Dra-C & Gattle Development History

[@Arkeo36]

Dra-C is probably what a space use mobile suit would look like if the giant robot concept was allowed to approach the most realism possible. I could see it appearing in something like Patlabor or as a dedicated space use armored trooper in VOTOMs.

[@megagundamva2694]

if we work hard on Robotics and Scpae exploration i can see us making something liek the Dra-c to test space flight, short distance space exploration, Robotics in space ECT

[@Astronopolis]

Id say Ball is the most realistic. Just a pod with a gun and some manipulators, perfect design.

[@Arkeo36]

@@Astronopolis ball is the most realistic, no doubt, but it isn't really a giant robot. The Dra-C is still humanoid in silhouette.

[@megagundamva2694]

@@Astronopolis Too boring for me ill take Dra-c any day

[@duelgundam]

The Zaku, and in turn, the Gundam as well, was more of a multi-environment machine, being able to operate in both space and earth with minimal modifications. The Dra-C was primarily meant for space use only, as Axis and Delaz Fleet primarily stayed and operated in space, so they didn't need to really consider operations in gravity when designing it.

[@AFlyingEwok]

Zeon failed to use the Dra-C properly which is why it has a lackluster reputation. It should've been used in high-speed hit and run attacks or equipped with sniper rifles to take pot shots at enemies then zip away before the target can retaliate. This isn't the opening of The Last Jedi.

[@Plaprad]

I'd argue they would have been brutal if more were built. I always thought they were an actual design that wasn't produced for long. But if there were only 30, yeah they ain't lasting long. But several squadrons doing mass attacks on mobile suits.... They'd be a great blocking force to keep Federation suits tied up while the Zeon suits do whatever voodoo needs doing.

[@keirgomcginlay2044]

Zeon, like many 'oooh look at us, we gonna be an empire' types get a bit obsessed with image over practicallity. Where is the glory in a pragmatic hit and run blitz tactic? Shocking displays of power, climactic duels, supreme outplays. That's what they strive for. The same things that tend to help cost such factions wars. (See examples asthe Nazis and the American Confederacy.) Why would a Zabi invest in these when he could have a giant space laser, or Big Zam? Much fancier.

[@reeseolsen4052]

Funny thing is in GBO2 the Dra-C Kai (Heavy), which is classified as a Support type compared to the Raid type Dra-C & General type Dra-C Custom, can actually use the same 135mm Anti-Ship rifle as the Zudah & GM Camouf.

[@revenvrake7412]

What this thing really needed instead of that gatling or vulcan gun was to go whole hog on a big bazooka. If its gonna hit and run it needs a big first strike weapon, and outside of a beam rifle the Bazooka is about as good as a Zeon mobile suit is gonna get. Plus, less need for absorbing recoil. Even adapting the Zaku's bazooka instead of the Dom's I think would have made this a better mobile weapon.

[@GundamVet]

​​@@keirgomcginlay2044 Don't forget that the Delaz Fleet was a ragtag remnant group, so one would think they'd swallow their pride, but they didn't. They still let their hubris get in their way as evidenced in the way they used the Dra-C.

[@derricklung]

Dra-C is my favorite mobile suit. Despite its crappy specs, 0083 made it look fast, aggressive and more than just a pushover grunt.

[@EksaStelmere]

The Dra-C is one of those units I loved the instant I saw it and it more or less stayed that way. I have quite the appreciation for the existence of what basically amounts to an improvised fighting vehicle of the Zeon machines.

[@mercenarygundam1487]

Am I the only one that wants a Dra-C with actual legs? Scavenged from a GM/Zaku might work.

[@yujilee112]

aren't those just normal zaku ii?

[@GundamMeister357]

That’s just a Zaku 2 F2

[@Plaprad]

Or, just for the fact it would anger a lot of people and be considered a crime against nature, put some GM legs on it.

[@diggydawg463]

Just post your Gundam Breaker 4 build.

[@mercenarygundam1487]

@@diggydawg463 Okay, Newtype. Read my mind why don't you?

[@TheGelgoogGuy]

Finally, a video on the Leeroy Jenkins of mobilesuits!

[@Plaprad]

I'm just glad to know someone else is out there old enough to get that one.

[@vustvaleo8068]

meanwhile in the Gunpla community we have the "cursed" Dra-C that still had the Zaku legs, lol.

[@teslashark]

Isn't that the Dra-B?

[@armydude102]

What's it called? Never heard of that.

[@VentA_7]

9:14 head canon, but with how many Gattles get blown up, I wouldn’t be surprised if they salvaged remains of Gattles and gutted them for parts, thus having a surplus of thrusters to strap onto the Dra-C

[@sethmurphy7243]

My head canon is that if the OYW dragged out into several years the Dra-C would still be the natural evolution of Zeonic space use mobile suit mass production. Fast, cheap, and disposable, it’s basically the Volksjäger for the Zeeks.

[@Astronopolis]

Bro ive been watching you for at least 10 years now! From model kit reviews to in depth lore, monthly news, to technical development, you’ve become a pillar of English speaking gundam fandom! Love your work, hope to see you for a long time going forward!

[@a.p.studios8713]

I still like the fact that despite all the changes the torso and left arm remains the same on the dra c as the zaku f2, making it look more like an ad hoc modification for optimized space hit n run combat Man if we had more of this it’d be cool, like the zaku head on the apsalus and others

[@MarxMayhem]

"Legs are just for show!" - Dra-C pilots, probably

[@ihatecabbage7270]

Drac actually have inferior performance to conventional mobile suit due to NOT having legs and thus have no AMBAC system which allow maneuverability. The only reason ZEON still use them is largely due to being there, it's available and when you have machines like these, someone can pilot it, is also fast, but highly predicatable fast, means other mobile suit can easily track and lead shot it. If your in a DraC, your life expectancy has just dramatically decreased to less than even a GM. Which is why I love them, DraC is so unusual as a mobile suit.

[@anzaca1]

These are my fav Kakarot videos.

[@PaladinodoCerradooficial]

That unit who can transport you to a ISEKAI.

[@-Navy117]

YEEESSSSSS A DÉVELOPMENT HISTORY VIDEO!!!!

[@teachme5334]

Babe wake up, the ñew development history video just dropped

[@Plaprad]

Why does the Dra-C suddenly remind me of the old C-130's I used to work? "Why's the hydraulic system backwards?" "We took it from a P-3." But for the thrusters, I have a crazy theory. The Gattle would have to have smaller thrusters for maneuvering that were probably never put on the models or animated. If you don't have the motors for the legs to use AMBAC, stick a bunch of smaller thrusters at the end to move the legs around to "simulate" an AMBAC system. KInda like how older Boeing aircraft didn't use big actuators to move the flight controls. They just used a smaller actuator on a smaller flight control on the bigger one to move it around. They could actually save some fuel since being that far from the center of mass, small "squirts" from them could be used to direct the thing on long flights instead of the bigger ones. Not to mention all the fuel pumps, valves, and other systems for the fuel tanks could also come from a Gattle.

[@greemu]

Man you're the GOAT for posting these vids❤

[@ACFoxeye]

I've seen some pretty wild Dra-C builds from Japanese and Southeast Asian modelers. Give them a look if you don't have anything to do later today.

[@teslashark]

There's even a Dra-Dom

[@rexlumontad5644]

0:44 Gobble reminds me of the V Wing fighter from Star Wars The Clone Wars.

[@armin8306]

For a long time I've always wanted a Dra-C, I finally managed to find a built one. It's just a neat design even if it's a terrible mobile suit.

[@andrejg4136]

I fully agree. Killer aesthetics but limited functionality.

[@charjl96]

I love these development history vids

[@TokyoFilthy]

unexpected development history, but a very welcome one, hope bandai reprints the dra-c and the custom soon

[@versebuchanan512]

So it's basically like that time in Armored Core 2 when I accidentally sold the legs I intended to use and had to slap a hovertank bottom on my AC for a couple missions.

[@pippupaladin]

I always loved using the Dra-C in Encounters in Space, it's funny to imagine an ace Dra-C unit.

[@ryanmusic4542]

Genuinely, i would love to see a full on video going over the various different improvised and heavily customized mobile suits used by the Zeon remnants

[@thechangamire3495]

Aaah, Dra-C, my beloeved. I'll always love you.

[@matthewschuchardt684]

The Dra-c is one of my favorite suits :)

[@ergoelke]

this made my day. thank you very much.

[@dynomight3855]

I love the Dra-C's vulcan arm it makes me think of Samus's arm cannon. If only it was a higher caliber to be more effective against mobile suits

[@plussum3255]

Woudlve liked to see Gobbles and other non-ms machines used in action but I can understand why we dont see them as much. 8:45 oh god its so beautiful God the dra-c is such a beautiful suit. Wouldve loved to have seen it in effective use. Thanks for the researched video!!!

[@starpilot101]

Now I need to see an FF-S3 Saberfish dogfight a Gobble. The Origin, 08th MS team and MS IGLOO got me hooked on non-MS grunt vehicle fights.

[@thecheese4255]

Man, I really like the Dra-C It’s a utilitarian design that is a no nonsense assault MS. This thing is laughably overpowered IMO in the PS2 Encounters in Space game. Cool to see some love for this design!

[@keirgomcginlay2044]

I do enjoy learning about the non-MS stuff.

[@mix-up9003]

Nice to finally see a video on the Dra-C, I really did love the design back then.

[@Lambda3141]

I love the Dra-C, thanks for this development video!

[@emi.mp4]

i don't remember the dra-c in 0083 AT ALL. so many great designs in that series. guess it's time for a rewatch!

[@lordofalltime]

I'd love to hear about the development of the Union Flag line

[@Sk3Let0r89]

Only earthnoids need legs

[@alfazagato1455]

I always thought the Dra-C was neat when I saw it in this little tech manual I had years ago. I imagine the HG isn't too bad, given there's not a lot to be bad. Sadly, the only 1/100 Dra-C is a B-Club conversion for the MG Zaku II F2. Sounds like more project than I really care for.

[@dragonkingzippo]

The leg joint that attaches to the torso falls apart but otherwise pretty solid and it's one of the rare ones that comes with a base

[@TheSillyDragonfly]

Can we get a gouf or dom development history?

[@pouse4]

Always a fan of new suits made with a close to zero budget.

[@ILEFTCAPS0N]

When I was a kid, I used to think the Dra-C was just a Kämpfer meant for space.

[@teslashark]

The beam saber is one half of a naginata!

[@rolandjaycutter3504]

I like the thunderbolt version of the Gattle, a good support unit for the Living Dead Division.

[@bossbingus7457]

Just built the Dra-C Unicron ver not too long ago!

[@26th_Primarch]

I kinda like the Dra-C and if I was a pilot that got ahold of one, the first thing that I would do is replace those "legs" it originally had with a pair "borrowed" from a high mobility type Zaku or Kampfer if I got really lucky

[@Zeromaru42]

Well to be fair, the Booster Legs are easier to service and are part of what gives it the mobility that makes it a good Flying Coffin so I'd probably keep them. If it works in GBO2 and it's way easier to service I'd rather have that than legs that'd arguably slow me down more. Instead, I'd honestly rather take more sensors and better weapons. Like I'm still gonna just die in one hit either way. At least if I could get like a Zudah Sniper Rifle and some decent sensors with some jet black 'Space Camo' I could use it as a hit and run Sniper Stealth Unit that can as a last resort become one Hell of a Glass Speedster in close range.

[@Astronopolis]

The legs are fuel tanks as well, youd lose alot of range without them

[@26th_Primarch]

@@Astronopolis those tanks could be moved on to the backpack and can be ditched if necessary.

[@26th_Primarch]

@@Zeromaru42 hence why I specified the high-mobility type legs or the Kampfer's, they're made for quick movement and I'd rather have those legs and not need them instead of not having them when I'd need them.

[@wuyiwolf2660]

Dra C in PS2 Encounters in Space " oh an enemy ship BRRRRRTTT BRRRRRTTT*

[@НикитаПыко]

Really love Dra-c design. Also my choice for low lvl space PVP in GBO2

[@TheGelgoogGuy]

This video was so good I subscribed to your patreaon - great content, and perfect to watch/listen to when I'm building gunpla. But I gotta ask, the whole Zeon/Axis/MarsZeon/That Full Frontal Guy is dying to know when you're going to do a Gelgoog Development History? The high mobility Zaku Video has always made me just wanting to know how deep you're going to go down the Goog hole on that one and what new variants you may have uncovered. (I'm also building Cima's Gelgoog right now - and I may be indirectly responsible for the shortage of HGUC Gelgoog Marine kits, I have 8 :P)

[@rexlumontad5644]

0:04 Zeon got Minovsky Particles that scrambled communications, radar and targeting systems which forced Federation Fleet to try shoot down Zakus the old fashioned WW2 way.

[@victoriazero8869]

Fuel tanks are about the easiest part that can be manufactured even with limited resources. So the Dra-C legs could be very well nothing more than pressurized steel tank. I mean, sometimes they even make it disposable. As for why the Dra-C legs are that long, the design gives high leverage as AMBAC unit despite low overall mass compared to proper MS legs.

[@40letranhuutin68]

This simplified legs for Dra-C is cheaper and can still work properly like normal legs in space . But when we think more about it, the mobile suit from the start had been designed for multi- environment combat and if we seperate the Zaku II into 2 kind , one for ground which is just normal , one for space which use the Dra-C legs, it may cause complex in manufacturing faction . This problem not only can’t solve the price of manufacturing mobile suit but can also pressure more on logistics.

[@faizizz4062]

What's that mobile suit @6:12?

[@shauqiharris2772]

Dra-C is very underrated.

[@Yacovo]

I don't need no legs. Thanks for the video.

[@TheBattleMaster100]

Best way to use the Dra-C is for hit and run tactics.

[@jinwu9423]

Missed opportunity to do a spinoff game called, "Mobile Suit Gundam: Gattle Operations"

[@PyroKitsuna11]

I have like the reg, custom and heavy on gbo2

[@bagea]

for a while i wondered why the sleeves dra-c was pink, now it makes sense, if it was borrowed from axis its color scheme matches that of the gaza-c

[@twelfthknight]

In retrospect the Dra-C very well could've functioned in the way UAVs/drones are being used now in the real world. Although they have to be manned, which is certainly a relative drawback. Still, if it can fly for hours, carry decent surveillance equipment, and costs peanuts... that's just objectively good value to any military.

[@Dragore94123]

I really wanna see you do a development history for the gundam in the 00 universe

[@davegravel882]

Blaah!! Please do the Efreet or the maybe the Doven wolf and silver bullet !!

[@Jociaoftrades]

Would like to see a video of all the Amazing MS that the Mejin has made.

[@stormtrippn3402]

Nice video Kakarot MkV/Doven wolf/Silver bullet development when?

[@ReiAyanami8]

LOL! You gotta love the logic of Mecha Media. Make a mech as simple as possible without the overly complicated engineering...and it becomes as ineffective as it can be. 🤣

[@RRVCrinale]

For a space only mobile weapon, the Dra-C makes me wonder: wouldn't it be economical to treat the legs of a space use suit as wing binders, then supplement them with an extra set on the backpack? If you really had to have it walk briefly, you could just reinforce the "leg" binders but otherwise wouldn't have to make them so beefy for a mobile suit designed purely for operation in space or, at most, right outside a colony.

[@HereticalKitsune]

Yay, more Gundam lore!

[@sith2u]

Great video on a great design, but i’m still sad no love shown for the Thunderbolt ver Gattle, which starred in a 3-chapter vignette in the Thunderbolt Gaiden manga.

[@nightwolfnordberg9476]

Dra-c looks so cool

[@FUGxMICHI]

I love these development history Videos. I always wondered about Katoki redesigns. Are Katoki always just redesigns/Ver Ka's or do they get retconned and accepted to the canon?

[@caselleknoxiv589]

Gattle and Zaku 2 F2 made a baby. Dra-C, if it works it works.

[@ZROSTARS]

I always thought it was a Mini Kampfer

[@viperson9818]

Honestly as something that was built using parts from OYW it holds its own pretty well. Heck most of the sleeves mobile suits are outdated but still rock against modern MS.

[@darkfent]

I miss how the mobile suits during Z are like B, C, and whatever name they thought of in mythology

[@PSYCOMMUnist]

Dra-Cs are never shown killing anything in the shows for metanarrative reasons where they don't want to show a mech losing to a spacecraft. Hop on GBO2 space and see how you like fighting one. The idea of a Loto killing an upgraded one in space is a joke.

[@arsarma1808]

The Dra-C is an outdated OYW tech machine that was rightfully destroyed by a modern, miniaturized mobile suit. Mini mobile suits are the way of the future, and Loto was ahead of the times. In F-91, a lot of Jegans are destroyed by mini mobile suits as well.

[@nedinnis6752]

Can't agree since GBO2 takes liberties when it comes to MS performance. GMs are supposed to be way better than Zakus and on par with Doms, Gundams should be invincible against Zaku machine guns, etc. And like the other guy said, Dra C's are outdated just like the GM II. The Loto is one of the latest UC models and puts the power of a mobile suit in a smaller, stealthier package. It's like using a new AA gun to destroy upgraded WW2 German planes, it's a total mismatch.

[@557deadpool]

You really used GBO2 for reference 😂

[@reeseolsen4052]

Say what you will about the Dra-C line's performance in canon but getting a group together in GBO2 for a 6V6 where you only use either the Dra-C, Dra-C Custom or Dra-C Kai (Heavy) can be a pretty entertaining stupid fun screw around match.

[@shirosaki97]

I mean, for what is literally a flying coffin put together with super glue, the Dra-C is one of the most amazing mobile suits in existance, something that should've fell apart in 5 seconds managed to see service for what? 13 years? Half of a Zaku with a Gattle's thrusters and an external power plant made a beam weapon capable high speed hit and run unit. Genuinely if these things were deployed in the One Year War I could see them being an actual menace to deal with, at least early on.

[@sanguiniusonvacation1803]

The DRA-C could be using internal fuel tanks stacked together and then sheathed in a new hull for the legs

[@Satobraze-mw1xv]

The mystery of the MS-20.

[@personal9372]

Answer me this question, how does the Dra-C Custom heavy weaponry cause it to lose maneuverability when they are used primarily in zero gravity space.

[@SparkRattle]

The Dra-C's legs.... Kinda resemble the sturm booster of the Hazel 2, doesn't it...?

[@sablevo]

Given the legs are primarily fuel tanks, I always thought they were taken from Gelgoogs, either the Jager or Marine Commander.

[@ajinugroho663]

More grunt unit !! Yeaah

[@thebackcorner1427]

is it just me, or does the Dra-C's head look like the gobble's canopy? Obviously they aren't the same part, but I wonder if there could be a variant that had to scavenge a head from a dom monoeye with that canopy as its only protection...

[@emperorhadrian6011]

Miss using these in gb02

[@nobleorb0189]

Day 2 of Jegan Development History

[@sim.frischh9781]

I like the Gobble´s design, it looks funny. But i never liked the Gattle. Taste is a deeply individual thing, i guess. However getting upgraded to a quasi-MS, that´s an interesting step to take.

[@robertdrexel2043]

Wasn't there a Gattle variant that also supposed to work alongside a mobile suit? Mainly, serving as a mean to swap out a mobile suit's pilot? Wait. Was that from Thunderbolt???

[@alextijerina2271]

Can you do the development of the Gouf?

[@delllee4915]

Still waiting for the Development History for the Danazine, and the Mobile Suits that were its predecessorz

[@cjv-x10a4]

I imagine it would be quite embarrassing if the the pilot of Dra-C Custom Heavy tried blocking shots with it's shield, BEFORE the Sturm Faust are used.😅

[@A_Simple_Zock]

When you wanted reactive armor but the designer gave you sturmfausts instead

[@nexo42069]

Dra-c could've helped zeon on ground forces if they could produce it at the time

[@riptide1ful]

When are we going to get the Dom?

[@baconcommando2454]

6:21 Any idea what that mobile suit in the center is?

[@kakarot197]

The YMS-23C Ghoul

[@dynomight3855]

The Ghoul is a pretty cool ground combat mobile suit taking aspects of the Gyan's weapon shield such as internal missile launchers as well as having built in beam blades for cqc making it highly adaptable

[@derekwilson7990]

Gelgoog development one day

[@andrewlance01]

My isekai would be landing in the gundam UC timeline so I'll be fine

[@bigalzo5311]

BO2, it murders everything, I wish it has higher points nothing has that extreme reach

[@loop2743]

Dom and Gouf development history?

[@rue-mell5856]

What happened to Dra-A and Dra-B 😂

[@ZeroDarkness-]

To bad there's no Dra-G and what happened to original Dra?

[@leonnewkirk1713]

Dra-A= Annihilated Dra-B = Blown-up