Ken CURRY (Masculinity, Marriage, and Relationship Frame)

[@psychacks]

Learn more about Ken at solidman.com I enjoyed the opportunity to sit down with my friend and colleague, Ken Curry. Like me, Ken is a male therapist who specializes in men's mental health. He also runs a few virtual men's groups, based on his "Solid Man" process, out of his home state of Colorado (see below). In this conversation, we discuss how to avoid the 10,000 concessions that lead to the abdication of frame in long-term relationships, the pros (and cons) of marriage, and some of the challenges faced by modern men. Social Media Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Orion's Theme: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaO7c62HZ613e7M Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. Become a Stellar affiliate and earn a 10% commission for every membership purchased by a new student you conduct into the program: stellargre.tapfiliate.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: kzbin.info/door/SduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXwjoin Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Sponsor an episode: oriontarabanpsyd.com/sponsor-an-episode Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #psychology #masculinity #relationship

[@zensvlognotapro]

Some people don't know what they want to become especially when they still young . Me when I'm aware that we are poor during as early as during elementary grade I found out what I want . I remember when I was in the farm resting in a bamboo hut I'm crying because it's too hard working in the farm from there I told I don't want this kind of life I'm gonna pursue my studies, I'm gonna work. During school breaks I always think how to earn money I never think to have a relationship. I never think being selfish I Always think my family and that's childhood experiences and goals in life make me think love or relationship to use the mind and not the heart. However Im a ppl pleaser , I always think what's the best for other ppl . It makes me tired, now I only want a relationship with myself more I'm no longer excite when I see two ppl who have in a relationship 😊 . When only people think the meaning I Am what I choose to Become and when they think the shortness of life they strive to be better and enjoy life here on earth. The real man in order to be an empower man know the role as provider, protector and a leader . To women my tips give their man a freedom to do his own thing not what she wants only. I've seen that women want their husbands to always cling on them.

[@zensvlognotapro]

I wanna share one story about a friend when she's undergoing depression. We're trying to help during that time me and our mutual friend meet up to talk to her. Our conversation involved a question ; What do you really want now?. And I'm so sad and hurt and she said I don't know what I want 😢. That's the one of the hurtful and sad answer I I've heard . I'm also hurtful and sad when one lady told me men are trash 🗑️😢. It's not a drama but it's real story of humans feelings and circumstances.

[@esworld4656]

Your channel is a breath of fresh air for both men and women. There Is always hope when both parties want to grow and understand each other rather than proving the other person wrong.

[@AleksLazar]

Tapped into my selfish asshole self and it feels natural and I’ve been getting happier ever since. Firm boundaries, aggressive when necessary. Say a bit more hold back a bit less. Dial in as needed. Goal focused. Fit. Single. Do what I want. It’s awesome.

[@mrsherwood2599]

YOU.

[@ctfireinsky9554]

I can attest that my Inner Asshole must always have his hands on the wheel for a successful relationship. At the beginning of my current relationship he declared "MY game, My Rules. Your either On Board or Screw OFF RIGHT NOW!!". 23 Years and it's still working.

[@nikolaandonov6766]

How to solve "the problem" with the sugar coated marriage expectations? First of all we have to realise that there is no problem at all , It is just our perspective that all things "should" go smoothly. It ls like wanting to push the pendulum only in one direction (it is exhausting) instead allow it to swing in the order side, with the full knowledge that it is a temporary position, because nothing is permanent and we are much more stronger than we think in resilience to discomfort.

[@ARdave311]

This is all fantastic stuff, discovering what it takes to be a real man is very counterintuitive. I am a recovering nice guy, my childhood was great, had great family and friends no real drama, but I never got the attention from females I wanted, I just could not figure out why I was very very nice and respectful and tryed to be funny when I could most people enjoyed me but I couldn’t get the attraction from women I wanted, it blows my mind that the complete opposite is what would have attracted them, as soon as I validated women less, quit being a people please and put myself first, I instantly saw a shift in female attraction

[@TheFsissala]

Couldn’t have a more similar story. Couldn’t ask for a better upbringing. Had great relationships with women on a plutonic level. To get traction on on the kind of relationships I wanted I really needed to change a lot.

[@ARdave311]

@@eladbari man, the main thing is just treating them as equals, with beautiful women I would always validate them, offer favors without them even asking, and just overall show that I would give every second of my time to them. I just cut that stuff out and didn’t treat them any different than a dude really. They can just really sense that “people pleaser” nature and it turns them off so bad

[@ARdave311]

@@eladbari I would say, instead of trying to be selfish just focus on not being a people pleaser

[@eladbari]

@@ARdave311 that's well put. Do you still remember actual life situations and what did you do that first surprised yourself and then surprised her?

[@ARdave311]

@@eladbari yea man, so one thing I like to do is go to the gym for about a hour after work, she gets upset cause it dosnt put me home till about 8pm somtimes because I comute. Usually she would get combative about how she had been needing help and wished I would have not took so long and would have went straight home instead of to the gym. (She would say all this with high emotion almost like a fuss) back in the day I would usually always apologize and say “we’ll next time I won’t go” or “ I will try to hurry back home quicker next time” I finally just got sick of it and when she got combative I told her, I had been working hard and I was going to take that hour to myself because it helps me physically and mentaly. And I said it in a demanding way baisicly saying I was doing this and she needed to get over it. I was shocked cause it made me cringe (from being a nice guy) but it was met very well, you could see her face change, she might have had a few quick remarks back but I could tell deep down that she liked that shit, wich was just crazy to me) but yea you just have to make boundaries and not bend

[@zOrO2kX]

This is by far the best conversation in your channel. I don't know why this video hasn't more traction.

[@verb0ze]

My guess is it's because it's talking about real solutions and does not mean into the far end of the red pill. People are not out here for that, they want to hear that women are bad, it absolves them from doing any work on themselves. This takes a more sane approach: you do not have to hate women to live a fulfilled life as a man.

[@janinebiron7983]

Thank you for having someone married for 39 years! I identify with the man in my marriage and my husband identifies more with the woman so your prospective has been so valuable and explaining myself vs podcast for woman! 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ but I have been married for 41 years and feel the fulfillment that Ken feels and am still striving to make our marriage more fulfilling for both of us…

[@beowulf_of_wall_st]

what a bunch of nonsense

[@JCnordic2983]

I divorced after 10 years from adultery on her part. Courts are a grind house. My wage was considered base wage with my stipend and shift differential included. The idea of this feeling, leaving your home and child while the partner lives on an exaggerated childsupport. I felt like I was punished and was failed by the system. I became single at 29 and I met alot of gd women, but when they talked about wanting kids/ Marriage, I vacated like it was the plague. At that time I was still giving the majority of my salary even when she upgraded her wage. I eventually found a paralegal who was a mens advocate luckily. " He said your first mistake was using the municipal court to finalize your paper work. He asked and I quoate, were they all women staff"? I learned a valuable lesson. We reconfigured my child support to a fair number.

[@steverussell9340]

Great talk guys. Proves the point that most men can talk about their married lives in a very honest way without being subservient to be constantly judgemental approach that women tend to inflict on us.

[@eric_linden]

So interesting to me as I am a fan of yours, but am married and have 5 kids. I hope you two have more conversations like this.

[@ntl219]

So early that the title is a literal Code.

[@zb8546]

Same

[@renaldsunset]

Looks like the old videos I used to download back in the early interwebs .mp4 😁

[@cj548]

It's his phone number, give him a call

[@markallen2984]

When your name is " Orion" it's not surprising that you might communicate in numeric codes 🤖🛸

[@YoungTrash-ro1ip]

😂😂😂😂

[@patrick815]

Love the channel.

[@okaySam]

Good talk, keep up the good work. But you can clearly see the different generations at play here... Times have changed so fast, we need guests - at least under 40 - in these conversations. Also guests who have been dating within the last 5 years.

[@IAmTheEggMan111]

Great talk gents

[@Zero_Zero_Zero_Zero]

I do appreciate this talk, but it's painfully obvious that this cat married young to an agreeable woman, and it's left him with a positive view of marriage that just doesn't reflect the lived experience of most modern men. I mean, I'm happy for him, and it sounds nice. But if you try to apply his ideas to some of these insta-girls of today, you're going to get an expensive, and very long lasting lesson. Dr O tried to explore that with him actually, but the dude just can't get his mind around it.

[@ARdave311]

I disagree, even dr glover (no more mr nice guy) got married after his couple of failed relationships and married after he realized a lot of female truths. When you find the right one that’s submissive and gets you marriage can be fantastic. I will agree that most marriages fail but that dosnt mean marriage can not be great and somthing people should strive for

[@Zero_Zero_Zero_Zero]

@@ARdave311 I'm right there with you man. But I'm out of time to pay for old relationships. That's the thing, when they end, you're still on the hook for the bill. The last one took more than a decade to pay off. I just don't have time for that anymore. I want the good parts, I want them up front, and absent that, I'm going to walk. Not even trying to be hard about it, just out of time.

[@pedridemperi9872]

@@Zero_Zero_Zero_Zero I'm being held to pay for 5 plus years for a two year marriage....i feel your pain. But we must ascend and take the stepping stone as a forward move. Lean on the experience it will never be repeated. Cross the river man to the promised land. Take the step. A ten year step is a huge foundation for the year ahead. Keep your hands up protect yourself at all times. Guard your heart for it is your treasure.

[@mgruntman]

So who got a pre or post nuptial agreement?

[@thecurrentmoment]

So maybe the listen here is to marry young to an agreeable woman. There are lots of guys who aren't taking that approach

[@Action_Savage_]

Dude, love this topic and guest. I LITERALLY just made a video about being selfish and how its the BEST thing you can do for everyone else. Crazy timing.

[@joeyh9619]

Incredible conversation !

[@systemshock869]

When he doesn't (or pretends not to) understand your take on the "egalitarian model" I would ask this question: In the event that your power wife decides that the both of you need to uproot and move to NYC to further HER career at the detriment of your established practice in Colorado, what is the move? You can wax eloquent about how everyone is equal till you are blue in the face, but there will always be one captain and one first mate. A good captain will empower his employees for sure, but the first mate will never actually run the ship in a direction that the captain doesn't approve of.

[@XFollowers]

Appreciate this banter. Appreciate Mr. Curry`s response to questions. However, I identified with Orion's analysis on almost every ponit and his response to Ken. Orion demonstrates a large vocabulary to articulate points without being alienating. Possibly others resonate with Ken , however, Ken did not seem to display a deep understanding of Orions points. Thanks Orion. All the best. Anthony

[@bast145]

Thank you sir for your great work.

[@Hansa7122]

The solid man process, wow.

[@Funque]

Best video title I've ever seen :D

[@Drew-wf9bg]

id love to see content like this with Paul from apex mindsets, you and him have the best content in the space by a long shot.

[@megancyloneight9822]

Yes Paul is underrated I think because he looks like a meathead but is terribly smart. He and Rian Stone. Orion has to know the original Rule Zero guys; he uses too many of their vernacular not to have been influenced by them.

[@0bsolet]

Another great talk! 47 years, lots of ez girlfriends (each one got better than the last) but right now I only have affectionate connections with low drama low demand younger girls and I do whtever I want. Love my life and it will improve. I Would love to know the name of the book that writes about different african relationship models. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Brazil!

[@markallen2984]

I was never consciously aware of seeking "validation" but I certainly was interested in being appreciated. Maybe they are functionally indistinguishable from an outside perspective

[@neomacchio4692]

My God this is amazing! Sooooo refreshing to hear. Thank you both!!! This is also the root of capitalism. To act in one’s own self interests in order to create abundance, so that one may be of more value to those around them. It’s not perfect because humans aren’t perfect… but it’s brought more out of poverty than any other economical structure! This is amazing and is giving me an epiphany. Look at relationships, or even our self worth as men, as capitalist. The better we do for ourselves, the more women want to enter our frame. And the more security and joy we can bring to them. Love this.

[@cuchulainn1967]

Nice guest, great interview, yet I think Mr Curry is quixotic, in a sense that he seems to believe it is always up to the individual to determine his/ her destiny, especially when it come to relationships...Almost like the " ubiquitous myth", " If I can do, so can you!"...I beg to differ and offer to entertain with a short anecdote..A close associate of mine is a very successful corporate lawyer ( with a doctorate in law) who is CEO of the biggest corporate law- firm in Germany...When I asked him how he got where he is nowadays, he said something along these lines, " It takes dedication, desire and plenty of LUCK!"...That is right!!!...Surely, you can ( maybe even ought to) work hard towards any goal ( even trying to get a good marriage going), yet when lightning strikes you dead whilst taking a shit, all your plans go down the crapper...So, Mr Curry, not to take anything away of your effort and hard work, I´d say you also got lucky and probably should see it like that?!?!?!... Just saying!

[@yourfavoriteentertainment]

EIYPO

[@Hansa7122]

One should try to not live while seeking validation especially when it means being a traitor to oneself. 😮

[@ohshiz4244]

There was an underlying debate happening.

[@megancyloneight9822]

It was an excellent demonstration of a civil debate, moreso because of Orion's stewardship, but refreshing nonetheless.

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

When hearing about the masculinity vs nice guy dynamic, frame, power vs egalitarianism dynamic, sacrifice, self vs us dynamic, consumptive love, presence vs absence dynamic, attachment vs detachment theory, marriage vs black pill dynamic ( 40:00 ), etc, is that relationships and marriages are extremely complicated in 2023.

[@nikolaandonov6766]

37:10 I am inviting you in my life not because I want to feel loved and accepted and wanted, (I already have those things, they are inate, they are my inherent nature), but I invite you from a prospective of pure excitement and curiosity and desire to develop and to build a relationship in which we will know ourselves better and hopefully expand our family.

[@J.Braxton]

1:11:30 - so off-base. A man in the US could raise a family with 4-6 kids on a single salary in the 50s-60s. In today’s economy you need two incomes just to try and have one or two kids-and without having a wife stay at home the overall health of the family suffers.

[@joslyndmello9853]

I often compare our modern western relationship conundrums to the little Ive learned about cultures that still keep the sexes separate for the majority of their daily activities. I do sometimes think women would be more contented within a strongly female-purposed arena, (same for men in a masculine-centered one) and coming together for a handful of specifics: i.e., sex, ceremonies, some marketplace trading, food prep and the like...I compound my confusion by also imagining a future situation where people live in group marriages, as suggested on the tv show Caprica (a prequel of the more recent version of Battlestar Galactica).😅 Obviously the technological advances of the present era are more supportive of implementing the group scenario, however, these intentional communities Ive seen popping up have the capacity to do either. They could be little incubators for a psychological study.

[@Zero_Zero_Zero_Zero]

Once you enter into a truly egalitarian relationship, you will learn a valuable lesson. Hypergamy means that the man that would do that, simply isn't "good enough". You also just learned why we ask the fishermen what the fish like, instead of asking the fish. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[@errorerror1337]

As a man looking to get married and have children, this made me very depressed

[@mrsherwood2599]

NOOO DON"T!!!

[@michamichalak6200]

Mr Taraban, you are psychologist, you are moderately extroverted and disagreeable, creative and rather of liberal temperament. Such people are not predisposed for long lasting marriages, especially in urban environment. Environment and temperament play huge role here.

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

You know it's good when the video title is gibberish

[@davidwhyman1189]

Right now the vid title is "Ken CURRY (Masculinity, Marriage, and Relationship Frame)". Was it different earlier? If so, what was it please.

[@jeremybray9586]

Interesting interview, where the interviewer was way ahead of, and had a deeper understanding of current issues than, the interviewee.

[@christofotto2499]

more viewers might have likely the age of Ken Curry though, the baby boomers 😂

[@yourfavoriteentertainment]

100%

[@JohnSmith-lm9gr]

Women initiate divorce more, but how many of those men have already silently quit? As in the man quit the marriage first, she just initiated the formal process.

[@bolt-dbtfg]

1:11:50 I would argue when times are Tough we STAY together out of necessity for Survival. But we COME together more frequently for short term Sexual Success when times are Good. And its the female of the species who decides whether a relationship is wanted. Men can argue they are the gatekeepers of a relationship, but if the women does not see an advantage to having a relationship, she's not going to give a man the option in the first place to decide if he wants her in to his life or not.

[@peggz223]

Title? Also can’t believe I’m this early 😆

[@davidwhyman1189]

Right now the vid title is "Ken CURRY (Masculinity, Marriage, and Relationship Frame)". Was it different earlier? If so, what was it please.

[@peggz223]

@@davidwhyman1189 oh haha glad he changed it shortly after uploading, it was originally something along the lines of ‘video629G738D’

[@bigbeats1]

I have to say it: men have to learn that to govern themselves and women.

[@angledcoathanger]

Your title!

[@davidwhyman1189]

Right now the vid title is "Ken CURRY (Masculinity, Marriage, and Relationship Frame)". Was it different earlier? If so, what was it please.

[@Monsters-of-the-ID]

Brilliant, both different perspectives but coming to the same conclusion, individuals need their own space and interests irrespective of the institution of marriage. OT fronts a good point about the African Tribe and thirteen different relationship models. One size no longer fits all and society overall is brainwashed by not just the system and media but Vox Pop, that we all more or less come to a collective agreement young and old alike that the institution of marriage is the pinnical of what out lives should be about and its not. I will finish by saying the most important issue is children. Whatever model we choose they must be protected, because if we don't, we establish a learning rote, which continues time and time again and nobody wants that, do we?

[@almightybilly]

that grey hair guy sounds like he's speaking from North Korea. He has too much to lose.

[@postmodernmining]

Stop with the click bait titles.

[@zhartho]

😂😂😂

[@Youuuuuu]

The joke is that the original title was something like video273848

[@postmodernmining]

@@Youuuuuu dang it! They changed the title!

[@steflift5165]

@@Youuuuuu Psychacks really grinding out 200K+ videos 🔥

[@mrsherwood2599]

​@@postmodernminingdon't you hate that? Us members got the joke.

[@edwardyoutube]

1:14:00 how about changing the laws so that you can't divorce if not for demonstrable safety reasons? That way at least people who are on the "maybe" or those planning to divorce to get alimony will give up on getting married and ruining it for everybody else.

[@megancyloneight9822]

Prenup

[@leogatsby5224]

Please add bookmarks

[@GreatRetro]

Uuu, Detachment theory is an amazing idea!!!

[@ninc2518]

When you put God in the center, the woman or man can't be the center. When the 2 individuals are God fearing, they think twice their actions and have more emotional resposability towards others. I think the solution is unite to people with strong values: respect, resposability, humility, generosity. And as you said, first with yourself and to God. But men go for the "hot chicks" and women for the "bad boys", just because we can't control our desires. They are sexy, though. Is it worth it?

[@yourfavoriteentertainment]

Why would you fear God if God is pure love?

[@ninc2518]

@@yourfavoriteentertainment yes, he is love and mercy, but justice too. I know it has a bad connotation saying that I fear God, but are the effects of my acts what I fear.

[@Alex.Kalashnik]

@@yourfavoriteentertainmentBecause he is extremely powerful and also just, so if you commit injustices, he can take you out or otherwise make you pay.

[@christofotto2499]

Oh Mr Curry is only a couple of years older than me and I 've been single.😂 marriage is good if both belong to the same religion otherwise it's kinda rolling the dice, that in the process of maturing both move into the same direction. I even changed my religion from catholic to SDA and am not sure whether a marriage would have survived that 😂 been a weak man with only few options, would take probably another 60 years to find a good women but would have liked to have a commited wife 😢

[@josephhh102]

Visit an Orthodox Church

[@JordiMuntada]

The title of the video is wrong?

[@davidwhyman1189]

Right now the vid title is "Ken CURRY (Masculinity, Marriage, and Relationship Frame)". Was it different earlier? If so, what was it please.

[@cechzc1u]

24:22 Sorry but I don't believe him. He really wants to say the opposite but he's afraid of being cancelled. I can't fault him though.

[@ichdu7310]

While I understand him, he sometimes talks from the angle of a past generation. Why not fight for relationship? Well the obvious reason is loss of attraction, not being attracted to the other person anymore means no sex, I had that in my relationship and eventually I divorced my wife after 12 years because not only went the relationship sauer, I was also no longer attracted to her and was not interested in sex anymore with her. There is no point in figthing here, you cannot negotiate attraction and desire, period. Now I am indeed so called blackpilled with 50 in that I have no interest for a woman in my life anzymore, I dont see any value in it compared to the cost and loss of time and resources on my part.

[@benwilliams4821]

OT: “What does marriage provide men that they couldn’t get out of a non-marriage relationship?” Ken: proceeds to give a list of things that a man can get in a non-marriage relationship. Ken didn’t illustrate even one example of what marriage provides men that they couldn’t get out of a non-marriage long term relationship. Pay attention to this, men.

[@josephmontague1953]

Old video and I love all of the good doctor’s videos, but there is something here where the unmarried don’t quite understand the contentment and foundation that come with a good marriage and strong familial love. Though there are many risks along the way, family is the foundation of society, and marriage and children are to be strived for. A man who marries and has children and truly commits to them and takes responsibility for them is almost always a more serious man than one who never has. Divorced men often get a pass here because they were serious enough to at least take the risk, but I meet many divorced men who within 5 minutes of conversation regarding the subject make it obvious why they’re divorced (they’re intolerable partners). Doc has developed a professionalism and personal foundation that are incredibly strong for an unmarried man, but I feel he just doesn’t quite have the depth of concept of what Ken is trying to get across, and that’s totally understandable, as it’s unspeakable in a way until you live it.

[@bluebaby4964]

The guest is very disconnected but interesting conversation

[@bolt-dbtfg]

1:03:00 Mid-Life Crisis or Mid-Life Realization, that those men are now at the peak of their male attraction and optionality? The shaming language comes from mid-life women who want those Attractive men to settle for them, and not pursue younger women We don't hear the flip of accusing women age 21-23, at the peak of their attraction, that they should settle down and not leverage their peak sexual value to pursue the male optionality those women have

[@isaacrurengo4690]

So what are we fixing here 🤔

[@MyMy-tv7fd]

its OK Orion, we have plenty of MGTOW and manosphere channels, but the more the merrier

[@alexwelts2553]

What if your partner wants to go fishing too? And also if you offer the strength in a partners weaknesses to let them find their own strength into power couples. Be careful of them sucking that power from you in a parasitic way. It's a slow process but one day you realize an imbalance and then a dominance struggle is constantly happening. In my experience I offered strength to be attacked

[@edwardtjones]

"But in the town, it was well known when they got home at night, their fat and psychopathic wives would thrash them within inches of their lives." Pink Floyd

[@mrsherwood2599]

VERY NICE!

[@TalonDeKarrde]

👍🏻

[@brianbard3846]

The key to most of this is ,the covert contract is the problem with men.?

[@sarahey8734]

Why is Ken Curry blaming the woman, the wife, with becoming disillusioned with the marriage after many years, after kids? What if it's the husband, who had affairs? And the wife is perfectly happy. And, women file more for divorce after they find out about infidelity.

[@bolt-dbtfg]

Your wife ground you through the divorce machine?: You should have had a stronger Frame Bro! Your Wife was a harpy?: You should have vetted harder Bro! Women change. Circumstances change. And even if you do everything right she can still divorce you. Or alternatively a few years into the marriage she could turn fat, or bitchy, or uninterested in sex, or anyother kind of behaviour you do not like; so vetting is not the answer. Its better to be in a lifestyle situation that you can walk away from with MINIMUM consequences. So WHY sign a marriage agreement that is all downside risk to men. Why not force a marriage/divorce law change. Why do all these triple backflip loops to avoid brutal divorce laws. Reform the marriage/divorce laws ffs Also consider why is it that if women suffer from any kind of hardship men and women ask "what can we do to help?" BUT if men are suffering hardship we tell the man to "Man up!" Because Men and women are evolved to prefer women over men. Men are their our own worse enemy. Men have ceeded so much power, policies and laws to provide and protect women. Women will just take and take and take its in their nature. However You can still have a life long wife without getting married. There's no law that saying you have to marry to live together and have children. Avoiding the marriage agreement avoids most of the Risk in divorce. (also avoid introducing her as your 'wife', or adding her as a spousal beneficiary to your pension, Lifeinsuramce etc. as some states will then treat her as if you are married Make such benefits paid out to another trustworthy family member and agree for the benefits to be passed to her upon your death), BUT USA still have brutally unfair child support laws (they are an absolute travesty), that currently cannot be got around even if you're not married. There has to be a complete Divorce/Child support Law reform.

[@christofotto2499]

they will not change the divorce law because of the agenda behind it , they prepare the stage for the up coming anti christ, they intend to destroy the marriage as a godly institution, they support the abolishment of marriage and they also gonna support switching gender 😂

[@yourfavoriteentertainment]

EIYPO

[@comicbooknarcissist]

Well said, brother; many share your reality.

[@nicolem889]

I like Ken. You can always tell the married folk from the unmarried ones. The unmarried ones are full of hypotheticals, what-ifs, and anxiety.

[@ntolman]

And the marrieds are miserable. The wife is planning to divorce and take half of the man's net worth.

[@nicolem889]

@@ntolman Really? Mr. Hypotheticals. It’s really that the unmarried ones have timid personalities in the first place. They’re both timid and judgmental.

[@ntolman]

@@nicolem889 is it really hypothetical if divorce is how most marriages end?

[@nicolem889]

@@ntolman No. Majority of marriages still do end with death, Mr. Hypotheticals. Further, would you rather put all your energy in what-ifs and stats from blogs or would you rather actually seek a partner? Prob, the first.

[@ntolman]

@@nicolem889 wrong 40% to 50% of first marriages end in divorce.

[@aminaahussein4527]

It sounds like all men should just be single since they feel like relationships don’t benefit them that much

[@yourfavoriteentertainment]

Be single until you've dated the person long enough that you are 100% sure your life would be better in a relationship with them.

[@IamKrystalHardwick]

@@yourfavoriteentertainmenthow could anyone be that sure about anything?

[@beowulf_of_wall_st]

accurate

[@amiranvarov]

Hey Orion, title of the video seems wrong.

[@davidwhyman1189]

Right now the vid title is "Ken CURRY (Masculinity, Marriage, and Relationship Frame)". Was it different earlier? If so, what was it please.

[@brianbard3846]

Hey hacks, does Ken ever have a depressing, time. It sounds like his daughter is a lesbian. That's not married and has all kinds of friends

[@marilynoverton8142]

Good content. Commercial overload! Unfortunate!

[@Adrian_Estando]

At 7:38 - Mystic Christianity? No, that is actual Christianity. Neither Christ nor his apostles nor his disciples were or are part of the world. Nominal Christians are always part of politics, nationalism, worldly celebration and controversy. 😂

[@ntolman]

I have no purpose in life bcause there is no purpose worth having.

[@yourfavoriteentertainment]

Your beliefs create your reality.

[@ntolman]

@@yourfavoriteentertainment other way around. Reality creates my beliefs. No amount of belief will turn rain into sunshine.

[@steflift5165]

You don't need purpose. Purpose and meaning fills the space when your life isn't going well and you're working towards helping others without personal gain. You can look to increase your social circle, try volunteering with things that interest you or people you like, or improve your life circumstances and content yourself with it

[@julesfalcone]

I'm 31 minutes in. The guest is not masculine. A lot of word salad. He admits to not maintaining frame. I'm out.

[@elainieish]

Agreed, he is gross!

[@brianbard3846]

What if the man chooses to be a bum, and not strive for conventional society standards

[@brianbard3846]

Hey hacks, misery loves company, and people are petty and I think older ones want to see younger generation fail and be just as miserable for them

[@brianbard3846]

But the sowing of the wild oats is the problem, w,/ reproduction and the bonding processes

[@seamusconlan9673]

Marriage is hard work mostly.

[@neomacchio4692]

How to solve that problem? The problem of women and men being educated on marriage so they know what to expect? Yes. Require a 6 month legally enforced course that takes them through the stages of marriage, kids, empty nesters, and provides tools for how to cope with those stages and challenges. Because… whether this works in the end or not doesn’t matter… once they complete this course, and have read all the stories and learned about all the stages, they may decide NOT to proceed. The Disney (BS) fantasy will be neutralized.

[@beowulf_of_wall_st]

Ken seems very out of touch with today's relationship situations

[@mirzaeva8177]

Ahahahahhahaha detachment theory was the best part for me

[@brianbard3846]

Hey physo, all this shot is too much.

[@user-yf4hv8vr3q]

Do better Dr.Orion. Tradcons should not be in our space. Adjusting feminist talking points to the male prospective.

[@xXrockmeXx]

You don't know how to stay in your marriage? HELP YOUR WIFE. TAKE CARE OF HER. RAISE YOUR KIDS WITH HER. Wtf? 🤦‍♀️

[@spicole2937]

Why not get fathers back in the home stop drugging tjem in schools seperate boys in school bring in male teachers

[@goldenremnant2610]

10:00 - So this is essentially the inferred position of the God of the Bible: why did He create other beings? To share His freedom, authority and blessing with them. (Just trying to restore the correct reputation of the Bible by giving you validating feedback, aka affirming your belief by the Word of God) ““I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. THE GLORY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME I HAVE GIVEN TO THEM, that they may be one EVEN AS WE ARE ONE, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them EVEN AS YOU LOVED ME.” ‭‭John‬ ‭17‬:‭20‬-‭23‬ ‭ESV‬‬ ----- “And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, TO HIM WILL I GIVE POWER OVER THE NATIONS: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: EVEN AS I RECEIVED OF MY FATHER. AND I WILL GIVE HIM THE MORNING STAR.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭2‬:‭26‬-‭28‬ ‭KJVAAE‬‬ -----

[@danillodossantos4735]

22:50. You know he didn't really want to say boy.

[@TV-oc4ml]

Lol Attachment theory

[@jonmcmahon90292]

screw consensus

[@MarinaM-o6p]

Stop with the fracking “ frame “ already …enough

[@ajayfoster4428]

59:39. I certainly believe that’s it’s possible; a lot of men are Generally programmed Beta proxies, obliviously. Great delivery Sir🫡