MOSTAR'S ABANDONED SNIPER TOWER

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Kara and Nate

Kara and Nate

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@ronflatter1235
@ronflatter1235 5 жыл бұрын
How great is Charlie? I lived three years in Australia, and I know so many people who are as fun-loving as him. Good on you.
@jennymossa9492
@jennymossa9492 3 жыл бұрын
I was 7-10 years old during the Yugoslavia war. The news were on before the kids tv show I wanted to see each night and sometimes I got pretty traumatized seeing what the situation was like in Sarajevo and the rest of Bosnia. I felt very sad to see this but am happy also to see how life goes on and things are looking better for the people living there.
@haleydelph9017
@haleydelph9017 4 жыл бұрын
I love this! That’s what’s great about visiting less touristy places, a view like that would’ve been so crowded and cost you $30 each in a more popular destination!!
@theBeganovich
@theBeganovich 2 жыл бұрын
My home country 🇧🇦 Awesome to see how far you've come guys, there is very slight chance you'll see this comment but can't wait for stars to align to meet you guys, you've inspired us to start traveling full-time Greetings from North Carolina neighbors 👋
@WAYAWAYWithAsh
@WAYAWAYWithAsh 8 жыл бұрын
Im so excited for Mostar:) It looks stunning and the food looks so yummy and I'm so happy its cheap. We are headed to Dubrovnik, Kotor, Montenegro and Mostar this week. There are way to many amazing places to see in the world:) -Ash
@KaraandNate
@KaraandNate 8 жыл бұрын
Yes you will love it here! Make sure you go to Timalrma for a meal with Guillerma! It rained the whole time on us in Kotor - hope you have better weather! :)
@XennialTraveller
@XennialTraveller 4 жыл бұрын
As of September 2019, Sniper Tower has been cleaned up a lot. You still have to hop the wall to get in, but the rubble and trash has been cleared. Interesting place to visit, and do read up about the history of the place (and Mostar and Bosnia & Herz. in general) before you go. But what a beautiful country to visit!
@lucydixon5075
@lucydixon5075 2 жыл бұрын
This is such an old video but I wanted to see if you guys had been to Bosnia. It’s by far one of my favorite countries I’ve ever had the pleasure to visit. Next time you guys need to go to Sarajevo, the capital!! There’s so much to explore!
@lejlamujkic6238
@lejlamujkic6238 5 жыл бұрын
Where my Boso peeps at???...meee Imal’ koga iz Bosne ovdje? It’s not “short sausages” it’s ćevapi
@dragan3290
@dragan3290 5 жыл бұрын
E praviš mi zazubice😂 sad mi pite čevape da jedem!
@lejlamujkic6238
@lejlamujkic6238 5 жыл бұрын
edmond ugljesa hahahha
@dragan3290
@dragan3290 5 жыл бұрын
A gledam film kad je počo i vidim kafu a ja isto pijem kafu!😂
@mon5360
@mon5360 5 жыл бұрын
Holla!
@sandramesic1267
@sandramesic1267 5 жыл бұрын
Samo moli da mu auto u redu hahaha boze
@bayleemancuso1636
@bayleemancuso1636 4 жыл бұрын
My husband and I ate at that resultant a few years ago and we still talk about it! It was delicious and only $5 each for a full meal and a beer. We had food leftover and the waitress packed it all up for us and gave us a pile of free bread to eat with it later. It made our day!
@graciepuppy7368
@graciepuppy7368 6 жыл бұрын
Kara has gotten so good on her skateboard
@metalux1971
@metalux1971 5 жыл бұрын
3:58 and the lady is one off the niced woman i ever med. Welcome to the Balkan. we are not ritch, but always a warm welcome.
@DzekoVelez
@DzekoVelez 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! The border guard you went by and went back is my cousin ahahahaha small world
@DzekoVelez
@DzekoVelez 5 жыл бұрын
@Scouse Macca im not making things up. im from bosnia, his name is emil.
@ad0stubee
@ad0stubee 5 жыл бұрын
He is my cousin to! Mili! Hahah.
@36paris
@36paris 5 жыл бұрын
Wtf? Are you both related? That’s weird.
@ad0stubee
@ad0stubee 5 жыл бұрын
@@36paris Seems so. Not sure who this guy commenting is. But seems we have the same cousin. What a coincidence.
@aminacutahija9476
@aminacutahija9476 5 жыл бұрын
no it’s just small bosnia 😂
@_LostAndFound_
@_LostAndFound_ 3 жыл бұрын
8:14 i agree with the blue graffiti !!
@metalux1971
@metalux1971 2 жыл бұрын
Bosnia is just a great underrated country, the people, nature and food is great, even the bordercontrol guys are friendly
@36paris
@36paris 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love you guys all together! I think my fave vlogs are when you have various friends accompanying you.
@36paris
@36paris 5 жыл бұрын
But where’s Gel?
@marissastout2147
@marissastout2147 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah - I was wondering that too. What happened to Gel?
@liangalliard161
@liangalliard161 8 жыл бұрын
I love your vlogs Kara and Nate! The two of you give us a lot of inspiration for our own vlogs, Thanks! Greetz Rick
@gbenga1338
@gbenga1338 8 жыл бұрын
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE DRONE!!! The pictures of these cities with a drone would be awesome.
@yatesmsw
@yatesmsw 5 жыл бұрын
Truly the word is small, saw a South Park reference in the graffiti there. Thank you for brightening my dull work days Kara and Nate.
@erinraecowin
@erinraecowin 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, the Charlie Chronicles are fantastic. Aussies are crazy.
@trishguajardo
@trishguajardo 5 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the only places in the world where the food comes to you & looks just like the picture! So yummy looking!
@russh3334
@russh3334 2 жыл бұрын
Wow you videos have come such a long way! I love you and your channel has grown! You guys are just quality!!
@stephaniegruenberg7044
@stephaniegruenberg7044 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool one of your followers got to meet you! Looks like a pretty cool city (love the cobblestone type streets), plus that bridge/river is definitely gorgeous!
@cecileward6672
@cecileward6672 6 жыл бұрын
1:23 I love that song
@annavoytenko
@annavoytenko 3 жыл бұрын
Please tell the name. It sounds like Lumineers, but I can't figure out the song.
@cecileward6672
@cecileward6672 3 жыл бұрын
@@annavoytenko it’s Ophelia by The Lumineers
@sarahholzweber6181
@sarahholzweber6181 3 жыл бұрын
i love watching your old videos! please reupload the vlog from vienna, it´s my hometown and i would love to see you in my city
@aminacutahija9476
@aminacutahija9476 5 жыл бұрын
“mow-star” i’m dead 😂😂
@dorisjazzdominguez2607
@dorisjazzdominguez2607 4 жыл бұрын
Is December 07.2020, am I have been watching y’all videos since a couple months, yalll are amazing 💕 love the video I know they old ones but am watching from y’all 1st video since y’all started to the most recent 💕
@ilikeiguanas.2337
@ilikeiguanas.2337 4 жыл бұрын
OMG I went to Mostar last year and stayed at that hostel!!!
@maryeckert9936
@maryeckert9936 8 жыл бұрын
You should use a Fuji XP90 while using the skateboards. It is water proof and shock resistant. Mine survived my husband on our last vacation. He has a tendency to ruin cameras when we travel (dropped one in my beer at a baseball game, accidentally threw one in the ocean, dropped one off a cliff, etc...).
@KaraandNate
@KaraandNate 8 жыл бұрын
+Mary Eckert sorry to hear of all the camera deaths! The "etc" really made me laugh though! We should look into that for sure - thanks!
@FireCracker3240
@FireCracker3240 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a little surprised at how easy it was for you to enter Bosnia and Herzegovina. Not sure why I thought it would be more time consuming, but I did.
@xxbosniangirlxx2219
@xxbosniangirlxx2219 8 жыл бұрын
my hometown ♥
@imapilotwhereever4135
@imapilotwhereever4135 4 жыл бұрын
1:22 ophelia from the LUMINEERS YAYYYYYYYY
@94vrcommodore
@94vrcommodore 8 жыл бұрын
Such beautiful scenery. Loving these Vlogs about Eastern Europe :)
@admirmehic8552
@admirmehic8552 8 жыл бұрын
Bosnia isn't exactly in Eastern Europe. We are southerners :D
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 5 жыл бұрын
They're about 1000 km's away from eastern Europe lol.
@cheesecracker835
@cheesecracker835 4 жыл бұрын
Bosnia is South Europe
@heather3419
@heather3419 3 жыл бұрын
Lol @ the map blooper 😂
@jimgreen9059
@jimgreen9059 7 жыл бұрын
Bosnia & Herzegovina = BAHZ-knee-uh and hurts-uh-go-VEE-nuh
@niure86
@niure86 5 жыл бұрын
It's a great town! I also eat at TimaIrma, twice, when I was there some weeks ago, best food!
@RankoMiletin
@RankoMiletin 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Bosnia! I hope u guys have a lot of fun! U should come to visit Serbia also! U will be same warmly welcomed!
@amelialeila9289
@amelialeila9289 3 жыл бұрын
This was badass
@swtkramel13
@swtkramel13 6 жыл бұрын
The way that bank looks is like the way all Horror/ghost movies starts lol
@mandyferguson3634
@mandyferguson3634 5 жыл бұрын
11:57 I’m dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@atko1984
@atko1984 4 жыл бұрын
Hej Kara and Nate First off all love your video's. Have been watching them for lake 24 hours. But I noticed you have been i Bosnian and Hercegovina in Mostar. You should have visited the capital city of Sarajevo. Maybe next time. Sarajevo is where west meets east. Best regards Adis
@phlpns314jlf
@phlpns314jlf 5 жыл бұрын
Nate... Quit skateboarding with the camera! Your track record is not good!
@hollymaffia7352
@hollymaffia7352 2 жыл бұрын
Charlies so fun!
@jschro124
@jschro124 8 жыл бұрын
Definitely itching to see Mostar! It is a hidden gem for sure. Eastern Europe is so amazing and unique! You're going to love it!! Hope you see more of it soon (and eat good Serbian food and beer with me in Belgrade! ;) ) awesome vlog guys!!
@KaraandNate
@KaraandNate 8 жыл бұрын
We are loving Eastern Europe!!! Belgrade sounds great ;)
@tonypavko1968
@tonypavko1968 7 жыл бұрын
Kara and Nate just be aware of the crime gangs
@Slashplite
@Slashplite 7 жыл бұрын
It's southern Europe. Eastern Europe is Romania, Bulgaria, Moldova, Belarus, Russia and Ukraine.
@adamamerable
@adamamerable 6 жыл бұрын
yeah it's Slavic but its south-eastern europe
@tobias.3335
@tobias.3335 6 жыл бұрын
I just was in mostar. Honestly, one of my top 3 favourite cities on earth! Everyone should go at least once. The history, architecture, food, people, geography, etc. is truly stunning, and the city has recovered beautifully. Truly would recommend! ❤🇧🇦❤
@willykare4619
@willykare4619 8 жыл бұрын
aaaawwweeesome once again guys. Love!
@kristiegillin9077
@kristiegillin9077 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the matchy matchy shirts
@donstravelsandrants.
@donstravelsandrants. 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing 👌
@PeriscopeAndPen
@PeriscopeAndPen 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! This is exactly the kind of random stuff we mix into our travels too. Badass, thanks for sharing.
@MackeyFamAdventures
@MackeyFamAdventures 8 жыл бұрын
So who drinks black coffee, and who drinks coffee with cream?! :) Those sandwiches you guys eat look amazing too! Another great Vlog :)
@KaraandNate
@KaraandNate 8 жыл бұрын
Nate ALWAYS has his black... I sneak cream every once in awhile ;)
@MackeyFamAdventures
@MackeyFamAdventures 8 жыл бұрын
Ah! That's what I figured. We are the same way. Randall ALWAYS has his black, but I ALWAYS have mine with cream. It's a problem on all our travels. I need to stop being so picky ;)
@Fabio-Galante
@Fabio-Galante 8 жыл бұрын
For the love of GOD , Mostar is in Herzegovina , correct that please...
@Bosniak100
@Bosniak100 8 жыл бұрын
Herzegovina, as a part of Bosnian kingdom, as duchy of Bosnia, was named as it by the name of title Herzog (Herceg) of Great BOSNIAN duke (Herceg) S.Kosaca. Bosnian duke - Bosnian land = BOSNIA. Austrian occupier, fulfilling the wishes of catholic traitors, put the name Herzegovina to the historical name of our country which is BOSNIA creating so one ridiculous name of the country. Herzegowina is JUST A PART OF BOSNIA!!
@Fabio-Galante
@Fabio-Galante 8 жыл бұрын
Bosniak100 Okay if you go to whole history , shouldnt we just call it Croatia :) ;)
@theavalonlife7140
@theavalonlife7140 4 жыл бұрын
Love how the sniper tower thing says “trump sucks” 🤣
@theavalonlife7140
@theavalonlife7140 4 жыл бұрын
Neil O. cool 👌🏼
@ethanbutler4098
@ethanbutler4098 4 жыл бұрын
Neil O. meaningless insults are so helpful. hope you feel better lol
@theavalonlife7140
@theavalonlife7140 4 жыл бұрын
Neil O. Also, I’m 14 and your probably a 30 year old racist. I wouldn’t be commenting because I know the BLM and anti-Trump supporters have my back 😁 You can give me any insult and it won’t faze me.
@theavalonlife7140
@theavalonlife7140 4 жыл бұрын
Petar Ticinovic havent heard it, what is it?
@malion8374
@malion8374 4 жыл бұрын
TRUMP2020 from Bosnia
@thevlogshowchannel4068
@thevlogshowchannel4068 8 жыл бұрын
hi I just subscribe to your video love it from Singapore
@lockguy2652
@lockguy2652 4 жыл бұрын
breaking news story... Three backpackers go missing while walking through creepy old building never to be seen or heard from again...
@ottovonneumann4018
@ottovonneumann4018 3 жыл бұрын
I was in Mostar before 3 years. A very nice croatian city. After Mostar I have visited Neum and Dubrovnik. The last one was breathtaking. Croatia is one of the most beautiful countries in the world. Greetings from Germany.
@jazz1ba
@jazz1ba 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t even know whats the name of the country you’ve been in. It is not a croatian city nor Croatia.
@thekupus1
@thekupus1 3 жыл бұрын
Otto, Mostar is a Bosnian city.
@johnnolewajka1639
@johnnolewajka1639 8 жыл бұрын
Good driving skills, Nate!!!!
@gudfaderncc
@gudfaderncc 8 жыл бұрын
Somdays you do really GOOD vlogs!👍😁
@wildatheart7575
@wildatheart7575 8 жыл бұрын
Hello Kara & Nate, another amazing Vlog. Keep Vlogging =)
@Mloofylicious
@Mloofylicious 4 жыл бұрын
Girls, it's a bank building, not a sniper tower, there were never any there.
@aleksasantic8568
@aleksasantic8568 4 жыл бұрын
Dont lie
@linnea9017
@linnea9017 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing situ's of war is scary and interesting.
@RealSpaceHobo
@RealSpaceHobo 8 жыл бұрын
Wow - Mostar......a legendary place.....that CR7 impression was awesome too.....:-)
@metalux1971
@metalux1971 5 жыл бұрын
2:51 funny, this kint off 4X4 truck camper, i also saw a lot at this border when i crossed it in 2017.
@dollfacekillah
@dollfacekillah 4 жыл бұрын
What WiFi hotspot do you use? I’m in the market for one as my husband and I will be taking some upcoming international trips. Can you make a video on this along with other money saving travel tips? Thanks in advance!
@purespirit9
@purespirit9 8 жыл бұрын
Hiya, be careful you all. 👍💖
@Sem4188
@Sem4188 8 жыл бұрын
Nate makes me feel better about myself and how many times I drop my camera. I'm now only allowed to use the tough camera.
@aldinkovacevic6770
@aldinkovacevic6770 6 жыл бұрын
Next time you are at mostar i recomend to taste Čevapi and Burek its Delicious.
@redaradi1767
@redaradi1767 8 жыл бұрын
it's an old bank
@testcardsandmore1231
@testcardsandmore1231 5 жыл бұрын
The graffiti at 8:36 with the heart... Who wrote that and what language is it? Because if it's Swedish I find it hilarious.
@emu85
@emu85 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, I was thinking the same thing!
@jerrycratsenberg989
@jerrycratsenberg989 4 жыл бұрын
Your "friend", Charlie, brings out the very worst in Nate. Be careful, he shows no respect for anyone.
@TheDispleasedCow
@TheDispleasedCow 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, he may come off as "fun-loving", but actually seems like a proper douche to me.
@yahlifenigstein580
@yahlifenigstein580 4 жыл бұрын
Every time you guys said Mostar I heard Mozart 😂
@tracyramos9863
@tracyramos9863 5 жыл бұрын
We had lots of cevappi in Croatia it is delicious and I have even attempted to make it with pretty good results.
@eldoeldon8131
@eldoeldon8131 5 жыл бұрын
In Croatia you eat sea food, in Bosnia you eat ćevapi and burek
@metalux1971
@metalux1971 5 жыл бұрын
@@eldoeldon8131 and Bosian Sahan, best best food of Bosnia.
@xinaxran
@xinaxran 6 жыл бұрын
A great phrase: "I have no idea how to get to Bosnia."
@liuwayne9686
@liuwayne9686 5 жыл бұрын
So where is the abandoned bank located? Street name? I couldn't find it on the map so
@invincible_and_legendary
@invincible_and_legendary 4 жыл бұрын
The sniper nest was planned to be a bank before the war.
@waynesalisbury56
@waynesalisbury56 8 жыл бұрын
Great to see some 'urbex' in the vlog!
@raisingskullzotit
@raisingskullzotit 5 жыл бұрын
im from bosnia or well my dad is and i hav been almost every where there
@Laney784312
@Laney784312 5 жыл бұрын
I was literally there like 5 months ago because my dad is living there
@criskity
@criskity 8 жыл бұрын
I loved the meaty meals in Mostar!
@KaraandNate
@KaraandNate 8 жыл бұрын
SO delish!
@nickyG1212
@nickyG1212 6 жыл бұрын
“Trump Sucks” graffiti in Herzegovina 👍🏽
@phlpns314jlf
@phlpns314jlf 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they climbed there on purpose.
@PeriscopeAndPen
@PeriscopeAndPen 5 жыл бұрын
The same accurate sentiment is all through the ruin bars in Budapest and plenty of the same in Krakow. People in that part of the world have seen & heard this behavioral pattern and know exactly where it leads. As the saying goes: “Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it.“
@Toulkun
@Toulkun 5 жыл бұрын
@Helmholtz Everything you listed was happening before Trumps fiscal year.
@dragan3290
@dragan3290 5 жыл бұрын
Šta te briga za Trump? Budalla jedna! Ove je istorija!
@derbigpr500
@derbigpr500 5 жыл бұрын
@Helmholtz "Economy is boosting" - temporarily because of certain moves that will ruin it long term "low unemployment" - read above "no more billions of dollars lost in trade deals" - Yep, only billions of dollars lost because factories that produced stuff next to nothing in China will now produce things in other countries instead for far more money, reducing the profits those companies will make, reducing their ability to pay the workers as much, etc. Another long term bad move used for temporary boosts. "North Korea and Iran are scared of strong man Trump" - I can assure you nobody is scared of Trump. Also, everything you named could have been achieved by millions of other presidents as well, who wouldn't act like an ass otherwise.
@meineomakenntdieroten
@meineomakenntdieroten 6 жыл бұрын
2:26 Believe me, it happened to others too :D
@ImportedFromSerbia
@ImportedFromSerbia 5 жыл бұрын
You are an officially in Hercegovina. 👍 Have I caught a glimpse of Čapljina, the bridge over river of Neretva? (3:30)
@pivke22
@pivke22 3 жыл бұрын
Just to say Mostar is in HERZEGOVINA not in BOSINA
@hilarymoloney1711
@hilarymoloney1711 Жыл бұрын
"The views are incredible". That's what the snipers thought too. :(
@sandratessem9980
@sandratessem9980 2 жыл бұрын
We were in Mostar 1987 before the war
@eldoeldon8131
@eldoeldon8131 5 жыл бұрын
Visit Sarajevo! It is great!
@yangerek78
@yangerek78 8 жыл бұрын
almost similar resemblence to that famous star. awesome
@sykoelf
@sykoelf 6 жыл бұрын
Kara I have those same exact Birkenstock’s and I live in mine too lol
@nore7994
@nore7994 3 жыл бұрын
If only they knew that security camera on the bank does not work
@sloangrace4361
@sloangrace4361 8 жыл бұрын
what is the difference between a hostel and a hotel ? Also when was the war and do you know anymore about it?💓
@mnauno
@mnauno 7 жыл бұрын
The war happened because in Bosnia there live serbs croats and muslims. After Tito (leader of Yugoslavia) died all ethnics began to hate each other and they wanted to have their own country.
@ImportedFromSerbia
@ImportedFromSerbia 5 жыл бұрын
Arresting, cops..... just hand him 20 euros and he will look other way, never seen you in his life he will swear.😁😁😁😁
@gaamatsu4dewin
@gaamatsu4dewin 5 жыл бұрын
I love the graffiti: Drugs are bad, 'mkay?
@mkaybye4917
@mkaybye4917 5 жыл бұрын
I did that one 😅
@kokolo-q5y
@kokolo-q5y 3 жыл бұрын
@@mkaybye4917 did u actually?? no way bro it catches my eye every time i go there lmaoooo
@edisalicusic5031
@edisalicusic5031 5 жыл бұрын
My parents are from Mostar
@ines_uk
@ines_uk 6 жыл бұрын
I read quite a few hateful comments between Bosnia’s Muslims and Christians in here that I wonder is the relationship still that bad between the two after the war? If a muslim tourist comes to see Herzegovina, is he/she treated ok or looked down upon? Coz judging by comments there is still so much hate. :(
@johnmann6895
@johnmann6895 6 жыл бұрын
There are lots of Muslims there
@denisz2274
@denisz2274 6 жыл бұрын
Bosnian people are some of the most friendly people on the planet, especially the Muslims. They will be delighted you de visiting their country.
@MammaBear.
@MammaBear. 7 жыл бұрын
OMG! Did Charlie actually go through that nice lady's closet? LMAO!
@jake_playz4651
@jake_playz4651 7 жыл бұрын
ahh i love my life in bosnia
@metalux1971
@metalux1971 5 жыл бұрын
haha 8:16 you climb over a wall. the front of the building, you just walk in without climbing
@enarozic8532
@enarozic8532 5 жыл бұрын
metalux1971 it is blocked
@metalux1971
@metalux1971 5 жыл бұрын
@@enarozic8532 not when i was there in the summer of 2016
@enarozic8532
@enarozic8532 5 жыл бұрын
metalux1971 u can get arrested now if u go in the sniper tower because one kid jumped and died
@metalux1971
@metalux1971 5 жыл бұрын
@@enarozic8532 since when? i was there in 2016 and could walk right in, like many others buildings. like for example the abandoned Olympics 1984 Hotel at mount Igman
@enarozic8532
@enarozic8532 5 жыл бұрын
metalux1971 well that was in 2016, i live here and i know very well that i could get arrested if i go in, that place is full of left over drugs and u could actually die. in 2018 a boy jumped and since then u could get arrested if u go in. just letting u know because i live here
@barefootblonde78
@barefootblonde78 4 жыл бұрын
"just over 20 years ago" :D
@ImportedFromSerbia
@ImportedFromSerbia 5 жыл бұрын
I would pay triple price for that plate of food.
@kuljitsingh4911
@kuljitsingh4911 5 жыл бұрын
Love you dear
@evelyngarcia4551
@evelyngarcia4551 6 жыл бұрын
Your friend is hysterical!
@Oicacicamica
@Oicacicamica 8 жыл бұрын
Omg you guys are in bosniaaaaaaa
@lejlamujkic6238
@lejlamujkic6238 5 жыл бұрын
Luna Mioč 94 hajd još je isto hahah ko da oni znaju o Bosni išta
@rileeeeeeee2862
@rileeeeeeee2862 5 жыл бұрын
Come to Sarajevo u are welcome
@alimae1651
@alimae1651 Жыл бұрын
I love the "Trump sucks" graffiti on the wall of the sniper tower. It's 2023 and it's still true. 😂
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