Khargyraa basic technique

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@31200Julien
@31200Julien 10 ай бұрын
My man unintentionaly summoning Sardaukars
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 3 ай бұрын
Very similar technique as used in the film
@johnnyCheeseburger
@johnnyCheeseburger 11 жыл бұрын
It is immensely satisfying when you first feel it.
@WildoRicci
@WildoRicci 11 жыл бұрын
i agree!!!
@joelwallenius2877
@joelwallenius2877 7 жыл бұрын
Nah it just hurts.
@cyanheskett9513
@cyanheskett9513 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, and there is a good reason actually. When done correctly, kargyraa vibrates the vagus nerve, which affects your autonomic nervous system. Toning the vagus nerve benefits things like digestion and the immune system. It also helps to quell anxiety and the like. Studies have shown that many of the health benefits of yoga come from the fact that it helps tone the vagus nerve. In that respect, Tuvan throat singing is much like "vocal yoga"
@eyesofobsidian
@eyesofobsidian 6 жыл бұрын
Joel Wallenius then you aren’t doing it right. It needs to be felt deeper in your chest rather than where your vocal chords are.
@yuridanylko
@yuridanylko 5 жыл бұрын
@@cyanheskett9513 Show me your source for this claim
@davidnar
@davidnar 3 жыл бұрын
11 years later, this is the best tutorial found in KZbin, I managed to get the basic tone within 2 hours
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it's still useful :-)
@mrpaja
@mrpaja Жыл бұрын
@@JonnyMcBoingBoing i love you
@mbrsart
@mbrsart 12 жыл бұрын
I figured out how to do this on my own, when I was sick. I heard--and felt--the subharmonics, and I replicated the action and ran with it. Happiest day of my life.
@BMerker
@BMerker 10 жыл бұрын
Fine, thanks for this demonstration. Just a note about the anatomy of kargyraa. The structure set in motion (usually at half the frequency of the vocal folds, leading to the one octave drop) is - like you say - the false vocal folds, also called the ventricular folds. But these are located above the true vocal folds, and not below them. The outpouching called the ventricle intervenes between the two. What makes it feel like the effect is occurring below the true vocal folds is that the large amplitude of the ventricular fold vibration sets a large portion of the throat vibrating along with them, inluding tissue below the true folds. For more details, see my paper from 2001: P.-A. Lindestad, M. Sodersten, B. Merker, S. Granqvist (2001). Voice source characteristics in Mongolian ”Throat Singing” studied with high speed imaging technique, acoustic spectra and inverse filtering. Journal of Voice, 15: 78-85. It is based on high-speed imaging of my laryngeal area (2000 images per second) through fiber optics inserted into my throat via my nasal passages while I am singing Kargyraa style. I am glad I only had to do it once!
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 9 жыл бұрын
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@xzenor
@xzenor 3 жыл бұрын
Six years later, still helpful. Thanks. I got confused because some videos say it's above the vocal folds and others (like this one) say it's below the vocal folds. So thanks for clearing up that mystery.
@jamesnurgle6368
@jamesnurgle6368 5 жыл бұрын
just spent two hours looking through videos to teach me about this and this is the first one to show me where to aim
@twofacepain1020
@twofacepain1020 5 жыл бұрын
James Nurgle same
@Mjdrage
@Mjdrage 9 жыл бұрын
Best guide to start throat singing ive come across and ive looked all over the net so bravo mate, good simple and straightforward explanations
@amentothatt
@amentothatt 4 жыл бұрын
It actually helped clear the phlem that 's been stuck in my throat for 25 years
@greendrummers
@greendrummers Жыл бұрын
That is so funny!!! Brilliant. You must have had some stuck up there😂
@bigpapa6426
@bigpapa6426 5 жыл бұрын
I started doing this cause of a meme and It came naturally within a few hours without any tutorials or anything wtf
@baakelyeen1767
@baakelyeen1767 4 жыл бұрын
Same haha
@marklayam9394
@marklayam9394 4 жыл бұрын
Youre doing it wrong if its not as loud
@ariamorgan4378
@ariamorgan4378 4 жыл бұрын
ooooOOOOOaaaaaAAAAAAA
@andrew7955
@andrew7955 6 жыл бұрын
I can't seem to get it right. Every time I get down low in my throat it starts to do the equivalent of vocal fry and I cannot continue
@xxMech
@xxMech 5 жыл бұрын
same
@zxcvbs
@zxcvbs 5 жыл бұрын
@@xxMech me too. I wipe it off on tile, the light is brighter this time Everything is 3D blasphemy
@hexyko4850
@hexyko4850 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't been able to do the or metal growls at all. I feel frustrated
@albagubrath0098
@albagubrath0098 5 жыл бұрын
gaba aoeu lol slipknot fan
@TjoaWeiHan
@TjoaWeiHan 4 жыл бұрын
@@hexyko4850 bro it's actually way easier than throat singing, just make your upper abs stiff
@ruter8
@ruter8 10 жыл бұрын
I saw that a frw people already commented on the fact that the false vocal cords are below the regular vocal cords. I just wanted to add that the lower pitch is due to the fact that the false vocal folds are bigger (more mass) and hence vibrate slower than the vocal folds during phonation, causing alower pitch :)
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 9 жыл бұрын
Anna Englund these videos have been completely replaced by my new online course with lots more content www.udemy.com/throat-singing-overtone-singing/?couponCode=FBdirectOT Use the coupon code for a discount!
@cyanheskett9513
@cyanheskett9513 7 жыл бұрын
Just as a general advisory here, after looking over the comments; If it hurts, you are doing it wrong. I am not perfect at this either, but I do know that much, and I got that tip from an actual Tuvan. If it hurts, most likely you are stressing an area too high in the throat. The feeling is actually lower than where most people start, and it can be difficult to learn that kind of subtle muscle control. I am a certified yoga instructor, so I am very used to paying attention to subtle feelings in the body and isolating very specific musculature. It is easy to get a "growl" from squeezing the top part of your throat hard and vocalizing, but it is like choking yourself from the inside, and it hurts like coughing up razor blades. The feeling you are looking for should be closer to your chest than your chin. I started feeling it right in the suprastrenal notch (where your collar bones meet your breast bone). Also, playing didgeridoo will really help you with building lung capacity and breath control. I actually started doing khoomei (mid-range throat singing) accidentally, before I even knew what it was, by practicing didgeridoo vocalizations without my instrument.
@joelwallenius2877
@joelwallenius2877 7 жыл бұрын
Are you active here still? I'm struggling so much with this, I've been dreaming for years about learning proper kargyraa, but it just never stops hurting. I can get the powerful low sound going but in my throat something is burning. After a minute of trying, my throat is swollen and my chest voice deepens... useful for choir sometimes but hardly ideal. I can do strohbass, but it's just not the same. Unreliable too. :(
@cyanheskett9513
@cyanheskett9513 7 жыл бұрын
I am fairly active. You can go to my page, I have a whole bunch of throat singing videos I did, not all great, but you can see my learning process. I'd be happy to give any advice I can, but I'd probably do better with a sample of your voice. Have you uploaded any of your own attempts at kargyraa? I've been developing my sygyt a lot and noticed it is even harder for me to get kargyraa now than it was before. I can get it back, but it takes a while. I'm still good at Oidupaa style, oddly enough, I guess because of the higher fundamental... anyway, hop over to my page and check out the play list. I tried to do more tutorial type stuff, so maybe you can find something useful there. If you have any samples of your own work, shoot me a link or something. Thanks for the reply.
@joelwallenius2877
@joelwallenius2877 7 жыл бұрын
It's past midnight here so I don't dare record right now. I'll make a note of it for tomorrow though. I do have old recordings of kargyraa attempts, but I doubt their ability to represent my current technique. I'll have a look at your videos in the meantime. Thank you so much!
@joelwallenius2877
@joelwallenius2877 7 жыл бұрын
I should be in bed now but I had to reply first. The kargyraa that you sing is not kargyraa, I think you'd want to know that as soon as possible. You're not engaging the false vocal folds. The typical starting point when learning kargyraa (or strohbass, actually) is about one fifth above your lowest full chest voice note - whereas you advocate starting as low as you can go!
@cyanheskett9513
@cyanheskett9513 7 жыл бұрын
Joel Wallenius wow, thanks for the notes, really. I accept your criticism, and it makes a lot of sense. A lot of people would be upset, but I really appreciate it. I'm going to try putting your advice into practice and hopefully improve my kargyraa!
@ChuckCanada1
@ChuckCanada1 8 жыл бұрын
I know when I have got it because my throat hurts, I cough, my eyes water and in my head I can hear a harmony when you make the O vowel in this video. I think I am able to do it for about 4 seconds max and then I stop. Thanks a lot for this video, it is the best help on youtube for sure. A lot of other videos are seriously just hogwash, people that don't understand what they are doing or people that do not understand how they can seriously hurt a person by having them practice this.
@SinnersRhapsody
@SinnersRhapsody Жыл бұрын
I am using this to learn false chord screaming for metal and this helped me so much more than any other tutorial I saw before
@PrimeDesercrator
@PrimeDesercrator Жыл бұрын
I'm here for the same reason
@loganmulhall4560
@loganmulhall4560 Жыл бұрын
@@PrimeDesercratorright behind ya
@dawid1452
@dawid1452 10 ай бұрын
@@PrimeDesercrator me too
@anthemlog
@anthemlog 3 жыл бұрын
When I was learning this I found that warming up is the most important part.
@GIBBEH
@GIBBEH 4 жыл бұрын
1:51 Minecraft vindicator noise
@Dywan91
@Dywan91 5 жыл бұрын
You've blown my mind about how easy it is to start with Khargyraa! Your video is really helpful, thank you for sharing!
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 13 жыл бұрын
Sygyt with loud harmonics is one of the hardest styles to perfect. Closing off the drone takes real skill and alot of effort - I'm still working on it myself. Go with caution to avoid injury.
@Red-mo2uo
@Red-mo2uo 4 жыл бұрын
Sound For Health / Jonny Cope learning this is quarantine
@Darba07
@Darba07 12 жыл бұрын
I probably should've tried this when I wasn't drinking, I have a bit of a mess to clean up, thank you for posting this great video and you've helped alot of people out
@DraccoKnightblade
@DraccoKnightblade Жыл бұрын
Have been obsessed with Umet Ozcan and how he can throat sing, definitely inspired me to attempt to learn how to do so too. Thanks!
@Pieishman
@Pieishman 16 жыл бұрын
ok....AGGGHHHH MY THROAT..... I really shouldnt have ate that pencil earlier...
@erlik420
@erlik420 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@Dan_K_Meme
@Dan_K_Meme 4 жыл бұрын
11 years wow
@erlik420
@erlik420 4 жыл бұрын
metal_ak4 yes.
@archerdark7524
@archerdark7524 4 жыл бұрын
@@erlik420 And i reply for your 2 weeks old comment :P
@redditfunnyhurhur6023
@redditfunnyhurhur6023 2 жыл бұрын
What if joel is dead😧
@SirRichardGranger
@SirRichardGranger 10 ай бұрын
Very fascinating! I stumbled upon this video after seeing the Dune films and thought the throat singing (from the Sardukar) was absolutely otherworldly! Please make more videos showing the Khargyraa technique. Thank you for sharing!
@aurochs1
@aurochs1 2 ай бұрын
This is the video I followed to get the initial kargyraa sound and been practicing for the past 6 years. My friend who went to Mongolia played my recordings to locals who throat sing and they were excited and said it was very good, so I feel Mongol approved now haha. Anyway, thanks.
@Music_is_Easy
@Music_is_Easy 9 жыл бұрын
I think smoking might make it significantly more difficult to isolate the lower folds. I thought I had it for a while today, but then kept doing the *ahem* and heard the deeper resonant. Every time I tried to isolate it I would get close and start coughing. I'm almost entirely on an electric cigarette, for about three months now, and now after about 20 mins of coughing up mucus when I get close to the sound I am able to hit and sustain it. I have a suspicion that the vocal folds needed for this are also susceptible to becoming coated with nasties from cigarettes and 'filling up' with mucus. If you are having trouble with this, that might be why...
@Consoneer
@Consoneer 6 жыл бұрын
THIS IS TRUE
@user-ek1ws6og2h
@user-ek1ws6og2h 6 жыл бұрын
I VAPE AND I CAN DO KARGYRAA AND KHOOMI
@TjoaWeiHan
@TjoaWeiHan 4 жыл бұрын
But google says smoking makes your voice deeper
@CedarPinesFieldGrove
@CedarPinesFieldGrove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I wasnt using the right part of my throat at first, your video helped me figure out exactly what part of the throat to use!
@koanikal
@koanikal 9 ай бұрын
Been doing death metal guttural vocals for decades, and only just now trying to learn throat singing, specifically the Kargyyra technique. A lot of the same basic fundamentals apply, so I have at least a little bit of a head start. Thanks for the tutorial!
@djouschra
@djouschra 8 ай бұрын
That's one of the best tutorial videos I've ever found in my life, thanks a lot! :)
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 3 ай бұрын
Many thanks
@jducharme9870
@jducharme9870 8 ай бұрын
Best tutorial on the net Ive seen.
@nils5482
@nils5482 5 жыл бұрын
For me, it doesn't drop like an octave. I can sing a solid C2-Bb1 but with this technique, i just get around a G1-F1.
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 15 жыл бұрын
Hi, my understanding, based upon medical books and videos is that there are folds in the throat below the vocal folds also. J
@productions-yu7hl
@productions-yu7hl 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thanks mate, other guys don't explain how to avoid throat irritation.
@Squatchapopalus
@Squatchapopalus 4 жыл бұрын
Ever since I discovered the HU, I've always wondered how they did it.
@emiliawojtera1096
@emiliawojtera1096 5 жыл бұрын
Best tutorial out there, before this all I achieved was subharmonic bass. Now I get something more similar to throat singing. It hurts like hell tho. Cheers Bogumil
@yuichituba
@yuichituba 12 жыл бұрын
VERY good brief tutorial on Khargyraa. Thanks for this. I've always wondered how people did this specific technique.
@Squatchapopalus
@Squatchapopalus 4 жыл бұрын
I've been trying this for a few weeks, about a month. I watched another video about throat singing saying to try moving my tongue around the find the "sweet spot" so I can create that particular sound. As I've practiced, I've tried combining those two techniques and my throat singing has definitely changed. Not only am I getting better at throat singing in both ways, it seems like my throat singing voice is noticeably different than others'.
@jasonistics
@jasonistics 13 жыл бұрын
I know this sounds weird but if you have an electric wood sander. Do some sanding and try to harmonize your voice with the sound vibrations that it produces. That's how I started.
@manusshya
@manusshya 3 жыл бұрын
Good video and thank you for explaining things in an easy and simple manner. One small tip which I came across in another Mongolian KZbin video: breathe from the abdomen using your diaphragm.
@lackingman8529
@lackingman8529 4 жыл бұрын
I first learned how to inhale scream/growl, and got curious how to throat sing. This was a big help!
@cheesebricks2241
@cheesebricks2241 2 жыл бұрын
I slowly learned how to do it thanks to this tutorial video, your explanation was great. thank you
@austinmiller1904
@austinmiller1904 12 жыл бұрын
I've been working on this, and once I could get to do it without forcing it or constricting my throat and just relaxed I realized that the pitch I was creating was several notes deeper than the original tones I was making.
@SportandChillChannel
@SportandChillChannel 2 жыл бұрын
after 9 years did u learn?
@531vilius
@531vilius 4 жыл бұрын
I've tried quite a few guides and this one I really started to feel it. Thank you!
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 4 жыл бұрын
Great. Also look at my courses on Udemy.
@Dan_K_Meme
@Dan_K_Meme 4 жыл бұрын
@@JonnyMcBoingBoing it hurts
@zloidooraque0
@zloidooraque0 6 күн бұрын
first, i learned kargyraa 20 years ago after reading a paragraph breaf explanation and way to get it. and then trying it on my way to bus stop. it took me 3 minutes. shortly after without getting too much mastery, just basic stuff, i was able to turn it on fast and consistently. then i learned khoomei (and sygyt). shortly after that my kargyraa was gone borderline nonexistent and barely resembling its former self. and it's yet to be reclaimed. i miss it so much.
@angelicbaby92
@angelicbaby92 11 жыл бұрын
WOW. I'm a growler in death metal and extreme metal and stuff and this is exactly EXACTLY the same techniques I use. Mine sounds way more distorted though. interesting!
@HenglishShogun
@HenglishShogun 5 жыл бұрын
AngelicBaby whats your band? Im learning to death metal growl, its pretty tight so far, but i came here looking to do gutteral growls so im assuming the technique for gutterals is different lol
@naejimba
@naejimba 5 жыл бұрын
@@HenglishShogun , I'm still trying to learn deathcore vocals and this technique (and monk chants) is how I found it. It is actually the same thing as a low, but with a few changes in the throat, mouth, lips, and tongue. If you want low gutteral sound, you really have to relax (biggest tip), open up your throat (super relaxed), and you should feel it vibrate down in your chest. One thing that helps is instead of an "oh" or "yo" sound, try "ooh" or try to slide it into an "ooh" sound using the following changes. Bring your jaw down low (maybe even a touch forward) and pretend like you have a ball in your mouth. Your lips should have a small hole and they are making a "duck face" where they stick out. Hopefully you can make this sound just by thinking of the syllable "ooh" and relaxing and opening up. After you have this, if you want more of a toilet bowl sound (what I think you are wanting?), simply bring the tip of your tongue up and touch either the back of your teeth or right where they meet your gums. It can be hard at first to change your tongue without changing anything else, and to find that sound on its own, so start with your normal low, think "ooh" while relaxing everything while you make the space in your mouth larger and move into duck face... then try to keep all of that while bringing the tongue up. If you don't want toilet bowl, keep your tongue down flat and it is just a matter of relaxing enough (oddly enough meditation and monk chants help for relaxing and breath control needed to project). One thing to keep in mind, you will be using a touch of fry most likely (most techniques use a bit of false chord and fry, just in varying degrees), and it is a great way to change the sound further, so you want the soft palette to resonate (the area I have to focus on to keep good tone) and I think of the sound moving from the back of my throat, all the way up and over and coming out at the top of my nose. I find it strange I focus on the soft palette resonating, but it can add a lot to the sound when getting super low, AND if you really put that soft palette resonation as far backwards as you can while using your nasal passages as well (crinkle up your nose to find it) you can get more of a "roar" like this (notice his nose crinkle up). kzbin.info/www/bejne/i369YqenpM92aLM I'm still at the point where I have to use different approaches to find the sounds, blend them together, and then relax it until it gets super low. I threw a lot at you, so if it doesn't make sense or you are struggling with any of that let me know and I'll do my best to explain. I think what AngelicBaby means when she said "Mine sounds way more distorted though" is due to the addition of fry resonating on the soft palette... playing with that can get a much harsher (and brutal) sound without having to push anything or use more air!! Relaxed with the least amount of effort relying on making things resonate is what you want to shoot for. The most fun part is when you understand that ALL of the different points that resonate (going back to monk chants "oh" "ah" "hue" and "eung") can be MIXED AND MATCHED! Combined with different placements of mouth, tongue, and lips that is a ton of sounds. Oh and "eung" chant in metal either feels like a forward placed "ee" or "en"... that last one is nasal cavities and you can find them just by humming. It was the hardest for me to find since I'm having trouble with highs (moar nasal needed in mix). I hope the ramblings of an insane man are of some help to you!
@deathisfreedom1442
@deathisfreedom1442 4 жыл бұрын
@@naejimba ​ HenglishShogun i wonder how many ppl came here from the Kardavox Academy
@deadNdivine12
@deadNdivine12 4 жыл бұрын
HenglishShogun I think she only does covers bud.
@angelicbaby92
@angelicbaby92 4 жыл бұрын
I just could never find a band but I have done originals too
@GioTrev_
@GioTrev_ 10 ай бұрын
The false folds are above the vocal folds
@CeaselessFish
@CeaselessFish 11 жыл бұрын
Just want to say that as for an instructional video. This one has helped me the most. Took me 3 days to push through the coughing but I've got it now. Many thanks. I'm really enjoying the khargyraa
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Roberts these videos have been completely replaced by my new online course with lots more content www.udemy.com/throat-singing-overtone-singing/?couponCode=FBdirectOT Use the coupon code for a discount!
@muchamang
@muchamang 12 жыл бұрын
Wow I got that really quickly. Helps to have already have good control over your vox.
@stein0niets
@stein0niets 3 жыл бұрын
this is a good explanation same way I learned it. you can also sing in it in a real limited range it sounds crazy, but take it easy in any case the irritation should stop and it should become real relaxed. Also it makes an insane amount of sound if you do it right so your neighbours will love you for it..
@SednaCommunications
@SednaCommunications 12 жыл бұрын
Best tutorial yet on youtube...incredibly simplified, yet very effective!
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 12 жыл бұрын
Sure. Once it becomes easy and you can hold it for a while it is great for altering consciousness.
@aeronautisch
@aeronautisch 4 жыл бұрын
not gonna lie.. i love to listen to throat singing. thanks for this video man. I'm gonna practice it and one day i'll tag you when i can sing properly for more than 5 seconds :) .
@kewllp
@kewllp 12 жыл бұрын
Very clear and easy to understand thank you. One thing that does not seem to be mentioned in any Khargyraa tutorials is the use of the tongue. Where should it sit and are you required to move it to change resonance like in other styles of Khoomei?
@seetclear8947
@seetclear8947 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing. It took me about 3 minutes to find the voice. 🙏
@balares
@balares 11 жыл бұрын
great tutorial, got it almost instantly!
@GrimTheCrow
@GrimTheCrow 11 жыл бұрын
I want to learn this because overtones have been soothing to me since I can remember and I can only imagine how it would feel to make those sounds by myself.
@vasmegyeball2171
@vasmegyeball2171 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man I watched every single explainer video on this and here I was finally able to produce the sound that totally feels correct.
@joewhiteside7434
@joewhiteside7434 3 жыл бұрын
It's a video from 2009. Everyone knows the older vids are the best lol.
@vasmegyeball2171
@vasmegyeball2171 3 жыл бұрын
@@joewhiteside7434 Correct!
@kireskrankerkindergarten
@kireskrankerkindergarten 3 жыл бұрын
Im here because I want to sound like a Dunmer
@Rexuhnt
@Rexuhnt 3 жыл бұрын
Ayy
@Markf805
@Markf805 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@antonrusak3207
@antonrusak3207 3 жыл бұрын
You like to dance close to the fire, don't you?
@cochayuyo1084
@cochayuyo1084 3 жыл бұрын
You n'wah
@Ommeta3764
@Ommeta3764 4 жыл бұрын
Have been attempting to throat sing like this for a long time and i shit you not this made me get the breakthrough. Thank you.
@gabberpietor
@gabberpietor 3 жыл бұрын
I did this in one try. Thanks for the fantastic descriptive video
@ramazancins
@ramazancins 5 жыл бұрын
when 3:06 just said "why am i living?"
@Teravenir
@Teravenir 6 жыл бұрын
thank you very very much sir as ive been having fun with this but never learned it and so was doing it wrong (felt it it my nose) so i was indeed hurting my throat and wasnt feeling good about it, now i can enjoy more! i just hope i didnt destroyed my vocal chords by doing this time to time since quite a long time^^ thanks!!
@Asatruction
@Asatruction 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video! As of now, it's my third day of intensively trying to learn khargyraa. What I've achieved so far is, that I'm pretty close to that motorcycle sound, but I'm not able to hold it at all, especially not with such richness as you can do it. I'm experiencing no scratchiness nor do I have to cough but I feel a little soreness after trying which fades after like 30 minutes or so. I've read this happens because my throat is not used to what it's doing, so I think I'm on the right way and not doing it "too" wrong. I'd really love to take your course on udemy, as I'm not only interested in Khargyraa but in any other Khöömei technique as well, but it's just straightforward too expensive for me at the moment. I will definitely book it later this year, but would sincerely appreciate your advice for now. I think my breathing and air pressuring is not right, so what do you think should I aim for?
@sylvainp4359
@sylvainp4359 7 жыл бұрын
It takes me only five minutes to produce the sound thank you very much it's awesome!
@jrmhrpr
@jrmhrpr 14 жыл бұрын
Do you think drinking a small amount of honey and water would help this? My throat starts to feel dry super quick. But I am getting it, which I am super psyched about. Thanks for the great video! =]
@fidrewe99
@fidrewe99 6 жыл бұрын
The false chords are above the vocal folds, not below and the vocal folds do not stop to vibrate during this technique.
@MikeTheDidgeman
@MikeTheDidgeman 12 жыл бұрын
It sounds so amazing and relaxing, but it costs some overcoming to do this^^
@emilbyberg103
@emilbyberg103 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, i tried the "clearing the throat" technique and, as he talked about lower false vocal, i moved the scratching thing below in my throat. Result, no throat singing but an unexpected vocal fry. I spent the day challenging friends to do a lower note than mine
@Taur622
@Taur622 12 жыл бұрын
How do I know if I'm getting it or just grunting/growling? Like, the feeling?
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 13 жыл бұрын
@Zenweaponry just takes time for everything to settle down - the vocal chords must back off right away so the sound production / vibration can occur lower down then work on sustain and diaphragmatic pressure to hold steady sound
@mcspongeicus
@mcspongeicus 10 жыл бұрын
this is a great video. nice, clear concise and to the point!
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 9 жыл бұрын
Kevin McNamara these videos have been completely replaced by my new online course with lots more content www.udemy.com/throat-singing-overtone-singing/?couponCode=FBdirectOT Use the coupon code for a discount!
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 13 жыл бұрын
nasal area is good for higher harmonics, deep sound comes from lower in the throat and down into the chest. Work on the relaxation of the vocal cords and try to engage the lower 'rumble'.
@user-ve9cs7ee6x
@user-ve9cs7ee6x 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome tutorial; I need help prolonging the sound.... I only have enough air for a second or two
@redactedcanceledcensored6890
@redactedcanceledcensored6890 8 жыл бұрын
same
@54321blader
@54321blader 8 жыл бұрын
Then you're probably just using a growl which is much more exhale than it is a production of sound
@cyanheskett9513
@cyanheskett9513 7 жыл бұрын
Play didgeridoo. You will learn deep breathing and circular breathing, increase your lung capacity, and you will learn to control the rate at which you release your breath.
@ldobehardcore
@ldobehardcore 11 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the size of your vocal tract (both its length and its diameter) and whether you can sort of slot into lower modes on the false vocal cords. The higher modes are easier for most people, and the lower modes are more difficult usually. I know some guys who can get into the same frequency as the pedal notes on a tuba. But it's exhausting to do that.
@Mrghostthunder21
@Mrghostthunder21 12 жыл бұрын
I recently just got intrested in kargyraa and I would like to learn it and this video helps alot
@thrashsis
@thrashsis 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for demonstration.... it's easy to learn
@UnitedAssassinRevolution
@UnitedAssassinRevolution 4 жыл бұрын
i want to learn this so badly and i'm trying really hard but i just don' get any progress. it just hurts my throat, my breath is gone within less than a few seconds and i can't get a single tone out.
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 4 жыл бұрын
Please try my online courses on Udemy as updated and easier to follow
@Charlie-pv3ui
@Charlie-pv3ui 4 жыл бұрын
With this video i learned throat singing in 2 days
@Grownbear
@Grownbear 12 жыл бұрын
that you so much for the tip. was having a hard time getting to the bottom of my vocal cords i know what you mean by feeling it move down your chest. your way of keeping your mouth closed and "clearing" your throat and holding it i had it down quickly. but so hold that my throat gets irritated. but practicing will solve this thanks again!
@prophetedubaroque5136
@prophetedubaroque5136 7 ай бұрын
I tried it many times but I can't seem to get it. I think I'm not too far but there is too much air in my voice.
@kickasscorm
@kickasscorm 5 жыл бұрын
Genius!! Fucking genius!!! By far the best and simplest method to date. I have been practicing for months incorrectly. I will subscribe to you based on this one video. Thank you so much dude!!!!
@ThePi314Man
@ThePi314Man 10 жыл бұрын
I use Tuvan throat singing. Isolating the vestibular folds is stronger and lower for me, but take a lot of breath so I can't sustain the notes for very long. I can competently nail a G0 (maybe as low as E0) doing this.
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 9 жыл бұрын
ThePi314Man these videos have been completely replaced by my new online course with lots more content www.udemy.com/throat-singing-overtone-singing/?couponCode=FBdirectOT Use the coupon code for a discount!
@joelwallenius2877
@joelwallenius2877 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like firebreathing technique.
@jahsinchu
@jahsinchu 14 жыл бұрын
i have had this sorted for years.. imitating the didgeridoo. have been trying to get my overtones sorted. i can get them... although they are quiet as, is there a trick to resonate them further?? it drives my mrs nuts practicing... but I love it! chea
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 11 жыл бұрын
:-) I'm just sharing what I know and some easy ways to start this off - find a teacher in your home country to go further.
@piercebruneau1284
@piercebruneau1284 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have any suggestions for new mexico (usa)
@TheRealAestuo
@TheRealAestuo 12 жыл бұрын
I practice on my way to work while walking or skating. I'm sure people are tripped out by it but like he said at the end It's really fun and addicting. I hardly notice that I'm doing it sometimes because it becomes akin to the whistle. Something people do randomly. Also I practice ॐ (Om) while laying on my back just before sleep. It helps loosen and align things up, making it easier. I haven't yet tried this while laying flat.. . Either way, I notice I've more range now after having practiced.
@ahmetkaraaslan8429
@ahmetkaraaslan8429 4 жыл бұрын
"kargara" means "gargle" in Turkish :D
@ahmetkaraaslan8429
@ahmetkaraaslan8429 4 жыл бұрын
@Ismail Karakaya Aslında Türkçedeki tüm /k-/ sesleri Oğuzcada /g-/ olduğu için öyle: Köz-Göz Körmek-görmek köl-göl hatta köylerde karın degil garın derler tamamen her K- ile başlıyan kelime G-'ye döner. O yüzden Kargara yazmak hiç yanlış değil bu sadece şive meselesi diye düşünüyorum
@Heksu77
@Heksu77 9 жыл бұрын
Took me quite a while to get started with this technique. I thought I was going to wrong direction, because I clearly felt the vibration above my vocal cords, not below as instructed in this video.
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 9 жыл бұрын
Heksu77 these videos have been completely replaced by my new online course with lots more content www.udemy.com/throat-singing-overtone-singing/?couponCode=FBdirectOT Use the coupon code for a discount!
@FirstnameLastname-bn4gv
@FirstnameLastname-bn4gv 8 жыл бұрын
The false vocal folds are above the true vocal chords, not below them.
@Yarenoglu
@Yarenoglu 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Turkic: khargyraa (Turkish: gargara) means to gargle. Because it sounds like you're gargling that's why this technique is called that :D
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 13 жыл бұрын
@JamesOsyris just take it slow and easy and you will acclimatise. Try warm tea gargle also.
@fflynnful
@fflynnful 12 жыл бұрын
Good tutorial. I got the voice subharmonic for a few seconds on the first try. I can see where it might take some practice. It bothers the dog a bit though!
@KaelfromTW
@KaelfromTW 12 жыл бұрын
Jeez christ i love u sooo much!!!! Gonna try this for the whole boring lonely hard labor working night!!!
@dftpunk
@dftpunk Жыл бұрын
One question though. You say that false vocal chords are below the true ones. But if we look at the anatomy pictures as well as the Laryngoscopic video, we can see clearly the opposite. The false vocal chords are above the true ones. Am I mistaken?
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 11 ай бұрын
Yes my mistake - quite an old video...
@juanfernandovazquezfleitas7909
@juanfernandovazquezfleitas7909 11 жыл бұрын
Pode usar as vogais A, E, I, O, U para producir diferentes armónicos (3’15’’) Olhe os rostros que o cara faze quando faze as diferentes vogais. É importante as expresoes pra melhorar na tecnica. (3’21’’) Demostraçao de Kargyraa mediante o uso de vogais (3’30’’) A vogai “O” é a mais baixa e se faze com boca pouco aberta (3’52’’). A vogai “I” é a mais alta e com boca mais aberta (4’01’’) Segunda demostraçao das vogais em Kargyraa (4’06’’)
@beatlemaniacforever
@beatlemaniacforever 12 жыл бұрын
After a few months, I finally got it going, almost better than my Sygyt, which I've spent almost 3 and a half years on.
@Jouwl
@Jouwl 11 жыл бұрын
I can't do cough-sounds without pain. What am I missing?
@VOST0K
@VOST0K 11 жыл бұрын
Just keep practicing. You'll get it eventually.
@Jonathonson
@Jonathonson 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh same, I’m still in pain
@helpme2401
@helpme2401 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jonathonson You just necro'd a 6 year thread wtf
@Dan_K_Meme
@Dan_K_Meme 4 жыл бұрын
@@helpme2401 lmao
@cartert7406
@cartert7406 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dan_K_Meme amazing
@matula7894
@matula7894 4 жыл бұрын
I have a very deep voice and cant seem to get the tones youre producing how do i fix this?
@JonnyMcBoingBoing
@JonnyMcBoingBoing 4 жыл бұрын
Just keep trying, you will be able to go even lower..
@UndertakerTripleSix
@UndertakerTripleSix 3 жыл бұрын
best explenation ever dude finally i can do it
@greendrummers
@greendrummers Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, thank you, i am practicing now!
@Iamaxelhuerta
@Iamaxelhuerta 5 жыл бұрын
This is like throat bass beatboxing technique??
@giovannibortoluzzi1384
@giovannibortoluzzi1384 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, the timbre can be very personal but the technique is the same for kargyraa, throat bass, and even sardinian throat singing
@ewauvwas
@ewauvwas 8 жыл бұрын
I think I am going for this instaid of the overtone which I can't get right and I LOOVE the low notes!!
@giuliobaldi9613
@giuliobaldi9613 5 жыл бұрын
Lot of fun and very addictive. You are great! Ahahaah
@No-qx7eb
@No-qx7eb 4 жыл бұрын
How do I get it to "go down"? It just stays up there and starts hurting. Is there any technique other than thinking it down?
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