Is the new 2025 Toyota Camry as GOOD as a Lexus? You'll be surprised...

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Kirk Kreifels

Kirk Kreifels

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@Kevin-zj7mg
@Kevin-zj7mg 4 ай бұрын
I test drove the 25 camry THEN the 24 ESh. Just bought the ESh. I couldn't fit in the back of the Camry and I thought the build quality felt cheap. I like the backseats fold down but I don't use my sedan as a truck. Sound system was subpar. Interior plastic was loose like it was a power wheels. Ride was zippy but bumpy. My ESh just feels smooth, and I LOVE driving it. The 25 Camry is a Jack of all trades, master of none -- a good car for MOST, perhaps the best value pick of all the sedans, but it isn't a luxury car. Neither is the accord for that matter.
@seanh2390
@seanh2390 4 ай бұрын
I would probably get the ES hybrid too. Front headroom seems to be extra tight for me in the new Camry as well.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
@@seanh2390just lower the seat - I’m 6’5” and bought the 25 Camry for my partner on July 2nd and I have enough head room.
@Big.W.
@Big.W. 4 ай бұрын
The es has less headroom than the Camry
@peterschleh9382
@peterschleh9382 3 ай бұрын
Ok, fine, but you probably paid a whole lot more for your Lexus. I am approaching 70. I loved the V6 however the times are a'changin and the huge improvement in gas mileage makes more sense on a retirement income. Gasoline prices are only going to get higher over time. I had my super fast car life experiences, now it's time to find a great compromise. I purchased this last week and have waited 3 weeks for delivery. I suspect these vehicles will be in even more demand soon. One last thing: stop generalizing about brand dealerships- I just had a great Lexus-type experience at a Toyota shop. Previous vehicle Genesis G80 5.0 at a Genesis-only dealership. Be careful about broad assumptions.
@Kevin-zj7mg
@Kevin-zj7mg 3 ай бұрын
@@peterschleh9382 that's why i bought the ESh I avg 45mpg using the hybrid camry drivetrain. Eventually will convert to an e-car just a matter of time and improvement in battery tech.
@andrewgus8763
@andrewgus8763 4 ай бұрын
You can’t compare this to a Lexus ES, just because it’s a sedan with similar engine choices doesn’t mean it’s a Camry. The ES is a longer and bigger car with a much quieter interior and a smoother ride.
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct My friend. KIRK has to be saying this to create drama here otherwise come on.
@djplonghead5403
@djplonghead5403 4 ай бұрын
Don’t forget about the windows that slow down. Best feature in my opinion.
@igeekone
@igeekone 4 ай бұрын
True, the ES was always based on the Avalon platform. As you mentioned, it's a much bigger car to the Camry.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
Both Toyota products
@avdp9095
@avdp9095 4 ай бұрын
​@@2004cyrusRRcis Bmw product
@neonreign2988
@neonreign2988 4 ай бұрын
I love both the Camry and ES, but there are differences in the build quality, refinement, and sound insulation within the cabin. However, from the consensus I've heard, Toyota did a solid job with the noise reduction (from both wind and road), especially in the XSE trim. No doubt this generation of Camry will lure a lot of people from the economical and luxury sedan market (maybe even some potential SUV buyers as well, given the amount of room and trunk space it has), I'm quite impressed with it (though I'm sad about the V6 and naturally aspirated engines being precluded from future lineups). I have no doubts that this platform will be very reliable, Toyota has perfected the hybrid platform. My expectations for this generation honestly weren't that high, but Toyota really outdid themselves with the amount of effort they put into it.
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
Es is a proper luxury sedan and Camry is a excellent class leading mid size sedan. Two cars way different. Sadly kirk seems to forget that
@cychang3475
@cychang3475 4 ай бұрын
Lexus ES and Camry are both built in Kentucky.
@jonathanratliff4780
@jonathanratliff4780 2 ай бұрын
@@cychang3475 Soon to change as the next gen ES coming out soon is going back to Japan production
@user-FTRU6GJ
@user-FTRU6GJ 4 ай бұрын
I think used ES300h with 10k-20k miles in the low to mid $30k range is still a better buy
@avdp9095
@avdp9095 4 ай бұрын
True
@double__de7387
@double__de7387 4 ай бұрын
At that 30k range just buy a regular SE Camry hybrid then
@avdp9095
@avdp9095 4 ай бұрын
@@double__de7387 we have a Lexus ES, European spec. Magnificent car, regarding build quality, materials, sound insulation etc etc, far, far, far better than a Camry. You cann't compare the two.
@user-FTRU6GJ
@user-FTRU6GJ 4 ай бұрын
@@double__de7387 ES is just a better car overall. I’ve seen a few new camrys and they look exactly like the old one. I couldn’t spend 30k+ on camry
@double__de7387
@double__de7387 4 ай бұрын
@@user-FTRU6GJI worked for Toyota and Lexus for over 10 years I get what you're saying but on average you pay 10K more materials as in terms of making the seats better, better interior and the softer ride I agree. But the average person to pay 10k for the same vehicle it's too much. If you're buying the gas es with the V6 hands down hybrid you've lost before you start.
@jonathanratliff4780
@jonathanratliff4780 4 ай бұрын
This is the best review of Camry I’ve seen yet Kirk and comparing it to an ES Lexus is especially timely and appropriate. Makes me wonder how good the next gen ES will be. Thank you for this my friend all the work you do!
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
Upcoming ES will be fantastic without a question.
@Billybobthor
@Billybobthor 4 ай бұрын
8:24 Thank you for putting extra comments on the screen during the video. It’s very helpful for when you forgot something you wanted to say or misspoke. It’s a pet peeve of mine when the car reviewer gets the information wrong. Which happens quite often. Especially on new car models.
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see what Lexus does with the all new ES model 2026.
@niuhuskieguy
@niuhuskieguy 4 ай бұрын
I think that is the issue with this comparison. It appears to be based off the current generation ES. This would have been better served if he waited until the next gen ES was out.
@bahrahme
@bahrahme 4 ай бұрын
Now ES will be much more expensive....
@a426108
@a426108 4 ай бұрын
@@bahrahme Indeed.
@Big.W.
@Big.W. 4 ай бұрын
Maybe they’ll do an ES Prime before a Camry prime
@carlosponchio1869
@carlosponchio1869 3 ай бұрын
Prices will go up, up and away.
@gilbertocolorni
@gilbertocolorni 4 ай бұрын
Why nobody never mention an important difference between standard and premium brands: quality of the carpet. Premiums has thick high quality carpet even on trunk, meanwhile standard brands has cheap low quality lining... and for me this makes all the difference!
@DRBG444
@DRBG444 4 ай бұрын
Some of us in winter climates would rather not think about the carpet and just immediately add the all weather mats, but good point
@JCVACCARO
@JCVACCARO 4 ай бұрын
I own a 21 Camry SXE V6. 48,000 miles and not a glitch. I don't know about the new Camry but my brother just traded his 23 Charger Scat Pack wide body for a Lexus IS500. There is no comparison. The charger is quicker off the line but the Lexus 5.0 screams. The build quality is impeccable.
@JCVACCARO
@JCVACCARO 4 ай бұрын
​@@naveenthemachineHere's some good advice. Hemi Mopars are awesome but if you want to buy one absolutely stay away from a 22-23 and you will avoid some very high stress levels.
@dtlusk24
@dtlusk24 4 ай бұрын
Lol 40k plus isn't much to worry about. My 2017 camry xle has 210,000 miles and it runs flawlessly. Looks mint inside and smooth as silk at idle. Your in great shape for not spending much cash on repairs enjoy
@JCVACCARO
@JCVACCARO 4 ай бұрын
@@naveenthemachine Thanks to Stellantis's cost cutting. Nope. It's all out there for everyone to see. I love Mopar. I own an 18 Challenger Hellcat with no problems but only 14,000 miles. My brother's Charger Scat Pack had a horrible dash rattle that never got fixed, an oil pan leak, two infotainment glitches and an upper control arm replacement. Stellantis cost cutting ruined these cars. The IS500 is way better for build quality.
@LoneWolfSparty
@LoneWolfSparty 4 ай бұрын
​@@naveenthemachineare you really comparing a decade old platform to something more modern? Seriously?
@lrod312
@lrod312 4 ай бұрын
I own a 500 i’d say it’s a lot quicker from a roll idk if it’s faster than a Charger but definitely feels different than getting it off the line. I think performance-wise, it’s a 392 competitor anyway.
@jeretso
@jeretso 4 ай бұрын
Baby did not wake up when you closed the hood. Sound insulation is good
@europec2082
@europec2082 4 ай бұрын
he's talking loud so it doesn't matter lol
@Trades46
@Trades46 4 ай бұрын
The standard hybrid powertrain is a welcome addition to the Camry - the base 2.5L gas just feels a little rough and Toyota does hybrids so well it makes no sense not to go with the hybrid. Granted the ES would likely be even more refined to make up the price tag difference, but the Camry is the value king.
@floggyWM1
@floggyWM1 4 ай бұрын
at over 40k, its really not a value.
@trainsandlocomotives
@trainsandlocomotives 4 ай бұрын
@@floggyWM1that’s inflation. It’s still a value especially after it’s paid off. My 2020 runs vary cheap. It only costs me $250 per month in gas and insurance. Makes it vary hard to get rid of and it doesn’t make sense to get rid of it.
@alvd8511
@alvd8511 4 ай бұрын
I test drove both and let be say this, Camry is not Lexus. ES300H felt a lot better I terms of luxury, seat comfort, quietness, and overall level of refinement. In fact, the first thing I noticed was hard were the seats in the Camry. Honestly, for $42K I’d get a slightly used Lexus ES300h
@4af
@4af 4 ай бұрын
You didn't drive the 2025 Camry LE. That is the Camry model that smothers the bumps and has ES level of road and tire noise. For only 30K instead of 44K
@trainsandlocomotives
@trainsandlocomotives 4 ай бұрын
@@4afwhen buying a Toyota or Lexus, I recommend only buying the top trim level if you’re going to keep it for a long time. I think you’ll get more enjoyment out of it and it’s less of a reason to get rid of it.
@Heyitsyourfriendrobert
@Heyitsyourfriendrobert 2 ай бұрын
Yes it is, its BETTER
@Heyitsyourfriendrobert
@Heyitsyourfriendrobert 2 ай бұрын
Seats are nice, feels very nice and who wants fluffy seats not me, It is Perfect!
@mauriciogarcia4190
@mauriciogarcia4190 4 ай бұрын
I love how so many people here are bashing on Kirk as if they have ANY comparable experience… (just because you drove 1 Camry and an ES ONCE doesn’t mean you’re an expert lol) I think this is a very useful and valid video and it makes me glad to see that the Camry is such a solid choice rn. I can’t wait to see what the 26 ES has in store (maybe a slightly more powerful 5th gen hybrid system?)
@Hschlick84
@Hschlick84 4 ай бұрын
Sharp looking sedan. This makes the Altima look really cheap in comparison.
@fredjemal3689
@fredjemal3689 2 ай бұрын
I actually feel the Altima SR Premium AWD offers better value.
@bornWinnipeg
@bornWinnipeg 4 ай бұрын
i drove toyota and lexus but lexus is on another level guys
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
Agree
@harrys5013
@harrys5013 4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@maruf7956
@maruf7956 4 ай бұрын
Another level how
@Big.W.
@Big.W. 4 ай бұрын
@@maruf7956the Camry helps you save money while the Lexus helps you spend some of that money
@Heyitsyourfriendrobert
@Heyitsyourfriendrobert 2 ай бұрын
Nope
@johanhermida6505
@johanhermida6505 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! Yes, I have an LE 25 and is missing the energy flow monitor as you mentioned. Odd thing is that the owners manual says (p114) that you can see the energy Flow monitor on the multimedia screen not only on the digital cluster gauges. I think they didn't include at the very last minute. Hopefully, Toyota will update this.
@zmir813
@zmir813 4 ай бұрын
In terms of features, yes, the new Camry has just as much as the Lexus. But if you care about the badge and ultimate comfort and prestige feeling, then it’s always going to be Lexus. My 10-year-old ES 350 still feels soft, smooth and butter, compared to a Camry around the same age.
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
Es is a proper luxury sedan and miles better than any Camry from all levels. There is a New gen es coming anyway
@zmir813
@zmir813 4 ай бұрын
@@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl yes I believe that’s what Iwas implying. ES is far more luxurious
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
@@zmir813 👍
@dsdddsd4543we
@dsdddsd4543we 4 ай бұрын
Toyota has moved up-market. Reliability has pushed their brand higher. They are separating themselves from Kia, Hyundai, and Honda. It is an interesting move as Lexus will also have to improve to keep selling in the premium category.
@kermit1
@kermit1 4 ай бұрын
Tell that to new Tunda owners who’s engines are exploding
@jonathanratliff4780
@jonathanratliff4780 4 ай бұрын
@@kermit1 it’s about time to let it go nothing with a manufacturer stays forever they’ve had problems in the past as has every auto manufacture and they will get it fixed don’t be so obsessed lol
@brocklanders6969
@brocklanders6969 4 ай бұрын
No better than Honda, just a higher price.
@jonathanratliff4780
@jonathanratliff4780 4 ай бұрын
@@brocklanders6969 break down here your assertion please
@fredjemal3689
@fredjemal3689 2 ай бұрын
I agree , much rather a Toyota vs a Kia or Hyundai. Can’t beat Toyota/Lexus quality. Although I do love the Accord as well.
@escheidl
@escheidl 4 ай бұрын
It's nice that Toyota is sharing so much Lexus refinement with the Camry. That will only help keep it head and shoulders above the competition. But a Lexus person is never going to be happy with a Camry. It's just not even in the same league. I "personally" have no need to be in that league and would much prefer the Camry. Just the fact that the rear seat doesn't fold down in the ES prevents me from even being remotely interested in one. A Lexus person would just bring the GX 460 if they need the rear seat to fold down. I don't have options like that at my fingertips. In fact, if Toyota would introduce the Camry in a proper wagon form like the ones they used to sell in the 80's & 90's, I would MUCH prefer the Camry over the Lexus ESh. Especially if they made it available in the base LE trim and it could be purchased for say $3k more than the base sedan. I'd be all over it. But as they say, "different strokes for different folks."
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 4 ай бұрын
I rode for 40 minutes in a brand new Grand Highlander yesterday on mostly freeway and although it was a nice ride with a nice captain seat and leg room the NVH and bounciness of the suspension was off putting. I normally drive a 2019 Altima and people forget what makes Sedans good, it is their ride quality. They just float over road imperfections where something like an SUV is going to be taught and bouncy comparably.
@Shabnation
@Shabnation 4 ай бұрын
They are completely different tbh and the ES win all day everyday .
@thomasjohn6041
@thomasjohn6041 4 ай бұрын
What’s completely different? Take the 24’ Camry v6 and the Lexus. Both fwd. both v6. Around the same size. Nothing completely different.
@Shabnation
@Shabnation 4 ай бұрын
The quality in the materials are much different , and if you look underneath both cars you will see differences in materials . The Camry v6 is a excellent car it’s just not the same as the ES , your argument would me more valid let’s say if the Toyota kept the Avalon which the ES is based off of
@seethingsclearlyawaken3424
@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 4 ай бұрын
I like the 2025 Camry XSE, but, I absolutely hate the full glass roof! Here is my problem with that. There is a $1300 up charge for the full glass roof, which is fine if that's what you want. However, I want the XSE, but I DO NOT WANT THAT GLASS ROOF!!! Try to find a 2025 Camry XSE without a full-glass roof. You can't find one, so you are forced into paying $1300 for something you hate and would never want. I have also heard the full glass roofs on the 2025 Camrys have issues with breakage. Yes, they will self-destruct on their own. At least, that is what I've heard on YOU-tube videos and one local Toyota dealership from a friend that is a Toyota sales-person. Yes, I know there are plenty S.E. models with solid metal roofs, but I want an XSE with a solid roof. Thanks. If anyone knows or has found any 2025 XSE Camrys WITHOUT a glass-roof or sunroof, please reply. Wake up Toyota!
@threadoflife
@threadoflife 4 ай бұрын
I just drove 2 without it and want it lol they’re out there for sure 👍
@threadoflife
@threadoflife 4 ай бұрын
Camelback Toyota in Arizona has one right now
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 ай бұрын
Kirk, In select markets where it is available, I hear the Camry LE AWD is the one to get. The 2024 Camry may be the best one since the days of the double rear wiper Camry wagon 😉😉
@Marcus-id5ur
@Marcus-id5ur 4 ай бұрын
Picked mine up last week.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 ай бұрын
@@Marcus-id5ur 👍
@rileypart1
@rileypart1 4 ай бұрын
I’m sticking with Lexus
@jonathanratliff4780
@jonathanratliff4780 4 ай бұрын
@@rileypart1 agreed!!
@shawnbl2048
@shawnbl2048 4 ай бұрын
I would love to get the ES300H but I put on tons of milage on my daily driver. I will lose out on maintenance. Carmy cheap to maintain.
@Zeyek1
@Zeyek1 4 ай бұрын
give me a dollar every time you say "lexus" in this video
@dannygonxalez9011
@dannygonxalez9011 4 ай бұрын
this should be a drinking game
@baldygrey2779
@baldygrey2779 4 ай бұрын
OUT OF OFFICE: Thank you for your comment. I'm currently passed out on the floor playing a KZbin drinking game. I will respond to your message when I regain consciousness.
@4af
@4af 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the objective, honest review. The car should be a sales hit since it offers a Lexus-like driving experience, proven reliability from the carried over hybrid powertrain and an affordable price.
@RS-qz6by
@RS-qz6by 4 ай бұрын
This is a great video thank you sir! I am getting my 2025 Camry LE w/ convenience package very soon I can't wait!! Best part is I got for 29k OTD!
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
Right on! Great pick!
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
I bought a new Camry on July 2nd and I’m extremely pleased and happy with it.
@fallguy4209
@fallguy4209 4 ай бұрын
I prefer a prop rod it’s not cost cutting. It’s actually reliable and you won’t have to replace it or worry about it slamming on your head
@williamepstein4837
@williamepstein4837 2 ай бұрын
I ordered my 2025 Camry XSE and picked it up in July. It is pretty much loaded except i didn't get the 360 back up camera. Love the HUD though. The heavy metal is the color to get, the better wheels match it perfectly. It was a major upgrade from my Chrysler 200S ! About the same zip in sport mode and more than double the gas milage. Also much quieter with the insulated glass. It has all wheel drive also. Hopefully will not have the problems my 200 had, we will see!
@nickchandler4334
@nickchandler4334 4 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching since you worked at Lexus! Sometimes I miss all of the Lexus reviews lol
@Sossaup
@Sossaup 4 ай бұрын
Those rims look good as hell!!
@don_kandon6006
@don_kandon6006 4 ай бұрын
when you say it drives the same as es in terms of quiet and smooth, are you talking base es, or ultra luxury es? thanks for the content.
@cloudypac
@cloudypac 4 ай бұрын
As always great content, thanks for sharing!
@shawn1869
@shawn1869 4 ай бұрын
Test drove a brand new Camry XLE and then test drove a Lexus 2021 ES 300h... Decided on the used Lexus ES 300h with 32k miles and bought it 35k out the door. The comfort, quiet ride, smoothness and refinement is not even close. Camry just felt too cramped especially in the back seat.
@hoderharris
@hoderharris 4 ай бұрын
Nah, will stick with my 2020 es....6 cylinder bullet proof engine, better interior, quieter , better suspension and plusher ride. Toyota execs are not dumb, they would never allow the Camry to be that similar to their Lexus es 350 product. Manufacturers are very aware of keeping higher end vehicles from.being cannibalized by their mid tier products.
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
KIRK sometimes really say some funny stuff
@lionintu
@lionintu 4 ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of their interface with the infotainment, the mouse thing. But you've already gotten used to it I'm sure
@mikeanthony706
@mikeanthony706 4 ай бұрын
@hoderharris dude, you're correct. don't fall for the nonsensical ES comparison with Camry
@Heyitsyourfriendrobert
@Heyitsyourfriendrobert 2 ай бұрын
I bought one, XSE Premium plus package pear white $41,800 Truly a amazing Ride
@joshuabrown3190
@joshuabrown3190 4 ай бұрын
Looking at getting a Camry. Really loved your review.
@timjudshore6907
@timjudshore6907 4 ай бұрын
Camry is outstanding
@dtlusk24
@dtlusk24 4 ай бұрын
Camry is great car but service experience, craftsmanship and warranty are better by far at the big L vs yota. My toyota dealership experience every time i go to the various ones in dc area is a pure letdown every time. Get what you pay for still holds up
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
Service your Toyota at Lexus it costs the same
@dtlusk24
@dtlusk24 4 ай бұрын
@KirkKreifels our lex dealers cost more from my experience. But the level of people skills and attitudes are far better. It's just 2 diff worlds as far as ownership goes.
@Shabnation
@Shabnation 4 ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels uhhh no they don’t cost the same lol , they use the same parts but Lexus definitely charges more for service I work in service I know this this for a fact
@patwickgriff
@patwickgriff 4 ай бұрын
I plan on getting the 2025 Camry LE FWD. Just test drove one last weekend and was very impressed.
@bikemmm6167
@bikemmm6167 4 ай бұрын
Love your videos, keep it up Kirk
@Markus-dx9oy
@Markus-dx9oy Ай бұрын
Lexus ist das Luxus Auto für höchste Ansprüche. Der Toyota ist eine sehr gute Alternative. Beide fahren Jahrelang ohne den Besitzer im Stich zu lassen. Toyota/Lexus sind Autos die man empfehlen kann.
@JJustinXu
@JJustinXu 4 ай бұрын
The Camry is so beautiful and efficient!!!
@CCANGEL333
@CCANGEL333 4 ай бұрын
That blue is nice on the car.
@cervanteforfun1864
@cervanteforfun1864 4 ай бұрын
When it comes to the sedans Lexus is behind on the tech side but the styling on those Lexus sedans is so beautiful.
@mikeanthony706
@mikeanthony706 4 ай бұрын
Kirk and his hyper obsession with the ES and Camry comparison. I don't get it, but at this point, enough said. Folks, do your own research
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
You are right my friend. KIRK is has gone a bit mad . I really think he is saying these things to create drama in this comment section . otherwise come on
@les2997
@les2997 4 ай бұрын
I have a loaded 2022 Camry XSE 4-cylinder. The ride is very firm (even harsh) especially for rear seat passengers. Did they improve the ride quality? Perhaps the XLE model would be better for me?
@dfeigal
@dfeigal 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2025 XLE and the ride is very smooth. Can't speak to the XSE or SE as they have sport tuned suspension which could be different
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
So I bought this 2025 Camry on July 2nd. I have opened the panoramic roof 4x and today I decided to look into the mechanics of the roof when opened, while I was detailing the car after it rained. I was shocked to find that the fabric which is exposed because it’s the headliner that comes up and wraps below the sunshade- anyways the fabric is drastically torn and ripped and coming apart - so I took photos and I’m taking the Camry to service department tomorrow. I can’t imagine them repairing the torn areas on both front corners so I guess I’ll be getting a new headliner. Hard to imagine it not happening again without a fix.
@OtherWorldm
@OtherWorldm 4 ай бұрын
42k budget car? I think I’ll stick with my old car because this is crazy.
@Jazz16-we1qc
@Jazz16-we1qc Күн бұрын
The LE is $29k plus tax and title. And it's got the softest ride of all of them, and still ultra quiet. I'm getting one soon. Love its 16-inch wheels!
@ExtraSubtle
@ExtraSubtle 4 ай бұрын
Mark Levinson stereo with special low noise wheels? The Camry can't match that.
@rockygambina312
@rockygambina312 4 ай бұрын
Love the review has an infant car seat 🫡
@trainsandlocomotives
@trainsandlocomotives 4 ай бұрын
I have a paid off Camry Hybrid and it runs so cheap that it’s hard to get rid of. It costs me $250 per month to drive 27 miles to work. ($250 in Gas and Insurance). It’s also reliable. I like to say it runs “Standard Issue” because you get in and drive without thinking about gas prices. When you get into a military vehicle, you don’t think about how much it costs to run. You just get in, drive and worry about other things.
@jamesrogers8201
@jamesrogers8201 3 ай бұрын
Drove both. The premium for the Lexus was not worth the few differences between the two. The Camry rode very well, very quiet inside. The audio system's sound quality depends on the types of files you are playing. Sirius vs. high-quality MP3, there is a detectable difference. Also, the MPG is pretty good.
@Billybobthor
@Billybobthor 4 ай бұрын
I looked it up on the Toyota website and it says for a 2025 Toyota Camry Hybrid the drive connect subscription fee is $15/month.
@DRBG444
@DRBG444 4 ай бұрын
Just reserved my XSE in Wind Chill Pearl and Black all leather interior EEEEE!!! SO EXCITED! Thanks for the content as usual, Kirk! - edit, saw one IRL yesterday and even the dash materials are real leather
@mikej238
@mikej238 4 ай бұрын
boooooooring black interior
@DRBG444
@DRBG444 4 ай бұрын
@@mikej238 haha its all leather and no one likes red irl its just for going to Costco lol
@mikej238
@mikej238 4 ай бұрын
@@DRBG444 fake leather
@DRBG444
@DRBG444 4 ай бұрын
​@@mikej238 go check one out 🤣
@DRBG444
@DRBG444 4 ай бұрын
@@mikej238 LOL XSEs have real leather- check out the spec sheet or see one in person, it's soooo good! The red would not look this good if it was softex
@Offensively-normal
@Offensively-normal 4 ай бұрын
I think Lane keep and adaptive Cruze work together to mimic traffic jam. For the most part anyway.
@thomasstorrs6345
@thomasstorrs6345 4 ай бұрын
42k for a camry? This is crazy.
@LoneWolfSparty
@LoneWolfSparty 4 ай бұрын
It's essentially fully loaded or close to it at that point. (Barring any TRD or any potential GR Camry model)
@Hschlick84
@Hschlick84 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, pricy. Time for me to get into the trades and make more money.
@eruptsrek2275
@eruptsrek2275 4 ай бұрын
Paid 35.4 otd for mine xse premium
@mrc2165
@mrc2165 4 ай бұрын
It is. We got one in 2018, SE with moonroof for a little over $23k out the door
@andrewgus8763
@andrewgus8763 4 ай бұрын
I bought my Camry LE brand new in 2021 for $23K OTD. Same base LE now starts at $29K + taxes and fees, and that’s without the dealer markups...
@webcomment8895
@webcomment8895 4 ай бұрын
Doesn’t AWD only add 7HP and only kick in when wheel spin is detected at the front wheels?
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@JF-xq6fr
@JF-xq6fr 4 ай бұрын
I want this as a wagon in an AWD LE trim, since the Signia has 4th generation hybrid mechanicals and is priced too high IMO. If Subaru can sell 200k Outbacks per year, Toyota can sell plenty of Camry wagons if they would market it properly and make it look right.
@ToyotaChrisWI
@ToyotaChrisWI 4 ай бұрын
Remote connect and cloud based navigation is paired together for $15 per month, not a yearly subscription, which is anywhere from 15-25 less than the competition because all new gen Toyota systems get a 10 year free trial of safety connect which is roadside, stolen vehicle and emergency assistance.
@HumperMKB
@HumperMKB 4 ай бұрын
They walk instead of jump Left foot right foot We are all for the better that Toyota is so good now. Tasteful design, excellent quality. But those are not thin panel gap, they are consistent and normal size
@MarvinNicholson
@MarvinNicholson 4 күн бұрын
Hello, do you notice much noise from the engine in the cabin when it is charging the battery? I just bought an XSE and did not originally notice this as much on my test drive. However, after a week with the car, I noticed the engine revs louder during charging of the battery, almost like from the exhaust system.
@cultofmodernism8477
@cultofmodernism8477 4 ай бұрын
Doesn't come close to Lexus quality, but comes very close to Lexus price!
@carlandjennifersilva
@carlandjennifersilva 4 ай бұрын
The es350 is still much better
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
Agree. KIRK is losing his mind
@Justkevin377
@Justkevin377 4 ай бұрын
The shocks are different on the Lexus.
@suherntan8786
@suherntan8786 2 ай бұрын
The Camry being this good actually is great news for Lexus sedan aficionados. Imagine an ES with the great underpinnings of this current gen Camry, plus even better refinement and handling AND with 400hp and eAWD. Now THAT would be a worthy spiritual successor to the legendary Lexus GS.
@dj69
@dj69 4 ай бұрын
Hey @kirk This Camry or Accord Touring? Both seem really great! Think I like the front end on the Accord in terms of design and the Google integration. But the power and AWD of the Camry is making this a difficult choice. Help!
@seattle129
@seattle129 4 ай бұрын
I was leaning towards buying the luxury es, but i can’t justify that price seeing the new camry. so i think im going with a new 2025 lexus rx when it gets released
@baronvg
@baronvg 4 ай бұрын
Damn, I live in Los Angeles. I went through a roller coaster just now with the traffic jam assist from exhilarated knowing it exists to utter devastation to learn it requires a subscription! 😭
@ThatMattGuy
@ThatMattGuy 3 ай бұрын
I would say the biggest issue with Camry over Lexus is depreciation. I expect a fully loaded Camry to drop like a rock compared to the Lexus ES. At 40's in MSRP it would be hard to justify the Camry. Note, I have never owned a Lexus but have had a 98 Corolla bought new, a 14 camry bought new, and a 17 camry bought in 20 used. I like Toyota but the prices are getting nuts. Lexus is getting up there to, but lexus's generally are more comfortable, reliable, and hold value better. At these prices you are closer than ever to the ES.
@ducksy98
@ducksy98 4 ай бұрын
Time for a major redesign for the Highlander
@cottagegymfun
@cottagegymfun Ай бұрын
For a daily driver, this new Camry is it and more. My other car is an expensive toy lol.
@ScotStormes-k1w
@ScotStormes-k1w 3 ай бұрын
This looks like a great car, but as I'm getting older I need seats a little more comfortable & have more soft cushion than the Camry. I currently have an older Camry and paid to give my driver's seat more cushion, and what a difference! In a few years, I will be looking at the Crown, which does have more comfortable seats. It is also quieter than the Camry, sits higher like an SUV & has AWD. I'm sure it's not Lexus quality, but it does cost less for a very nice sedan.
@RyanFiedlerTRDFan1
@RyanFiedlerTRDFan1 4 ай бұрын
Kirk, I am shopping the NX and the Camry....If configured with congruent price points....which one?
@skimanfree1073
@skimanfree1073 4 ай бұрын
Try getting the 2025 LE or SE at MSRP!
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
You can where I live
@oman968
@oman968 4 ай бұрын
very informative 💙
@merdith6
@merdith6 3 ай бұрын
I paid 23500 dollars for my 2019 camry se. Non hybrid. It has been really good. It just needed sound deadening in doors and trunk and a pedal commander for the lag off the line. It rips. Too bad they are all hybrids now and too expensive. Having a 420 dollar car payment is golden.
@Wha2les
@Wha2les 2 ай бұрын
I know over time quality of build might not be as good as it used to be, but should one go out of their way to try and buy a toyota made in Japan vs here? I know that might be hard now as most if not all Camry and ES are built here now for US market right?
@NonSubscribed
@NonSubscribed 4 ай бұрын
I havent seen the 2025 Camry in person, but I can honestly tell you that the 2025 Camry is not better than my 2008 Lexus GS460....
@MrGeezil
@MrGeezil 4 ай бұрын
lol a 2008 car 😂😂😂😂😂. I will pass.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
@@MrGeezilme too and I bought this new Camry on July 2nd
@MrGeezil
@MrGeezil 4 ай бұрын
@@2004cyrus I agree I hate how folks be in the comments I will pick a 2008 car over a newer car lol. The safety features alone in the newer car might even save ya ass in an accident. May be just say you ain’t got the money to afford a newer car rn so you gonna drive your 2008 Lexus Gs460 lol.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
@@MrGeezil where is the lie? lol 😂
@lilanthny
@lilanthny 4 ай бұрын
Hey Kirk, I’m a Mazda guy but will be looking to get a new car soon. I currently drive a mazda6 and prefer a sedan over an SUV but would consider a CX-50 hybrid. My question is, how would you compare the engineering of the Camry XSE to a Mazda’s engineering? I like tight handling and don’t care about a stiffer ride. I also want to know if the interior is comparable to a Mazda. I would consider this car but am wondering your take?
@papi4baby
@papi4baby 2 күн бұрын
My 25 XLE Camry driver door actually sounds like something is loose in it, and it kinda rattles when i close it, i guess i'll have to bring that up to the dealer. I am concern they mess something else up, because the car is very quiet with no rattles on the road.
@jxmar_
@jxmar_ 4 ай бұрын
Both XSE and XLE have real leather seats. Only the SE has softex
@awetravelsOG
@awetravelsOG 3 ай бұрын
Used Lexus ES base is $30k and $40k for ultra luxury. Even the base Lexus beats this Camry!
@DuderOneKenobi
@DuderOneKenobi 4 ай бұрын
I am hoping that Lexus steps up quality... BMW is going cheap plasticky... I hope to see a new model of the Lexus NX with premium quality in 2026
@DuderOneKenobi
@DuderOneKenobi 4 ай бұрын
@@naveenthemachine I fear that you are correct... I am looking closely at buying a 2025 Lexus NX or RX or a 2025 BMW X3... they all just let me down in one way or another...
@franksalazar2628
@franksalazar2628 4 ай бұрын
Lexus all day… test drove both vehicles bought the Lexus es.. and I got 7 k off msrp while Toyota did not match the offer
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
Good deal
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
Toyota doesn’t have $7000.00 markup to play with like Lexus does.
@franksalazar2628
@franksalazar2628 4 ай бұрын
@@2004cyrus well my car msrp was 45 with a bunch of options and it came out to 37k.. I say that’s a pretty good deal..
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
@@franksalazar2628 that’s a deal I would take all day long! Congratulations! I didn’t know the new Camry could reach that level with all of the packages. But $37,000 is a killer deal
@matrix8043
@matrix8043 4 ай бұрын
​@2004cyrus u buy brand new lexus es for 37000$ ?
@chinito77
@chinito77 4 ай бұрын
Kinda shocked this Camry does not have a digital rear view mirror. I think overall its a good car and rivals the ES. Wish the Prius and a HUD, perhaps the 2025 model? Come on Toyota!
@ibz.a
@ibz.a 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think one needs it for a sedan that has good rear mirror visibility compared to higher trunk belt line on SUVs. Also I trying using it; kind of annoying to loook at screen in the mirror
@meesr
@meesr 4 ай бұрын
Last thing I want is a digital mirror. Unnecessary cost and complication.
@mikej238
@mikej238 4 ай бұрын
Waste of money, have it on my Rav 4 Ltd, haven't used it in 14 months since I got it
@bosconti1979
@bosconti1979 4 ай бұрын
I tell you what, I just bought a 2025 SLX and I can say that the SLX is great!!! I made the right choice!!!
@whitemailprivilege2830
@whitemailprivilege2830 4 ай бұрын
There is no 2025 model year vehicle with the name SLX.
@joebruhin2098
@joebruhin2098 4 ай бұрын
Thanks great review...would you rather have a 2024 CX5 signature or this camry? Gas milage isn't a dealbreaker.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
I have both! CX-5 is great just worse gas mileage 😊
@asko2677
@asko2677 4 ай бұрын
You’re trying way too hard to make it look/feel like a Lexus, but we all know where the $8k difference in price went! Also, I’m sure the next Gen ES will get all the updates.
@matrix8043
@matrix8043 4 ай бұрын
Does toyota camry 2025 xle in basic standard trim comes with regular sunroof or no sunroof at all
@papayaman123
@papayaman123 4 ай бұрын
Once you drive a Lexus you won't want to go to back to Toyota :D
@papayaman123
@papayaman123 4 ай бұрын
@@naveenthemachine the NX is based on RAV4, you should have test driven the v6 ES. Nonetheless the Lexus will be superior in terms of quality and finish to your Camry.
@kjk4795
@kjk4795 4 ай бұрын
2024 ES350 V6 has a clunky transmission.
@alexlarson2466
@alexlarson2466 4 ай бұрын
@@papayaman123 Not if you compare some modern Lexuses to an XV10 gen 3 camry
@Every14days826
@Every14days826 4 ай бұрын
The suspension on the Lexus ES is far better than any Camry. Also leather everywhere you touch, Really have no clue what buddy is getting at lol
@seethingsclearlyawaken3424
@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 4 ай бұрын
I owned an IS350 and also owned a TRD Camry, not at the same time of course. I actually preferred the Camry TRD over the IS350. The big "L" did nothing for me, except got me comments from friends and co-workers, suggesting I had become "Uppity". I didn't like the impression I was giving people with the "L" over the "T".
@baoanprounited
@baoanprounited 4 ай бұрын
Just as gud as Lexus? Idk bout the IS, but the ES? Nah. The ultra lux trim ride is something u cant elaborate thru words. Gotta experience it
@michaelw6277
@michaelw6277 4 ай бұрын
How do the interior door handles feel? Solid metal or plastic?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
No one uses metal door handles anymore
@michaelw6277
@michaelw6277 4 ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels lame! My last Volkswagen had them and it was really nice
@jxmar_
@jxmar_ 4 ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifelsI believe the 2018-2024 models had metal door handles
@c.m_astro
@c.m_astro Ай бұрын
I really liked this vehicle until the front right wheel bearing failed at only 4,000 miles. It’s very disappointing that I paid this much for a new 2025 vehicle and then to have this happen. I hope I don’t deal with this for the life of the vehicle. I have to wait 8 weeks before a replacement part will arrive. My 2006 Honda Accord bearings are still going strong.
@shawnbl2048
@shawnbl2048 4 ай бұрын
Just test drove XLE dealer looking for $1000 markup. The fabric microfiber on doors is what's giving me hesitation. I guess the engineers dont have kids. Im wondering how hard it would be to keep clean? It's definitely a comfortable car. Bit quieter than my 2020 Hybrid
@ironrain1x
@ironrain1x 4 ай бұрын
Don't even need to have kids to see that is a bad idea. I drive around dusty roads and the interior will get caked with light dust when getting out. It's easy to wipe down leather and plastic. It's a pain to dust fabric
@alextyshkevich8210
@alextyshkevich8210 4 ай бұрын
2020 Camry 4 years ago was quieter too
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
Mine came with a tube of stain guard in the glove box
@jgriffin411
@jgriffin411 4 ай бұрын
​@@ironrain1x the microfiber trim is just about a deal breaker for me. Doesn't make a bit of sense, super bad idea.
@ironrain1x
@ironrain1x 4 ай бұрын
@jgriffin411 it makes sense man, it's supposed to make you regret your decision of not getting a Lexus everytime you drive a camry....
@lcfanyc
@lcfanyc 4 ай бұрын
I have to say, after wattching this., this is my favorite color over Ocean Gem.
@User.Joshua
@User.Joshua 4 ай бұрын
The German luxury vehicles are dead to me. Their reign is over. The Korean and Japanese vehicles are way more desirable… then again, it could be that I’m nearly 40 and sensible now😅
@spliffbooth
@spliffbooth 4 ай бұрын
Hunter, please set the crack pipe down. Korean "luxury" vehicles, despite offering an appealing feature-to-price ratio on dealer lots, see their values drop more precipitously than most other cars on the market (including much-maligned EVs) due to less reliability and poor dealership service experiences. Meanwhile Japanese vehicles incur dealership-level price gouging, as well cost-cutting in material quality and design. And meanwhile yet, every single other automaker (including the Germans) have been attempting to emulate Japanese quality control methodologies, and have significantly improved both quality and reliability over the past several decades. In the 90's and early 2000's, I would have agreed with your statement about Japanese > German. But in 2024, the quality gap is much more narrow, the value-add all but erased, and the German cars still provide a more engaging, less appliance-like driving experience.
@Asiansxsymbol
@Asiansxsymbol 4 ай бұрын
It'll sell like hot cakes.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 4 ай бұрын
I bought one July 2nd
@dontcareimacat7821
@dontcareimacat7821 4 ай бұрын
How does ride quality compare to the Crown Sedan?
@TheLifetraveler1
@TheLifetraveler1 4 ай бұрын
I went to LA to see it before its debut. I was expecting a brand new body, not just a new front and back grille. Disappointed, yes, I was. Both it and the Accord really went into the field of just plain boring. I have a 2020 Accord Hybrid, thought it was just quirky, but against these new cars, it is definitely sexy now.
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