Katatenage one of the real ways that makes this technique so effective - TenShin Aikido

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ROGUE WARRIORS TV

ROGUE WARRIORS TV

7 жыл бұрын

This video is how to do aikido using katatenage. Here lenny sly sensei of the #roguewarriors training compound teaches us how to do katatenage off of a yokomenuchi attack. First sly sensei as always shows us proper attack like in every other video. Then sensei shows us how to get into position using lenny sly aikido to execute a katatenage. Sly sensei also shows us different ways of doing this technique within his demonstration. Lenny sly aikido is truly showing us a whole new perspective on how to do tenshin aikido. Sly sensei is #takingaikidoback and this is just another example of how he is doing so.
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@toybuns775
@toybuns775 7 жыл бұрын
I've never met Lenny but its obvious he is very good at what he does and its awesome that he wants to share it with others. I also have a gut feeling that on a personal level, hes probably a hell of a nice guy and a loyal friend. Thanks for sharing your knowledge sensei!!
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13 7 жыл бұрын
Tony Burnett Tony that is exactly my mission, to share my passion for aikido with the world and KZbin has allowed me to do so. I can only hope that I can make a difference for the people that train in aikido. and hope that with my aikido that helps more people to have an open mind to my teachings and my life experience of how I've used it in real life. Thank you for your kind words as well. I think I'm a nice person and I'll go out of my way to help anyone unconditionally. As for being loyal... once I'm your friend I'm as loyal as it gets.... until. There it is thee until. until you show me how unloyal you are to me. then that's a whole other story. ya know. To be a bit harsh. I've NEVER fucked over anyone that didn't already have it COMING!
@masakatsudojoschoolforaiki1600
@masakatsudojoschoolforaiki1600 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting, my analyzation going backward, your finishing pin, that's how I learned to apply Kokyu Ho from Suwari waza. The arm breaker over the shoulder, as principle, yes the hand has to be thumb down with arm torqued to the outside to work, painfully effective! Our Yokomen Uchi evasion using suriage with the grab behind it I just learned by practicing your method of what I learned was Irimi, thank you for acknowledging the practical viability of hand deflections, most of my confidence came from learning these methods, and my students are eating it up and have testified how effective they are in their own real experiences, I am so grateful for your videos! I love these, I am learning so much and because I had a good foundation, I can utilize your methods, train with them, own them and share them with my students, God bless
@pedroandaverez9073
@pedroandaverez9073 Жыл бұрын
this guy is the best aikido practitioner I have seen! Real life situations applied with well thought and tested aikido techniques. Much respect and appreciation to you Lenny!
@meindertdost4507
@meindertdost4507 7 жыл бұрын
This is the real Aikido, the best there is, go on like this Sensei Sly.
@8329kelso
@8329kelso 7 жыл бұрын
Man when I never knew the name of this movement, though I often showed it to other aikidoka. Knowing it could help people should they ever have to defend themselves or break an arm. Great video Sensei Sly. Thank you.
@kylesalas193
@kylesalas193 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate what you're workin' on Sly Sensei. The more I train in Aiki, the more I still wanna see how it could actually work in a real situation. The only thing that's best next to training in a classical sense, and then just "hittin the street" to see what actually works and what doesn't, is to practice the "what-if's" in a practice setting. I believe that that only way for Aikido to truly evolve is to embrace, practice, and fully learn the classical stuff, on which a human body is always going to be a human body, yet still progress and understand how the human attitude changes with the time, and embrace the changes that come along with it, while taking the "Real World" into account. Thank you for seeing things in this manner, and for expanding upon and sharing your knowledge, for others to learn. Domo Arigatou Gozaimasu.
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13 7 жыл бұрын
Kyle Salas Thank you so much for your comment, I truly appreciate it. I will continue my journey to speak the truth and share my ever evolving approach to practical aikido.
@jordanfrankel-securityexpe8666
@jordanfrankel-securityexpe8666 7 жыл бұрын
You have a lot of patience sir! I wouldn't even address the naysayers. Fantastic video!
@wizzbangtg
@wizzbangtg 7 жыл бұрын
Lenny, I'm going to pipe up and say "Wow" that looks like it could be vissious and extremely affective. Love how the transitions flow and I can't wait to try this. I'm going to see if I can monopolize some mat time during our black belt class this week to slowly attempt. Thank you once again.
@prjgrudge
@prjgrudge 7 жыл бұрын
OMG! I wouldn't come within 20 feet of those deadly hands. I'm running away!!
@onefastrt
@onefastrt 7 жыл бұрын
Eating dinner watching this great video ! Thanks Lenny
@SPin2091
@SPin2091 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, like the transition from one technique to another, the ending with the arm pin or arm break does come from O'Sensei's study and mastering of Daito-Ryu Aikijujitsu, also like your explanation of the technique.
@mikimesser6620
@mikimesser6620 7 жыл бұрын
Great as usual,thank You again for sharing your knowledge!Lenny is the very best teacher I've ever seen.No doubt!
@sedricjohnson7689
@sedricjohnson7689 6 жыл бұрын
As a person who takes Aikido I agree with you things are not like it was years ago. If you have ever did a technique outside the Dojo it at times will not look like what you learn because your surroundings changes your moves ,you will get the results just not in dojo form. Great lesson Sensei keep up the good work.
@joem2554
@joem2554 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
@MartinShihan
@MartinShihan 6 жыл бұрын
You are real inspiration Lenny. Thanks for always showing new techniques. I really respect you and all your doing to help the Aikido world. Martin Acton Northern Ireland
@mikearnold3878
@mikearnold3878 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the break down of instruction on this video..thank you sir.
@justicierapple
@justicierapple 7 жыл бұрын
Very good practice! In Daito-Ryu Aikijujutsu, we have a similar elbow pin (we do it with Kotegaeshi).
@gr888dad
@gr888dad 7 жыл бұрын
Great video Lenny I learn from all of your videos.
@nightswatch8361
@nightswatch8361 7 жыл бұрын
As always Lenny... Technique 10/10 Rant 100/10
@criscastro7798
@criscastro7798 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson lenny keep up the great work
@1jaysmooth007
@1jaysmooth007 7 жыл бұрын
Arigato Sensei this is very informative I am a student of Nihon Goshin Aikido and I love to your vids.
@orvismaw1078
@orvismaw1078 7 жыл бұрын
Love it! Love all your video's don't stop!
@shidoin5398
@shidoin5398 7 жыл бұрын
Another Great video and explanation! Nice job bro👍👍
@chrisipacs2091
@chrisipacs2091 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Awesome technique Sir!! Clear concise description Thank you so much for sharing!! You have my Respect sir!! Always!!
@mountaingoattaichi
@mountaingoattaichi Жыл бұрын
I love Lenny's rants!!
@indychristopher1969
@indychristopher1969 7 жыл бұрын
excellent video. very very good techniques.
@masakatsudojoschoolforaiki1600
@masakatsudojoschoolforaiki1600 6 жыл бұрын
Sensei, love this one! I actually pin my Kokyu Ho that way, it makes them jump in pain with the arm pinned! I will send you a pic of one of my Sankyu Students applying that now while we are chatting about it! I will post it to your page today, notice how high his Uke jumps when he applies it, this works sooo great!
@kmiranda322
@kmiranda322 7 жыл бұрын
cool technique Lenny! that suriage evasion was looking buttery
@danielpletcher3074
@danielpletcher3074 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love what you're teaching Lenny Sir ,this is the stuff that my ASU Dojo either didn't know or wouldn't teach I remember going to class so many times in different Dojos I was thinking to myself there is no f****** way this is going to work and Sensei I have used aikido in a bar setting also not because I wanted to but because some people don't know when to quit and you can't always walk away and yes I've been hit in bars and it sucks and I will usually walk away because it's not worth the trouble that you're going to get into when you get into a Full out fight in a bar these days I don't know what it is about ukenagashi but for some reason my body does Very well with that technique and some dumb f*** went to push me a bar cuz he was being an a****** and I didn't even think about it it just kind of happened and I took him it down in kotegaesh I'm not saying this to brag I'm saying this because sometimes it happens even when you don't want it to and there's times where I've gotten hit I try to avoid that s*** I try not to go to places where that kind of s*** happens I kind of learned my lesson with that s*** a lot of times the bars are where trouble and losers Hangout I think it's okay to go out once in awhile but it's all in where you go but that being said I don't look for trouble in fact I hate flights but I can't stand it when people get in my face or put their hands on me I have used some of the Aikido that I was taught and I found out first-hand a lot of it doesn't work I am practicing your hand deflections I've gotten it to work on trained Fighters in my Taekwondo School but once again I'm going to reiterate the fact that I'm kind of a hippie at heart I don't like to fight but I think a lot of it has to do with self-respect not going to or you shouldn't let someone put their f****** hands on you my mentality is if some dumb ass in a bar puts his hands on me I'm going to make him pay for it and that's just the way it is
@Leffe49
@Leffe49 7 жыл бұрын
This was just awsome! Here it was from a Suriage deflection, Kotegashi hold and tenkan into Nikyo, Jubidori to some sort of Hiji (obi) shime to Katatenage (Not Kaitenage).....Love all of it.
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13 7 жыл бұрын
Leffe49 THANK YOU!
@robertcastillo8157
@robertcastillo8157 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@ronswafford2546
@ronswafford2546 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, always gonna be nay sayers! Just be true to yourself and thanks for sharing!
@komhskt
@komhskt 7 жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!!
@premier69
@premier69 7 жыл бұрын
you're awesome!
@yellowadminyt239
@yellowadminyt239 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@SuperScott6666
@SuperScott6666 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Lenny Sly Sensei always awesome watching you're videos keep I up bro!! And for those keyboard commands I say fuck them!!! They don't know shit!!! I for one 35 years in Aikido and 19 years doing security and living in The Bronx so yes I had to used it many! Many! Many! Times. Old ways are cool but like you I don't teach that for the real world. #takingaikidoback
@David-kh9nd
@David-kh9nd 3 жыл бұрын
These techniques are great to strengthen your arms, losing up your joints. It may not work exactly in a real fight be if apply it may work but with different results. It does not have to work exactly the way its practiced but it can work all the same which taking over your attacker. If people out there have tried this before and didn't work,maybe they are not doing it correctly.
@TheMrpatches557
@TheMrpatches557 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@ademiranda2
@ademiranda2 5 жыл бұрын
Pleez ..50% capacity? You’re being generous. At my dojo they attack at 10 or 15% capacity and wheneverI try to go at 50 or more I am told to slow down.
@rundurlukegaming7844
@rundurlukegaming7844 5 жыл бұрын
Also u are totaly correct man no one will attack me in yokoman form , but yokoman can represent a slap a big slap or a hook punch or any crapy looking hook punch aswell
@rundurlukegaming7844
@rundurlukegaming7844 5 жыл бұрын
I also like how from a koto geishi turn u went to thst nikio u just expanded my noledge
@reubencritchfield2251
@reubencritchfield2251 7 жыл бұрын
so I'm just starting to learn . and my question is the opening movement would that still work if the attacker had a knife in hand?
@puertorico2224
@puertorico2224 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as usual brother, great stuff. Do you miss being a bouncer?
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13 7 жыл бұрын
Dauragon Moralez yes I actually do miss it.
@rundurlukegaming7844
@rundurlukegaming7844 5 жыл бұрын
U are right the mojority do not use or do not put them selvs in a sutiuation but let me make that clear that this doesnt mean the the small mojority does not , u are right but clearing that up fornother people
@rundurlukegaming7844
@rundurlukegaming7844 5 жыл бұрын
I really like that u did mention at 8:30 ish that techniques work and its not fake , and ofc it doesnt look lile class room technique, heres what my sebsei told me , in the street u have to use aikedo or fight like the street , u cant be elegant soft or smooth like we train if so ud be broken to bones . Wich i find reltivly true , and so are u since u bith saying the same thing but the sentence is in a diffrent way but same concept
@mathewtillman6729
@mathewtillman6729 6 жыл бұрын
FWIW, I even appreciated the little lecture.
@ericmuserallo8733
@ericmuserallo8733 7 жыл бұрын
Lenny, so today in class I said something to my instructor about the hand deflections that you have shown. He's aware oh who you are, I guess where I'm trying to go with this long paragraph is can I use these hand deflections in old style Aikido? It's not tenshin all I know is I'm apart oh ASU. I also don't want to disrespect my instructor by doing something he hasn't shown. I've only been doing Aikido for about 4 months now and maybe it's me wanting to so call run before I can even walk? I also don't want to be doing old style irimi nage if the sh*t isn't practical in the real world either but we do it anyways in class. All I know is I want to be great at Aikido and be able to defend myself in a practical situation if ever need be. Thanks for the great content as always. Eric,
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Muserallo YES of course the hand deflections will work with your style of aikido. You say you train in ASU style, who is your sensei. I ask because I started out in ASU at the Chicago Aikikai back in 1989 under Kevin Choate sensei.
@ericmuserallo8733
@ericmuserallo8733 7 жыл бұрын
William Doonan. Trained under Paul Kang at Bond Street in New York City.
@ericmuserallo8733
@ericmuserallo8733 7 жыл бұрын
Along with Christine Jordon & Ken Nisson as well.
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Muserallo I know who Paul kang is but not the others. How do you like it so far?
@ericmuserallo8733
@ericmuserallo8733 7 жыл бұрын
I love Aikido. Would it be to soon for me to attend a seminar? I also would love to make a trip out towards you at some point. I really enjoy you're content, I believe it's the best out there.
@itneeds2bsaid528
@itneeds2bsaid528 7 жыл бұрын
Love these. But damn Lenny really needs to switch to decaf. Why do you place your wrist inside their hand for Nikkyo? Can't you do a tori version? (We call it "quick style" in my class but I don't know if that's common terminology.) That style of nikkyo to me, is for when you're gripped already.
@ruialmeida818
@ruialmeida818 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Lenny, I get that you live from Aikido and responding to nay sayers comes with the territory, but I find it to be an inglorious task - kind like trying to convince flat-earthers or creationists - people are stupid and keep in their comfort zone and with their bullshit misconceptions. That being said, let your technique speak for itself and don't waste time commenting on stupid claims. Best wishes from Portugal
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13 6 жыл бұрын
Rui Almeida Thank you!
@allyourpcarebelongtous8744
@allyourpcarebelongtous8744 7 жыл бұрын
so I guess what confuses me when I watch aikido videos is the martial art seems extremely practical, especially with how lenny and a few others apply it...but in real life how are you going to grab someone's arm or leg or wrist when they are moving fast? In practice it seems like you have to slow everything down and go at tempo to keep from hurting your partner, but if you can only ever practice at that tempo, how do you actually apply it to a real fight when someone isn't moving slow and is, for lack of a better description, bobbing and weaving to avoid being hit?
@allyourpcarebelongtous8744
@allyourpcarebelongtous8744 7 жыл бұрын
for the record I'm not trying to be a keyboard warrior; I'm genuinely asking.
@allyourpcarebelongtous8744
@allyourpcarebelongtous8744 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your response. It seems like, when I watch it, that your real strength with aikido is if you can get in and grapple with a person. Then it seems like a lot of moves can be applied if not at once. I don't know a whole lot about martial arts though, this is just what I've observed. Have you used aikido successfully in fights before? Either in self defense or one-on-one? I'm trying to figure out how aikido differs from Krav Maga and which is better to take from an efficiency stand point. I know Krav combines multiple martial arts, but I guess what I am trying to figure out is how would it differ from aikido combined with kickboxing and bjj. Note: not asking which is a "superior" art. Asking for how quick they are to learn versus their practicality in self defense
@allyourpcarebelongtous8744
@allyourpcarebelongtous8744 7 жыл бұрын
Soul Chicken The reason I was asking is we have two big gyms here, both offer mma & kickboxing. One also offers grappling and BJJ training. The other Krav Maga. We also have 1 Aikido studio. So I am trying to figure out if it's more worthwhile to sign up for the bjj mma gym and then add aikido to it OR sign up for both mma gyms to gain the additional krav training. I cannot afford to do all 3. The Aikido place charges 80$ a month and the others are standard gym fees so it's either both those gyms or one + aikido. That's why I was asking all these questions about realism in a fight. I can see, in theory, how aikido works, it just seems like it has more caveats in practical use than Krav. Thank you for your responses.
@allyourpcarebelongtous8744
@allyourpcarebelongtous8744 7 жыл бұрын
Soul Chicken OK thank you
@southcoastaikido3004
@southcoastaikido3004 6 жыл бұрын
all business ,,i never take it personal ...............i can feel the love
@gregoryw.1160
@gregoryw.1160 7 жыл бұрын
Sensei, honestly, who are these people who complain? You might need to disturb the space a little bit more with a full on attack, but on the street don't surprise attackers usually DO the space disturbing with a push, shove or jab? Then when they are grabbed they tend to thrust their hips back and drop their weight when they are resisting a grip. That's why the Tenshin stuff is so good--try and resist a nikyo or a yubidori--forget it! I was watching an old Saito seminar a while back and he counted out like 8 different types of nikyo! Exploring controls seemed pretty important to the Guardian of The Aiki Shrine! Let the haters hate! I found that other Tenshin sensei's video (won't name him) where he says to always keep your hands up in response to "what he is seeing" (meaning you I guess). Next time I'm out with my girl, I'm supposed to walk around all night with mummy arms?
@kmiranda322
@kmiranda322 7 жыл бұрын
Gregory W. Lenny is a great practitioner and he is doing great work. But if someone comes up to me on the street and gets combative I personally want to have my hands in a position where I know I have time to act. You might not agree and that's perfectly fine. That's all that was meant by that comment you refer to. Obviously when you're a seasoned practitioner like Lenny and some others, your timing is so good that you can AFFORD to have your hands down, because you know your evasions and you have your hand speed down to a tee. And there's tactical advantages to making yourself look like you're a target with your hands down of course, but the point being made was for others learning practical aikido to learn how to have your hands up first and then as you get good with evasions you can experiment with having them down. Lenny (one of the most visible) is just one of many Tenshin practitioners, there's a good amount out there, so I think you're assuming this person is singling Lenny out.
@kmiranda322
@kmiranda322 7 жыл бұрын
in fact in one of Lenny's first videos he goes over hand placement in real situations. I think it was the very first big youtube video. There's one he does where you have your hands up in a "don't hurt me" position and one where you have one hand on your chin almost like a "thinker" position. these stances are designed to have your hands up in your workspace so that your ready for an ambush punch without looking combative. It's a great tool that gives you an advantage.
@gregoryw.1160
@gregoryw.1160 7 жыл бұрын
No disrespect, and I might be assuming too much about who J.C. Sensei was referring to so you're right about that. But so much of my training was devoted to hands starting in a lower position! Even swordwork. I think that's because we don't walk around like that. Daito Ryu uses rising hands for the first atemi because they're harder to see. O-Sensei only seemed to have his hands up when being attacked or in zanshin. While waiting for INITIAL attacks his hands seemed low unless he was calling out from uke (as with ikkyo). As I said, no disrespect, we're budoka-family here, but Sly-Sensei is emphasizing what seems to be most likely, hence most practical.
@gregoryw.1160
@gregoryw.1160 7 жыл бұрын
kmiranda322 Again, even though punches haven't been thrown in these instances, the conflict is well underway with a face-to-face confrontation at close range. Hands up! In sword, the "fake fear hands up" posture is probably equivalent to something like Hasso No Kamai in kenjutsu--but is more dangerous in a sense because "hands up" makes the enemy feel that he has the advantage. We probably agree more than we disagree....
@kmiranda322
@kmiranda322 7 жыл бұрын
Gregory W. I hear that I agree with you, we don't walk around like that. there are countless demos of really good practitioners (even Seagal sensei) having their hands down. But they all have a common thread: their impeccable timing affords them that. Lenny has this timing. The problem arises when beginner students see that and try to EMULATE that... thinking they should start with their hands down. the inevitable result is that they never learn how to have them up. and that's a bad habit to have. I'm sure Lenny is aware of this and his past videos seem to point to that him and JC Sensei more or less agree. There are instances where having your hands "up" helps and there are instances where it isnt helpful. for example: when doing evasions against multiple ukes.. hands being down gets you caught. alot. just from experience. On the other side, having your hands low makes it damn near impossible for the uke to see a nodotsukiage, kao tsuki, etc coming. JC Sensei also understands this concept as i have been on the receiving end of so many of these types of strikes. So having your hands up has its advantages, and there are times you want that element of surprise and that low, grounded position. At the end of the day, no one has the exact same aikido, everyone generates their own and takes their own path. you're right we are one family under budo; there's always something to learn from others and at the end of the day it's all about improving and growing as one family. Take what's useful, if it's not your cup of tea, then hakuna matata!
@adamspice9076
@adamspice9076 7 жыл бұрын
Sensei is it possible to get a training lesson from you?
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13 7 жыл бұрын
AdamSpice oooook.... what are you asking exactly?
@adamspice9076
@adamspice9076 7 жыл бұрын
I mean to come to your dojo an train for 1hour.
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13
@SLYSCOMBATIVECONCEPTS13 7 жыл бұрын
AdamSpice sure you can do you live in Illinois
@khanhinhquang5175
@khanhinhquang5175 7 жыл бұрын
like
@pandabearlp
@pandabearlp 7 жыл бұрын
@ 4:05 I like how you are conscious of the uke's injuries and health. I came across this guy Florian Dau who just straight abuses his ukes. Whether he is good or not, I would not tolerate that abuse in any dojo. Here is a video I found of him. Unbelievable. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hH2VhKR_m612mtE
@ohiograssman1564
@ohiograssman1564 6 жыл бұрын
I don't find the video you shared abusive at all. What was so abusive about it?
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