she was at the wall, shes only got 3 real options: keep going, stop or backtrack. Even bronze players can make that "hard read"

[@AshtoinePH]

1:30 it's a simple counter to a counter that most players that played champions with hook does. Since anivia have vision of blitz what's going through her mind is "Ahhh, Blitz is probably gonna hook infront of me, I should turn around when he throw a hook" and then ofcourse the simple counter to that is hook just behind the target

[@blackwasp1930]

The jittering and spazzing of that guys character almost seems like a tell. Didnt look like anyone else was doing that

[@OmenOfStorms]

So at 16:00 the pyke fought his script and walked back into darius q for a frame and took the hit lol

[@AryanGenetics]

Darius hits that Q everytime. Pyke can only dodge it if he dashes or times the Q perfectly.

[@squishysquid6796]

I dont see how people can enjoy using cheats to play for them. there's no thrill or enjoyment i can see in that. it just seems dull and boring.

[@beeentertainment1112]

You can use it to boost account to master then sell it on market. Before vg released there's a couple of scripters doing that and cash in extra money monthly. It's good side money while having a dopamine boost destroying low elo lobbies

[@WildcardGrey]

Name and shame is always the way to go.

[@TracerBH]

To be fair, 01:51 would be classic master+ gameplay predicting this type of stuff. Im not defending him, but it would be a classic predict at this level

[@sk-yd5ge]

Do this shit constantly as a yas player with my nado. Was not even sus

[@rsdherjhh8090]

19:24 i also went from gold to masters in the span of a month but the difference is i stopped using a trackpad and got an actual mouse

[@mrberenike]

Kaif going off at the twitch tilting at ekko was brill haha

[@BoopaKing]

15:00 the crazy thing about cast times in LoL is that they can't be interrupted by _anything_ short of dying. Any ability as long as it has a cast time _will_ go off no matter how many stuns or transformations or roots or charms or silences you throw at them the moment the cast time initiates. It's an odd feature that I don't know the reason for, but it's always been there.

[@ichabodthecrane]

he screamed like Gus Breaking Bad when it clicked that the ahri was scripting

[@smokefire3]

anyone wanna see Riot throw all cheaters into the shadow realm and make them vs each other? imagine the cluster fuck of a 5 scripters vs 5 scripters, who's scripts are better? find out NEXT TIME! on LoL Cheaters are SHITHEADS!....but its always nice to watch an early video from ya Kaif, gives me something to watch while I wake up.

[@pelayoantunabouzas6849]

As someone who wants to see a special olympics where everyone is as doped as humanly possible I would love to see this.

[@grilledflatbread4692]

Long, long ago (10-15 years ago) FPS hacks had tiers - if you paid for Gold, for example, the script would beat the Silver hack user. I forgot which game but probably counterstrike.

[@eimillian216]

15:10 the hook in squirrel is a thing, from what I can tell. CC'ing a pyke who's channeling his q just makes him release it where he's aiming.

[@highnoon2844]

Just in case you arent aware, you dont need someone added to watch their replays. If you look up their IGN in client, you can see their profile and watch any replay you want. I always used to do that when I wanna watch a chall player's vod

[@darthvaderdylan]

18:26 welcome to league, where someone will make the most NPC plays and get mad at other teammates.

[@pelayoantunabouzas6849]

I love how I dropped the game when they made Vanguard mandatory because I did not want it on my pc only to see these people getting away with cheating still.

[@zenkozenko4989]

2:19, idk the most sus thing is blitz' grab going through that minion. It's been forever but if you've played blitz you know those minion hitboxes are larger than the sun /s

[@pablorojas7381]

it was his minion not the enemies therefor he can hook through it

[@zenkozenko4989]

@@pablorojas7381 i am so incredibly high and stupid good lord

[@okinataketori9713]

3:34 that's what people call the scripter wiggle (when they don't dodge they just micro adjust to dodge something then go right back to where they pathed to)

[@goallinjj]

Glad for the detailed step by step analysis. Even someone like me who doesn’t play can follow what’s going on.

[@TitanicKoboldSelmers]

11:00 Vayne autoattacks Ahri giving her vision of everyone in the brush. It wasn't the krugs. It was Vayne.

[@_Cursed_Queen_]

I’m glad you’re speeding it down and describing what’s happening because I’m watching them fight and have no idea what’s going on lol Im here eating lunch and decide to check the vid out, don’t play the game but its interesting none the less even though I’m slightly lost about who is who

[@kador7182]

1:52 no that's pretty normal tbh. You don't need an indication to know that someone might try to click behind as soons as he hears the hook

[@BarefootCM]

Yeah thats a regular interaction even as low as bronze/silver. Its not like it was a perfect flash direction read

[@krakixel]

The funny thing is he ALWAYS duos, and his partners are Ttv Weakgodx#crow and Rhapsody In Blue. Look at his "Recently played with" list.

[@skelecharge4273]

I am a casual player, and while Playing toplane I have done some dumb dodging where I do so without thinking, in the sense of prediction. However, less than 5 minutes in and yeah, this is definitely dodge assistance at the minimum. Once or twice in a 1v1, sure, constantly when getting 2v1 or 3v1'd is a big giveaway lol.

[@aname8174]

at 12:37, he does have vision of the lb dashing into the bush, seeing this clip made me think he wasn't scripting, but the dodges (like the rell, or vi) are obvious scripts

[@glenndiddy]

So I need to install vanguard which is basically computer cancer, just to get fortnite danced on by little timmy on his script anyway? That's a bad deal

[@ayanithtalreign]

Anti-cheat only exists for game devs to steal private data. Cheaters never get caught, and a lot of them are paypiggy streamers.

[@GodsDissapointment]

If you want the honest answer. Kernel level anti cheat will never be more effective than regular anti cheat simply because it's so easy to set up the cheat program as kernel too so it runs before Vanguard does. If anything Kernel level cheats end up being more useless the regular anti cheats once they get cracked because they can only scan what they get launched before. So if a program, in this case the cheats get launched before them they are absolutely useless.

[@ayanithtalreign]

@@GodsDissapointment No anti-cheat will ever be better than sanity checks by the server you're phoning into. If someone suddenly gains a value that doesn't make sense like a change in cash, they're cheating.

[@MrHuntingClaw]

So in contemplation of the last bit of the clip, can we safely assume orrn ult makes scripts wack out as it happens twice instead of once, so if they dodge the first hit at once, they usually can't avoid the 2nd.

[@theghost8914]

i dont know if anyone else saw it but assuming the the replay shows the same thing that was seen in game at about 3:42 the fist he throws go through where the bird died. not where it was on screen

[@TheDireLynx]

one thing that's easy to forget that you need to take into account is not just human reaction time but also your connection. if you're at a tournament where all players are physically in one location, it doesn't matter anymore, but if you're playing online the minimum amount of time needed to react to something is roughly 150ms + 2 * ping for auditory tells and 200ms + 2 * ping for visual ones. if you're an absolute god, it's possible for it to be 100ms + 2 * ping once a month, maybe. I bet he has a 45ms ping to the server which is why these reactions are all very consistent on the exact time of the dodge.

[@MizManFryingP]

One thing to note is that there are two extra factors that come into play when measuring his reaction time -- his latency and the tick rate in which these replays are recorded.

[@VoyivodaFTW1]

Having to preempt to tech 5 frame throws in street fighter where you can clearly see everything and then see this guy on reaction charm and dodge someone that wasn't even on his screen is crazy. ain't no way.

[@gus6777]

Love your attitude and your attention to detail. Your videos are great fun to watch. Thank you for uploading this

[@blazerfox22]

The part that tips me of is the jitters. Everybody jitters a little because of the lag but unless he has trash internet, he jitters to the high heavens whenever he “dodges”

[@TheRoonie222]

1:58 is honestly how I play Crank. When I grind (don't do it as much as I am now in my 30s and life has taken priority) I'm consistently one of the highest rated Blitzes in the world. You begin to realize that everyone jukes by changing direction at the last second. The Anivia had two options on places to go, either keep going the direction she was going or try to dodge it by going backwards. Most players choose the try to dodge option. The dodges and reactions with his skill shots though, 1,000% caught.

[@RagnarokMaster]

In the Ahri game, the script was active at 7:00 during Leblanc's first blood. I had to slow it down to 0.25x and go frame-by-frame, but, after Leblanc's combo started (Q > Flash > Ignite > W) there is a single frame where Ahri starts to walk down, and them, right after Leblanc popped the Q mark with W, instant Ahri Charm + two autos to trigger Electrocute to stop Leblanc from retreating back to the W shadow. Ahri still burned to death with Ignite ticks though, but, it's still hilarious.

[@jacrecrux4134]

The Ahri charms weren't even getting cast in the direction of the Lb but exactly at the the dash target spot bro wasn't even trying to hide it

[@curt_the_hurt_xx3356]

he wasn't cheating, Clara put those there KEKW

[@xarm23]

I had an odd idea. Some team based pvp game (like LoL or I dunno, Counterstrike) except one player on each team can activate built in cheats. At various points in the game, it pauses and each team can vote on who they think the cheater on the other team is. If they get it wrong they are penalised in some way (team-wide but minor), but correctly identifying the cheater will get that player removed from the game for a while (about 25% of a normal match length or so) and remove their ability to activate the cheats.

[@oskar417]

in this blitz game, i find it interesting because, like if u play a hook champ or xerath u literally aim at them walking backward that's literally a thing because most people do that

[@rixyl7475]

If you watch it frame by frame blitzcrank actually hit Q before the anivia turned in the first scene, havent watched the rest but that one from my perspective is normal but weird.

[@HitchSolveEtCoagula]

for sure in the ezreal game you know he is saying to his team, "sorry, vanguard issue."

[@OldRecordMedia]

The reactions are frame-perfect, but the delay is due to the client having yet received that information from the server. 91ms to 104ms reaction time is likely his ping. The average ping from coast-to-coast US is about 100 to 120ms to give an example. So if you subtract the ping from the reaction time shown, you'll get their true reaction time which is likely instant if not between 1 to 10ms.

[@Jandiss]

it's really hard to tell, at the level of someone at Master, you can read certain moves, and specificly Rell is VERY linear. A lot of that Blitz Game looked "fine" to me, but in the Ahri Game it's very obvious.

[@Slimjim2147]

I was sitting here like, "I know this laugh from a wow KZbinr." had no idea kaif had a league channel

[@Zevirem]

Saw a full premade of people testing scripts in aram. They didn't do anything but hang back the whole time and dodge skillshots. Never bought items.

[@howlingdin9332]

The charm into the bush wasn't just fast, it was precognition (absent a script.) Ahri started casting the charm before the player could even have known LeBlanc was there.

[@OutshineUwU]

What makes it the most obvious is that it's always players with a skill level of plat/emerald that do it, so when they script to masters+ it becomes so blatant due to lack of other things

[@Mardenii1]

This video was insane. It made me realize how crazy and advanced these scripts are. It felt like scripts in 2015 were the absolute perfection and that there was no way further. But looking at this made me understand that the limit I thought of has been broken so many times. The script can pick up on audio cues. Audio cues. Absolutely unbeliavable. You don't even need to have vision anymore because the script can hear the first milisecond of any abbility being cast and still somehow predict their location. I want to say that this is getting out of hand but this has been already out of hand so many times already. Even with vanguard these scripts are gonna be more insane if they are combined with AI that is if they are already not. What I also wish for is that you could report players on the websites also and that the site could have some league bot that reports their accounts. If that's somehow possible.

[@Akamaru015]

so to clarify, as someone withg MANY MANY hours on lulu. its not the script. how whimsy works interacts differently for pyke and jax or any charged ability that is not a movement ability like Zac jump or Vi Q. if the charge is currently active, it will immediatly let go and the ability will still activate, so for Jax you will still get stuns even if your whymsied and pyke you will still hook. its fkn borked.

[@toefu6182]

i genuinely dont get what's the point of cheating in competitive games. For single player, it's absolutely fine but in competitive, winning by basically just watching is just so bad. Like why are you even playing at that point.

[@hellstarremina1]

Ego

[@frickendachicken1856]

I love this, I'm fascinated by cheaters

[@Rei-zt2rr]

15:10 as a Pyke main, yes, this is possible, but its EXTREMELY precise to get the hook off before the poly cancels it

[@zacharybryant3865]

Idk if it's the audio cue on the clip at 12:45. I think it may be the brief visual. Does that change it to 91ms? Idk. But that appears to be the giveaway to the script to identify point of origin to target point. Regardless... really shitty that this happens.

[@leon_andre12]

The reason as to why he can script even with vanguard comes down to a tool called DMA (Direct memory access) which can view and interact with your ram directly thus bypassing kernel level anti cheat, they aren't fool-proof

[@IAmaLiability-vr9xr]

I just watched to 11 minutes in where Vi got revealed while charging Q. That happened because auto attacks from inside a brush will give vision for a while. Vayne auto attacked.

[@MartyrPandaGaming]

So, I used to play this niche MMO and it had a real problem with Brazilian Bots. I was working with a group that sought these bots out and we knew what to look for, because we knew the programs they used, how they worked and what it was doing so we could chip away at them with bans. I can see a couple of those methods working on League, all of it happening locally and above the table as far as Vanguard is aware (to my knowledge of it, but could with changes (which would not be easy though)). The best method would be really slow with the what I am talking about. However, that was before the whole "AI" development. With some of those models, you could, very quickly, train one to give you Pro level reaction times, without the issues these scripts have with inhuman reactions. It's possible people are already doing it, because it's incredibly easy. The hard part is the AI and what you would need to do with it. I'm not about to even begin coming close to talking about that though. I don't think *_that_* little of League players. Hahaa.

[@WolfBergMenace]

Ah midlane rubbing one out under their turret instead of covering a potential invade, my favorite.

[@mokamokasusuama]

The reason blitz's dodges look sus and got them caught for scripting is that their neutral movement does not match their jukes and dodges, someone who actually dodges like Blitz was doing is constantly moving in a similar fashion while there is no fighting and rarely walk in a straight line, blitz moves mostly in straight lines until it is time to dodge.

[@Kamiioznes]

at 9:23. normally, Ahri would throw E at where Leblance starts her W, not sideway like that

[@kannaharuka]

15:36 i found out (the hard way) k'sante can w when he channels it before getting polymorphed, maybe its the same here

[@Kasakit01]

Craziest cheater i've ever seen was a vayne flashing out of a blitzcrank ult

[@nicklasdamsgaard4655]

05:03 - I was laughing, that was pretty sick

[@SpaghettiBelly]

If we ever saw the mouse one mentioned for these scripture we'd either see barely any movement due to the script doing all the work or it'll buy out and just show mouse movements that looks like someone's having a seizure

[@IIIAnchani]

The issue is his consistency. I can get a 50 ms flash or a 120 ms flash response to let's say a leona flash + e, but if it's consistently 91ms that is clear evidence of cheating. Anything below 150 ms is either prediction (which is possible, but it would have variance) or a script. If it is consistent, it's a script.

[@Eeryfy]

1:52 is not rare at all, it's a common thing for players that are up against a wall to step back you can try it in your games once you can recognize this pattern

[@TheGreadiestOne]

Nicd and easy series while I wait for more peak videos to coke out on the main channel this is the life

[@leamurdrake]

Just had a game get terminated by vanguard last night for a cheater. Upon reviewing the game, my friends and i are pretty sure it was the enemy akali mid

[@larrychin5238]

To be fair the first backstep read on anivia isn't uncommon at all. any support main who plays hook champs reliably shoots for backstep reads

[@magiwastaken]

15:32 I didn't even know that Lulu's W has a travel time and I play that champ. It just happens basically instantaneously and typically cancels any channels. What in the world...

[@kreherkim]

pretty normal blitz hooks if you have any gamesense as a hookchamp people always go backwards or towards walls

[@XJ9LoL]

Thought it was going to be varrock fields bgm @ the start but nope.

[@bakabule1014]

If a champ's skill is used and moving (like pyke hooks) and the champ is polymorphed, the skill's effect still takes effect

[@naomhangreaney1255]

Thats not a reaction time, thats actual future sight

[@marcuspvxea]

Vanguard doesn't prevent cheats. People have been cheating since it was released. It only works when its new until people find a way to circumstance it, which is always gonna be possible