The Sonic Friend Who Deserves Better

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Күн бұрын

Today I wanted to talk about Silver the Hedgehog.
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@Raincloud5137
@Raincloud5137 2 ай бұрын
Imagine being a character made to potentially have your own game series but losing everything and being reduced to a secondary character, all because you were unlucky enough to be introduced in a bad production.
@SoMthgRandom
@SoMthgRandom 2 ай бұрын
mighty and ray:
@jhdezlol
@jhdezlol 2 ай бұрын
@@SoMthgRandomthey weren’t in a bad production, they were never relevant to begin with, and they had a come back in mania. The homie silver was only ever playable in 06
@Therealones745
@Therealones745 2 ай бұрын
He was always meant to be a secondary character
@nunyayourdad
@nunyayourdad Ай бұрын
@therealones745 you were never meant to be born
@Raincloud5137
@Raincloud5137 Ай бұрын
​​@@Therealones745 He had a Super form, was the only hedgehog introduced since Shadow, had a full campaign ALONGSIDE Sonic and Shadow, had a gameplay mechanic that was suposed to be the big selling point of 06, one of the most fire themes in sonic history, one of the strongest characters in sonic canon and one of the few that can go toe to toe with sonic, literally the only thing in which he is lacking is a good character arc, he was clealy made to be the "new Shadow", the new big impact character, but since the game was unfinished and failed, none of that was possible.
@JustJulyo
@JustJulyo 2 ай бұрын
Silver always felt like the adopted son, like he's part of the family on the paperwork but occasionally forget to include him in the family pictures
@Dr.Mlieko
@Dr.Mlieko Ай бұрын
he was a Sonic doppelganger while Metal Sonic and Shadow were already around
@lilylookittykyu3115
@lilylookittykyu3115 Ай бұрын
That is exactly what it's like, it's so sad 😭
@MintyCoolness
@MintyCoolness Ай бұрын
@@Dr.Mlieko Sonic can have three dopples. Yanno, as a treat~
@Dr.Mlieko
@Dr.Mlieko Ай бұрын
@@MintyCoolness There is also Surge (who's a reinvented Scourge, cause to hell with Penders)
@KelvincarlDemesa
@KelvincarlDemesa 22 күн бұрын
@JustJulyo Maybe Adopted By Tom Wachowski and Maddie Wachowski Played By James Marsden and Tika Sumpter In Sonic Movie 6 Before Everything
@mr.unsmiley8656
@mr.unsmiley8656 2 ай бұрын
I think the problem with Silver is the same problem with characters like Blaze and, to an extent, Shadow: they were made to tell a specific story and they don't really function outside of it. Since Silver's identity is largely intrinsic to the events of 06, they had to keep recreating them whenever they wanted to use him again, hence Ifrit, which is basically Iblis with wings.
@quickup7530
@quickup7530 2 ай бұрын
@@mr.unsmiley8656 Correct. This is also an obvious answer that most people figured.
@angsilaw
@angsilaw 2 ай бұрын
It would be really nice if they would just make a game set in the future for him. Give him a context to exist in. A threat that exists only in his time and can’t be stopped by going to Sonic’s time
@trueeagleman
@trueeagleman 2 ай бұрын
Not really. Blaxe and shadow can still be used and don't need elements from their introduction to be plot revelvant, Silver. However being from the future presents a problem when trying to make him a player in certian stories
@mr.unsmiley8656
@mr.unsmiley8656 2 ай бұрын
@trueeagleman Maybe Shadow, but definitely not Blaze. She pretty much has the same problem as Silver, if not worse.
@ConcavePgons
@ConcavePgons 2 ай бұрын
​@@trueeaglemanIt's a similar problem to Future Trunks in the Dragon Ball series, where if they need to find a specific situation to justify his role in the story.
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 2 ай бұрын
Silver is such a cool character it's a shame his first game was 06
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 2 ай бұрын
Well sorry buddy, if you’re a fan of him, then you’re gonna have to except it for the rest of your life.
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel 2 ай бұрын
@@iceman92211 i mean yeah i can accept it lol it's just a shame, i hope he can have a big role outside of the comics in the future (because he's super cool in the comics)
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 2 ай бұрын
@Cinnamonraisin_Bagel I mean what kind of more stories you want to tell with him, because his concept being from the future was very limited from the start, since it can only work once and never again, otherwise it would just feel forced and lazy fan service, and technically he did already have his big moment already whether you like it or not.
@sirshadow1096
@sirshadow1096 2 ай бұрын
@iceman92211 Can you like shut up? Honestly? People like you are annoying. Just trying to start shit for no damn reason.
@KrushinKay
@KrushinKay 2 ай бұрын
I honestly don't know wut u guys are talking about. Having silver be introduced in 06 was a GOOD thing. I would honestly be honoured if I was introduced in an anniversary game as unforgettable as sonic 06.For better or the worse, silver just can't be forgotten now, and I hope Sega sees that as we can't stay with the like.minded sheep part of the fanbase who think sonic 06 is the worst sonic game in existence, I'd rather have creative but dumb parts of the fanbase who think amy can defeat black doom
@phorchybug3286
@phorchybug3286 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, poor dude. I've always been more of a Silver than a Shadow fan. Shadow looked kinda fancy but Silver is A FREAKING PSYCHIC! Poor dude deserves move love.
@Urmumlel7025
@Urmumlel7025 Ай бұрын
"A FREAKING PSYCHIC" Yeah, so are several other characters.
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch Ай бұрын
Psychics are always cool, part of why Espeon is my favorite pokemon
@VirtuaMaster
@VirtuaMaster 2 ай бұрын
Silver was a huge player in the IDW comics, specifically in the major second arc.
@E-102GammaMKII
@E-102GammaMKII 2 ай бұрын
That's the only time in IDW where he does anything meaningful. Now, he's been bossed around by the sheep OC Lanolin.
@bunsmasterbunny
@bunsmasterbunny 2 ай бұрын
He's terribly characterized in IDW though.
@purebones
@purebones 2 ай бұрын
@@bunsmasterbunnyfr people make the excuse that because his future is fixed he's happier now but come on 💀 they literally make him appeal to people who call characters "cinnamon roll babies"
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 2 ай бұрын
@@purebones smoosh both comics together an pretty much perfect
@purebones
@purebones 2 ай бұрын
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 exactly if his personality was more balanced and not just black or white it would be great
@beheeyemite
@beheeyemite 2 ай бұрын
Created too late to appear in the character heavy games. Created too early to appear in games with quality control. Created just in time to make a cameo in Smash Bros Brawl.
@yellowstarproductions6743
@yellowstarproductions6743 18 күн бұрын
Cool
@yellowstarproductions6743
@yellowstarproductions6743 18 күн бұрын
Also I am in agreement with you.
@mcbob-vj8kg
@mcbob-vj8kg 2 ай бұрын
9:29 I almost spat my drink
@Noah_Bailey
@Noah_Bailey 2 ай бұрын
Eggman n-
@JonathanGaeta
@JonathanGaeta 2 ай бұрын
Woah woah woah, let’s not drop N word bombs Espio
@sindelemusokotwane260
@sindelemusokotwane260 2 ай бұрын
I don't know how the voice actors said his name with a straight face😭
@ComicBoy60s
@ComicBoy60s Ай бұрын
That also happens in the Olympics
@Averagebasementman
@Averagebasementman Ай бұрын
@sindelemusokotwane260chances are they didn’t.
@terryqokov6999
@terryqokov6999 Ай бұрын
Silver is like Kenny from South Park; to the general audience he's forgotten but if you go into the online fandom at all he's obsessed over
@YetanotherAccount-fw8mw
@YetanotherAccount-fw8mw Ай бұрын
that's a good way to put it
@Crocogator
@Crocogator 2 ай бұрын
Cause every night, I will save your life and every night, I will be with you Cause every night, I still lay awake and I dream of an absolution~
@Indiajonesball8760
@Indiajonesball8760 2 ай бұрын
And every night I will make it right And every night I will come to you But every night it just stays the same And I dream of an absolution~
@TheSwordsman100
@TheSwordsman100 2 ай бұрын
And you'll see (and you'll see) What you'll be (what you'll be) And you'll see (and you'll see) All you can be (all you can be) Oh (oh)
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 2 ай бұрын
song was fist wrote for gay love the creator confirms this when making a new MV for it
@aoto8897
@aoto8897 Ай бұрын
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 To me they represent Silver’s love for the world and everyone in it.
@JayDay04
@JayDay04 Ай бұрын
Man the way I'd blast this song in my ears when I was a child
@SaddieMoon
@SaddieMoon 2 ай бұрын
I do enjoy playing as Silver in 06. I really loved that one time when I used a box to fly myself to a higher platforms and learned that the devs thought of that, so they left a shortcut there with some rings and enemies.
@extremmefan7305
@extremmefan7305 2 ай бұрын
"I have no idea what Silver's future is like!" Me neither, buddy. Me neither. '^^
@theshadowspider97
@theshadowspider97 2 ай бұрын
I watched this cuz' Silver was one of the few characters I knew nothing about and I wanted to learn who he is. Now, u may have just introduced me to one of my new favorite Sonic characters! I love psychic powers and time traveling! Thank u, Kiro!
@yellowstarproductions6743
@yellowstarproductions6743 18 күн бұрын
Agreed except I knew who he was.
@davidwinnerwise1429
@davidwinnerwise1429 2 ай бұрын
I literally saw this after a video talking about how Super Sonic is a direct copy of the Super Saiyan form. And now I'm hearing Silver is basically Future Trunks too.
@desuretard8654
@desuretard8654 Ай бұрын
Seems that Sega has taken inspiration from various different places. It's rumored that Sonic's classic design was modelled after Felix The Cat.
@ChildPrototype2
@ChildPrototype2 2 ай бұрын
I would kill to actually see the silver vs infinite fight from sonic forces from their perspective
@Du-yw1pz
@Du-yw1pz Ай бұрын
They should've had you play as Silver from his pov vs. Infinite as you fight him before Sonic arrives
@bowserbreaker2515
@bowserbreaker2515 Ай бұрын
Silver is one of my favorite characters. I enjoyed his story in 06, and I loved his stories in the Archie comics. Even in the reboot. Silver is a great character, but he gets barely anything. He was in the Rivals games, but those are very obscure. And he had a good boss fight in Generations. I also like his scenes in Colors DS. That game had some nice character moments.
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 Ай бұрын
Wait you’re a Sally fan boy who enjoyed a game story ? That’s super rare to see from you.
@roseswonderland8757
@roseswonderland8757 Ай бұрын
Silver is my favorite character out of all of the sonic characters I get so sad when people don't like him
@bob_png
@bob_png 2 ай бұрын
“its no use!” lowkey would have been better for him in different words. archie silver had quite the reintroduction, really hope sega makes more use with silver instead of just making him a bossfight in generations for no reason.
@bowserbreaker2515
@bowserbreaker2515 Ай бұрын
Archie Silver is the best version. There is a whole video on him and it's great.
@BIGTHANKSHEESH
@BIGTHANKSHEESH Ай бұрын
@@bowserbreaker2515 u watch low art too?
@bowserbreaker2515
@bowserbreaker2515 Ай бұрын
@@BIGTHANKSHEESH What Archie Sonic fan doesn't? They are some of my favorite KZbin videos of all time.
@bob_png
@bob_png Ай бұрын
lowkey I really enjoyed the Archie comics they are so peak
@bowserbreaker2515
@bowserbreaker2515 Ай бұрын
@@bob_png They are the best Sonic media by far. They really touched me. And I'm glad that in the past few years, the fans of it are talking about it much more.
@princesspixel3151
@princesspixel3151 7 күн бұрын
I think Silver’s future now looks like one of those post apocalyptic tropes like Kirby and the Forgotten land where the cities were still in ruins and nature has taken over, but the world was still at peace as nature was healing
@Stardustalyy
@Stardustalyy Ай бұрын
Silver is such a good character! I'm glad the fandom started to see this! And not just because he's my favorite. 😅
@galixypawerpack
@galixypawerpack 7 күн бұрын
Silver is one of, if not my favorite character. now, admitively I have not played any sonic games, but I love him anyway.
@raineskempen3191
@raineskempen3191 2 ай бұрын
You talked about different descriptions of what silvers future is like. But If you wanna take a step farther, the IDW comics silvers future is basically after the metal virus took over. And when sonic and silver stop the metal virus, it saves his future
@yellowstarproductions6743
@yellowstarproductions6743 18 күн бұрын
Makes sense
@Mohammed1000real
@Mohammed1000real 2 ай бұрын
Maybe someday Silver will get his own year!
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 2 ай бұрын
And what for exactly ? There’s nothing to celebrate for Silver, all he is known for are : His debut in 06 His debut in Rivals His boss fight in Generations. And him being weak in Forces. That’s it, and every other appearance is just him being there for no reason other than fan service.
@ceter342
@ceter342 Ай бұрын
I completely agree, Archie has already shown that he is a character with a lot of potential and would have the opportunity to have real character development. Finally emphasizing his message "to have hope for the future"
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 Ай бұрын
@@ceter342 oh yeah, use some random non canon inappropriate American comics that have nothing to do with the games.
@ceter342
@ceter342 Ай бұрын
@@iceman92211 What the hell does it have to do with them not being canonical or according to you? As if that were a bad thing and For you Information "Blaze fanboy" Silver is the one who deserves a second chance, It was the one who marked the 15th anniversary of the franchise, It was an attempt to create a character as memorable as Shadow and Sonic. He is one of the most human characters we could see in the franchise and yes, Blaze is who always was a secondary character.
@noorazamzain2661
@noorazamzain2661 13 күн бұрын
​@@iceman92211All the more we could anticipate his glory days Since he's never had good days, the basis is quite a mess but when it does come, it'll mark the rise of new Silver fans for the long awaiting hedgehog
@anifsky1065
@anifsky1065 27 күн бұрын
I mean, he does deserve better, but *It's no use* in the end, he'll end up forgotten.... 😔
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 24 күн бұрын
He’s already forgotten, the last time anyone cared about him was in the early 2010s, and nowadays no cares about him except for people inside the fan base.
@stargazerjuniper
@stargazerjuniper Ай бұрын
I feel like the best thing to do with Silver as a character is to take him out of the future. Like, he's still from the future but some plot unfolds and he eventually decides to stay in Sonic's time. Picture this: Sometime in the future, sega does a "Year of Silver" akin to the current year of shadow, working on either the rumoured 06 or a Rivals remake (titled something like "Sonic 06 + Silver the Hedgehog" or "Sonic + Silver Rivals"). This remake would feature a bonus Silver campaign, the plot of which being Silver after Rivals/Metal Virus/whatever seeing his future get destroyed by some cataclysmic threat which conveniently was awoken because of something that happened back in Sonic's time. He collects travels back in time, stops that, but then his future is still destroyed because of another thing that happened in Sonic's time (perhaps the events of a Sonic game where silver was absent or present without specific explanation). Rinse and repeat enough to match Shadow Gens' playtime and eventually Silver comes to the realisation that there's something about Sonic's time that consistently threatens the future, ultimately resolving to stay primarily in said time period as a protector of the present to safeguard the future.
@Pronyboy
@Pronyboy 2 ай бұрын
Silver needs his own version of generations solely to tell us why the heck he would ever fight sonic
@gamemaster2819
@gamemaster2819 2 ай бұрын
It pains me that my favorite character has gotten shafted. I do think he's set to get something though. He's still getting some merch alongside Blaze (I was just in Japan and while he didn't have his own stuff, he was one of the major characters put in ensemble merch alongside Blaze. Even the Chaotix didn't appear on it) I think its just a matter of waiting his turn. Sega has been restablishing characters little by little. We've got some new stuff for Cream and Shadow, its only a matter of time
@0ctopusComp1etely
@0ctopusComp1etely Ай бұрын
Bro I would actually love a fully Silver focused game. His gameplay in 06 was fun, jank as it was. There's seriously potential for methodical platform gameplay that could be squeezed as a contrast to the other mainline characters.
@SurePerspective
@SurePerspective 2 ай бұрын
Fr and now he's just stuck being a plush in IDW
@pinkymii072
@pinkymii072 15 күн бұрын
not really, he can be a silly billy and be able to kill a man without hesitatio
@GoldLight73
@GoldLight73 2 ай бұрын
I made a video about Silver a while back as well! I think his biggest issue by far is that he really is a walking paradox, which makes it tough for writers to know what to do with him.
@meikaishi
@meikaishi 2 ай бұрын
I say Blaze had it worse because she accomplished more before being basically deleted, specially with that mess between her being from the future or from a different dimension
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 2 ай бұрын
It’s quite ironic that you’re writing this on a Silver video of all things, because you got the answer of why she is ruined right in front of you.
@gamemaster2819
@gamemaster2819 2 ай бұрын
In my opinion, both Blaze and Silver were to be the next few things. 06s plot was even supposed to have more direct connections to Rush. Then they never appeared, the game was rushed out, and Sega became hesitant to keep using characters other than Sonic. Not helping was Rush Adventure not doing well for sales, so Dimps would only make alternate versions of mainline games going forward
@seematahir5970
@seematahir5970 2 ай бұрын
It's never actually said that Blaze in 06 is from the future, and even if that was the intention it doesnt carry over into any of her other appearances. Rush Adventure coming out the year after 06 should clear any confusion. Blaze just has the same problem as Silver in that her story was told in Rush and didnt have many places to go after that. She *could* be expanded, but its not like she's hurting for a strong showing the way Silver is
@seematahir5970
@seematahir5970 2 ай бұрын
​@@iceman92211I disagree, I honestly find it weird how a lot of Blaze fans whine about Silver ruining her character when they only ever occasionally appear together and arent characterized any differently when apart (MOSTH, IDW, etc.) They'll also act like Blaze is Silver's sidekick now even though they're always shown on equal footing and Blaze usually acts senior to him. What really happened is that SEGA lost interest in doing interesting things with their characters after Unleashed so she faded to irrelevance like everyone else. But they still insist that Silver is to blame as if that same thing didnt happen to everyone else's faves.
@crimsonzone8984
@crimsonzone8984 2 ай бұрын
​@@seematahir5970*Silvaze fan being defensive*
@socheata643
@socheata643 2 ай бұрын
Silver is awesome!
@funnygamer361
@funnygamer361 Ай бұрын
Does this mean technically there could be two Silvers, one with a dark future and one with a bright future?
@RamyGd
@RamyGd 21 күн бұрын
There is only one Silver, he is decoupled from time so his future keeps changing but not him.
@welchrebooted4739
@welchrebooted4739 Ай бұрын
4:42 Actually, Takashi Iizuka revealed that Shadow's inspiration wasn't Vegeta but was in fact Image Comic's Spawn.
@yrooxrksvi7142
@yrooxrksvi7142 Ай бұрын
For his solo game, not the character.
@fuzz_butt
@fuzz_butt Ай бұрын
I think it's time we all collectively stop taking Iizuka's word as fact because he just makes shit up and lies for no reason 😭😭😭
@spookyblook
@spookyblook Ай бұрын
"no love" while he's arguably one of the most popular sonic characters
@titaniafae4114
@titaniafae4114 11 күн бұрын
love from the community, but nothing from SEGA
@classicsonicthewild6051
@classicsonicthewild6051 2 ай бұрын
Matt Smith As Sliver The Hedgehog Would Be Awesome
@mastermace7770
@mastermace7770 2 ай бұрын
Silver is my favorite character
@katherinecanney6827
@katherinecanney6827 Ай бұрын
Me too
@Imsuchasonicfanlol
@Imsuchasonicfanlol 21 күн бұрын
10:09 bro predicted the future
@oneandonlysound99
@oneandonlysound99 17 күн бұрын
Honestly I love Silver enough that I'd love to both him and Mephiles in a future film adaptation. It might be overkill if it was also with Amy and assuming Neo-Metal Sonic, possibly even a robotic eggman (speculation, his survival from 2 made sense but he's not a superpowered space hedgehog to survive in 3). I think it would also do wonders for his popularity as he just came in a interesting but messy game. I think they could really do him justice and thus be putting him the games to do more. Maybe even get his own game where maybe he travels to where Blaze is. I mean being real he'll never have Shadow's popularity but seriously nobody can beat the Sonic main 3 team and Shadow in popularity anyway. But there's always room for more to get the spotlight and the time is definitely now.
@notOPEX_
@notOPEX_ 2 ай бұрын
wait eggman what
@yellowstarproductions6743
@yellowstarproductions6743 18 күн бұрын
Eggman nega
@sonic_the_hedhed0623
@sonic_the_hedhed0623 6 күн бұрын
LOLLL
@KKTunez
@KKTunez 2 ай бұрын
I enjoy what the IDW comics are trying to with him though cuz he’s a little nerdy, and naive and that’s what makes him adorable. He can still fight great but his interactions with everyone especially blaze are really what I care for ☺️ even in 06 there’s some gold in there especially when he says “you’re my friend… right!?” Before blaze absorbs Iblis (makes me get watery eyes every time)
@Crumbyboi
@Crumbyboi 2 ай бұрын
Comics is where he shows up a lot
@E-102GammaMKII
@E-102GammaMKII 2 ай бұрын
And he's not done justice there, either.
@AmerKhajjou
@AmerKhajjou 2 ай бұрын
You know who deserves better,infinite
@Jess_JessRulezzz
@Jess_JessRulezzz 2 ай бұрын
YEAH 🔥
@StanleyNumber427
@StanleyNumber427 2 ай бұрын
His whole character concept is meant to be even edgier than Shadow. There's nothing salvageable about Infinite.
@crimsonzone8984
@crimsonzone8984 2 ай бұрын
​@@StanleyNumber427 I disagree. Shadow is a very complex character with so much layers that gets lost in translation. Comparing Infinite to him would be ridiculous. But focusing more on surface level aspects like his powers, and his actually pretty cool. The game that he appeared in though is just cheap as hell.
@StanleyNumber427
@StanleyNumber427 2 ай бұрын
@@crimsonzone8984 I've seen the Japanese translation before and just because it's a lot better than the localization, doesn't mean the awful edginess has disappeared. The one thing that is unironically a main aspect of Shadow's character is also his worst aspect.
@NIGELCollier-f9n
@NIGELCollier-f9n 2 ай бұрын
Is no one going to talk about how similar silver and infinite are for example they both debuted from bad games they both didn’t have the chance to shine and they have similar ora with their powers
@athorem
@athorem Ай бұрын
I'm counting on the movies to give Silver a redemption arc. I have a prediction for which numbered movie he's going to be in...
@fictionschmiction4478
@fictionschmiction4478 2 ай бұрын
My favorite character. I'm hoping he'll at least get to pull up in the new movies.
@templecatt
@templecatt Ай бұрын
i hope he can get his own moment to shine soon. he's my most inspirational sonic character. and it would be cool because I've been getting dreams of him lately for some reason lol
@natoriousthehopeful2786
@natoriousthehopeful2786 2 ай бұрын
Sonic Team needs to give us a Year of Silver STAT!
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 2 ай бұрын
Okay what do you want to celebrate for him ? All what he has are : His debut in 06. His debut in Rivals. His boss fight in Generations. And being weak in Forces. And all the other appearances are jus spinoff games where he is just there for no reason other than fan service.
@BIGTHANKSHEESH
@BIGTHANKSHEESH Ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@iceman92211 Sonic 06 doesn’t actually have a bad story and his character is great in the game Rivals Silver is a straight menace, although it doesn’t add much Forces is forces And IDW, which is canon
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 Ай бұрын
@@BIGTHANKSHEESH you sure about that it doesn’t have a bad story about a human princess that we supposed to care about instead of the already existing princess Blaze and the fact that Silver is so annoying and poorly written ? Well, you said it yourself it doesn’t add much. Well, Forces is still canon and apparently it’s the start of this entire IDW comic series, so the fact that this entire comic series starts with a story about Sonic and a smaller mute version of himself and an mute OC saving the entire planet is just laughable.
@nvnvnv13
@nvnvnv13 2 ай бұрын
My boi Silver need justice!! Pleaaaaaase, I hope he appeared in the Movie universe so he will get the screentime he sorely needed 🤧
@Hedgie3
@Hedgie3 Ай бұрын
It looks like Silver will be in the movies sometime soon (more likely movie 5) because Paramount hinted at him and a Sonic 06 inspired movie twice in the Knuckles show. 1. During a scene in episode 1 Maddie was wearing a white sports hat and an auqua green long-sleeved shirt. Colors that match Silver enough. 2. That " Flames of Disaster" titled episode. In these recent years Silver joined Sonic and Shadow to be one of my three favorite Sonic characters, so you're not the only person who really wants him to enter the SCU in one of the next movies.
@agentlucky2944
@agentlucky2944 Ай бұрын
I completely agree with you 😢! Honestly hoping Paramount will bring him in at some point, especially being Shadow got his year of celebration. It would definitely help give his character more of an identity in the franchise. The soonest it could probably happen would be for the end credits of Movie 4 though.
@agentlucky2944
@agentlucky2944 Ай бұрын
​​@@Hedgie3Thank you for pointing out the references in the Knuckles Show! Honestly having seen too many people mentioning that!
@tulip135
@tulip135 Ай бұрын
I've always been a Sonic fan but I've just recently been getting back into the franchise & exploring it in more depth than ever. One of the first things I heard about was how much fans hate Sonic 06 for its janky game mechanics, so I automatically thought it was just a bad game. Then on a random whim, I decided to watch a youtube video summarizing its story, and I was legitimately shocked at how complex and interesting it was - especially the time travel aspect with Silver. It still has its.. questionable parts (that weird romance with Elise should've never happened), and the overall execution was undeniably sloppy, but the potential was there. I loved and still love the idea of so many characters being playable, and I think that's the #1 thing that should be brought back in this modern Sonic renaissance era, especially if the games are becoming lore-centric again. A story has so much more depth when it's being depicted from multiple perspectives. Combine that with high quality cut-scenes, a killer soundtrack, and most importantly - polished gameplay mechanics to tie everything together, we'll finally have achieved PEAK. Anyway, if Sega's next project is truly what Sonic 06 failed to be, given the last few releases we've been getting, I'm optimistic.
@notsuperdash3
@notsuperdash3 2 ай бұрын
FINALLY, A VIDEO ABOUT SILVER!
@toxicplum07
@toxicplum07 Ай бұрын
2:08 I kinda dig the orange ngl
@Sly88Frye
@Sly88Frye Ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention his song. His theme song I've heard people say is one of the best things about him. Anyways I have not played Sonic 06 but maybe I should play that I don't know if you talked about or somebody else did but there was a video I saw that talked about some kind of Sonic 06 rom hack where it's remade to be a very good game and that might be fun to play
@foxinabox0065
@foxinabox0065 Ай бұрын
So there was no Silver post credits scene at the end of the Sonic 3 movie, I'll say that much. But what I think they'll do next is aim for Sonic Heroes, a Shadow the Hedgehog solo movie featuring him against Black Doom (Sean Schemmel on the big screen again maybe? Schemmel admittedly is a clown but goddamn is his Black Doom voice unmatched), and then most definitely something with Silver in it.
@kolkagaming1234
@kolkagaming1234 Ай бұрын
Silver Tbf he doesn’t seem to have much Huge of an Impact on the rest of the Mainline Sonic The Hedgehog Lore outside of 06.
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 Ай бұрын
Probably because his whole future concept only works once and not multiple times.
@boombirdking2118
@boombirdking2118 Ай бұрын
I think a good way to have Silver around is to say because of 06, he’s now someone stuck as someone out of time AND space. The future he comes from no longer exists, so he’s like a dimensional nomad with no ties to any world that now lives in Sonic’s or Blaze’s dimensions
@winterice2022
@winterice2022 Ай бұрын
silver really deserves more love respect and recognition he deserves
@eway44
@eway44 Ай бұрын
I actually have fond memories of 06. I can look back fondly on it. Also Silver has a great personality. He can be extremely adorable and precious but do NOT get on his bad side or you will die
@dynamicyouthtube
@dynamicyouthtube Ай бұрын
06 is my favorite bad sonic game
@AuroraRaiju
@AuroraRaiju 15 күн бұрын
I feel like you could absolutely grow up in a beautiful future of peaceful days and blue skies filled with ruins 😅
@Going4Broke2528
@Going4Broke2528 11 күн бұрын
I guess you could say you're looking for the... Silver lining.
@Sonex1512
@Sonex1512 Ай бұрын
4:20 that lead to sonic 4
@joshs_junk
@joshs_junk 2 ай бұрын
if silver is not in sonic 4 then he will for sure be in sonic 5 who knows maybe the game to promote the movie might be a sonic 06 remake i need justice to be brought to my goat 😤✊
@BabuDAGOAT
@BabuDAGOAT Ай бұрын
YOU WERE RIGHT, AMY IN THE THIRD MOVIE silver in the fourth too tho
@zingodoom
@zingodoom Ай бұрын
You know, this video made me realize, since you brought up Silver's scene with Infinite; I know it hasn't been nearly as long since Forces was released, but I feel like Infinite himself is being left in the dust by Sega. You could go with the whole "but he died at the end of his debut game" thing, which has been done before, but even characters like Gamma or Emerl have had some fanservice references or appearances elsewhere, and beyond that, Sega was really, really fast to bring back another certain character who died at the end of his debut game, so that's hardly an excuse Bit of a shame to waste the potential. It might just be Liam O'Brien doing his Kain Highwind voice for the tenth time, but I don't get tired of hearing his performance, and there are definitely things they could do with the character if they wanted. But I guess they decided he was just too weak to reuse
@YetanotherAccount-fw8mw
@YetanotherAccount-fw8mw Ай бұрын
atleast he is in the sonic forces speed battle mobile game 💀
@blockwearingman
@blockwearingman Ай бұрын
4:40 if anyone didn't know yet it even got confurmed recently but sonics super design and other stuff is heavily inspired by dragon ball
@Yourlocalsilly_person-p2j
@Yourlocalsilly_person-p2j Ай бұрын
Bugs in 06 are actually kinda hilarious :P
@robloxuniverses9912
@robloxuniverses9912 2 ай бұрын
If Silver dosen’t use psychokenesis to make sonic break dance i will be so mad
@SakuraNozomi
@SakuraNozomi Ай бұрын
Bro deserves to make a comeback, We need Trio S/Triple SSS back ASAP
@ArtTheGaleWind
@ArtTheGaleWind Ай бұрын
I think the real issue for sonic team to bring him back is hos gameplay, pretty much every othrr character in the series just go fast and can somewhat do the same things sonic does with some extra new abilities, Silver's issue is that he is not fast running and his entire gameplay revolves around manipulating physics and controlling enemies, that just can't be translated as easily to fit into Sonic's style of gameplay, compared to a character like shadow that's quite literally just Sonic's gameplay style with a few extra bonuses liek time stop and shooting beams, so it's just something that they have to really sit down and rethink entirely how Silver would even play
@vanovasmith9586
@vanovasmith9586 17 күн бұрын
To be honest, Silver and Blaze were my favorites growing up. Though I didn't find out about 06 until 2015
@bryanhunter1598
@bryanhunter1598 2 ай бұрын
I agree he should get a game
@Klarion32
@Klarion32 2 ай бұрын
10:06 Personally, I would rather see Silver in the post credits of Sonic Movie 4 For me, Silver and the 06 adaptation in general are more suitable for Sonic Movie 5, while for Sonic 4 I would rather see the CD and Heroes adaptations
@Zenithal1843
@Zenithal1843 Ай бұрын
2:24 Boots giving major Eggman Nega vibes
@WtkoOko-o3x
@WtkoOko-o3x 22 күн бұрын
6:02 (pause it) I'm Dead☠
@LFASTnAmethyst
@LFASTnAmethyst 25 күн бұрын
the past and future signs were mechanics, so sonic can time travel
@brucegameplays69
@brucegameplays69 Ай бұрын
its no use!!! -silver, 2006
@Tawaki01
@Tawaki01 Сағат бұрын
Justice for Silver
@WeSeeJp
@WeSeeJp Ай бұрын
5:41 who gave silver the pass
@Jeykit0
@Jeykit0 23 күн бұрын
Shadow
@spongebobfan78
@spongebobfan78 2 ай бұрын
5:55 I'm still wondering how did the Japanese side handled this since the Rivals duology was never released there. Did they just never bothered explaining it or did they include some explanation on the JP script of the games?
@JairoM.
@JairoM. Ай бұрын
Wish Silver was in Sonic Boom and Sonic Prime and Sonic Frontiers
@SaddieMoon
@SaddieMoon 2 ай бұрын
IDW is confirmed canon to the games. So they should probably been mentioned in this video as it’s the most Main Series Silver content we’ve seen in years.
@Orusu72307
@Orusu72307 Ай бұрын
Iit’s no use! Take this!
@SANEG1YUU_ADD1CT
@SANEG1YUU_ADD1CT 7 күн бұрын
"its no use!"❌ "im no use!"✅
@SaadNabil
@SaadNabil 28 күн бұрын
Hopeful Year of Silver!
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 24 күн бұрын
For what reason ?
@ProjectMirai64
@ProjectMirai64 2 ай бұрын
Great video !
@TheSwordsman100
@TheSwordsman100 2 ай бұрын
Ah my second favorite character after Sonic. Let me clear up the status of the future of Sonic's world for you. First we have the inciting event which was Dr. Nega ruining the future with his time travel plots, (as you said 06 erases itself from the timeline) stopping Dr. Nega temporarily creates a good future in time for Sonic Colors DS which indeed is canon, however interference from the Phantom Ruby and it's clones would create the chain of events that led to the creation of the Metal Virus (yes the IDW comics are canon as well) which would once again destroy the future which makes Silver come back during the Forces era, stopping the Metal Virus once again makes a good future and Silver decides to take a break in the past. TLDR: The future is currently good. However its a constant fight to keep it that way thanks to other time traveling shenanigans.
@johnsonsharon81
@johnsonsharon81 Ай бұрын
I will not die happy until they give silver a independent game
@SegaMario
@SegaMario Ай бұрын
Bro has literally never been playable in a mainline game since, since his moveset is more complex to program compared to Sonic and Shadow, who're mostly similar. Truly a tragedy that he debuted in an utterly fumbled bag of a game. Living in the timeline where SEGA didn't rush Sonic Team to get the game out by 2006's holiday season would be most interesting to see. Sonic '07 could've been legendary - it'll most likely still have the infamous kiss scene, but the gameplay should be better received at least, and Silver will become a staple in more than just spinoff games, with SEGA not being afraid to make Adventure-style games in this timeline.
@danieljuries9473
@danieljuries9473 Ай бұрын
It may be complex to program but if done right, it could be amazing. Imagine how much you can do with a character with psychokinesis, all the creative ways you could use the environment to attack or defend. If they make it an open world game,they could even allow him to fly. Since it's always only hovering for him,when he's shown to be able to straight up fly.
@Isaiahmob06
@Isaiahmob06 2 ай бұрын
After the Rivals game's my boy silver was forgotten 😔
@rkhh4stars
@rkhh4stars 23 күн бұрын
Bro sonic, shadow and sliver are MY FAV
@ObsidianXprimex
@ObsidianXprimex Ай бұрын
I enjoy sliver I hope he comes out in a sonic movie sometime soon
@KelvincarlDemesa
@KelvincarlDemesa 22 күн бұрын
R.I.P For Gamma
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 Ай бұрын
My boi, Silver the Hedgehog deserves a lot of love along with Blaze! These two are a great duo and even though he's introduced in the worst Sonic Game, Silver deserves a lot of love and potential. It's No Use!🥺😊
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 Ай бұрын
They are not great duo they are extremely forced and make no sense.
@Axquirix
@Axquirix 11 күн бұрын
I kinda hope that one of the movies will have Silver and Blaze show up at once. Taking on everyone on Sonic's side at once solo is a lot to ask of anyone, but the two of them together would be a tall order in the other direction. Would make for some excellent tension. I'd like Amy to be introduced first/alongside, though.
@dynamicyouthtube
@dynamicyouthtube 11 күн бұрын
probably sonic 5
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 10 күн бұрын
Why do you even want them together ?
@dynamicyouthtube
@dynamicyouthtube 10 күн бұрын
@ aren’t silver and blaze best friends?
@iceman92211
@iceman92211 8 күн бұрын
@@dynamicyouthtube they’re very forced.
@BoopSnootAndTroubleshoot
@BoopSnootAndTroubleshoot 2 ай бұрын
JUSTICE FOR SILVER! If 06 wasn't rushed, i think tit would've been one of the most iconic "must play" classics. The story is fire, the characters are on peak, and the music... oh the music... ICONIC! The only two issues are the controllers and functionality. Everything else is quite alright; even the animation has aged really well all things considered. They need to remale 06, redeem 06!
@Yeetboy2017
@Yeetboy2017 Ай бұрын
Well silver did appear in a psp game Sonic Rivals and no one remember who he was, but the game came out after 06
@TragicKF
@TragicKF Ай бұрын
Lost World wishes it was decent
@Sonicman4155
@Sonicman4155 Ай бұрын
Agreed, this game should never eat lunch in this town ever 😤
@Leavenstructure
@Leavenstructure 21 күн бұрын
I have a theory, Silver probably won't appear in a 4th movie since there's a high chance Rouge would but, but it would be amazing if he appears in the 5th. However, I feel like they would make him appear in the 6th- referencing his first appearance in Sonic 06 It's 50-50 but I heard that Paramount is planning something big with Silver, so who knows Silver is one of my favorites
@ozisammy1
@ozisammy1 Ай бұрын
I've been watching you since you first came to KZbin biggest fan like I was watching you when you had like a hundred subscribers
@SupDuder
@SupDuder Ай бұрын
I'm here because I though on the thumbnail says "No live" and also there had a Silver on the background (Me read that in 0000.1s my heart began panic)
@nightdrawer4036
@nightdrawer4036 Ай бұрын
In idw sonic they do show silver’s future after the metal virus saga and it is better with futuristic cities so It’s safe to assume his future is saved
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