Is Metaphor Refantazio The REAL Game of The Year? - Kinda Funny Games Daily 12.20.24

[@BLonsdale912]

I can't decide between Rebirth and Metaphor. Absolutely loved both for different reasons

[@NateTheToast]

It's got to be Rebirth without question.

[@fragr33f74]

I truly believe the haptics tech and the feeling of Astrobot are so underrated. Whenever I play the game, I spend so much time just playing around with random objects because of how brilliantly they capture so many different sensations.

[@thewhorocks515]

100% it's that secret sauce that takes it to the next level and makes it special.

[@Bermmc]

Thanks boys and gals for another fantastic year!

[@WilliamPatrickDelgadoJD]

I love the long intros

[@J4ck0fAll_Game5]

That is a great Xmas sweater

[@gumgumleobazooka]

Hunter by Hunter? Lmao nah the X is silent

[@ghenriquess1]

Gracias muchachos y que tengan una feliz navidad , con lo maximo

[@AdmiralCapybara]

I should finish Metaphor, i was going to but Path of Exile 2 got in the way.

[@veronicaletterstoo]

Keep the intros!!! It would just feel weird without them.

[@MRayGames]

Wish I loved metaphor, but i came away disliking more about that game than I liked. First time I've bought a game in years and regretted it. Astro bot was the best game this year (but rebirth was the best game in my heart)

[@johnmolloy1034]

Metaphor is game of the year for me

[@adamneumann248]

As is tradition, Metaphor could be phenomenal with a "Royal/Golden/Remake edition." Menu's can be streamlined, NG+, etc. I'm sure it's in the works.

[@StaleSavior]

Pretty sure the developers came out and said there won’t be a “definitive” version of metaphor

[@jermelpurse3018]

It’s already phenomenal. Don’t get me wrong when it gets the final release. It will be even better but that game really doesn’t deserve 9.5 perhaps a 10 it is that good. Perhaps one of the biggest problems is that some parts it gets a little hard.Other than that I don’t find anything wrong with the game.

[@ReaperHunter23]

18:51 I thought Imran just didn't like TLOU 2 as much as the rest of you 🤣

[@wandererking]

@GameOverGreggy When talking about a photo that is 3x5, how would you say that…?

[@adamASASJSDFKJEFKEJEKGE]

Metaphor is Goty easily has the best story this year

[@fearghalbarry7866]

Did they do a proper GOTY discussion this year or no?

[@Baytuh]

My personal goty is veilguard

[@Gareth_Muse]

Merry Christmas Kinda funny! 🎉

[@MG_Gambino]

Man, seeing metaphor as igns goty just comes off as weird to me. Im not trying to throw shade, but for the whole year, it just seemed like all they were talking about was either elden ring, final fantasy 7 and astro bot. Im almost taking this like, "whats your real pick now since you chose to fit in". Maybe ive become too jaded towards ign this year lol.

[@soulmustdie3631]

Dang, the FF7 disrespect has been insane

[@ohjay7612]

seriously

[@rudyramirez125]

Make that argument when the story is finished in another 7 years.

[@ohjay7612]

@@rudyramirez125 Its a trilogy. You dont need to wait for God of war 3 for example, no different than this

[@Pswayze23]

I have a strong feeling the devs will take this personally, and make part 3 the best game ever made.

[@LowSkillPlays]

It's deserved

[@JohnBurrell-mm2ot]

Just bought Dragon Age: The Veilguard and Metaphor Re Fantazio, stoked😄😄😄

[@ohjay7612]

I like Metaphor, I put it way over astro bot. But Rebirth is leagues better imo

[@thefreshtowel9815]

My favourite releases this year are: Space Marine 2 Dragons Dogma 2 Rougue Prince of Persia Prince of Persia and the Lost Crown Witchfire Path of Exile 2 Shadow of the Erdtree And Helldivers 2

[@joshuabarnett88]

Finding out about Imran's goty manipulation actually made me mad. So not in the spirit of the awards

[@maximilianmeyer6315]

What happened

[@David-uc6sg]

​@@maximilianmeyer6315He put LoU2 lower on his top 10 on purpose to give FF7R the edge for goty.

[@colin12684]

have to give more details

[@joshuabarnett88]

They said it on the show? He intentionally ranked tlou lower than other games, not because he didn't like it but just to make sure it didn't have enough points to win.

[@picto3]

FF7 Rebirth and Astro for me as well. Love all the content and everyone have a great holiday break. I still need to play Metaphor but I made it through the demo at least.

[@David-uc6sg]

The obvious KF GotY is Astro Bot.

[@thatdude21601]

End game content in Metaphor was tedious and dull. Enjoyed the game, but not goty for me.

[@AndrewB2189]

Weird title. Personally I only care about who wins at The Game Awards. There are way too many awards from different outlets and countries to pay attention to or remember

[@Hfhow]

If you should care about one then Game Awards is probably the worst one since they are the only jury that don't require that everyone who votes plays the nominees. If you should care about one then care about DICE it is the more important one.

[@AndrewB2189]

@Hfhow Only the peer panels at DICE are required to play the submissions to decide the nominees. The 30,000+ members who choose the winners are not

[@Hfhow]

I did not know that. That sucks. They do have a far better track record for GOTY though. Especially nominees(probably because they are done by the people who have to play the shortlisted games) I will never really give any credibility to the Game Awards again after nominating Outer Worlds and snubbing Outer Wilds. An absurd decision if you have played both. ​@@AndrewB2189

[@elcapitan2293]

Ff7 and astrobot are above metaphor

[@IsaacCle]

FF7 is probably the most boring game I played this year

[@SetsunaF916]

Lmao no.

[@elcapitan2293]

@SetsunaF916 lmao yes

[@SetsunaF916]

​@@elcapitan2293Astro Bot, maybe. Rebirth? Absolutely not. I like my stories to not be a convoluted mess.

[@sutekidane94]

@@SetsunaF916just because it goes over your head, doesn’t mean it’s convoluted.

[@draculathevampire934]

I think greg wants to fire him he doesnt fit kindafunny

[@stanco4ever]

Who's him?

[@SirKupoNut]

No Rebirth is.

[@mortecai222]

no Metaphor is

[@MrJechgo]

"Can't trust IGN"... Those jokers gave Sonic 3 a 6/10 all while stating that it,s better than the previous 2 movies... which are currently scored as "7/10". I know all 3 movies were reviewed by different people (who are still working there), but some consistentcy would be welcomed here.

[@marshall6113]

I just kinda fell off Metaphor. I think I’m near the end, but I just got a bit tired of the story. Felt like it just dragged on.

[@joezacc235]

Metaphor is a good game 8/10. It has to be one of the most overrated games in recent memory

[@thefreshtowel9815]

That's all I felt after the demo, fully confused where all the hype is coming from. I may finish it on after a heavy sale to experience the story but even right now with Steams holiday discount it's $70cdn which is way too much for me rn

[@Hfhow]

Absurd take. It's like the only big game this year to not be overrated.

[@last_gasp2152]

In what world is Metaphor over hyped!! Stick to crayons

[@void0921]

It is for alot of reasons. Breath of fresh air 🎉

[@basedplants]

It can be the PS3 game of the year.

[@Kyt2024]

Short answer? No

[@Hfhow]

Right answer. Yes, but it's only because there isn't really an obvious choice.

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

I think Astro Bot still edges out Metaphor slightly. However if you're going on pure quality, I would say the GOTY is Shadow of the Erdtree, but not many outlets are gonna pick it after all the discourse from people who were upset that a DLC was a better game than their favorite.

[@Hfhow]

What does Astro Bot do better Mario Odyssey? Or Bowser's Fury honestly would be more equivalent in length. Astro Bot is lovely, but calling it GOTY is ridiculous when it's not even a top 10 best 3D platformer.

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

@Hfhow I prefer it to Bowsers Fury. It isnt as good as Odyssey, but Odyssey didnt come out this year, so I dont think that really matters does it?

[@Hfhow]

Well the biggest gripe I can think of for Metaphor is that it isn't as good as Persona 5 Royal. And I would classify that as a solid gripe and a good reason for it to lose GOTY. But Astro Bot is not doing anything better than any other platformer. It's just a really good one. So I think that applies there too. I honestly think Balatro should win since it's the only game from this year that feels entirely unique. ​@@BasketCase-rr7tx

[@kheops101]

@Hfhow It is definitively in the Top 10 3D platformer. I'm a massive Mario fan and Astro Bot is definitively a GOTY contender from a pure objective perspective. It is fine to have different opinion.

[@Hfhow]

@kheops101 Is it though? Not better than Mario 64, Galaxy 1 and 2, 3D World, and Odyssey. Not better than Ratchet Rift Apart, Tools of Destruction, Crack in Time or Up Your Arsenal. Not better than Jak and Daxter or Jak 2. Not better than Psychonauts 2. Not better than Sly 2/3 Not better than Banjo Kazooie. Like I could keep going. But I don't understand how anyone could say it is better than any of those... They are objectively more interesting games.

[@NowakP]

I love Persona games, they're a huge chunk of my life and Metaphor is decent - it's good - but it's not a 90+ metacritic game. I don't know what happened during the review period, but I don't feel like Metaphor does anything better than P5. It has shortcomings in a number of areas and by trying to be "different" than Persona, it introduces problems to its own systems that have already been solved before. If this game came out for PS3 in 2014, it would have been an easy GOTY, but compared to other Atlus outings, I feel like it's somewhat of a regression. I hope they can really polish it up for M2, if that is made one day.

[@Hfhow]

Combat is leagues better and the story is definitely stronger. Would also say the companion characters and their stories are stronger.

[@MrForsar]

@Hfhow what’s better about the combat?

[@Hfhow]

@@MrForsar Is that a serious question? What isn't better about the combat. The combat in Persona 5 is really fun, but it borderline plays itself. Metaphor might have the greatest turn based combat system in any game ever.

[@MrForsar]

@ yes I’m seriously asking. What makes the combat system better? What did you specifically like better about it?

[@Greekanese31]

@@MrForsar As a veteran of Atlus games, I'll step in on how Metaphor improves the combat system of the SMT series. Persona games utilize the One More! system, which is a dumbed down version of the Press Turn system which was developed for SMTIII and has been innovated on dramatically with SMTV's improvements on the system, and Metaphor not only improves on that further but adds in even more elements that synergize well. The key differences are: in Persona each party member and enemy has one action, and if they down an enemy by hitting a weakness or crit you can get "one more" action, and if all the enemies are downed you can do a bunch of damage with an All-Out Attack. Having an attack blocked, absorbed, or repelled makes a character lose that action (though in later Persona games, if a multitarget attack hits one enemy's weakness but is blocked out by the other, you still get an extra action) and the same is true for enemies when they hit you. The One More! system is thus a very simplified version of Press Turn that weighs in favor of the player characters while keeping the symmetrical elements of the system. The basis of Metaphor's combat is the Press Turn system, which shares the same symmetry that is core to the One More! system in that typically the same rules apply to both the enemies and the player characters. For each round of combat, you get a Turn for each of your characters. Most of your actions will use that Turn, but you can get an extra use out of that Turn by: passing, hitting an enemy's weakness, or critting. These will convert your Turn into what we call a Half-Turn, which is all the same as a normal Turn, except it will be spent at the end of your action. So basically, you have an amount of Turns each round of combat equal to double your Turns if you play perfectly, like in One More! except with a bit more inherent flexibility. The key differences, however, come with the penalties: an enemy dodging an attack costs two Turns (Half-Turns are treated as Turns for the purposes of losing them), and an enemy blocking, absorbing, or repelling your attack immediately ends the turn. So ultimately, the Press Turn system rewards exploiting opponent's weakness and covering yours, and also rewards aggression and offense generally (as healing cannot gain extra Half Turns). Similarly, Press Turn is extremely dynamic especially when encounters are designed around it, or you get a particularly unlucky miss and things begin to snowball out of control. Press Turn is a punishing system that rewards player knowledge and ability to both come in with defined and strong plans but also to adapt on the fly when situations turn sour, and it gives the tools to be able to recover from unlucky moments or big mistakes. That covers the system as it was before Metaphor. Metaphor adds two main aspects to combat: a front row and back row distinction (a la Pre-PS Final Fantasies) which rewards proper positioning of characters to either increase your offense or defenses, and Synergy attacks where characters can pool their Turns to do unique and potentially powerful skills. These introduce an important all-in element of push and pull, where you are being attack inefficient (multiple Turns spent on a single attack) but that can situationally be important based on the power of the utilized skills, but if you *miss* you waste even more resources. In the context of the rest of the game's systems, the customizability afforded to every party member (usually in Persona this is only afforded to the protagonist character) increases the depth of the possible Synergy combinations, and the rows need to be properly utilized based on class. Similarly a lot of encounters will attack only certain rows, encouraging dynamic switching of the rows on the fly. With those added elements on top of, what is already the greatest combat system in RPGs, Press Turn is elevated even further in Metaphor

[@DaBuffNerd]

Astrobot is Super Mario with a Sony skin. 😂

[@OfficialCrowMauler]

They don’t play anything alike. We get it, though: you’re mad that Xbox got pretty much 0 awards at the Keighley’s.

[@DaBuffNerd]

@OfficialCrowMauler They don't play anything alike... if you don't count the mechanics or gameplay from Mario 😂 No awards for Xbox? Guess you didn't watch the show? 😂

[@OfficialCrowMauler]

@ Then explain it. The burden of proof lies solely with the bearer of the claim. And I watched the show. Your emojis won’t save you from your useless talking points.

[@DaBuffNerd]

@OfficialCrowMauler The dev excepting the award even credited Nintendo friend. 😂 Might want to give it another watch.

[@OfficialCrowMauler]

@ Accepted* Also, I’m guessing you struggle with listening comprehension if you believe that he was insinuating something other than an appreciation for that which came before. Give your head a wobble.

[@portionsforcam]

Metaphor is overrated

[@last_gasp2152]

Astro Bot… was alright..

[@sithhunter965]

ign gave a runner up Goty to Dragon age veilguard. so their opinions have never meant less.

[@deadweightxiv7937]

Metaphor, P3R (it's a remake tho), Astro, then Yakuza 8 (Story sucked tho) for me. Struggling to finish Rebirth cuz I haven't liked most of it.

[@_JohnC_]

Still need to play metaphor and a few other games but for me there is no #1/GotY this year I think this was a pretty weak year for new games. None of them really stuck with me but again there are still games I have yet to play

[@elcapitan2293]

Political climate in the real world should have nothing to do with goty. Yes, politics in gaming is and always will be a part of gaming, but what just so happens to be going on in the world, shouldn't matter t9 what's goty. Also, for them to preface it with "no matter when it came out during the year", means they know there's a recency bias

[@TheGoblinHub.]

Jesus your reading comprehension is terrible

[@stanco4ever]

Agreed to an extent, BUT I think games with a thematic message and are trying to say something do deserve extra points. Same as books, movies, etc. The problem with this nowadays is the messages are too political in the left vs right sense, rather than saying something deeper about humanity, morality, etc.

[@elcapitan2293]

@stanco4ever i can see that. But ff7 has always been about about the environment and evil corporation.